The scene with the teacher and janitor is the crucial decision of the movie. It was more than just a character that was a smart ass or put the principal in his place. It was a commentary on how kids grow up with immature ideas and how they try to avoid work and responsibility and how adults are worse because they had their time but they continue to make decisions like they were still kids and then try to govern kids at the same time. "You found out that it was actually work and that really bummed you out" Calling us adults out on our behavior and decisions made with the same immaturity that adults deride kids for. One of my favorite scenes in any movie.
Michael Covel It really was that Carl knew that Dick hated being a teacher/vice-principal. You could say that Dick was going through a mid-life crisis, and Carl was basically voicing Dick’s frustrations at how his life isn’t what he wanted. Remember, Carl basically told Dick that he got old when he told him, “you wouldn’t like you when you were sixteen!” Also, when you think about it, Dick’s also in detention. There are plenty of things he’d rather do on a Saturday than spend nine hours with a bunch of shit-eating kids who hate him. Furthermore Carl also pointed out that Dick does care about what the kids think of him. Sorry for length; I could discuss that scene til the cows come home.
What's funny is that although Carl called out the kids as a bunch of s***heads, none of them challenged him on it. Not even John Bender. Yes, Carl was an authority figure, but he was able to connect with those kids.
thatguy263 They respected him once they learned he was going through their lockers. They were thinking, “Oh shit, this guy could ruin my social life completely.”
in the deleted/extended scenes he tells each of them what their future holds.. and it's not pretty and it cuts deep. i think that's part of the reason theyre silent. he shredded all of them pretty hard
I met John Kapelos in the summer of 1990 when he was filming scenes for a movie called The Bruce Curtis Story here in the South Shore of Nova Scotia. It freaked me out that I actually met a member of the cast of one of my all-time favorite movies, and he was the nicest guy you'd want to have a conversation with.
I always understood carl, he plays a dual role from the perspectives of the viewer once as kid and then gaining a deeper understanding of carl later from an adult viewer point of view.
Because he has hidden power. If he can get into kids lockers and listen in on kids conversations, who's to say he couldn't do that to his superiors and does it regularly, sometimes just for fun?
Anthony Michael Hall seems to have ended up a rugged-voiced alpha and even a bully (if news he's challenging neighbors for fights and beating them up are correct). Ironically, Judd Nelson is told to be a mild-mannered guy.
Just read a piece on John Kapelos in the Chicago Tribune. Rick Moranis had the janitor part but was let go because he insisted on playing the role with a Russian accent. Kapelos did a great job in the movie!
Carl the janitor must've been the character, Mr. Ryan, although that surname didn't end up in the film credits. In the "group therapy" scene, Brian has the line, "Mr. Ryan found a gun in my locker." Plus, Carl immediately recognized Brian and said hello to him when he entered the library with his cleaning cart. Remember, John quipped to Brian, "Your Dad works here?"). If I'm wrong about Ryan being the janitor, then Mr. Ryan was possibly the head principal, with Rich Vernon being the ass't. principal. Thoughts?
Carl was the one character the Jud Nelson character respected. Interesting that the ‘rebel’ was also the main teenager who already has a certain amount of respect for Carl and understood him. They probably had a previous interactions and he sensed that Carl viewed him as a human being and saw him beyond his rebel image.
Hi John! Great stuff! I really liked your character on "Justified"! It was interesting to see how that character developed throughout his appearances in the series. I'm also digging the Lone Ranger's personalized message. That's totally cool! If you do autographs, I'd like an autographed Picker picture. Keep up the great work!
Because the majority of life's learning is outside of ducebag school curriculum that kids haven't attended or will pass!!!! And Don't let its value be labelled as an janitor when you get and live to that point 👀👌
Carl represents the street smart individual, that respects everyone but doesn’t like everyone at the same time, hence Vernon. Carl believes in these kids, but he knows that these kids will learn their own way in life and not a teacher’s way.
You learn the most out of school even more so at 35 the so called start of the off the planet age to the young culturing box but that's when you most commonly break free
I do maintenance at a public school, in charge of the custodians. (After 22 years of industrial maintenance this stuff is a cakewalk.) I've noticed the teachers are 'friends' instead of instructors like when I was in school and there's this sort of arrogance on the part of the teaching staff with the 'I went to college' thing. Seeing some of them I honestly wonder what colleges are teaching these days....seems like a whole lot of nothing for a whole lot of money. (With them paying off loans I make more than them.)
For years, Bender got me thinking Carl was Brian's dad, and not a joke of Bender's, I never read the cast, Janitor is Carl Reed, not Carl Johnson, to be Brian's dad. Good thing the truth is out, Carl Reed has no connection to Brian's Mom from the car. Also I gotta add the scene that Carl never said bye to Brian, if I assume he was his son. But I had to read the cast list. No one was related except the parents who drove their kids to school, except Bender's
I think people are making far too big a deal out of Carl. Carl is just wasted potential. He represents what any one of these kids might end up doing when life doesn't go as planned. He hates the kids, he hates his job, and probably hates life. Man of the year is now a lowly working class zero at the very bottom of the food chain.
Be did know about all their dirty little secrets. In the real world, I think in certain cities and states there are now unions and they get great benefits and what they deserve
janitor carl later on changed his name to bob russell and became a pilot and crashed his plane onto a deserted island with 9 high schoolers and a child
The scene with the teacher and janitor is the crucial decision of the movie. It was more than just a character that was a smart ass or put the principal in his place. It was a commentary on how kids grow up with immature ideas and how they try to avoid work and responsibility and how adults are worse because they had their time but they continue to make decisions like they were still kids and then try to govern kids at the same time.
"You found out that it was actually work and that really bummed you out" Calling us adults out on our behavior and decisions made with the same immaturity that adults deride kids for. One of my favorite scenes in any movie.
nicely stated
Michael Covel It really was that Carl knew that Dick hated being a teacher/vice-principal. You could say that Dick was going through a mid-life crisis, and Carl was basically voicing Dick’s frustrations at how his life isn’t what he wanted. Remember, Carl basically told Dick that he got old when he told him, “you wouldn’t like you when you were sixteen!”
Also, when you think about it, Dick’s also in detention. There are plenty of things he’d rather do on a Saturday than spend nine hours with a bunch of shit-eating kids who hate him. Furthermore Carl also pointed out that Dick does care about what the kids think of him.
Sorry for length; I could discuss that scene til the cows come home.
I think that Carl was showing Richard Vernon how important it is to be respectful to the kids
His basic message is that if you want respect you have to give respect.
I’m playing Carl in our high school play this year and I absolutely love his character!
What's funny is that although Carl called out the kids as a bunch of s***heads, none of them challenged him on it. Not even John Bender. Yes, Carl was an authority figure, but he was able to connect with those kids.
thatguy263 They respected him once they learned he was going through their lockers. They were thinking, “Oh shit, this guy could ruin my social life completely.”
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Yeah, man. That peasant/serf/peon had a lot of power.
in the deleted/extended scenes he tells each of them what their future holds.. and it's not pretty and it cuts deep. i think that's part of the reason theyre silent. he shredded all of them pretty hard
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I saw that scene. Personally, I think they should’ve kept it.
I think Carl was Benders pot dealer
I met John Kapelos in the summer of 1990 when he was filming scenes for a movie called The Bruce Curtis Story here in the South Shore of Nova Scotia. It freaked me out that I actually met a member of the cast of one of my all-time favorite movies, and he was the nicest guy you'd want to have a conversation with.
He was in two other of John Hughes movies,Sixteen Candles and Weird Science..He was also in the movie Roxanne with Steve Martin.
A practitioner of the custodial arts.
Carl is the best character in the movie.
I always understood carl, he plays a dual role from the perspectives of the viewer once as kid and then gaining a deeper understanding of carl later from an adult viewer point of view.
Carl was my role model he inspired me to be a high school custodian for the last 22 years😊
I love Carl’s character. Very wise and Street savvy!
: JANITORS, OF SCHOOLS DO DO A LOT MORE THAN YOU KIDS GIVE US CREDIT FOR!
That’s the truth
At the school I work at, we’re called custodians. We do so much more than janitors...
In literature, Carl’s character is the soothsayer. An omniscient able to see even the future.
Benders look of admiration when the janitor starts speaking out .
I think that is because he's afraid that his hidden pot could be found.
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Because he has hidden power. If he can get into kids lockers and listen in on kids conversations, who's to say he couldn't do that to his superiors and does it regularly, sometimes just for fun?
@@Arwen1964he was Benders pot dealer , they were looking out for each other man
Anthony Michael Hall seems to have ended up a rugged-voiced alpha and even a bully (if news he's challenging neighbors for fights and beating them up are correct). Ironically, Judd Nelson is told to be a mild-mannered guy.
This is a great video! Nice to learn about Carl the Janitor.
Just read a piece on John Kapelos in the Chicago Tribune. Rick Moranis had the janitor part but was let go because he insisted on playing the role with a Russian accent. Kapelos did a great job in the movie!
Carl the janitor must've been the character, Mr. Ryan, although that surname didn't end up in the film credits. In the "group therapy" scene, Brian has the line, "Mr. Ryan found a gun in my locker." Plus, Carl immediately recognized Brian and said hello to him when he entered the library with his cleaning cart. Remember, John quipped to Brian, "Your Dad works here?"). If I'm wrong about Ryan being the janitor, then Mr. Ryan was possibly the head principal, with Rich Vernon being the ass't. principal. Thoughts?
I never thought about that, but I think you’re right!!
Carl’s last name was Reed. Mr. Ryan must have been the head principal, because Vernon was in fact the assistant principal.
I've haven't seen on TV or in movies a character like Carl before or since, which is really strange when you think about it.
Neil Flynn's Janitor from Scrubs. Pretty much same general attitude.
Johnny 5 from short circuit is similar
In our office, we have a regular maintenance guy who comes in quite a bit. He reminds me of Carl so much I almost want to slip and call him that.
Outside of educational school that you learn the most
The janitor is legend for this could be you in 20 years time of a age that disappears
It's a cult classic that will continue to new youth live on 😎👌
I just opened my own business in the custodial arts.
“How does one become a janitor?” LMAO 😂🤣
Carl was the one character the Jud Nelson character respected. Interesting that the ‘rebel’ was also the main teenager who already has a certain amount of respect for Carl and understood him. They probably had a previous interactions and he sensed that Carl viewed him as a human being and saw him beyond his rebel image.
I think it's ironic that the janitor has the most respect from both the kids and principle Vernon.
Carl's the MAN........................OF THE YEAR
He was so awesome as Detective Schanke
Remember when being over 30 was "old"?
Hi John! Great stuff! I really liked your character on "Justified"! It was interesting to see how that character developed throughout his appearances in the series. I'm also digging the Lone Ranger's personalized message. That's totally cool! If you do autographs, I'd like an autographed Picker picture. Keep up the great work!
"There are no small parts, only small actors."
Says the man who quit _Forever Knight_ because his part was going to be reduced.
Because the majority of life's learning is outside of ducebag school curriculum that kids haven't attended or will pass!!!! And Don't let its value be labelled as an janitor when you get and live to that point 👀👌
There's a lot to more to be learned in this world outside of school text books The janitor proven Ha
Carl should have been a teacher and Vernon should be the one cleaning toilets.
Happy National Custodians Day! "I am the eyes and ears of this institution." 🙂
It's an 80s cult up there🤗 😇
Carl is the embodiment of how real life works:
“In school, you learn a lesson and take a test? In real life, you’re tested and then learn a lesson?”
Carl looks a lot like Al Bundy.
Carl is deep, a lot more so than Vernon.
I wonder if Carl ever pinched Benders bag.
Carl represents the street smart individual, that respects everyone but doesn’t like everyone at the same time, hence Vernon. Carl believes in these kids, but he knows that these kids will learn their own way in life and not a teacher’s way.
You learn the most out of school even more so at 35 the so called start of the off the planet age to the young culturing box but that's when you most commonly break free
The Breakfast Club is a movie that PARENTS should watch to avoid the mistakes.
Edit: ...the parents in the movie made.
They probably do,watch it!
I do maintenance at a public school, in charge of the custodians. (After 22 years of industrial maintenance this stuff is a cakewalk.) I've noticed the teachers are 'friends' instead of instructors like when I was in school and there's this sort of arrogance on the part of the teaching staff with the 'I went to college' thing. Seeing some of them I honestly wonder what colleges are teaching these days....seems like a whole lot of nothing for a whole lot of money. (With them paying off loans I make more than them.)
Dude you are real life Carl with that philosophy. Respect man
This guy Carl was the best in a movie called the boost with James woods n gets him hooked on coke hence the name the boost real underrated flick.
Skanky=I am the eyes and ears of this institution!!!!!
2:33 ❤❤❤
The way she's looking at him like she totally loathes him.
There any b-roll footage on the set of the movie?
Your dad work here ? LOL
For years, Bender got me thinking Carl was Brian's dad, and not a joke of Bender's, I never read the cast, Janitor is Carl Reed, not Carl Johnson, to be Brian's dad. Good thing the truth is out, Carl Reed has no connection to Brian's Mom from the car. Also I gotta add the scene that Carl never said bye to Brian, if I assume he was his son. But I had to read the cast list. No one was related except the parents who drove their kids to school, except Bender's
Did director John Hughes collect Brian after detention , far out man
1:44 - :45 Who could blame him?
who is the woman who speaks at ~0:28?
***** ...and 'Juno'!
ally
Diablo Cody
what was the song in the background? when he walks in to clean in the library then talks to the kids
It's "Waiting" by Elizabeth Daily (I used to have the LP) - one of the worst songs on it, to be sure, but it's there.
2:45 is scary
Anyone that's 35 or above has fallen off the earth 🙈🙉🙊
I think people are making far too big a deal out of Carl. Carl is just wasted potential. He represents what any one of these kids might end up doing when life doesn't go as planned. He hates the kids, he hates his job, and probably hates life. Man of the year is now a lowly working class zero at the very bottom of the food chain.
Whos this lady?
fo i don't want to know I just wanted the clip ffs.
Why's Allison looking at him like that? 2:32-2:34
What’s wrong with being a janitor?
Johnson's underwear
Be did know about all their dirty little secrets. In the real world, I think in certain cities and states there are now unions and they get great benefits and what they deserve
Cast-
Judd nelson molly ringwald ally sheedy
I thought Carl was Brians dad??
Nah Bender just says that as a joke to mess with Brian
Carl's dad is played by John Hughes in the movie... you see him at the beginning of the movie dropping off brian.
I'm Carl...not Karl....Ducky Dale..aka Montagraph...........XD
janitor carl later on changed his name to bob russell and became a pilot and crashed his plane onto a deserted island with 9 high schoolers and a child
Listen...we all know sooner or later they'll remake this. This time it'll be much much more woke. Probably a trans & some teen stuck in the closet