TARGET SHOOTING VS SELF DEFENSE TRAINING | What's the difference?
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- If you're carrying a gun for self defense, it's important to know the difference! Here, we'll show you what to do and what NOT to do at the range to train realistically. Make sure to leave a question in the comments for our upcoming Q&A with Mac!
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I've been telling my wife and daughter this for a long time; "You go to the shooting range to get familiar with your firearm, and nothing you do there is like a real-life scenario".
This channel is priceless for us noobs. You're both naturals at instructing and you teach in a way that's not intimidating or patronizing... Thank you!
I was involved in three on-duty shootings during my 30 year career w/my .38 revolver and all of your points are spot on. If you’re going to carry a gun for self defense get some training that teaches you how to FIGHT w/a gun as opposed to target shooting. Even though I retired in ‘97 I still shoot tactical drills w/my LCP or J Frame monthly and carry every day. My story, written by Mas Ayoob, was featured in a Fall 2016 edition of American Handgunner. Interestingly my LE range training was mostly bulls eye from 1968 forward and did not change much until after my 1974 gunfight w/three armed robbery suspects.
Ken? Did you talk about the other 2 incidents elsewhere?
I am a 68 year old male and I love your videos. I think you do a real good service to all gun enthusiasts whether you are young or old, male or female. I have taken a few concealed carry, defensive gun classes and I still learn a lot from your videos. I think having Mack on as a added technical advisor is great. He really knows his stuff. He has a real nice way of communicating with the audience as do you. Keep up with the videos and good luck.
I was so fortunate to take several of Mac's classes (with Stav assisting). It was the best training because, as this video demonstrates, it focused on the real life situation. When I started training, I figured I'd never be good enough in accuracy/recoil control. With a few classes under the belt, "good enough" took on a very different meaning. Thanks to Mac and Stav, "good enough" means I can quickly and mindfully respond, and do it effectively.
Thank you Stav for these presentations! They're like a refresher course. Hope to see you both again once we can.
This channel does a good job of being self defense oriented without the YT operator cosplay … I’m enjoying it, thanks.
Thanks Jeremy! We’re glad you like it :)
Great that your showing the difference and importance of target vs. defense training. I've been doing both for a few months and they are worlds apart! Every time I think there is nothing new to learn defensively, my instructor throws some new challenge at me. Thank you for your videos, your both great and fun to watch!
You guys nailed probably the MOST important aspect of all of us EDC shooters. Training Training Training, for REAL WORLD self defense scenarios, vs just standing upright at the indoor shooting range, with the comfortable air temp controlled environment, shooting at bad guy silhouette targets. Great video. I look forward to seeing the other continuations in this aspect that you both put out!
Love this! Nice. Went to the range alone twice now and got some instruction from them through a class and am taking my ccl shooting test on the 21st! All thanks to this channel because no one wanted to let me even buy a gun and especially not carry one( especially not my husband). Over this quarantine I bought my first pistol, located ammo, and took an online ccl course. I already carry anyway because I have 4 children that are with me at all times( including a 7 month old ). Thank you so much!!!!!!!
Y’all are my favorite, and I’ve learned a lot from your channel! Thanks to you, I have built the confidence to buy my own gun (in the state of California, yikes!) and go to the range on my own. My first solo range day after 100 rounds and a blister on my thumb, an older gentleman approached me and said “a girl and her gun is a beautiful thing”. That sparked so much joy within me and I give credit to you both. Thank you!
PS. Ever given thought to making vlogs?
I loved this video. It's a real wake-up call to many of us. I practice drawing and aiming many times a day around the house, but I never move laterally and, or drop to a knee. Getting old makes getting down and up harder, but I'll work on it. Rolling around on the ground is out of the question, Ha ha ha. Thanks so much for all your videos. Keep doing them.
I recommend keeping both eyes open, even while target shooting. It's a good habit to develop for when you need to shoot for defense. You'll have to figure out which is your dominant eye, and there are great vids on YT about that.
As an experienced martial artist and military man. Both tactical and stagnant train are effect. Stagnant training helps people know the technical part without the anxiety. Training in anxiety heightened position will not help someone control themself and be safe if your a beginner. Train often and join a club if possible to train for competition.
Love how you guys focus on guns from a pragmatic self defense perspective.
Mac, what's your favorite quick access safe for in the home and favorite safe for car or traveling (especially with kids around)?
Tons of good info. Too many people don't practice with the non dominant hand and that's a huge mistake. Be prepared for any circumstance. Great video and thank you both.
Seriously love both of you!! You have taught me so many things! I would love more information on concealed carry for a heavier women. I am an XL, and would love to comfortably carry on my person. I am working on losing weight, but in the interim I'd love to keep myself safe while out walking, etc. Thanks!!
Hi Stav and Mac. QA: I enjoyed your video on whole home set-up for safety (eg you stay in dark, put invader in light, etc). It was comprehensive and excellent. A specific question on that subject: Immediate vicinity hand gun home defense at night while bedroom sleeping. Place gun on nightstand? Under mattress? Take out of lock box? Chambered? Backup ammo near gun or away? Basically, In that around-the-bed setting, how to optimize and balance safety with readiness each night? Thank you both sincerely. ☮️
3 things: 1- LOVED seeing that 6" Python (beautiful). 2-I have a feeling if Stav tried shooting from a kneeling position at the range, she'd be shooting UNDER the table :-). 3-Great video as usual. I do permit to carry training here in Minnesota and I tell all my students to check out your channel. You two have a great channel. Keep up the good work.
Great video....So much useful practical information🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼...I’m fortunate to have a gun range on my 40 acres which allows me to practice,practice,practice...I still need to improve on using both eyes...It’s taking me awhile to get used to...Well at least have confidence in doing it..
This has become my favorite channel. Thank you both so much!
You're both so genuine in your videos...love it. Thank you for all the info.
I referred your site to my best friend , she was always reluctant to be around guns . She has now enrolled in a conceal carry class . Thanks for a great informative site .
I know you guys will get tired of this. The two of you are awesome! And I value your information more than you know. GREAT STUFF!
The bulk of my range time is spent changing mags as it's a quick way to clear jams. I randomly fill a handful of mags with 1, 2 or 3 rounds and combat reload without looking and keeping the sights on the target. Familiarity is key.
Looking at your reload is like looking at your feet when you dance.
Regular range shooting is step 1. Getting comfortable with the gun, learning how to use it, how to aim, how to clear malfunctions, etc. After that, you have to take self defense specific classes and do self defense training. So important.
As a experienced shooter I still learn different technique's from watching different people you guys do a great job ! You never stop learning.
I've been going to the range once a week for 3 months. I took a Beginning course on Saturday and I'm going to take a draw from the holster one and intermediate one next. Have been practicing dry shooting with the video you have about the draw. Very proud of myself, I fixed a malfunction all by myself and the instructor was very impressed
@Jacques Le Goudie Dont be a dick!!!
So glad to see you guys starting another series on this subject!
Skilled instruction without attitude!
Love you two.
Request for Mack, can you teach a little bit on how to learn point shooting
What I really love about shooting out at the local cinder pits is the freedom to do movement training. I'm able to practice shooting at the target while I'm on my way to cover behind my car and shooting at the target from there
Congrats to the winners. Thanks for the opportunity 😉
Spot on. I had a stovepipe while skills builder training this weekend and I cleared it and kept moving on my moving target and no one watching even noticed that I had and cleared a malfunction.
That was awesome guys I learned a lot from that video
Stav&Mac - I am excited for the opportunity to watch future videos on this subject. Target vs. Defensive Shooting is EXACTLY what folks who are going to carry or defend themselves need, realizing this only after I watched this video. Thank you. I’ll be looking for future videos.
I can not WAIT for a BB gun video to practice at home. The closest range to me doesn’t even allow to draw from my holster so to be able to practice at home for scenarios would be awesome! Like always this video was so awesome and informative.
Awesome video. You guys just get down to the basics, with no frill, only what is important. Great. Your direct approach to basic information is more valuable than 50 other video's on stance, grip, blablabla. Those are important, but not enough people talk real situations and what you need at that time.
I am looking forward to the basement training video because my gun range doesn't allow holster drawing and we can't have full mags walked through the building. My husband bought our boys glock air pistols that they go out back to shoot and adding self defense training for them would be amazing. Thank you guys!
I watch a lot of gun channels, this one is one of the best!!! Truth, logic and common sense.
Additional thoughts on this type of training . Perhaps on an outdoor range is to run around your car if close enough or run back and forth in a small area a couple times then straight to the shooting booth and shoot your weapon. Or indoors maybe stand back and do 5 or 10 jumping jacks to get your heart rate up then run over grab your weapon and try to shoot it at the target. it helps with the Adrenaline rush that happens in a gun shoot out situation. Try to hit the target after your heart is racing and your anxiety levels are high. Stress plays a big factor even in keeping your mind thinking about what you are doing, what just happened and how do you react to it. Just a thought. Nice video .
Thank you guys so much!!!!! I can't wait for the self defense practice video! This is empowering ❤️
You two do such a wonderful job! I am a female that is new to guns and shooting. Your videos have helped train me even more. I really appreciate your expertise and the information you share. Thank you so much
Hi from Florida! ☺️
My questions-
How did you both meet?
How to get over the fear of shooting at ranges when other people are around? I feel fine if it’s just me or the person I went with, but when other people are in the lanes around me, I get worried. (A combo of being paranoid that the stranger is crazy or accidents happening ) basically I don’t trust strangers with guns lol
You both are a pleasure to watch. Your videos show how passionate you are for safety and proper technic. I will definitely be recommending your channel. Thanks!
You guys turned me on to active self defense channel. You are right, it's a great learning experience
Same. I started following it from the last video they mentioned it. I love the two channels. I do also like Warrior Poet Society too.
As far as accuracy when you shoot long you'll automatically improve at short distance. If you shoot at 25 yards accurately you'll easily hit 5 yards. There is a major benefit to longer distances.
Under five minutes in on video and loving it. Could not agree more.
Thank you for your videos. Because of you I went to the gun range by myself today and did great. I felt calm and confident. Also thank you for your training on you need to go with an intention to work on something when you go to the range. This helped me too. Thank you.
Get out of the indoor bowling alley lane and find a great outdoors range where you can shoot IDPA. You will use concealment, learn cover, movement and be timed which adds stress. My range also has a tac house to learn room clearing, hostige situation, moving targets ect. After shooting IDPA an indoor range will only be used to sight in a new gun.You can shoot IDPA as what I call a gamer or use it just for your self defense training .I wear my everyday clothes, holster and gun. My regular training partner is a sergeant on DPD homicide div., I have also had the luxury of shooting with a couple of the swat officers, and those guys are phenomenal.
Join a club that shoots dynamic / IPSC. then, you get an idea of what shooting under stress is like (against the clock), plus drawing, reloading, tactical placement, moving... all safely and under close supervisation.
Suddenly, that heavy double action isn't noticed any more, and the reload away round your back where your left hand can't go loses you the match...
and, it's a lot of fun!
I think what you guys are putting together is amazing. During this time of our world and what is in right now people have panicked and went and bought weapons they get their concealed and they think they're a superstar. By you touching and telling with these videos is amazing streamly important I see that you guys are the only one that's doing it we look at the videos all the time thank you for the concern of gun carriers way2go you rock! and you being as a police officer thank you for your service that you do everything for us and make sure you go home every night to that beautiful lady God bless you both.
Virginia Citizens Defense League linked us to your video!
I already follow your channel, but I hope this gets you more views! Great job on the video!
To me this is one of the better channels on firearms on UA-cam you guys are doing an excellent job thank you
Great content. One thing to note...most indoor ranges don’t allow you to draw and and shoot from holster...so dry fire/hoster practice is essential. They also don’t let you rapid fire for the most part...so some of this work will need to be modified. Intrigued by your tac reload discussion...many shooters/instructors teach that the tac reload is a waste...my tac instructor says to shoot the gun empty, drop the mag and reload. This is great stuff, though...but realize that indoor ranges...at least every indoor range I’ve ever seen and even some outdoor ones, don’t allow drawing from holster.
Great callout on the airsoft training-builds invaluable muscle memory which helps to better manage crises situations and ultimately instills confidence in one's reaction under duress Enjoyed the video!!!
You are right. Most gun ranges will totally allow you to stand there and shoot between 25 ft and 200 yd. You cannot practice drawing you cannot practice anything that relates to self defense. The range I used to belong to Tacoma rifle and revolver is exactly that. It's a good place to get a feel for how the gun reacts when you pull the trigger and that's it. Self defense is what happens when some big nasty person gets within two or three feet of you and hopefully your gun comes out and completes the deal. Good video
I have seen Glock, Sig, S&W, Taurus and Beretta air soft guns. Great training tools
I'm here to learn how to best protect myself and my toddler. I definitely need to learn how to shoot one handed since it's very possible the tot will be on my hip.
I am so glad I found this channel! You are an inspiration to new and female shooters! Thanks, Stav and Mac!
Thank you both for this on going series!!
I need to find a decent range when ammo becomes available someday. Most ranges don't even allow draw from the holster.
That's not right. The whole point of practice is to be efficient and confident pulling and shooting. Life counts on it.
I’m far from a novice &, in fact, I practice a lot & pretty well employ most of your suggestions, but I want to say, this is an excellent basic instructional video on self-defense practice. Good job!
Would love to see videos with self defense training tips using your carry firearm (not a toy) from your carry holster using a laser dry fire round. I think that could be effective practice, especially since so many ranges prohibit drawing from concealment.
My local indoor range restricts the type and style of shooting. Drawing from the holster, movent etc.
Low ready position is the most they allow.
I try and compensate by means of dry fire at home using snap caps.
Learning more from your videos than most other ones. thank you so much
The best self defense focused video I have seen. Thank you for a reality-based presentation. I want more so I subscribed.
Out here in California, I have to go to the other side of the mountains to actually train gunfighting, you can't rapid fire anywhere in Cali proper.
Maybe a question for Q&A: Would love your input on dry fire training systems (itarget, mantis, laser bullets etc) with ammo prices increasing as well as being so hard to find. Would you recommend and if so which one for a beginner? Love your channel. Keep up the great work, it’s such a wonderful resource for a beginner.
Great advice... the only suggestion I would add is that it's more prudent to look your pistol into the holster when you're through with the "gunfight"... the threat is over at that point, and there's no reason to hurry the pistol into the holster blindly and chance something going wrong unnecessarily...
Good advice
I work at a LGS and range in TX and have been sending lots of ladies to your channel. Thanks for the very good content and a great resource away from the range for my clients.
You two are such a great team and always have great content. It's not all splashy, flashy like some out there. But that's what I love about it. Full of great info, but practical, too. Keep up the great work!
This is a very helpful video. I realized that static shooting at the range was not very realistic years ago. My husband and I each have a laser light system for home practice. We draw from our actual concealment holsters and belly bands and shoot a laser light to hit a 6 inch target. We do move a bit at home to get off the X also. Our local gun range does not allow us to draw from the holster or move away from the firing line.
Hey Stav!! Thank you for all your great videos. I just started training to become a NRA certified pistol instructor and recently got certified as a NRA range safety office. I just love seeing all the tips and information you and Mac share!
Yes!!!! Totally interested in the B.B. gun practice for home! Thank you in advance 🤗
Question for Mack/future video: how do you find a range/individual that will let/teach you to shoot self defense rather than target shooting? What to look for and how to judge whether they are a good option or "80's karate" pretenders
Try looking for Simunition Courses.
@@youngspectre5356 Good idea thanks
Find someone local! There's alot of help out there!
As a mother of 2 toddlers I carry to protect them and myself, however I am nervous for when the time ever came I would need to use my edc with my boys around. I already only carry on the side I could get to when holding one of them. What other drills could I do to be ready with my children around? (Love your videos sooo much! Fellow New Englander)
Google "Melody Lauer"
Hey good to see you Stav and Mac! This is useful as always, iron sharpens iron. Be vigilant and aware. Thanks.
Thank you Stav and Mac. This was very informative. My local range doesn’t allow even the beginner training moves you demonstrated. I will be checking into the air soft gun and will blast up my backyard training self defense moved. I love your channel. 😊
Excellent video Sav & Mac, super informative!
I'm excited to see the training with airsoft guns video. I never thought of using them for self-defense training.
Love your videos they help me a lot as new CCW 🥰
TRex Arms did a video on that and it blew away most of the gun community lol
I first trained with pellet guns using only hollow points, Ive never used BB guns and I never would, there's a big difference, little do people realize that.. I still keep them all, even though I own a live firearm heck you never know....
It’s a great raining tool for sure, I taught my children the rules of gun safety and range procedures using airsoft guns on a range I set up in our back yard.
Congratulations winners!!!!
I love the active self defense channel! Thank you for suggesting it!
Yes please do a video defensive shooting with air soft gun !!
I’m loving this video! I’m really hoping for a real training session with police training! You know time phases left and right handed re-load time phases!
If you train like your life depends on your survival ! I’m old school I keep speed loaders in my right pocket because that’s how I was trained! And I was taught to retrieve loose bullets in the right pocket and reload a revolver for emergency shooting!!! Please get this on the videos!!!!!!
Hey Stav in Mack
This is so true. I just came into an amazing opportunity to go train at Front sight here in my state. Im super excited its a 4 day class. I will be taking my learning to a whole new level. I will let you know how it goes.
Me shooting left handed. Ugh. A last resort my strength is not great. Lots of practice
Folks this is one of the most important and much needed messages to get out to your students. Keep up the good work and thank you for helping everyone to get real.
I'm so glad I stumbled across your channel. It's one of the best on UA-cam.
Only one local range will allow much more than the basics of marksmanship style training. 2-second rule between shots, no draw, no movement, etc., at most of the local gun ranges. The one open, unmonitored gun range will allow movement, quick shooting (double taps), and drawing. And multiple targets. Well, not really. Supposedly only one target, but I have a target holder and can put a second target up at a closer distance to have multiple targets at various disatances. Very nice.
Thank you for this excellent self defense advice.
I 'm a new CCH and i woild like you both to do a video on how to clean your pistol, how often and which products are created equally.
Watching in Jan 2022. New to the channel. Your guys' smiles are so wide and happy. You two are awesome. Real good stuff.
I'm not an expert but I am experienced (if you can consider having been in one SD shooting experienced). If you care about SD with a carry gun, then listen to what these guys are telling you in this video.
I believe the most import practice for me, with respect to my SD incident, turned out to be my up-close clear, draw, point and shoot. This was done with my carry with snap caps and also with my airsoft pistol. This practice was never done fast with live ammo in the gun.
I have to practice more ( especially from the conceal carry holster AND both eyes open). Now also going to the range with the pastor and his wife now. Sending this on to them. Thank you so much.
Good video keep up the good work 👍🏻 Mac here is a question for the Q&A. What is your favorite pistol, shotgun, rifle, PCC & wildcard. Choose one of each.
I always learn so much from y’all! Great tip about the BB gun!
My boy Daniel won the All Valley Karate Tournament using that technique. He's the best around and no one's ever gonna take him down.
Yay! Love to see you both!
Thanks Brittany! Hope you like the video :)
You guys do a great job. Thank you 💜
Thanks for another great informational video! Looking forward to the next one as always!
Thank you for this video. Always great information. That would be awesome to have a video with air soft/BB gun exercises.
I'm most confident with my 20 gauge Mossberg 500 - hard to carry 😏 but it's like a third arm. Just getting into handguns. Thanks all.
Stav and Mac thank you for your creative drills and suggestions for the range. It really helps maximize the time at the range!!