Raid on the Underworld - Odin, Gwydion & Otherworldly Adventures
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2022
- Across Europe are various tales of gods and heroes entering the underworld. Often this is to obtain knowledge, power, or a woman. Some of these myths, such as Odin and Gwydion, are summarized, discussed and compared.
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I’m surprised Libraries don’t have more of a underworld motif; because like Odin you are raiding the dwelling place of dead men for their knowledge.
Ohh I like it.
Libraries class as a liminal space imo. They represent the gap between ignorance and wisdom physically and symbolically.
@@jackmac2217 yeah nice perspective Jack . . .
Libraries liminnal spaces . . .
Librarians guardians of sacred . . .
This is a great comment!!!!
Well said, sir!
The motif survived Christianisation briefly while the harrowing of Hell was canon
Currently writing a story with the major motif being this exact topic! thank you for this informative inspiration :)
The Hellenic Underworld is most fascinating to me... The Greeks have many interesting Myths regarding it!
makes my day too
Do you think you might be able to do a documentary of Kerununnos / Cerununnos / The Horned God Of The Hunt?
I would absolutely adore that - see what you’ve discovered in regards to research and information 🖤🖤
Always makes my day when a new FoL documentary drops!
same for me
Thank you so much for your most compelling video Kevin 🌹😎🌻🧙♂️
You and jive keep making all these great vids. But they're so packed with info I have to keep rewinding!
Not so crazy about jive, he's to narrow minded and not at all open to different interpretations...
Ditto
And, yes, StJ is an amazing channel.
This Channel just gets better and I have been here from the start
You're very brave having a go at all that Welsh. Kudos.
Another amazing, information packed offering!
Thank you for telling the stories of our ancestors and keeping them alive for current and future generations!
Thank you for doing these videos. I love your voice and I hear the way you pronounce names and places when I do my own research into this now. Thank you for being so through..
Video was, as always, well made and insightful. Well researched and entertaining. This channel and Jive are my two favorite channels that cover these topics. Love that you go in depth and present factual history as well as your own interpretations. Very entertaining. Hope to see more soon.
I really like your content, and you made my day by posting this!
Another well thought out piece of work here. Thank you for the upload.
Great video, all of your videos help to grasp mythic concepts that we definitely need to hear much more of in this age
What you overlooked about the legend of pwyll is that there are many, many tales in many, many cultures involving raids or theft from the otherworld.
Pwyll is fairly unique in that he doesn't steal anything or sleep with arawns wife during his stint stuck in annwfn.
So impressed was arawn with pwylls honor that he lifted the curse(blight) on the land and named pwyll and his descendents the chosen people of the island of mighty(Briton/prydain).
I truly look forward to these. Years ago I depleted our local Library's books on this stuff.
Thank you so much for this!! Deeply illuminating… just need to figure out how to apply this in my everyday mundane life! ❤️🔥✨
no need to apply my dear one . . .
Our mundane lives are a wonder for us all to experience.
All required is to click heels together three times like Dorothy in Wizard of Oz
and you are home happlily living in mundane world once again.
Perhaps it's a call for you to spice up your life a little. Get out there and try something new?
Love it! Thanks!
i found this refreshing, everyone speaks of the underworld kings the Tu atha, but noone ever talks of the kings of the over world, sons of Mil..
This was great! Thank you for your time!
another very inspirational video
On this topic I highly recommend looking into the Medieval Welsh "Preiddeu Annwn" or "Spoils of the Underworld". It's a cryptic Taliesin poem about King Arthur raiding the otherworld, with only 7 men surviving.
Yes I know it. I should have mentioned it
Any link as to where I can read it?
I love that you used monty python as one of the opening segments.
My favorite, of course, is Hermóðr. A lot of people overlook how brave and powerful he is. A son of Óðinn and messenger of the gods, he rode Sleipnir to the underworld on behalf of himself and all of the gods in order to compel the Jotunn goddess of death, Hel, to release his brother, Baldr. Balls.
Hermóðr may be Óðr. Óðr is the Egill and Gróa. Óðr was sent to Hel to urge Urðr to release Baldr from Breiðablik. Urðr also known as Hel (Snorri conflates her with Leikn) will only let Baldr return if everyone wept for him. Thökk (Loki disguised as a giantess) did not weep for Baldr and thus he remained in Hel until Ragnarok.
Brilliant content 🙂 I wonder about those 'underground cattle'. Jordanes in his 'Getica' - History of the Goths - describes their migration from ancient Scandinavian homelands (passage 6, section 25). They describe earthquakes 'that sound like the lowing of cattle' (subterranean soundwaves).
Yeah curious about underground cattle too
@@penelopehill9710 Perhaps a connection to Geryon's red cattle - Lugh represented by the Corleck Head? Or Oweynagat in Rathcrogan 🙂
Great video, as usual.
Awesome video thanks
Thank you for this video
Another great video
Väinämöinen's travels to the underworld is one of my personal faves
I am writing a novel, and I am surprised of how many occurences we can find, in mythology, about traveling through hell. My character is send on a "death" mission to slay an enemy general, and must pass through a ritual before his departure. He has to give coins to a temple, buy oil for a lamp, and spend the night in the shadow, prying and sleeping, calling upon mythologic figures such as "the mother, who went to hell to find her daughter", "the prince that slew the bull to vanquish darkness", and "the hunter, with his bow and sword, whom is now in the sky". By chance, the setting is in late summer/early autumn, and as he rides to the war, he enters a more and more savage part of the world, far away from civilization. As a symbol, he talks with soldiers who have been accounted as "lost in action", and presumed dead, so they help him in his mission, as he would talk and be helped by ghosts or spirits.
Sounds interesting
Wow I got into Mr Mythos and of course Robert Sephyer regularly blows my mind,so here I am subscribed and I’m going to bing the hell out of your work.
🏴 and or Celtic legends I’m ignorant as hell about and all these ancient stories.
Your very committed you must be,it’s in depth stuff
The underworld seems inescapably to be the antedeluvian world, hence the certainty that powerful demons and advanced knowledge were hidden there. Gilgamesh was looking for the same, but he went across the sea rather than under it to find Noah (Utnapishtim) who gave him the knowledge from before the flood.
I enjoy this.
I'd love to know where you find your stock-footage (people in costume, and whatnot).
Those types of myths are most prominent with the ancient Thracians, Orpheus and Dionysus myths are of Thracian origin like many other myths of this type.
Manannan Mac Lir
Grendel may have originally been a descendant of the Anglo Saxon version of Loki, which could answer why Grendel is said to be the descendant of Cain. Where the recently converted Anglo Saxons conflated the first murderer Cain with Loki because of Loki’s role as the murderer of Baldur. This also explains why Cain’s banishment leads to the giants and ogres in the world as it is Loki who is the progenitor of many monsters.
I've often heard that Tuireann is a storm god. Do you know of any evidence for this? Some research I'm doing somewhat hinges on this, and I would be very grateful for any pointers.
That’s because of his name, which (likely related to the Gaulish Taranis) is based on the root of thunder
@@Fortunatus144 so it is purely etymological.
Grendel was cannibalistic Neanderthal Bigfoot. Demonstrates super Simeon characteristics such as nighttime stalking and inter species predation. I believe they live still, in the way out.
The underworld stories are all similar around the world. The Mayan's believe that all bodies of water were the underworld. They called it Chibalba. The also have story of the twin brothers that went to the underworld to seek revenge from the lords of the underworld for tricking their father into a game, whereas their father lost their head. They beat the lords of the underworld and escaped with their fathers head. They hide the head in the dirt, and the next day it has turned into a head of corn. That's their whole mytholy of the underworld and how corn came to be, and how the ball game they played was related to the underworld and sustenance, and the traveling of the constellation of Gemini through the Milky Way. That's why I don't gamble!
Thanks for visiting Mayan Mythology here.
Mayans are fabled to have played a sort of soccer game with a head . . . which I found wholely macarbre . . .
You've given me an understanding.
Greetings Sir; who is the actor in frame 6.3? I have seen him in other period works and would like to see more of his acting.
Lot's of parallels to underworld mythology in the resurrection of Christ as well.
There is none. Christ is not a pagan god.
3:27 or an archeologist.
Ahhh...my dessert for later on 🌹🌹🌹🧙♂️
No mention of the doom guy?
The narrator really tried 3 accents within 30 seconds of one another in the first 4 minutes of this and failed every one of them
Tomb Raider.
Hail Zeus.Hail Odin
I thought it was pigs that were hunted and eaten afresh each day. I hadn't heard of the goats.
I believe that is said about the dwelling of Oengus
Why do you say it as Ohfin instead of Odin ?
Othin* and that’s because that’s how you pronounce his name in Old Norse (and Icelandic):
*Óðinn.*
The Bible actually does have a sense of the adversarial relationship between G0D and the giants, dear sir. It’s a thematic tension that runs from Genesis chapter 4 through to the sons of Anak in the conquest of Israel after the Exodus, and all the way through the reign of King David.
It’s becoming more and more obvious to me, as I listen to your channel and some others, that the Storylines are essentially the same, but the names and specific actions of the heroes are different depending in part, upon the regional and temporal traditions passed down regarding the ancestors and the gods they followed.
The Divide between the Old & the New, between Christianity and all the previous or later traditions, hangs upon a Tree as well, in the Personhood of Yeshua Ha’Moshiack, known today as Jesus Christ.
His presence in History does not negate the old ones, nor their accomplishments, but it creates a Standard whereby the followers are able to find solace and solidarity when they have been found otherwise.. powerless.
That is the difference in practical terms. The things done in His Name..? He will Judge.. either here through the systems of Time.. or in Heaven or Hell Beyond the Veil. He is the Present Hero to all who call upon His Name.
That’s a Relationship.. not particularly a religion, imho, but if all I can do is follow, let it be according to His Words & Example, rather than the regulations of the ones who are now the Scribes and Pharisees who would as soon see me stoned, than extend Forgiveness, regardless of the religious observances they may espouse.
Blessings and good fortune.
Many thanks.
Even so..
MARANATHA!
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doctrine & dogma . . . neither is good nor bad in balance.
All Wisdom is found in balance . . . bridging the gap.
I know at least about Christianity that it also borrowed the myth of giants they called "Nephelim", correct? Said to be the offspring if angels couple with humans. But then there may be little that Christianity didn't borrow from something else thousands of years older than it. I really enjoy listening to your videos, Kevin. My favorite topics are Celtic Myths but I enjoy listening to all your essays, and the music and visuals are really cool. I will forever think of the hooded man going into the cave as "The Dagda" :D
Loved your video of me I am Kian reincarnated but Kevin is my true real name they refused to use.
The ancient route language of the Cymru Welsh is obviously not a proto European languages as it has no links to old Germanic or indeed any other old European languages. It's lineage appears to be much older than ancient Roman, Latin and even Greek. The tongue is a living fossil that is the key to translating the most ancient of script's. It came from the near East via the ancient migration route's, to Troy and eventually Britain. This obvious history is much ignored by the echo chamber establishment narrative. Heddwch PEACE.
What a treasure trove of information! Love all your work