Will I Ever Be Able to Ride My New Horse?
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2024
- After dealing with allergies, an eye infection, colic, and lameness, things are definitely looking up for Black Jack. But he's still lame. I wonder if I'll ever get to ride him?
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❤You made the right decision in changing Black Jack's barn.
Thank you! Yes, he's at the Ritz Carlton for horses now, and he's visibly happier. And that makes me happy!
Consider taking lessons while you wait for Black Jack to heal. The better you are as a rider, the easier it will be for Black Jack to carry you comfortably. People don’t realize how sensitive a horse’s back is, and when riders aren’t centered with their horse, they are difficult to carry.
Agreed. I am getting set up with lessons at my new barn. :)
It's certainly good that Jack came into your care. He will have a good life with you. It might not be what you envisioned, but there is a meaning to everything. You will probably understand the picture as time goes by. It is a pleasure to follow you. Love horses but have no opportunities to be around them where I live. So I get to live out my dream through yours ❤
Awww! Thank you! Such a kind comment. ❤
When my horse was on stall rest I started doing target training with him. It was wonderful, it is full of enrichment and helps the bond. Look up videos like beginning target training or horse or clicker training. It really gets the horse thinking. Once you both get the hang of it, the possibilities are endless.
Oh yes! What a wonderful idea! I’ve done this with my Doberman, but never thought to do it with Black Jack. Thank you for the great suggestion!
Your story is an important one about making sure horses drink enough water both summer and winter when extreme weather interferes with thirst (people too). Water with small amounts of molasses can encourage horses to drink (SMALL AMOUNTS). Glad Black Jack is on the road to recovering. As for his sensitive hooves, don’t give up on his potential to go barefoot. It does take some time for the hooves to acclimate to barefoot after long periods with shoes. Most important is that no sole should be removed unless it is already sloughing. Farriers often think they are helping by removing sole, but that does help when transitioning to barefoot.
@@slunt3123 Thank you! Per our vet, we tried adding Gatorade in the water, but he hated it. I like super clean water, which I was happy to give him. Maybe someday we can get him barefoot. Right now he’s acclimating to no pads.
You sharing everything helps others with buying or owning a horse. We appreciate you being candid.
Those pads are a Red Flag a horse has hoof issues.
Some people buy companion horses that they never ride.
There’s so much more to horses than riding. Show how you’re bonding with him. Grooming him. Show how you’re learning about feed, different hay, alph alpha, supplements, what grass is best for grazing so you don’t create more issues for his hooves. Do you want him shoes? Would you prefer him barefoot? What’s best for him? How do you feel about bitless riding? I’m wanting to return to owning horses again after 25 years with no horses. Things are so different now. So much better. People aren’t just taking what someone tells them for fact . They’re learning, educating themselves on all areas, without even riding yet. It sounds like you’re starting from scratch. Look what you’ve already been through. I’ll watch as learn because there’s so much more like training styles and saddle fitting, and you can really show how much work it is and how rewarding it is.
@@Frecklesunkissed Thank you for such a helpful comment!
I continue to think you are doing absolutely awesome with Blackjack and remember they’re always reasons for things happening when they do and so perhaps the whole reason this happened is so that you would save Blackjack and find your other horse and then you’d have a companion horse in Blackjack and the new horse would have a buddy… so who knows at this point what the plan is….Patience is definitely a virtue but perhaps your next horse is just not available yet and that is why you’re going through what you’re going through with Blackjack and saving him at the same time. 🤔 You are doing great…continue to hang in there.
Thanks for sharing your story. I am sort of in the same situation. I bought a very well trained, very sweet gelding last fall. We were just starting out on our riding journey together after months of searching for fitting tack. After a few weeks of light riding, he showed gait issues during a groundwork lesson and a vet assessment revealed chronic Lyme and EPM. I'm not sure when he was infected but he's getting the meds and time he needs to recover. His prognosis is good and I am trying to keep a positive attitude. Good luck with Blackjack!
My 92 year old mother is in assisted living with the widow of the veterinarian that figured out EPM. She sits at the table with her.
I used to have horses as a youth and I cared for an unrideable OFF track mare a decade ago. I learned from "Baileys" to have a wonderful relationship without riding. They are valuable friends.
Oh no! So sorry about the EPM and Lyme. Glad you figured that out so you could get the right meds going. Good luck to your boy!!
@@onion6foot for sure. If he ends up as a pasture pet, he will not be loved any less. Realistically, I bought him to ride but if he never returns to riding shape he'll be cared for and pampered in retirement.
@@HorseTaleswithBlackJack thank you. I feel the same way you do with Blackjack. We want the best life possible for them.
I’m so so so happy for you and Blackjack!!! I’m praying that things go well for both of you!
Sounds like you landed in a good place, the new barn and experienced caring horse people. Best of luck on your new adventure.
Thank you! I appreciate that!
I just subscribed
I’m a life long horse lover and I applaud your commitment to BlackJack. Welcome to the world of horses A.K.A whatever can happen will happen. Lol
Sending Prayers that he heals and doesn’t have any discomfort.
Thank you for subscribing! The world of horses is a wild ride for sure! lol
If he didn't limp with the pads on, I'd put them back on or use a round horse shoe. He is beautiful, you are awesome
We tried putting them back on, but he stayed lame. We've since found out he has an old injury, and we're trying to get that to heal. He had injections and is on stall/pasture rest.
You absolutely made the right decision to move barns!!!!!
@@anneflynn9614 Agreed! He’s so much happier now!
Patience is key, I know the time seems to drag when you are waiting for them to heal but during that time continue with your bonding. Even just grooming and hand grazing does wonders to let him know he can trust you. Your feed just came up today and I look forward to hearing more!
@@jessicatindall7315 That’s exactly what I’ve been doing! I’m so glad you found my channel!
Thank you for sharing and for not giving up on your handsome Black Jack. He is so blessed to have you. I am like you, older and want to get my first time horse someday. The slaughter pipeline is so scary and it truly breaks my heart. I wish it would stop. I am enjoying your videos about Black Jack.
@@soniavassallo2558 Thank you! ❤️
@@soniavassallo2558 I forgot to mention that I agree with the slaughter pipeline. So scary, and I will never allow that to happen to my beautiful boy.
I've had horses for over 40 years, and I recently lost my old mare, who passed at 30. I owned her for 28 years I wouldn't buy another horse without out a 5 stage vetting and x rays as buying horses is mine field but I live in the UK, my mare had a superficial flexor tendon injury and came back into work 6 months later walking in hand will help as it will help strengthen the fibrils in the tendon, hosing the leg for 10 min twice a day will help the inflammation which is the main thing to get sorted, your horse may have been given bute to hide the lameness when you rode him before you bought him which can often happen if your inexperienced buying horse's ,it's something you wouldn't be aware of. the problem with tendon, ligament and joint injuries is they can often flair up and can be expensive to sort, I have a friend who had to retire her showjumper despite spending £10,000 on treatment this included stem cell transfer.
Yeah, the treatment is outrageously expensive for sure…
So glad you moved barns - this one looks to have decent vets/ farrier and the horses are looked after properly 😊
He may be a pasture pet, but that's not bad.
While he's recuperating, you could work on your own skills. Learn to lunge properly, take riding lessons, watch how other horses are groomed.
Also, liberty work for Black Jack and tricks!
Jesse Drent on YT is fab for tricks. Macho, Shetland pony stallion and Gaio, ex spanish bullfighter horse. He's an incredible horseman who teaches his horses with kindness and patience 😊
Black Horses Friesian have free reigning of their horses - big black dogs that roam around the yard 😄
@@jaysmith8199 Thank you for those suggestions!!
Blackjack's ankle/wrist is called the pastern. I'm hoping he's going to recover completely. You might get him some toys for his stall.
Toys are a great idea! Thank you!
@HorseTaleswithBlackJack if you search UA-cam for 'horse with rubber chicken' there are some pretty funny videos of horses enjoying the heck out of rubber chicken 🐔 toys
One step at a time of course and the waiting is the hardest part in decision making. In the mean time there are options to consider and one of those is researching in supplements for horses with muscle and joint injuries and there are also specific horse feed that focus on specific aspects of the horse's health, and one of those aspects being joint and tissue repair. Those who have used it on their horses say they seen a significant difference over the course of time , roughly 3 months to 6 months of the horse consuming as directed. That could offer your horse better results. If you do find a feed and supplement that works wonders on your horse , you might be able to have the company brand be a sponsor for your yt that would help cover the funds for your horse's medical procedures.
Thank you! I do need to research the supplements and feed. That's a great idea. I'd looked into supplements right after I purchased him, but I was really overwhelmed. So many choices! But I'll get on that this weekend!
I hope he comes right for you; I haven’t ridden for years, but as a teenager, I did know of horses with sporadic lameness from old injuries in the stables I rode at. It’s certainly possible that is Black Jack’s case, too.
@@ShintogaDeathAngel That’s encouraging! Thank you for sharing that!!
I am sorry that this is happening to you and I understand that having a non-ridden equine sounds daunting, but there's so much possibilities! You can try liberty work (wich can be from a simple walk around me in a circle to difficult dressage movements), clicker training, trick training, walks not only around property, but in nature too and simply learning to just hang out and enjoy the time with your horse. My mare can't be ridden at the moment since she isn't trained, is young and has a foal by her side, we do a lot of liberty work with positive reinforcement/clicker training and both of us LOVE IT! While it would be a bummer if she couldn't ever be ridden, I've learnt to enjoy time on the ground too. Hopefully you can find that spark too!
I love libery training! And I am having more fun than I imagined!
Thank you! Yes, someone suggested clicker training and touch training yesterday, and I love the idea! I think Black Jack would respond really well, so I'm definitely going to give it a try! And I love your suggestion of taking him for a walk out in nature. That sounds lovely!
@@HorseTaleswithBlackJack I'm sure both of you could have a great time, I remembered another thing, obsticle course, just finding random items your horse could walk on/through/over or interact with them in some way, can also be really fun. I'm wishing you both many adventures together!
@@the_ethical_horse_girl I love this idea! I saw this on a few of the channels I watch, and it looks like so much fun!
I knew it would work out and you guys are a good team ! I’m so happy BJ has you !! Thank you so much for being such a great horse mom !!! Your awesome !!! ❤️💯🐴
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Your husband sounds amazing!! Does he have a brother ? Lol. Just kidding. But I’m so glad your husband is so supportive and things are going to really work out now matter what the outcome !!!!
Awwww! Thank you!
You got a crash course in horse care with Black Jack. My friend's horse had the same injury and stayed sound with periodic injections.
This is encouraging! That's what I'm hoping!
Isn't it funny how things work out! I am so happy for both of you! You are really learning a lot quickly! He is beautiful! I just love hearing about whatever....always a lesson in everything. Thanks for sharing!
@@brendabijak7171 Thank you! I’m really trying to stay in the learning mindset with all of this.
You seem like such a nice person and I'm sorry that this happened to you. Unfortunately, it is likely that the sellers were aware of his issues. He is very pretty and it's such a shame. It's common for people to mask lameness by injecting horses with bute-lame race horses will run on it (very dangerous of course). I'm curious about the basis for the PPE vet's "neutral" evaluation. But moving ahead, changing barns was a great decision+ so was creating this YT channel as you are getting some good advice in the comments. I hope that Black Jack can recover enough for light riding and wish you both all the best. He is fortunate to have you!
Thank you for your kind comments! The vet was neutral because Black Jack had some soreness in his back fetlocks; without a complete lameness workup, he didn't want to give him anything but a neutral evaluation. Obviously, next time I will walk away from a horse with this type of issue. My mistake was falling in love with him before I had the PPE done.
I am LOVING the comments I've been getting! So much helpful information!!!
Agreed. How could a vet advise purchasing a horse with any sign of lameness. Neutral?
@@audreywineland1426 I don’t think he actually advised. I may have worded that not quite accurately. He rated Black Jack as neutral for my intended use for him… He did not give me advise on what to do. Kinda wish he had done so, but I guess that’s not necessarily what the PPE is for.
Hey new to your Chanel and only watched your black jack story. Firstly your husband is a saint 😊. Second. Welcome to owning horses. I have a black jack in my paddock but he is red nut😅. No seriously he is beautiful Clancy. Will be with me forever. Hang in there you have the right attitude. Tracey (Australia)
Thank you, Tracey! My husband is a great man; I'm very lucky. Say "hi" to your Black Jack for me! :)
Black Jack was the name of my childhood pony, I got a 7 years old. 😭. Thank you for sharing
@@mcanqb Do you know how they picked his name? My Black Jack is named after Black Beauty and also the Black Jack who was a military funeral horse.
I hope for both of you that he can make a recovery, it seems like you’d be a great match to go for rides and enjoy each other’s company 🤞🤞 one thing that occurred to me with regard to his old injury and your test ride, is that he may have been on pain meds. I don’t know the seller, of course he may have been fine - I know that some sellers will sedate a spirited horse to make it easier to handle, same thing can of course apply to pain… either way, you have each other now and deserve a good outcome!
Thank you! I do wonder if he was on pain meds...hard telling!
As a riding instructor who is now 65 yrs old….my advice would be to not buy another horse yet. Spend time having lessons. What you need from a horse now will probably be much different in a years time. You are a beginner now…but who knows in a years time you may want to be doing a bit more and your beginner horse may not be wanting to do the things that you are then enjoying.
Spend time learning and riding different horses…gain knowledge.
You are such a lovely person deciding to keep Black Jack….that’s a great decision. It’s lovely that you feel responsible for making sure he has a happy safe life. But as you do more with horses you may find that what you want changes…. So you could end up with a field of much loved horses that you have progressed from.
I would say wait minimum a year before getting your next horse. Spend time learning and as you improve you will find out what you want from your next horse.👍X
This is very solid advice. Thank you!
I’ve owned horses for 50 years and I totally agree with this advice.
Wishing you the best!
I totally understand your frustrations! Look into April Love, and there is another body worker (I forgot his name) that address all types of body work I was able to do on my horse as a first time horse person.
Thank you! I will look into her!
You’re a great horse mom. He’s probably had it a very long time and been in pain a very long time. He’s probably gonna need injections. You got sold a bill of goods but he’s a lovely horse and knowing you just want to walk trot him is lovely, I bet you can get him good! Did you ever get any answers as to how often he was ridden before you? He may make a lovely trail horse. I would bet you can at the very least do that. Have you said how much you paid for him? A reason he doesn’t run around his pasture is because his foot probably hurt. Once he feels better I bet you see him run around a lot more. Don’t get scammed on the second horse because you def did on the first. He’s so lucky you got him and a calm sweet horse is worth a million bucks so I bet you get him sound enough for what you want to do! Then your husband can ride him.
I’m sure you’re right about why he’s not running around out in the pasture. He was ridden a couple times a week as a lesson horse, mostly kids and young teens I think. I paid WAY TOO MUCH,but that’s water under the bridge at this point. I won’t get scammed a second time, that’s for darned sure.
He got injections a few weeks ago, and we’ll be doing another lameness exam I August to see if there’s any improvement. I’m totally willing to do regular injections if necessary!
I am enjoying your journey ! It can only get better
Glad you enjoy it! I think it will get better! I just have to be patient.
I know of two different people (one in the UK and one in Michigan) with three horses, all of whom will never be ridden after taking these horses to vet after vet. Both people finally took their horses to a university veterinary school, where they received imaging that showed permanent damage to the soft tissue. None of them will ever be ridden. One of them was in such pain that after a year of treatments, he had to be euthanized. The second horse (Belle) will eventually have to be destroyed, as well as the third horse in the UK, which was a home bred (Ari), who apparently injured himself in the pasture and since he had never been ridden, the injury went undiscovered. It was not found until he went under saddle and began training for jumping. I would recommend taking your horse to a university vet school. For their stories see Free Spirit Equestrian and Elphick Event Ponies.
That wasn’t necessarily encouraging! 😉 But yeah, I get it. These injuries suck. I love Free Spirit Equestrian; in fact, I bought one of her beautiful bitless bridles.
@@HorseTaleswithBlackJack I don't think I was necessarily clear and that's my fault. What I meant is that is best to take the horse to a university veterinary department and get a definitive answer about the horse. Because you can dump money into endless rounds of vet visits without being sure of what is wrong. A lot more than $2,500. I think Shae from Free Spirit Equestrian spent tens of thousands of dollars in care for the first horse that she had with that kind of injury. At no time was she told that the injury could result in having the horse put down. This went on for a year, until she finally decided to take the horse to Ohio State University's College of Veterinary Science and by that time, she could not save the horse. Her second horse, also bought at auction, was Belle and this time after one or two vet visits she took it straight to Ohio State. Belle right now is staying at a neighbor's farm until Essie and she adjust to the weaning of the filly. Meg Elphick had Ari trained to ride and then he was put out to pasture for the winter. Several months ago, she began training him for eventing and noticed right away that Ari seemed to be in pain. She took him to a University Veterinary Science Department right away, where he was diagnosed. They have decided to keep Ari for as long as possible as long as he isn't in an extreme amount of pain. At the moment he is babysitting 2 foals that were born last year and the Elphicks plan to keep him as long as they can.
I'm thinking that if you were to talk to the Clever Cowgirl who has a You Tube channel is pretty much an expert for a slow and steady reabilitiation process with horses.
I love her channel!
I may have missed it but was wondering if Blackjack's coffin bone is in a good position? It is often overlooked unless you xray for it.
Yup, his x-rays actually looked great. The vet needed the ultrasound to find the injury.
Or maybe the seller injected him prior to your buying him. Happens all the time. Next time get a thorough vet check before you purchase a horse for riding pleasure. Sounds like you need to know a good bit more about horses before buying more animals.
I had a PPE done. Black Jack wasn’t lame at the time on the front, so we had no way of knowing. While I say I know “nothing,” I do know how to get appropriate care. My mistake was trusting the barn owner who sold him to me.
@@HorseTaleswithBlackJack I agree. Since the recent vet evaluation showed it was an old injury, I would suggest the seller knew full well about Black Jack's condition. I am so sorry this happened to you.
@@ferngarner1 yup. That could very well be. It’s hard for me as a generally trusting person to accept this, but I think it’s true. Makes me sad.
@@HorseTaleswithBlackJack That's the thing about having horses. They get hurt so easily, they are expensive in so many ways, and we expect more from them than a house pet. I sincerely hope you are able to attain your dream of having horses, riding them and enjoying the entire experience. It is a truly wonderful thing to do. There is nothing better.
@HorseTaleswithBlackJack ohhhh noooooo .....your story is standard. Never buy a horse from a barn owner especially a barn with water conditions you showed....nasty waters is a massive reg flag for everything. I am so sorry you fell into that, that horse us lucky he found you otherwise he would have ended up dropped at an auction
You lack confidence in yourself, there was no one there to help you lunge your horse when this is something you could have done yourself. There are so many YT channels that can teach you the basics like Pat and Deb Putnam, Buck Brannaman, Painted Desert Ranch.
I'm working on my confidence! I had tried to lunge him, unsuccessfully, before. He simply didn't want to move. He just stood there and blinked at me, and then tried to get me to give him scratches. I had a couple other people with a lot of horse experience try to lunge him as well, and he wouldn't do it. He acted like he didn't know what we wanted him to do, so we kind of figured he was never taught (which I've heard happens with cow horses). However, when we took him to the lameness vet, he lunged beautifully! So I don't know what's up with that, but as soon as we're clear to move him faster than a walk, I'm going to get it worked out.
And thank you for the UA-cam recommendations! Always looking for great horse people to follow!
@@HorseTaleswithBlackJack One thing I do with my dogs when I first get them is run them through basic obedience not to see what they know but to see what they don't know, (but I have a horse you're asking yourself) I would recommend restarting your horse not only to see where he's at but just as important so you will learn groundwork basics from the beginning.
I would stick to instructional videos, Pat Puckett is amazing, I'll list more later.
The Clever Cowgirl channel is an intelligent horse woman, some of her horses have or has had soundness issues. CC is also extremely experienced, science minded and a self sufficient woman.
Give him a whole year before riding him again, get to the bottom of what happening with lameness. Pleae can you look at us, its strange you constantly looking at the right
I’m still trying to figure all the videoing out, so I’d appreciate some grace.
@@HorseTaleswithBlackJack hmm just stop looking at yourself! look into camera!