My Specialita changed my ideas about Italian manufacturing--very solid, reliable unit. I used it daily for seven years before putting it in storage when I bought a Mahlkonig EK43. The Eureka is very well built, stylish as hell and quiet, a beautiful grinder. This new Libra looks like a nice choice. Thanks for a great look at the machine.
Thanks for sharing - yes I very much like the Eureka Mignon line. They did a great job designing the grinders. The Libra is sweet for the included scale.
I have an Alfa Forni wood fire pizza oven that I bought during Covid and I bought it because it was both designed and manufactured in Italy. It's beautiful and I chose a gorgeous Italian yellow powder coated finish. So many other products are designed in the States or in Europe but then the manufacturing takes place over in China. With all of the supply chain and shipping issues that were happening, getting it from Italy avoided all of that mess. Anyway, my Gaggia Classic Pro is made in Italy, my pizza oven is made in Italy, and once I purchase a Eureka I can say my grinder is also made in Italy! 😂
Nice! It would be very interesting to see a comparison with the eureka specialista and how much difference there is in accuracy time based vs weight based.
Excellent review! I enjoyed watching you put it through its paces from start to finish. This was another grinder that was up for consideration when I was shopping around. There are a lot of grinders in the market, but this one has a great counter space footprint (If a little tall!). I don't think some people take grind retention into consideration, and that you can be putting grinds from the last machines use into your current cup. A 0.1g retention is very very good! Also as an aside, i've taken to stiring my espresso with a demitass spoon, and I couldn't believe how much it evened out the flavor profile of my espresso shots. You should give it a try if you haven't already!
Hi there! Thanks for your feedback. What I tested was how accurate the integrated Libra scale is, and it is very good at just a 0.1g deviation. But that doesn't indicate the retention. I am guessing this will have similar retention to the Specialita, but I have to test that first. Cheers!
Hallo Tom, Eureka Mignon Libra benutze ich seit 6 Monaten. Eine sehr praktische und problemlose Kaffeemühle. Ich habe mich schnell daran gewöhnt, damit zu arbeiten. Zusätzlich habe ich mir anstelle des Standardbehälters für Kaffeebohnen einen „Coffee Grinder Single Dose Funnel for Eureka Mignon Grinder 2 in 1 Function Coffee Grinder Accessories Funnel Hand Pressure Silicone Bellows for Cleaning and Collecting Coffee Grounds“ dazu gekauft.
Hi Tom, soon I will have a Gaggia Evo Pro, preparing two coffees and two cappuccinos, which of these grinders would you recommend: Eureka Mignon Perfetto or Manual or Lelit Fred or William? I thank you
My question is how you get those thick heads of crema i used very fr3sh beans usually roasted within one week from me using them. Is it your cup? I get about an ⅛ of an inch but not a ½inch like you
Oh, perhaps someday...so many grinders, so little time. :) I think they're both gonna give very similar results with very similar burr design. But you have to get the Encore ESP.
What I would be very interested would be a Eureka Libra with either the new Oro burrs and motor combo Or go with the standard 64mm burrs, so you can play with ssp burrs. The automatic scale is such a quality of life feature, especially when you don't change between beans all the time and don't single dose
Thanks for review. Is 4 week old from roasted coffee not a little bit old? My coffee comes fresh less than a week after roasting and within 3 weeks there’s a notable difference in the oils in the beans when grinding. For the grinder I’m really struggling to choose one to match to my new ECM Mechanika VI heritage and I’m between this Libra, the Oro or XL (to get 65mm burrs) or the Malhkonig X54. Would love yours (anybody’s view). Thanks
For sure get a Eureka over the X54. It is made in Italy, and way more robust. Also smaller footprint. I'd go with the Libra, to help with workflow. As for beans, I find 4 week old beans just fine. Above 8 weeks it gets quite difficult to get any crema, and aromatics go missing.
Hi Tom. I don't want to duplicate my comments. I got my Eureka Mignon Specialita since almost two weeks and I'm happy about this grinder. More my thoughts in my comment under 'Live Video: DeLonghi Dedica Full Tutorial!' live stream on your channel. Thank you for recommending the Specialita. Cheers, Bart. 😎👍
Hi Tom, I just bought my Libra and 1-4 are way too fine for my Lelit to even begin extracting. I am using specialty coffee which needs to be ground coarser but still in order to pull a shot I had to go to setting 5+. Is this normal?
Yes, I'm still experimenting with it. It works great, and provides grinds like the Specialita. Just have to make sure to use a funnel with the grinder. Which espresso machine would you be using?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner well I’m trying to find a sweet spot so my wife can enjoy when I’m not at home. So it has to check some boxes to not over complicate the process for her because she doesn’t nerd out like me. Looking at the Ascaso Uno because we don’t do any steaming, just Americanos. Right now I do all the shot making with my Cafelat Robot and J-Max/Lagom Mini. I’d go Ascaso UNO with Niche Zero if I felt like she would single dose without complaining 😆
No, as far as I can see, it can only grind while weighing. It would be nice to be able to bypass that feature. I will ask the manufacturer if this might be possible.
@@michelleflint8389 Yes, but this still requires a PF to be mounted in the holder, as far as I know. It is always looking to weigh something. It would be nice to bypass the weighing when using a PF that does not fit, or to go into a catch cup.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Tom do you know whether the Eureka funnel also is available to fit the 54mm Breville Barista Pro although I am actually using the 54mm Normcore bottomless portafilter. Also, I almost purchased the Rancilio Stile but I think they have made it very difficult to acess the burrs for periodic cleaning etc which if true, is a ridiculous design decision which I would not buy into. So now I'm back to comparing Specialita vs Magnifico vs Libra and maybe the Turbo (?) if It's available in Australia. Cheers.
They do not provide the dosing funnel any more and it is a real problem, because when you grind, a lot of coffee goes out of the portafilter basket. It is a real design problem, solved by the funnel - they should include it
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I am pretty sure this is not the problem. They are saving small money and damaging their good brand. It is definitely a design problem if you can't grind more than a few grams of coffee without spreading it outside of the basket. They used to supply it in the box, but not anymore. I have sent them a few mails, but they are not willing to send me the funnel
I wouldn't call it a design flaw. Grinders with integrated scales are sensitive and require correct operation. With all the basket sizes out there, you need to purchase the correct one to fit your basket. That being said, it would be nice if you could choose a size when buying, that would be included.@@jarequemetabolski
Wow, I also like the look, 1st impressions. This was a very nice presentation, Tom. Good quality grinder.... from Italy.
My Specialita changed my ideas about Italian manufacturing--very solid, reliable unit. I used it daily for seven years before putting it in storage when I bought a Mahlkonig EK43. The Eureka is very well built, stylish as hell and quiet, a beautiful grinder. This new Libra looks like a nice choice. Thanks for a great look at the machine.
Thanks for sharing - yes I very much like the Eureka Mignon line. They did a great job designing the grinders. The Libra is sweet for the included scale.
I have an Alfa Forni wood fire pizza oven that I bought during Covid and I bought it because it was both designed and manufactured in Italy. It's beautiful and I chose a gorgeous Italian yellow powder coated finish. So many other products are designed in the States or in Europe but then the manufacturing takes place over in China. With all of the supply chain and shipping issues that were happening, getting it from Italy avoided all of that mess. Anyway, my Gaggia Classic Pro is made in Italy, my pizza oven is made in Italy, and once I purchase a Eureka I can say my grinder is also made in Italy! 😂
@@chriskvikstad4980 italian job!
That shoot looked good! Nice video as always Tom✌️
Nice! It would be very interesting to see a comparison with the eureka specialista and how much difference there is in accuracy time based vs weight based.
Very happy with my libra!! Greetz from the Netherlands
Excellent review! I enjoyed watching you put it through its paces from start to finish. This was another grinder that was up for consideration when I was shopping around. There are a lot of grinders in the market, but this one has a great counter space footprint (If a little tall!). I don't think some people take grind retention into consideration, and that you can be putting grinds from the last machines use into your current cup. A 0.1g retention is very very good! Also as an aside, i've taken to stiring my espresso with a demitass spoon, and I couldn't believe how much it evened out the flavor profile of my espresso shots. You should give it a try if you haven't already!
Hi there! Thanks for your feedback. What I tested was how accurate the integrated Libra scale is, and it is very good at just a 0.1g deviation. But that doesn't indicate the retention. I am guessing this will have similar retention to the Specialita, but I have to test that first. Cheers!
Hallo Tom,
Eureka Mignon Libra benutze ich seit 6 Monaten. Eine sehr praktische und problemlose Kaffeemühle. Ich habe mich schnell daran gewöhnt, damit zu arbeiten.
Zusätzlich habe ich mir anstelle des Standardbehälters für Kaffeebohnen einen „Coffee Grinder Single Dose Funnel for Eureka Mignon Grinder 2 in 1 Function Coffee Grinder Accessories Funnel Hand Pressure Silicone Bellows for Cleaning and Collecting Coffee Grounds“ dazu gekauft.
Hi Tom, soon I will have a Gaggia Evo Pro, preparing two coffees and two cappuccinos, which of these grinders would you recommend: Eureka Mignon Perfetto or Manual or Lelit Fred or William? I thank you
“That is delightful”, is owned by you 🙌😄
My question is how you get those thick heads of crema i used very fr3sh beans usually roasted within one week from me using them. Is it your cup? I get about an ⅛ of an inch but not a ½inch like you
Thank you. Can you please do a comparison between the Breville Smart Grinder Pro and the Baratza Encore.
Oh, perhaps someday...so many grinders, so little time. :) I think they're both gonna give very similar results with very similar burr design. But you have to get the Encore ESP.
What I would be very interested would be a Eureka Libra with either the new Oro burrs and motor combo
Or go with the standard 64mm burrs, so you can play with ssp burrs. The automatic scale is such a quality of life feature, especially when you don't change between beans all the time and don't single dose
Thanks for watching, comments welcome!
Hello what's the cheapest grinder you recommend for espresso machines?
Are there any difference between the Libra and the Mignon XL besides the weight control?
Thanks for any input.
Well, the XL has 65 instead of 55mm burrs, so it'll be faster. Should be similar, otherwise.
Hey Tom! Nice video as always! Where did you get the 57 mm dosing funnel from?:)
Hey Clemens, it’s actually a 58mm from Eureka. 😊
@@TomsCoffeeCornerThanks for the fast reply! Does it fit well on the 57 mm though?
@@clemensrausch23 It leaves a small gap, but it works fine.
Thanks for review. Is 4 week old from roasted coffee not a little bit old? My coffee comes fresh less than a week after roasting and within 3 weeks there’s a notable difference in the oils in the beans when grinding. For the grinder I’m really struggling to choose one to match to my new ECM Mechanika VI heritage and I’m between this Libra, the Oro or XL (to get 65mm burrs) or the Malhkonig X54. Would love yours (anybody’s view). Thanks
For sure get a Eureka over the X54. It is made in Italy, and way more robust. Also smaller footprint. I'd go with the Libra, to help with workflow.
As for beans, I find 4 week old beans just fine. Above 8 weeks it gets quite difficult to get any crema, and aromatics go missing.
Hi Tom. I don't want to duplicate my comments. I got my Eureka Mignon Specialita since almost two weeks and I'm happy about this grinder. More my thoughts in my comment under 'Live Video: DeLonghi Dedica Full Tutorial!' live stream on your channel. Thank you for recommending the Specialita. Cheers, Bart. 😎👍
Right on Bart!
Do you have any information on the availability and prices of the next Mignon Single Dosing Pro (65 and 75mm)?
Nope, not yet!
Hi Tom, I just bought my Libra and 1-4 are way too fine for my Lelit to even begin extracting. I am using specialty coffee which needs to be ground coarser but still in order to pull a shot I had to go to setting 5+. Is this normal?
It could be. Just coarsen until it flows properly. :)
Is it possible to change the burr set to a 65mm?
That I don't know. I'd have to have a look. But I don't think so, because the grinding chamber is too small to accomodate that, I think.
@@TomsCoffeeCorneris there a way to get in touch with you so that we can contact eachother once you find out for sure?
this is the one grinder i am very interested in but i heard the retention is quite bad?
Retention is the same as all other Mignons, about 1.5 grams. You can add a bellows to reduce it though.
Narrowing down my grinder search. Are you still using the Libra? What are your thoughts now with it? Any deal breakers?
Yes, I'm still experimenting with it. It works great, and provides grinds like the Specialita. Just have to make sure to use a funnel with the grinder. Which espresso machine would you be using?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner well I’m trying to find a sweet spot so my wife can enjoy when I’m not at home. So it has to check some boxes to not over complicate the process for her because she doesn’t nerd out like me. Looking at the Ascaso Uno because we don’t do any steaming, just Americanos. Right now I do all the shot making with my Cafelat Robot and J-Max/Lagom Mini. I’d go Ascaso UNO with Niche Zero if I felt like she would single dose without complaining 😆
Single dosing is cumbersome, to be honest. The Uno would be a nice choice: temp probe in the brew group is super duper nice.@@jwanger142
Can you use it without the auto dozing? I mean when it gets stuck - can you press the screen to get a timed doze? Thanks
No, as far as I can see, it can only grind while weighing. It would be nice to be able to bypass that feature. I will ask the manufacturer if this might be possible.
I've just read pressing single and double dose enters continous dose for max 30 seconds so yes you can
@@michelleflint8389 Yes, but this still requires a PF to be mounted in the holder, as far as I know. It is always looking to weigh something. It would be nice to bypass the weighing when using a PF that does not fit, or to go into a catch cup.
Hi Tom
I saw this review of the Eureka. But did you know that Solis has a coffee grinder made by Eureka and it's only €289 question is how good it is?
Yes, I see that Solis must have paid a license to put their name on it....
@@TomsCoffeeCorner yes, but how good is it compared to the original, because its if I'm not wrong almost a €99 cheaper, it might be a steal?
where did you source the 57mm funnel for the Grace? how come it has "Eureka" on it? came with the grinder?
It's actually the 58mm funnel from Eureka. It fits 57mm well enough, too.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Tom do you know whether the Eureka funnel also is available to fit the 54mm Breville Barista Pro although I am actually using the 54mm Normcore bottomless portafilter. Also, I almost purchased the Rancilio Stile but I think they have made it very difficult to acess the burrs for periodic cleaning etc which if true, is a ridiculous design decision which I would not buy into. So now I'm back to comparing Specialita vs Magnifico vs Libra and maybe the Turbo (?) if It's available in Australia. Cheers.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I highly recommend using a funnel with a lip because it reduces the doughnut extraction effect.
i bought a $30 grinder from Amazon and it makes great espressso waaaaaayyyyyy better then the preground
What model was that Lelio???
Lelit
That was a Grace. Cheers!
I don't care about this but I'm watching the video hoping you get more traction anyway!
Ok, that was very interesting 😂
Haha, thanks for the engagement bump!
Did you plant that bag of Dinzler in the supermakt? Thomas! Sei nicht so frech! :)
Lol, no I didn't. Our Edeka sells Dinzler, Martyrmuehle, and other local roasters. :)
They do not provide the dosing funnel any more and it is a real problem, because when you grind, a lot of coffee goes out of the portafilter basket. It is a real design problem, solved by the funnel - they should include it
The thing is, there are different sizes to the portafilters...you need to choose between 54mm and 58mm.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I am pretty sure this is not the problem. They are saving small money and damaging their good brand. It is definitely a design problem if you can't grind more than a few grams of coffee without spreading it outside of the basket.
They used to supply it in the box, but not anymore. I have sent them a few mails, but they are not willing to send me the funnel
Totally agree! A 500€ grinder with a design flaw should definitely include a funnel and the manufacturer 100% knows it.
I wouldn't call it a design flaw. Grinders with integrated scales are sensitive and require correct operation. With all the basket sizes out there, you need to purchase the correct one to fit your basket. That being said, it would be nice if you could choose a size when buying, that would be included.@@jarequemetabolski
I agree! :)@@TomsCoffeeCorner
heavy version of a dosing cup is a solution .
The price difference is huge with the Mignon Specialita ( ~170eur), I'm not convinced that it's worth it
Well, it's super nice to not have to weigh your shots. And if you consider that a good scale also costs money, I think it's worth it. Cheers!
my specialita pulls 17 grams in 8.2 sec
Nice, that's pretty fast!
Lelit Grace is the worst sounding machine I've ever heard.
😂 It’s a great machine but yes, it sounds like a turd.