Here's some follow up information: 1) You can tilt the grinder to make it easier to grind. This is especially helpful with lighter roasts. We haven't had the time to check how this affects the particle distribution but we'll update this space once we get around to testing this. 2) 1ZPresso have confirmed that the build up in the threads will not cause any jamming issues. We still recommend you brush and blow out the threads after every few uses.
Great review, and good follow up. I've had my J- max for a month and can confirm that two techniques I use for easier grinding have no real effect on the grind quality, not even one click needed to compensate. One method, as you mention, is tilting to reduce the bean feed rate - this really makes lighter roasts easier to grind. Tilting almost horizontal doesn't affect the grind quality either. The other technique is speed. If you crank fast enough, you grind fewer beans at a time and the torque needed is much less. I mix and match speed and tilt. As for retention, I'd say around 0.8g with no taps, half that in normal practice, but well under 0.1g with RDT. 1zpresso actually recommend a few drops of water shaken with the beans, which is what I do. Weigh beans in a small container, drip 4-5 drops of water on, cover with my palm and shake, before tipping into the grinder. Much of the water remains on your palm, or on the shot glass you weigh the beans in, but still makes a world of difference - basically zero retention. You should try the cordless screwdriver method too. 1zspresso recommend this too, and the 1/4" hex shaft is made for it, but so far I haven't felt the need, this grinder being so easy to dial for espresso..
@@ayex86 from a UX, convenience or grind performance/taste perspective? For espresso, filter/aero or both? I don't own a Commandante but have borrowed one on occasion (a MK3 I think and without the red clix) and even after getting over the glass grinds bin (no, just no!) I find the whole experience far from satisfactory especially at the price point. The 1zpresso range, to my mind at any rate, offers equivalent grind performance packaged much more attractively and while I can't say I prefer espressos from my J-Max to the Commandante they are at least no worse.
The pyramid grind size indicator is pretty genius, a lot of grinders have that issue (Eureka / Niche Zero etc). A lot of people who review this grinder may not even know of that lol.
I'm really getting to love this channel more and more. Not only the superb quality of both video and the content inteself, but the topics you cover are really doing it for me. And the sketches in between ofc :DD You deserve much greater audiance, good job!
Hey Hoon thanks for stopping by! Thank you for the regular live streams, its a great way to stay up to date with what's new in the coffee gadget world. :)
I've been using a 1Zpresso K-Pro for around 3 months, and I can't be happier. I love this Taiwanese hand grinder brand! I can't stop watching your channel. You're a constant inspiration :)
really good comment about how to re-zero. You have to recalibrate so the the grinder LOCKS at zero. My J-max came with bad assembly so 120 click grind gave me pour-over size and re-zero will never lock the grinder. Your video helped me find the flaw and I was able to fix it!
this channel is so fire. I don't know why you only have 10k subs. Thank you for the detailed information that isn't just reading out the spec section of their website, I actually really appreciate that.
I bought this to accompany my Picopresso, and have been thoroughly impressed by the espresso shots I get. Now use it to grind beans for use with my Gaggia Classic Pro.
Thank you for reviewing this and making me feel great for picking it out. And thank u for showing how to calibrate it! I thought i calibrated it before but knew something was way off!
The J-Max is due to arrive in today's post. I was hoping I made the right choice. You're fine review says I did. I appreciate this well done appraisal.
I've had a 1Zpresso JE-Plus for 2-1/2 years and I have zero regrets! It's been a superb grinder that has never failed me! I use it daily and it simply does its job! I make espresso shots so I grind fine for my preferred medium roast beans. As far as I can tell the JE-Plus is the predecessor to the J-Max which has some nice upgrades. I would love to upgrade but my current grinder still works good as new! I'm a big proponent on not fixing that which isn't broken so I'll keep going with my current grinder until such time as it breaks, if ever!
Love the video guys. One of the best review videos I've seen on the grinder so far. The video not only included your experience with the grinder, but more importantly some usage tips and potential issues to be wary of is an absolute win in my book. Consumers want to also know what it will be like to live with and how a product performs, with many reviewers only focusing on the latter. Just discovered your channel, and will definitely be watching each and every video! "We want to create useful, actionable content as opposed to surface level reviews" is a great principle to have and it definitely shows. Any chance you'll review the K-plus and do a comparison soon?
I've been looking into a manual grinder (hurricane season is here, and power outages are inevitable) and this is a damn nice looking one. Thanks for the review!
This grinder has been part of my daily morning coffee for a year now, and I'm a very happy user. I do agree that for lighter roasts, turning the crank can sometimes be hard. I've found two tricks are helping here. Number one: use the supplied rubber band, put it as far up on the grinder body as possible, close to the adjustment ring. Number two: hold the grinder in your right hand (if you're right-handed, else reverse), the crank knob in your left, and use the motions of both arms by making the hands orbit each other.
I’ve only watched 2 reviews from your site. This one and the nanofoamer and I could say that from all the reviews that I have watched with regards to those 2 products; yours is the best bar none. You have a new subscriber! Keep it up!
I’ve been using the e series. Since I’ve been grinding light roasts for the flair, it takes so much more arm work! That’s why I love the technology of using an electric screw driver to attach to the grinder. I believe it works in all of their products. I didn’t need an upgrade until now haha. 1zpresso feels like the apple of all grinders. Sick one!
Thank you for mentioning the exposed top inner thread. I used K-Plus as my daily driver for more than 2 years. Towards the end the coffee built up inside those inner thread has somewhat damaged the adjustment mechanism. It can still be used for sure, but the adjustment ring can slightly rotate between clicks. Admittedly, I don't deep clean my grinder that often (probably once every other month) but I don't see how constant cleaning could prevent that seeing that the inner thread is a pretty inaccessible spot and the lubricant makes it hard to blow it with the included blower.
Happy to report that I've ordered one of these grinders this morning, in part based on your review. I did find it to be, as you say "actionable content". I just haven't seen many other grinders with a grind setting that can be so easily repeatably indexed. The settings are even easily shared, as you could go onto a community forum and ask what setting people like to use for a particular brew method or even a specific machine, and get answers back in the #-#-# format that you can reproduce. That along with the ease of breakdown and an accessory pack that costs extra for the JX-pro, 1Zpresso's other darling grinder. It just seems like a real all around winner.
@@aramse I hope so for sure. Just starting out in espresso and picked out a Uniterra Nomad for the brewing device. They seem to be a lot more obscure than the Flair for non-powered espresso making, but everything I've found about them suggests they can do it well.
Hi! For retention on my JX-Pro I dip a teaspoon in water, shake off the excess and stir the beans in the catch cup before grinding. I don't think that this tiny amount of water would hurt the grinder. I also tap the sides of the grinder after grinding. I get very little retention. Great video!
Hey thanks for watching. Yes we mention RDT at 8:57 and it works really well but we can't recommend it to people when the company says to avoid water. So you'd be doing this at your own risk.
1zpeesso only say avoid water for cleaning. Sure, too much water would be trapped and would be a bad idea. But RDT beans do not leave the grinder moist. 1zpresso actually recommend a few drops water on the beans - see their FAQ
@@ylleKkcirtaPnadnerB If it can handle the humidity of Taiwan it should be able to handle RDT, that's only about 0.1g of water (I RDT on the scale) so on 20g that's 0.5% humidity on top of what's in the beans, which should be like 10%. So RDT is negligable.
Man... just two days ago I was leaning (again) towards the Commandante as my first proper grinder purchase, and here you are reminding me that 1ZPresso has stepped up the game - several times - since the Commandante's debut.
Well the Comandante is a stellar grinder and still sits at the top when you look purely at the results in the cup. If you primarily do filter or other brewed coffee and the occasional espresso then definitely get the Comandante. If you do a lot of espresso, you'd still be happy with the results in the cup but the workflow and grind time can get quite frustrating and this is where the J-Max shines.
I’ve been using it for a month now and I love it. I mostly use it for espresso, medium and dark roasts. I love the fine adjustments I can make and overall everything else about. No negatives yet. It works great, super easy to use and clean, and the adjustment ring is sweet!
Thank you for making this great video I have been thinking about getting me a nice manual grinder for a while and have watched a lot of videos but this one of yours seems to be the most convincing one of all, and I subscribed to your Channel because of this video.
Thank you for this wonderful video! I do not think I would ever use a hand grinder because I am definitely too much of a zombie in the mornings, but also because my Baratza Encore is super easy and convenient to use. That being said, this was really great to watch and if I ever do buy a hand grinder, it will likely be this one.
I used an Encore, then moved to a Virtuoso before getting the JE-Plus. As good as the Baratzas are, when it comes to espresso and consistency in shots, it's no contest. I still use the Virtuoso for everything else...
Your reviews are ALWAYS satisfying. Thank you so much for what you do! As a Commandante owner, I'm very appreciative of the comparisons. I also have frustrations with adjusting my grinder, and wish it had am external adjuster like the J2. I go as far as to avoid pourovers @ home due to this annoyance, as adjusting for espresso is a big enough pain
@@aramse Of course despite having all those "well over 200" clicks, with the J-Max's external adjustment ring's visual rotation counter display, engraved visual numbers and engraved visual dots midpoint between each of the engraved numbers, there's really no need to ever have to start counting at the zero point (or even to return to it) when adjusting the grind, as you can re-set the external adjustment ring entirely visually from wherever you are, to within 5 clicks of your target setting - and therefore never need to actually "count" any more than just within those final five clicks. Brilliant design! (And, BTW, an excellent viedo review!)
Since some of your mentioned concerns deal with issues that may get worse with time, a 1 year followup would be great to see. Its very nice to see someone dive into the little details that might ruin the UX over longer usage.
I was dial-in this grinder with the Flair classic with pressure gauge, 160-170 it's the spot that you wanna try because 150 was clogging, and 175 have channeling, for reference: medium roast coffee 100% arábica, "Special coffee" and handcraft roasting process. By the way, truly beautiful, quality, and fantastic accessories 🤗
Excellent and thorough review! I got a J-Max a couple weeks ago and just like you all, I am super impressed. The user experience is great, the design is sleek, and the shots speak for themselves. Also agreed on my only minor gripe being more grind retention than I expected, but this in no way outweighs all the positives and the reasonable price point. Thanks for making such great videos!
Was looking at getting the j-max and after watching your video will definitely be buying this one, I have subscribed to your channel as it's obvious the hard work has been put in for your review, thanks guys , keep up the good work.
This is my first coffee grinder, and it, alongside Reddit caused me some confusion. I THINK I have figured out why. When the grinder is zero'd, there is 1 block on the little pyramid showing - not zero blocks. So if you set to, say '5' on the first rotation, that's 50 clicks, with 1 block showing. This means on the second circuit, when set to '5', you have done 140 clicks (90 in a ring, not 100), and there are 2 blocks showing, not 1. I suspect that sometimes, when people are talking about the settings for the grinder on Reddit, they might describe this setting as '250', because there are 2 blocks showing, and you are on the '5'. At first, I was making pour over at the setting that most people recommend, which was 270. So I looked up 270 on the 1zpresso chart, and this is shown as 3 full rotations (90 clicks per rotation) - which means 4 blocks visible (remember - 1 block is visible at the 0-0 setting, 2 show after 1 rotation, 3 show after two rotations, so after 3 rotations, four blocks are showing). So I had it set at the '0' register with 4 blocks showing - 270 clicks! I tried this and the V60 drained very quickly, the whole brew of 300ml taking less than 1 minute. Obviously the coffee was incredibly sour and under extracted. Instead, based on the assumption I made above, that by saying '270', people meant 2 blocks showing (only 1 rotation to get there), and pointing at the 7 - this is actually 160 clicks, instead of 270! The coffee I got from this was delicious. Very well extracted and well balanced, and the V60 took just over 3 minutes to drain fully. The fact that there are 90 clicks per rotation, and that 1 block is showing on the zeroth rotation really caused me some confusion!
Absolutely great review! (Subscribed!) Just recently bought the J-Max to use with my Gaggia Factory 106 "Tin Man" (essentially a rebadged La Pavoni Millennium lever espresso machine) and my new Picopresso. Among the many things I like about the J-Max is that the diameter of its magnetic bin is sized just right for the 51mm baskets of both the "Tin Man" and Picopresso. So, after grinding to fill the bin with ~18 grams of ground beans, I can just remove the bin from the J-Max, set the bin on the countertop, position either the Tin Man's or Picopresso's empty basket upside down centered over the open top of the bin (the bin's magnets help in positioning the basket), and while holding both the bin and basket together (again, the bin's magnets help in doing this, though I still do have to hold them together), I can just flip the pair over, gently tap the now-on-bottom underside of the basket on the counter top, remove the now upside-down bin from on top of the basket - and all the grounds are now nicely and neatly in the basket, ready for final distribution and tamping. Among its many other attributes, the J-Max is the perfect grinder for a 51mm basket size espresso machine!
Love your work, Ārāmse! Thorough reviews, very informative, gentle to the ears and eyes, and humorous (love the alter ego in the cutaways!). I arrived at your channel sometime ago courtesy of James Hoffman and your decolonisation of the flavour wheel video. Important stuff. Thanks, and keep 'em coming! 😊
Great review, very detailed, covering all the bases it seems. I don't think it's really necessary to clean grinders that often but some people do like to do that. I figure old coffee oils and particles get replaced by fresh coffee every time you use it. So it's kinda self-cleaning.
Tbh if you're using medium-light and light roasts you can get away cleaning once in 4 - 5 months, with darker, oiler beans I'd be more careful and clean every month or so.
The 1Zpresso FAQ recommends RDT against static. It goes on to say, to store it in a dry place as moisture can cause damage. So it's fine, just store it properly.
Woow! Awesome content! I'm really glad I saw this video when looking for J-Max reviews. Subbed! Really high quality content. Detailed review. The best demo of disassembly and calibration. Super informative and fun at the same time! Thanks and I hope your channel blows up with more subs!
Love the J Max, I've been using it every day for a few months now. The magnetic cup attachment is really nice, and the super precise, repeatable grind settings make it easy to dial in. I only wish it had a longer handle, the lighter roast beans can be pretty tough.
I kinda liked the K plus model and got it over the JX pro just because I liked how it was skinnier in the middle (the part you grip) vs the bottom and top, I thought it looked better that way. With grinders like the Commandante it's hard to grip if it's too wide. But that grip size is probably the same with the J series and K series most likely, or close to it anyway, not as fat as the Commandante. The addtional lip on this model is a nice touch. I've accidentally knocked the catch cup off on the K plus model, because it rubbed on my body or something while grinding and not really paying attention to how I was holding it. One flaw / down side of the K plus is there's a bunch of retention (or static?) so instead of all the grinds falling into the cup about 1g might stick to the top where the burrs are, it's obvious to see and can brush out but it's an extra step and a bit messy so not ideal. But not as bad as retention with electric grinders where there's coffee stuck in the burrs and chutes etc that you might not even be able to see or get to.
That's again an amazing review, good job! Your experience is in line with mine, I've been using the J-max with the Flair 58, V60 and fellow stagg x, and it's a joy to use. It's not super clean for pour-over, but definitely not muddy either. That outside adjustment is indeed fantastic in use, other systems really feel annoying in comparison.
@@aramse I agree, it's funny how grinders mix better with some equipment than others. Still, the J-max is probably the most versatile I have. We just went on a short holiday, took the Pro2 and Stagg X with us, and I left the K-plus at home and took the J-max with me. ;-)
@@aramse It's great for filter or 'modern espresso', I lovingly call it the "flavor magnifying wheel". I even use it for cupping coffees we might purchase or evaluate roast profiles. ;-)
Loving the channel, very cool content! A few days ago I purchased the J-Max to pair with my Flair 58. (both are due to arrive in a week or two). What would be the best setting to start with for medium-dark and lighter roasts? I would be using the normal low flow basket that the F58 comes with. As this would be my first grinder and machine of any kind, I really don't have an idea of how big of a difference really 1 click makes. Any tips on how to get/where to get started on this grinder would be very welcome! Thank you
Great video! I'm new to espresso and coffee so doing a lot of research on grinders. Having a bit of a tough time justifying spending 2x what I spent for my basic DeLonghi machine for a grinder - but as everyone has said the grind is most important. So at some point I'm going to have to just trust that or go the cheap route and wonder what may have been,
It is a lot of money and we went back and forth several times years ago when we were faced with the same choice. We even bought a cheap grinder, returned it and then got a Comandante. Best coffee purchase we've made till date! :) If it helps, there are people who use a $3000 grinder like the EG-1 with a $7 plastic V60. Your DeLonghi uses a cheap pump to add hot water to the coffee but your grinder is what makes of breaks that brew. We always tell people to spend like 90%+ of their budget on a grinder, it really is that important. :)
Thank you for the complete review. I consider buying one or two as I'd like one day to create a manual coffee corner (with manual espresso machines and AeroPress, V60...). Thanks for your videos.
You'll get a bit more sweetness and depth with the itamill burrs but the speed and workflow are so much better with the max that we'd only recommend the JE-Plus if you regularly drink straight espresso with medium light and light roasts.
Excellent thorough review! Thank you for pointing out something as simple as the arrow indicator(bricks) on the arrow for a quick measure. I am new to the manual grinder and pour over coffee world and have been going back and forth on whether to purchase the JMAX or the KPLUS as I will be using the device equally for espresso & pour overs with a V60 & Aeropress. Any advice is greatly appreciated ;)
Hey thank you. We haven't tried the K-Plus yet but have heard great things about it from people we trust. The JMAX is an excellent all rounder that really excels at espresso and the K-Plus is an excellent all rounder that excels at pourover. It can definitely do espresso but the larger clicks means it'll be harder to dial in. There is a price difference, so depending on your budget and what you value more between pourover and espresso you should be able to pick between the two.
I bought JPpro. I thought the magnet type would be better because the screws would get powdered. If you have a dryer, wash the cylinder with water and immediately dry it with a dryer. Since the stainless steel material is the same as a knife, it has some corrosion resistance.
amazing review guys! im happy with my comandante + red clix, but the price point of this one is extremely attractive. and the ability to take it apart and clean it properly, is a big plus. can i know, for you guys and basis the coffee youre using, which of the 2 grinders gave you better shots on the flair?
Hey there, so if we had to pick purely based on taste and nothing else then we'd pick the Comandante which just has a tad more clarity and tends to highlight individual flavours a little better. If you also take workflow into account then hands down the J-Max wins. It's much quicker to grind, easier to dial in and the shots are delicious too.
Do you also have that consistency chart you used regarding boulders, mids and fines for the JX-pro? Because im doubting between the j-max and the jx-pro. Would really appreciate it and keep up the good work!
Bahut achhe! Thanks for the video! What are your thoughts on comandante with red clix with medium roasts for milky drinks, soy milk mainly. I'm not sure whether to go for kinu m47 or J-max or comandante?
J max is great for more traditional shots that highlight the chocolate, caramel and nutty notes. Comandante will highlight the acidity and more subtle fruity and floral notes. The Kinu we’re yet to try but from what we’ve heard and how the burrs look you’ll get something in between the too but closer to the j max and smoother. Hope that helps.
@@ayex86, query - do you use your grinder(s) for a range of coffee types rather than just for espresso - and if so, would your opinion still be the same if you always used your grinder(s) exclusively for espresso?
Honestly this looks tempting to finally upgrade my Hario Slim after about 8 years, which is performing surprisingly well with my Cafelat Robot with a locking nut modification but definitely grinds very slowly (about 2-4 minutes for a single shot depending on how fine I need, how light the roast, and how fast I fatigue). I was ultimately planning to get something like a Niche but I honestly like the 100% manual workflow and the smaller footprint and I only make 2 espressos a day typically. Would love to hear how it compares in grind quality to some of those decent electric grinders because this looks fast enough to make the occasional extra espresso if I have company without breaking the bank too much
Oh please do yourself a favor and try something like an 1zpresso, I used to use Harios before I had any idea that there were better tasting and easier things to use. In hindsight the lack of stabilizer in Hario gave me a grind consistency not much better than a spice grinder. I would buy the JX-Pro again in a heartbeat, 30 grams in ~30 seconds for filter grind without a sweat, or 18g medium to dark beans in ~60 secs with not much work for espresso grind. Light beans will always be work but tilting on the side for slow feed makes it ten times easier, and it will feel 100 times butterier to use over the Hario due to the metal teeth and quality bearings. I have heard from many users who own multiple grinders that the taste of Niche is indistinguishable from the JX-Pro or other models. It sounds like you will only find taste differences versus more expensive flat burrs.
We love the manual workflow too and switching from the Slim, be prepared to have your mind blown! Haha. You can't go wrong with either the JX-PRO or the J-Max for 2 to 4 shots a day. The Niche is great but it is over double the price, has a larger footprint, needs electricity and is a LOT harder to get a hold of. :)
@@LastAphelion not that it's relevant to you anymore but for those on an extreme budget you can definitely hack more stability into the Hario with a little tape around the inner shaft and the fixed burr. That plus the nyloc nut have given me decent consistency at a given grind setting but it's not easily repeatable when switching between settings aside from knowing that 1/4 turn of a socket wrench is about the same as a single click on the original nut.
@@aramse the Niche is 4x the cost of shipping the JMax to my door so I am pretty sure the grind speed is making it seem like a very solid choice once I can afford the upgrade and probably nudges it ahead of something like the Chestnut X.
Just discovered you. On point review. No padding. Subscription earned in 2 minutes. I have a sage Barista express with built in grinder. I’m assuming this will be an upgrade on that grinder and on a par with a sage smart grinder which is a similar price. Welcome your thoughts.
Hey thanks so much for watching and subscribing. And yes this will absolutely give you a better grind distribution than the built in grinder and the smart. The general thumb rule is that a hand grinder of a particular price will outperform any electric grinder in the same price bracket and in many cases, ones that are more expensive even.
Hi! thanks for the video! exactly what i was looking for! Just a couple of questions: 1) The issue with the particles ending up inside the lubricated ring... isn't that a serious issue? how is one supposed to clean it if there's grease? Are the other grinders exposed like this? 2) How do you think the J max compares with the other high end grinders? :) like M47, etc etc.? which do you reckon is the best overall for espresso? :)
The ring isn't lubricated. The coffee particles fall out when you blow it then brush out with the supplied brush. I use a small pastry brush. This cleaning after every use takes 30 seconds and leaves your grinder spotless inside.
@@kungfutigerrob But at 08:15 he clearly states there is lubricant on the threads (i was referring to that) and particles build up over time...? if that's true it's like a total turn off, never heard of a grinder with lubricant inside so far and would never buy one 😅
Here's some follow up information:
1) You can tilt the grinder to make it easier to grind. This is especially helpful with lighter roasts. We haven't had the time to check how this affects the particle distribution but we'll update this space once we get around to testing this.
2) 1ZPresso have confirmed that the build up in the threads will not cause any jamming issues. We still recommend you brush and blow out the threads after every few uses.
Did they give any info on the spraying the beans with water with this grinder?
@@liamwade3483 I always wet my beans for my K pro. No issues so far 6 months in.
Great review, and good follow up.
I've had my J- max for a month and can confirm that two techniques I use for easier grinding have no real effect on the grind quality, not even one click needed to compensate. One method, as you mention, is tilting to reduce the bean feed rate - this really makes lighter roasts easier to grind. Tilting almost horizontal doesn't affect the grind quality either. The other technique is speed. If you crank fast enough, you grind fewer beans at a time and the torque needed is much less. I mix and match speed and tilt.
As for retention, I'd say around 0.8g with no taps, half that in normal practice, but well under 0.1g with RDT. 1zpresso actually recommend a few drops of water shaken with the beans, which is what I do. Weigh beans in a small container, drip 4-5 drops of water on, cover with my palm and shake, before tipping into the grinder. Much of the water remains on your palm, or on the shot glass you weigh the beans in, but still makes a world of difference - basically zero retention.
You should try the cordless screwdriver method too. 1zspresso recommend this too, and the 1/4" hex shaft is made for it, but so far I haven't felt the need, this grinder being so easy to dial for espresso..
I have J-max & Comandante -> I Prefer Comandante if I need to choose between them.
@@ayex86 from a UX, convenience or grind performance/taste perspective? For espresso, filter/aero or both? I don't own a Commandante but have borrowed one on occasion (a MK3 I think and without the red clix) and even after getting over the glass grinds bin (no, just no!) I find the whole experience far from satisfactory especially at the price point. The 1zpresso range, to my mind at any rate, offers equivalent grind performance packaged much more attractively and while I can't say I prefer espressos from my J-Max to the Commandante they are at least no worse.
I have had this grinder for 12 months. Used it every day, to make espresso with my Cafelat robot. It's truly excellent.
Worth mentioning that the grinds bin weighs EXACTLY 100 grams so if you forget to zero/tare your scale before weighing its not really an issue.
That's useful. Thanks for sharing.
That's really great and helpful to know. Thanks for the info!
Ah mine seems to be 104 grams
Mine is 99.3g
@@derekmherron wow that's really weird. I just got a scale that shows decimals. It's 104.5. What a weird inconsistency. Do you use the J-max?
The pyramid grind size indicator is pretty genius, a lot of grinders have that issue (Eureka / Niche Zero etc). A lot of people who review this grinder may not even know of that lol.
Yeah we loved that too and we're suckers for detail so we really scrutinised this grinder before reviewing it :)
I’m absolutely loving my J-Max. Bought It the day It was released and couldn’t be happier.
I'm really getting to love this channel more and more. Not only the superb quality of both video and the content inteself, but the topics you cover are really doing it for me. And the sketches in between ofc :DD You deserve much greater audiance, good job!
Thank you so much!
Best coffee channel on UA-cam. Change my mind.
That Title B-roll was absolutely exquisite!
You guys have come a long way and I love it.
Fantastic video as always!
Well done buddy!
Hey Hoon thanks for stopping by! Thank you for the regular live streams, its a great way to stay up to date with what's new in the coffee gadget world. :)
I've been using a 1Zpresso K-Pro for around 3 months, and I can't be happier. I love this Taiwanese hand grinder brand! I can't stop watching your channel. You're a constant inspiration :)
Thanks so much! Yes 1Zpresso are doing great things in this space. The K-Pro is excellent.
really good comment about how to re-zero. You have to recalibrate so the the grinder LOCKS at zero. My J-max came with bad assembly so 120 click grind gave me pour-over size and re-zero will never lock the grinder. Your video helped me find the flaw and I was able to fix it!
this channel is so fire. I don't know why you only have 10k subs. Thank you for the detailed information that isn't just reading out the spec section of their website, I actually really appreciate that.
I bought this to accompany my Picopresso, and have been thoroughly impressed by the espresso shots I get. Now use it to grind beans for use with my Gaggia Classic Pro.
The production quality is 🔥
Thanks!
Bloody heck. This is the first video where the revolution indicator is even mentioned. Liked and subscribed.
Greatest review of the J-Max I've seen - Very thorough.
The B roll gags earned my subscription, though. Ha ha! Good stuff!
Haha thanks for watching and thanks for the sub!
Thank you for reviewing this and making me feel great for picking it out. And thank u for showing how to calibrate it! I thought i calibrated it before but knew something was way off!
The J-Max is due to arrive in today's post. I was hoping I made the right choice. You're fine review says I did. I appreciate this well done appraisal.
I've had a 1Zpresso JE-Plus for 2-1/2 years and I have zero regrets! It's been a superb grinder that has never failed me! I use it daily and it simply does its job! I make espresso shots so I grind fine for my preferred medium roast beans. As far as I can tell the JE-Plus is the predecessor to the J-Max which has some nice upgrades. I would love to upgrade but my current grinder still works good as new! I'm a big proponent on not fixing that which isn't broken so I'll keep going with my current grinder until such time as it breaks, if ever!
Love the video guys. One of the best review videos I've seen on the grinder so far.
The video not only included your experience with the grinder, but more importantly some usage tips and potential issues to be wary of is an absolute win in my book. Consumers want to also know what it will be like to live with and how a product performs, with many reviewers only focusing on the latter.
Just discovered your channel, and will definitely be watching each and every video! "We want to create useful, actionable content as opposed to surface level reviews" is a great principle to have and it definitely shows.
Any chance you'll review the K-plus and do a comparison soon?
Hey thanks so much! We’d love to review the K-plus. Maybe soon.
This is such a great review. No fuss, straight to the point, without compromising on detail. So happy to have found your channel
I've been looking into a manual grinder (hurricane season is here, and power outages are inevitable) and this is a damn nice looking one. Thanks for the review!
This grinder has been part of my daily morning coffee for a year now, and I'm a very happy user.
I do agree that for lighter roasts, turning the crank can sometimes be hard. I've found two tricks are helping here. Number one: use the supplied rubber band, put it as far up on the grinder body as possible, close to the adjustment ring. Number two: hold the grinder in your right hand (if you're right-handed, else reverse), the crank knob in your left, and use the motions of both arms by making the hands orbit each other.
I’ve only watched 2 reviews from your site. This one and the nanofoamer and I could say that from all the reviews that I have watched with regards to those 2 products; yours is the best bar none. You have a new subscriber! Keep it up!
Thanks so much for this comment and for subscribing.
I’ve been using the e series. Since I’ve been grinding light roasts for the flair, it takes so much more arm work! That’s why I love the technology of using an electric screw driver to attach to the grinder. I believe it works in all of their products. I didn’t need an upgrade until now haha. 1zpresso feels like the apple of all grinders. Sick one!
Thank you for mentioning the exposed top inner thread. I used K-Plus as my daily driver for more than 2 years. Towards the end the coffee built up inside those inner thread has somewhat damaged the adjustment mechanism. It can still be used for sure, but the adjustment ring can slightly rotate between clicks. Admittedly, I don't deep clean my grinder that often (probably once every other month) but I don't see how constant cleaning could prevent that seeing that the inner thread is a pretty inaccessible spot and the lubricant makes it hard to blow it with the included blower.
This was a phenomenal video. Great work
Thank you!
Best and most thorough review of this product that I’ve encountered so far. Thanks!
Happy to report that I've ordered one of these grinders this morning, in part based on your review. I did find it to be, as you say "actionable content". I just haven't seen many other grinders with a grind setting that can be so easily repeatably indexed. The settings are even easily shared, as you could go onto a community forum and ask what setting people like to use for a particular brew method or even a specific machine, and get answers back in the #-#-# format that you can reproduce. That along with the ease of breakdown and an accessory pack that costs extra for the JX-pro, 1Zpresso's other darling grinder. It just seems like a real all around winner.
Hey congrats on the new grinder! It is a great all-rounder and probably has the best workflow of any hand grinder available today.
@@aramse I hope so for sure. Just starting out in espresso and picked out a Uniterra Nomad for the brewing device. They seem to be a lot more obscure than the Flair for non-powered espresso making, but everything I've found about them suggests they can do it well.
SIR! you're the only indian who's THIS good of a coffee enthusiast, Can you please do a 'coffee review' of the ones sold in the Indian market?
Hi! For retention on my JX-Pro I dip a teaspoon in water, shake off the excess and stir the beans in the catch cup before grinding. I don't think that this tiny amount of water would hurt the grinder. I also tap the sides of the grinder after grinding. I get very little retention.
Great video!
Hey thanks for watching. Yes we mention RDT at 8:57 and it works really well but we can't recommend it to people when the company says to avoid water. So you'd be doing this at your own risk.
1zpeesso only say avoid water for cleaning. Sure, too much water would be trapped and would be a bad idea. But RDT beans do not leave the grinder moist.
1zpresso actually recommend a few drops water on the beans - see their FAQ
@@ylleKkcirtaPnadnerB If it can handle the humidity of Taiwan it should be able to handle RDT, that's only about 0.1g of water (I RDT on the scale) so on 20g that's 0.5% humidity on top of what's in the beans, which should be like 10%. So RDT is negligable.
Thank you for the brief in depth great review with a bit of humour 😋
Man, this is such a great review! thank you for it
Man... just two days ago I was leaning (again) towards the Commandante as my first proper grinder purchase, and here you are reminding me that 1ZPresso has stepped up the game - several times - since the Commandante's debut.
Well the Comandante is a stellar grinder and still sits at the top when you look purely at the results in the cup. If you primarily do filter or other brewed coffee and the occasional espresso then definitely get the Comandante. If you do a lot of espresso, you'd still be happy with the results in the cup but the workflow and grind time can get quite frustrating and this is where the J-Max shines.
I’ve been using it for a month now and I love it. I mostly use it for espresso, medium and dark roasts. I love the fine adjustments I can make and overall everything else about. No negatives yet. It works great, super easy to use and clean, and the adjustment ring is sweet!
What setting do you use for a medium roast? Thanks
This is one of the best reviews I've seen on this grinder. Thanks!
This is the first video of yours/theirs I've watched fully. What a great channel! Earned my Sub!
i have used mine usually twice per day for 1.5 years and I have not had an issue with the threads on the top.
Thank you for making this great video I have been thinking about getting me a nice manual grinder for a while and have watched a lot of videos but this one of yours seems to be the most convincing one of all, and I subscribed to your Channel because of this video.
Thank you for this wonderful video! I do not think I would ever use a hand grinder because I am definitely too much of a zombie in the mornings, but also because my Baratza Encore is super easy and convenient to use. That being said, this was really great to watch and if I ever do buy a hand grinder, it will likely be this one.
I used an Encore, then moved to a Virtuoso before getting the JE-Plus. As good as the Baratzas are, when it comes to espresso and consistency in shots, it's no contest. I still use the Virtuoso for everything else...
Great content on this channel.
Keep up the good work!
The most detailed J-max video, thank you so much!
Great video. Might have just helped me pick a new grinder. Thanks.
Your reviews are ALWAYS satisfying. Thank you so much for what you do! As a Commandante owner, I'm very appreciative of the comparisons. I also have frustrations with adjusting my grinder, and wish it had am external adjuster like the J2. I go as far as to avoid pourovers @ home due to this annoyance, as adjusting for espresso is a big enough pain
Luckily the Comandante is just 40 clicks or so even with the red clix. This one is well over 200. Haha.
@@aramse okay, that makes me feel a bit better. Thank you 👍👍 I just struggle with counting to 40...
@@aramse Of course despite having all those "well over 200" clicks, with the J-Max's external adjustment ring's visual rotation counter display, engraved visual numbers and engraved visual dots midpoint between each of the engraved numbers, there's really no need to ever have to start counting at the zero point (or even to return to it) when adjusting the grind, as you can re-set the external adjustment ring entirely visually from wherever you are, to within 5 clicks of your target setting - and therefore never need to actually "count" any more than just within those final five clicks. Brilliant design! (And, BTW, an excellent viedo review!)
Since some of your mentioned concerns deal with issues that may get worse with time, a 1 year followup would be great to see. Its very nice to see someone dive into the little details that might ruin the UX over longer usage.
This is a great channel, very professional but likable presenter
I was dial-in this grinder with the Flair classic with pressure gauge, 160-170 it's the spot that you wanna try because 150 was clogging, and 175 have channeling, for reference: medium roast coffee 100% arábica, "Special coffee" and handcraft roasting process. By the way, truly beautiful, quality, and fantastic accessories 🤗
Wow what an incredibly thorough review! Very impressed with the quality of this channel. It’s clear you guys really know your stuff
Thank you!
Excellent and thorough review! I got a J-Max a couple weeks ago and just like you all, I am super impressed. The user experience is great, the design is sleek, and the shots speak for themselves. Also agreed on my only minor gripe being more grind retention than I expected, but this in no way outweighs all the positives and the reasonable price point. Thanks for making such great videos!
Thanks for the transparency on the giveaway by 1Zpresso.
Was looking at getting the j-max and after watching your video will definitely be buying this one, I have subscribed to your channel as it's obvious the hard work has been put in for your review, thanks guys , keep up the good work.
Great video - entertaining & informative! 😄 This is the best video I found on the J-Max.
This is my first coffee grinder, and it, alongside Reddit caused me some confusion. I THINK I have figured out why.
When the grinder is zero'd, there is 1 block on the little pyramid showing - not zero blocks. So if you set to, say '5' on the first rotation, that's 50 clicks, with 1 block showing.
This means on the second circuit, when set to '5', you have done 140 clicks (90 in a ring, not 100), and there are 2 blocks showing, not 1.
I suspect that sometimes, when people are talking about the settings for the grinder on Reddit, they might describe this setting as '250', because there are 2 blocks showing, and you are on the '5'.
At first, I was making pour over at the setting that most people recommend, which was 270. So I looked up 270 on the 1zpresso chart, and this is shown as 3 full rotations (90 clicks per rotation) - which means 4 blocks visible (remember - 1 block is visible at the 0-0 setting, 2 show after 1 rotation, 3 show after two rotations, so after 3 rotations, four blocks are showing). So I had it set at the '0' register with 4 blocks showing - 270 clicks!
I tried this and the V60 drained very quickly, the whole brew of 300ml taking less than 1 minute. Obviously the coffee was incredibly sour and under extracted.
Instead, based on the assumption I made above, that by saying '270', people meant 2 blocks showing (only 1 rotation to get there), and pointing at the 7 - this is actually 160 clicks, instead of 270!
The coffee I got from this was delicious. Very well extracted and well balanced, and the V60 took just over 3 minutes to drain fully.
The fact that there are 90 clicks per rotation, and that 1 block is showing on the zeroth rotation really caused me some confusion!
@phillewis3108 thanks for sharing the click guide 😊. Could you also suggest the settings for aeropress & French press please
This channel definitely deserves more subscribers.
Absolutely great review! (Subscribed!) Just recently bought the J-Max to use with my Gaggia Factory 106 "Tin Man" (essentially a rebadged La Pavoni Millennium lever espresso machine) and my new Picopresso. Among the many things I like about the J-Max is that the diameter of its magnetic bin is sized just right for the 51mm baskets of both the "Tin Man" and Picopresso. So, after grinding to fill the bin with ~18 grams of ground beans, I can just remove the bin from the J-Max, set the bin on the countertop, position either the Tin Man's or Picopresso's empty basket upside down centered over the open top of the bin (the bin's magnets help in positioning the basket), and while holding both the bin and basket together (again, the bin's magnets help in doing this, though I still do have to hold them together), I can just flip the pair over, gently tap the now-on-bottom underside of the basket on the counter top, remove the now upside-down bin from on top of the basket - and all the grounds are now nicely and neatly in the basket, ready for final distribution and tamping. Among its many other attributes, the J-Max is the perfect grinder for a 51mm basket size espresso machine!
Absolutely great video. Very through and helped me learn a lot. Keep up the great work.
One minute into this video and already subscribed, amazing production
Much appreciated!
Love your work, Ārāmse! Thorough reviews, very informative, gentle to the ears and eyes, and humorous (love the alter ego in the cutaways!). I arrived at your channel sometime ago courtesy of James Hoffman and your decolonisation of the flavour wheel video. Important stuff. Thanks, and keep 'em coming! 😊
Frenzy mode got me, I'll sub for that 😂
Very thorough review.....thanks!
Great review, very detailed, covering all the bases it seems. I don't think it's really necessary to clean grinders that often but some people do like to do that. I figure old coffee oils and particles get replaced by fresh coffee every time you use it. So it's kinda self-cleaning.
Tbh if you're using medium-light and light roasts you can get away cleaning once in 4 - 5 months, with darker, oiler beans I'd be more careful and clean every month or so.
The 1Zpresso FAQ recommends RDT against static. It goes on to say, to store it in a dry place as moisture can cause damage. So it's fine, just store it properly.
I really hope they make either a version with JS burrs or, like you said, a burr change kit.
We'd be very surprised if they didn't offer alternative burrs. This design choice seems very intentional. :)
Have this. Great grinder. Only the wooden knob has come loose which is a shmuck for such a nice grinder
Woow! Awesome content! I'm really glad I saw this video when looking for J-Max reviews. Subbed!
Really high quality content. Detailed review. The best demo of disassembly and calibration.
Super informative and fun at the same time! Thanks and I hope your channel blows up with more subs!
Hey thanks so much and thanks for the sub.
Nice review. Keep up the great work 👌🏻
Love the J Max, I've been using it every day for a few months now. The magnetic cup attachment is really nice, and the super precise, repeatable grind settings make it easy to dial in. I only wish it had a longer handle, the lighter roast beans can be pretty tough.
Rotation comparison is genius
I kinda liked the K plus model and got it over the JX pro just because I liked how it was skinnier in the middle (the part you grip) vs the bottom and top, I thought it looked better that way. With grinders like the Commandante it's hard to grip if it's too wide. But that grip size is probably the same with the J series and K series most likely, or close to it anyway, not as fat as the Commandante.
The addtional lip on this model is a nice touch. I've accidentally knocked the catch cup off on the K plus model, because it rubbed on my body or something while grinding and not really paying attention to how I was holding it.
One flaw / down side of the K plus is there's a bunch of retention (or static?) so instead of all the grinds falling into the cup about 1g might stick to the top where the burrs are, it's obvious to see and can brush out but it's an extra step and a bit messy so not ideal. But not as bad as retention with electric grinders where there's coffee stuck in the burrs and chutes etc that you might not even be able to see or get to.
Thx for this video. Really helpful.
Comprehensive review! Thanks guys!
This is a great review thanks
That's again an amazing review, good job!
Your experience is in line with mine, I've been using the J-max with the Flair 58, V60 and fellow stagg x, and it's a joy to use.
It's not super clean for pour-over, but definitely not muddy either.
That outside adjustment is indeed fantastic in use, other systems really feel annoying in comparison.
Thank for watching and leaving a comment Dany. We've actually preferred the Stagg X brews with this grinder a little more than the V60 :)
@@aramse I agree, it's funny how grinders mix better with some equipment than others. Still, the J-max is probably the most versatile I have. We just went on a short holiday, took the Pro2 and Stagg X with us, and I left the K-plus at home and took the J-max with me. ;-)
@@danymeeuwissen5973 totally agree. It’s super versatile. Would love to try the K-plus out. Heard a lot of good things :)
@@aramse It's great for filter or 'modern espresso', I lovingly call it the "flavor magnifying wheel". I even use it for cupping coffees we might purchase or evaluate roast profiles. ;-)
What setting did you use for medium fine V60 ( James Hoffman V60 for example)?
refreshingly good review! thank you!
Insane video content and quality considering your sub count. Kudos and I wish you great success!
Thank you!
Amazing review and break down!! Hope to see more head to heads in the future... what other grinders do you have?
I love this channel. Great review!
Thank you!
You did a good job! Keep it up! \m/
Loving the channel, very cool content!
A few days ago I purchased the J-Max to pair with my Flair 58. (both are due to arrive in a week or two).
What would be the best setting to start with for medium-dark and lighter roasts? I would be using the normal low flow basket that the F58 comes with. As this would be my first grinder and machine of any kind, I really don't have an idea of how big of a difference really 1 click makes. Any tips on how to get/where to get started on this grinder would be very welcome! Thank you
Great video! I'm new to espresso and coffee so doing a lot of research on grinders. Having a bit of a tough time justifying spending 2x what I spent for my basic DeLonghi machine for a grinder - but as everyone has said the grind is most important. So at some point I'm going to have to just trust that or go the cheap route and wonder what may have been,
It is a lot of money and we went back and forth several times years ago when we were faced with the same choice. We even bought a cheap grinder, returned it and then got a Comandante. Best coffee purchase we've made till date! :) If it helps, there are people who use a $3000 grinder like the EG-1 with a $7 plastic V60. Your DeLonghi uses a cheap pump to add hot water to the coffee but your grinder is what makes of breaks that brew. We always tell people to spend like 90%+ of their budget on a grinder, it really is that important. :)
Thank you for the complete review. I consider buying one or two as I'd like one day to create a manual coffee corner (with manual espresso machines and AeroPress, V60...). Thanks for your videos.
How about J Max vs JE Plus? Compare about the taste of espresso.. Is Italmill burr from JE plus make a big difference?
You'll get a bit more sweetness and depth with the itamill burrs but the speed and workflow are so much better with the max that we'd only recommend the JE-Plus if you regularly drink straight espresso with medium light and light roasts.
@@aramse thank you..=)
Great videos. You rock buddy!
Excellent thorough review! Thank you for pointing out something as simple as the arrow indicator(bricks) on the arrow for a quick measure. I am new to the manual grinder and pour over coffee world and have been going back and forth on whether to purchase the JMAX or the KPLUS as I will be using the device equally for espresso & pour overs with a V60 & Aeropress. Any advice is greatly appreciated ;)
Hey thank you. We haven't tried the K-Plus yet but have heard great things about it from people we trust. The JMAX is an excellent all rounder that really excels at espresso and the K-Plus is an excellent all rounder that excels at pourover. It can definitely do espresso but the larger clicks means it'll be harder to dial in. There is a price difference, so depending on your budget and what you value more between pourover and espresso you should be able to pick between the two.
Great review👍
What a great review, thank you.
I bought JPpro. I thought the magnet type would be better because the screws would get powdered. If you have a dryer, wash the cylinder with water and immediately dry it with a dryer. Since the stainless steel material is the same as a knife, it has some corrosion resistance.
Great review, I love this grinder to brew my shots with Bialetti Brikka.
amazing review guys! im happy with my comandante + red clix, but the price point of this one is extremely attractive. and the ability to take it apart and clean it properly, is a big plus. can i know, for you guys and basis the coffee youre using, which of the 2 grinders gave you better shots on the flair?
Hey there, so if we had to pick purely based on taste and nothing else then we'd pick the Comandante which just has a tad more clarity and tends to highlight individual flavours a little better. If you also take workflow into account then hands down the J-Max wins. It's much quicker to grind, easier to dial in and the shots are delicious too.
Hey great review and channel!
Do you also have that consistency chart you used regarding boulders, mids and fines for the JX-pro?
Because im doubting between the j-max and the jx-pro.
Would really appreciate it and keep up the good work!
Hey, we don't currently have access to a JX-PRO to do those these test but hopefully soon, if we can get our hands on one.
The J-Max is on sale on their website ($149-159) as of April 22, 2023. Get one like I did!
Fantastic video - thank you!
Bahut achhe! Thanks for the video! What are your thoughts on comandante with red clix with medium roasts for milky drinks, soy milk mainly.
I'm not sure whether to go for kinu m47 or J-max or comandante?
J max is great for more traditional shots that highlight the chocolate, caramel and nutty notes. Comandante will highlight the acidity and more subtle fruity and floral notes. The Kinu we’re yet to try but from what we’ve heard and how the burrs look you’ll get something in between the too but closer to the j max and smoother. Hope that helps.
Really useful review.
I have Comandante Mk4 & 1ZPresso J-Max. If I have to choose 1 between them - Comandante every time.
@@ayex86, query - do you use your grinder(s) for a range of coffee types rather than just for espresso - and if so, would your opinion still be the same if you always used your grinder(s) exclusively for espresso?
great video! love to see your review on the ZP6 compared to the JMAX.
Honestly this looks tempting to finally upgrade my Hario Slim after about 8 years, which is performing surprisingly well with my Cafelat Robot with a locking nut modification but definitely grinds very slowly (about 2-4 minutes for a single shot depending on how fine I need, how light the roast, and how fast I fatigue).
I was ultimately planning to get something like a Niche but I honestly like the 100% manual workflow and the smaller footprint and I only make 2 espressos a day typically. Would love to hear how it compares in grind quality to some of those decent electric grinders because this looks fast enough to make the occasional extra espresso if I have company without breaking the bank too much
Oh please do yourself a favor and try something like an 1zpresso, I used to use Harios before I had any idea that there were better tasting and easier things to use. In hindsight the lack of stabilizer in Hario gave me a grind consistency not much better than a spice grinder. I would buy the JX-Pro again in a heartbeat, 30 grams in ~30 seconds for filter grind without a sweat, or 18g medium to dark beans in ~60 secs with not much work for espresso grind. Light beans will always be work but tilting on the side for slow feed makes it ten times easier, and it will feel 100 times butterier to use over the Hario due to the metal teeth and quality bearings. I have heard from many users who own multiple grinders that the taste of Niche is indistinguishable from the JX-Pro or other models. It sounds like you will only find taste differences versus more expensive flat burrs.
We love the manual workflow too and switching from the Slim, be prepared to have your mind blown! Haha. You can't go wrong with either the JX-PRO or the J-Max for 2 to 4 shots a day. The Niche is great but it is over double the price, has a larger footprint, needs electricity and is a LOT harder to get a hold of. :)
After 8 years with a Hario, you deserve the J-Max or JX-Pro! Hell, I think I deserved one after 5 weeks 😅
@@LastAphelion not that it's relevant to you anymore but for those on an extreme budget you can definitely hack more stability into the Hario with a little tape around the inner shaft and the fixed burr. That plus the nyloc nut have given me decent consistency at a given grind setting but it's not easily repeatable when switching between settings aside from knowing that 1/4 turn of a socket wrench is about the same as a single click on the original nut.
@@aramse the Niche is 4x the cost of shipping the JMax to my door so I am pretty sure the grind speed is making it seem like a very solid choice once I can afford the upgrade and probably nudges it ahead of something like the Chestnut X.
Just discovered you. On point review. No padding. Subscription earned in 2 minutes. I have a sage Barista express with built in grinder. I’m assuming this will be an upgrade on that grinder and on a par with a sage smart grinder which is a similar price. Welcome your thoughts.
Hey thanks so much for watching and subscribing. And yes this will absolutely give you a better grind distribution than the built in grinder and the smart. The general thumb rule is that a hand grinder of a particular price will outperform any electric grinder in the same price bracket and in many cases, ones that are more expensive even.
@@aramse that is such a surprise. I don’t have much space so another reason to go manual. Thanks for the quick response
Hi! thanks for the video! exactly what i was looking for!
Just a couple of questions:
1) The issue with the particles ending up inside the lubricated ring... isn't that a serious issue? how is one supposed to clean it if there's grease? Are the other grinders exposed like this?
2) How do you think the J max compares with the other high end grinders? :) like M47, etc etc.? which do you reckon is the best overall for espresso? :)
The ring isn't lubricated. The coffee particles fall out when you blow it then brush out with the supplied brush. I use a small pastry brush. This cleaning after every use takes 30 seconds and leaves your grinder spotless inside.
@@kungfutigerrob But at 08:15 he clearly states there is lubricant on the threads (i was referring to that) and particles build up over time...? if that's true it's like a total turn off, never heard of a grinder with lubricant inside so far and would never buy one 😅
@@kungfutigerrob ?
@@Matzumotto 🤷🏽♂️
The upper adjustment ring is lubricated, but there should be no grinds near that. Only put clean beans in the top and there will be no issue at all
waiting for my j-max to arrive, would be using it mainly for espresso. keeping my C40 for pour over =)