Kargil, America and Jehad; What is General Pervez Musharraf's legacy in Pakistan?
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2023
- What is the legacy of General Pervez Musharraf?
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I still remember Pakistani army didn't take back dead bodies of their soldiers during kargil war by declaring that they were mujhadin not Pakistani soldiers but later he acknowledged in his book that those were Pakistani soldiers.
ua-cam.com/video/V101LJO1mhc/v-deo.html proof
His legacy is abandoning his troops on Kargil, to be buried by Indian troops with full military honours, on godforsaken heights.
it's shocking how Pakistanis just pretend kargil didn't happen, it is the most significant geopolitical event between the countries in 30 years but it has been removed from Pakistani consciousness so thoroughly that many Pakistanis don't even count it as an indopak war.
Kargil put back peace initiatives by 30+ years and there is no accounting for it
It’s not just his legacy but an embedded habit of every Pakistani .. because it is supported by false text books and narratives generated by the elites who are supported by military because they want their people to be illiterate run away from truth …
For me, He destroyed any possible trust between India and Pakistan.
To all Pakistan,
He told you that it was a military victory and you believed him.😂😂😂
Good job.
Trust your generals.
Hahahaha indeed from Pakistan 🙂
@@shahidanusrat6086 🇮🇳🇵🇰😘
@@shahidanusrat6086 zaroor ek din hamare rishtey acche honge bas aap Nawaz Sharif ko power me laye
@@irfact398 imran khan zardari sharif sare civilians ache han bs kuch uper ke log peace nahi hone datay. Jase zardari bj india gaye phir mumbai attacks hoye phir nawaz sharif india gaye phir uri hoa phir imran ne kartarpur kia to pulwama hoa. Peace is not possible until these uper ke log are brought down.
@@aithshamqayyum7714 pehle Pakistan me extemism Kam karna hoga
In 1962 indian army loses war .The then army chief pran nath thapar resigned
1999 pakistan army loses kargil war and the army chief does coup and becomes head of state for almost a decade
See the difference
Good Dictator vs Bad Dictator...
Good Autocrat vs Bad Autocrat
Good Terrorist vs Bad Terrorist...
These confusions sums up Pakistan's problem.
Pakistani people (masses) never complained when "free money" was being brought in since decades in the form of aid/loans/grants. Now, when that free money is hard to come by, suddenly, everyone has become enlightened, awake and democratic.😂
"People get the leaders they deserve"
A person has a hundred more concerns. Think of you living your life or any other citizen. Concerned with providing for his family and making a living. It is not his job to worry about the good money or bad money. He didn’t even elect the leaders for crying out loud. His leaders elected themselves. What is he supposed to do ? Not complain when he can’t feed his family anymore. This only means that you have not seen hard times and are just a keyboard warrior
3years back as a stupid 19 years old "Pakistani", I said this to my teacher "sir ye to man'ne ki bat h Musharaf ne India ko tuff time dia" to which he replied "Pakistan ko b usne Bara tuff time dia"
India ko tuff time diya, tumhare soldiers ki dead bodies wapas nhi li kargil se.
@@manthan90 and shameless Indian state buried them on their own soil.
Should have let them lie in open and broadcasted their names and info in International media that if Pakistan wants it can take their bodies.
If you would have embarassed them infront of global stage maybe they would have thought twice before doing bomb blasts again.
Should have put on front page name and Ranks of all Pakistani soldiers.
Bhaiya you were stuck in kargil Not dominating it. Your post were falling one by one. Tough time diya🤦♂️🤦♂️
Saahi baat, jab bhikhariyo ki shaan hira Mandi Pakistan ne apne salwar pehene wale namazi ghazi aasique rasool Muslims ki dead body leene se mana kar diya tab india waalo ko unn ki Sadi gaali dead body se aati badboo ne bada tough time Diya tha 😂😂😂
O man u reminded me of laal masjid I saw it on PTV and the berricades could easily be seen fresh built without plaster and I said jokingly k yaar banda pluster to krwa le and my father slapped me and asked me ullu k pathe ajkal kin doston k sath uthta bethta he
Some quickly put together achievements of Gen Musharraf:
1. Destroying an on going peace process when India was considering giving up some land to resolve Kashmir issue.
2. Ensuring that India will never negotiate on Kashmir.
3. Engineering yet another crushing defeat of Pakistan Army in Kargill and inflicting the highest ever loss in all the wars between India and Pakistan.
4. Military coup in order to avoid a well deserved court martial and punishment.
5. Facilitating 20 year US War in Afghanistan for nothing in return.
6. Allowing US bases in Pakistan.
7. Eating up natural gas reserves of Pakistan in a 4 year period.
8. Zero growth in electricity and increasing load shedding from 1 hr a day to more than half a day.
9. Stopping industrial and agricultural growth forever and converting Pakistan into total import dependent country.
10. Expanding DHA to eat up the entire country.
11. Making the Greed reserved for Generals only available to all the officers passing out of PMA.
12. Chaudries of Gujrat
13. Missing persons .....
14. Endless murder stream including Bugti and Benazir
and worst of all
15. Imran Khan Niazi.
Nishan e Pakistan Gen Musharraf must be an an Indian mole planted by India in the Pak Military school. An old Delhi boy, it was decided by Raw to plant him in Pak and then RAW succeeded in making him a General and then President. A Democrat to the core, he succeeded in bringing a fellow Democrat, a particular Niazi as the PM in course of time.
This must be the best tribute to RAW.
Media in Pakistan learnt the hard way that TRP only will decide the sustainability of a media channel. But in the converse way! Lesser the TRP, the better. That is democracy of pakistan.
Agreed with all except the last one
@@fahd6757 are you denying that Imran khan is/was an army project?
Lol india would give part of kashmir or pakistan ? Kis Kushi mein ?
@@bharatkapoor4062 bhajipao wale peace ke lie bangaldesh ko khushi khushi me zamneen de die hai .. pakistan de dia ki momin yaha tang nhi krege. Kashmir ka hissa Dena koi badi baat nhi hai, temporary peace ke naam pe
Shahzad for the last time commenting on your post, just be mindful of the fact that with about 45% of the vote share you cannot call someone a fascist. As a Pakistani you can't fathom what elections are, but in india the constitution and law mean something, your silly choice of words is sadly reflected in your lack of intellectual capacity, your country deserves every bit of what you are getting, with citizens like you less said the better
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In last 8 months i have found some some real historical facts about Pakistan through this channel, Keep up the good work.
You're one of those people whose videos/podcasts I can watch irrespective of the length. More power to you and your amazing content ! Stay safe and keep it up bro !
@@ThePakistanExperience Dumb kid . By calling Azad Kashmir doesn't mean that Kashmiri (Pakistan side) have freedom. Your establishment(Fascist) dictate all affairs in Pakistan occupied kashmir.
1-Atleast you should know steps of U.N to Resolve kashmir issue.
2-And If all educated people like you in Pakistan, who lacks in critical skills , then Pakistan have a bright future.
I agree
100 %
It takes more than guts to speak out in Pakistan. Sir one of the best written n presented pieces out of Pakistan ever. Time Pakistan needed a youthful political force to change the status quo. Keep up the good work and I am sure this truth will prevail over time. Kudos for being truthful n genuine to the core. Pakistan has a lot to offer the world and it’s neighbours , it needs honest people to come forward and do the good work, the day one learns to separate state and religion , will your country forge ahead and live as one with the people of the world.
Wonderful video as always Shehzad :)
I've been quitely consuming your other podcasts, but I want to give this video a boost on the algorithm.
I felt as if I was the only one going mad seeing Musharraf sympathizers. Thank you for the historical recap; I'm in awe at how far we've come, and how far we still have to go to see a truly democratic Pakistan ❤❤❤
Gave me goosebumps. I spent most of my teenage in his era. This was so beautiful, so well made and felt so nostalgic and so personal. Great work Shehzad.
Pakistan military has radicalized Pakistan's society, exported the radical ideology to Kashmir and different parts of India, India's minorities like Jews, Parsis, Sikhs, Christian even Shias, Bohras, Ahmadiyaas & liberal Sunni muslims are living peacefully in the country because it is a Hindu Majority country, which teaches "Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam" - World is one family. Art. 370 abrogation is a positive step in restoring tht peace in the valley. Stop tolerating the intolerants does not make one's Fascist.
PS - I'm a kafir you can disagree with my point.
Savage 😂
Haha....they can never understand
@@nrj8241 yes ,we shouldn't expect them understand
It’s gives me goosebumps.
You are a true brave son of Pakistan,stay blessed.
Thanks for educating us❤.
One of the best video essays I saw made by a Pakistani in terms of comprehension and research.
You are doing the sort of work for us that I personally feel indebted to you for your time and commitment you put in your podcasts and such eye opening works.
All I can do is pray for your safety and health Shehzad bhai. ❤️
One of the very few podcasts from Pakistan of very high standard.
Desperate people look towards 'charismatic Men with a lot of confidence'. It doesn't matter 'what' they are doing as long as they are doing 'something'. This is what men like Musharraf do.
On a side note. Article 370 was included as a temporary provision in the indian constitution. Modi might be a fascist but his decision to remove of article 370 was correct decision. Hope the next left leaning government restores J&K's statehood.
Correction ....
Article 370 is temporary provision
If temporary means more than 70yrs then i don't know what temporary means
Yes it is. But to revoke the article there were provisions that the constituent assembly of J&K needed to approve it and the elected assembly pf J&K needed to approve it. It is unconstitutional act becz the assembly was not there and the state was under the tule of president. Brother to give you a reality check the people of J&K are not in favour of its revocation that is why a curfew was imposed for two years. Hope you get it.
@@Pseudo_Optimism bro it's the certain segment of society who profits by this art 370 and i think you know who they are..and tell me what good it brought to those PPL who got massacred,raped they are still live in refugee camp in there own country.. and those ppl who say that this kasmir belongs to them they should rethink coz this is the land of rishi kashyap and having population to claim land i don't agree with that logic.. it's our land and this PPL are invaders who tore my country,and it's our biggest mistake that we let them to reside my country...
@@viratthakur3302 Typical colonial mindset. Since when has the great republic of india become a theocracy whose constitutional moves are to satisfy the religious sentiment of a religious majority. It is not your land, and by invaders logic ,the lands of subcontinent belong to indigenous Adivasis . You too are an invader. This logic was given in the earlier times by British people who said we are here to civilise and you are saying you are here to claim your ancestral land. And you speak about the beneficiaries of 370 those were the same people who against the wishes of Kashmiri people did Indias bidding. Sorry to break your illusion bro but they don’t tell you the reality we Kashmir’s don’t have any sympathy towards the Indian nationalism as we have suffered under the context of imposing that nationalism on us. In a democracy the people should align with a nation by heart and not by force. If there was even a sparkle of consciousness left in your society you would have never denied us our birthright to choose what we want. Alas i know all in vain. Trying to convince someone of your mentality to come to reality with the ground situation is all in vain. The k- pundits suffered when the K issue was lingered against the wills of the people, for decades. And we still consider them a part of us who are free to cone back and live with us as we have coexisted for centuries together.
@@Pseudo_Optimism first there is difference between invasion and migration okay we don't come sitting on horses and killing ,raping PPL ,and if u say k pundits are lived for centuries but why they were massacred why they have been raped and why they were cut into pieces and it is not a whole they were there neighbour who did to them this whole community is mentally sick.. what happen to Pakistani hindus they were also lived for centuries whay happend to them .. and u PPL preach secularism untill unless you got into 40%of population and then doing the same what u get tought in madrassas...
@@viratthakur3302 you need to get yourself checked from a psychiatrist. You have been brainwashed by watsapp university. You lack back acumen to understand the issues at hand and you are hellbent on perpetuating your anti Muslim rhetoric. Sorry for your state of affairs brother i no longer have it in me to indulge with a man of your mentality. Good luck , for living with your disillusioned mindset.
A true Democrat as Gen Musharraf and a true autocrat as Modi. World's greatest democratic laboratory called Islamic Emirates of Pakistan (cocktail of Sharia, Ummah, and western concepts compares with the "autocratic Hindutva" kingdom of Hindustan, with Modi as it's head!!
With such a world view, Pakistan will attain Cennet in no time! 💐
Don't poke your nose in our internal affairs and worry about Turkish bankruptcy, inflation and natural disasters.
This video was truly a nut shell of the Pakistan experience in it's actuality ♥️♥️♥️
Absolutely enthralling ❤️
Modi is not a fascist. He is the most popular Prime Minister Hindustan has ever seen in the last 30-40 Years. He removed article 370 to start progress in the State which you will see in the next 5-10 years. PM of any country needs to think about his own people & not what the enemy state of India, Pakistan thinks about him.
Islamic ideology is fascists
Only problem with this marvelous piece of work of yours is the medium of communication. English is understandable to me but not for many in Pakistan. Make an urdu version of this too. To remove the blind folds from as many eyes as possible. Apart from that, excellent work.
@@braveheart8318 Yeah Right. Thanks for sharing this wisdom. This secret will serve for an eternity. My highgly educated and literate fella.
@@braveheart8318 Only if you insist.
We may disagree on many things, and I remember praising your work and criticizing you and your work on Twitter at the same time. We may have other intellectual disagreements. But my man, I do admire your bravery, resilience and consistency. Brother, Stick by your opinions and perspective, never let anyone convince you to change any of your opinion or facts. But I also acknowledge and appreciate your tolerance on when I criticize you. You have gained my respect and I feel honoured and respected that you give me the same attention when I criticize your work or opinion or when I appreciate it. God bless you and I hope you succeed in what you are achieving for. I love you 💓💓💓
This is one of the best videos I have seen lately. Loving your courage, and skills. and research. Keep making more awesome essays like this
Kashmiris are secular people and they fully support indian govt. Like TTP doesn't represent whole Pakistan similarly some kashmiri militants doesn't represent while of kashmir. I have kashmiri friends who live in border areas with pakistan and are proud indians.
Uff, excellent video. Kay bat hai! Objective, clear message, simple worded narration of complex issues. This video is a 5 star and I agree 100% with your perspective
A very powerful narrative!
I condemn his description of Modi ji as a " fascist"
What a fantastic and heart wrenching video. Great work!
Another great video! Don't stop making these!
This is an incredible video essay! Your finest work to date!
Totally agree. His finesh work so far.
Please keep making content like this , this was one of the best video essay I have watched more power to you
Even in india when i asked a muslim what is first for you quran or constitution they say quran when the same question was asked with hindu they said constitution that's the difference if your people didn't respect your constitution how you expect your leaders to respect your constitution you can't run a country with 1400 year old law we are developing according to situation we need to change in law
these essays are so needed.
Very poignant, well thought out piece. One can only hope that collectively we are wiser as a nation. Thank you for speaking out the truth. Do an Urdu version too, everyone needs to hear this.
Ye Cheez ... Finally Shehzad!!!!
We need more educational videos than PODCASTS of influential people telling half-truth stories. Best of Luck bro!
As a student of History and Politics at Cambridge, I can suggest topics that can help Pakistanis to come out of the Militarization mindset.
We need to STEP up and HELP poor Pakistanis who do not even know their real identity. Lemme Know!
Bye!
Incredible work! Couldn't appreciate more!!
Wonderful work... Much appreciated
Awesome narration i am not Pakistani but ur voice take me as I living this all thanks that I can feel the pain of 20 crore Pakistani citizen Bravo and Bravo and Bravo and Bravo
@@ThePakistanExperience don't think as my name suggests i always think for my country first so that is that but I always see your video for the prospective other think I always find you unbiased
@@ThePakistanExperience or Haan 4 crore i left the elite
Great video Shehzad. Love this format btw. Should do more on different topics!
Great video shahzad but just a little correction Gen Shahid Aziz wasn’t the DG ISI it was Lt Gen Khawaja Ziauddin Butt !
I think Gen. Shahid aziz was DG military operations..
This is one your best videos. Keep up the good work!
Fantastic video! Love the commentary!
Can you please tell me which software you used for video editing?
This is your finesh work on this channel so far!
Absolutely amazing video. I gained interest in politics just after watching TPE. please translate it in urdu as well for those who have difficulty understanding english.
You need make more videos like this. This was a masterpiece ❤❤❤❤
Incredible presentation. Super compelling narrative. Good job son.
Well done Shehzad. One of your best. Well researched.
Aap bahut accha kaam kar rahe hain. May God bless you. Sanity and courage are hard to find and you display both quite often.
People who have never met a kashmiri or ever landed a foot in Kashmir, has no right to call who is a fascist or who is not? Kindly look forward to your country and its situation and learn the defination of fascism before questioning the vote of a populous who has more weight than the entire population of the "islamic" state of Pakistan. Thank you
This is lahori churan fed to them through out their childhood so... Don't expect much bro 😂
Are bolne do inko fasict modi saala inke pass hai jammu ka part aur bolte usko azad kashmir hai na azad hai na kashmir. Khudh ka mulk Jinnah ne banaya hai wo khudh direct action day mein riots karwaya tha.
Not his fault most of pakistanis like him follows what the left lunatics and izlamist from India writes and says in India and western media. They simple just invite most left lunatics from India and none from right wing. Typical desi liberals. 😅
You don't need to live in a country to critique it's leadership structure. It's downright moronic considering almost none of the historians today lived in Nazi Germany or Stalin's Russia.
Secondly, using whataboutism to weasel out of an argument is pathetic really. Even a child could see the faulty logic being employed. However, I shouldn't have expected basic intellect from a Bakht. Feel free to keep embarrassing yourself though.
@@nitinchoudhary3907 You bought the commentator's faulty logic yet whine about SGS being fed churan? Imagine being so stupid that you fail to recognise the inherent contradiction at play. 🤡
Mate, even a child could see the logical fallacies being employed yet you're here embarrassing yourself. 😂
An absolutely brilliant video essay, Shehzad, absolutely brilliant.
Absolutely loved thisssss!! Please make more of this! Kisi din please Zia ul Haq pe bhi banayein, it would be awesome
Man it is an awesome video. Please make an exact translation of it into Urdu so that it could reach every common Pakistani. And we need more of this stuff.
very good journalism. keep up the good work.
This video was very insightful for me, Thank You Shahzad Bhai 😇
I would love to see more videos like these from you. Keep up the good work bro
I second, keep these coming !
Dude, such a powerful video. You make the underrated point that people should understand and comprehend the past in order to understand he present. Brilliant...and almost existential in its tone.
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An amazing video! I learned a lot about the impact of Musharraf on the history of Pakistan....
This was such a badly needed video - Thanks Shehzad for your efforts on this -
Why blame Musharraf alone? What about the million "patriotic" elite Pakistanis --- in the Army, Civil Services, Press, Judiciary and the wealthy landed gentry that supported him? If any one of these groups had implacably opposed him he could never have survived as dictator. After all, it was just a revolt of lawyers that finally brought him down. The basic idea of "one-person-one-vote" democracy never took hold in Pakistan from its inception, much to its existential detriment. A large and diverse country, where certain groups have extreme privileges and others have none cannot survive for long. "A house divided against itself cannot stand", as Abraham Lincoln said.
Amazing courage to create content like this. Loved the narration.
Correct me if I'm wrong but did I hear you call Akbar Bugti as Akhtar?
Very Informative ❤️👍
Good Job Shahzad! if possible keep posting these documentaries and also please do it in urdu as well.
The style of the video, its presentation is so cool mann.
Very well done, Shehzad. Loved this format and story-telling.
Wonderfully explained sir, just outstanding
as always superb work'
Summed up to perfection!
Awesome video essay Shahzad!
The moment you call Modi a fascist, you lose any credibility you have. I'm sure you have never met him. But, somehow you read a few things here and there and now you *KNOW* with such conviction that he is a fascist. What a Joke yaar.
Pakistani are azeem kaum, Pakistani have jazba. Muslims have iman and Pakistani have iman. Pak Army no 1 in world, ISI no 1 in world. Pakistan is made for kalma, even Saudi Arabia is not made for kalma. Insha Insha General Lal Tope will start Gawaza a Hind and Pakistani sabaj parcham will fly in Delhi. Insha Insha Sharia law for Pakistan. As per Pak Studies Pakistan was made 1400 years ago and Pakistan ruled Hindustan for 1000 years. Insha Insha Masha Masha.
Keep these videos coming,Shehzad!!!!
Excellent content...shukriya
I love this channel. The anchor is a deep thinking intellectual unafraid to speak truth to power. I wish we had such a clear thinking intellectual challenging Modi in India
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Make more informative and critical videos, this one was totally worth the time. Great work.
brialliant work man
Thank you Shahzad 🙌
Excellent narration, emotional and emphatic also with so much fact
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Very well put Shahzad.
really good roundup.
Good content and nice video. It would be wonderful to do it in Urdu, so that the majority of the general public can also benefit. Thanks
Very informative episode 👏🏻
I was hoping for the video to be in Urdu as it can reach a wide audience but still great work
I love this format lkin agr yhi bat Urdu mn kr dty toh zyada lgn ka faida ho jta shyd Mn apny Papa sy ye video share krna cha rhi lkin sirf language barrier ki wja sy nhi kr skti lkin otherwise excellent content as always
Popcorn worthy content! another Banger by Shehzad! GG man!!!
This also happened with our judiciary in India during Emergency by Indira Gandhi
Informative, but as an Indian I find calling Mr. Modi a Fascist unfair and outright biased.
amazing work Sir 💯👏
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phenomenonal video king. loved it
This is one of your best 👌 do it in Urdu please so masses can hear 🙏
Respect, Pakistan needs more People like you, Muzammil and Adeel, well done.
Thank youu
bro this is just brilliant ..
I respect your views, but how can you say modi is occupying kashmir. Maharaja of J&K signed integration documents with India after Pakistan sent the militants. And article 370 is temporary part of Indian constitution, and Indian parliament have the right to make changes.
Really liking this new change to the Channel. A breath of fresh air :d
Wow !! Great stuff bro. Would love to watch a video on Lawlessness in Karachi during 90s. The sectarian violence, the Muhajir genocide ... got to learn a lot here. Thanks.
Modi is no fascist. I think you are a good reporter so do see the channels and You Tubes from Kashmiri Muslims
They have 0 idea about India or any normal stuff like democratic values , laws this is the Pakistani mindset get used to it , i for 1 don't even care about the small stuff anymore
Like the narration. Bottomline he made your country look like that deer that freezes in front of a headlight. He talked big delivered minimum. When I hear folks say his rule was golden Era it blows me. He outright looted you all and without saying much flew away to Dubai got himself a penthouse on Sheikh Zayed Road. That's excatly what every general in Pakistan has done. Too late to get out of this anyway. Enjoy while whatever lasts cause 75 precious years have just been wasted.
@@braveheart8318 - yes, let the suffering continue. Ameen. Subanallah, Halamdullah, Inshallah. 🙂
Keep up the good work bro ,