I just bought a used 2021 Steiner 450 with turf tires. Living in the pacific NW is always wet here. Do you think bar tires would be better in wet grass on slopes…or are the field track tires a winner? I have duals on the Steiner and the turf tires aren’t doing that great.
@@stoweman34 on my previous zero turn I had the bar style tires and it did well on the hills but with your Steiner I’d think you’d be better off overall with something like the ‘Field Trax’ tires and the tread they have. You’d probably be OK with either style but if I had a Steiner I think I’d want the field trax tires unless I had really rough conditions (then I might want the bar style Carlisle tires). The regular turf tires can be a but dangerous on hills when it’s wet and they slip.
@@ThePhotographyHobbyist Thx for the reply…I probably should have mentioned it’s 5’ tall brush and I’m using the Rough Cut deck to mow. It’s not grass like I mentioned in my previous question/comment.
@@stoweman34 ah OK. So you don’t have to worry about damaging your lawn. The AT101 Chevron tires are what I used in the past. It comes in three sizes. Seems 24x12.00-12 is the most common size for large professional zero turn mowers. Not sure what size tires yours will need but hopefully they have a size for you. www.carlstar.com/our-products/lawn-garden-golf/
Funny.. I'm not sure which was 1st, Carlisle or CST, but several years ago we got the X758 4x4 with the *CST Turf Trax* on her stock(!) and they're mysteriously similar.. Thoughts, sir?
@@ThePhotographyHobbyist hmmm.. interesting, since John Deere gave it to us w/ those and not the Carliles.. hope I'll manage to find the latter soon even though the CST were great too. The rears are atill good and only the fronts are at the end of their lives after being on since day 1..
@@generaldistrust I think they use CST strictly because of the cost sometimes. The Carlisle brand are often made in USA and better quality That was my experience with front zero turn tires anyway.
@@ThePhotographyHobbyist any of those two would work because the pattern they both have is superior to all 'turf' type tyres.. and I've tried many in my last 12 yrs riding mowers, from V-twin zero turns to fully loaded inline-3 diesel 4x4's .. if the local Carlisle dealer has them - the better. Ever since I tried this pattern of tires - it's hard 2 go back
Stan Wilhite Definitely! I even replaced those rock hard no flat front tires with the replacement air filled tires. Not blown up like balloons of course :-)
Unless you mow construction sites (or other similar hazardous properties) softly aired up front pneumatics are the only way to go....especially if you're like me w/a bad back/neck (and old). :-)PS Or Tweels if you want to spend some $.
The Carlisle AT101 bar style tires are actually less destructive than these tires. I had the AT101 tires on my old exmark and they did really well. Only issue was if you slid and then they got traction again during the slide, they could dig into the sod. Anyway, I'm using Carlisle Turf Smart tires now and love them! Even on the hills they do much better than I thought they would so that's my tire of choice now. Not the Turf Master, but the Turf Smart tires. Like these: ua-cam.com/video/9jIDmiMbV4s/v-deo.html
Hooked on Photography i run 12 psi in the stock tires, do you think if i drop it down to 9 or 10 psi id get a bit more "grip" i also cut a lot of hilly areas. i have huge commercial accounts.
I ran my stock Carlisle Turf Master tires around 9 PSI mostly because the ride was SO much better (softer/more comfortable). I wouldn't go much below 9 PSI assuming we're talking about 24x12-12 size tires because the lower you go the more the tire will tend to roll side to side and that's not good if you're on hills...but not really an issue without hills. If you lowered the pressure to 9 or 10 I think you'd feel an improvement in the ride/comfort but not too sure it would help a lot on hills. Maybe if the hills are bumpy the lower pressure would allow more of the tire to stay in contact with the ground as you go over the bumps. If you do lower the pressure, I'd be sure to check the deck pitch and height again since that might throw off the height and pitch just a little.
I've had the AT101 in the past and from what I've experienced, if I had to do it again I would probably buy the AT101 since the traction is similar but the AT101 doesn't tear up lightly grassed areas as much. I will probably sacrifice the traction and switch back to a normal turn tire this year because these HD Field Trax tires are too aggressive in turns or if you ever slide a little going downhill at an angle (they dig in and tear up the grass).
Yes. I actually just removed these tires and replaced them with the Carlisle Turf Smart tires. I had the AT101 in the past on my Exmark and while it had potential for damage if you slid or turned too tightly, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as these Field Trax tires. I haven't mowed my hills with the Turf Smart tires yet when it was wet, but so far I'm really loving the Turf Smart tires. They're easy on the grass and have great traction on the hills (only mowed when it was dry so far though). I'm curious to see how they do when it's wet too. I figured I'd go with the Turf Smart tires instead of the AT101 just to be safe (lower chance of damage) and knowing they might be limited for traction compared to the AT101.
@@ThePhotographyHobbyist I wonder how those Smart Turf Tores compare to the Armstrong Turf Tires that come on the Bobcat mowers. I am getting ready to buy a Bobcat and sont know if I need to upgrade tires when I buy it or try what's on there 1st. I have a good size hill I'll be mowing. 13-14 degree hill.
@@adamaustin3373 I've never user Armstrong tires but I just looked at Bobcat's web site and if those tires I see on the current model zero turns there are what you would end up with, they look pretty nice. I'd give them a try first.
Kim Wiltz Yes they do. I had the AT101 tires in the past and these tires in my video are even more aggressive in tight turns. You have to be careful especially in areas with only light grass or it will rip it up on turns. But...they’re great otherwise and good for the hills i have.
You said zero turn mowers have less traction backing up hill than going forward, but it depends on the style of zero turn. If you have a front deck rather than mid deck your traction is much better backing uphill.
I just bought a used 2021 Steiner 450 with turf tires. Living in the pacific NW is always wet here. Do you think bar tires would be better in wet grass on slopes…or are the field track tires a winner? I have duals on the Steiner and the turf tires aren’t doing that great.
@@stoweman34 on my previous zero turn I had the bar style tires and it did well on the hills but with your Steiner I’d think you’d be better off overall with something like the ‘Field Trax’ tires and the tread they have. You’d probably be OK with either style but if I had a Steiner I think I’d want the field trax tires unless I had really rough conditions (then I might want the bar style Carlisle tires). The regular turf tires can be a but dangerous on hills when it’s wet and they slip.
@@ThePhotographyHobbyist Thx for the reply…I probably should have mentioned it’s 5’ tall brush and I’m using the Rough Cut deck to mow. It’s not grass like I mentioned in my previous question/comment.
@@stoweman34 ah OK. So you don’t have to worry about damaging your lawn. The AT101 Chevron tires are what I used in the past. It comes in three sizes. Seems 24x12.00-12 is the most common size for large professional zero turn mowers. Not sure what size tires yours will need but hopefully they have a size for you.
www.carlstar.com/our-products/lawn-garden-golf/
Just put an exact set on my Deere ztrac 667A
I have those on my x540, lowering the psi and that thing will float over anything. Great tires .
How do the tires do on wet grass uphills ?
Funny.. I'm not sure which was 1st, Carlisle or CST, but several years ago we got the X758 4x4 with the *CST Turf Trax* on her stock(!) and they're mysteriously similar.. Thoughts, sir?
the Turf Trax are durable as heck, and traction is superb. Can't get them anymore where I'm at so I'm trying to find the Carlisle's
I could be wrong but I think CST is one of those copycat companies that makes tires similar to what Carlisle has been making first, for many years.
@@ThePhotographyHobbyist hmmm.. interesting, since John Deere gave it to us w/ those and not the Carliles.. hope I'll manage to find the latter soon even though the CST were great too. The rears are atill good and only the fronts are at the end of their lives after being on since day 1..
@@generaldistrust I think they use CST strictly because of the cost sometimes. The Carlisle brand are often made in USA and better quality That was my experience with front zero turn tires anyway.
@@ThePhotographyHobbyist any of those two would work because the pattern they both have is superior to all 'turf' type tyres.. and I've tried many in my last 12 yrs riding mowers, from V-twin zero turns to fully loaded inline-3 diesel 4x4's .. if the local Carlisle dealer has them - the better. Ever since I tried this pattern of tires - it's hard 2 go back
Good to see someone that understands how much difference (in ride characteristics) a few psi make!
Stan Wilhite Definitely! I even replaced those rock hard no flat front tires with the replacement air filled tires. Not blown up like balloons of course :-)
Unless you mow construction sites (or other similar hazardous properties) softly aired up front pneumatics are the only way to go....especially if you're like me w/a bad back/neck (and old). :-)PS Or Tweels if you want to spend some $.
I have the ag tires on my tractor. I keep them at 10 p.s.i. They don't really tear up my yard if I keep them at that pressure.
The Carlisle AT101 bar style tires are actually less destructive than these tires. I had the AT101 tires on my old exmark and they did really well. Only issue was if you slid and then they got traction again during the slide, they could dig into the sod. Anyway, I'm using Carlisle Turf Smart tires now and love them! Even on the hills they do much better than I thought they would so that's my tire of choice now. Not the Turf Master, but the Turf Smart tires. Like these: ua-cam.com/video/9jIDmiMbV4s/v-deo.html
Carlisle All-Trail II tires are also pretty good. I have them on the drives of my John Deere F725.
nice mower. those tires make it look even better. i run 997r and have the stock tires but they are all i need and work well.
Thanks
Hooked on Photography i run 12 psi in the stock tires, do you think if i drop it down to 9 or 10 psi id get a bit more "grip" i also cut a lot of hilly areas. i have huge commercial accounts.
I ran my stock Carlisle Turf Master tires around 9 PSI mostly because the ride was SO much better (softer/more comfortable). I wouldn't go much below 9 PSI assuming we're talking about 24x12-12 size tires because the lower you go the more the tire will tend to roll side to side and that's not good if you're on hills...but not really an issue without hills. If you lowered the pressure to 9 or 10 I think you'd feel an improvement in the ride/comfort but not too sure it would help a lot on hills. Maybe if the hills are bumpy the lower pressure would allow more of the tire to stay in contact with the ground as you go over the bumps. If you do lower the pressure, I'd be sure to check the deck pitch and height again since that might throw off the height and pitch just a little.
i will try that. thanks a lot.
Nice video. For traction on hills would you recommend these over the AT101's?
I've had the AT101 in the past and from what I've experienced, if I had to do it again I would probably buy the AT101 since the traction is similar but the AT101 doesn't tear up lightly grassed areas as much. I will probably sacrifice the traction and switch back to a normal turn tire this year because these HD Field Trax tires are too aggressive in turns or if you ever slide a little going downhill at an angle (they dig in and tear up the grass).
Thanks for the reply. I will be buying something as I am slipping all over the place with the stock tires on our hills. Have a great day!
So in all the comments it seems you prefer the A101 over these for traction on hills and overall performance correct?
Yes. I actually just removed these tires and replaced them with the Carlisle Turf Smart tires. I had the AT101 in the past on my Exmark and while it had potential for damage if you slid or turned too tightly, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as these Field Trax tires. I haven't mowed my hills with the Turf Smart tires yet when it was wet, but so far I'm really loving the Turf Smart tires. They're easy on the grass and have great traction on the hills (only mowed when it was dry so far though). I'm curious to see how they do when it's wet too. I figured I'd go with the Turf Smart tires instead of the AT101 just to be safe (lower chance of damage) and knowing they might be limited for traction compared to the AT101.
@@ThePhotographyHobbyist I wonder how those Smart Turf Tores compare to the Armstrong Turf Tires that come on the Bobcat mowers. I am getting ready to buy a Bobcat and sont know if I need to upgrade tires when I buy it or try what's on there 1st. I have a good size hill I'll be mowing. 13-14 degree hill.
@@adamaustin3373 I've never user Armstrong tires but I just looked at Bobcat's web site and if those tires I see on the current model zero turns there are what you would end up with, they look pretty nice. I'd give them a try first.
Do you have the original tires you want to get rid of?
I actually already sold them (shortly after installing the tires in this video).
I have the 101 and I have to go very slow when I turn that way I don’t tear of the ground. Does this new tires tear of the ground when you turn fast?
Kim Wiltz Yes they do. I had the AT101 tires in the past and these tires in my video are even more aggressive in tight turns. You have to be careful especially in areas with only light grass or it will rip it up on turns. But...they’re great otherwise and good for the hills i have.
Hooked on Photography thanks for the info 👍
Hooked on Photography Thanks again for info 👍
You said zero turn mowers have less traction backing up hill than going forward, but it depends on the style of zero turn. If you have a front deck rather than mid deck your traction is much better backing uphill.
My walker will back up on a hill in reverse thst it will dpin out going forward
@@ronreagan2655 *that it will spin... That took way too long to figure out what you meant to type, but I did just wake up.