VW Golf Ignition repair

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  • Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
  • VW Golf Mark 5 Ignition jammed , Repair without removing steering wheel or lock nuts or air bags, taking apart Ignition , Ignition Key assembly
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  • @gerrythorne8771
    @gerrythorne8771 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you for this video…used it to rescue my son in laws Caddy that had the steering lock jammed in place …van was hardly worth saving but a lifeline for his business so a free fix was an amazing find..

  • @user-jf8yr4cg5p
    @user-jf8yr4cg5p 3 роки тому +1

    Great video review! I repaired without removing the VW GOLF6 ignition lock. Removed 2 fragments of xylumin. The lock works fine.

  • @CraigSNZ
    @CraigSNZ 2 роки тому +2

    Great video skills Sean.
    2 points. If you want to remove the shear bolts then drill a 3mm hole in the top of them. hammer a t15 bit into the hole and turn with a spanner.
    2. There are two problems which both play a part in the lock becoming stiff. The first is under a hardened 10mm cap on the lock body is a spring loaded deadlocking pin with a ramp shape on it that gets dented so the pin won't slide on it freely. Grind or Dremel the casting around this cover and pull it out. Now the steering locks but won't deadlock. The lock will also be possible to reassemble as once deadlocked it cannot move to wriggle the shaft into place.
    The primary issue you had was the pin that stops the lock from locking until you remove the key has broken through the casting. Remove that pin and spring and the casting shrapnel and the lock would now lock as soon as you turned to the lock position before you took the key out.
    I take the lock right off to work on these as I have the technique to remove the shearbolts and it makes disassembly and cleanup easier.

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому

      Thanks for this Craig. Drilling the 3mm hole and hammerin' in the t15 bit is a great idea allright, certainly if the preferred option is to remove the whole unit . From what I gathered from other videos on this, these shear bolts aren't very tight.
      I just wanted to remove the lock mechanism in it's entirety - not just the shrapnel - and get back to driving. The key itself is chipped so this is security enough ... hopefully!
      Thanks again,
      Seán

    • @AndersMcTee
      @AndersMcTee 2 роки тому

      I got a small pin drift through the hole on the plastic casing and tapped the right hand bolt out quickly. The left hand bolt has poor access to do this so I snipped just enough plastic housing away to do the same. I replaced it with standard 16mm length M8 bolts. Drilling would’ve been cleaner but my car broke down in a parking bay with no access to power. 🙁

    • @killer11843
      @killer11843 2 роки тому

      I vouch for the first point. by far the easiest way to remove the bolts is to drill a hole in it and hammer a bit into it, no amount of tapping could relase the bolts on mine, luckily i saw this comment after breaking every 'screw extractor' tool.
      make sure to use a sharp HSS or metal drill bit. also it isnt really possible to make a straight hole as the dash is in the way, it doesnt matter as long as the bit is hammered in place.
      ps. i removed 4 screws this way with ease.
      Thanks !!

  • @jansoltisik8208
    @jansoltisik8208 3 роки тому +3

    Disconnecting the battery will not stop the engine running, that's right, more importantly it's very likely to cause a damage to the alternator, never disconnect the charging circuit whilst the engine is running.

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  3 роки тому +1

      Yep, a wise comment, thanks Jan!
      I have to admit though the first thing I did was disconnect the battery without thinking, as I'd imaging 99% of people will do if they can't turn their engine off. Fortunately it was just 'ticking over' for a short time 'till I disconnected the fuel relay and no harm done ... so don't despair if you've disconnected the battery first.
      All the best!

  • @AndersMcTee
    @AndersMcTee 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for posting this. What is it with these bloody VAG barrels? I’ve just had to change the barrel and cylinder on mine. It was very tight to turn, sometimes I’d take the key out and the ignition remained on and then it seized solid. If it helps anybody watching this I removed my sheer bolts and posted a video on my channel explaining how I did it.

  • @stefanobertoni9886
    @stefanobertoni9886 2 роки тому

    Grazie mille per il video, ho risolto il problema all'audi A3, un saluto dall'Italia.

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому +2

      È bello sapere che l'hai fatto funzionare di nuovo. Da quello che vedo, Audi, Seat, Skoda e VW condividono tutte accensioni simili. Is míse le meas! Seán

  • @teamrobinson8516
    @teamrobinson8516 2 роки тому +1

    Superb video, got me out of a fix.

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому +1

      Great to hear. It's difficult to imagine that this appears to be such a common problem. Take care! Seán

  • @zondepa5537
    @zondepa5537 2 роки тому +2

    Great video! Man thanks for sharing. What was the reason removing the whole block? To prevent locking while turnint the steering wheel? I am having the same issue. I will try to remove the broken parts an try tirst without cutting it out. We shall see. Someone did iz here too so i guess this works as well.

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому

      Hello Zon, Yeah, I would have been concerned about the steering locking alright if I only removed part of it but regardless of this, the upper part - the lock itself - was still stopping the key from turning properly even though the other broken pieces were removed. You might be able to fish it out without drilling the hole, depending on where it broke, but I found I had to drill and drop it down through.
      All the best, Seán

    • @dmahn90
      @dmahn90 2 роки тому

      Hi zon what happened when you removed the broken pieces? Any update?

  • @evertspies3345
    @evertspies3345 2 роки тому

    Hi, this seems to be the simplest of all the videos I have seen. I need to do this job on a Caddy maxi panel van. Before I can start I need to know more clearly how to remove the barrel. From the video its not clear (to me) where the paper clip goes in. I see the hole but not sure if the clip must go in that hole or more towards the notch. The hole seems smaller than the size of the paper clip.

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому

      'Morning Evert, line up the two half-circle holes(on position) then insert the paper clip. Hopefully you'll be able to do this as sometimes/most-times the pieces that jam up the mechanism on the inside make turning the ignition to this point difficult. If you can't line them up then try to insert it anyway or a thin needle held by a pliers as you just need to press down the clip that stops it sliding out, Seán

    • @evertspies3345
      @evertspies3345 2 роки тому

      @@keepitassimpleasyoucan145 Thanks for the speedy reply. Will give it my best shot. Great video.

  • @tgamirov
    @tgamirov 2 роки тому

    Thanks for video, I’ll try this gut-job first

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому

      Keep us updated on your progress :) Seán

    • @tgamirov
      @tgamirov 2 роки тому

      @@keepitassimpleasyoucan145 had to take the whole thing out. My key would not turn enough to insert the wire. Drilled the bolt heads and used a screw extractor. Replaced the cylinder. Car is fixed.

  • @zakaria6086
    @zakaria6086 3 роки тому +1

    I cannot turn the key to the point to remove the bowler. What I can do ?

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  3 роки тому

      I had this problem too. I sprayed WD40 oil into the keyhole to lubricate the broken parts and giggling the key and the steering wheel to get it to this position. If you remove the top of the key fob by tapping out the pin you might be able to apply an extra bit of 'gentle persuasion' by attaching a vice-grip to the top of the metal part of the key.
      And if this doesn't work my next step would be to drill the hole underneath to try to remove broken parts of the steering lock that's keeping it from turning. Keep me posted - good luck! Seán

  • @knickerzz6916
    @knickerzz6916 10 місяців тому

    Hello, I am trying this method on my golf mk6. How did you get the lower spring loaded part of the locking pin out? It seems quite large and wouldn’t have fit out of the small hole you drilled. Cheers

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  10 місяців тому

      Hello, I used the wire to maneuver the larger piece so it fitted out. I had to add corners on to the hole - 7:55 on video - using the side of the drill and a small grinding piece. It slipped out so quick I didn't manage to get it on the video. Hope this helps, Seán

    • @knickerzz6916
      @knickerzz6916 9 місяців тому

      Yeah I see that part but I mean the lower part which is hard to see but is there at 6:06 and then gone in the next shot at 6:28 before the steering control module is removed.

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  9 місяців тому

      @@knickerzz6916 'Morning,
      Everything inside the 'ledge' was part of the steering lock mechanism and was broken and had to be removed. The first circular ring part came out in bits through the front. It looks like it was complete in the video but when I started to remove it it was broken and came out in parts.

  • @eoinlynch8528
    @eoinlynch8528 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video. Any idea if the car will pass NCT like this?

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  11 місяців тому +1

      I had no problem with the NCT. Checking the NCT Preparation Guide on this it says "It is acceptable for a steering lock to be missing or inoperative provided the vehicle has an engine immobiliser, or a permanently installed immobilisation device which acts on either the steering, brakes or the transmission" see under 7.3 Locks and Anti-Theft Devices- www.ncts.ie/media/aidher01/nct_manual_2023.pdf

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  11 місяців тому +1

      ... and good luck in the NCT :) Seán

    • @eoinlynch8528
      @eoinlynch8528 11 місяців тому

      Great stuff Seán thanks 👍

  • @blissacer
    @blissacer 3 роки тому

    Bonjour, me concernant la clef n'est pas bloquée dans le neiman, je peux la mettre dans le contacteur mais impossible de la tourner pour pouvoir démonter avec la tige métallique, une solution ?
    Metcu

  • @ryancox9901
    @ryancox9901 Рік тому

    Hi there. I replaced the steering lock mechanism on mine and refitted old immobiliser but now car won’t start. Electrics all working fine but car won’t do anything when I turn to the start engine position. Any ideas?

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  Рік тому

      Sorry for the late reply Ryan - does the engine actually turn over and not start or does the engine do nothing? If the engine turns over and doesn't start then I'd be thinking first that the Keycode chip in the key is not matched(or something amiss) with the cars Computer Unit?
      After this I'd start looking into the wiring, or make sure the unit at the bottom(other end of steering barrel) is connecting properly, Seán

  • @danjim7056
    @danjim7056 3 роки тому +1

    Dam it!!! Guess there is no way around having to have the key in the on position

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  3 роки тому +1

      Try spraying WD40, then 'wiggle' both the steering and key. If nothing else works and it is a Mk 5 then you could try drilling the hole first to 'fish out' the broken bits that are jamming it up.

    • @danjim7056
      @danjim7056 3 роки тому

      @@keepitassimpleasyoucan145 I ended up getting it by smashing it with a hammer holding it in different positions. I just want to be able to use my key with the new assembly.

    • @Desopolis
      @Desopolis 2 роки тому

      @@danjim7056 was your key stuck in the lock? What did you hit with the hammer?
      My Jetta has had issues before but today the switch wont let me go into the ON position... The lock is turning but jamming up like everyone elses..

    • @danjim7056
      @danjim7056 2 роки тому

      @@Desopolis I took the whole lock assembly off the steering column and hit the body of it with a hammer. You might be able to free it while installed still but it's going to jam again if you Don't replace or fix it.

    • @danjim7056
      @danjim7056 2 роки тому

      They key went in and out of the lock but didn't turn at all.

  • @Ash-kr3yl
    @Ash-kr3yl 4 місяці тому

    Hi. Got the steering lock stuck after taking the barrel out. How to release steering lock?

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  4 місяці тому

      Hello Ash, The broken steering lock was my problem too, although mine wasn't stuck in the 'on' position as it appears yours is. The solution I imagine is the same, that is to remove the steering lock mechanism and free-up the steering. It should come down once the spring that pushes it up is removed. The hole I drilled in the bottom of the steering was the way I got it out, straight down. Hopefully this helps,
      Seán

    • @Ash-kr3yl
      @Ash-kr3yl 4 місяці тому

      Thank you very much for the reply. Done the same but unable to turn the key still.

    • @Ash-kr3yl
      @Ash-kr3yl 4 місяці тому

      Some one coming to change the barrel tomorrow

  • @Radiantkid
    @Radiantkid 2 роки тому

    Great video👍

  • @MrTezZilla
    @MrTezZilla 2 роки тому

    what if the key won’t turn all the way to allow the black key barrel to come off?

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому

      My key wouldn't turn either. I sprayed WD40 oil into it and kept 'jiggling' it back and forward until it turned. Have you tried this already? Seán

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому

      And if this doesn't work you could just go straight to drilling the hole underneath the actual steering-lock area and take out some broken pieces. this should allow the key to turn.

  • @chrisjorga1680
    @chrisjorga1680 3 роки тому

    Hi there,I have a golf that wont start. I think that the problem might be petrol pumpbut in your video you stop your car by taking something out of the engine.Any adviceif this might cause the problem or other ideas. thanks Chris

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  3 роки тому

      Hello Chris, I took out a ‘Relay’ which is a small in-between switch on the circuit that turns on another circuit. My car is a petrol engine too but I expect Pumps and Relays are similar for diesels as well. The main reason I knew about the Relay in the engine is that these caused my own car not to start and yes, I looked at the petrol pump first too.
      There’s a Relay for the fuel pump behind the small glove box(in video) but it was the one in the engine that was my problem.
      To confirm it was a fuel problem I put about 2 spoonfuls of petrol directly into top of Carburetor, then tried to start and engine almost turned over(not suggesting you do this but if you do then wear goggles in case of spitback).
      By the way, from what I’ve seen in scrapyards, a lot of Audi’s, Seat's and Skoda’s have very similar fuse and relay setups.
      Good luck and let my know how you get on,
      Seán

  • @dmahn90
    @dmahn90 2 роки тому

    Hi I thought I had broken pieces same as yourself but what i found was a small metal piece with a spring attached to the end of it, It was jammed so i removed the spring. any suggestions on what to do further, thanks.

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому

      Hello David - from what you describe it sounds like this piece is from the first part of the ignition( the part that holds the key - the part that's in my hand at 4min20sec of video) this may pop out when removing this part but probably isn't the reason you had to take the barrel apart in the first place. Check if the inside part of the barrel turns ok with a flathead screwdriver. If it doesn't then the problem is inside here, Seán

    • @dmahn90
      @dmahn90 2 роки тому

      @@keepitassimpleasyoucan145 hi Sean thanks for your reply, I've check in around and found no more broken pieces etc, the ignition turns fine, I assembled it all back together and befre I put the barrel on, I turned the ignition with a flat head screw driver all is fine the car is turning over ok, my issue now is once the barrel is on and back in place I insert the key and it's not Turning properly at all, I don't know why, I've had the barrel check all is fine with that also, any further advice be much appreciated, I've had no car for over a week now :/

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому

      @@dmahn90 Hello again David, if the inner ignition mechanism turns smoothly with a flat screwdriver all the time when you have the front part of the key barrel out, and there are no broken parts inside then that points to the first part of the key barrel itself. Have you got/tried your second key? Maybe your key is worn and just doesn't unlock the key barrel properly anymore. You'll know this anyway when you have the two parts of the key barrel separated and if you can turn the key in the ignition when it's out of the barrel,
      Seán

    • @dmahn90
      @dmahn90 2 роки тому

      @@keepitassimpleasyoucan145 hi, well I seems to be the lock in the inside is the problem, I got the barrel on and she i tried Turning it its getting stuck I can hear the lock it's self clicking on the inside, I don't have the proper tools to drill out the lock like you did and that would possibly sort all my problems, so I'm getting a locksmith out today to replace the lot, it's costly but I'm in need of the car ASAP, thanks for all the info Sean greatly explained.

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому

      @@dmahn90 'Morning David, it mightn't be the standard locksmith job so don't be surprised if he/she goes 's*@t !'
      Just in case though, you'll only need to drill the hole if you can't get all the broken pieces out, and any drill shoild do - as it's aluminium(softer than steel) the drill can be used to grind to grind by putting light sideways pressure in the hole. Just remember to wear goggles in case it breaks, Seán

  • @realjiver2
    @realjiver2 3 роки тому

    How did you know ecactly where to start drilling the hole?

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  3 роки тому +1

      Hello, I had already removed the inside of the ignition. I needed to drill the hole to remove the remaining part of the steering lock so I just inserted a measure stick inside and marked length outside ... but it was under the middle of the steering column as the steering lock is directly under this part so I would have drilled here anyway, Seán

  • @mdpasha1273
    @mdpasha1273 3 роки тому

    Good sir

  • @Chandlej1
    @Chandlej1 2 роки тому

    Did you ever get the firewood?

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому

      I'm afraid you've lost me??

    • @Chandlej1
      @Chandlej1 2 роки тому

      @@keepitassimpleasyoucan145 If you watch the cc, there is a moment where someone in the background says something about getting firewood. 😂

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому +1

      @@Chandlej1 :) Yeah, was a cold day allright, starts snowing at one stage. Probably "when will you be finished to go light the fire" :)

  • @_malkang
    @_malkang 3 роки тому

    thanks, good video!!
    I have a guestion. You removed a lock pin(?). After you turn off a engine, Can you lock a steering?

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  3 роки тому

      'Morning. The answer is no, the steering lock is removed, but the chip in the key is the better anti-theft device I reckon. I've heard a large screwdriver can force the ignition or jamming the steering from left to right will snap the aluminium part of the lock - if you're a would-be thief that is,
      All the best! Seán

    • @_malkang
      @_malkang 3 роки тому

      @@keepitassimpleasyoucan145 thank you very much. I did it today. my key was come back in my hand!!

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  3 роки тому

      @@_malkang did you get it working again ?

    • @_malkang
      @_malkang 3 роки тому

      @@keepitassimpleasyoucan145 Yes!! but I did it little different. I just pull out all small parts from ignition inside. I found a small piece and assambled. finally work again.

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  3 роки тому

      @@_malkang that's great, well done!

  • @Modern-Gladiator
    @Modern-Gladiator 3 роки тому

    Heya mate, yesterday I was stuck in a car park and kept trying to turn the ignition on but it wouldn’t turn all the way. After trying and trying for 2 hours it turned on (luckily) and I drove it home. Now at home it’s fully not turning and I’ve tried WD40 Jiggle still not working, my golfs a 2004 model and it is quite old. Would you say it’s a Key problem or the ignition Mechanism needs to be replaced?

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  3 роки тому +1

      Sounds like the same problem I, and a lot of other people have had but if you have a different key give it a try - though usually a worn key sticks a little and gets worse in time. You could go as far as taking out the 'key section' (first part of video) and if key then turns when disconnected then it's pretty certain that some part of the steering lock has broke and is causing the jam. If your key is stuck in the 'ON' position I think I'd try this first though as it can be tricky to get it back to ON again, Seán

    • @Modern-Gladiator
      @Modern-Gladiator 2 роки тому

      Hey mate,I’m currently looking for a Igniton barrel housing.
      Do the ignition barrel housings from later models (2005) or older models fit it or does it have to be the original part for the actual car and model?
      I’ve called my local European parts specialist and they say I have to buy the whole kit which costs about (200-400) Australian dollars.

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  2 роки тому

      @@Modern-Gladiator the first place I'd go is a Car Dismantlers, bound to have a range of Golfs 'cause they're so popular

    • @CraigSNZ
      @CraigSNZ 2 роки тому

      @@Modern-Gladiator Go to your local locksmith. He will either stock one or get one overnight and be cheaper than the stealership.

  • @blissacer
    @blissacer 3 роки тому

    Bonjour, me concernant la clef n'est pas bloquée dans le neiman, je peux la mettre dans le contacteur mais impossible de la tourner pour pouvoir démonter avec la tige métallique, une solution ?
    Metcu

    • @keepitassimpleasyoucan145
      @keepitassimpleasyoucan145  3 роки тому +1

      J'ai eu ce problème également. J'ai utilisé de l'huile WD40 dans le trou de la serrure et j'ai rigolé la clé et le volant pour l'amener à cette position. Si vous retirez le haut de la clé en tapant sur la goupille, vous pourrez peut-être attacher un étau au haut de la partie métallique de la clé.
      Si cela ne fonctionne pas, ma prochaine étape serait de percer le trou en dessous pour essayer de retirer les pièces cassées du verrou de direction qui l'empêche de tourner - bonne chance ! Seán

    • @blissacer
      @blissacer 3 роки тому

      @@keepitassimpleasyoucan145 merci beaucoup pour la réponse, je vais essayer de suite.