Having service history is more important than hours. My trucks both have close to 250K and would take them anywhere. My 10 month old tractor has 305 hours…I guess lots of seat time since I mow, chip, haul with it. Love tractor life!
I definitely agree that the lower the hours the better. With used anything it’s hard to tell how it has been treated and serviced especially tractors. You have the reputation for selling good quality used tractors and you want to keep that reputation. You are on top of your game to search out and purchase good quality tractors for resale and still make a living. Thanks for another great video.
Well I agree to a point. But if a tractor has lower hours but has been hooked to an implemented that is to large for it and has not been maintained correctly. And was abused makes big difference
I am blessed to use a 2018 kubota L3901, and a 1970s JD2240. The kubota was bought brand new and has been great, the JD was bought about a year ago and had over 3,000 hours, and was used roughly. Got to learn to turn a wrench on the JD, and i love running both for different chores. Its amazing how much you can learn on youtube and forums don't be afraid to buy used and gain some knowledge, but new tractors are cool to see how they break in.
300 hours on my 2022 3038 JD the first year, Changed the fluid @1 year, now year two I hardly put 60 hours on it 7 months. My big ag tractor back when I had the farm used to get 300hrs in 2 months. I have to say that this little compact tractor has paid for it's self as I'm building a new house and saved over $200,000 alone on the hardscape and landscape
Courtney I have over 800 hours on my little ls tractor. It is serviced every 75 to 100 hours and greased every day. I bought it new in 2020 . That sounds like a lot of hours but it is the machine we depend on most in our vegetable production
I have a John Deere 755 that is from the late 80's or early 90's( I am third owner) with 1400 hours... and while it has it's issues, it seems like a good little tractor.. it does more work than I can by myself.
Bought a 2014 3038e in 2020 with 32 hours. With so little use the seals had dried out a little and it leaked a little fluid. Ive got over 200 on it now. I love that tractor, and would only trade for something with a cab. Brush hogging ragweed sucks.
Recently picked up a kubota L2850 with 1700 hours on it and it’s been very well taken care of. Always used as a mower with a 72” center mower. Anyway I’m willing to bet it will serve me very well for many years. My local dealer had the same model with 2500 hours on it for over 2000 bucks more than I paid for mine.
I recently purchased a 1975 Ford 335 Tractor with front loader with grapple with 25xx hours for 10k. It came with a 6’ brush hog, 6’ box blade, auger and a 6’ blade.
Hours are only one indicator and a fairly minor one. I’d much rather have a 1,000 hour tractor that has been used, but not abused and has had excellent maintenance than a 200 hour tractor that has never had an oil change and has been run hard and put away wet. A properly used, well maintained tractor should go 5,000 hours easily. When I bought my LX280 riding lawn tractor back in 2005, the deal tried to talk me into a more expensive lawn tractor by telling me this model was only good for 400-600 hours. Well, maybe that is true for someone who abuses the unit and doesn’t maintain it, but my LX280 is approaching 700 hours and 19 years of age and is still going strong and looks nearly new from just a little distance. Sure, the paint is scratched in places, but the seat still has no cracks and I’m still running the original tires believe it or not. Maintenance and proper use are the critical factors in the life of any piece of equipment or tool, not just compact tractors.
Like buying any item, if the original owner who took care of the machine it is worth a lot more than the "I don't care" owner. Most can just look and see if it was or not loved.
People just assume if something is used it's got to be cheaper than new. Price out the new tractor before ever looking at a used one. My experience is dealers are only a couple thousand lower than the new price. In that case it's not worth buying used.
I just bought a bx1880 2021 for 16k 170 hours with a rear blower and pallet forks. A new one would have been over 17k with a loader figured it was worth buying used.
Know the design standard of a model is what really matters. The tractor may have been engineered for 2000 hrs. That is often the difference between what is considered a homeowner tractor versus a commercial tractor. This is easily seen in zero turn mowers for example. Type of fasteners hood latches are a place to start looking.
To me, it kinda depends on engine size. Like a BX with 500 hours is normal, while a much larger utility tractor is often seen with 1500-5000 hours. When I bought used in 2015, I kept the hours to under 350 and that Kubota B7610 served me well. Now I own a CK2620se cab and Im only at 20 hours. Gonna be while until it hits 300.
Odd that 300 wasn’t on your survey. Service records in play? I keep an activity log with my maintenance. My BX has 134h at 28 months. About to limber it up for fall. It’s in my AC shop, sometimes dusty but climate controlled.
Thank you for your video. I store my Kubota outside as absolutely no choice. The paint is fading. I wash, I wax, I pamper. Would paint fading be decisive to you given the service history and pampering that I have for my machine? Just curious. Thank you!
You could possibly tarp just the top 1/2-3/4 of the tractor to keep most the elements off of it. Just keep tarp from direct contact with hood to allow air circulation.
Interesting, I come for the world of larger tractors - On a tractor with over 100 horsepower I’d consider anything less than 1000 hrs low hours, and on anything older than 20 years less than 3000 would be low hours. I’d take a well cared for 5000 over something with
Once you've found the right tractor for you, if you look after it by doing the maintenance, and parts continue to be available, there's no reason it shouldn't last for 30 years. Buying used won't necessarily have all the latest bells and whistles but cost over service life certainly becomes more favourable for you.
It really depends on financing for a lot of people. A lot of folks will finance. If you can get a good rate and terms, you will be money ahead. We went new because we will still in the pandemic and used prices were ridiculous compared to new.
To me, 500hrs would be high.if done over 3-4 m P months by a inexperienced small commercial user or homeowner. But, 500 hrs over 2-3 yrs would not necessarily be high hours if the tractor didn't look abused. I have 200+ hours on a Kioti dk4210se pushing down brush. It's dirty, has a broken headlight lens but the light works, and the flashers high up on the rops are broken. Some buyers would say my tractor has been abused. I have kept up all recommended maintenance.
Based on most of these comments, i suspect folks do maintenance of hour count and NOT yearly, like my TYM (and vehicle) manuals say to do? Acid will build up in engine oil (and i assume hydraulic oil) and start etching the metals. Is this not a real concern? I use all synth fluids, and will go 2 years on some of my less driven cars, but you have to account for fluid and filter breakdown right?
You should check out the project farm video on oil life. Well, on everything really, but the oil life video is relevant here. I work in industry operating heavy stationery machinery; we sample and test oil very regularly and change oil relatively seldom. Our maintenance program never allows us to change oil based on time in the crankcase; it’s hours or lab results. If you have decent storage conditions your oil should not deteriorate even with a long time in the crankcase. This is my observations based on seeing lab results of oil testing for quite some time.
My 80s trackhoe has over 4000 hours and runs fine. So I would say less then 3000 hours is low. Or if any of you watch Andrew Camarata his one Kubota trackhoe has over 10000 hours and it runs good.
It depends on the tractor, If its a quality brand pre emissions tractor in good shape Under 1000 is fantastic, I drive a John deere 1445 that has over 5000hrs on it regularly So if I find one with 700-800 hours thats in good shape for cheap.. I already know how much life i can get out that machine
I beat the holy crap out of my tractors, totally abuse them.use them in construction with grapple attachment. Hard to break them. I’m a big Kubota fan myself. Solid machines especially the tractor. Just am always so impressed with how durable they are. Hydraulics is lord 😅
Can’t see how the seat would mean a thing about how the tractor is. If seen some with good liking seats and it was beat to crap and seen some that the seat was beat to crap do to having to get in and out all the time and the tractor looking great and well
I had been wondering this myself and just happened to borrow my bosses truck to go pick up my kubota L2850. It has 66,000 miles on it at 2500 hours and some change. This could drastically change for a vehicle that’s driven on the highway most of the time. I definitely feel like 2500 hours could easily make for 100,000 miles on a car driven on the highway all the time.
@@GoodWorksTractors I get quotes from their dealers here and see the msrp compared to tractors from Kubota. Definitely the standard L more bang for the buck then Deere equivalent. You made a good video of the 1025 vs bx but then again you’re new green tractor or that Kioti look better for subcompacts. The M is getting closer to the bigger sizes the only other side of the market where green could maybe beat orange but then there is that right to repair issue as well. I would also point to your own $35k gator experience videos vs this mini dump or any competitors utv for that matter. Plus not very American anymore either when considering the foreign components assembled here is same for orange. Plus Deere is owned by the same huge WEF backed trillionaire funds that are destroying our country and the rest of the world.
LOL...I have one for you. I put an average of 12 hours a month on my JD 3038E just giving my grandsons and granddaughters tractor rides.
Those are good hours also!
Having service history is more important than hours. My trucks both have close to 250K and would take them anywhere. My 10 month old tractor has 305 hours…I guess lots of seat time since I mow, chip, haul with it. Love tractor life!
I definitely agree that the lower the hours the better. With used anything it’s hard to tell how it has been treated and serviced especially tractors. You have the reputation for selling good quality used tractors and you want to keep that reputation. You are on top of your game to search out and purchase good quality tractors for resale and still make a living. Thanks for another great video.
Well I agree to a point. But if a tractor has lower hours but has been hooked to an implemented that is to large for it and has not been maintained correctly. And was abused makes big difference
I am blessed to use a 2018 kubota L3901, and a 1970s JD2240. The kubota was bought brand new and has been great, the JD was bought about a year ago and had over 3,000 hours, and was used roughly. Got to learn to turn a wrench on the JD, and i love running both for different chores. Its amazing how much you can learn on youtube and forums don't be afraid to buy used and gain some knowledge, but new tractors are cool to see how they break in.
300 hours on my 2022 3038 JD the first year, Changed the fluid @1 year, now year two I hardly put 60 hours on it 7 months. My big ag tractor back when I had the farm used to get 300hrs in 2 months. I have to say that this little compact tractor has paid for it's self as I'm building a new house and saved over $200,000 alone on the hardscape and landscape
Courtney I have over 800 hours on my little ls tractor. It is serviced every 75 to 100 hours and greased every day. I bought it new in 2020 . That sounds like a lot of hours but it is the machine we depend on most in our vegetable production
Great video. That’s how I have always looked at the hours question too!
I have a John Deere 755 that is from the late 80's or early 90's( I am third owner) with 1400 hours... and while it has it's issues, it seems like a good little tractor.. it does more work than I can by myself.
Bought a 2014 3038e in 2020 with 32 hours. With so little use the seals had dried out a little and it leaked a little fluid. Ive got over 200 on it now. I love that tractor, and would only trade for something with a cab. Brush hogging ragweed sucks.
Recently picked up a kubota L2850 with 1700 hours on it and it’s been very well taken care of. Always used as a mower with a 72” center mower. Anyway I’m willing to bet it will serve me very well for many years. My local dealer had the same model with 2500 hours on it for over 2000 bucks more than I paid for mine.
I bought a 2005 JD 3520 with almost 500 hours. Runs great. I put almost 100 hours on it this year. Way cheaper than new.
I recently purchased a 1975 Ford 335 Tractor with front loader with grapple with 25xx hours for 10k. It came with a 6’ brush hog, 6’ box blade, auger and a 6’ blade.
Hours are only one indicator and a fairly minor one. I’d much rather have a 1,000 hour tractor that has been used, but not abused and has had excellent maintenance than a 200 hour tractor that has never had an oil change and has been run hard and put away wet. A properly used, well maintained tractor should go 5,000 hours easily.
When I bought my LX280 riding lawn tractor back in 2005, the deal tried to talk me into a more expensive lawn tractor by telling me this model was only good for 400-600 hours. Well, maybe that is true for someone who abuses the unit and doesn’t maintain it, but my LX280 is approaching 700 hours and 19 years of age and is still going strong and looks nearly new from just a little distance. Sure, the paint is scratched in places, but the seat still has no cracks and I’m still running the original tires believe it or not. Maintenance and proper use are the critical factors in the life of any piece of equipment or tool, not just compact tractors.
Like buying any item, if the original owner who took care of the machine it is worth a lot more than the "I don't care" owner. Most can just look and see if it was or not loved.
People just assume if something is used it's got to be cheaper than new. Price out the new tractor before ever looking at a used one. My experience is dealers are only a couple thousand lower than the new price. In that case it's not worth buying used.
You're right on!!! 😊
As an ex JD mechanic, 6000 hours was about time for some major renovation. Of course, that's average for commercially used equipment.
I've had my TYM T474 since new in 2020, I now have 420h with no issues on it. Barely broken in.
I just bought a bx1880 2021 for 16k 170 hours with a rear blower and pallet forks. A new one would have been over 17k with a loader figured it was worth buying used.
Know the design standard of a model is what really matters. The tractor may have been engineered for 2000 hrs. That is often the difference between what is considered a homeowner tractor versus a commercial tractor. This is easily seen in zero turn mowers for example. Type of fasteners hood latches are a place to start looking.
To me, it kinda depends on engine size. Like a BX with 500 hours is normal, while a much larger utility tractor is often seen with 1500-5000 hours. When I bought used in 2015, I kept the hours to under 350 and that Kubota B7610 served me well. Now I own a CK2620se cab and Im only at 20 hours. Gonna be while until it hits 300.
Odd that 300 wasn’t on your survey. Service records in play? I keep an activity log with my maintenance. My BX has 134h at 28 months. About to limber it up for fall. It’s in my AC shop, sometimes dusty but climate controlled.
Thank you for your video. I store my Kubota outside as absolutely no choice. The paint is fading. I wash, I wax, I pamper. Would paint fading be decisive to you given the service history and pampering that I have for my machine? Just curious. Thank you!
You could possibly tarp just the top 1/2-3/4 of the tractor to keep most the elements off of it.
Just keep tarp from direct contact with hood to allow air circulation.
Condition is everything 300 hours in most cases is new these tractor’s will go thousands of hours new tractor owners just don’t understand
Depends on maintenance and if it had been abused in some way.
Interesting, I come for the world of larger tractors - On a tractor with over 100 horsepower I’d consider anything less than 1000 hrs low hours, and on anything older than 20 years less than 3000 would be low hours.
I’d take a well cared for 5000 over something with
Once you've found the right tractor for you, if you look after it by doing the maintenance, and parts continue to be available, there's no reason it shouldn't last for 30 years. Buying used won't necessarily have all the latest bells and whistles but cost over service life certainly becomes more favourable for you.
I found out what year it is and how many hours are on it and a math of how many hours were put on every year from previous owner
It really depends on financing for a lot of people. A lot of folks will finance. If you can get a good rate and terms, you will be money ahead.
We went new because we will still in the pandemic and used prices were ridiculous compared to new.
Be careful of any used in salt or other harsh environments.
That goes for anything. From tractors, to trucks, to women. Shop wisely.
To me, 500hrs would be high.if done over 3-4 m P months by a inexperienced small commercial user or homeowner. But, 500 hrs over 2-3 yrs would not necessarily be high hours if the tractor didn't look abused.
I have 200+ hours on a Kioti dk4210se pushing down brush. It's dirty, has a broken headlight lens but the light works, and the flashers high up on the rops are broken. Some buyers would say my tractor has been abused. I have kept up all recommended maintenance.
Based on most of these comments, i suspect folks do maintenance of hour count and NOT yearly, like my TYM (and vehicle) manuals say to do? Acid will build up in engine oil (and i assume hydraulic oil) and start etching the metals.
Is this not a real concern? I use all synth fluids, and will go 2 years on some of my less driven cars, but you have to account for fluid and filter breakdown right?
You should check out the project farm video on oil life. Well, on everything really, but the oil life video is relevant here.
I work in industry operating heavy stationery machinery; we sample and test oil very regularly and change oil relatively seldom. Our maintenance program never allows us to change oil based on time in the crankcase; it’s hours or lab results. If you have decent storage conditions your oil should not deteriorate even with a long time in the crankcase. This is my observations based on seeing lab results of oil testing for quite some time.
@@kurtisb100 yeah I watch all his stuff, and this is basically my belief as well. Good to be confirmed by someone like you, thank you!
My 80s trackhoe has over 4000 hours and runs fine. So I would say less then 3000 hours is low. Or if any of you watch Andrew Camarata his one Kubota trackhoe has over 10000 hours and it runs good.
It depends on the tractor, If its a quality brand pre emissions tractor in good shape Under 1000 is fantastic,
I drive a John deere 1445 that has over 5000hrs on it regularly
So if I find one with 700-800 hours thats in good shape for cheap..
I already know how much life i can get out that machine
I beat the holy crap out of my tractors, totally abuse them.use them in construction with grapple attachment. Hard to break them. I’m a big Kubota fan myself. Solid machines especially the tractor. Just am always so impressed with how durable they are. Hydraulics is lord 😅
Can’t see how the seat would mean a thing about how the tractor is. If seen some with good liking seats and it was beat to crap and seen some that the seat was beat to crap do to having to get in and out all the time and the tractor looking great and well
I need your help. I have something the world wants and needs in the Ag industry. Patent costs keep me from sharing with the world
When did you start selling tractors again?
I remember hearing that 2,000 hours is about the same as 100,000 miles on a automobile
I had been wondering this myself and just happened to borrow my bosses truck to go pick up my kubota L2850. It has 66,000 miles on it at 2500 hours and some change. This could drastically change for a vehicle that’s driven on the highway most of the time. I definitely feel like 2500 hours could easily make for 100,000 miles on a car driven on the highway all the time.
John Deere are over priced
How do you know?
The world's overpriced right now.
@@Itsa_Mea exactly and most of the companies like Deere have the same top shareholders in common like Vanguard, Black Rock and State Street
@@GoodWorksTractors I get quotes from their dealers here and see the msrp compared to tractors from Kubota. Definitely the standard L more bang for the buck then Deere equivalent. You made a good video of the 1025 vs bx but then again you’re new green tractor or that Kioti look better for subcompacts.
The M is getting closer to the bigger sizes the only other side of the market where green could maybe beat orange but then there is that right to repair issue as well.
I would also point to your own $35k gator experience videos vs this mini dump or any competitors utv for that matter.
Plus not very American anymore either when considering the foreign components assembled here is same for orange.
Plus Deere is owned by the same huge WEF backed trillionaire funds that are destroying our country and the rest of the world.
Nothing holds resale value like a Deere. if you cant afford them just say that.