Heavy Cuts With The BIG Boring Bar (It's a BEAST!!)
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- It's been a crazy week in the shop!
This video is a SPECIAL "FULL NOISE" EDITION that gives you a full 10+ uninterrupted minutes of pure heavy duty machining with the biggest bar in our shop "THE BEAST" (featured on a previous video "THE BIG GUNS")
The sound is left at 100% so you can hear exactly what I hear when running this monster, and there's a bunch of extra footage left out last time. In my humble opinion, the sound of Carbide vs 4140 steel is about as sweet as it gets... and this bar just goes HARD!
Tools we're using:
1) The KRAKEN. A shop made 110mm custom HTS style tool to drill over 500mm deep. This is the first time we've ever run this crazy tool... and it's an absolute weapon.
2) THE BEAST. Our biggest, baddest and newest metal monster. 95mm in diameter fitted with a Kennametal KM80 head. It's a fully shop made tool with through coolant and capable of boring up to half a meter deep!
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About HAL Heavy Duty:
We're a real life machine shop for a 60 year old drilling company located in Central Qld, Australia. Our job is to keep rigs running in the field, constantly making the gear they need to get the job done. We run two CNC's, manual repair lathes, mills and are constantly having to make weird and wonderful shop made tools to get the job done. We're a little shop that takes on big projects. The latest is our MEGADRILL project where we're manufacturing a 3.0m drill bit that'll weigh upward of 20 tonnes. We release one video a week (usually on Friday/Saturday) to give you all a window into our heavy duty world.
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‘The Beast’ living up to its name. Another corker mate. The next guarantees to be very interesting 😎
Can you imagine trying to do what you’re doing with HSS tooling, like what us old timers did way back in the day ? 😱
It baffles me how those legendary gentlemen got it done with the tooling at hand.
Serious skill and plenty of patience
I would like to say thank you. I have autism and i find listening to this is calming. You and Cutting Edge Engineering have made my life better, as well as all the other channels that do knife making. Thank you for providing good white noise. :)
Hey Russell, thanks for the feedback my friend. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I've personally found machining to be really soothing and calming myself. Just the sound of it all puts me in a very good mood. Glad I'm not the only one mate. Cheers brother.
Congrats with new drill. A beauty😈. Do you run it full diameter,130mm? How does that work out with machine torque and feed power?
The 130mm is too big (I think) for HAL the CNC… and we’re short on bed length.
We used the hulk and it didn’t even register. The power of that engine lathe is phenomenal.
@@halheavyduty I suspected that. I saw it run well on Hulk. Also steady toolposts is crucial on those size tools, as the machine can pull it around, but other things give in eventually.
I’d like to nominate your coolant pump and your chip conveyor for best supporting actor.
I second that.
I think we filled fully three swarf bins in 3 hours.
@@jimsvideos7201 🤣😂🤣
how about a few specs on doc, feed rate like cris maj does?
Definitely going to start doing that for future videos. Great suggestion. Thank you
Ode to The Road Warrior......Call it Lord Humongous!
I concur
Lord Humongous is what they're building.
@@jfbeam Exactly! I caught that subtle hint from Matt!
Mad Max all the way.
Does the Scrap metal guy keep the 4140 swarf and scrap separate from mild steel or does it all get mixed together when making new steel?
Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
It all gets mixed together. Alloy goes separately though.
unleash the Beast....cheers from Florida, USA, the other Sunshine State.....Paul
Cheers my friend! Always love seeing you pop up in the comments mate. Here since day 1. Legend.
Hey HAL Heavy duty Machining Australia! I recommend you name the next super tool "Gigantor" after the robot from the 1960s Japanese animated tv show! Love the shots where you get the cam right in close to the action! I suggest you get an insta360 Go3 cam so you can fit into smaller spaces! Ride ride ride!
Cheers mate! Thanks for the suggestions and great feedback. Much appreciated my friend.
Ah mate me old Southbend could do that all day long. Good vidio.
I’m pretty sure Hal originally started with an old Southbend! 🤣👊✌️
Recon a good name for the new bar
HAL BOY after the movie but using you shop name
Cheers
HALBOY is a cool name.
I like it
Time to buy a VTL it would murder that job . But even so that's awsome to watch
We are def considering it.
Gday Matt call it Rocky, pay homage to its origins.
It definitely packs a punch 🤛
That's getting right after it. The Beast sounds real good in your program. Did you test it over 100% yet?
It's had a bloody good workout. I'm itching for another big billet to throw in the lathe for another round. I suspect I won't have to wait long...
Awesome! Can't wait to see the next steps!
More to come 💯👊
Happy days Matt, certainly doing the business there buddy, have a wonderful weekend
Thanks mate!
I'm going to guess that this boring bar won't be used with watch repair...
It probably weighs more than the typical jewellers lathe haha
@@alankeith7866 brain surgery
which cutting oil are you using
It’s called Holemaker. Made by ITM. Seems to work well on 4140
OMG 😱 that’s. So cool 😎
Thanks mate!
impressive
Thank you 👊🙏
That is some serious metal cutting. Awesome stuff to see! Looking forward to the next one 🤙🏼
Cheers mate!
Just an idea but your new bar name might be SASQUATCH.
Also my favorite time in machining is when the chips come off in a tight curl and instantly turn blue. Comes off with a squeaky pop
I'm going to build an entire bar set dedicated to SASQUATCH Lore. Haha. Love it.
YETI
YOWIE
BIGFOOT
SASQUATCH
Hi Hal, Paul K from the UK here, like you, we always used the hand to check bar for vibration, as vibration is a tip (insert) killer, same as sound, if the machine was singing to you as it cut you knew everything was running smoothly and chipping well. Also I see you keep the coolant rate up high, helps get rid of the chips and prolongs tool life. In the heavy machine shop we used to say we produced mans swarf not the boys swarf that the general machinists made. By the end of the video my ears were telling me I was back in the machine shop lol. Keep up the good work and cheers from the UK. P.S. Have you thought of Colossus as a name for the new Boring Bar.
Love it Paul! Man swarf 💯 off the beast.
Colossus is def on the cards. We’ve had some bloody unreal games come up so far.
The absolute best soundtrack ever, true heavy metal. Almost need a monster hole saw, chip extraction might be tricky, save the billet core. Monster annular cutter and a lot of pecking
🤘💯
Have you thought about Goliath as a name for the new bar?
Google searched the meaning.
giant
Definitions of goliath. noun. someone or something that is abnormally large and powerful. synonyms: behemoth, colossus, giant, monster.
It’s on the list for sure
I worked in a defense/aerospace machine shop in the '70s, with some great machinists and toolmakers. Saw a huge casting disintegrate, while being turned on a big Clausing lathe. The old machinist just ducked, as a big chunk flew by, stepped to the side, shut it down. Somebody in the supply chain was up to no good, and got found out.
Fark. We had a steady bearing go on the Hulk with the 1 tonne billet yesterday.
Safe to say we couldn’t hit the E STOP fast enough 🤣
Acoustically & Harmonically is a machinist given right to RMR & Butterbean another name
Butterbean! Love it
Hi Matt, nothing like a strange noise to get you attention, not sure if the kraken shouldn't be called the Krappen because you maybe craping yourself whenever you run it🤣. Keep up the good work, cheers Gary
Krappen for sure 😜💩
Those cuts are looking hefty! Have you looked into other holders aside from Kennametal for the bar? Seco Jetstream holders have fantastic delivery to the cutting edge in my experience but do come with a high price tag to start with
Have you tried a high pressure pump for those holders too? Wondered if that might let you get the surface speed up a bit if you've got plenty to do
I've looked into a bunch, but we already had a bunch of Kennametal tooling so I stuck with it. I'm sure there's comparable / better stuff out there, it just makes life way easier for me to stick to a few good suppliers. We typically use Iscar, Kennametal (and some Seco and Palbit)
I'm always interested in what other good stuff is out there though. It seems tooling is advancing at a pretty rapid rate these days.
Wow again good job, on the first bar you have put two black bracket, are these for size control or working as dampener. Thanks hope to see more job from your end.
Thanks mate. Yep… double dampener on the big bar
Hello have you ever thought of trepanning those billets out you would have a piece of usable material left over.
We usually prefer trepanning, but our largest trepanning bit wasnt suitable for this particular part. At a guess, we trepan about 80% of the bigger billets in the shop. We usually get a 7" hole and a 6"slug left over - which is bloody great considering how much steel costs.
two things float my boat...machining big cuts with a perfect chipstream and the sound that goes with it and big diesel gennys under heavy load. both are pure music to me 🙂
With you 100% on that one mate!
Appreciate it, but as a small shop, it's hard to justify the cost of coolant cleanup far and wide.
Hey mate, not sure what you mean?
It’s a sealed CNC unit.
No mess at all.
Could the new tool be "Thanos" or "Shiva - Destroyer of worlds"
Shiva. Excellent name!
Given that the new bar is for Hulk, Maybe left fist, and right fist...
Hulks fist is def on the shortlist
Do you chill down the lubricant before it is reintroduced to the cutting edge?
The tank is big enough that it doesn’t get super hot. No chiller needed, as we don’t run insanely tight tolerances.
Gotter bit of swarf coming on there mate
Interesting to see what the bigger bar can do
Keeping the mettle recycling industry going for sure bit of a shame but if you can't get round bar of the right diameter then so be it
Certainly will be a drill to see in action for sure
Hope the drill rig can handle it
Thanks for showing the progress of this monster and what you are having to do to make the thing
Hope its all worth the tooling
Cheers from up North
Cheers mate! Not long now until we see if these rods are gonna handle the bit.
And if the rig just spins in a circle when the bit bites in 🤣
How come you didn't make a trepanning bit but chose to make a mountain of swarf ?
We usually use the trepanning tool, but this billet was too big for it.
We chose the HTS DRILL as it’s more reusable for other jobs. We are unlikely to have to do another billet this big for a while.
Could have gone either way to be honest, but having a 130mm drill for the nature of the work we do is really useful.
Great question by the way. We did debate it in the shop.
😮 I looked at the first drill bit and said 'Kracken' before I read the name and I thought that was getting a bit weird.
It's a worry! 😅
Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
Haha. The Kraken is about to get a second chance at life…
Really nice for a middle size CNC lathe. Pilot Drill of the kraken should be made of carbide so you can skip this time wasting backwards forwards steps.
Think about a adjustable chip breaker on top oft the beast insert.
Lot of respect for your work even this size is kindergarten to me.
Greetings from Germany ✌️
Nice! Yeah, we've pretty much maxxed out what our mid sized lathe can do. Def time for an upgrade. What kind of work do you do? Very interested - and a big G'day from the other side of the world mate.
@@halheavyduty
Saarschmiede GmbH in Saarland Germany
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This is a boring video which is absolutely not boring!
Haha. Cheers mate!
name for the boring bar under construction " The Beast Master"
Turns out the beast still reigns supreme when it comes to cutting performance.
Tiny goes the distance
The beast hammers
Can I ask what Oil do you run in the Hulk? We have the next one down from Hulk. Lathe didn't come with a manual. Cheers. Also great videos!!!
Cheers mate! Yeah, we didn’t get a manual either 🤣
Just 11 tonnes of pure Hulk 👊
The coolant is called “Holemaker” by ITM. Stuff works great and doesn’t go off.
@@halheavyduty Cheers! I was after the Headstock oil. Sorry I should've been more specific. Headstock oil is what I'm after. But on the coolant, hole maker is that the same pink coolant you use in the CNC's?
I think turning is mostly boring, but you make it look quite interesting.
Haha. It can be… probably why I spend half my time either researching stuff or making up names for tools.
Boredom leads to creativity in my opinion 👊🤣
i always like the noise when a big drill breaks through, its like a plane landing 😀. matt could you do a short vid explaining where the idea/concept and need for this project came from, also whats going to be mined at such depths? 👍
Definitely can do in a future video. Will explain it all and show some more footage of the drill bit being constructed.
@@halheavyduty looking forward to it matt 👍
When do you think you'll make a trepanning tool?
We already have a fairly big one, but I need to make another one sometime soon. Fortunatley we seem to be able to source hollow bar 4140 in large volumes (for now)... so not as frequent that we need to core stuff out.
That’s a deep cutting
Those inserts love a good heavy cut.
???Do you have to comp for tool spring on the finish cut
Surprisingly no. It didn't budge. It kept within tolerance fortunately.
I am waiting on the 1,000,000 gram cut!! Ray
Love it Ray. Legend.
How about a competition with the viewers to name the new bar?
Great idea John. I’ll do that when we build the next big bar for the CNC.
You are my favorite C.N.C channel at the moment. I seem to be machining very similar stuff to you.
Cheers brother. Where do you work? Curious what kind of stuff you guys are making.
@@halheavyduty we in North Vic. We are a Ag Machinery Dealership. So we do lots of stuff for that. The CNC work at the moment is building gear boxs for McCullochs drilling rigs. Doing the Housing, gears, drive spindles etc..
Following monster lore, Cthulu!
Love it.
well done on 10k subscribers 👍👍
Thanks Pete! Really grateful to all the wonderful supporters in the little community that's building on here. So many fine folks.
The Beast was Hogging out metal!
It's a hungry beast! Loves it.
You should nitride a boring bar and name it mandingo
🤣🤣👍
The stars of the show here are those inserts. What a life!
Accurate AF 💯🤣👊
Name the next boring bar Behemoth!
It’s on the shortlist! There’s so many good names coming up. You guys all rock.
Metal rule the land
We're heavy duty.
All hail the heavy metal monsters
Music to my Ears :)
💯✌️
soo cooool ;)
Thank you
Hola Matt, 🇦🇷🇦🇺
Hola amigo! Te mando saludos del otro lado del mundo.
Отличная работа.
Thank you 🙏👊
Good morning Matt, another good video. You are so correct about the sound from the machining operation as you get to know when you are in the "'sweet spot'' so to speak. When I worked for Seco Tools here in New Zealand I used the following formula to check if changes in cutting data was a step forward or backward as the game is always to get that material out the quickest and safest way. The formula for turning - Metal Removal Rate is Q = Vc x f x ap. The result Q is cubic cent. per minute. Its a very usefull way of checking that any changes are positive or not. I also have a similar formula for milling as well if you want it. Milling is a good one as there are a lot more variables. Cheers Ian
Interesting! Thanks for sharing. I'll use that. Very handy. Thank you.
Makes you wonder how the old timers got it done in the steam age! Those boys got some huge work done, all without carbide tooling. But wages were not really a factor back then I suppose. Plenty of cheap manpower! Fantastic to see this.
It blows my mind when I watch documentaries on the original steam powered HSS steel tooled lathes and mills that built the modern world.
Mega respect for all those who paved the way.
Damn bro, I’m running out of badass name ideas for these ever badder tools you keep coming up with!
Me too!
Love it!
When you started with "The Kraken" the chips that came out looked like crunched sheet metal.
Matt it is a pleasure to see the look of enjoyment on your face. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Colin. Yep... Honestly I was just glad that the KRAKEN got the job done. Good as it is for a shop made tool... the HTS Kennametal one we just bought absolutely leaves it for dead performance wise.
Worth the investment.
Sending love from Houston, Texas :)
🙏👊
" That was unexpected " could have been worse, could be no tool under the swarf Is the 3 metre drill a one off?
The 3m drill is the first of its kind, but I somehow doubt it'll be a one off. If the project is successful... I think the demand for it will mean we do more of them.