It's nice to see that at least someone takes the subject seriously and presents the case, rather than "Everybody knows" ... or "what I'm gonna' do now is" ..... "bla, bla, bla."
You make really valuable films. They put the common sense to test, and nothing convinces me more than a proper test. That's what we call science and research.
I cut small pieces of willow which is a natural rooting hormone. I put the pcs. in a jar of water and let them soak a few days then dip cuttings in it. Works every time.
Thanks Jason, I have seen the videos say those other things work but I use hormone myself. I need to work on the other things you mentioned since my success rate is not very good yet. Just started trying this year but with this help I'm sure I'll get better at it.
no cinnamon but i do have honey and an old spud........i think ill just drive town and get some rooting hormone instead.....thanks for the advice and well put. it sounds more believable than the alternative ideas people are pushing
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm got the same haircut like yours courtesy of my wife and daughter we rarely go outside. Nice to see you again, hope to visit your farm someday. From the Philippines!
I rooted without any hormone using a coffee filter filled with potting soil inside of a toco bell cup since it was the only plastic container with a lid. I set it up against the house with filtered sunlight. I didnt think it would work but it did.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you. I have tried rooting cuttings in the past with rooting hormone and failed. I didnt think it would work. I think I had success because I was gone for 5 days and didn't mess with it or check on it. I think perhaps I did that too much in the past and that's why I failed.
Super video Jason. You have gone so in depth and explain the rooting process so well. Refreshing to find some trustworthy information as opposed to clickbait-y content. Keep it up.
Evidence based analysis on Anecdotal information overflow on Internet. Subscribed. Excellent information and no melodrama. On the other note, it is very difficult to keep friends with such anti anecdotal, evidence based approach. :-)
Thanks Jason. The Blessed Relief of rational, scientific explanation! Why is it so hard nowdays, for people to accept facts? They know better? No, Ignorance is clearly more blissful... Love your work and look forward to each vlog. 🌹
Science does not equal truth. if you know how scientific studies are performed you should know that it is the scientist performing them that decides where to take the study. the industry has created 90% of the studies to support their products. Who has any incentive to do a study to prove honey or any other method has any effect? I grew up in Europe and after many years of using scientifically proven methods in life with no results ….. I started using the “Anecdotal EVIDENCE” shown to me by my ancestors and everything they did works far better than scientific sponsored evidence. ….. unless I do the study ….. it is ALL anecdotal evidence
Re: banana and potato, isn't potassium supposed to promote root growth in plants (as a nutrient)? I have never used them nor would I promote them, but that is likely the thought process behind them.
I hope I understand your question: if you didn't apply rooting hormone at the time of cutting, you can still apply it later anytime before you see callus
i never use rooting hormone and seem to still have a pretty good results. do you think rooting hormone would help my cuttings root faster, or just increase the percentage of cuttings that root? thanks.
idk why but I noticed that a few drops!! of liquid fertiliser make my cuttings, that are in water, grow roots faster and stronger. its works for me and my plants are thriving so far.
Hi Jason, its Jason 😁 I am addressing the 'dirty' secrets surrounding all of these so-called rooting hormone substitutes on my weekly live stream 'garden variety' show tomorrow, 7PM CST .. it is an 'open' format, and expert guests are always welcome. I would love to pick your brain on what would be a more effective way of getting hormone out of Salix than an aqueous infusion .. if you're up to it.
i'm blaming you for having just purchased some roses online :) more seriously got some empty spots and struggling to find enough nice flowers to fill in. wife tried rose cuttings in potato. the cuttings died but the potato rooted and grew.
Thanks Chris. Good choice - happy to hear you have new roses on the way. My potato experience was similar! It's funny that the videos promoting it seldom ever show (successful) results
My rose cuttings grows leaves then wilt and die. What could be the problem? It grows leaves before roots. I’m only using dissolved aspirin as rooting hormone. Thanks.
I might suggest you switch over to an IBA based hormone and see if you can manage some bottom heat to promote root development - a heating mat can be useful for this (so long as your growing environment isn't too warm overall)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm for rosemary curry lavender softwood cuttings would you not go above hormodin #1 , going to have to buy some and I've not got the budget to buy the different strengths , as in the UK other costs are incurred on shipping & import , can't source equivalent iba powders at all in the UK , Bayer strike was my go to can't source any now & the clonex gel is messy and not cost effective
Did you actually try any of the other methods? It would seem pretty self defeating to make a vs video but then not actually do any experimentation to see what results you could achieve.
Yes.The only one I've done a video on is honey: ua-cam.com/video/R4ajtf7lF3Q/v-deo.html Willow water was so weak (for the reasons stated in the video) that I couldn't see a difference at all between treated and non-treated cuttings. I've since seen some additional instructions on how to prepare the willow water (in one of the more recent comments here) that look promising. Cinnamon seemed to have no effect for my cuttings (or seedlings, because I tried it to prevent rot on new seedlings too). I didn't try aloe, banana, onion - maybe when I have more time on my hands.
Oh that's good to hear, I apologize. I think willows main useful chemical would be the aspirin (salyclic acid) not sure what else the young branches would offer.
Thanks for the information... I was trying in the past different methods that you mentioned and was for me a waist of time and root hormones gave me better results
Hi Jason, Have you ever had massive callous on your cuttings and then have them stall out? I have some like that and they don’t seem to be rooting. At 6 weeks now I think.
Hi Michael - yes, I've run into this a few times. Sometimes they still make it, but more often I've given up on them. I couldn't tell if they were a bacterial root gall or just a hormonal problem with differentiation of tissues (I've read that overapplication of rooting hormone can do this). Because it's pretty infrequent, I haven't bothered to send it to the lab.
Great video. Quick question: best medium for starting lavender seedlings? Would a standard peat/perlite mix (like sunshine mix in BC) work ok? Or should sand be added for drainage?
Willow water can be almost as viable as commercial rooting powder if prepared correctly. Although all Salix species contain these compounds, the amounts vary between species, it can be tested by how quick and easy it roots, the faster the more of those are in it, the second part is it needs to be new growth at the hight of its growth(extract can be frozen), the third is that it needs to be extracted at 80 C° (not higher!) for at least 30 min., the soluability is only 250 mg/L at 20 °C but is increased at 80 C° and can be aided by using a 0.03% (w/v) solution of potassium hydroxide which forms the more soluable IBA potassium salt. It is also possible to use ethanol, methanol or acetone for the extraction(ofc. only outside or in a fumehood, never in the kitchen or greenhouse) as all of them are decent solvents for IBA, you should probably but the peeled off bark w/ cambium into a blender though to use less solvent, after the extraction it should be evaporated to a high concentration and then diluted with water to the desired concentration as more then a few ml/L of the solvents can harm the plants/cuttings.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm My pleasure, btw. when handling pure or highly concentrated potassium hydroxide, safety precautions must me taken, including gloves and eye protection, it is safest to buy a highly diluted form of potassium hydroxide and calculate how much more water must be added to achieve the desired concentration. Also if you use the commercial powder or suspension, I found in the literature that the optimal concentration for inducing AR formation is often much lower than common powders, it seems to depend on how woody the material is and also on the species/genus/family. Usually in the range of micrograms up to 1 mg/L seem to work best, at higher concentration the effects can be reversed, rooting powder has sometimes amounts in the g/L so it is far off the scale, I expect it mainly works by the little bit that got into the cutting when the rooting powder is washed off by watering the cuttings. I found a study about Rosa rugosa, that might be the most relevant to you, they found concentrations of 10^-7 Mol work best, this means they used around 0.175mg/L (175μg/L). You can order IBA K (that's the more soluble potassium salt) use a precision scale (they only cost a few bucks) add the amount to water and then dilute with more water until you get to the mid or low μg/L range, then let your cuttings sit in this solution for at least 30 seconds, or at these low concentrations you can also water your plants with the IBA water during the first days. If you want to determine the best amount for your roses, you could also try a few different concentrations if you mix them yourself and also try soaking times. Here is the study: www.mdpi.com › pdfPDF Optimization of Indole-3-Acetic Acid Concentration in a Nutrient ... - MDPI
@@MJafro glonex gel does work, especially on hardwood and semi-hardwood cuttings, however as stated in the last comment, for most plants the concentrations are way too high and with some it can even hinder root formation. Look into peoples experience with the plant you want to propagate first before using it.
Hi Jason just seen your new beautiful very interesting video willow water and other ideas did not work for me oh and someone had the idea a few years ago to give plants soda or the Epsom salts which unfortunately killed my carnation and pansy cuttings and seedlings and my other rise trees so all I have now is the one rose tree from last year growing much better thanks to you and sharing your knowledge and very interesting videos thank you so much stay safe keep well happy and healthy ❤️
Thank you! I really appreciated the video in which you investigated the safety of rooting hormone and this one is? of course? useful and well considered as well. Warm regards Jennie
What if i took willow twigs and let them dry, then powdered them, and used than powder like rooting hormone powder? would that solve some of the water solubility issues?
Thanks Luke. I haven't propagated from cherry, but I've read that it's semi-hardwood, fully hardwood cuttings or grafting. For the cuttings, you're looking for mature stems from *this* year's growth taken in summer or fall.
It's not present in my climate, so I have no first-hand experience to share. Internet sources say seed propagation or grafting - but don't mention own-root cuttings. I'd be keen to try air layering, just to see.
Not sure - it's the kind of thing that requires more science than I want to put in, when I can get the rooting hormone fairly easily at a known concentration.
I did the same research as you did. It was my conclusion that willow should be extracted in alcohol.....like dip-n-grow. It would need to be tried in an experiment with a control. Also, the amount of hormone is seasonal and is located in green growing shoots at greater and lesser amounts. It’s still a maybe in my mind. I agree, water based willow tea is hocum.
I looked in your Amazon recommendations but didn’t see rooting hormone. Any specific ones you prefer? I’m guessing my purposes will be for easy rooting plants.
Hi Jason, from seeing lots of your videos I know you’re a proponent of own-root roses and if I had the choice I would definitely choose them over grafted roses. But what if you want a specific rose that’s only offered with a graft... I have seen claims that if planted with the graft below the soil line, those branches will develop roots, so it ‘becomes’ an own-root rose over time. Have you ever seen this happen and would that increase the longevity of the plant similar to an own-root rose? Thanks for your great videos and information!
There are times when I would choose a grafted rose - but, yes, my first choice for most situations would be own-root. If you have a grafted rose, (and it's not patented) I'd always encourage you to try some cuttings. Having both the grafted mother and the resulting own-root rose is good insurance and good fun. Planting deep could do the job - and I've heard the same things you have. The problem is that I have seen a number of examples of deeply planted roses where there doesn't seem to be much root development on the buried scion portion (after years in the ground). Because I plant my graft at or near ground level, I can't offer too much except what I've found digging in other peoples gardens - so take it for what it's worth.
Jason, thanks so much for all your very informative videos. I've learned so much! Question: Some folks advocate roughing up or gently scraping the outside of a cutting to create minor wounds before apply a rooting hormone. Do you think there is any benefit to this practice?
Yes - additional surface area creates more tissue for callus/roots to initiate. The trade-off is that it also creates more openings for rot organisms. Some propagators swear by it, and for some varieties, it may be the very best thing. I'd experiment with it more if I had time, but as is I just try to take a clean cut, dip and stick (with reasonable success)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I heard Holy basil (Ocimum tenuiflorum) has something in it that acts as a rooting hormone that you can grind up then strain the it through a filter(like a coffee filter or something similar) and add a little water to the filter to get more liquids from the plant and use it as a rooting hormone
I just checked the Hormodin label and found fruiting shrubs on it. I can't say what regulatory reason the warning is for, the since IBA is naturally present in food crops (and is being used at such an incredibly low rate) I'd have no hesitation about it.
I’ve got one. I’ve been reading up on some carbohydrate supplementations for plants and found that honey has a good deal of glucose in it. What if you used a rooting solution to start and watered with honey mixed in. I’ve tried honey dipping in the past and never got much for results, but this is just a new thing I’ve thought up.
Interesting. I wouldn't rule it out, but unless we're reading different sources it's always been my impression that plants have a difficult time with uptake on complex organic molecules like sugar.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Strange, I had made a reply but it disappeared; but basically, complex sugars like we consume are not taken up by plants, however plants use chlorophyll to mainly synthesize glucose, and later store it as sucrose. I got this idea from someone trying to save their moon cactus scion on Reddit. As moon cactuses grafted to dragonfruit root stocks, they have been cultivated to lack chlorophyll, giving them their bright colors, they cannot survive on their own, but can root before dying. While doing some reading on glucose to try it on my own, I came across several of your videos that I liked. I wasn’t surprised the honey dip didn’t work, but I couldn’t help wondering how they might take to honey supplemented after being given a normal rooting treatment, and thought it would make interesting content for you. Also, I see you’re near Vancouver and I’d love to stop by next time I’m driving to the coast.
As someone who wants to be more self-sufficient, I'd be interested in hearing how rooting hormone powders are made, or, how one could make something akin to a store bought one. I have time and love to try things out, so I may start rooting around (ha) for something like that soon!
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I went digging a bit and kind of want to try something like alcohol or ethanol infused with willow? It seems IBA is a bit more soluble in alcohols. However, I don't have a way to actually read how much IBA ends up in the water, and I would only be able to dip the plants in for 5 seconds at a time to avoid killing them. I don't know, just an idea and maybe something to try next time I get some willow on hand!
Just about all of the commercially available hormones are based on IBA, and my favorite form is powder. Something like Hormodin (or StimRoot if here in Canada). The products are available with different concentrations of IBA, and for the semi-hardwood cuttings I normally take (on roses) it's 0.3 or 0.4%
Hi Jason, thanks for another great video! Perfectly clear and helpful! I'm wondering if you have any experience with rooting stem cuttings of "Platycodon - Blue Balloon Flower". The specific variety is "Pop Star", though that likely doesn't matter. I have 2 plants that are still in their pots from a nearby garden center waiting to go into our new landscaping as soon as it is complete, and because they have been blooming prolifically since I purchased them about a month ago, I'd like to "clone them", especially after watching your video on growing lavender from cuttings vs. from seeds. I realize it's late in the season, but would still like to give it a go. I haven't found a single article or video on growing this plant from cuttings, and just wondered if you knew anything about whether or not it can be done successfully. I plan to do it as I would any other softwood cutting... moisture, light, light compost and soil mix, hormone powder, but wondered what you might know about this plant. Thanks for your time, Jason!
But in my thoughts, if you prepare cuttings properly you won't need a rooting hormone since they have that hormone stored in their leaf nodes. So you can scrape the node before planting so more success rooting during the 2-4 week period.
Hi Valerie - it's that delay in accumulating the natural rooting hormones into the bottom nodes that produces such a difference in speed (and overall rate) of rooting. Decades of studies (and commercial practice) bear this out. I won't argue a second against someone's personal choice to avoid synthetic hormone application - that's your prerogative. And it's true that you can have a good success rate without added hormone on easy-to-moderate cuttings. But the rate and speed improves with hormone application - and on difficult-to-root plants, there's just no good substitute.
I've heard people make it from crushing willow stems into water and/or boiling it - the idea being that you can get some of the rooting hormone from it. Some people swear by it, but I haven't seen anything consistent on how to make it to a set concentration like I'd be able to get rooting powder.
There are loads of species of willow. Some are trees, some are shrubs, but yes, the people who recommend willow water are saying you should crush the young stems of a willow variety and prepare a rooting solution in water.
I did research for another video on the safety of rooting hormone: ua-cam.com/video/rFFYKanfudw/v-deo.html It's pretty much like handling talcum powder - don't breathe it or ingest it, but otherwise low risk.
Maybe so. I've seen some small studies with inconclusive results - but the same can be said for a lot of household spices and remedies: loads of anecdotal evidence, but little science. I guess that's why the herbal remedy market is so lucrative!
Thanks - but I couldn't track down any studies on worm castings used in cutting propagation. I saw one study where it seemed to help with the early development of radish seedlings, ut that could be quite a different matter.
Just a thought here....love your channel...but...The hormone is male, and from what I've been advised it's important that women don't inhale the powder. Perhaps I was mistaught during my horticulture studies. ...? But I'd use honey and have peace of mind.
Hi Julane. No one should inhale the powder because it could irritate your lungs - this is the same as baby powder (talc). I'd be very skeptical of any teaching that rooting hormone is "male" - there's just no basis to apply that term to a plant hormone in relation to animal biology.
I've had good results with a method you didn't mention... using nothing. I'm not a commercial grower but do desire successful propagation. To increase my odds of success I make sure it's the right time/season to clone. Another factor to consider is the health of the parent plant. I've learned not to attempt saving a perpetually dormant plant. It's too easy to succeed at propagating those! I'll spare you more silly common sense tips but will say gardening is a constant learning process. Unless you want to grow dirt ~
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It's nice to see that at least someone takes the subject seriously and presents the case, rather than "Everybody knows" ... or "what I'm gonna' do now is" ..... "bla, bla, bla."
You make really valuable films. They put the common sense to test, and nothing convinces me more than a proper test. That's what we call science and research.
I cut small pieces of willow which is a natural rooting hormone. I put the pcs. in a jar of water and let them soak a few days then dip cuttings in it. Works every time.
Wow that is so good to know!!
As he said in the video, it depends on the plants you you use it with, and how easily it roots.
Thanks Jason, I have seen the videos say those other things work but I use hormone myself. I need to work on the other things you mentioned since my success rate is not very good yet. Just started trying this year but with this help I'm sure I'll get better at it.
no cinnamon but i do have honey and an old spud........i think ill just drive town and get some rooting hormone instead.....thanks for the advice and well put. it sounds more believable than the alternative ideas people are pushing
Hi Jason, nice haircut! Thank you for sharing this video!
You're being too generous about my self-hairstyling skills!
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm got the same haircut like yours courtesy of my wife and daughter we rarely go outside. Nice to see you again, hope to visit your farm someday. From the Philippines!
Love your channel, Jason! You're really knowledgeable and good at explaining. Thanks!
Great video! Very informative and no BS. Just great knowledge. But then again I could not expect any less from Jason.
I rooted without any hormone using a coffee filter filled with potting soil inside of a toco bell cup since it was the only plastic container with a lid. I set it up against the house with filtered sunlight. I didnt think it would work but it did.
Awesome! Well done.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you. I have tried rooting cuttings in the past with rooting hormone and failed. I didnt think it would work. I think I had success because I was gone for 5 days and didn't mess with it or check on it. I think perhaps I did that too much in the past and that's why I failed.
@@Sindri27 My wife tells me that I love my trees and shrubs to death. I understand about doing too much and failed. =)
You’re my kind of gardener.
Super video Jason. You have gone so in depth and explain the rooting process so well. Refreshing to find some trustworthy information as opposed to clickbait-y content. Keep it up.
Just wow. Brilliantly laid out. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us, sir!!
Brilliant communication...
Evidence based analysis on Anecdotal information overflow on Internet. Subscribed. Excellent information and no melodrama. On the other note, it is very difficult to keep friends with such anti anecdotal, evidence based approach. :-)
I love how informative your videos are thumbs up 👍
Thanks Jason.
The Blessed Relief of rational, scientific explanation!
Why is it so hard nowdays, for people to accept facts?
They know better?
No, Ignorance is clearly more blissful...
Love your work and look forward to each vlog. 🌹
Science does not equal truth. if you know how scientific studies are performed you should know that it is the scientist performing them that decides where to take the study. the industry has created 90% of the studies to support their products. Who has any incentive to do a study to prove honey or any other method has any effect?
I grew up in Europe and after many years of using scientifically proven methods in life with no results ….. I started using the “Anecdotal EVIDENCE” shown to me by my ancestors and everything they did works far better than scientific sponsored evidence. ….. unless I do the study ….. it is ALL anecdotal evidence
Did i missed something in this video, he showed analyze results aka proof ...or just talk about numbers as lab tech ...
Re: banana and potato, isn't potassium supposed to promote root growth in plants (as a nutrient)? I have never used them nor would I promote them, but that is likely the thought process behind them.
That might be it. Not that feeding nutrients is even possible without roots, but at least I can see how the idea could form.
thank you for your time and all the valid points you've made, not everyone on u tube is an expert
Dear Jason! How much time do i have left before it’s too late to help with rooting hormones?
I hope I understand your question: if you didn't apply rooting hormone at the time of cutting, you can still apply it later anytime before you see callus
Amazing video!!!!! Keep the videos coming!
i never use rooting hormone and seem to still have a pretty good results. do you think rooting hormone would help my cuttings root faster, or just increase the percentage of cuttings that root? thanks.
I'm happy to hear about your success. Probably a bit of both - faster rooting means that some of the "borderline" cuttings make it instead of fail.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm cool. maybe the plants im rooting are just easy ones. thanks.
idk why but I noticed that a few drops!! of liquid fertiliser make my cuttings, that are in water, grow roots faster and stronger. its works for me and my plants are thriving so far.
Thanks for sharing your success!
Hi Jason, its Jason 😁 I am addressing the 'dirty' secrets surrounding all of these so-called rooting hormone substitutes on my weekly live stream 'garden variety' show tomorrow, 7PM CST .. it is an 'open' format, and expert guests are always welcome. I would love to pick your brain on what would be a more effective way of getting hormone out of Salix than an aqueous infusion .. if you're up to it.
I have a old bottle of rootone, does it loose potency over time?
Yes, I think I read the recommendation to replace unused product after 2 years.
i'm blaming you for having just purchased some roses online :)
more seriously got some empty spots and struggling to find enough nice flowers to fill in.
wife tried rose cuttings in potato. the cuttings died but the potato rooted and grew.
Thanks Chris. Good choice - happy to hear you have new roses on the way. My potato experience was similar! It's funny that the videos promoting it seldom ever show (successful) results
What about the 'rooting ball'?
I've seen someone have success with rooting balls they bought of Amazon
I haven't done much with air layering, but it looks like great fun. I'd be excited to try it.
If IBA is not water soluble would a powder or gel type be better that the one your dilute in water?
The liquid formulations are pre-dissolved in alcohol - and I've found them to be effective.
My rose cuttings grows leaves then wilt and die. What could be the problem? It grows leaves before roots. I’m only using dissolved aspirin as rooting hormone. Thanks.
I might suggest you switch over to an IBA based hormone and see if you can manage some bottom heat to promote root development - a heating mat can be useful for this (so long as your growing environment isn't too warm overall)
Fraser Valley Rose Farm thank you.
Any suggestion on what commercial rooting hormone is the best to use on cuttings? Thanks.
I like powders for ease of application. If I were growing in the US, I'd probably buy Hormodin #2 for semi-hardwood rose cuttings
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm for rosemary curry lavender softwood cuttings would you not go above hormodin #1 , going to have to buy some and I've not got the budget to buy the different strengths , as in the UK other costs are incurred on shipping & import , can't source equivalent iba powders at all in the UK , Bayer strike was my go to can't source any now & the clonex gel is messy and not cost effective
You share the true knowledge and thx so much
Did you actually try any of the other methods? It would seem pretty self defeating to make a vs video but then not actually do any experimentation to see what results you could achieve.
Yes.The only one I've done a video on is honey: ua-cam.com/video/R4ajtf7lF3Q/v-deo.html Willow water was so weak (for the reasons stated in the video) that I couldn't see a difference at all between treated and non-treated cuttings. I've since seen some additional instructions on how to prepare the willow water (in one of the more recent comments here) that look promising. Cinnamon seemed to have no effect for my cuttings (or seedlings, because I tried it to prevent rot on new seedlings too). I didn't try aloe, banana, onion - maybe when I have more time on my hands.
Oh that's good to hear, I apologize. I think willows main useful chemical would be the aspirin (salyclic acid) not sure what else the young branches would offer.
Thanks for the information...
I was trying in the past different methods that you mentioned and was for me a waist of time and root hormones gave me better results
Thanks for sharing 👍❤️😊
Hi. Thanks for the video. Is there a way to use rooting hormone powder and water propagate?
Hi Jason, Have you ever had massive callous on your cuttings and then have them stall out? I have some like that and they don’t seem to be rooting. At 6 weeks now I think.
Hi Michael - yes, I've run into this a few times. Sometimes they still make it, but more often I've given up on them. I couldn't tell if they were a bacterial root gall or just a hormonal problem with differentiation of tissues (I've read that overapplication of rooting hormone can do this). Because it's pretty infrequent, I haven't bothered to send it to the lab.
Great video. Quick question: best medium for starting lavender seedlings? Would a standard peat/perlite mix (like sunshine mix in BC) work ok? Or should sand be added for drainage?
Yes, I've had decent germination and early development in a peat/perlite mix
Lavender is one of the easiest plants to root. I use just a mix of sand and compost and get around 80% success rate.
I stick cuttings in my aquarium filter. They root in a few days. Good pH helps
Is working on non cuttings plants? I just want to this to may pepper plant
Willow water can be almost as viable as commercial rooting powder if prepared correctly. Although all Salix species contain these compounds, the amounts vary between species, it can be tested by how quick and easy it roots, the faster the more of those are in it, the second part is it needs to be new growth at the hight of its growth(extract can be frozen), the third is that it needs to be extracted at 80 C° (not higher!) for at least 30 min., the soluability is only 250 mg/L at 20 °C but is increased at 80 C° and can be aided by using a 0.03% (w/v) solution of potassium hydroxide which forms the more soluable IBA potassium salt.
It is also possible to use ethanol, methanol or acetone for the extraction(ofc. only outside or in a fumehood, never in the kitchen or greenhouse) as all of them are decent solvents for IBA, you should probably but the peeled off bark w/ cambium into a blender though to use less solvent, after the extraction it should be evaporated to a high concentration and then diluted with water to the desired concentration as more then a few ml/L of the solvents can harm the plants/cuttings.
Thanks for the detail - very helpful!
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm My pleasure, btw. when handling pure or highly concentrated potassium hydroxide, safety precautions must me taken, including gloves and eye protection, it is safest to buy a highly diluted form of potassium hydroxide and calculate how much more water must be added to achieve the desired concentration.
Also if you use the commercial powder or suspension, I found in the literature that the optimal concentration for inducing AR formation is often much lower than common powders, it seems to depend on how woody the material is and also on the species/genus/family.
Usually in the range of micrograms up to 1 mg/L seem to work best, at higher concentration the effects can be reversed, rooting powder has sometimes amounts in the g/L so it is far off the scale, I expect it mainly works by the little bit that got into the cutting when the rooting powder is washed off by watering the cuttings.
I found a study about Rosa rugosa, that might be the most relevant to you, they found concentrations of 10^-7 Mol work best, this means they used around 0.175mg/L (175μg/L).
You can order IBA K (that's the more soluble potassium salt) use a precision scale (they only cost a few bucks) add the amount to water and then dilute with more water until you get to the mid or low μg/L range, then let your cuttings sit in this solution for at least 30 seconds, or at these low concentrations you can also water your plants with the IBA water during the first days.
If you want to determine the best amount for your roses, you could also try a few different concentrations if you mix them yourself and also try soaking times.
Here is the study: www.mdpi.com › pdfPDF
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@@FruitingPlanet what can you say about clonex gel and clonex mist?
@@MJafro glonex gel does work, especially on hardwood and semi-hardwood cuttings, however as stated in the last comment, for most plants the concentrations are way too high and with some it can even hinder root formation.
Look into peoples experience with the plant you want to propagate first before using it.
Hi Jason just seen your new beautiful very interesting video willow water and other ideas did not work for me oh and someone had the idea a few years ago to give plants soda or the Epsom salts which unfortunately killed my carnation and pansy cuttings and seedlings and my other rise trees so all I have now is the one rose tree from last year growing much better thanks to you and sharing your knowledge and very interesting videos thank you so much stay safe keep well happy and healthy ❤️
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Thank you! I really appreciated the video in which you investigated the safety of rooting hormone and this one is? of course? useful and well considered as well.
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Oh where, oh where did those question marks come from?!
What if i took willow twigs and let them dry, then powdered them, and used than powder like rooting hormone powder? would that solve some of the water solubility issues?
Worth a try just for fun.
Hi do you know best method with a snow fountains cherry tree? Thanks
Thanks Luke. I haven't propagated from cherry, but I've read that it's semi-hardwood, fully hardwood cuttings or grafting. For the cuttings, you're looking for mature stems from *this* year's growth taken in summer or fall.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you
Hi there, I want to ask you about chorisia speciosa How to propagate it from cuttings? and thank you for the useful information.
It's not present in my climate, so I have no first-hand experience to share. Internet sources say seed propagation or grafting - but don't mention own-root cuttings. I'd be keen to try air layering, just to see.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you for your time, and i hope the best for you.
What about willow extracted in alcohole? That will increase the concentration of hormones dramatically.
Not sure - it's the kind of thing that requires more science than I want to put in, when I can get the rooting hormone fairly easily at a known concentration.
I did the same research as you did. It was my conclusion that willow should be extracted in alcohol.....like dip-n-grow. It would need to be tried in an experiment with a control. Also, the amount of hormone is seasonal and is located in green growing shoots at greater and lesser amounts.
It’s still a maybe in my mind.
I agree, water based willow tea is hocum.
Thanks for the input John. Always appreciated.
I looked in your Amazon recommendations but didn’t see rooting hormone. Any specific ones you prefer? I’m guessing my purposes will be for easy rooting plants.
Hi Lori. They're in the Propagation Supplies list: a.co/gnCvHdc The most similar to what I use is Hormex #3 (at 0.3% IBA
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Hi Jason, from seeing lots of your videos I know you’re a proponent of own-root roses and if I had the choice I would definitely choose them over grafted roses. But what if you want a specific rose that’s only offered with a graft... I have seen claims that if planted with the graft below the soil line, those branches will develop roots, so it ‘becomes’ an own-root rose over time. Have you ever seen this happen and would that increase the longevity of the plant similar to an own-root rose? Thanks for your great videos and information!
There are times when I would choose a grafted rose - but, yes, my first choice for most situations would be own-root. If you have a grafted rose, (and it's not patented) I'd always encourage you to try some cuttings. Having both the grafted mother and the resulting own-root rose is good insurance and good fun. Planting deep could do the job - and I've heard the same things you have. The problem is that I have seen a number of examples of deeply planted roses where there doesn't seem to be much root development on the buried scion portion (after years in the ground). Because I plant my graft at or near ground level, I can't offer too much except what I've found digging in other peoples gardens - so take it for what it's worth.
Jason, thanks so much for all your very informative videos. I've learned so much!
Question: Some folks advocate roughing up or gently scraping the outside of a cutting to create minor wounds before apply a rooting hormone. Do you think there is any benefit to this practice?
Yes - additional surface area creates more tissue for callus/roots to initiate. The trade-off is that it also creates more openings for rot organisms. Some propagators swear by it, and for some varieties, it may be the very best thing. I'd experiment with it more if I had time, but as is I just try to take a clean cut, dip and stick (with reasonable success)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I heard Holy basil (Ocimum tenuiflorum) has something in it that acts as a rooting hormone that you can grind up then strain the it through a filter(like a coffee filter or something similar) and add a little water to the filter to get more liquids from the plant and use it as a rooting hormone
JimmyB Harvest did a comparison using cinnamon. Pretty helpful.
Almost all commercial rooting hormones say not to use on food crops.
I just checked the Hormodin label and found fruiting shrubs on it. I can't say what regulatory reason the warning is for, the since IBA is naturally present in food crops (and is being used at such an incredibly low rate) I'd have no hesitation about it.
Great insight as aways, thanks your sharing.
I’ve got one. I’ve been reading up on some carbohydrate supplementations for plants and found that honey has a good deal of glucose in it. What if you used a rooting solution to start and watered with honey mixed in.
I’ve tried honey dipping in the past and never got much for results, but this is just a new thing I’ve thought up.
Interesting. I wouldn't rule it out, but unless we're reading different sources it's always been my impression that plants have a difficult time with uptake on complex organic molecules like sugar.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Strange, I had made a reply but it disappeared; but basically, complex sugars like we consume are not taken up by plants, however plants use chlorophyll to mainly synthesize glucose, and later store it as sucrose.
I got this idea from someone trying to save their moon cactus scion on Reddit. As moon cactuses grafted to dragonfruit root stocks, they have been cultivated to lack chlorophyll, giving them their bright colors, they cannot survive on their own, but can root before dying. While doing some reading on glucose to try it on my own, I came across several of your videos that I liked. I wasn’t surprised the honey dip didn’t work, but I couldn’t help wondering how they might take to honey supplemented after being given a normal rooting treatment, and thought it would make interesting content for you.
Also, I see you’re near Vancouver and I’d love to stop by next time I’m driving to the coast.
As someone who wants to be more self-sufficient, I'd be interested in hearing how rooting hormone powders are made, or, how one could make something akin to a store bought one. I have time and love to try things out, so I may start rooting around (ha) for something like that soon!
Some people experiment with willow water, but I haven't played with it too much myself.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I went digging a bit and kind of want to try something like alcohol or ethanol infused with willow? It seems IBA is a bit more soluble in alcohols. However, I don't have a way to actually read how much IBA ends up in the water, and I would only be able to dip the plants in for 5 seconds at a time to avoid killing them. I don't know, just an idea and maybe something to try next time I get some willow on hand!
what rooting hormone do you recommend?
Just about all of the commercially available hormones are based on IBA, and my favorite form is powder. Something like Hormodin (or StimRoot if here in Canada). The products are available with different concentrations of IBA, and for the semi-hardwood cuttings I normally take (on roses) it's 0.3 or 0.4%
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Hi Jason, thanks for another great video! Perfectly clear and helpful! I'm wondering if you have any experience with rooting stem cuttings of "Platycodon - Blue Balloon Flower". The specific variety is "Pop Star", though that likely doesn't matter. I have 2 plants that are still in their pots from a nearby garden center waiting to go into our new landscaping as soon as it is complete, and because they have been blooming prolifically since I purchased them about a month ago, I'd like to "clone them", especially after watching your video on growing lavender from cuttings vs. from seeds. I realize it's late in the season, but would still like to give it a go. I haven't found a single article or video on growing this plant from cuttings, and just wondered if you knew anything about whether or not it can be done successfully. I plan to do it as I would any other softwood cutting... moisture, light, light compost and soil mix, hormone powder, but wondered what you might know about this plant. Thanks for your time, Jason!
But in my thoughts, if you prepare cuttings properly you won't need a rooting hormone since they have that hormone stored in their leaf nodes. So you can scrape the node before planting so more success rooting during the 2-4 week period.
Hi Valerie - it's that delay in accumulating the natural rooting hormones into the bottom nodes that produces such a difference in speed (and overall rate) of rooting. Decades of studies (and commercial practice) bear this out. I won't argue a second against someone's personal choice to avoid synthetic hormone application - that's your prerogative. And it's true that you can have a good success rate without added hormone on easy-to-moderate cuttings. But the rate and speed improves with hormone application - and on difficult-to-root plants, there's just no good substitute.
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How about aspirin, does it work?
Not as a rooting hormone
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Anyone know what willow water is?
I've heard people make it from crushing willow stems into water and/or boiling it - the idea being that you can get some of the rooting hormone from it. Some people swear by it, but I haven't seen anything consistent on how to make it to a set concentration like I'd be able to get rooting powder.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Are you talking about a willow tree? Branches from a willow tree?
There are loads of species of willow. Some are trees, some are shrubs, but yes, the people who recommend willow water are saying you should crush the young stems of a willow variety and prepare a rooting solution in water.
Can I use rooting hormones on seeds
The seeds don't require rooting hormone, and it may do more harm than good.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm how can I make then germinate on full success
@@adonisphurailatapam4035 Hydrogen Peroxide helps hard shelled (old) seeds germinate.
nice vedio... from Bangladesh
In other words rooting agents definitely help the process along and alot of the time faster
I like using raw honey for rooting cuttings.
Works real good.
Is the honey good for rooting ? Really?
@@고센장성 yes
@@valeriesanchez3074 Thank you very much for quick answer.
I will try asap.
Will manuka honey work? That’s all I have lol.
@@AshleyAshleyAshley395 well honey is honey i dont see why not
Does rooting hormone really cause cancer?
I did research for another video on the safety of rooting hormone: ua-cam.com/video/rFFYKanfudw/v-deo.html It's pretty much like handling talcum powder - don't breathe it or ingest it, but otherwise low risk.
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I wonder tho, because the anectodal evidence for cinnamon seems pretty good, maybe tha should be studied a bit :)
Maybe so. I've seen some small studies with inconclusive results - but the same can be said for a lot of household spices and remedies: loads of anecdotal evidence, but little science. I guess that's why the herbal remedy market is so lucrative!
I just used water and my cuttings grew ....
Worm castings is your alternative.
Thanks - but I couldn't track down any studies on worm castings used in cutting propagation. I saw one study where it seemed to help with the early development of radish seedlings, ut that could be quite a different matter.
Worm casting have sprouting and root hormones
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apple cider?
I know you said potato as a joke, however potato peels are one of the highest natural occurring sources of IBA. Lol great video.
Just a thought here....love your channel...but...The hormone is male, and from what I've been advised it's important that women don't inhale the powder.
Perhaps I was mistaught during my horticulture studies. ...? But I'd use honey and have peace of mind.
Hi Julane. No one should inhale the powder because it could irritate your lungs - this is the same as baby powder (talc). I'd be very skeptical of any teaching that rooting hormone is "male" - there's just no basis to apply that term to a plant hormone in relation to animal biology.
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I've had good results with a method you didn't mention... using nothing.
I'm not a commercial grower but do desire successful propagation. To increase my odds of success I make sure it's the right time/season to clone. Another factor to consider is the health of the parent plant. I've learned not to attempt saving a perpetually dormant plant. It's too easy to succeed at propagating those! I'll spare you more silly common sense tips but will say gardening is a constant learning process. Unless you want to grow dirt ~
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