Pastor Tim Ross DEBATES Princella The Queenmaker on MARRIAGE, FAMILY & MONOGAMY
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I definitely DO NOT agree with marrying or being with another woman.. that’s just not a topic period. I believe the issue with man and woman coming together is sacrificing and both being selfless.. because of past trauma in our home we honestly do not know how to genuinely love and care for each-other
You can learn how to be in complete partnership with man and a woman with a man
I agree
@jcjc3914 I agree as well.. today's issues are that people do not like the truth or constructive criticism. It's almost like people would prefer to stay broken and stagnant than to heal and remove the trauma... like they rather hold on to the trauma as if it gives them a sense of comfort, and that's scary.. it makes them become that spiritual vampire that Dr. Umar Johnson was talking about. They'll put the blame on you stating you're not loving them, you never did truly love them... etc, just being very pessimistic, and it's like, bruh, you need help! They feel like being emotionally, mentally, and physically abusive is ok, and if they're not able to, then you truly don't love them "unconditional"
I was born in 1980, and in my time counseling was a no-no. I wonder, though, 🤔 the effects on my generation had we gotten counseling and how would it affect this generation.. me personally I think this generation is out there.. cry babies... the truth is considered being to harsh, i am entitled to everything, dont want to work hard for nothing, etc.. or is that me being toxic?
Our parents came from a mother's and father's who were oppressed and slaves.. I remember sitting at the kitchen table talking with my grandmother about her having to clean houses etc.. and the same with my grandfather.
My grandfather was a man of many many many great skills and talents. He and hard work were like white on rice and I have his talents and his work ethics.. but my grandfather very rarely expressed his feelings and that was a difficulty for me. It's still something that I'm working through and being single is allowing me to solely focus on me which is something that I've never done!
She's basically saying me are not by nature a one woman man. If your man isn't, get the woman(keep the std, etc) and build. Because women grow things.
Shout out to the Pastor for being receptive, open, non-judgmental, and unbothered!
In what world is crying over her story unbothered? He would have showed no emotion at all of that were the case.
He is amazing and renewed my belief in men of “God”
I look at life realistically as well
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Unbothered was not why they brought him. That woman talked a lot, yet I barely heard Tim's message. Her version of the truth was overpowering
This interview needed more listening to understand and not to respond on both sides. Every time Tim spoke she softened up because he was not trying to prove her wrong. He was trying to understand. He showed her that men can also be empathetic. I feel that he left a positive impression on her. This is how you bring people to the kingdom.
Maybe
Listening to understand is a huge first step for having compassion for the marginalized. "Compassion" meaning empathy + justice/ problem solving
More men need to submit to God and actually start acting godly for women. Every church I went to was filled with more women and the the “godly “ man I was married to treated me and the children as servants to him. I divorced him after 17 miserable years and will never marry again.
@pats8219 the head of the church probably preferred you leave your husband and serve him instead.
🤡. We are not following Jesus ya are delusional. You guys don’t even understand Christ Consciousness, has nothing to do with a male but the original CHRISTOS DNA of the original ascended human which most of you are not, and can’t reach, and at this rate will never reach unless Mother Nature sets you straight or deals with you as needed, you don’t even have the capacity to understand higher knowledge. He did have more empathy then the vast majority of males she encounters and could actually listen to some of her message but none the less a male is a male and all ya did is prove her right on everything men are inacabable of love and understanding love, because real love is just not part of your beingness. Men can’t even see what’s unfolding and that all this is much bigger than Princella and coming straight from the divine mother because she is done with how the feminine has been treated on this planet for thousands of years no one knows true feminine exaltation because it has not been allowed to exist for a longgg time due to mass persecution. The male is unwilling to face his shadow and karma and looks for all kinds of excuses to coddle is fragile ego.
You guys are the real anti-Christ going against the divine order even early Christians understood archons and that Christianity is based off of astrology and esoteric teachings. You guys pale in comparison to early Christians and if you actually studied some history you would know this and that Christianity is also based off of pagan lore and that Jesus’s story is a REPEATED archetype, same exact archetype as in pagan lore, it’s MYTHOLOGY because existence CANNOT be conveyed through language, it’s an EXPERIENCE, that is irrefutable facts. The real knowledge is the Her-metic philosophy. The divine feminine is rising and you can’t stop what’s coming. The original God is the GODDESS who came lone before fallen patriarchal religions which were created for planetary domination and Transhumanism. The divine mother is who gives you life and nourishes you, even your Y chromosome is a degenerate X chromosome. Women created men. Women came first and a males whole existence is trying to be like a woman because she is the source. When ya are ready to humble yourselves perhaps you can evolve.
I loved how Tim Ross handled her with care and compassion. He never judged or argued with her. I listened intently.
Omg!! When Pastor Tim had the revelation, I wanted to jump out my seat! I absolutely LOVED the way The Word & what she was saying came together bc it kept connecting for me too but I couldn’t put my finger on it & then boom! Pastor Tim hit the nail. She is certainly closer to the Kingdom than what she even knows.. Love this…
Lol bu saying the nuclear family doesn’t exist. People really don’t know the Bible at all
There is no kingdom to reach, atleast not for women
She just gotta believe in Christ Jesus and the holy spirit. BUT she thinks the bible is just a book that men wrote.
@@indiawood19she believes in a higher power (i.e GOD) but she doesn't believe in Jesus.
she doesn't subscribe to a male god. she doesn't believe in a nuclear family bc it's not natural. marriage is man made. nuclear family is man made. religion is man made.
the proof is in the pudding. most marriages end in divorce. . proof it's not natural to stay with one person who is the opposite sex.
man destroy humanity. you see it through the bible
man treat woman like property or mistreat them.. you see it in marriages and long term relationships
the list goes on and on. her references are science based; tangible proof... which i believe we need bc we're living on earth. ppl need something to answer "why" we are here. what's the purpose of us being here. etc
1. From observing Princella, her life experiences sent her on a quest to scientifically understand a man's behavior. She has synthesized what she's learned and created the platform she has today and has chosen to deliver advice to women based on scientific evidence. Her message will go over most people's heads because the average human reads at a 7th-8th grade level.
2. The Hardly Initiated team failed to do what the Pastor did, which is listen with an inclusive lens. Their stance from the beginning was to dismantle the ideologies she's studied. Science vs spirituality are hard to exist in this conversation. They also cut her off after asking her to share her personal experiences. Asking her to shorten her thoughts. Make it simple. Men want women to communicate simply. Women are more verbose. Hence, the podcasters not genuinely listening to understand vs respond like the pastor did. Cutting her off also communicated you could care less about her past hurts which is definitely not the Biblical way and hopefully you two will take the time to apologize for this. She deserves an apology for that segment specifically.
3. Pastor Tim seemed to be very genuine in his responses and showed great care to be inclusive and not divisive. He sought to find similarities and not harp in the differences in thought and belief. That is a very rare trait and is to be commended. Had he not been on this panel this evening, no progress would've been made and Princella's entire messaging would've been dismissed. His emotional intelligence is high. He seeks to understand. He knows a woman needs more words than a man. He seems to be the 1% man all women are desiring and hope to find. May he infect the 99% to follow his leadership on how to treat women.
Exactly 💯
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She's just saying dumb stuff that any person with a decent amount of intelligence can easy pick apart. You're lost you thing
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Ryan and Tysean were hell bent on telling her she was wrong when if they sat and reflected she wasn't. Their own male guests who may be good husbands NOW, have all said that - in the early years of their marriage and relationships they put their wives through a lot. That they were cheaters, they were immature, they were broke and had to be supported, etc. I've listened to most of their male guests - and all have put women through "trauma".
Ryan and Tysean have also admittedly put women through trauma. I remember a guest (I think it was the female virgin from the show last week), asking Tysean why he was criticizing women about having a lot of bodies (sexual partners) while he himself has contributed to a number of women's body count. He got defensive and didn't want to address it in an objective way. He admitted he was wrong but didn't want to focus on his wrongness.... only the woman's. Child even the male virgin they bring on is toxic as hell.... talking about "shorty" this and "shorty" that.
For me one of the major points she landed on and emphasized is this: Men are the problem and men are the answer. Men are the problem and answer to sexual and physical abuse; men are the problem and answer to fatherlessness; men are the problem and answer to sex trafficking. Men must mentor and disciple men to become better men. Apart from that the proliferation of misogynistic, manipulative, and materialistic men will continue to grow. If more pastor focused on helping men get whole, we could make a dent in the problem. If we get the man right, then we will get the marriage, family and community right. How many pastors are up for the challenge?
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Amen agreed
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Amennnnnnn! This! And you're a pastor??? Wow. I appreciate you for this VERY enlightened conclusion
#FewAreCalled
You're wrong and lacking intelligence
Thank you Princella for articulating things that many of us have felt for years but unable to articulate. She is spot on!!!!!
Maybe because I am a woman I understand what she’s saying. I may not fully agree but I totally understand what she’s saying.
The first step people miss or get misconstrued is, she NEVER said we can’t coexist or partner up with each other. She is saying once the men govern themselves, the men will be their best selves to THEN be able to have a healthy community. Women should NOT try to save them
I sure we hear that part and in a lot of ways support it. Where you get lost is the no marriage, never live together, only co partner and if the female has a boy at the age of 6 or 7 give you child to the man. That's a tough pill to swallow.
@@TamikaMichelle Again, take your own bias out of it and think bigger picture. What points is she making that we don’t already perpetuate??? Aren’t we preaching to take marriage very serious, then there are men and women stepping outside of their union already practicing the polygamy. Let’s just cut the middle man (marriage). You have an idea of equal partnership in the home, is that true for the MAJORITY of people in the world or do you see it one sided? Then, aren’t we saying boys need to be with their father’s, so 0-6 or 7 he’s able to embody his mother’s qualities mainly and then formative years, mainly his father. She made it a fact to state that doesn’t mean an absentee parent, it just means boys can’t learn everything from a woman, he needs male influence majority. How many in our community are screaming that right now? Marriage can ONLY be successful with two whole people (refer to my original comment). So I would say dig a little deeper on the conclusions.
@@TamikaMichellehard pill to swallow but needs to be done. Male children should be with their fathers as long as they are not toxic to them. Women can not raise sons alone.
@@erinoshun9331. If only their fathers will take them.. if only.. if only… 😅😴
@gailainsley6939 exactly bc the comment said, "give your male child to the man." No, that his child too.
Tim Ross is brilliant!
"Love covers a multitude of sin." Tim chose to love and defend the Queens humanity.
He also made his theology and beliefs very clear without weaponizing them against her, to win the argument
Today Tim Ross taught me a very important message about Love.
What we see with Tim Ross in this video is God's love demonstrated .
Amen!
He actually proved her right that men are incapable of love in-spite of him showing some empathy, ya can't see it, but all men do is prove her right on everything, all this panel did is try to protect their access to women, it was all ego, no self reflection, Tim even admitted afterwards that his wife asked for divorce after 20 years of marriage if he had true integrity, he would have said something live while she was speaking on the divorce rates and how men expect women to sacrifice themselves for their lower nature. Its insane...
Yes indeed. He was not trying to win. He was trying to reconcile their different views from different perspectives as much as possible. I give the HI props for bringing her on.
If you are a true believe in the Lord Jesus Christ you can not go along with this young lady,it sounds good,but to God this is like the serpent in Adam and Eve,so you all want more children to not have a stable home,God made man,then he put man to sleep and took a rib and m are woman for him,God said it is not for this man to be alone,she is his helpmate,help mate, young woman is being use to go against the WORD OF GOD.
@@beatricewilliams7143I'm not supporting or going along with her..
As a man, this lady is spitting. She breaking it DOWN. Interesting
Its a tough job to try to make men understand
Yea Princella is brilliant. Absolutely love her ❤️
And as a women you are definitely a wise man that is capable of listening and understanding so I think your comment proves not ALL men are incapable. ❤
Women are so desperate to believe the lie they will fawn over a rando in the comments section and tell him that his one comment proves her hundreds of hours of work wrong
She had some good points, but she is delusional in some of her points, especially sitting here in a comfortable world literally build by men
Sorry, but the podcast host couldn’t keep up man. I wish it was just Tim and Queenmaker. But props to them for bringing these two together I guess.
As a married woman listening to this, I don’t feel that her message is to get rid of men but how to function with them. Women have been feed this image of men being the knight and shining armor which isn’t true. If we know what to expect, we know how to move. Also I think the conversation would have been better with just her and the pastor.
I agree
Absolutely
SHOUT OUT TO US MARRIED WOMEN WHO SEEN AND HEARD THE TRUTH!!
I agree
She admittedly said she advocates that women don't deal with men and move on their own. And we know she's only talking about black men. Men have ALSO been fed an image of women which isn't true. But that isn't as important i'm sure and probably think men should just figure it out. Truth is, we wouldn't be here if we weren't already here. Men have evolved way past primal instincts to help move forward society. She's only to cause division. Admittedly.
This became so much better once they allowed Princella & Tim to have a true conversation.
I agree!
Right? The interruptions and rude cutoffs “yes or no answers” were not productive
Yes!! They need their own podcast 😮💨😮💨
The entire conversation was important and much needed for our culture.
I just have some pointers.
Princella, you said that the place in which you speak from with men telling you their “secrets” isn’t unique. You have insight in that you don’t seemed charmed by the men you be around, but the men you been around sound just like my experiences and the difference is that i didn’t keep them around.
Now I will say that a good man can show you his good character when he’s around one woman but then another woman who allows him to have whatever power he could be tempted to switch to that darker side of himself. This is why it’s an act of God to find a faithful man which means it’s a miracle.
Now, I needed to here Princella speak because I resonated with everything she experienced. I’ve lost jobs from men wanting to harm me and having more social influence to use against me. I wouldn’t date a woman though. I don’t think I’d ever go that far.
They keep saying she’s being divisive but we’re already divided mentally and spiritually. They want her to dumb things down for them and I hate that 1:50:58
Here's something intriguing from my time serving as a Christian counselor: in almost every married couple I counseled, men would often express dissatisfaction with the frequency of sex and share frustrations about their partners' complaints. On the other hand, women frequently mentioned emotional distress and high levels of stress within their relationships and surroundings. Princella is addressing some uncomfortable truths that many may shy away from. It's essential that we listen because she's touching on something significant, and this observation is based on a substantial number of Christian couples grappling with marital issues. While some may attempt to reconcile biology with scripture, I've personally encountered numerous instances of cheating pastors and church members, and lots of family dysfunction, which lends credence to her argument.
You hit the nail on the head.
Princess are your Male/Female family cohesiveness statements based on the psychological problems that results from human men not mice? Family, male/ female, Divisiveness definitely causes Black Family Dysfunction & Black Male Demise! The male masculinity functions are to direct, protect, & provide that educates, motivates, & demonstrates Black family unification! Female nurturing, supporting, Creativity ,motivating, & stimulating the emotional educational growth! Separation brings about annihilation! The simplicity of male/female compatibility is unification! Female reproduction can’t exist without male sperm introduction! Your vitriolic verbiage of male condemnation coincides with the white powerful systemic separation resulting in Black Family annihilation! I agree that non marital Black Female statistics have increased due to inherited female indoctrination & commonly expressed from ignorance “ I DON’T Need A Man” thus promotes homosexuality! Women also adorn themselves for male acceptance witch can be intentional larcenous looking for financial, physical, & emotional satisfaction!RESPECTFUL BIBLICAL Foundational TRUTHS That REFUTES FALSE FEMALE EMOTIONAL Feelings that FORGES satanic Separation from Pernicious Philosophers that you promote! Male/Female Relationship Education is VITAL for Relationship Cohesiveness! Princess please project the emotional equalization of Female separation that can promote egregious evils of jealousy, hostility, envious inferiority when compared to each other, & bitch brutality Is persistently prevalent! R Kipling’s poem The Female of The Species! Jezebel & the wicked women of the Bible are also written for our avoidance of evil behaviors! God is the AUTHORITY on promoting Unification of Male/ Female Relationships!
Sounds like sex addicts and women who need to grow up?💀 Most folks don’t comprehend and stick to scripture, we go our own way and pleasures are EZ to become addicted to while emotions are EZ to get manipulated by…
The fact that you are a Christian male counselor saying this speaks volumes. It is cool to hear your pov. I am saying this as a Christian woman.
So, as a “Christian counsellor” your endorsing the break up of the nucleus family and the fact that men are incapable of functioning accordingly in a relationship? I guess this is why they say seek WISE COUNSEL” 😏
I'm a 49 Year old Black male...and when i say Princella has really really made me think about some things....She really made me take a deep look at my past behaviors/relationships...
Good🫶🏽
I’m so glad someone can understand. Even though it sounds different from what we KNOW the things she’s saying is happening DAILY within male and female relationships.
You 50 years old and princella, 38, make you check yourself on these topics really? That make me question your upbringing big homie?
I came to the realisation years ago watching westerners that there are many children in the adult population. I don't mean to sound insulting but I just have to say it as it is. Many of you, males and females included, are horny teenagers in adult bodies. Truth be told, you guys need Jesus in your lives.
This is what appears to be affecting the black culture.
When men rise to the ocassion and begin to really, REALLY take accountability for their actions, there'll be change.
It'll be tough holding the mirror to your own face. It'll be tough to admit your insecurities and vulnerabilities to yourself talk more others. But if you can take that first step, the rest would begin to fall in place.
It takes a grown man to admit his shortcomings and his growth. Well said @Beastmode4ever.
My God, this episode was powerful.
Princilla has such a story...captivating speaker.crazy story, smh. The pain...smh
Much respect to Pastor Tim for his level patience, active listening and temperance.
Much respect to Tysean for allowing this dialogue to play out this way. You gave an extraordinary amount of grace and that takes power!
You saw pain and not intelligence. Interesting 😂
I think Princella represented her research very well. While I don't necessarily agree with all Princella's approaches to the issues, it isn't necessary that I do. I respect that her views are informed by her experiences, as are we all.
Why do y'all think these men are unaliving women for wanting a divorce? BECAUSE THEY GOTTA HAVE CONTROL!!
Because most women aren't truly capable of hurting men.
@amandabs4037
Actually it’s because men know she and the government will take all their money and resources and men not going for it
That’s very rare
Princella will answer the question , but the guys can’t comprehend the build up.
Men are too impatient in general that’s why
Absolutely
The hosts are literally proving her point that men so not learn through sitting down and comprehension.
Exactly, listening to react not to understand
Right
Men don't understand the first male to break a woman's heart usually is her father..... this is why it's important to be a good father....... yes, I grew up in a nuclear household.
Triggering and true.
Pastor Tim is the Most mature Pastor that’s ever come on this show hands down. He is a true representation of Christ. Men of God take notes! Straight humility and strength at the same time! Pastor was skilled in his ability to pinpoint the similarities in the message and still was able to see her value despite not agreeing with some points she made . He ate the meat and threw away the bones sort of speak. The essence of Spiritual maturity Pastor Tim has demonstrated. As a woman with Christian values Princella has helped me understand the nature of men and women as a whole. She is able to explain things in a very logical, practical and scientific sense. Its often too easy just to use scripture to answer someones questions. You’re really skilled when you can help someone understand scriptures without having to even quote it.
He's a simp
@@erock9594you’re proving Princellas point
Exactly 💯 Sis
I like that does somebody wanna tell me who's supposed to fix all these broken ass? Black women that follow princella and her broken black ass. As you see, the men are well on their way to fixing themselves in writing the ship. But she has said absolutely nothing about the women. The state of mind they're state of mind. Are they working on themselves? Are they getting therapy? Are they losing weight? She said absolutely nothing about the broken black women dead that all these great Willie Justin. Newly fixed men are supposed to deal with or maybe I heard that wrong
I agree but the men will never agree because of their agenda to still have access to sex WITH women so their male nature is going to always want to preserve their desires that’s why they don’t do religion well. They have failed collectively for thousands of years or else we wouldn’t be STILL having the same issues & worst.
2:30:51 ⬅️ the moment Tim humanized himself to her experiences and shows compassion when nobody else in this interview would. This is why we dwell!!!! Thank you Holy Spirit 🥲🩷
Yes. I'm not Christian but willing to give the book a look through Pastor Tim.
As a woman who has been married I totally agree.. the men never commented on her comments about women who are married are highly encouraged to let God fix it.. nope.. I am now ready to get married again after 11 years of healing and I only stayed in a bad situation because of my religious beliefs! I never learned how to date… I had to fall, put my heart in a man’s hand and allow him to crush it to pieces, then allow myself to wait for a new heart ♥️ capable of loving again but we have to as Christians learn how to date.. stop pushing people to the alter because they’re single and in the same ⛪️ church
The HOSTS’ attitudes and interruptions towards this lady was DISGUSTING…I remember learning in college that statistically women are interrupted by males in conversation more so than vice versa and this convo proved TRUE….
Yea, but women speak longer than men. Typically have a more complex vocabulary and express themselves in a non linear sequence, which men find hard to comprehend/ follow. Princess actually spoke on the neurological differences of male and females in this video!
I’ve only watched 42 mins of this so far and I love how pastor Tim, regardless of him not agreeing with her, stays composed and respectful. We can’t argue anyone to heaven, we can’t shame someone to repentance. The fruits of the spirit definitely come out of him here.
I agree but want to add that All the men on this podcast showed great restraint with this conversation because it was a tough one. Princella was not being as gracious she came off as male bashing but they gave her time to explain herself
@@keelhe893that pretty much what she does😔🫤😟
Ryan was so frustrated as was I. Some of her statistics 📈 need fact checking. I wish her complete healing and restoration!!!
Absolutely 🙏🏾❤️
I totally agree. I cringed a little bit watching this! Because her philosophy of this is from a science perspective, and we all know who created science! So to speak from this standpoint is her opinion on how she feel men and women should operate with raising families, scientifically, etc….. but I bow out gracefully, and may god work through her and show her something different…. 😊
I stand with Princella when she talked about challenging and changing her own beliefs about men. Not only have i dated men of different caliber, I am also the only girl of 5 boys, and have also been in male dominated spaces such as the military and there definitely is a pattern in male behavior and psychology that needs to be addressed. Not only here in America but worldwide.
Men are quick to tell other men to abandon us and go to women overseas but fail to realize what life is like for women in other places. Women are being abused and taken advantage of everywhere. And it's mainly being perpetuated through the guise of organized religion. Do some research and you will be surprised at what you find out.
I also have had a man put a SHOTGUN to my face. I've also been physically abused and SA. Not only is this my experience, but it is the experience of many many women worldwide. But society will try to gaslight women by making her believe that their must be something wrong with her or we're just the unlucky ones to only have met bad men, instead of realizing that something is going on with the men!
So with that said I can see how her solution would be to separate. For the sake of our own protection. Because there is a large group of men who need to figure there ish out and women need a space that will help facilitate them remembering who they are and what their purpose is.
After all i have experienced, people will tell me, i just need to wait for the right man to come along. But I've decided that i just need to not focus on men at all. Because putting my focus into finding Mr. Right is the reason i have ended up with the negative experiences i have.
I also agree that romantic relationships should not be our primary focus. Look at the state of the world. People, children are starving and living on streets but all we care about is who we're going to spend our life laying next to. We shouldn't be focusing on bringing in new life when as a whole we are failing at sustaining the lives already here! There are much bigger things going on in the world that i need our IMMEDIATE attention.
There are so many other things i want to comment on but this is already wayyy too long so ill just leave it here. Very good conversation tonight.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 wonderfully stated!! 💯
What a beautiful and meaningful post. Thank you for sharing your experience. You are not alone. 💐💕
I am so sorry that you had to go through everything you've been through. Thank you for sharing. You're so brave. I
Omg! Yes! Well Said!
I stand with you on this!!! What’s more concerning is the pickme-mammies who will ignore everything you said just to call us hurt bc we don’t worship males like they do and we could careless about being jealous of their marriages with their cheating husbands. They will forgive Pastors and Ministers for cheating and blame every pretty woman with curves that come in the church. These women are dangerous and they are a problem too bc they enable these men.
Women thrive with balance, which is why the man must be whole mentally, spiritually, and emotionally
I’m only 22 minutes in and after hearing some of Princella’s beliefs, I immediately felt sad for her. I don’t know her experience, but luckily the men (father and fiancé) in my life have been able to help with domestic chores and still be masculine men. I can’t see our home any other way. Both men and women together is a beautiful combination.
Yes, those are my sentiments too!! We’re a team. We were created to co-exist and partner together!
Why would you be sad for someone who made a choice and is happy about her choice? What works for you doesnt work for everyone thats close minded thinking
@@befree4052exactly
"Oh how sad for her I am so much better than her clearly more desirable"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I wonder if princella has finalized the divorce that she initiated yet
@@kwamd.1461 men and women actually were not created together leave those fables and great myths alone
I’ve been married for 20 years. There came a time when I couldn’t take the abuse. I divorced him in 2020. All I can say is Pastor P is on point….. She is telling the truth…… Men don’t hear women 😱……
They aren’t listening to her now
Why would we listen to her? She likes women in a sexual way …… she is the competition and sorry but that ain’t right.
I thank God for my wife, who loves me and wants to spend her life with me.
For the single men out here……. Turn your back on women who want to die single, their done anyway.
Your husband didn't listen to you. You don't get to speak for my marriage and how I treat the woman I love.
The men in.my life are very transparent with each other.
All of us have accountability for our personal and marital lives.
So please don't accuse all men of what your husband did to you. That's not fair and it's dishonest
There are men and women who are happily married and have been that way for a long time. I don't care what the studies and the statistics say you don't get to speak for the personal lives of marriages that you have no idea about.
All that energy you're spending trying to diagnose everybody should be spent on diagnosing yourself and making sure that you're the woman you need to be instead of focusing on demonizing men
@@israelsfusion4727bingo.... some of their responses pretty much validated her points...
@@warrior1975ify👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
She’s actually right. I’ve never heard a woman brag about how long she’s been married lol. Whenever a man says he’s married immediately we are informed how long especially if it’s above average . I’m sure that woman has thought about leaving way more than he has .
I do this all the time. 30 years
If we all tell the truth, we will be set free.
that is so true
@@tysteward545here here! 11 years and will brag on my man at any opportunity… I guess he’s one of the .1%!
Oh I sho be bragging! 16 years in with 4 kids and happy honey!
The host remind me of some of the men I deal and have dealt with. They don’t listen to hear, they listen to defend themselves. It’s so annoying. They hate to hear what we’re saying if it means it’s going to hurt their pride or tell them they’re doing something wrong. Just listen! Sheesh!
Same, but like the Queen said, the truth doesn’t support their existence.
Most people don’t know how to listen for understanding very well. Especially when defensiveness has been triggered.
I love your response. Thank you
You just described the black modern woman to a tee!
Priscilla knows exactly what she is talking about! Women complain about how horrible we are treated all the time and all men can focus on is making sure we still want to get married and have kids. There was an attempt at hearing us but it didn’t all the way there. They still looked at her with pity. Thank you Priscilla for hearing and helping us! May the Goddess continue to bless the Queenmaker!
I'ma need her on the Basement w/o these two hosts cause I think Pastor Tim gets her WAY more than they do
Their brain is not developed.
He's married and in a seemingly healthy relationship. These type of men have more balance and understanding of feminine energy than most bachelor's.
Yep they thought the pastor was gonna come and tear her down like they tried to do
Yes
I'm a Christian. To be perfectly honest...after praying for a husband and praying for a husband and begging God for a husband...He finally said to me loud and clear (after I asked Him if He was punishing me for something or if something was wrong with me) that He hadn't given me a husband because He was protecting me.
I dont think anyone knows just how POWERFUL your comment is🙏🏾
Protecting you from...?? If you've never had a husband how can you know you need protection FROM one??
@@BasedTruth look around you, having a husband is not a flex for alot of women. It is a flex for me cause my hubby serves me, and I serve him. 20 years happily married I have a rare man. When my husband agrees with a lot of what the Queen says and the way he shows his love for me and my family, I know I have a man that has elevated beyond his natural male nature and I thank God everyday. The things my hubby does I know a lot of men would never do. He adds to my happiness and I am very thankful for him in my life. With that said, not all men are deserving of a woman period, and some women need to know that being alone is perfectly okay. Men need women more than women need men. 😌
Wow! So profound!
@@sg5720You've got a 1%r. ❤
Priscilla, in my opinion, is helping people (not only women but men also) to see the darkness of what relationships have become but also helping a person to heal from their bad experiences and move on to their purpose. Not to hold any grudges against men, but to recognize the difference in not only men but women too, and what deception is in any situation. It is the behavior that we should concentrate on. I believe it takes the Bible and counseling to show you that...I hope you understand what I mean
They say about 85% of black women have faced some kind of abuse in the household as children. Most of it being SA. Pretending this is not a huge issue and just anecdotal is invalidating and disrespectful. She has very valid points on why women need to separate and find divinity outside of a male centered society. Anyone telling women otherwise has something to gain.
True
You F'ing dumbazz MOST of that abuse is from the MOM and her new BF or the step dad.. WOMEN DESTROY families while men protect them. G*T*FunkOH with your bull.
this is a bs stat
But over 80% of black kids are raised in single mothers households. So make it make sense??
@@brandonwilliams1851-- right!!! It's BLACK MOTHERS who are DESTROYING children. Anyone with 1/2 a brain can do the math. When dad is in the home (whether married or single custodial father) kids do well overall. When a mom takes over the lead and is the "protector" it all goes to hell. We need to STOP WORSHIPPING these house slaves who kicked dad out for gov't cheese. 97% of of the time when the mom says "dad left us" she ABUSED the feminist courts to push him out.
People dismissed everything that Princella said about men and the world, because she shared her past traumas. Her message is for women who no longer want to be delusional about men and the world around us. If you want to be delusional, then of course that comes with denial. Also, don't dismiss her intelligence as just "brokenness". That's pretty messed up. She brings stats, psychology, biology, and philosophy into her theories and what she says is based on her intelligence and not brokenness. I hate when people do this to women. "You're speaking out of hurt" as a way to dismiss them. NO. She's not broken, she's brilliant!
Exactly. Males responses is why I deal with them with a 10 ft pole between us
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Absolutely brilliant!🙌🏾 I salute 🫡 her!🗣️
Pastor T recognises his marriage has evolved and his commitment to her, his openness to show understanding is a powerful
I am a black woman and I’ve been happily married for years. I’ve done everything to make sure he succeeds in life and vice versa. Several of us exist. We are not the exception.
It’s very unfortunate that any woman would continue to do put theirselves in situation with men who act like boys, create a “philosophy” about how all men and women are all the same and how all men and women should be separate, instead of looking inside themselves and understand why they continue to attract horrible men who they don’t even want in their homes.
I pray that women in this situation get help and do work on themselves.. only then will you find a great man and become a great wife.
Girl bye. You are indeed the MINORITY. Stats don’t lie and we can’t keep blaming women for how the men’s decide to behave. Those days are over 😅😴
I learned that I need to love my wife and daughter even more! I learned that my wife may be putting up with things in my marriage and regardless of that woman's conclusion, she opened my eyes to what I must do. Awesome conversation.
I pray for you're wife's sanity and I pray she learns to love herself enough to know you're her burden and she can get rid if you if she had a stronger mind
@@foxylady6901😂😂😂😂 lost
And this is the beautiful part of family. Bravo my brother
@@foxylady6901 the cool thing is, she does love herself enough to know that she can walk at any point and completely doesn’t want to because that is her choice. Not everyone in a marriage is miserable.
Im glad you took the lessons from Princella to better yourself as a father and a husband instead of getting in your feelings. Good on you and I wish you the best for you and your family. May your daughter and wife benefit from your care and hardwork becoming a better person.
“Males won’t agree with me because the truth doesn’t support their existence. My message is for women” - The Queenmaker🔥🔥
But you're telling women they don't need men at all. They can have his baby but he can go. These are the single mothers that we have in society today that are raising male babies to be grown males; potentially the type that hurt you and don't know how to treat women because they don't have a male figure, end up prison or dead early in life. Your goal is to change for a functional society. How is this change? You also stated you have a course on love then you stated you have never loved nor feel emotions. How are you teaching something where you are not an expert? This ideology is rooted in hate for men due to unhealed past experiences and causes confusion for people looking for love.
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@@Mr1MusicloverMen need to focus on solutions with other men instead of the surface level discussions that you all have with each other. Why are men not putting more effort into being better humans? Even if you don’t agree with Princella solution to issue there are a lot of women trying to figure out why there is no accountability amongst men. 1 of 4 women SA’d and I scrolled through comment section on last video about DV and crickets from the men. Even Tysean and Ryan made it seem like Princella only one with these horrible experiences from men when the comment section of that video tells different story. Until men can lead themselves and govern men around them there shouldn’t be any pushback about her message cause majority of men don’t need to be in relationship anyway.
@quietstorm46 @quietstorm46 why focus on other men for discussions, when, in many cases its women dating and picking the type of man they choose to get involved with and have a child with? That's not a conversation I need to have with a man. I can hold myself accountable and can't speak for all men. I don't prefer to generalize and that's what was happening in this panel discussion. Her issue was with ALL men and it was very disturbing. All people, Men and women need to hold themselves accountable for their choices made and make attempts to be better human beings. It's all people, not just men not just women or even certain races; ALL. and I am not advocating SA or any type of abuse. As she stated, doing the same thing is insanity. If a certain situation keeps occurring in your life, from all different individuals, at various times of your life, more than just those individuals and situations need to be investigated and not just lump ALL men as the enemy.
As true as the sun rises in the east. Love it!
This interview was SOOOOO much more pleasant than the interview she had with Charleston White. This was a mature conversation. Thanks you guys ❤
I think a lot of y’all missed the point of this video. They painted her out to be a bad guy but she makes a lot of sense. She’s saying men operate best in their natural environment which is around other men to create a hierarchy and learn from others bc men only learn from other men. Similar to many other animals on Earth. Men can learn best through scripture bc God presented himself in the form of a man just for them to get the right message before entering a relationship with another woman. That’s why men's groups through church or otherwise work so well. That part was a 🔥 message to healing ourselves through the word of God.
They are too busy hating women to love themselves enough to see how they can be better human beings.
Even at that that they operate best in their natural environment,it still doesn't hold water, because they never hold each other accountable for ba behaviours. A man is out there in strip club with his co married friends, getting jiggy with it, and they encourage each other that that is actually the right thing to do. They storm out of the house on any given chance, switch off their phone, get around with their supposedly married mates, and jet off into the wild. They just cover up for each other. Now who's been played here? The woman of course, because they'll be laughing in her face in Hausa.
Tim Ross was amazing in this interview. He demonstrated the love and compassion of Jesus Christ the ENTIRE TIME. And still pointed everything back to Jesus while ministering to Princella.
That was so beautiful to see
Where was this compassion from Jesus as indigenous men and black men failed to protect their women and children. Y’all tripping as if history doesn’t show y’all Jesus likes colonizer more by proof they invoked him and was handed the world on a platter. Either Jesus is not real or blakc and indigenous men are just failures at protecting anything
As a Christian woman I feel like the one big message I got out of this is women need to know their wholeness, understand their value; nurture their creativity and love (learn to) themselves wholly. I also like the point that women need to understand men and what it means to be in a marriage before committing their lives in that ministry. I also feel both guests agree that men need to submit to God (Higher Power) and work on themselves while seeking guidance from fellow men (women can’t do this for men)….i found this discussion/debate very interesting, thank you.
Spot on
Agree! It's called chew the meat and throw out the bones. But unenlightened people are unable to do that. Which is unfortunate. They throw out the entire meal. But there was a WHOLE LOT OF MEAT IN HERE!
I liked ur comment. My question is do u agree that not only men, but women too need to work on themselves to develop (and submit to God)?
@@tennilleedmond1344factoids!!
@@fishbowl8496 yes I agree that both men and women need to work on themselves….there is always room to learn and grow for everyone. As a Christian I also agree and believe both men and women need to submit to God / Higher Power and I believe God does not have a gender. God is Spirit and we can never understand God because God’s Being supersedes our human understanding.
There should have been two other women in the studio. Princella has a lot of defending to do. Thanks for representing us, lady.
Exactly!!! She did a great job alone!!!! Just imagine if there’s an even panel.😅
I hope the interviews can see from the comments that the vast majority of the listeners agree with her. They came to the table unwilling to listen, defensive, and pessimistic. Shout out to the Pastor for listening for understanding, his humbleness and ability to be optimistic allowed his breakthrough. Thank you brother. 1:54:56
This was more challenging for the podcasters than Tim. I have more respect for Tim because he demonstrated a lot of divine masculinity.
Yes!!!!
Divine Masculinity indeed🙌🏾
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lol he just has a higher IQ than the other two.
The host made it difficult for the conversation to flow. Tim and Princella speaking to each other was perfection🙏🏽👌🏽🔥
She dominated him, he cried and tapped out, submitted 😢 Thats not perfect
Absolutely came to say the same. He over talked and rushed everyone, including his co-host . Made it hard to watch
Right.. I just fast forwarded every time they chimed in.
Half of u black women are lesbian that is facts
@@SunManality can’t argue with facts
Thank you for having Princella on the show. I agree with some of the information she is sharing about men. I think it is a hard message for men because they think differently of themselves. Also, I think some guys (like yourselves) do not know what some guys are truly capable of. Men are a different species around women than with their male counterparts. I am a married heterosexual woman and I relate to some of the info. I think men need to take ownership of their actions and require accountability for other maladjusted males. I do know as females, we need to fix some things also. But I truly believe if the male would step up and do the right thing, then the family and "woman" would fall in order.
Who is at the helm of sex trafficking, sexual predators and crime?
Both men and women
The way the Host kept proving her point about Men needing leadership. Some people don’t want change cause it works in their best interest.
Exactly girl 🎉
Works w/ white privilege too😤
It's their show... not hers. She flopped her mouth during most of the video. Yall hyenas so damn divisive
I find this comment ironic, when it's her that needs male platforms to push her message.
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Why do we keep saying her message is rooted in fear?? All she saying is the system is broken and it benefits men and is not safe for women. The cognitive dissonance is loud from the hosts. Her solutions were clear: men need to learn self governance without women. Women need to become whole and tap into their true identity outside of man’s validation. Her point has been proven over and over. Kudos to Priscilla.
They are literally trying to scare women away from the message by calling it fear-based. Twisted manipulation
How is humanity going to go on if men and women are separated. This is dumb. Women benefit from the things men do . I benefit from things men do
At the same time there's so many broken homes it's already happening
Her message pretty much sounds to be very much rooted in fear...hate n resentment
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You worship men that’s why you’re going to continue to be dogged out.
If you like it we love it. Eve too wanted the man over her and then he blamed her for doing it.
The Men know exactly what she’s saying. The Bible clearly said the man knew but she was DECEIVED.
Wake up sister! Wake up!
This is why men need rites of passage. Rites of passage are so important. There is a true need for men who are loving, intellectually intelligent and spiritual to lead and support other men. When men can help other men heal then they will be better prepared to interact with women in a more healthy manner.
I would like these two guest to speak to each other without interruption. Just Pastor Tim and Princella. Then Pastor Tim got me here freaking cry. Princella is brilliant.
She totally broke it down…. The problem is people in ego defense (males and male-identified females) and cognitive dissonance.
Correct. You can tell people want to react. Somethings can’t be summed up in two sentences
My mother and sisters
The hosts reaction is strikingly similar to when you talk with some White people about WS/ racism.
Broke what down..She’s sleeping with women,She’s a whole lesbian… You’re as delusional, hateful, resentful and bitter.
Go sleep with women and leave men alone
Yess they know if all women think like her it’s game over so they gotta keep defending with not all men every single time
Women can't say that they've been mistreated by men, because when she speaks on men, they'll always say she's broken 💔, when really she's intelligent 🧠.
Being broken hearted and intelligent are 2 complete different topics. I know plenty of smart people who are dealing with trauma. Many of the wealthiest people are not necessarily the happiest. Different, 1 has nothing to the do with the other
@@Mr1Musicloverjust like how you can be religious and evil.
@daddydiavolo8378 being religious IS evil
She’s broken and intelligent. But the intellect cannot conceal the brokenness.
Her ideology will not help women, we need God
Whole time Tim Ross was silent, the Holy Spirit was speaking 😂 the silent spoke volumes for me!!! I couldn’t wait for him to break it down! Come through God
The way Tim broke it down is the reason why I could never leave Gods side. He knew and still knows. If we just fall under his leadership we will prosper. Tony Evan’s is preaching on God and government and this explains why what he is teaching is so important. Thank you Tim for your wisdom
This was an amazing interview. I learned so much from both sides, and as a Christian woman I believe a-lot of what Princella says because like a lot of women I too have lived it repeatedly. Men don't hold other Men accountable. I suggest having Men on the show who admit that they treat women this way, lie, cheat, steal, rape, manipulate, use abuse and the list goes on. I have never seen a man say I did these things to a woman and this is WHY, now we can have a conversation!
Most men will never admit to doing these things to women.
The host on the panel know what she says is true! They've admitted to it on Pastor Jamal's interview. Men give each other daps for cheating + Princella will be condemned for exposing the man code. Steve Harvey was called a simp for exposing men to women.
My ex admitted it AFTER our divorce. He praised me for leaving because he wasn't ever going to file or change on his own.
Recently, I came across a video on UA-cam featuring a Pastor who shared a story about cheating on his wife with a man. He referred to it as a testimony, but I couldn't help but think about how the situation could have continued if he hadn't been caught. It's concerning how many individuals refuse to admit their actions until they're caught red-handed, and even then, some continue to hide the truth. This behavior is truly sinister.
Similar stories involving Bishops and Pastors, such as Bishop Eddie Long, are disheartening. The apparent betrayal must have shattered the trust their wives had in them. I personally choose not to entrust my life to man, as it's too great a risk.
BOYS will never admit it. But once the boy grows into what a real man is he has no choice but to admit it and also hold all of his male friends accountable as well. That’s where we break this cycle. Accountability among all males.
I usually find the hardly initiated podcasters to be great host! HOWEVER i could barely get through the interview because the host were obviously offended and emotionally triggered and it made them defensive & RUDE! My hat goes out to Priscilla & pastor Tim Ross for their emotional maturity and dialogue throughout the interview!!!
I agree it was super cringey
Also, I thought Tysean and Ryan were terrible host.
The host were taken back because it wasn’t a debate. It was an actual conversation with opposing views.
@@shondreajackson9183 that part!
Those clowns thought they were going to trip Princella up 😂😂😂 They kept saying,
"Let Tim talk" all a while, Tim was not on that energy because Princella was on point with everything she said, you can't argue with truth and facts.
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She called them out in their face in a very classy way and it went right over their head which further proved her point.
Jus let males talk & they will always prove her right 🤣🤣💌
Everytime‼️🥴🤣🤦🏾♀️
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As a married man, I hate to be the bearer of bad news. Everyone isn’t cut out for marriage regardless of gender. It takes an exceptional person to get married and remain successfully married. The marriage and divorce rate numbers are accurate and it takes a special person to indefinitely pair-bond with another person. I pray for the best outcome for everyone. Honestly, there are some great people out there, but they are not great for marriage. God bless 🙏🏾
I totally agree some of the greatest people in the Bible died single
Agreed.
Very interesting perspective, UpdatedView. Would love to hear more detail about what kind of person it takes to remain successfully married.
I am not cut out for a lot of things, but that does not mean that I will not get the tools necessary to be better at it
That's not bad news because it helps some of us make a conscious decision vs. white picket fence thinking .
Damn. This debate should have been held without the hosts. Idk how they missed the mark on this. Salute to Tim & P. Y’all opened my eyes to many things.
They missed the mark because deep down, they know that they are the very men that she was talking about.
This seems like a closeted manosphere channel...so I'm not surprised
@@teresam5199 when I tell you I was just saying this to myself…literally took the words out my mouth.
@@synthtv5976she did have to call the one guy out on liking you ger women because they're more Naive
@soundsaboutright--- That's exactly why they go for the younger, inexperienced woman.
Queenmaker was cookin, she’s a female Charleston white 🤣 i respect her views on man and woman💯 .
The art of communication - LISTENING!! as well; having a willingness to learn to understand.
2:32:30 The fact that Tim acknowledged Princella’s experiences verses Ryan’s statement of “we don’t want to hear about all of your past blah blah blah”, even after asking her, once again proves the points she’s made throughout the show up to this point.
Bingo
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Yup! They were VERY dismissive... and she spoke about emotional intelligence... where was it?
This. I hated the way they treated their “guest”. They were literally proving her point.
Ryan is an example of the deficiency males have that she is talking about.
Princella was 🔥 ❤
There is nothing dangerous about Princella's message that inspires women to love themselves, for women to invest in themselves, and to understand the true nature and inabilities *deficits of a man! Princella is a patient, and empathetic to women and men issues!! Keep educating Princella, you are going global!❤❤❤❤❤
It's only dangerous to men who want to mistreat women and continue doing so. A man who wants to be different can move against whatever acts would cause him to be dispensable. For a good man this would be a heads up regarding what to lead on.
@@superodalisque Absolutely ❤️
Exactly what I was thinking.
Princella's message is more on the feminist movement, rebellion, etc.
@@mrwendell2343 exactly and I’m a woman and can tell say she’s a damn feminist. 🤦🏾♀️
I see why it took 3 almost 4 hours for this interview, pastor Tim Ross is the only one who actually made a effort to put his own views on pause to really see where she was coming from.
And we saw the repair and healing the other hosts need to embrace. They got some of it but their impatience got the better part of them and ignored the path that could have been even more resolution for some of their women listeners. This is the podcast that I only listen to based on who their guest is. We all live and learn and hopefully remember the lessons we were on course to learn.
It’s fascinating to watch these men not understand this woman. Tim asked her to answer a question at 50:07 that she she explained in the first 10 minutes 😂. The more I watched the more they proved her right and didn’t even kno it. For those of Us women and maybe the few men that understood, Thank you Queen maker for your eloquent way of explaining the state of affairs between women and men. It’s so refreshing to have someone say so many of the things I’ve thought my whole life. Who knew I had a whole community of educated like minded women.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
They listen without understanding. The host are just " boys"
She is so right!! I was married for 16years; with him for about 20 and I was traumatized. A part of me wants marriage again; I love commitment to the right person but there is a strong part of me that says NEVER!
And ladies have your career, business-your own money when married. He didn’t want the divorce. If I didn’t have my own resources it would have been very hard to leave.
Those of you that have not married-hear to listen…seek understanding, know yourself, choose wisely. Gain all the wisdom you can before deciding to make one of the biggest decisions of your life.
Your experience right?
Are you a lesbian now?
Never ignore red flags, and stop focusing on the pinch of goodness he showed you. You can almost guarantee your time won't be wasted.
@@robirod7421 excuse me….?
Dear lady, 99.99 percent men are DETRIMENTAL to women.
Men drain life force energy from women. This is why married women age faster.
I hope the creators of this show rewatch this themselves and see how many times they missed the answer to their questions. And trying to gaslight her by cutting her off and asking her to basically “cut to the chase” was in fact the most annoying thing to watch happen, over and over and over.
I'm glad this is being said... as it happens often.
Yeah they dropped the ball on this kne
You are so right. Like Tim had to translate lol. There were only truly 2 intelligent people here and them 2 stooges weren't it
@kaijai006 facts
Yes, I sense the hatred and impatience pouring out of them. But she conducted herself with elegance. ❤
God job pastor Tim! Your Epiphany is spot on!
Man here. Christain. Non-feminist. I agree 80% with her, she’s absolutely brilliant and her perspective is needed. What I disagree with is some of her conclusions on the Bible and nature. For example studies have found that the divorce rate in lesbian marriage is 72%. Also 85% of incarcerated inmates come from single-mother lead homes. So the absence of man doesn’t equal utopia. Also in nature some species will pair-bond for life. And in Lion kingdom there’s only one lion per tribe. These dynamics from nature are inconclusive for family formation humans. I do agree we have fallen far from nature and what we do naturally, however the science in the Bible also debunks that as well. I am concerned that message may create anger man hating women and not the outcome she desires.
Religion has done more harm than good to people especially women.
My stepmom has been married to my dad for 25 years, one day we were having a conversation and she told me if I want to stay single for rest of my life, it’s ok. That hunted me for years! Since I’ve started listening to Princella , I understand why she made that statement.
I'm so sorry to hear that listening to her was what made you understand that statement from your stepmom. Did you ask her about why? Maybe she was coming from the Biblical perspective that it is okay to be single and stay that way and not from the rhetoric she so gladly stands on? Marriage is indeed not for everyone, but her ideas and using her wordsmithing to make it sound good is so wrong. Why do I say that? lYou can not quote polls and studies and present them as FACT! Those who created them wouldn't even do that.
@@willwashington1884You are on every comment trying to gaslight women and their experiences as if they need you to narrate what they have gone through… You are proving her point about men not being able to listen and being dismissive as hell. This is our reality, GET OVER IT! Or be left behind!!!
Wow!! Respect
@willwashington1884 Mr. Not so intellectual, statistics and large studies are the best way to gain factual information about a population as long as it comes from a reliable, credible and ethical source. 🤨
@@willwashington1884 Marriage is unnatural! People keep saying marriage is not everyone! Marriage is not for anyone period! Who said being single includes not be married!
She teaching them!!! They still can’t comprehend!!!!!😂😂
Tim is such a cutie pie. Princella standing on business. Like Tim really understood the assignment! And the hosts really proved her point thru and thru. They chose not to listen and hear her point of view and Tim consistently showed up for her. Apologizing for their mistakes, being vulnerable and listening. I love their union.
Also interesting how they are never able to acknowledge that Tim has acknowledged almost EVERYTHING she says as in alignment with his own beliefs and teachings.
Getting to the end… their closing comments are so ignorant. They’ve been closed minded this whole time and acting like they’re “wrapping it all up”
Omg I’m already pissed lol every woman with kids and no man in the house isn’t on welfare 🙄
Facts❤
This is a clear example of how far a hurt woman can go... n we as men have to own accountability to this... she's just a product of severe hurt pain and disappointment
Facts bro
Thanks so much Tim for acknowledging her pain that she went through instead of just dismissing it! That was powerful in itself.
Yeah, Ryan basically told her to "shut up, don't nobody wanna hear about how badly you've been treated by males." How does any woman listen to this guy?
But then he turned right back to how Jesus is the example that defies her points…. I don’t think that was done truly in altruism
2:31:12 cringe
@@CuriosityKilldBoredmit showed empathy and respect. You don’t have to agree with everything someone says. It was made very clear that the foundation of their ideals come from a completely different place.
@@lizb1061explain?
Man listen....2 hours in and I can say HANDS DOWN this is the best full circle conversation anybody has had with Princella. Pastor Ross is patient and that makes all the difference.
As a listener this takes a lot of patience and if something rubs you wrong, it's ok...don't click off....because so much of this is pin point accurate and necessary to reset a lot of mens' outlook.
Really, over 1 hour in. I could not understand much of what that lady was explaining ... And i am a woman. For the part i understood, she was much talking of a place of hurt. I could not agree with her opinions on men and women.
She lost me when she said that women do not need men.
That is misleading.
@@freshdesign2026 Try and actively listen to the whole podcast. It was enlightening and all parties were wonderfully polite and considerate. Princella does have some poignant insights we all can learn from. In a lot of ways, she is the voice of millions of suffering women. I really encourage you to listen. I know 3 hrs is long! I did chores while listening.
I really appreciate your willingness to Really listen. We are in critical times!
This is how Kings in Africa has lived for years, women and children lived alone
@@walterjohnson7455yep. It’s how all black people lived before colonialism. She has studied it. It’s in the books
I do not care about what is being said unless it relates to facts and what is happening in the real world, and Princella does just that, calling out what what you can see every where. Sentiments, hopes, fairytale dreams don't do nothing for women but get them used and abused. Too many people like to hold on to the few instances of "Genuine love" which is EXTREMELY RARE and not looking at the uncomfortable reality.
Whew! That woman is the truth! Love Princella 👑 Thank you for allowing her to speak on your platform and the respect you showed her was beautiful.
Princella is light years ahead; it will take many of you a lifetime to catch up. She’s 100% correct.
This is my first time hearing her speak, and she has validated what I suspected for a while now: men and women are simply not compatible. It’s very simple, actually, which is why the pattern keeps repeating itself rather we want it to or not.
God does not make a mistake, he created male and female. Genesis 1:27,28
Amen to that! @Laroc1982 they need deprogramming and look at the real truth
@mrwendell2343 and that, exactly, is what stops you from thinking further and finding truth. You ignore all that you see in order to believe something religion has told you to believe. So you say its not possible and turn your brain off, instead of looking at all the evidence and coming to the conclusions based on reality. I used to be just like you. Religion has been here long before you and will be long after. You did not come to believe what you do on your own accord, you were influenced to believe it. Those beliefs came from someone else, and you were socialized to believe it.
@@LouLouLion There is a God and his word is absolute. God created Adam and Eve. You are natural minded and going on science foolishness. I suspect, you are not genuine neither feminine. Woman is not the lead. God said it, I believe it. That settles it.
@@mrwendell2343Most women only orgasm via clitoral stimulation, not via penetration however all women short of a surrogate or a woman that utilizes a sperm bank or IVF become pregnant via penetrative, vaginal seggs. Conclusion: seggs is for procreation, next conclusion a baby can be ‘made’ in under 60 seconds via willing or coerced or grape vaginal seggs.
Wtf does one do outside of these 60 seconds? Argue? Be disappointed? Get bust upside their head? Clean? Walk on egg shells at HOME? I’m single for ten years and every now and then I crave peen, but I do not miss the day in, day out presence of a man in my personal life. That’s just me, but I am certain there are plenty of women out there with similar sentiments. TBC I never knew of a Princella until about two months ago or so …this was all me and my experience with men and my decision to just stay single after TRYING otherwise. Princella brought (for me) an awakening to the supporting science that all but prevents a male from meeting my higher needs, but I had given up on men almost a decade ago. I have not sued a man. I have not abused a man. I have not called the cops on a man in none of these ten years! I have been minding my business so I’m not out here hurting men!
Pastor Tim THANK YOU for acknowledging what she is saying! She is stating some experiences that women endure daily but are rarely heard AND blamed for how a man has treated them by men who do NOT have romantic relationships with men and by men who are the perpetrators of these experiences. 😢😭
They blamed Eve in the Garden and then blamed God. But a truly repented man will take the blame and acknowledge it’s him and him alone.
David did this when he sinned with Bathsheba in the Bible. He asked God to cleanse him. 1st John 1-10. Confession, helps one be cleansed.
Be blessed!
This queen is opening the book of knowledge and she’s holding her position.. she’s saying everything in a very organic way.. no sugarcoating here.. let him who have ears to hear.. please hear with the mindset that she maybe on to something.. she’s freeing people men and women! This is revolutionary!!!
I agree with the pecking order theorem and woman need to stop trying to “save” “men”
The way she expressed herself was in a true feminine manner, like a MOTHER 🌍
Powerful Conversation. What Princella is saying exists here in Tanzania! In some communities Husbands and Wives live peaceably in separately households usually on the same compound. The women have support of other women in the community to raise the children and boys and girls are reared separately for future life roles. Funny enough this is all Biblical and the Bible's culture is African. (only 30 min in to this video)
Also... what she's talking about men being together to establish a natural pecking order is essentially a "brotherhood" or "rights of passage"
Am sorry Sarah but you can not conclude that something is working based on few villages in Tanzania when Tanzania itself has not proven to be the most thriving country. May I ask what do you mean biblical culture is African? How many countries have you visited to conclude that Africa is the blueprint for biblical customs ? How did African become acquainted with the Bible?
I am African myself and the continent is faced with so many challenges because of the same culture and customs we think are superior to other cultures. Not having both parents in the household does not serve the family certainly does not improve the children’s development.
@@lonagwegwe…before colonialism Kenyan culture, most Bantu culture was as Princella described. The wife and husband slept in different structures within a compound. The children were raised in said compound. For the record, the oldest bible with all 88 books is the Ethiopian bible. Bantu and Niger-Congo cultures are all mostly Old Testament. Look it up.
@@lonagwegwe I am not sure why you are asking her all of these questions. What did she say specifically that you are essentially disagreeing with. Let's start there.
@@AscendinSoul and is Kenya the most prosperous nation? What did that segregation do positively for the family structure?
I’ve been SEVERAL relationships and the queen maker is correct. I’ve always thrived better by myself and when I allow a man in my space he drains me and becomes lazy. He Wants my grace, confidence, strength and beauty. People naturally want to do for me and the man hates that
What a beautiful conversation, just beautiful ❤️ This podcast is on another level, shout out to the hosts🎉
You see how the hosts gave Tim the respect to feel and get through his point without having any questions or needing any clarity or told him to hurry up and get through it and give them a simple yes or no. It shows you how differently the message hits for “180” men who understands the conditions men who have not submitted to the creators will for men. She is absolutely right and I pray that God changes these men’s hearts to see her message clearly and they submit to the creator to change their heart posture.
The only way we can change things as men is be great and be the 1% of men she’s talking about. EXACTLY, many are called few are chosen and that’s biblical.
Let’s be real here… she takes 30 mins to answer 1 question. There are two people on this panel that need to even speak their point for both sides. In order to run this show, Tim also needed more time to talk. She took long point blank period, so much so that she spoke the majority of the time #facts.
Because when asked a question. She gives a 10 minute answer… She said it herself that men are analytical, so we don’t need 20 analogies to get her point. Granted what she says makes sense.. a lot of sense. But getting to the point faster would is cool
@keturahmorris5075 exactly it was so hard to listen
@@RodneyFxy’all have short attention spans like goldfish. Many concepts take a good 10 minutes to explain or more. There are no 10 minute classes. And analogies are part of analyzing things.
People ask her experience to place judgment and to dismiss her message. Then to be gaslighting her is disgusting.
Right ..I wish she would stop giving them coupons to discount her message. But she decides how best to do what she's doing.
I love this conversation and I love, understand and respect both sides. Thank you for this Collab🙏🏼