The one who is laughing hysterically, is truly masking conviction and is also pride because there is no way that you can deny what Tiphani said. I denounced Delta and can honestly say that I fought against this until God brought to my remembrance the oaths and rituals. If each org went back to those things, this is irrefutable. Kudos to the guy who first spoke as an Iota; that was huge!
Yeah, He feels it the most and that's what's so sad....Holy Spirit search all... When hearing someone say all these things. It's hard to accept...even believe....
Agree! It is not common for individuals in these organizations to feel a sense of loyalty toward those who have assisted them in advancing their careers and achieving financial success. Nevertheless, according to biblical teachings, the only means of receiving promotion in this life is through God, and it is God who grants wealth to individuals.
I denounced a frat years ago. You cannot deny the fact that Every frat /sorority places their organization as a priority above all. Need evidence? Just look at the oaths and pledges. People are literally saying they pledge their life to this thing! This is idolatry! This shouldn't be. Christ should be the priority. Then there are people who would say it's cool to have Christ and that organization. Not so. You cannot mix the two. What fellowship does light have with darkness? You cannot have both. If you don't think your org is darkness, then look up the Origins of that organization, what it represents, revisit the things you recited and the gods that represent your organization. ALL of them have a Greek or Egyptian god associated with it and some of those gods are literally mentioned in the Bible. The LORD was angry with his people for fraternizing with those gods. Come out from among them and be separate.
Thank you and the few brothers and sisters who actually posted the truth about fraternities and sororities. I would like to add some scriptures for anyone who may not know (or may not be clear) what the Most High thinks of His children taking oaths... Matt 5:33-37 Matt 23:18-22 Num 30:2 Deut 6:13-16 Deut 23:21-23 James 5:12 Heb 6:16-17 ❤
Amen. And the denouncing testimonials go into detail, it's demonic. No one in good conscience should want to remain in those organizations. Praying for the lost sheep to unseare their conscience. Romans 12:2
This is a real topic that needs to be discussed. I say this In love,Greek Letter is not of God! It's idolatry, it's pride, it's self-glorification,and it's of the flesh. A person can still be about the community,show brotherly/sisterly love without pledging. I agree with her🙏
Tiffany is spot on! Bro knows he needs to repent. He is just trying to justify it. It’s all God or not! There is only one truth! No way around. Let’s keep them in our prayers for boldness to speak the Word of God!! 😊
Praise God! I did the same. Same org and wrote two letters as well. Tiphani is correct about how these orgs are making it harder to get out.. harder to denounce. This matter is completely about life and death.
If he ever FULLY submits to God, he’s going to end up denouncing. Watch. I skipped over words during my initiation process with AKA too. That’s called the conviction of the Holy Spirit. If nothing was wrong, why would “the natural GPS inside of you” tell you not to state the words. Come on to the denouncing side! 😂 No, seriously, I’ll be praying for this young man. 🙏🏽
My husband did the same. Replaced the fraternity name with Jesus during initiation LOL....Eventually he ended up denouncing altogether once he studied more about it and was convicted.
Not skipping over words and playing yourself like it didn't take lol I love it!! You are right that's was the conviction of the Holy Spirit. We do stuff like that, like not singing certain words to a song but still accepting the concept and agreeing with it like You did.
Not necessarily. In another more recent episode of Hardly Initiated, there are 2 young ladies that denounced their sororities and their friends were supportive. If they are your true friends, they will rock with you.
Maybe. A lot of us don't have friends we have sin partners. My brother and ex make fun of me for being home and not going out much. I don't smoke drink party around that etc. I used to have a lot of people that would reach out.
God is a God of separation. If you are scared to lose earthly friends cz of your allegiance to Jesus, you are not ready for Elohim. You still live the world than Jesus!
Please stop putting words in his mouth. Legalistic Christians continue to do this. He said they will stop inviting him to the ORGANIZATION bbq's... because everyone will have on paraphernalia and then you got this one guy who left the organization. By leaving, he saying that HE doesn't want to be at that bbq. He never says his friends wouldn't call him at all or that they would stop being his friends.
I denounced in 2019 after serving as president of my undergraduate chapter and while serving as VP of the alumni chapter. It gives me great joy to hear other believers talking about this. It is idolatry and I’m fully convinced that if we act as the true church, people wouldn’t need to join these organizations to feel included or like they have family, or whatever else folks looks for. Praying for all to be free!
Thank you for raising the importance of church one intentionally building community. Too many "cliques" in the church. If there was a focus to really see people and actually be inclusive it could combat folks
@@bailofhay978 you are absolutely correct! It’s just important to remember that pastors are not the standard. They are also humans subject to error so they especially need prayer to ensure they aren’t leading folks astray with their involvement.
The lady in the comments said she's set free from legalism but has willingly bonded herself to the laws of an organization that doesn't prioritize God and made her do silly things to be accepted. Make that make sense.
Isn't that crazy @shearose88????? She gets all high and mighty, calling Montgomery's opinion "legalism", as she's being LEGALISTIC about her organization!!! LOL
She’s not legalistic they have people that have come forth and said that they had left their sororities because they realize they were daemonic things, and God was showing them things that their sororities were daemonic. She’s not being legalistic. Some of those sororities are associated with deities and when you join a sorority your linking up with deities.
@arielslack7015 in order to be a part of a sorority you have to follow the contractual laws associated. She's saying she is not bound by Christian legalism but she ironically has bond herself to the laws of a man made powerless, possibly demonic social club.
@JLCLAY FACTS, people must repent and fully come out of these organizations; I personally did myself and it was one of the best decisions in obedience Jesus!
She is on point! 20 years ago I was going to pledge in a sorority… God told me no because it is idolatry. So I didn’t do it. When Jesus says No, nobody can say yes!!!
God also told me NO. I was a kid in college and He took me from the old testament to the new---- in black & white---- it was clear that I couldn't follow Christ & follow any sorority.
I denounced Delta in September 2023 and I was legacy. In fact, today (4/24/24) would’ve made 25 years in. Many in my family stopped talking to me after I denounced, even though I talked to them about what God was revealing to me before I actually denounced publicly. They chose to not invite me to the annual family Thanksgiving dinner (even though I’m the youngest one in the family who’s parents died) nor was I invited to my cousin’s wedding or the upcoming cousins weekend sleepover… and these cousins are all between 60-80 years old. To be treated like this showed me everything I needed to know. Definitely not of God, but the word says you shall know them by their fruits. The guy who said the false gods are demons is absolutely correct. ”What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything? Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons.“ I Corinthians 10:19-21 NKJV
Sis you are a part of the most important body, Christ. It is just disgusting that anyone(your family)would idolize something (Greek orgs) that really means nothing. Pure brain washing.
I pray that God restores to you family. Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?” Then he pointed to his disciples and said, “Look, these are my mother and brothers. Anyone who does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother! Matthew 12:48-50 NLT
@@BelieverFirstwithSharonJoy Amen, I receive and believe that God is restoring family to me. He promised me that. Thank you for your prayers and encouragement! He's been highlighting that same scripture to me as well. God bless you!
It's not about how much a person is not active in their organization. It is about the vow and covenant you made with the organization, when the ONLY entity you should make a vow to or be in covenant with should be GOD! Period. When you make covenant with these organizations, you have already broken the 1st commandment, which would make you in service to an Idol and ultimately spiritually living in Idolization.
Pastors are getting bold with it too by wearing letters on the pulpit and panels. Ya boy Bryant is one of them. Church is one of the major places they recruit. Beware. I denouced years ago once I read and understood the word of God for myself.
The naked truth will always catch up with a dressed up lie. You can sense the conviction on the frat members, but the first thing they've got to do is be honest. They know it's not right, but they just dont want to give it up. That's a clear indication of either addiction, idolatry, or BOTH.
I was thinking the same thing…..giggle giggle giggle …. I have 4 boys and they’re not this giggly 🥴. I especially appreciate the maturity of the brother in the white shirt on the right who tried to stay on topic.
I've BEEN saying this! These orgs and societies are INHERENTLY idolatrous, as soon as you join you have an idol. You cannot be a child of God and a soror/frat...it's biblically impossible. The Lord is calling His true believers out; you cant serve two masters. Renounce and repent 🗣🗣🗣
My pastor said two weeks ago in sermon that the way you go hard for your sororities and fraternities you should be going just as hard and or more for God.
So does G. Craig Lewis. I’m glad more people are talking about this. The Holy Spirit will lead us to all truth. It’s pledging to Greek gods. These are other gods.
What is the 🤡 in the black laughing at when the 1st guy who spoke up, was having a vulnerable moment? What Tiphani said is spot on! Perhaps it was nervous laughter but it was still outta pocket and why black men have an issue being vulnerable.
We are all friends. We knew Ryan didn’t want to have to talk about this on the show and we were laughing because he was trying to stall the topic before. Definitely not a 🤡
@@trackstarz Two things can be true at the same time and perhaps ya'll were privy to details the audience wasn't. Either way, it didn't come across well. If you guys are a team, support eachother during hard or awkward moments. That's what friends do. It hit different for me bc of something I'm dealing with in my inner circle pertaining to secret societies and the consequences thereof. I often wondered what an active members rebuttal would be on the topic. So to see someone be candid and have a vulnerable/honest moment, then be cutt off by laughter made me angry. Because I really wanted to hear from brother Ryan. I am AMAZED at how many prominent Pastors who preach the gospel, yet are proud, card carrying members of fraternities. It's truly baffling and why I walked away from 2 Church's I otherwise loved. ❤️🩹
@@staceyculbertson6784Perfectly said. The guy in black represented himself very poorly. The laughing was EXTREMELY RUDE and distracting. I wanted to hear the points made and really struggled to get through the video due to all the foolish laughing. #RealTalk #AintNuthinFunny
The truth is the truth dont sugar coat it thats why people stay being trapped in evil spirit possession in their life not knowing what they are a part of.
I’m so shocked and glad that this conversation is being had. I denounced a Greek org due to spiritual conviction back in 2015 I believe. The masses of people who are Greek will not take any of this conversation in, but for those whose hearts are being convicted in some way, hopefully they will seek Him and turn away from it.
It’s important that we as Christians are thoroughly aware of the organizations we join. Like DJ Jeremaya said, it’s wise to test everything by God’s Word 📖 and the Holy Spirit 🕊
I remember at my uni, the Deltas had been suspended for some reason. When the suspension lifted, they returned to campus and had their new member presentation…on Easter Sunday. And they called the presentation “Resurrection.” My eyes nearly popped out of my skull when I saw the flyer
😮 why did they do that? Now that's blasphemous in every type of way smh..."Resurrection" I wonder when they just sit back and think about the day their presentation was on and the name of their line made them really think about what they just did🤔
I renounced AKA in September 2022. God abruptly opened my eyes to the vows and rituals that were performed while I was in the organization. It’s so vital to test EVERY spirit with the word of God and if it’s deemed as opposing to God’s word we have to abandon it. We make things and people our idols when we are incapable of letting it go and when we have placed our devotion and love above the love and devotion we have for God.
Amen Sis so did I. If you remember what we had to say when we started our meetings, that in itself was everything to tell us to run. We did the right thing. Blessings to you 🙏💖
The fact that he's gotten to a point where saying the pledge bothers him is indicative that it's time to denounce. He has been convicted but is too attached to let it go.
Belonging, family, connections, community involvement, all that stuff doesn’t take away from the fact that these GREEK organizations are not biblical, neither is being a Falcons fan, lol.
It saddens me that more and more don’t realize the truth. When the truth is expressed, the adversary will always have a rationale for Their actions. It’s NOT a laughing matter. Because you’re not beat or only on paper doesn’t make it LESS DEMONIC. Don’t let your letters be your damnation. Prayers for you brothers. 🙏🏾😢😢
The first renouncement video I first saw on UA-cam was back in 2014ish from an Omega and his were only a few up until a few years ago where I’ve seen an increase in these videos. Pastor Price even did a two part sermon on frats and sororities and pointed out biblical scripture to back up his sermon.
These kids join every spring and fall semester into these organizations with no idea what they've tide themselves to. Just a bunch of naive college kids that don't realize what they've done taking those oaths in the spiritual realm. All they know is belonging, validation, attention, & feeling so called "chosen"
I am so glad that you guys are having a respectful conversation about this topic from both angles. It needs to be discussed in more christian circles! Thank you.
This conversation was amazing! Over a decade ago, I raised similar concerns about how non-biblical Greek organizations were in a Facebook post, and the backlash was intense-family member turned against me simply for asking a question. Thank you all for engaging in this discussion! It confirms what the Lord revealed to me years ago.
He’s in denial because he defends even when discussing the shield in the fraternity. We know in the Bible that the shield of faith is a part of the Armor of God in Ephesians 6:16. So no, you shouldn’t pledge to a shield or mascot. Denounce and leave that Greek organization.
Great discussion on a topic that must be addressed, especially in the black community. When you test it, it fails miserably. It's time to stop playing with God. Time is running short. #denounceddst
This is is real, I am sooooo glad that this is bringing discussed. God recently opened my intellect regarding this is issue. I just left a church where the Bishop and his wife were part of sorority and a paternity. God had me speak to my Bishop about it and told me to tell him to “ repent” and he ignored it. I had to get up from under that amongst other things. But this let a me know that it was not just me…..Thank you Jesus! Keep up the good work Tiphany.
Props to y’all for having this conversation. I formally renounced last year and recently publicly denounced from DST because God so clearly revealed what I was apart of. I charge anyone in any D9 org, re-read your Ritual & compare it to the Word of God. You’ll find contradictions for sure.
Shalom men of God and many blessings to you all and to your beautiful wives and families (personal/ministries). I have respect for the truths that were shared by you all regarding this issue. And the woman of God, prophetess Tiphani is pointing out truths that some may be unaware of, especially when it comes to the church environment. And I would like to share something with the beautiful Ms. Ciarra Lashaune. She made a few comments regarding this subject. I do believe she deserves clarity on this along with everyone else. Shalom beautiful woman of God and many blessings to you and to your beautiful family. I understand the point you made when you stated that your "sorority is not your idol." And you also stated that you " do not agree with her. But in general no one should ever make sweeping assumption about all members making the org an idol." We as sons and daughters of The Most High God are responsible for helping each other understand the spiritual side of life. We are also responsible for helping each other understand the spiritual laws that back this life, especially the life we identify with through The Messiah Jesus Christ. You and your family and these young men from this platform and their families deserve to know the truth about these organizations. Prophetess Tiphani is entrusted with the assignment to teach people the truth. Truth as you know is never surface level when it comes to this walk with The Most High God. These organizations (fraternities and sororities) are under the government and rule of the enemy satan. This is why it is important for believers to study their enemy (satan). If we do not study our adversary like we should, we can end up becoming open prey to things that he manipulates to look innocent. The enemy satan tries to copy and mimic everything that pertains to The Most High God. The oaths, the pledges that people take and recite in these organizations pretty much copy and mimic our confessions that we make when we come to Christ. "Frat houses" or "sorority houses" mimic the church environment. Frat and sorority houses imitate a place of worship. And the "god" that is being worshiped in those particular houses are the Greek and Roman gods that are affiliated with those organizations. Those gods maybe false, but there are real demonic spirits behind those false gods. Now even though you do not proclaim your organization as an idol, you are still under a form of idolatry because of the demonic spirit that is tied to the god of the organization you are still affiliated with. So it does not matter if you yourself do not claim your organization as an idol. The demon spirit that is affiliated with the god of that organization has legal right to your soul, to your life. You pretty much are in an ungodly soul tie with that sorority and you are in a legal covenant with the demon spirit who is in charge of the sorority you are connected to. So through the eyes of The Most High God, the god affiliated with your sorority is your god. This is why your friend denounced her affiliation with the sorority. You do not realize you are serving the god of your sorority while trying to profess your worship to The Most High God at the same time. Those who are affiliating with fraternities and sororities are in legal covenant agreements with real demon spirits. And this is why repentance is needed and denouncing the pledges and oaths and affiliation with these organizations is also needed in order to get free in this area. Everyone connected to a fraternity and a sorority are participating in idolatry. It does not matter if a person has been active or not with their affiliation. That covenant that was made with the organization is still present, which means your soul is still under the government of the demon spirit that heads that fraternity or sorority. The soul is still in bondage. The soul is not free. But repentance and denouncement of the organization will set a person's soul free in this area. And I do believe prophetess Tiphani was addressing that when she did that dialogue on Hardly Initiated's podcast. I haven't seen the entire content, but I know she is sharing truth that deserves attention. God Bless you. Thank you for allowing me to share this and Shalom unto you all and to your beautiful families.
I denounced my frat 13 years ago. They ain’t EVER stopped inviting me to cookouts or events, except for the fact that I’m out of sight/out of mind. I had to tell them no. Especially before I was mature in Christ. Now, I’ll do the BBQ’s before the turn up but it’s purpose driven. I pulled up to homecoming a few years ago wearing another frats colors just to remind them jokers I ain’t going back!! I show the love of Christ and I have witnessed 5 frat members seek guidance on denouncing the frat!!
The fact that you know words like "honor and glory" are specified for God than that right there should be enough to walk away from your organization. I was once a part of Kappa Alpha Psi and once God revealed to me that its not of him, it took me at least a year to walk away from it. Cuz why are you honoring and glorifying a shield? The spirit is talking to this brother, and I just pray that he listens. Kappa's have this thing where when one dies, they say the deceased has went off into the "golden shores". I had to think of it this way...I would hate to die, and God tells me, "Go to the Golden shores you pledged your allegiance to. There is no "kappa land" in my kingdom". Praying for this brother's discernment to increase. God bless him.
This is exactly why I was NEVER interested in pledging in a sorority. The people that I witnessed who were a part of them behaved as if they were GODS themselves. It was such a turnoff for me! They were very high minded and untouchable and did not wrong.
Words have power !!! What ever you give the tongue to speak death or life it will hunt you forever !!! Tiphany spoke the Truth !!! Take it or leave it !!!💕💕💕
The Boule’ is very disturbing. The move in a disturbed fashion. This fellas here cannot be taken seriously. We will not be gaslit and you will not downplay what the Queen was saying. This is serious and your soul is on the line. You cannot serve two masters lest you love one and hate the other.
"MASCOT" it's idolatry and not funny. Skip the cookout, no fellowship. 2 Corinthians 6:14 "Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness?"
The first brother that spoke will definitely have a renouncing story soon. You can hear it in his voice. Going to be praying for all the brothers that spoke. As someone who once was apart of a fraternity and has recently renounced, I will say follow what the Holy Spirit tells you and do not disobey
I believe her. I love to see the testimonies of people coming out of sororities! It's plenty on here. The baseline is the same. Idols, pledges, and the things that are opposite of Christianity. (Ex: look at delafe testimonies: God confronted me about my sorority lifestyle) So good
The fact that you are no longer a brother/sister and are totally excluded from what is professed to be such strong lifelong relationships and bonds if you decide to denounce the "organization" for your faith is telling. The commitment is not to the individual, it is in fact to the organization.
I'm sorry I understand when he explains about belonging. The church needs to get it together. He shouldn't feel his Fraternity brothers are more safe than His Brothers in Christ No Day. I understand the bond he's formed with them but there should be security within Christ that can't be matched anywhere and that's on we the church. We the body of Christ needs to learn how to love better. Love differently than we do now. 1st Corinthians 13 🦋
I had a stroke 4 years ago the Lord reminded me during the crossing rituals He spoke to me directly and said you need to get out of here you don’t belong here. I crossed in 02 denouncing and renouncing Jan24. For me to remember that specifically after a stroke over 20 years ago? Just know like Isaias 57:13 says when you cry out let your collection of idiots deliver you.
I'm not even a soror, but I think it is funny that when the issue of professional oaths, pledging allegiance, being a booster for your team, and the like comes up, suddenly you're "changing the subject." THAT'S what's weird. I guess new citizens, lawyers, politicians, physicians, fans, patriots, military officers, the list goes on, don't like to be swept in 😅
Mannnnn I am loving this topics because I want my brothers and sisters (no frat and sorority speech) come out from among them. I just want my people free.
It’s spiritual adultery!!!!!! Period!!! It’s either God or nothing. Stop making excuses. Standing for God is good enough regardless of who you have to let go as friends. God says, “Choose ye this day whom you will serve. God or man.” Period.
Christ or compromise 🤔 She's speaking truth 🗣️
The one who is laughing hysterically, is truly masking conviction and is also pride because there is no way that you can deny what Tiphani said. I denounced Delta and can honestly say that I fought against this until God brought to my remembrance the oaths and rituals. If each org went back to those things, this is irrefutable. Kudos to the guy who first spoke as an Iota; that was huge!
Agreed
Agreed it was extremely childish
You clocked it!! Yes
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 Childish and simple. Hosea 4:6
Yeah, He feels it the most and that's what's so sad....Holy Spirit search all... When hearing someone say all these things. It's hard to accept...even believe....
My wife denounced about 2 years ago and wrote a letter to officially separate herself from the org.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Wrote mine too. But they haven’t sent me my renouncement letter. They want me to agree to never speak about the secrets. SMH.
@@kaymarierichburg that’s wild smh!
Amen.
That's crazy @@kaymarierichburgwow
Oaths, pledges, rituals, kneeling at an alter, plus idolatry. Is antithetical to the word of God.
We can't say antithetical, because all that happens in the Bible and in church.
It's evil to kneel on the altar in church too?!...
@@Tigerlily_Fresh are you serious? What is the topic?
@chandrikawarren6834 that is the point. You can't serve two masters. If you follow the word of God, then it absolutely is antithetical.
@@jamesross6476
You said it not me.
Stop calling it “weird” it’s blasphemous and evil. Them brothers do not want to let go of idol worship.
EXACTLY....the Frat is there God(idol)!!!
Agree! It is not common for individuals in these organizations to feel a sense of loyalty toward those who have assisted them in advancing their careers and achieving financial success. Nevertheless, according to biblical teachings, the only means of receiving promotion in this life is through God, and it is God who grants wealth to individuals.
I mean...at least he felt something wasn't right 🤷🏽♀️. With the exposure everyone had now we have to re-learn, educate to live.
Facts! They going to let them Greek gods send them on a bullet train to hell.
Facts!
I denounced a frat years ago. You cannot deny the fact that Every frat /sorority places their organization as a priority above all. Need evidence? Just look at the oaths and pledges. People are literally saying they pledge their life to this thing! This is idolatry! This shouldn't be. Christ should be the priority. Then there are people who would say it's cool to have Christ and that organization. Not so. You cannot mix the two. What fellowship does light have with darkness? You cannot have both. If you don't think your org is darkness, then look up the Origins of that organization, what it represents, revisit the things you recited and the gods that represent your organization. ALL of them have a Greek or Egyptian god associated with it and some of those gods are literally mentioned in the Bible. The LORD was angry with his people for fraternizing with those gods. Come out from among them and be separate.
Thank you and the few brothers and sisters who actually posted the truth about fraternities and sororities. I would like to add some scriptures for anyone who may not know (or may not be clear) what the Most High thinks of His children taking oaths...
Matt 5:33-37
Matt 23:18-22
Num 30:2
Deut 6:13-16
Deut 23:21-23
James 5:12
Heb 6:16-17
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Amen. And the denouncing testimonials go into detail, it's demonic. No one in good conscience should want to remain in those organizations. Praying for the lost sheep to unseare their conscience.
Romans 12:2
Amen!
Yes 🙌🏾 God said he does not share an alter with other gods
💯 Truth. Very well said.
She’s not taking shots. She’s issuing a challenge. You can take it or not.
@@cherwallace6026 NOT
This is a real topic that needs to be discussed. I say this In love,Greek Letter is not of God! It's idolatry, it's pride, it's self-glorification,and it's of the flesh. A person can still be about the community,show brotherly/sisterly love without pledging. I agree with her🙏
Tiffany is spot on! Bro knows he needs to repent. He is just trying to justify it. It’s all God or not! There is only one truth! No way around. Let’s keep them in our prayers for boldness to speak the Word of God!! 😊
I renounced and denounced Zeta and wrote a letter. Why are they laughing so much? This is a serious matter.
Praise God! I did the same. Same org and wrote two letters as well. Tiphani is correct about how these orgs are making it harder to get out.. harder to denounce. This matter is completely about life and death.
Some people laugh when it gets uncomfortable. They know this is not a funny matter.
The laughing could be a coverup for conviction, or embarrassment
Sometimes it a evil Spirit 😁 like the movie 😁evil spirits on it .
I love to see godly men stand up for what is right and biblically sound! I agree with everything Tiphani said!
If he ever FULLY submits to God, he’s going to end up denouncing. Watch. I skipped over words during my initiation process with AKA too. That’s called the conviction of the Holy Spirit. If nothing was wrong, why would “the natural GPS inside of you” tell you not to state the words. Come on to the denouncing side! 😂 No, seriously, I’ll be praying for this young man. 🙏🏽
My husband did the same. Replaced the fraternity name with Jesus during initiation LOL....Eventually he ended up denouncing altogether once he studied more about it and was convicted.
But we, the children of GOD In CHRIST JESUS, -- we shall not mix the holy with the unholy.
Not skipping over words and playing yourself like it didn't take lol I love it!! You are right that's was the conviction of the Holy Spirit. We do stuff like that, like not singing certain words to a song but still accepting the concept and agreeing with it like You did.
Why get in that period if you felt convicted to replace some of the words ? That’s not something I would want to affiliate myself with .
@@TeAireGriffinooooh 🥶 not you minding your business and coming for the people with the song comment. Thank you, I needed to read this
So my "brothers" will stop calling me once I denounce the idolatry??? Were these EVER your brother??? My Lord! This is so crazy to me lol.
Not necessarily. In another more recent episode of Hardly Initiated, there are 2 young ladies that denounced their sororities and their friends were supportive. If they are your true friends, they will rock with you.
Maybe. A lot of us don't have friends we have sin partners. My brother and ex make fun of me for being home and not going out much. I don't smoke drink party around that etc. I used to have a lot of people that would reach out.
Wait but you saying you no longer want to claim them as brothers you saying you don’t want to be included so why be mad when they respect your wishes?
God is a God of separation. If you are scared to lose earthly friends cz of your allegiance to Jesus, you are not ready for Elohim. You still live the world than Jesus!
Please stop putting words in his mouth. Legalistic Christians continue to do this. He said they will stop inviting him to the ORGANIZATION bbq's... because everyone will have on paraphernalia and then you got this one guy who left the organization. By leaving, he saying that HE doesn't want to be at that bbq. He never says his friends wouldn't call him at all or that they would stop being his friends.
I denounced in 2019 after serving as president of my undergraduate chapter and while serving as VP of the alumni chapter. It gives me great joy to hear other believers talking about this. It is idolatry and I’m fully convinced that if we act as the true church, people wouldn’t need to join these organizations to feel included or like they have family, or whatever else folks looks for. Praying for all to be free!
Thank you for raising the importance of church one intentionally building community. Too many "cliques" in the church. If there was a focus to really see people and actually be inclusive it could combat folks
Well, there are many pastors who are a part of these organizations as well.
@@bailofhay978 you are absolutely correct! It’s just important to remember that pastors are not the standard. They are also humans subject to error so they especially need prayer to ensure they aren’t leading folks astray with their involvement.
The lady in the comments said she's set free from legalism but has willingly bonded herself to the laws of an organization that doesn't prioritize God and made her do silly things to be accepted. Make that make sense.
I caught that as well. she is not ready. I pray she gets there.
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Isn't that crazy @shearose88????? She gets all high and mighty, calling Montgomery's opinion "legalism", as she's being LEGALISTIC about her organization!!! LOL
She’s not legalistic they have people that have come forth and said that they had left their sororities because they realize they were daemonic things, and God was showing them things that their sororities were daemonic. She’s not being legalistic. Some of those sororities are associated with deities and when you join a sorority your linking up with deities.
@arielslack7015 in order to be a part of a sorority you have to follow the contractual laws associated. She's saying she is not bound by Christian legalism but she ironically has bond herself to the laws of a man made powerless, possibly demonic social club.
“Come out from amongst them”
Y’all better run to Jesus Christ!
@JLCLAY FACTS, people must repent and fully come out of these organizations; I personally did myself and it was one of the best decisions in obedience Jesus!
She is on point! 20 years ago I was going to pledge in a sorority… God told me no because it is idolatry. So I didn’t do it. When Jesus says No, nobody can say yes!!!
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God also told me NO. I was a kid in college and He took me from the old testament to the new---- in black & white---- it was clear that I couldn't follow Christ & follow any sorority.
I denounced Delta in September 2023 and I was legacy. In fact, today (4/24/24) would’ve made 25 years in. Many in my family stopped talking to me after I denounced, even though I talked to them about what God was revealing to me before I actually denounced publicly. They chose to not invite me to the annual family Thanksgiving dinner (even though I’m the youngest one in the family who’s parents died) nor was I invited to my cousin’s wedding or the upcoming cousins weekend sleepover… and these cousins are all between 60-80 years old.
To be treated like this showed me everything I needed to know. Definitely not of God, but the word says you shall know them by their fruits.
The guy who said the false gods are demons is absolutely correct. ”What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything? Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons.“ I Corinthians 10:19-21 NKJV
Sis you are a part of the most important body, Christ. It is just disgusting that anyone(your family)would idolize something (Greek orgs) that really means nothing. Pure brain washing.
Prayers for you. So sad people/family will make you an outcast because of an organization??? God sees all!!!
I pray that God restores to you family.
Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?” Then he pointed to his disciples and said, “Look, these are my mother and brothers. Anyone who does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother!
Matthew 12:48-50 NLT
@@BelieverFirstwithSharonJoy Amen, I receive and believe that God is restoring family to me. He promised me that. Thank you for your prayers and encouragement! He's been highlighting that same scripture to me as well. God bless you!
@@elenam9435 Thank you for your prayers! It is very sad but God allowed it so it's all a part of His plan. I'm trusting the process.
That laughing while he is sharing his heart and concerns about frat is just demonic! That demon is mad 😡
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DJ Jeremaya is laughing and he isn't in a frat
That is exactly what I thought!!
@@mayajtdawson The point is, is that all the laughter while the guy was expressing himself was highly disrespectful, frat member or not.
Real Mad!!! Them demons Rising up read bad!
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It's not about how much a person is not active in their organization. It is about the vow and covenant you made with the organization, when the ONLY entity you should make a vow to or be in covenant with should be GOD! Period. When you make covenant with these organizations, you have already broken the 1st commandment, which would make you in service to an Idol and ultimately spiritually living in Idolization.
Pastors are getting bold with it too by wearing letters on the pulpit and panels. Ya boy Bryant is one of them. Church is one of the major places they recruit. Beware. I denouced years ago once I read and understood the word of God for myself.
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Bryant is all over place. It's just that all those places he's been traveling have nothing to do with the Word of GOD.
who is Bryant?
@@eLLBdotmusic R A Vernon is another one
The naked truth will always catch up with a dressed up lie. You can sense the conviction on the frat members, but the first thing they've got to do is be honest. They know it's not right, but they just dont want to give it up. That's a clear indication of either addiction, idolatry, or BOTH.
@anointed2teachU very true!
Whewwwww say that
No. PRIDE!
@@exercisehabitcoachofficial That too!🫣😁
Why are these men gigging the whole time he's talking? He's literally giving his testimony.
How OLD are they?😩😮💨
It was so annoying
It ticked me off also…very childish
I was thinking the same thing…..giggle giggle giggle …. I have 4 boys and they’re not this giggly 🥴. I especially appreciate the maturity of the brother in the white shirt on the right who tried to stay on topic.
Childish and unnecessary
An utter lack of emotional intelligence. If you can’t listen without giggling while someone is sharing authentically it exposes their immaturity.
I've BEEN saying this! These orgs and societies are INHERENTLY idolatrous, as soon as you join you have an idol. You cannot be a child of God and a soror/frat...it's biblically impossible. The Lord is calling His true believers out; you cant serve two masters. Renounce and repent 🗣🗣🗣
Pledging to a "shield" is WILD. Idolotry at its finest.
These dudes are laughing as if this is a barbershop conversation when the concerns the destiny of their very souls!!
My pastor said two weeks ago in sermon that the way you go hard for your sororities and fraternities you should be going just as hard and or more for God.
Stephan Darby on UA-cam goes DEEPLY on this topic
I love Pastor Darby (God rest his soul)
Me too he was the real deal. May he continue to rest in Power!
So does G. Craig Lewis. I’m glad more people are talking about this. The Holy Spirit will lead us to all truth. It’s pledging to Greek gods. These are other gods.
Fredrick C Price II did a series on it
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What is the 🤡 in the black laughing at when the 1st guy who spoke up, was having a vulnerable moment? What Tiphani said is spot on! Perhaps it was nervous laughter but it was still outta pocket and why black men have an issue being vulnerable.
We are all friends. We knew Ryan didn’t want to have to talk about this on the show and we were laughing because he was trying to stall the topic before. Definitely not a 🤡
Very disrespectful, even as he was speaking, he was laughing..
@@trackstarz Two things can be true at the same time and perhaps ya'll were privy to details the audience wasn't. Either way, it didn't come across well. If you guys are a team, support eachother during hard or awkward moments. That's what friends do. It hit different for me bc of something I'm dealing with in my inner circle pertaining to secret societies and the consequences thereof. I often wondered what an active members rebuttal would be on the topic. So to see someone be candid and have a vulnerable/honest moment, then be cutt off by laughter made me angry. Because I really wanted to hear from brother Ryan.
I am AMAZED at how many prominent Pastors who preach the gospel, yet are proud, card carrying members of fraternities. It's truly baffling and why I walked away from 2 Church's I otherwise loved. ❤️🩹
@@staceyculbertson6784Perfectly said. The guy in black represented himself very poorly. The laughing was EXTREMELY RUDE and distracting. I wanted to hear the points made and really struggled to get through the video due to all the foolish laughing. #RealTalk #AintNuthinFunny
@@lexijustasiam895 Thank you for re-affirming what I felt. Sometimes I 2nd guess myself but I didn't think I was trippin on this one! Lol 😉
You guys spoke to your brother with so much kindness and love. That was cool to see. He’ll be called out eventually, God-willing.
The truth is the truth dont sugar coat it thats why people stay being trapped in evil spirit possession in their life not knowing what they are a part of.
I’m so shocked and glad that this conversation is being had. I denounced a Greek org due to spiritual conviction back in 2015 I believe. The masses of people who are Greek will not take any of this conversation in, but for those whose hearts are being convicted in some way, hopefully they will seek Him and turn away from it.
If Jesus is not welcomed in the fraternity and sorority that you are pledging allegiance to then who are you serving?
Bingo!!
It’s important that we as Christians are thoroughly aware of the organizations we join. Like DJ Jeremaya said, it’s wise to test everything by God’s Word 📖 and the Holy Spirit 🕊
By your words you will be judged and by your words you will be condemned
I remember at my uni, the Deltas had been suspended for some reason. When the suspension lifted, they returned to campus and had their new member presentation…on Easter Sunday. And they called the presentation “Resurrection.” My eyes nearly popped out of my skull when I saw the flyer
Yikes 😬
Jesus Christ of Nazareth!
😮 why did they do that? Now that's blasphemous in every type of way smh..."Resurrection" I wonder when they just sit back and think about the day their presentation was on and the name of their line made them really think about what they just did🤔
W O W . Lord, HAVE MERCY.
I renounced AKA in September 2022. God abruptly opened my eyes to the vows and rituals that were performed while I was in the organization. It’s so vital to test EVERY spirit with the word of God and if it’s deemed as opposing to God’s word we have to abandon it. We make things and people our idols when we are incapable of letting it go and when we have placed our devotion and love above the love and devotion we have for God.
So..did I. It is not easy.
Amen Sis so did I. If you remember what we had to say when we started our meetings, that in itself was everything to tell us to run. We did the right thing. Blessings to you 🙏💖
@@lbu9542 exactly! That alone further proves that those organizations are not of God.
Me too, sister in Christ. That's our sorority now! 😊
The fact that he's gotten to a point where saying the pledge bothers him is indicative that it's time to denounce. He has been convicted but is too attached to let it go.
Belonging, family, connections, community involvement, all that stuff doesn’t take away from the fact that these GREEK organizations are not biblical, neither is being a Falcons fan, lol.
It saddens me that more and more don’t realize the truth. When the truth is expressed, the adversary will always have a rationale for Their actions. It’s NOT a laughing matter. Because you’re not beat or only on paper doesn’t make it LESS DEMONIC. Don’t let your letters be your damnation. Prayers for you brothers. 🙏🏾😢😢
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Denounce and renounce while you still have time. You can't serve two masters.
The way they are attempting to shroud his testimony in laughter and belittlement is telling
No, but really!
The first renouncement video I first saw on UA-cam was back in 2014ish from an Omega and his were only a few up until a few years ago where I’ve seen an increase in these videos. Pastor Price even did a two part sermon on frats and sororities and pointed out biblical scripture to back up his sermon.
Not sure if you're talking about the father or son but the son did a detail series on it. He discussed what's on the shield and it's meaning
@@SCK-vk1so It was the son I had seen
These kids join every spring and fall semester into these organizations with no idea what they've tide themselves to. Just a bunch of naive college kids that don't realize what they've done taking those oaths in the spiritual realm. All they know is belonging, validation, attention, & feeling so called "chosen"
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Taking oaths and vows is forbidden in the New Testament, Matthew 5:34. You are lying to yourself if you think it’s no big deal.
Don't you take vows to get married? Don't certain professions take an oath to join the profession?
@MsKeepitReal1 it's in the Bible ,you going against GOD, not us
I am so glad that you guys are having a respectful conversation about this topic from both angles. It needs to be discussed in more christian circles! Thank you.
This conversation was amazing! Over a decade ago, I raised similar concerns about how non-biblical Greek organizations were in a Facebook post, and the backlash was intense-family member turned against me simply for asking a question. Thank you all for engaging in this discussion! It confirms what the Lord revealed to me years ago.
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It’s an idol!!!
He’s in denial because he defends even when discussing the shield in the fraternity. We know in the Bible that the shield of faith is a part of the Armor of God in Ephesians 6:16. So no, you shouldn’t pledge to a shield or mascot. Denounce and leave that Greek organization.
Don’t tread carefully. I did that once and God told me I was COMPROMISED! Don’t compromise yourself in God’s eyes to stay on the good side on man!
And a lot of these fraternities are straight up GAY!!!
Listen
The fact that he can’t take the word of God and his OATH side by side… is very telling
I don't always catch the live so I do appreciate these short segments. Also makes it easier to share.
Thank you! That means alot
Tiphani speaks truth🙏🏽🙌🏽
Great discussion on a topic that must be addressed, especially in the black community. When you test it, it fails miserably. It's time to stop playing with God. Time is running short. #denounceddst
Time is SHORT, indeed. We need to stop playing.
FACTS🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 THANK GOD FOR HER BEING OBEDIENT AND FOLLOWING THE WORD
This is is real, I am sooooo glad that this is bringing discussed. God recently opened my intellect regarding this is issue. I just left a church where the Bishop and his wife were part of sorority and a paternity. God had me speak to my Bishop about it and told me to tell him to “ repent” and he ignored it. I had to get up from under that amongst other things. But this let a me know that it was not just me…..Thank you Jesus! Keep up the good work Tiphany.
That dude in black that couldn't stop laughing was so cringy and immature!!!
Props to y’all for having this conversation. I formally renounced last year and recently publicly denounced from DST because God so clearly revealed what I was apart of. I charge anyone in any D9 org, re-read your Ritual & compare it to the Word of God. You’ll find contradictions for sure.
Them being "Greek" and talking about putting hands on me was enough to stay clear🫶🏽🖤1
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Respectfully …it’s very clear he’s not giving up his fraternity for Jesus.
We see you.❤❤❤ryanmoore7608
ryanmoore7608praise God!!
@ryanmoore7608 you denounced?🤔
He can’t serve 2 masters
I think it's clear Jesus didn't ask him to.
The laughing was rude. Times have truly changed. My father would’ve checked dude who was doing all that cackling at the beginning…
Period.
Shalom men of God and many blessings to you all and to your beautiful wives and families (personal/ministries).
I have respect for the truths that were shared by you all regarding this issue.
And the woman of God, prophetess Tiphani is pointing out truths that some may be unaware of, especially when it comes to the church environment.
And I would like to share something with the beautiful Ms. Ciarra Lashaune. She made a few comments regarding this subject. I do believe she deserves clarity on this along with everyone else.
Shalom beautiful woman of God and many blessings to you and to your beautiful family.
I understand the point you made when you stated that your "sorority is not your idol."
And you also stated that you " do not agree with her. But in general no one should ever make sweeping assumption about all members making the org an idol."
We as sons and daughters of The Most High God are responsible for helping each other understand the spiritual side of life. We are also responsible for helping each other understand the spiritual laws that back this life, especially the life we identify with through The Messiah Jesus Christ.
You and your family and these young men from this platform and their families deserve to know the truth about these organizations. Prophetess Tiphani is entrusted with the assignment to teach people the truth. Truth as you know is never surface level when it comes to this walk with The Most High God.
These organizations (fraternities and sororities) are under the government and rule of the enemy satan.
This is why it is important for believers to study their enemy (satan). If we do not study our adversary like we should, we can end up becoming open prey to things that he manipulates to look innocent.
The enemy satan tries to copy and mimic everything that pertains to The Most High God.
The oaths, the pledges that people take and recite in these organizations pretty much copy and mimic our confessions that we make when we come to Christ.
"Frat houses" or "sorority houses" mimic the church environment. Frat and sorority houses imitate a place of worship.
And the "god" that is being worshiped in those particular houses are the Greek and Roman gods that are affiliated with those organizations.
Those gods maybe false, but there are real demonic spirits behind those false gods.
Now even though you do not proclaim your organization as an idol, you are still under a form of idolatry because of the demonic spirit that is tied to the god of the organization you are still affiliated with.
So it does not matter if you yourself do not claim your organization as an idol. The demon spirit that is affiliated with the god of that organization has legal right to your soul, to your life. You pretty much are in an ungodly soul tie with that sorority and you are in a legal covenant with the demon spirit who is in charge of the sorority you are connected to. So through the eyes of The Most High God, the god affiliated with your sorority is your god. This is why your friend denounced her affiliation with the sorority.
You do not realize you are serving the god of your sorority while trying to profess your worship to The Most High God at the same time.
Those who are affiliating with fraternities and sororities are in legal covenant agreements with real demon spirits. And this is why repentance is needed and denouncing the pledges and oaths and affiliation with these organizations is also needed in order to get free in this area.
Everyone connected to a fraternity and a sorority are participating in idolatry. It does not matter if a person has been active or not with their affiliation. That covenant that was made with the organization is still present, which means your soul is still under the government of the demon spirit that heads that fraternity or sorority. The soul is still in bondage. The soul is not free. But repentance and denouncement of the organization will set a person's soul free in this area. And I do believe prophetess Tiphani was addressing that when she did that dialogue on Hardly Initiated's podcast. I haven't seen the entire content, but I know she is sharing truth that deserves attention.
God Bless you. Thank you for allowing me to share this and Shalom unto you all and to your beautiful families.
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I denounced my frat 13 years ago. They ain’t EVER stopped inviting me to cookouts or events, except for the fact that I’m out of sight/out of mind. I had to tell them no. Especially before I was mature in Christ. Now, I’ll do the BBQ’s before the turn up but it’s purpose driven. I pulled up to homecoming a few years ago wearing another frats colors just to remind them jokers I ain’t going back!! I show the love of Christ and I have witnessed 5 frat members seek guidance on denouncing the frat!!
The fact that you know words like "honor and glory" are specified for God than that right there should be enough to walk away from your organization. I was once a part of Kappa Alpha Psi and once God revealed to me that its not of him, it took me at least a year to walk away from it. Cuz why are you honoring and glorifying a shield? The spirit is talking to this brother, and I just pray that he listens. Kappa's have this thing where when one dies, they say the deceased has went off into the "golden shores". I had to think of it this way...I would hate to die, and God tells me, "Go to the Golden shores you pledged your allegiance to. There is no "kappa land" in my kingdom". Praying for this brother's discernment to increase. God bless him.
Listen that interview was longer than Resurrection Sunday - and yes I’m still listening😂
😂 You ain’t lying but it was sooooo good
Lol no lies told but I watched every second.
Lala Jenkins, on UA-cam has been talking about denouncing sorority and greek orgs for past two years. She also had 5-10 guests that also denounced.
This is exactly why I was NEVER interested in pledging in a sorority. The people that I witnessed who were a part of them behaved as if they were GODS themselves. It was such a turnoff for me! They were very high minded and untouchable and did not wrong.
Words have power !!! What ever you give the tongue to speak death or life it will hunt you forever !!! Tiphany spoke the Truth !!! Take it or leave it !!!💕💕💕
The Boule’ is very disturbing. The move in a disturbed fashion. This fellas here cannot be taken seriously. We will not be gaslit and you will not downplay what the Queen was saying. This is serious and your soul is on the line. You cannot serve two masters lest you love one and hate the other.
All the laughing and giggling while he was trying to express his self was very immature. Especially the guy with the black shirt and cap🤦🏾♀️
It’s not about relying on your brothers, it’s about relying on Christ more.
That’s a clear demon laughing out of that man in black
This is so great to see these brothers stand up for the truth!
"MASCOT" it's idolatry and not funny. Skip the cookout, no fellowship.
2 Corinthians 6:14
"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness?"
1 Corinthians 15:33 - "Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits."
Yep, concern w/ being accepted by man/invited to the "cookout" will end you up at the real cookout (in Hell), fr, fr.
It's still idolatry
She’s. 💯 Right!!!! Thanks for spending the Truth 😊
The nastiness they do to get into these sororities and fraternities are enough to chase me away.
They’re absolutely not ready to have that conversation at all…some are trying to forget.
The first brother that spoke will definitely have a renouncing story soon. You can hear it in his voice. Going to be praying for all the brothers that spoke. As someone who once was apart of a fraternity and has recently renounced, I will say follow what the Holy Spirit tells you and do not disobey
Very good discussion!!
Idolatry gon send a lot of folks to HELL 😞 and also….not once did Tiphani “take shots” 👀. Lastly, I love the accountability in this video 🔥
I believe her. I love to see the testimonies of people coming out of sororities! It's plenty on here. The baseline is the same. Idols, pledges, and the things that are opposite of Christianity. (Ex: look at delafe testimonies: God confronted me about my sorority lifestyle) So good
I definitely appreciate the First Gentleman who shared his thoughts and did not shy away from answering questions.
Black folks talk about everything but what is important
The Flag ( symbolism), Christmas ( winter solstice), easter ( nimrods mom), New Years ( Janice Gate) all of it is Babylonian
Fred Price Jr has this broken down so magnificently ! Please check it out!
That man has the giggles back there
Yes, SOOOOOO annoying. 🙄
Demonic laughter…
Ryan was skating frfr. He didn’t want to say “she’s right” lol
Ryan is still justifying it and holding on to this...just let the organization go.
The fact that you are no longer a brother/sister and are totally excluded from what is professed to be such strong lifelong relationships and bonds if you decide to denounce the "organization" for your faith is telling. The commitment is not to the individual, it is in fact to the organization.
I belong to GOD my Father, Provider, Friend and Everything ❤ let’s come to our senses prodigals & remember our Father is the King of Kings ❤
I'm sorry I understand when he explains about belonging. The church needs to get it together. He shouldn't feel his Fraternity brothers are more safe than His Brothers in Christ No Day. I understand the bond he's formed with them but there should be security within Christ that can't be matched anywhere and that's on we the church. We the body of Christ needs to learn how to love better. Love differently than we do now. 1st Corinthians 13 🦋
Truth …..Is what’ the Prophetess is saying 🎯
My brother Godson!! Speak on it 👏 🙌 💯
I had a stroke 4 years ago the Lord reminded me during the crossing rituals He spoke to me directly and said you need to get out of here you don’t belong here. I crossed in 02 denouncing and renouncing Jan24. For me to remember that specifically after a stroke over 20 years ago? Just know like Isaias 57:13 says when you cry out let your collection of idiots deliver you.
I'm not even a soror, but I think it is funny that when the issue of professional oaths, pledging allegiance, being a booster for your team, and the like comes up, suddenly you're "changing the subject." THAT'S what's weird. I guess new citizens, lawyers, politicians, physicians, fans, patriots, military officers, the list goes on, don't like to be swept in 😅
Mannnnn I am loving this topics because I want my brothers and sisters (no frat and sorority speech) come out from among them. I just want my people free.
It’s spiritual adultery!!!!!! Period!!! It’s either God or nothing. Stop making excuses. Standing for God is good enough regardless of who you have to let go as friends. God says, “Choose ye this day whom you will serve. God or man.” Period.
When the first guy was talking all the other guys were literally laughing and sounding like kids.
Right! I was trying to figure out what was so funny instead respecting his point of view and assessing w/o showing that kind of behavior