The Maule M5 210C
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- A close look at a 1976 Maule M5-210C Taildragger
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Every Pilot I know, that has flown the Maule aircraft, absolutely LOVES THEM !
On or off airport. Back country or town. Farm or Ranch. A big FAVORITE 😍
They are very capable aircraft.
"It would actually be a good plane to get checked out in tailwheel..."
I flew a 235-horse M5 with the VG's on tour operations here in Hawaii. I've flown Stearmans, Waco YMF5's, Citabrias, Super Cubs, Cessna Ag Trucks, a DC-3, and a Great Lakes biplane with nary a landing issue. NONE of these were more challenging to land gracefully than that little Maule. I think this was because the Maule, with the small tires (ours originally had balloon tires which were removed and replaced with conventional tires like the ones in your video before I flew it) sat on the pavement in a relatively flat attitude which wouldn't permit a full, or near full stall, three-point landing-it was still trying to fly in its earthbound attitude, and the slightest bounce would require an immediate and finely tuned response with elevator/throttle to tame an embarrassing PIO porpoise down the runway. Additionally, our (three-blade equipped) M5 had very limited propeller clearance, so raising the tail to dump lift and control rebound risked a pavement prop strike (don't ask). This Maule was wrecked in a landing accident by a pilot with limited tailwheel experience after I left the company. The M5 was just fine in the air, but I'd certainly have reservations about soloing a student in one.
Interesting. Thanks.
Brings back memories of flying my M7-235B. Great video. Speed in a Maule on landing will mean a bounce. But you get to log 3 or 4 landings in one circuit!
Very true!
I Love my Maule, you are absolutely correct on excess speed. I have never learned to make a good wheel landing on the Maule , to doit right, you have to have the correct attitude and run out airspeed and altitude at the same time. Enjoyed the video. I've heard that Mr. Maule will give lessons was planning on going over there, but got to Lehrer I was satisfied with most of my stall landings.
@@jackiewindham8199 , if I remember correctly, the Maule handbook states that wheel landings are NOT recommended. I did them for my tail wheel endorsement, but not after that.
Mark. Love your videos. Keep them up. Just a few notes for accuracy. It's an M5-210C not M5 201 C or MX. The landing gear is not bungie, its oleo struts. The fuselage is not rag from the firewall back, the boot cowl is metal. There is no cuff on the wing, straight uncambered USA 35B airfoil, with VG's. And yes, you can land about 40 mph slower than you did. Love it! Keep em' coming!!
That landing face! LMAO
I saw that too😅 he was anticipating the bounce 😂
Always a joyous moment when a notification pops up for a new video from Mark! Great knowledge as always 👍
Agreed 👍🏼
"Mall" is the way we say it round here LOL :-)
Recovered one of these on floats when I was an apprentice. Fantastic owner let me fly it too. Very satisfying experience. Sweet airplane. I flew one with the big engine too. Also very nice.
Once you get to know them they are super fun and utilitarian. Thanks for the great video!!
You bet!
Thanks, IMHO Maule is the finest STOL aircraft produced in the US..That one is the short wing but the M7 has longer wings and more HP, usually 235/260. Oh and your pronunciation of Maule is spot on.. Would love to see you do more on the Maules as there is not a lot on them published. The Factory is in South Georgia.
maules are great but they tend to loose elevator authority on landing do to being so short.
@@iffyaviator That's because of the servo tab trim. Trim nose down on short final and you'll get it all back.
Now I know that what looks like a rudder trim is not a rudder trim. I "flew" this in MSFS and I call it the "Mau-ler". Amazing plane and excellent video!!
Mark Merry Christmas and I’m glad to come out and Fly some demos for you and the Maule 220 is my favorite because I’ve flown one
Back in the late '80s I went to the factory and picked up a new mx7 235. I remember mine had the negative flap angle. I kept it here on the farm Short Grass strip, worked fine.
I think they all have negative flaps for cruise.
Love Mark’s work - reminds me of my own C185/205/206/207 BE36/58 and 18s days of the 60s/70s.
I’ve missed you Mark.
Thanks.
Stiff gear. Probably why CHP went to the C180/5 series. I saw one of their Maules after a landing 'mishap' on a Central Valley levee road--wiped the gear out. BTW--remember the Maule scene in the movie 'Cannonball Run'?(Burt Reynolds lands downtown to get more beer at the quickie mart)
Beautiful Aircraft! Awesome demo Mark.
Really wanted to see the landing from the outside view too!
Love every presentation of yours. Tks 👍🙂
Man what a good video and a pretty plane! Im painting my 85 now. Cannot wait to get the wings on it and fly it!!! I just cant WAIT! This video gets me pumped!
You've got us excited too!
Very nice aircraft! And great video! Glad to see you again. :D
Hi Mark, 1st time watching your channel. I had a 1974 M-5 210c with the IO 360D 210 hp also. There was no place I landed that I could not get out of, an amazing airplane with tremendious leg & head room. Here in Michigan we have a lot of grass and unimproved places to land and this plane would do it all. I also had a 1976 180K 0470-u that was a great cross country and short field plane. Currently our mission organization has a 1948 108-3 Stinson with a 165hp Franklin. Its a smooth flying plane and I like the oleo gear on rough fields but its a little small for hauling loads. The Maule didn't seem to mind how much you put iniside it would always jump right off. Terry 3-21-22
Thanks great back story.
Looking out for that wheel landing in those Mark because of the stiff landing gear struts but overall you got it under directional control!!! Great job
hahaha the short coupled fight. Hate pavement in the pacers and maules
Awesome thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Glad you're back posting.
Hold it off Mark on the Wheel landing 👏🏿
Thanks
great show ! I plan to get another bush plane and when I do I would love to come down, living in B.C.
This is another very good aircraft review - thank you
Thank you.
I like how you do a demo flight.
Marvelous demo - thanks!
Glad you liked it!
I’ve learned so much from you. Keep this up please!!
Thank you! Will do!
Love it! Thanks for sharing and keep it up!
Thank you! Will do!
I actually bought this airplane and it was my first. I'm a 35+ year airline captain so my GA was a little rusty, just like the engine on this aircraft. I know I know, I should've done my due diligence and I thought I had when I trusted his mechanic to give me a fair assessment of the plane. Well, it wasn't and I was the fool for trusting anyone. The engine had to be rebuilt and after looking at the borescope pics I was absolutely amazed he flew it for over four hours getting it to me, which I appreciated. But I was told by my A&P that it could have easily been a catastrophic failure. Not to mention the ELT which was dead as a door nail and had to be replaced. I know, due diligence....But here's the thing. It's nice when you can trust someone and take them at their word. It was my fault and I made a mistake which I'll never repeat. Bottom line is if you are going to buy a plane from this individual make sure you do a thorough inspection first. My impression was that both he and his mechanic would've said anything for a sale. I learned a valuable lesson and it cost me a lot but I was also sadly reminded that people with true integrity are hard to find. I don't dislike Mark at all and he's a helluva salesman and maybe one day I'll ask him to sell it for me. (No plans to ever sell it), but be warned....Thanks.
Tom, I've known Mark for 13 years and I've never heard him lie about anything, and I assure you that he doesn't need you to buy a plane from him. Every plane has multiple offers, no matter what condition they are in. The inspection likely checked the cylinders for compression and found them to be good. You can look in your logs to see if they were within specs.
Have you called Mark to discuss this? Have you asked the mechanic any questions? By the way, Mark doesn't have a mechanic working for him. He does recommend several to avoid any conflict of interest.
It's so unbecoming and disingenuous to handle this the way you have. You say you accept responsibility, but it sounds more like you are looking for someone else to blame for your decision. - Don the Camera Guy
Hi Tom, To put this into perspective. The Maule had a pretty much zero time engine. (180 HP Lycoming) I think it had 10 hours on it but it had been about 5 years and it had lived in Utah. It was annualled and flown here to Placerville (Northern California) Then it was here and I flew it a bit. We did a video on it of course. I flew it then as well. You bought it on condition that I deliver it to you so I did. I did not use sales pitch and the mechanic was not collaborating with me to make the sale. I did not even own the plane. I had no money tied up in it. It was a very nice plane. I'd never have flown it over the Sierras and the Rockies and the Great Salt lake if I'd know that it had some internal corrosion in the engine. Also, if an engine is like that all it needs is disassembly and inspection and replace as necessary. It does not need to be overhauled. The price difference between these two options is tens of thousands of dollars. Overhauling takes it back to zero time. It was already there. It just needed an IRAN (Inspect and Repair as Necessary) I advised you of this when you told me that the engine had corrosion. I gave you all kinds of time and money saving advice back then. I wish you had done it. A pre-purchase inspection and an annual neither require an engine boroscope. With 10 hours on it and a dry Utah history there was no need to do one because the compressions were excellent and it was not burning oil and there was no metal in the filter at annual. Also you cannot see the cam in a Lycoming without pulling off a cylinder and that was not necessary on an engine with 10 hours on it. This situation was bad luck and no-one could have known this. I'll sell it for you when you are ready at zero comission.
The Maule a always struck me, as having a Viking style tail.. similar anyway. Good looking aircraft nonetheless. And as always Mark, a very useful, well done presentation. Ps.. a good landing, didn't break anything, and you could still do the Capt. Morgan 😤
Cool, thanks
I would have loved for you to do a video on my Cessna 120, but alas as it is kept at NZAR I think it would run out of gas before getting to you. Keep up the great vids.
It's quite far.
Great video. Saw that plane for sale. Would love to go back to a smaller funner plane
You should!
Mark this is my favorite Aircraft because I’ve flown one with the 210 Continental IO-360-A
great looking aircraft
Thanks.
Good review of the Maule.
The rudder servo tab is an interesting feature.
Never knew about this despite having flown one a bit while a flight instructor. I guess I must have thought it was a trim tab.
Love the comment, 3 GPS's for some reason???
Initially I thought it was rudder trim in the traditional sense.
Had a 1985 MX7-235 for fifteen years...Essentially the M5 you have there with a Lycoming IO-540....The only gripes I had were climbing in and out of and at 6'2" the flap handle at full setting was very constraining....Looking for a 180 now....or a Courier if I can find one..lol
Yes, access is not as easy as a big doored Cessna.
Another Great aircraft review! I always look forward to viewing your video's. Mark I must say that objectively speaking, you are perhaps the most knowledgeable, informative and experienced aviation pilot / individual that I have found on the internet. I'm also really impressed with "Skywagon Universities" general format along with it's great editing etc. Bravo!
Excellent stuff bro
Glad you enjoyed it
Love the Maule's!!!
Hang up on the world. Your talking Maule here!
Excellent.
Would love a Maule, can't find hangar space out here. East coast went from 80's to frost in 2 days too. Thankfully no fires though! Nice video!
Thanks.
I was visiting a friend at Maule a little over 30 years ago, and was invited to put my C170B in the hangar for the length of my stay.
BD Maule walked up, looked over my 170 and said " Why didn't you buy a Maule?!?"
I made some weak excuse, then walked outside. My buddy Lawrence and I were shooting the breeze outside of the hangar door when I heard an engine start inside. My friend advised me to step away from the door opening, which I did.
Shortly afterwards, the engine inside went to full power and old man Maule had it in the air before he exited the door.
It didn't seem as dramatic as the famous photograph of him doing for an ad, but it was still mighty damn impressive.
Maule is pronounced like 'haul'.
That would have been fun to see. Was the 170 blown the the back of the hangar.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Didn't disturb any of the aircraft parked inside. It's a big hangar.
The sound was incredible!
Thats awesome! Ive been there so I can see how it could ve done! Would've loved to see that! I heard his wife made him stop it after he got off the ground to soon once and got pretty close to the top of the door😄
Yes, it's not evident from the famous picture but that hangar is 300 feet long from the front doors to the rear doors so basically the length of a football field.
Welcome back skywagons !!!
Thanks for another great video. Any plans to do a review on a Bellanca Super Viking?
Hi Steve! As soon as we can get access to a Super Viking, we will make the video.
Hey, you know there’s a little switch on the side of iPhones that mutes the ringer.😂😂😂
The ring is what reminds me to turn it off. Sorry.
Mark, love your landing face!!lol
Don't point it out, hardly anyone noticed. :-)
@@skywagonuniversity5023 you still have that unicorn?
@@justinparker7795 Yes I still have it. Look on www.skywagons.com
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Thank you Sr. have a great day!
Mark, I absolutely loathed the C207 we had.
It seemed to defy aerodynamic principles in that it wallowed down without gathering much speed at all (even with a load on) and was quite stable in a spiralling descent - resistant to picking up a wing.
Big old schoolbus a 207.
Looking forward to owner plane reviews.
The first will be a Meyers 200D and a rare 540 powered PZL when it's annual is done.
Great info
Thank you.
Always wondered about the road.
Like everyone else, hoping you don't run out of planes any time soon!
Cool plane !
Very
Butter that landing
Maule rhymes with "haul". I have a few hours in the M5-210C (not 201C - I believe it's for 210 horsepower Continental) - got my tailwheel endorsement in it - my good friend's airplane. The interconnected rudder is a weird thing. The gigantic fin also makes the airplane want to weathervane pretty strongly in a crosswind - although the rudder authority is plenty - you just have to really use it sometimes. It's a draggy airplane - reduce power and it's coming down! Very noisy with that prop and the high RPM required to make 210 horsepower from 360 cu-in - you could hear the noise breaking through the squelch on the intercom in this video - it's noisy!! The Maule is a plane designed more for economical production with basic materials and for operation (and repair) in the field than as an ultimate flying machine.
For reference, some C206s do have right-front doors - the P-model (P206). They have door configurations like the early C210s and the C205s. Doors on both sides of the front and a single large baggage door on the left. But the more common C206s are configured as you said with the pilot's door on the left front and double barn doors on the right rear.
The telephone ring, as usual! 😂😂😂😂
If the phone doesn't ring, was it really a Skywagon University video?
@@skywagonuniversity5023 of course........ noooooo! 😁😁😁😁😁
Nice vid. Minor complaints. You forgot the Franklin powered M4. It might have been the best of breed. You might have mentioned that the 235/260 hp Maules will run with 180s. I think you should have mentioned that Maules cost way less than their Cessna counterparts. Several IAs I know have told me annuals on Maules are much easier and faster, hence cheaper, than on Cessna counterparts.
Thanks for the info!
G, day Mark from Sydney, Australia.
You may have mentioned, "better off coming in fast than too slow."
Some pilots swear "reduce the plane's energy on touchdown".
My analysis
* speed for TOGA
* taxiways being some distance from RWY ends (leaving engine alone to cool)?
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How's roomy is it compared to a 180/182?
I have a Cherokee 235 where are you guys out of, im sure there's a couple people out there that would like to watch a video on one its been a great bird for me very practical besides getting in an out of!
We are located at Placerville (KPVF). Let us know if you are coming to see us.
That is very kind of you, but we did a 235 in with two other Cherokees recently. They are great planes.
Mark
Maybe it has been previously stated, but what is the strip elevation, please?
Placerville is at 2250 Feet. Summer can be 5500 DA.
It's an MX-5 and everyone knows that Miata is the answer to everything.
Man she looks better after the fish tail
There is an X right there in the N number... That might be why he says it.
Super interested in this aircraft but when I called Avemco they told me it was going to cost $5100 a year to insure…. I guess zero tail wheel time and a Maule don’t mix!
Yes, you need TW time and time in type. It's a vicious circle.
Haha thats who I just got a quote from!! They wanted $6,800 for me! My Bro n law whos my A&P says that insurance has gone nuts because of the big deal with all the Boeings being grounded. He said there was a part in the insurance in the fine print about in the rare event of type being grounded that they would pay out.. They didn't think they would ever have to because it had never happened.. Well since it happened its cost the insurance company/companies shit loads of money. But I always heard they were high for maules anyway. But Id talked to some guys online a few years ago and a couple were saying around 2,300 annually but they had tail wheel time under their belts.
Could you do a Champ to Citabria vid please. Thinking of buying one
I'd like to very much but I need one to come here.
Get metal spars in the one you buy.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Thanks, metal spar is definitely on the list.
How much does this sale for. Seems really nice.
About $100,000
How is the legroom and headroom?
It is much smaller than a 180 inside for pilot space and the door is smaller. Once you are in it is OK.
what prop was on that maule m 5 ????
The prop is a C203 McCauley set to turn at 2800 RPM to get the 210 HP. Cruises at 2400 RPM. Power is for take-off.
I'm 6'5'' and looking for an airplane large enough to get my PPL in "comfortably". Would this work? I would prefer to do my training in a taildragger. I don't really like the Cherokee or 172, they're barely big enough for me but this looks roomier.
You would have trouble fitting comfortably in it.
Yeah the struts are right in the way to swing in your legs.
I'm 6'3" and flew a 235-horse M5 with glass doors on air tours with the seat set all the way aft. You might be a bit uncomfortable. The back seats are super tight too, no way an adult could sit behind me with the seat set where I wanted it.
Are you gonna fly the Sportcopter M2 at all?
@Plant Power - Yes! As soon as they go into production. There are some additional tests being done, but it is close and we are looking forward to it! I should mention I've got a deposit on one, so look for some flying adventures featuring the M2 as soon as I get it. - Don the Camera Guy
Maule the uninsurable airplane
Your cellphone is ringing “again” 6:24
Always.
I can see why you did not show that landing from outside the plane Bounce Bounce. You could see it on your face ..
It was a bouncer.
I enjoy your videos greatly. I have an aviation related item that you may want to feature at some time. I will be calling you soon just to see if you are interested. Al
OK Thanks.
How much are those planes worth these days?
About $100,000.
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less useful load than the Cessna 206H but at a lower price
Try less yapping and more just showing
Turn your volume down if you don't like the "yapping" Then it's all "showing"
Great performing plane but I just can’t stomach how ugly Maules are. Couldn’t own it.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Thankfully I won’t be holding her. Sky wagons are gorgeous this thing looks like a cartoon. I’ll bet you in a pole the majority will agree.
What the hell!?! Ugly!?🤔 man.. the cool look of them Is what sold me! First one I ever saw was yellow with black stripes. The long sleek cowling looks so dang good! I was like, "I have to have one of those!" Had one bought in the next year! I think the fat blunt cowling looks hideous on cesnas.. But I like unique things. I absolutely hate buying whats extremely common like cesnas or a john deere🙄 for crying out loud..
Really bad info! Did you prep? You don’t even know how to pronounce the brand. You lost credibility when you said it had a yaw damper!
"like a yaw damper" aileron assist rudder synchronization. The "not knowing the pronunciation" was a joke because I have an accent. You should have more to do than comment like this don't you.
Well it does have a yaw damper.. Ive been around Maules and studied them and flown them and been around guys who own them and he did a great job. You probably cant even comprehend what a short stroke piston is. Because it makes more sense to say short stroke crank to me... 🤔 🤣