Will Utah DOMINATE the Big 12 from Day One? | Big 12 Football
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- In this college football podcast about the Utah Utes, Couz will talk about the hype surrounding Kyle Whittingham's Utes as they prepare to play their first season of Big 12 football in 2024. Couz will give an example of the media narrative surrounding Utah from Joel Klatt, as well as the narrative from fans. He will show data that proves why other Big 12 teams may also have a legit chance to claim the title of kings of the Big 12. He will give his opinion on which team, if any, will make that claim.
As the Pac-12's four corner schools of Utah, Colorado, Arizona and Arizona State prepare to officially join the Big 12 Conference for the 2024 college football season, the preseason polls and narratives have already begun. With the combination of Kyle Whittingham's coaching and the sustained success of the Utah program, many across the country expect that success to continue in the Big 12 and for the Utes to be the dominant program. Couz is here to say, "not so fast my friend," as he gives reasons as to why other teams in the Big 12 - like Oklahoma State, Kansas State, TCU, and others - are being overlooked. #big12football #utahutes #utahfootball
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College football Dominance in this day and age is extremely difficult. Utah will be highly competitive in B12 yearly.
Colorado beating Utah lol
There are a lot of reasons why Utah is considered a favorite. Let’s first talk about depth. When Utah first joined the Pac12, they did well in Sept-Oct. But, by Nov they were relying heavily on their 2nd and 3rd string players. The difference between a P5 and G5 school was the talent level of the “next man up”. It takes a few years to build that initial depth. So the examples from the expansion B12 teams isn’t applicable.
Second, Utah plays a style of football that travels well. They control the clock with a strong run game to preserve the defense. It’s usually good for 7-8 games a year. When you add an experienced QB (Rising), TR Kuithie, and WR Singer, they are good for 1-2 additional wins.
Finally their schedule holds up nicely, with OSU and AZ in Sept and no KSU. The hard game (outside of those 2) will be the UCF game as they will have to travel to Florida at the end of November.
No one is saying that another team can’t with the B12. But if you look at consistency and how the team is built, Utah deserves to be in the conversation.
Good comment.
As a Utah fan let’s just see how it plays out. Too many good teams including WV that will have a say this year. The only guarantee is nothing will be given in the B12 to any team and everything will be earned. I’m excited for this new experience in the B12. Good luck WV would be cool if we both make it to the B12 championship this year. Nothing but respect. One of my all time favorite college players was Pat White on those Rich Rod teams. Go Utes!
Utah’s best chance of winning the conference is this year. I think teams like TCU, UCF, KSU, and OSU are every bit the program as Utah and I would argue TCU and UCF are better positioned to be better moving forward, they recruit better and are located in better locations.
Most Utah fans know this isn’t going to be easy. We know first hand that TCU is legit and Ok St, KState, UA and KU football are/could be just as good as we are. We’ll see how it shakes out, will be fun.
It definitely will.
Once again you have shown that you are one of the better investigators in college UA-cam content. You consistently do your homework and obviously are not one of these guys who simply throws together meaningless content to get clicks. I congratulate you and, if I weren't disabled and unable to monetarily support your channel, I would certainly be among your biggest fans. Well done, Couz. Keep on keeping on.
Thank you! That means a ton. You’ve been a long time supporter.
What has people very confident for this year is Utah has the most talent their program has ever had on offense, and by a large margin. With the hype that they have been given by Vegas to journalist they will be getting everyones best punch. It's going to be a grind. I haven't done a deep dive into b12 opponents so it's hard to tell. The schedule does set up nicely
As a utah fan we know we wont dominate every year... even if the pac 12 stayed together we would say that we will make the playoff this year. The experience that utah has Its boom or bust for utah. I know when rising and kuithe graduate that we will step back and be more realistic.
No one in XII will have the skill players that Oregon and U$C had every year. Utah more than held their own against this elite talent.
It’s not just about the skill players. Games are won up front.
As an Utah fan, I wish we played all of the old big 12 teams the first year…..and not Colorado, ASU, UCF, or Houston. They did us a injustice!
I noticed that. Maybe there will be more of the Irate 8 on the schedule in 2025.
I hate to say this but I think Brett Yormark thinks Utah has a lot of potential to get in the CFB playoffs this season and that might be the reason why he did what he did it’s just sad to think that……
Go Utes! Big12 in for a surprise. 😮
Couz, I generally like you but you are very wrong on this matter one. Have you heard our coach, players, or major backers of the Utah program say what you said. Your info comes from the press. “Steam Roll the Big 12”? Do you really think that playing almost all new teams in new stadiums and longer travel times makes for a cakewalk? Do we think we have a good team? Yes Do we hope we win every game we play? Yes what else would you think we should think? We have respect for every team in this conference. I’m not sure you and others respect us. This is getting old and we haven’t even joined the conference yet.
Well, rfrmac, I think I specifically said it was fans and some in the media and not staff or the team that was overlooking the Big 12. Also, since releasing these last two Ute videos I’ve seen a lot of respectful comments from Ute fans which has made me second guess my feelings toward Utah fans.
Ute fan here. Unfortunately the loud minority has given some of us a bad rap. If healthy, I do believe that Utah will compete for the XII title this year, but they aren't going to "wipe the floor" with other teams. Utah has struggled on the road the last several years & they haven't played well in raucous environments that are found in the Big 12. Utah's last big road win was against Washington in 2019. OSU & UCF on the road concern me. Colorado in Boulder could potentially be tough as well. Before you laugh at that, realize that they're a rival & will have that game circled. Utah has an incredible home field advantage at RES, but TCU will likely be a tough game as well. Looking past this year, Utah's team is senior-laden & will need to reload for next year. They have a ton of great young talent, but so do a lot of other Big 12 teams.
I appreciate the comment
Utah will dominate the new-look Big XII. They have been one of the best, if not the best, program in the Pac-12 over the last few years. The only thing they will have to cope with is travel. The Big XII is spread all over the place and most teams in the conference will have to do much traveling.
Utah fan here. We seemed to have completely stopped prioritizing bowl games the last 5 full seasons. We went from being 10-0 in our last 10 to 0-5 in our last 5. The last 3 we had backup qb either play the whole game, or come in after rising got injured.
The reason Utah should win the big 12 this year is the schedule. It's probably the easiest p3 schedule in the country. We will likely make it to the championship and have one of the Kansas teams, or a rematch against OSU. There's a possibility of WVU getting in as well. We know the league is deep. We got humbled our first few years in the PAC 12. But we went from having the 5th or 6th most talented roster in the league, and competing for championships. To having the 2nd most talented roster in the league when we moved to the big 12.
I hope we stay in the big 12. I try not to be one of the unrealistic, arrogant, annoying fans that you see on X. But it's hard to not objectively say Utah isn't favored to win the league. I predict 1 or 2 losses still.
Utah is an extremely tough place to play. Many in the league were impressed with BYU and how loud and passionate they are, and they certainly can be. But Utah has sold out 83 in a row, and have a home record of 30-2 in their last 32 games at home (not counting COVID). It's a really tough environment to play in. Ask the Florida fans who came to town last year. They were pretty surprised that our "little" stadium was rocking the way it does
I can't wait to go see Utah play in WVU, Iowa State, Kansas, etc. It's honestly exciting being in a league where more than 2 teams sell out their stadiums. I don't want to play in empty stadiums in Berkely or UCLA any more. It's time to play where people love the game as much as we do. I hope to god we don't go to the ACC. Jumping onto a sinking ship just a year after getting pulled onto a life raft after the Pac 12 sank themselves just seems like a bad bet.
They should sell out that stadium, it's tiny.
@@aisaxonawiat6484 yeah. 53,500 is pretty tiny
@@Blasthole .... announced is about 45,000 typically and I don't think you're getting that because there are still empty seats.
@@aisaxonawiat6484 it was renovated in 2020 and holds 51,444 in seats plus 2k standing room. There's no empty seats. I've had season tickets for 30 years. There's a season ticket waiting list with 5-10 thousand as well. The stadium isn't always full at kickoff, but fills up by the second quarter
Pac12 had a really great culture of Back the Pac. We would root for the conference to do well. Now that Utah is in the Big12, seeems like this conference is determined to hate. I am looking forward to some great games. Big 12 has produced excellent football for years. I do think Texas Tech treated Mike Leach like crap. TCU did Gary Patterson dirty. I have always liked Coach Gundy. The Kansas Schools look formidable. There is a lot to like about the Big 12. Painting Utah as a villain is a disservice to the upcoming season. I wish everyone a great season this upcoming year. For one program in Provo, that might constitute a 5-7 record, but hey, be the best 5-7 program you can be.
Hey Couz.. Utah fan here ... I'm on the same page as you... Do I think we will be good this year? Yes! Do I think we are going to just dominate everyone else in the Big12? No! I'm of the mindset to wait and see. Changing conferences and playing new teams we don't have history with is going to be a challenge in itself. Let's wait and see. Go Utes! #big12proud
Wasn’t it you that said Utah was a mtn team not to long ago? The fact that they lead the way statistically even if it’s only minor is a testament to the fact that they’re a powerful program. Stepped up a level and immediately competed better 🤣recruits are probably only getting better as well
What does being a mtn team have to do with anything? Is that a typo?
@@CouzsCornerSports well the stats you pulled up were only for the last 15 or so years correct?? Well Utah joined the Power 5 around that time roughly. It’s crazy to me that statistically Utah is ahead of everybody especially when they were at a disadvantage for ten of those years because of things like funding, recruiting, etc…
@@stoney2271 it was from the last decade. But point taken. Utah transitioned well to the P5. TCU did too back when they moved up from the MWC.
@@stoney2271 that’s a fair point.
I was thinking the same thing. I bet this would be pretty lopsided if you go five years back excluding the Covid year. This also doesn't take into account how much deeper the PAC12 was over the Big12.
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Utah should be the best team in the league this year. The fans aren’t saying we’re going to dog walk every team every week and win by 21+ every week. But Utah SHOULD win 10-12 games based on their performance recently compared to the rest of the conference. There are 3-4 very losable games on the schedule.
As a Ute fan. no Ute fans actually believe that Utah is going to come in and just run the conference. Anyone says that, they are trolling. We are a good program but we lose games and we are not talented enough to sleep walk through any game.
Now, that said, Utah should come in and should consistently compete at the top of the conference, given their recent history. Utah's consistency is not a bad thing and the BIG12, I am sure, is hoping that Utah remains consistent. It is a good thing for the conference.
Well said. I, too, expect Utah to be one of the better teams in the league.
I hate playing the injury card, but in the 2 Rose Bowls, we were playing with 2nd stringers and still almost beat OU. Utah's going to do just fine in the Big12 - so excited for this season.. STAY HEALTHY... PLEASE!!!!!!
The PAC12 had parity. It killed them. USC, UCLA, Arizona, Utah, Oregon, Washington, etc.
Cam Rising beat them all back 2 back seasons.
It is reasonable to wonder who in the BIG12 can beat Utah without Oklahoma(Texas is always overrated).
If OSU or Kansas State or whoever does it good for them but... it is only reasonable to assume that 2024 UTAH will be freight train of a team.
Get your panties out of a bunch
1) I don’t wear panties, Nancy. 2) you obviously didn’t listen to what I said. I meant that Utah isn’t going to run the league long term.
Utah Returning alot talent this year so thats why we are super confident about being success early in the big 12 this year but theres alot of unknowns after Rising and Kuthie leave so 2025 will be interesting but knowing Whittingham we will be super competitive
Rising and Kuithe are still there aren’t they? I know Rising is.
I remember after WVU put 70 on Clemson; and had quite a bit returning in 2012, that first year in the Big 12 was rough. Utah needs to realize from top to bottom, the Big 12 is serious about winning football games.
Will UU be good; yes. But, it’s a lot harder conference schedule than the Pac-12.
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This is funny, BIG 12 fans why are you all fixated on Utah? Has the Utah coaching staff, administration or players ever said anything about stream rolling the Big 12? No they haven't. You're all angry at Utah for media picking them to win the conference lol. You blame Utah for positive remarks by the media, BIG12 fans are sure insecure but its all good. Stay mad, hate on us, disrespect Utah, poo poo the PAC and let paranoia rule your emotions.....Utah loves it😂
@ericacottle3507 You must not consume very much Big 12 content to not understand why people are already fed up with the Utes fan base. Haven't taken a single snap in the league but act like every other school in the conference is beneath them and that they just have to settle for dominating the Big 12 until they get a P2 invite. They even go as far as to say the disrespectful comments made about the Big 12 for months now are secretly BYU fans in disguise, trying to ruin Utah's reputation. Objectively view your fanbase then maybe you will understand why the other Big 12 schools seem to have their feathers ruffled about the Utes.
@@ericacottle3507 it’s I don’t believe the hype until UU gets a full season in.
Are they going to be good, sure. Contender for the Big 12 championship game, yes.
But as someone that saw a heavy preseason favorite WVU in 2012; and was ranked 5th in week 5 that season, it’s a very deep conference.
@@Goeers206our fan base? You're hearing maybe 1% of our fan base running their mouths and you think that's how Utah feels? Fine believe what you want lol......grow up BIG12 fans, stop being so easily triggered 🙄
OSU has Utah at home as the conference opener. OSU is Utah’s hardest game until the conference title game. OSU has a very hard run after Utah, KSU, WVU, BYU, BU, ASU, TCU, TT, CU. So basically Utah can lose the hardest game against OSU and still make the title game because OSU has a tougher schedule and is likely to drop at least 1 of the first 3 conference games plus at least one of the last 2 games. As you said, Utah schedule is very favorable for a glorious outcome. OSU is the only hard game and it won’t keep them out of the championship game if they lose. Utah should win but not because they are so so good, because they have a very favorable schedule to reach the title game.
But OSU, my team, has a chance to be in the title game too. I’m not crowning Utah till they win the darn thing.
Good points. I'm looking forward to the game in Stillwater as are many Ute fans on Ute media channels. I think OSU needs to do better with their defense. Last year y'alls defense was rated at 125th, and y'all still made it to the championship game. You must have a great offense. OSU has a tougher schedule too. It will be an awesome game I think. Hope OSU has a great season.
That's how Alabama and Georgia do it every year. Arizona will be no cake walk.
They are very good.
Yea they are.
Utah is a great team and on a regular owned Oregon and UsC on a regular basis.
Hands down pac 12 king but at the end of the day its a different conference and everyone talks but you gotta show out .
Big 12 is going to fun to watch this year and all the media talk only brings more stock and viewership for the Big 12 !
Win win !!
UTAH is 11-14 vs USC/Oregon since joining, very good, but I'd stop short of owning
Last time Utah QB played a full season they beat the snot out of Oregon twice in the same season and Oregon opened up with a win at Ohio St I Believe .
Live in Oregon and remember Oregon fans being all butt sore about it .
@@MichaelSmith-xb5cpyes but Utah is 7-4 vs USC since 2014 and 4-4 vs Oregon since 2014. It took Utah 3 years to adjust the only team Utah struggled with a lot was Washington.
@brentw0681 No one owns the (former) PAC without owning the Colesium, and ownership only begins with 5 wins in your last 10 SCHEDULED games there...Utah doesn't have 5, Notre Dame has only 3, and even that's not great. Every conference needs to be rated by the frequency of wins in the gatekeepers' homes. IN addition, Utah has an average to below average frequency rate of scheduled games against the (.700) programs. UTAH HAS A Schedules road rate of 4.5. That means they had scheduled games at any combination of these 8 places at a rate of 4.5 per decade over last two decades. 1. Tuscaloosa 2. Austin 3. Norman, OK, 4. Boise 5. Los Angeles Colesium 6. Ann Arbor 7.Columbus Ohio 8.South Bend.
Notre Dame schedules at a rate of 9.
@@MichaelSmith-xb5cp and Utah is 7-4 vs USC the last 10 years and 4-4 vs Oregon. Notre Dame hasn't won a major bowl since 1996. Utah after they adjusted to the p5 in 2014 have fared well vs other top pac programs.
I think the consensus from Utah fans dominating is specifically about this next season. If you talk about the next 5 years Utah will be in the mix but the feeling of domination is specifically about next season. If you look at Utahs toughest games they will be at Oklahoma State and UCF. Utah matches up really well with Oklahoma States strengths which will give them a chance to win that tough away game and the UCF game is kind of a wild card at the moment. But there is no argument that these games are a lot easier than having to go to Eugene, to Washington, to USC. A lot of Utahs dominance FYI was in the last 5 seasons (not counting Covid year) where the program did start dominating in the PAC 12 and as you stated they are about a decade removed from moving from the mountain west. One of the fastest growing brands. Again though I think you are confusing guys like Klatt being high on Utah for next season vs thinking Utah will just dominate year in and year out.
Much respect for the Utah head coach. But i don't see them dominating the Big 12. If they are a playoff team, ill be pulling for them.
Utah is in for a surprise in the B12,
No they aren’t😂this conference is almost a joke without ou or Texas
I get so sick of hearing how "easy" the Pac-12 was. No it wasn't, there was a lot of parity in the conference.
Unlike the Big XII where Oklahoma won the Conference 6 consecutive years and 7-out-of-11 seasons.
That's Oklahoma and nobody else within the Big XII. A similar situation in the ACC, it's been Clemson and nobody else.
I'm not going to say Utah will dominate the Big XII moving forward but this season they are built to win now!
All the pieces are in place, the schedule is negotiable and the Utes know they have a huge target on their backs. Now they have to prove if they're a contender or pretender?
GO UTES!
COL AZST ORST WAST WA ORE STAN USC UU CAL, have all won at least one p5 chip since Y2K.
(TX, OK) BAY TCU KSU only B12 P5 chipholders since Y2K
I think I used the word “arguable,” but point taken.
@@CouzsCornerSports I probably should have started with, "After reading some of the comments...", and my comment wasn't directed to you Couz but in general.
Seems to be a narrative about the Pac-12 that it was weak... Maybe it has been in some seasons but overall, it had a lot of parity.
A lot of upsets: Utah v #5 Stanford, Arizona v. #3 Oregon, Wazzu v. (ranked) Washington and Oregon State v. (ranked) Oregon just off the top of my head.
I don't know about the 20 or so Ute fans that are on X who think the Big XII will be easy but the majority of Ute fans don't share their opinion.
GO UTES!
@@THEeyepatch11not to mention Utah beating Oregon twice in 2021- where either Oregon win would’ve put them into the CFP. Utah beating USC in 2022- where either USC win would’ve put them in the CFP, I think UW beating Utah in 2019 kicked them out of the CFP, etc., etc., etc.
That’s was what some people viewed to be a “problem” with the PAC-12. They didn’t always get CFP recognition as much as they may have because of the inherent cannibalism that often occurred.
It’s a bygone era now, and I agree with all that you’ve said. We will have to see how we fare going forward in this new look B12. As you said, Utah is fielding a “win-now” roster.
Really excited about some of the new talent that we have coming in; JHD, Carsen Ryan, Anthony Woods, Dorian Singer, Keenan Johnson, Damien Alford, Taeshon Lyons, and many more. Not to mention the returning talent; 12 starters from the 2022 PAC CCG, and 6 that played in both PAC CCGs.
Go Utes!
@@Романо-ж2ь GO UTES!
I hope all the Big 12 teams win out of conference games. In addition, it would be great to see a Big 12 team win a natty just to wake up college football. Let’s Goooo!!!
Fully agree that has to be the conference goal.
You tell'em Couz... I know blue and Gold dude would be laughing right now
I’m a Utah fan. I don’t disagree with anything you said.
Thanks
I do. Utah fans are extremely nice. Do some get spicy? Sure. But Utah is a state full of nice people including BYU. We have too much space and beauty here not to be
Couz, what about the records of the teams Utah played against???
Yeah, I didn’t dig that deep. They played a PAC-12 schedule so it’s respectable.
@CouzsCornerSports Every conference opponent was a P5 Champion at least once this millennium (with the exceptions of UCLA, AZ)
Utah fan here. Do I think utah should win the big 12 and be the best team in the conference. 100%. Do I think it’s going to be easy and a cake walk, absolutely not. Playin ok State in Stillwater is going to be very hard, playing ucf in Florida will not be easy. Arizona and Iowa State even at home will be interesting. Colorado would quite possible be a game. I just don’t think most utah fans realize how good a lot of these big 12 programs actually are.
I'm a Utah fan but I'm realistic. The utes always seem to be really good, but they will find a way to screw up an undeafeated season that's for sure lol. Injuries and dumb turnovers always cost the utes
Talk is talk. We won't know anything for sure until the teams face off on the field.
Your analysis is flawed. 😮
Was the PAC 12 a stronger conference or not? I would argue yes, it was a more difficult conference.
That’s arguable but I respect your opinion
Why is every B12 UA-cam channel sound so wildly insecure? Sorry we didn’t jump for joy, we really liked our ex. Literally all the content lately is about Utah and the fans. It’s ok B12 fans maybe we’ll get some time to hang out and become friends. But what we won’t do is not believe in ourselves. We are tired of being overlooked
How many people have forgotten WVU's first year in the Big 12 with Orange Bowl Championship team? WVU was ranked in the top 10 and was undefeated. Then BAM! a rude awakening happened. Same thing will happen to Utah!!!
Klatt didn’t even mention TCU or IaSt. Everyone counting out TCU is crazy to me, I think them and TxT will be back big time.
I’m looking at the schedule. Sure they more likely than not go 3-0 first 3. They’ll find out in Stillwater how tough life can be. I’m calling 8-4 or 7-5. Seriously. OSU AU UCF ISU and TCU could be probable losses. BYU game will be tough as always. We don’t know about Houston ASU or Colorado yet either. They not auto W’s. What if Baylor actually beats Utah? 😂. I’m not discounting that scenario either. There’s another that looks to be an easy W however we could see a very different animal In them
This year. Dave Aranda’s job is on the line. They will have something to prove. It will be fun and Interesting to see how Utah does. They obviously got the bullseye on their collective hides.
Louisville was supposed to do the same thing in the Big East.
As a Utah fan, I hate the hype. It is what the media does. Along with that, I dislike these Utah fans running their gums all the time. I would be willing to bet none of these loud mouths travel to road games. I do and have for 30 years, went to Baylor last year and headed to Stillwater and Orlando this year. That 1% of Utah fans that sets a guy like me up for failure at every road Tailgate 😂
😂😂 I appreciate you and your honesty. Also, thanks for visiting Big 12 stadiums.
Thank You for keep my faith that Utah won't be a replacement for TX concerning their fans. I think it will be a great season and I believe Utah will do its part to increase the B12's value. Welcome to the B12 Chucky! EMAW
I just think there are a lot of sick minded people out there that get their rocks off my trying to start arguments and drama. They light the fuse and then set back and watch it burn with a smile on their face. Utah is in for a rude awakening. Its not going to be a cake walk once they actually schedule a non cupcake schedule.
Every Utah fan thinks that they have a shot at winning the conference title, but only BYU fans posing as Utah fans are making outrageous statements about coming in and dominating. It’s what you do when you are a perennial candidate for last place.
They will get their fair share of wins though we shall see it won't be as easy too to win in big 12
Most overlooked? Yea I think not. 😂 and I can not wait until Utah come into Milan Puskcar and let’s see what happens. I just do not like people/Teams who think they are too good for their current place. Like Utah, Clemson, FSU and several more.
Good comment.
Couz Utah is NOT saying we're going to run through the BIG12, why are you listening to the very few on X? Most Utah fans are excited to be in the BIG12 ,have respect for the BIG 12 schools ( minus BYU) and have never boasted such non sense. The Media has their opinions and we Utah fans are excited to be picked the favorite but also cautious in our enthusiasm. We know the BIG12 won't be a cake walk and no one officially representing the school or team has predicted an easy road to the championship or any disrespect towards the BIG12. You all get worked up over bs stories and comments and its becoming laughable, your insecurity is showing and its you guys that have created this Utah monster in your minds. You all feel Utah has disrespected you, Utah has never disrespected you...just the normal fanatic few that every school has in their fan bases. Hell it looks like Utah is the best thing thats happened to the BIG12 in a long long time. BIG12 fans will be filling the stadiums when Utah comes to play, salivating with hatred because of the perceived disrespect and thats wonderful for the league lol. You all have been manipulated and your paranoia is surprising to me, but hey if this is what you needed for fan base enthusiasm then great. Go Utes!
The “few” on X that you speak of is the majority of Utah fans I have communicated with. After the past couple videos I’ve made, a lot of cool Utah fans have emerged and have been respectful here in the comments. I appreciate that. And you’re right. Having a villain in the league isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
@@CouzsCornerSports well I hope the day will come when you can travel out to Utah for a WV/Utah game and meet the real Utah fans, you will see we're not the classless fans you think we are, you can have a beer with us, come to our tailgate party before the game and experience Rice-Eccles. Go Utes!
You respect all teams except BYU.... that sounds so emotional and stupid, I think BYU is going to be much better and I think you will lose to them even though your game is at home.
Its a rivalry game, the hate is real and why would we respect the school down south with a mediocre team? Utah will easily win the home game and will likely go on another 10 game winning streak against them. BYU fans have treated us its disrespect forever so are you really surprised when we don't respect you guys.....its the Holy War! Go Utes!
@@ericacottle3507 .... Utah is in Decline contrary to what so many Utah fans think.
Rising will not be able to come back from the knee injury, he is done as a player and BYU will Hammer you at home.
BYU is rebounding in Utah is declining and they will fall below the cloud cover and out of sight and out of mind.
Not claiming a national title, it's the NCAA recognizing UCF as a national champion based on the Coley Matrix, which is one of multiple ways the NCAA uses. Such as playoffs, AP, and coaches poll. The Coley Matrix is another.
People who deny UCF's achievement would also argue in years where the AP and coaches differed that one of them doesn't count. It's silly
Who do you trust more to determine a national champion? The old 4-team playoff system where a committee selects the four teams for a made for TV event? Or, a computer rating system without bias from a broadcast company?
Like I said, it’s your prerogative to claim it. It is in the record books. I just think it’s silly. That being said, it’s been great PR for the University and program.
i think kstate will win the big 12, they have the best qb in the big 12
It is alright if the media wants to up the stock of Utah football. It just forces the Utes to perform at a higher level. If they don't perform at that level, then there stock will drop hard in the years ahead. The best Utah can do is to seek to place itself in the middle of the Big 12 in order to prove themselves in the year ahead. It is always better to over-perform than to underperform. Now, everyone is expecting Utah to perform at the highest level of the conference with everyone bringing their best game against them. Such a move rarely goes well for any team even those picked in the AP top 10 based on the previous performance.
Yes
Also if OU was in the Pac 12 from 2011-2023 Utah would be 2-10 against them.
Lol..... what ifs 😂😂😂😂😂
That's what USC, Oregon and Washington fans said
I need to drink whatever these west coast people drinking.
You want to talk about conference titles? How about those who haven't won the conference titles? OK State is the obvious one, IMO they are the best overall B12 team that remained, I know there is arguments against that, but thats just my opinion. What about the newcomers though? Every single PAC team has won a conference championship over last the 25 years or in the case of UCLA at least played for two. Even Colorado won a B12 chip. All except ARIZONA. Arizona is not a very good team (by PAC standards), won no football championship in last 25 years, they almost were beat by a bad Stanford team last season. OKLAHOMA hadn't lost more than 2 games in any season since 2014, that is until LR left with CALEB with the intention of ripping through the weak PAC12. Disaster struck 2022 Oklahoma, a seven loss season with the only highlight of beating OK St in Norman, they also played FSU tight in a bowl game. 2023 rolls around, and Oklahoma is back to their 2 loss form...that is, until they met ARIZONA in San Antonio. Again , Arizona isn't very good by PAC standards, Fifita or not. All this doesn't bode well for the rest of the B12 who may have to play UTAH.....that's the reason so many pundits are predicting the UTES to run through the B12 schedule. I dont think it's even the UTES claiming this, it's not their style. They prefer to keep fairly quiet(unless its BYU), and TCB.
Why would Rice-Eccles Stadium be the hardest place to play in the B12?!? I've looked up some numbers and looked at pix of the stadium. I like the look of Utah's stadium. Rice-Eccles seats 51,444 and record crowd is 53,644. Bill Snyder Family Stadium seats 50,000+ and record crowd is 53,811. I call this equal, +/-. But noticed one big difference from The Bill and Rice-Eccles. Rice-Eccles is a bowl with no upper level, or at least the pix I saw didn't show an upper level. The seats in The Bill are closer to the field due to an upper level and this height helps keep the noise in the stadium and aimed at the field. This set up helps Arrowhead keep the Crown as the loudest NFL stadium. Maybe AZ can make the first comparison between Rice-Eccles and The Bill as far as places hard to play at. I'll let the other B12 fans defend their stadiums. The only one who may have a hard time this year is KU playing in Arrowhead while their stadium is almost completely rebuilt. IF KU can fill Arrowhead, then this will be the hardest place to play this year! Welcome to the B12!
You obviously don't know that you're talking about but up until Oregon beat the Utes last season, Utah's home game winning streak was at 18.
Tell me of a current Big XII team that's won say... 15 straight home games?
Utah does have a very good at home record but so does OK St
@@noahlewis6776 Alabama State 33-7 in Stillwater last season. Ouch!
Because aside from having a raucous crowd, opposing teams are playing at altitude that they aren't used to. This creates a huge home field advantage for Utah as teams find themselves sucking wind in the 2nd half.
I have been to a ton of stadiums personally in my lifetime so far. While Utah may not boast the largest attendance, its fans are right on top of you, the Stadium is a big Chilli bowl not a saucer and it does get loud as hell as the sound has no place to go. Unlike the "Big House" , Rose 🌹 Bowl, Coliseum, LES, Baylor and other's. Now that being said the "Swamp" is the most impressive college game I have been too so far.
I get so sick and tired of B12 fans trying to explain how they're on Utah's level. Y'all need to quit with the mental gymnastics and prove that you belong on the same field as Utah before running your mouths. And until then, show some respect and take a knee when talking about the Utah Utes--your new King of the B12 Conference! #America'sTeam!
You haven’t even played a conference game yet. Slow down there chief. Lol
@@CouzsCornerSports The Utes don't slow down for anyone. We're going to roll through the season to Dallas on Dec 7th. No idea who we'll be playing for the B12 championship, but you can mark it down...Utah's already there!
I'm a Utah fan - season ticket holder.
No, Utah is not going to "dominate" the conference. Yes, a FEW of our loudmouth fans on social media are saying that Utah will dominate the conference. I say a FEW because it is an extremely SMALL percentage of our fanbase. These Utah "fans" are trolls - they have been trolling BYU fans back and forth for a decade or more, fueled by their hatred of the state of Utah, or it's conservative politics, or hatred of the sponsoring church of BYU, or whatever - and therefore, they really aren't Utah fans since they are trolls first, and "fans" second (or third).
I get that they are probably sick and tired of BYU fans claiming superiority over Utah when BYU has one win in the last ten games. And I get that these Utah "fans" are probably tired of being treated by many in the state (mostly BYU faithful) as "sinners", "trailer trash" (a common phrase used to describe all Utah fans on CougarBoard) or whatever - hence why they troll so much. Still, these Utah "fans" are trolls regardless of the reasons they are trolling. The overwhelming 99.999% of Utah's fanbase is relatively quiet online, and are not like these trolls at all.
With that said, I think Utah is set up quite well to compete in the XII - most XII fans already realize that. But, according to Vegas odds, even if Utah is the favorite, it is a very slight favorite, and any of the favorites to win the conference - including Utah - has at best, a 20% to 25% chance of winning the conference. Therefore, these Utah "fans" who are trolling are gambling - they have, statistically, about a 75% to 80% chance of being wrong. But they are just trolls, so they don't care if they end up being wrong.
Good luck to all teams in the conference - except BYU - they can have bad luck! (Just kidding you know.)
Great comment.
Lol RES will be the toughest place to play. They are 30-2 the last 5 years.
I bet you've watched a total of 5 Utah football games.
Some of the teams I think will be at the top position include Arizona since Arizona beat Utah by 24 points last year. I would also include OK State, Kansas State, and hopefully WV. But it’s wide open in my opinion for a number of teams to be at the top of the conference. But Utah will also be in the discussion.
That's not a good indicator, Utah's season was already a bust before they played AZ.
Then Arizona will have no problem beating a 90-100% Ute team this season @RES and not the 20% Ute team they faced in Tucson right?
I do not think that Utah will dominate The Big 12 in any way shape or form, they may complete well, there's too many other teams I think from here out it'll be hit-and-miss with different teams some teams will be up for a couple of years and they'll be down for a couple of years and that's just the way it is. In my opinion let's go mountaineers. 🏈💥
No they won’t win it. They will be a good team in the conference. They will be the new most hated team the villains you could say. But I think they will be surprised at the level of competition. They had several gimmie games in the PAC. Won’t have any in the BIG12. I think they finish like 3/4th
Wvu penn state is 12 on fox like I had found out 2 months ago
Anyone who agrees with him has not watched Utah over the last several years. You’ll see.
The Pac-12 has not been a tough conference for the last 5-10 years. Arizona was good last year, bad for years before that. Stanford has been bad for 5 years. UCLA mostly mediocre lately, some good years. Arizona St. mixed years. California, not good for an extended time. Colorado? Yeah, right. Being one of the top 2-3 schools in the conference hasn't been hard. Meanwhile, Utah has lost 5 bowl games in a row. Yeah, big deal to make there to begin with, but you don't lose 5 in a row and say you're going to dominate the new conference, which also happens to be a significantly tougher conference. The weekly grind is going to be a lot harder. Oh, and one of those bowl losses was to a Big 12 team....well, a former Big 12 team, but Texas was Big 12 at the time.
That's what you're missing. Even a bad Stanford is still dangerous enough to beat USC twice, Oregon twice, Washington twice, and Notre Dame once in that bad 5 years of a one-way portal that transplanted half of Stanford's starting O line to bolster Harbaugh's natty winning team, and even then, they we're threatening to upset Washington again last year......look who the PAC champions are the last 5-6 years.
KW is a fabulous coach and all, but I think the PAC had more dead weight than the Big 12, so there’s going to be a different weekly grind for Utah. I wouldn’t be shocked to see them win, they’re that good, but I can say the same for about 2/3 of the league.
As for RES being the toughest place to play…based on what, exactly? What a homer comment. It can’t be the altitude-BYU is at altitude with a bigger crowd. What about WVU? KSU? ISU?
These are average 20 yr old kids. They make mistakes, get injured etc. Nothing wrong with pre season predictions but things can change. Not sure why this bothers everyone. We eat it up and do it all over again the next year. What is flag bearer mean anyway?
Flag bearer means leader. Sorry, I like to use metaphors and sometimes I assume everyone knows what they mean.
Typical of national media types. They act like the Big 12 is garbage since Texas and Oklahoma left. I hope Utah gets smacked around by Big 12 teams that don’t appreciate the disrespect.
Well said
What wow really Joe Klatts you don't know what you are talking about about sorry but your a announcer you don't know the Big 12 you don't cover Big 12 has been toughest conference in the country.
Is Dutch Miller a neanderthal?
Are you a clown?
How much money did Joe KLlatt get for that video? or Did he just get back from the bar down the street???
Lol
Wheres the love for the Outlaw ? I donated over 20 bucks to your last LIVE stream and contribute commentary to many of your videos and yet no commentary returns on my videos or streams.
Donations are not needed but you could at least give me some comments ahahahaha
Sorry brother. I try. I barely even have time to watch other people’s videos. And when I do I’m usually listening while driving.
@@CouzsCornerSports Its all good. I understand. Just poking at ya ahahaha
They won't.
Utah will dominate their cake schedule but not go undefeated and won't when the conference title.
If anything, just remember this: Utah basically needed a miracle to beat lowly Baylor last year.
I remember Colorado couldn't buy a win in the PAC , but TCU and Nebraska saved their day. 😆
With 3rd and 4th string QBs, starting TE and RBs out, on the road against a team that they hadn’t played before, and in 120 degree heat. I could go on.
Oregon only beat Texas Tech by the skin of their teeth. Oregon only lost to the natty runner up twice last season and barely each game. Most people thought that OU would beat UW the second time. Was Oregon a bad team?
UW barely beat ASU, (a team that Utah beat 63-3) last season on a pick-six, not scoring an offensive touchdown that game. They went on to beat Big XII champion Texas, and team whom handed Alabama their only loss at home.
Alabama won the game against a middling Auburn team on a Hail Mary on 4th and 31. Alabama, the team whom beat Georgia, owner of the longest winning streak in CFB history in the SEC CCG. Was Alabama a bad team?
You get the point. Teams actually have to play the games on Saturday, and it doesn’t matter who is better on paper. There are many factors that play into things. We’ll see how Baylor fares against a 85-95% Utah team at RES this season against the 50% Utah team that played BU last year in Waco.
No and they have a guaranteed loss Sept 21st in Stillwater.
I love your confidence
@@CouzsCornerSports If a Utah fan said that "Utah is going into Stillwater and I guarantee a win." Would that be confidence or arrogance? You have me confused.
Utah wasn't a dominant force in the Pac 12. They will be the same in the Big 12. They can't keep a QB healthy to save their lives. And he is a really good QB. They will be competitive. That's it. The Big 12 top to bottom. Is much more physical than the Pac 12 was. It would be really tough to pick a front runner at this point.
Colorado runs the B12.
They are coming from a very very weak Pac 12 conference. I don't think Pac 12 is any better than the ACC. If you play very weak teams then dumb people is going to think they are very good.
“Then dumb people is going to think they are very good”
I don't think the Big XII will have a team to dominate it, I believe its to competitive, and will be won by a different team more often than not!
Utah is a great program!! Will they dominate the Big XII? No! They will be in the mix, and will pretty much always will be a tough out! But they aren't "the class of the Big XII", they are just a great addition to a conference that is on the rise in my opinion! Also, Mr. Klatt, don't sleep on Morgantown... 😉.. And all the talk about Utah going to the ACC is whatever to me, we won't miss what we never knew, and the Big XII will be just fine!! Also, I think it would be funny if they shun the Big XII for the ACC, and when the big dogs leave for greener pastures and the ACC falls apart, the Big XII takes teams from the ACC, they leave Utah out and let em go to the AAC, or go independent. 😂 Yes, Utah has done well the last 10 yrs or so, but I'm one of the people that Couz mentioned that thinks the Big XII was superior to the Pac, and Utah wouldn't have that record if they were in the Big XII, there would be a lot more loses!! But that's just my opinion!! Im ALL IN on the Mighty Mountaineers this season, and truly believe this is the yr we FINALLY make the Big XII championship... And dare I say, win it!! 😁 LET'S GOOOOOOO 🏈🏀⚾🇺🇸
Mountaineers!
You are completely backwards my friend. The former PAC 12 was a more difficult conference hands down. 😮
@@grantstanfield6636 I disagree friend, but , as hard as it was for me to believe, I'm actually wrong from time to time.. 😭😁 I just feel the Big XII was tougher top to bottom. 🤷♂️