some people are saying this car looks ugly or boring... and keep asking for "Agressive lines". Here is a hint: you are not the target market. This car looks classy. Not flashy. Want flash go with mazda. Saving up for one of these beauties.
I still think that these cars look boring. It's not classy, just devoid of any personality in my mind. The older 2001-2005 Passats pulled off that simple yet classy look quite well. I didn't do as well as I would have liked on that front.
I've got a 2013 3.6 and love it. It's a rocket on the highway and I actually find it pretty quiet as well. It also hits the 33 mpg highway EPA without much trouble. That being said, I like it so much because my commute is all highway. If my commute changes to city, I don't think I will get another unless they make AWD available with the 3.6. 280hp and FWD is frustrating at times, particularly in wet weather. It's difficult to get the power down in 1st gear and accidental wheelspin is common.
My 2014 SEL TSI is so quiet.. I live in Florida and we have good roads.. I came from a Lexus IS350 and no the Passat TSi SEL does not have the power, but with traffic... speed does not get you anywhere.. If you try to drive crazy and pass cars, you will just see the same cars at the next stop light.. I every once in a while do enjoy flooring her and get going and she does... but I love this car so much.. She's to stylish, roomy an everything else.. I HIGHLY recommend this car... put 5k miles on her and love my baby the day i got her..
I can totally stand by what he says about backseat leg room. The auto mechanics program at my school has two 2012s that they use for educational purposes. I'm almost 6 feet tall with really long legs, i sat in the back seat once, and noticed that i had about 4 inches of extra leg room, before my knees would touch the seatback. It totally blew me away. It's very big on the inside.
I have a 14 with the same engine and the body roll is the worst I’ve ever felt in a sedan, throw on a stiffer anti roll bar and you’ve got a fantastic car
I just bought a 2014 VW in tip top shape. Inside looks brand new. 1 owner. Black. Everyone saw my car and was just blown away. I really got a good deal on this car. It is very quiet. I am still tickled that I got a great deal. Plus I look good driving this baby. I name all my cars She is black beauty just liked the owner. Lmao I am so not arrogant just being me.
I am on my second have not had any reliability issues with either. If my wife had not written off my 2002 Jetta Diesel we would still own it. 155,000 km on original brakes. 130,000 on original tires. Never needed a major repair. Change the fluids regularly, follow the book. How much more reliability do you need? Now my 2011 Jetta Diesel is doing well and has never needed anything but regular service.
Glad your VW's have been reliable. Save for my 1973 super beetle, my 1988 Jetta and 2003 Passat fit the CR repair curve, which is to say on low end of spectrum.
Jaime San Miguel That's to bad. After owning Honda and Toyota in the early 2000's, I must say I am happier with the VW fit and finish and well we'll see where we go with the 2011 I have now.
Towndrunk26er My 2003 Passat had terrific fit and finish. But don't get me started on the reliability of that car. Thank god it was a lease! That car visited the VW dealer 10 times in the three year period I had it! And my then new 1988 jetta had quite a few dealer visits before getting totaled!
Jaime San Miguel I understood that. At least you don't die in a VW like you might in GM or Toyota due to manufacturing flaws. I'll take my life and a bit of unreliability over those cars any day. :)
Original owner of my 2014 SE w/roof 1.8 EA 888 engine. 116, 429 trouble free mileage. Zero squeaks, or rattles, just replaced original rear brakes. Still have original plugs and ignition coils AND wiper blades. You can't convince me that my car isn't reliable. So far it's been bullet proof. Road noise? My Honda and Toyota's were MUCH noisier and not nearly as reliable or substantial in construction.
Maybe if VW made them available to rental fleets, more people would try them out and buy them or recommend them to a friend, buy you never see one at any rental lot, I guess they want to remain "exclusive" Yeah! exclusively sitting in the dealer's lot.
tanarvis tennant There's a reason for this - fleets do NOT want unreliable cars that have sit idle for repairs or to infuriate customers when they break down on the road.
@@oldtwinsna8347 the 2.5 liter 5 cylinder was actually very reliable. Now the rest of the car ...buahahahaha! Struts failing, rubbers hardening, plastic hoses going brittle, AC going out all the time. Great car though. I’m a VW owner so I love them even with all the reliability issues but see why rental agencies stayed away from them.
Hey y’all, I’m looking at a 2014 Passat TSI (SEL I believe), with highline trim. It’s just under 110,000km. It’s going for 9,900 CDN (roughly 7k American). Love the looks of this car. I have an avg 50km commute for work. Is there anything I should be wary of at that mileage? Is 110km starting to get too old or should it have lots of life left? Also does the price sound fair? Thanks!
I totally disagree about the Passat being road noisy. My 2013 is anything but road noisy. I also disagree that the Passat is like a sports car when winding the roads although I have 17 inch tires and that one has 18's. But that alone would not make it a BMW. I have the Diesel so that 184 ft/lbs of torque might seem tame since I have 236 ft/lbs (I also average 37MPG combined). Camry and Accord are "me too" cars, the Passat is a nice change and the one piece steel doors (Camry and Accord take note) give me confidence and security as does the fact that in all probability I would not burn to death in a bad accident (thank you diesel) (R.I.P. Paul Walker).
American version of Passat is some oldy or more like Chinese version of WV Santana in compare to this new one Passat 2015 which now come on Europe market with some interesting engines!!
I think you touched on some of the reasons this car has selling issues, some your didn't: - It is bland looking inside and out, the competition is more flashy or the new models of competition has turned more flashy - The trunk closing and crushing issue, you may think "just don't put stuff there" but there are others who simply wouldn't buy it like that because it's a stupid design. - The ride can't decide if it wants to be "german feel" or to floaty. Noise on the highway can be a no-no with the competition, ask Mazda - Main one to me, reliability. VW's are not known for it and when warranty expires the costs get retarded. Good points: - TDI (some would consider it a negative with prices down south) - Back seat room. The negatives are a bit to high imo. Great review btw
The old Volkwagen Passat did not have a 2.5 liter 5-cylinder engine producing 170 hp, that is what the jetta has. The older Passats had a 2.0 liter 4-cylinder turbo charged engine producing 200 hp.
Maybe I missing something being in the UK but the Passat is the best buy in the saloon sector here (UK) followed by the Mondeo with no "VW reliability" problems. Of course the UK is hatchback mad and they sell far more Golf's/etc. VW's do not have any more reliability issues than any other make in the UK why so much mention of it? What do you guys do to them in the US? Oh yes I buck the trend by owing (and enjoying) a 2007 MK5 Jetta Sport TDI 140ps great car very reliable and I think better cars than the Golf as bigger and cheaper to buy. Just wish we could buy the Jetta GLI model :( never been available in the UK or a proper GTI model.
I'm bewildered too. Volkswagen is the best selling manufacturer in Europe and far outsells Toyota and Honda there. If VWs are so unreliable, you'd think buyers there would have clued in by now.
VW dealership "mechanics" in the US have little idea how to work on VW cars. Additionally, it seems auto maintenance is nonexistent in the United States. I mean I see people driving on underinflated tires look very low (meaning they are really low). Chinese cities rely on VW's for taxi duty. The past few years in Shanghai I've seen VW's with over 300,000 miles on original engines. All the drivers tell me proper preventive maintenance is the key. It is. A car is a complex machine; neglecting simple stuff like oil changes leads to expensive problems down the road. Owners try to save $60 every 6000 miles, but they end up forking over thousands more on expensive repairs. VW will outlive Honda or Toyota if they're taken care of. I had a 1986 VW Quantum 1.8L with a 5MT that just broke 700,000 miles before it was totaled by a distracted driver. Otherwise it would have probably done another 100k miles easily. I simply changed the oil every 3000-4000 miles, replaced parts before they fail, and check the car over every month. By giving the car the care it needs it will be reliable. Great cars. I would definitely buy another one, and the recent Takata scare for Japanese cars serves as more reason to buy VW.
nigahiga6400 That probably explains why Lexus usually comes out on top in the reliability surveys - Lexus recommends that their cars be serviced every 5000 miles or six months which is more than twice as often as their European competitors. www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2008-lexus-is-f-long-term-road-test-maintenance-and-fuel-costs-page-2
Nawaf Alaroj Loud, clunky, unreliable, and lower-end fuel efficiency. Still a nice engine especially compared to other engines of its time, but the new 1.8L is a very respectable engine.
I like your review but the part you say that the car not start right away with the push button is stupid! Why? Because it’s a diesel and need recycle for injectors before start it’s simple
Despite your efforts to remain positive, VW has a long way to go to create a RELIABLE car that offers a good value for the money. 9th place? Sounds about right.
It's gonna be a money pit. FYI the website is wrong about those powered seats. It's 8 way adjustable, not 12. This is an old circa early 2000 engine with some tweaks. The only one to consider is the TDI.
I've driven this car with the 1.8T and I own a 2004 Passat with the 1.8T. The current 1.8T does not feel at all like the same engine, which is not a good thing at all. The engine seems less refined and doesn't make a nice noise. And the way the car pulls you can hardly tell that there's a turbo. Really though, this car has just lost everything that makes me love my 2004 Passat which is really unfortunate, because I'm looking to get a new car and this won't be on my list. I fully understand why this car is 9th on the list.
I have 2014 Tdi and I like everything on this car but suspension. As he mentioned this car floats and bobs even on the clean paved road and it's annoying. But the handling and space and MPG you get with TDI is just too good..
Most say Its unrelible and boring but they didn't drive the real 2017 HighLine and the 2012 ComfortLine they are Relible and has a 7 Speed DSG Automatic
This is not an "new" 1.8T. If you remember back early 2000's this was the engine for the Passat and other cars in the line up. Then VW went with the 2.5 and now is back to the 1.8T This is not a direct infection new engine, is a repackaged old one being sold as new. VW does that a lot. While the Japanese (Mazda and others) have new technology. Koreans! Have direct injection and much more efficient turbos (1.6 with 200 HP)......plus the maintenance costs!!!!!
Actually this is a completely different engine. It simply has the same displacement. Also this new 1.8T is direct injected. I've driven this car with the 1.8T and own a 2004 Passat with the 1.8T and I can tell you that the 1.8T is a completely different engine...and not nearly as good. I was very disapointed.
i have a 14 model TSI. Its a pretty damn good car! I love the driving feel, he's right when he said you know what the car's doing and yes hit the turbo mode and the car eggs you like crazy. The style.. i got the tsi (which is tech. the base) for 23k. only had bluetooth. The car looks better WITHOUT THE CHROME HONESTLY!throw in the spokane wheels and it looks gorgeous!! technology is the ONLY DOWNSIDE. BUT VW touchscreens suck, your better off getting an aftermarket pioneer
it's really looks a great and amazing car what about the road noise and the heat bear am living in a very host country the climate at July and August may hits the 57 to 64 degree is it designed to meet this kind of weather thanks
You talk about ride quality is too soft, and I agree! Well, thank VW America....not VAG in EU! The OEM struts and shocks installed in NMS are by Sachs "Hecho en Mexico" and they sucked!!!! At 60k on 4 year owned 2014 just changed my brakes.....AND swapped all shocks to Made in Germany Bilstein. Presto! The soft squishy ride is gone, now it drives super tight with crisp dampening of the smallest to biggest bumps like a champ!!! Go Bilstein! It is literally like I am driving a different car, even the steering feels tighter through the turns......bet made in Germany VW Passat B7 is not fitted with the same junk they threw in the U.S. NMS version....just a guess.
Just picked up a 2014 B7 Executive Style Estate version. 6 speed Manual, 2.0TDi Bluemotion, 55k on the clock. lowered suspension from the factory running 18" kansas alloys with 235 tyres... the ride is probably slightly worse than smaller wheel and tyre variants on general roads but that's offset for me by the awesome motorway experience and tighter handling. Love this car so much!.
Wouldn't dispute much about what you state here, except the "noise" you're SPECULATING about... In my 2015 Limited, it's as quiet as a library, so maybe I need hearing aides or your So-Cal roads suck more than my Nor-Cal :)
From the moment the guy started talking s**t about the Fünf Zylinder, I couldn't take this review seriously. American people need to learn more about the Five Cylinder legacy. Smh. I thumbs down for that.
I wouldn't consider a Passat because my family owned a 1999 Passat that was a mechanical nightmare. Check engine light was on more that the door ajar light. Not only that, but getting things fixed on it cost three times as much as they would have cost to get fixed on a Camry.
Garbage. It used to be my favorite brand in the 90 and 2000's. Had several Golfs and Jettas. Now I would not touch it. This is my very last choice in the family sedans.
My 2014 VW Passat has been the biggest piece of shit I’ve ever owned. It’s been in the shop nearly every month I’ve owned it for 9 months. Only 114K miles on it when I bought it. Do yourself a favor and buy Toyota or Ford
They are very different vehicles. Alot of sound dampening has been removed and I think the interior is also a lower quality compared to the Euro version.
Brian B You're talking about an old-model TDI engine that has been historically plagued with issues and was designed 10+ years ago, not the new 2014-2015 TSI 1.8-2.0L that VW has completely redesigned. The new engines are simply awesome.
VW needs to work on reliability and a campaign to combat it. Assuming they ever get their cars in working order, something needs to be offered to appease new customers such as a new replacement vehicle on the spot for ANY serious mechanical problem you encounter within the warranty period. Else, nobody is ever going to take these cars seriously. VW, people who buy these cars are not the same demographic as those who buy BMWs and Mercedes. You are competing mainly against Honda and Toyota, two reliability powerhouses that will bitch slap you into the corner when it comes to having a problem free car.
Volkswagen is much more reliable and fast car....japanese car is too slow and break right away when u abuse it...volkswagen i is built to lasts forever with abuse fast driving....
***** german car or italian car of course not your shitty cheap japanese car because japanese car never beat german cars or italian cars in any races... in nuernburg this year 1,2,3,4 were all benz and 5 is audi and 6 was honda this year lol....there is still huge technological gap so just because you can only afford japanese car don't say ridiculous things you made of and know nothing of...
***** lol don't say ridiculous thing...japanese cars never beat german cars in any racings...you are poor who can only afford cheap japanese car so you say what you can afford is the best...
***** lol japanese cars are cheap for poor people like you who can't afford to buy german cars...japanese cars never beat german cars in any races before....there is huge technological gap between german cars and japanese cars....
passat are bad reliability. I have heard tons of complaints about them some from people. not to mention ugly looks the same as other passats and it clunks into gear this dude says. really? haha
Volksvagen actually last forever with fast driving abuse...japanese cars are too slow and break right away with abuse....it only last as long when u drive slow and carefully...
polychronio LOL hmm Japanese cars have been the most quality cars on the road for years. including lexus, honda, toyota. but ok you think your right so ok. LOL
God VW makes ugly cars. I liked their early models way better. This thing looks so cheap. Zero appeal. Give the car some aggressive lines or something.
pretty much these days, every car company has made some really ugly cars, and they all look pretty much the same because they want that "American" appeal. In my opinion, the Passat's body style sure beats the ugly Ford Fusion and Toyota Camry. The Honda Accord looks nice though.
I totally agree. I think the accord is the better looking car in this class hands down. But the accord models prior were terrible looking for the last 12 years. About time they nailed it.
Every car company has their dark ages. Even General Motors had theirs this past decade and almost went into bankruptcy in 2008 and now are pulling out of it. Their new 2014 Chevy Impala got a score of 95 out of 100, making it the first American car to get such a score in 20 years.
some people are saying this car looks ugly or boring... and keep asking for "Agressive lines".
Here is a hint: you are not the target market. This car looks classy. Not flashy. Want flash go with mazda.
Saving up for one of these beauties.
totally agreed.
its a very sophisticated looking car. not fancy like those japanese koreans.
I still think that these cars look boring. It's not classy, just devoid of any personality in my mind. The older 2001-2005 Passats pulled off that simple yet classy look quite well. I didn't do as well as I would have liked on that front.
PIchillin456 *This didn't do as well as I would have liked on that front.
I agree. I hate the huge grilles that are so prevalent these days.
I have a 2012 Passat and I think it is a wonderful car. It is very reliable.
Dora Flores still reliable?
Is it for sale or not, how much is it priced
I have 2000 Passat 1.8 T. Still reliable and still on the road, and still rust free and still the bullet. Alhumdulillah
I just bought a 2014 passat TSI SE and I absolutely love it
How is it going now?
I actually have a 2014 Hyundai Elantra limited and I love already!!
@@blakebrown2070 What happened to the Passat?
Erehistruth I got rid of it I have a 2014 Hyundai Elantra limited SE Sport...way better deal...it has everything you can want in a small sedan
Just got this car last week, it feels way faster than it is and it looks badass with tinted windows
How many miles and reliable?
I've got a 2013 3.6 and love it. It's a rocket on the highway and I actually find it pretty quiet as well. It also hits the 33 mpg highway EPA without much trouble.
That being said, I like it so much because my commute is all highway. If my commute changes to city, I don't think I will get another unless they make AWD available with the 3.6. 280hp and FWD is frustrating at times, particularly in wet weather. It's difficult to get the power down in 1st gear and accidental wheelspin is common.
If you want AWD you should trade her in for a VW CC. The CC has available 4motion on the 3.6
Guess those 11 dislikes are from his wife.
My 2014 SEL TSI is so quiet.. I live in Florida and we have good roads.. I came from a Lexus IS350 and no the Passat TSi SEL does not have the power, but with traffic... speed does not get you anywhere.. If you try to drive crazy and pass cars, you will just see the same cars at the next stop light.. I every once in a while do enjoy flooring her and get going and she does... but I love this car so much.. She's to stylish, roomy an everything else.. I HIGHLY recommend this car... put 5k miles on her and love my baby the day i got her..
I can totally stand by what he says about backseat leg room. The auto mechanics program at my school has two 2012s that they use for educational purposes. I'm almost 6 feet tall with really long legs, i sat in the back seat once, and noticed that i had about 4 inches of extra leg room, before my knees would touch the seatback. It totally blew me away. It's very big on the inside.
this is the only review that stated the passat had a problem with noise. try driving an Accord, Mazda6, or Altima and see what happens.
I'm liking this car, maybe my first car 😁
OH i own a 2015 Passat SEL premium.. and its so quiet.. I came from a 2007 Lexus IS350 and its so much more quiet! I love my Passat!!
+Bryan Lust No its not going to be as fast.. but whats the point with the way traffic is now days..
Hi!, How are you liking your Passat still? Im considering getting one but have heard they're in the shop a lot. Have you had any issues with yours?
Nice review. I like your style. Good background music. Nothing annoying. lol
I have a 14 with the same engine and the body roll is the worst I’ve ever felt in a sedan, throw on a stiffer anti roll bar and you’ve got a fantastic car
all you people that complain about VW reliability forget that VW has more vehicles on the road with over 100,000 miles than any other manufacturer
Nicolas Johnston I doubt that . I see more Toyota brands on the road
@@stashouse617 If you've seen it, it must be absolute truth. What else have you seen?
I just got one that runs diesel :) I love it
I also got a TDi Passat about a great ago. How do you like it now?
I wish mine was diesel. Big advantage
I just bought a 2014 VW in tip top shape. Inside looks brand new. 1 owner. Black. Everyone saw my car and was just blown away. I really got a good deal on this car. It is very quiet. I am still tickled that I got a great deal. Plus I look good driving this baby. I name all my cars She is black beauty just liked the owner. Lmao I am so not arrogant just being me.
hopefully this year im going to buy this car as well as my first(i'm 18 by the way )
The subtle styling definitely served this car well over time. It still looks top notch in 2020, especially in black. Very classy
@@HieronymousLexfor sure, I have a 2019, the last year of this gen and it looks much newer than the design is
Reliability is always Volkswagen's Achilles heel. You wonder why none of these reviews bring that factor into play...
I am on my second have not had any reliability issues with either. If my wife had not written off my 2002 Jetta Diesel we would still own it. 155,000 km on original brakes. 130,000 on original tires. Never needed a major repair. Change the fluids regularly, follow the book. How much more reliability do you need? Now my 2011 Jetta Diesel is doing well and has never needed anything but regular service.
Glad your VW's have been reliable. Save for my 1973 super beetle, my 1988 Jetta and 2003 Passat fit the CR repair curve, which is to say on low end of spectrum.
Jaime San Miguel That's to bad. After owning Honda and Toyota in the early 2000's, I must say I am happier with the VW fit and finish and well we'll see where we go with the 2011 I have now.
Towndrunk26er My 2003 Passat had terrific fit and finish. But don't get me started on the reliability of that car. Thank god it was a lease! That car visited the VW dealer 10 times in the three year period I had it! And my then new 1988 jetta had quite a few dealer visits before getting totaled!
Jaime San Miguel I understood that. At least you don't die in a VW like you might in GM or Toyota due to manufacturing flaws. I'll take my life and a bit of unreliability over those cars any day. :)
Hood strut...nice
great car, great review. definitely under appreciated. drives better than accord, camry or altima
VW makes good cars
THANK YOU....I was interested in finding out how to collapse the rear row (for a trip to Ikea). Love the review.
Thank you! We just test drove a Passat. Great info!
Wow, i have one and your review its super accurate.
You should've raced the Passat CC that passed you at 8:30 min. mark. lol
I agree with the motion in the ocean but, it’s fun to drive.
Original owner of my 2014 SE w/roof 1.8 EA 888 engine. 116, 429 trouble free mileage.
Zero squeaks, or rattles, just replaced original rear brakes. Still have original plugs and ignition coils AND wiper blades.
You can't convince me that my car isn't reliable. So far it's been bullet proof.
Road noise? My Honda and Toyota's were MUCH noisier and not nearly as reliable or substantial in construction.
Maybe if VW made them available to rental fleets, more people would try them out and buy them or recommend them to a friend, buy you never see one at any rental lot, I guess they want to remain "exclusive" Yeah! exclusively sitting in the dealer's lot.
Totally agree. I work with Enterprise and we barely see 1 of these.
tanarvis tennant There's a reason for this - fleets do NOT want unreliable cars that have sit idle for repairs or to infuriate customers when they break down on the road.
I drove one from Alamo rent-a-car. It was a wonderful car to drive 1,700 miles in.
tanarvis tennant hertz sales them
@@oldtwinsna8347 the 2.5 liter 5 cylinder was actually very reliable. Now the rest of the car ...buahahahaha! Struts failing, rubbers hardening, plastic hoses going brittle, AC going out all the time. Great car though. I’m a VW owner so I love them even with all the reliability issues but see why rental agencies stayed away from them.
this is perfect family sedan, why would someone buy an accord or an camry
The engine noise when he was accelerating on the highway was terrible. The old 2.5 sounded like Viper.
Love my Passat TDI
I own a 14 Passat TSI SE and I love it
Just bought one on carvana.havent got it yet. Thanks for the review
Hey have you had a doc light come on only when u start sometimes then go off once you turn car off
Hey y’all, I’m looking at a 2014 Passat TSI (SEL I believe), with highline trim. It’s just under 110,000km. It’s going for 9,900 CDN (roughly 7k American). Love the looks of this car. I have an avg 50km commute for work. Is there anything I should be wary of at that mileage? Is 110km starting to get too old or should it have lots of life left? Also does the price sound fair? Thanks!
Thanks very good video I got one today for 9000$
I love the Volkswagen Passat
This is a great car. The only problem i have with it is that you need specialized tools to replace the rear brake pads
is elegant but love my Tiguan
The new volkswagen passat has a biturbo engine with 4-motion...holy shit
I like my 15 tdi 700 to the tank is what I want lol
That is the problem with this car, others in the class offer the automatic as standard equipment, and I'd say 95% of this class is sold as automatic.
Only in MURICA
@@slettebjorn that’s right baby! Phuck Joe Biden but LONG LIVE AMERICA!
Great review
I totally disagree about the Passat being road noisy. My 2013 is anything but road noisy. I also disagree that the Passat is like a sports car when winding the roads although I have 17 inch tires and that one has 18's. But that alone would not make it a BMW. I have the Diesel so that 184 ft/lbs of torque might seem tame since I have 236 ft/lbs (I also average 37MPG combined). Camry and Accord are "me too" cars, the Passat is a nice change and the one piece steel doors (Camry and Accord take note) give me confidence and security as does the fact that in all probability I would not burn to death in a bad accident (thank you diesel) (R.I.P. Paul Walker).
Mine is super quiet
The rear passanger room is like a limo.. Going from a IS350. I question myself why i didn't get a Jetta... This car is Huge inside...
Good Job ... Great Review!!
Oh, by the way, I have the TDI version.
American version of Passat is some oldy or more like Chinese version of WV Santana in compare to this new one Passat 2015 which now come on Europe market with some interesting engines!!
So true about the infotaiment, and the touch screen system. Takes forever to boot up at cold start. :/
I does yes.. But the way the car drives.. I over look that
Great review. Tks.
How is the performance of Turbo diesel version of this PASSAT 2014 ? Is it worth buying today in 2020?
I think you touched on some of the reasons this car has selling issues, some your didn't:
- It is bland looking inside and out, the competition is more flashy or the new models of competition has turned more flashy
- The trunk closing and crushing issue, you may think "just don't put stuff there" but there are others who simply wouldn't buy it like that because it's a stupid design.
- The ride can't decide if it wants to be "german feel" or to floaty. Noise on the highway can be a no-no with the competition, ask Mazda
- Main one to me, reliability. VW's are not known for it and when warranty expires the costs get retarded.
Good points:
- TDI (some would consider it a negative with prices down south)
- Back seat room.
The negatives are a bit to high imo. Great review btw
yeah, but they sure are more fun to drive than a Camry!
Nice video. And nice looking car. How reliable are these Passats?
The old Volkwagen Passat did not have a 2.5 liter 5-cylinder engine producing 170 hp, that is what the jetta has. The older Passats had a 2.0 liter 4-cylinder turbo charged engine producing 200 hp.
The Passat did have a 2.5. Even some 2014 models have it. The 1.8 was introduced later in 2014.
The old Volkswagen Passat DID have a 2.5 i5 engine, up to 2013, where it was changed to the 1.8TSI.
I just got a 2014 Wolfsburg passat... does anyone else notice it’s really jumpy when first accelerating?
Maybe I missing something being in the UK but the Passat is the best buy in the saloon sector here (UK) followed by the Mondeo with no "VW reliability" problems.
Of course the UK is hatchback mad and they sell far more Golf's/etc.
VW's do not have any more reliability issues than any other make in the UK why so much mention of it? What do you guys do to them in the US?
Oh yes I buck the trend by owing (and enjoying) a 2007 MK5 Jetta Sport TDI 140ps great car very reliable and I think better cars than the Golf as bigger and cheaper to buy. Just wish we could buy the Jetta GLI model :( never been available in the UK or a proper GTI model.
I'm bewildered too. Volkswagen is the best selling manufacturer in Europe and far outsells Toyota and Honda there. If VWs are so unreliable, you'd think buyers there would have clued in by now.
VW dealership "mechanics" in the US have little idea how to work on VW cars. Additionally, it seems auto maintenance is nonexistent in the United States. I mean I see people driving on underinflated tires look very low (meaning they are really low). Chinese cities rely on VW's for taxi duty. The past few years in Shanghai I've seen VW's with over 300,000 miles on original engines. All the drivers tell me proper preventive maintenance is the key. It is. A car is a complex machine; neglecting simple stuff like oil changes leads to expensive problems down the road. Owners try to save $60 every 6000 miles, but they end up forking over thousands more on expensive repairs. VW will outlive Honda or Toyota if they're taken care of.
I had a 1986 VW Quantum 1.8L with a 5MT that just broke 700,000 miles before it was totaled by a distracted driver. Otherwise it would have probably done another 100k miles easily. I simply changed the oil every 3000-4000 miles, replaced parts before they fail, and check the car over every month. By giving the car the care it needs it will be reliable. Great cars. I would definitely buy another one, and the recent Takata scare for Japanese cars serves as more reason to buy VW.
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That probably explains why Lexus usually comes out on top in the reliability surveys - Lexus recommends that their cars be serviced every 5000 miles or six months which is more than twice as often as their European competitors.
www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2008-lexus-is-f-long-term-road-test-maintenance-and-fuel-costs-page-2
John Doe Yep. German cars will never be reliable given the current service intervals they recommend.
why does Passat sales suffer in USA it would bump up if they had European version, i think so !
Vw sales suffer globally my friend. Not only in us
Herky -jerky DSG? What did you smoke ?
man why replacing 5 cylinder? whats wrong with it?
Nawaf Alaroj Loud, clunky, unreliable, and lower-end fuel efficiency. Still a nice engine especially compared to other engines of its time, but the new 1.8L is a very respectable engine.
OSTKCabal ahh i see now, thanks!
I like your review but the part you say that the car not start right away with the push button is stupid! Why? Because it’s a diesel and need recycle for injectors before start it’s simple
No HID Lights ???
anyone having RNS 510 Nav issues? lockups and such?
does this car have an aux cord?
Ebony Bailey yes
and bluetooth audio
I love my baby
I have one and this cars are lemons
Despite your efforts to remain positive, VW has a long way to go to create a RELIABLE car that offers a good value for the money. 9th place? Sounds about right.
Amen!
Hey go pick on somebody your own size! And Yes the Corolla is the best in its segment. The Passat is a completely different class of car.
pedrof830 Ummm no, the civic is the best in the class.
Timothy Redd um no the mazda 3
It's gonna be a money pit. FYI the website is wrong about those powered seats. It's 8 way adjustable, not 12.
This is an old circa early 2000 engine with some tweaks.
The only one to consider is the TDI.
I've driven this car with the 1.8T and I own a 2004 Passat with the 1.8T. The current 1.8T does not feel at all like the same engine, which is not a good thing at all. The engine seems less refined and doesn't make a nice noise. And the way the car pulls you can hardly tell that there's a turbo. Really though, this car has just lost everything that makes me love my 2004 Passat which is really unfortunate, because I'm looking to get a new car and this won't be on my list. I fully understand why this car is 9th on the list.
I have 2014 Tdi and I like everything on this car but suspension. As he mentioned this car floats and bobs even on the clean paved road and it's annoying. But the handling and space and MPG you get with TDI is just too good..
Most say Its unrelible and boring but they didn't drive the real 2017 HighLine and the 2012 ComfortLine they are Relible and has a 7 Speed DSG Automatic
This is not an "new" 1.8T. If you remember back early 2000's this was the engine for the Passat and other cars in the line up. Then VW went with the 2.5 and now is back to the 1.8T This is not a direct infection new engine, is a repackaged old one being sold as new. VW does that a lot. While the Japanese (Mazda and others) have new technology. Koreans! Have direct injection and much more efficient turbos (1.6 with 200 HP)......plus the maintenance costs!!!!!
Actually this is a completely different engine. It simply has the same displacement. Also this new 1.8T is direct injected. I've driven this car with the 1.8T and own a 2004 Passat with the 1.8T and I can tell you that the 1.8T is a completely different engine...and not nearly as good. I was very disapointed.
i have a 14 model TSI. Its a pretty damn good car! I love the driving feel, he's right when he said you know what the car's doing and yes hit the turbo mode and the car eggs you like crazy. The style.. i got the tsi (which is tech. the base) for 23k. only had bluetooth. The car looks better WITHOUT THE CHROME HONESTLY!throw in the spokane wheels and it looks gorgeous!!
technology is the ONLY DOWNSIDE. BUT VW touchscreens suck, your better off getting an aftermarket pioneer
How is your passat now ? I hope everything is well.
Give Me a Break...... A 2014 Mazda 6 is a bigger bang for the buck, and besides it is quieter and handles much better than the VW.
Ya but it's a MAZDA
it's really looks a great and amazing car what about the road noise and the heat bear am living in a very host country the climate at July and August may hits the 57 to 64 degree is it designed to meet this kind of weather thanks
European model is way more stylish. And the 2.0 TDI engines are brilliant
American Passat doesn't look luxury it looks cheaper
Bmw, VW, Audi are usually reliable
It's pronounced 'FOLKS - wagen,' not VOLKS' wagen.'
WHAT ???? I did not know that..Even in America?
You talk about ride quality is too soft, and I agree! Well, thank VW America....not VAG in EU! The OEM struts and shocks installed in NMS are by Sachs "Hecho en Mexico" and they sucked!!!! At 60k on 4 year owned 2014 just changed my brakes.....AND swapped all shocks to Made in Germany Bilstein. Presto! The soft squishy ride is gone, now it drives super tight with crisp dampening of the smallest to biggest bumps like a champ!!! Go Bilstein! It is literally like I am driving a different car, even the steering feels tighter through the turns......bet made in Germany VW Passat B7 is not fitted with the same junk they threw in the U.S. NMS version....just a guess.
Just picked up a 2014 B7 Executive Style Estate version. 6 speed Manual, 2.0TDi Bluemotion, 55k on the clock. lowered suspension from the factory running 18" kansas alloys with 235 tyres... the ride is probably slightly worse than smaller wheel and tyre variants on general roads but that's offset for me by the awesome motorway experience and tighter handling. Love this car so much!.
Americans don't deserve this well-made German car. They got used to cheap comfy Ford or GMC lol.
Wouldn't dispute much about what you state here, except the "noise" you're SPECULATING about... In my 2015 Limited, it's as quiet as a library, so maybe I need hearing aides or your So-Cal roads suck more than my Nor-Cal :)
No L.E.D. rear lights wtf Volkswagen.
TURBO DIESEL PASSAT TDI.....
From the moment the guy started talking s**t about the Fünf Zylinder, I couldn't take this review seriously. American people need to learn more about the Five Cylinder legacy. Smh. I thumbs down for that.
I wouldn't consider a Passat because my family owned a 1999 Passat that was a mechanical nightmare. Check engine light was on more that the door ajar light. Not only that, but getting things fixed on it cost three times as much as they would have cost to get fixed on a Camry.
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Garbage. It used to be my favorite brand in the 90 and 2000's. Had several Golfs and Jettas. Now I would not touch it. This is my very last choice in the family sedans.
The German cars far outweigh the reliability of the American cars how comes so many Japanese cars as well are bought in America
I have this car and it's a pos, burns oil like no other. It has 40,000 miles.
My 2014 VW Passat has been the biggest piece of shit I’ve ever owned. It’s been in the shop nearly every month I’ve owned it for 9 months. Only 114K miles on it when I bought it. Do yourself a favor and buy Toyota or Ford
I HATE these cars that are putting leather with suede, it STINKS!!
funny.
previous looks better
American version looks cheaper and he is cheaper than european version of Passat.
They are very different vehicles. Alot of sound dampening has been removed and I think the interior is also a lower quality compared to the Euro version.
no it is not., interiror looks more like from Golf 5., and your engines are some sloopy and lowered
We have passat. Its true european version is better.
Jakub Hladil and now will come total new passat
If I were to buy a Passat it would have to be a TDI with the 6 speed manual. Otherwise I would rather have a Buick or Chevy.
meh
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my 2012 tdi engine had a total enign failure at 31000. dont buy this pile of garbage.
Brian B You're talking about an old-model TDI engine that has been historically plagued with issues and was designed 10+ years ago, not the new 2014-2015 TSI 1.8-2.0L that VW has completely redesigned. The new engines are simply awesome.
VW needs to work on reliability and a campaign to combat it. Assuming they ever get their cars in working order, something needs to be offered to appease new customers such as a new replacement vehicle on the spot for ANY serious mechanical problem you encounter within the warranty period. Else, nobody is ever going to take these cars seriously. VW, people who buy these cars are not the same demographic as those who buy BMWs and Mercedes. You are competing mainly against Honda and Toyota, two reliability powerhouses that will bitch slap you into the corner when it comes to having a problem free car.
Volkswagen is much more reliable and fast car....japanese car is too slow and break right away when u abuse it...volkswagen i is built to lasts forever with abuse fast driving....
***** german car or italian car of course not your shitty cheap japanese car because japanese car never beat german cars or italian cars in any races...
in nuernburg this year 1,2,3,4 were all benz and 5 is audi and 6 was honda this year lol....there is still huge technological gap so just because you can only afford japanese car don't say ridiculous things you made of and know nothing of...
***** lol don't say ridiculous thing...japanese cars never beat german cars in any racings...you are poor who can only afford cheap japanese car so you say what you can afford is the best...
***** lol japanese cars are cheap for poor people like you who can't afford to buy german cars...japanese cars never beat german cars in any races before....there is huge technological gap between german cars and japanese cars....
This a boring looking car. All the improvement can't make up for that.
Indian version of VW Passat looks much much better than American Passat and India gets European which is more areggsive and sexy
passat are bad reliability. I have heard tons of complaints about them some from people. not to mention ugly looks the same as other passats and it clunks into gear this dude says. really? haha
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u mad? your reviews suck hypocrite
Volksvagen actually last forever with fast driving abuse...japanese cars are too slow and break right away with abuse....it only last as long when u drive slow and carefully...
polychronio LOL hmm Japanese cars have been the most quality cars on the road for years. including lexus, honda, toyota. but ok you think your right so ok. LOL
gee, no power, questionable fuel economy and a clunky automatic transmission. Hard to believe that a Mazda isn't at number 9.
God VW makes ugly cars. I liked their early models way better. This thing looks so cheap. Zero appeal. Give the car some aggressive lines or something.
pretty much these days, every car company has made some really ugly cars, and they all look pretty much the same because they want that "American" appeal. In my opinion, the Passat's body style sure beats the ugly Ford Fusion and Toyota Camry. The Honda Accord looks nice though.
I totally agree. I think the accord is the better looking car in this class hands down. But the accord models prior were terrible looking for the last 12 years. About time they nailed it.
Every car company has their dark ages. Even General Motors had theirs this past decade and almost went into bankruptcy in 2008 and now are pulling out of it. Their new 2014 Chevy Impala got a score of 95 out of 100, making it the first American car to get such a score in 20 years.
European version is more luxorious
I like volkswagen design ...its more artistic...
No surprise it's ninth place in sales it's so damn boring.