@@HiLoMusic It's a combination between the great improvements brought upon by the 6.0 update and the Boron species and ships.. I'm a sucker for organic, high-tech ships.
The only thing for me missing in this fantastic game is still the possibility to talk more to NPCs. It feels so amazing having a wingman, but a little bit of chatting with them would be nice. It feels so cold. But i know this game is more for Excel fans and strategy fans. Its not an RPG and will never be. But i agree with you. It's a great game.
Would love to enter my ship and see the pilot leaning on a handrail and say "Ready whenever you are" while moving to get back in their seat, or a weapons specialist suggesting you upgrade your lower class weapons seeing as you have the credits and are in a system with a weapons store.
Over 1,400 hours in this game and I am nowhere near done! I'll be playing this in 5-6 years when X5 releases (hopefully). I LOVE this game. Favorite fighter: Mamba Favorite Weapon: Blast Mortar/Beam Laser
Love Kingdom End's ambiance, always have, followed by Seizewell, relaxing and satisfying, I had my HQ in Kingdom end last time I played X series, it was X2 a while back
In terms of what is next, my wish list is a bit extensive, but I hope to see them, 1) A storyline primarily focused on the player establishing a Corporation, and the reactions of various nations depending on where you establish your HQ, and what you chose for your Corporation to specialize in. And example would be if you decide to focus on Terraforming (and this would be an excellent time to expand the Terraforming options to include Split and Boron space) then the Argon/Antigone would try to cozy up to you to make more of their planets habitable, the Teladi would seek to become your exclusive suppliers, Split would react with aggression to steal resources from you, the Terrans would be indifferent, and the Boron would send scientists and support personnel to study under you. Choose to specialize in ship construction, Factions would jocky to have you establish your primary shipyards in their space, but woe to your company if you decide to establish a Shipyard in an opposing faction. So on and so on. 2) More fluid AI diplomacy, not quite to the point of declaring outright war on each other, but more border skirmishes, trade wars, and temporary hostilities. Example, the Teladi would try to avoid declaring all out war on the Argon, but they sure would hire pirates and privateers to decrease the Argon's supply/market share of say Graphene, so Teladi sellers make more profitssssss. In the reverse, the Argon would restrict Teladi shipments if they found out they where selling to the Holy Order of Ponifex, and seek to blockade their shipments, to which the Teladi would respond with escorted Blockade runners. Just that slight extra resource drain, and adding a bit more life and flexibility to the universe. 3) An expansion to the base factions to include a few extra ship classes, full fledged Battleships are one class the factions need (Or an equivalent, Split would likely make fast battle cruisers with lots of weapons but mediocre defenses, the Boron would make a fully fledged supercarrier, Argon would likely make a command style Battleship focused around turrets and Heavy Shields, the Holy Order would make a ship centered around a high range, high alpha damage missile battery, while the Godrealm would focus on a huge mass driver not too dissimilar to to Terran mega laser, the Teladi would embrace their inner capitalist and either make a true super freighter, or more likely, a Mobile trade station based on a super carrier esq design) Another idea would be a "Mining Carrier" basically an XL carrier with say 4 small ship docks with storage for 4 more ships, and 2 M class docks, but a butt load of solid/liquid storage, and it would depend on small and medium class ships to mine for it. 4) an expansion to minor factions and guilds, IE Teladi/Antigone trade guilds, an actual Hatickva expansion, an Ministry of Finance storyline (hell just a Teladi storyline period would be nice). 5) A Kha'ak expansion, they don't need a rework, but with a bigger focus on the Kha'ak as an antagonist in Kingdom's End, a storyline that involves trying to figure them out would be welcome, doesn't have to be a full communications establishment, but just SOMETHING about why the Kha'ak are the way they are. I have more, but this is already a long post, but the general ideas are there. They have already made clear they aren't adding more sectors, so I feel a focus on the smaller powers, as well as introducing more smaller powers that are more flexible in how they act in the game, for or against the player and larger powers, would add more life to the game.
I've just bought X4 and I'm looking forward to finishing the tutorials and getting into the game. I'm really impressed by how sleek everything looks, and the scope of the game is spectacular.
@@planexshifter I've sort of become a military industrial complex... alot of fun but I'm not at the empire stage. To be honest I've not played the game in a while, not because I'm not enjoying it anymore but because there's been so many good releases this year.
@@WatchMysh Hey there, thanks for the reply. I understand the basics about flying, making missions, assigning mining ships automatically etc., but I am overwhelmed by the possibilities of the economical part of the game. E.g. I want to build a station, but I just don't know where to start. I know there are plenty of "how to make money fast" type of guides out there, but that is not what I am looking for, because this would kinda spoil my experience. I want to figure things out for myself, make mistakes and learn from them. I just don't know how to begin with anything in that matter. I'm not looking for a walkthrough (and other videos feel just like that), more of a "hint" or a guidance how to get into the economy of X4. That said, I am looking forward to any content of yours, even if it's not covering my needs and wishes for this game. :)
This Music is from X3:Reunion. Can´t count how many hours i was sitting in their home sector, listening to this track and activate sinza (turbo mode, don´t know the english name for it ^^) while my traders earn tons of money. Compared to the older X games, making money in X4 might be a bit easy, but i play it since releaseday and i liked it from the go...even with these bugs and so on. Today, with version 6.0, they really put very hard work into it and it is even better than before. Its worth every minute you play it, but that is just my opinion 🙂
The nostalgia from the Kingdom End music was a little overwhelming. I remember the first time i entered KE in TC and i was blown away by the music. The ships are awesome too! The shark in particular looks really menacing and powerful now!
The game has been sitting on my steam account since its early days untouched. I gave it 30 minutes and the control mappings were so odd I put it down. I keep saying I need to get in so I'm looking forward to your how to video
Kingdom End is amazing. Transport and Mining ships from Boron are now easily the best for pretty much all cases. Good capacity, good speed, and boron engines have no travel drive spin-up time. Hydra is an amzing player ship, and it's very fast. Started a new campaign and didn't work my way to Ray/Guppy and above yet, but from the stats they also look really good. The high speed of the boron ships is extremely valuable in a game without the super highway (which I'm currently playing).
Yes, please, teach me how to X4. I've had this game in my lib since it launched as it was a big deal in the german speaking cons I went to. Got in and was instantly turned off. I like playing sim games but damn X4 has so much stuff that it's hard to get into without someone to help you get your bearings.
To be honest, I'm a bit in the same boat even though I played the shit out of X2 and X3 as a teenager. Maybe it's because I'm older now and I don't have the time to really take a deep dive into it? Maybe for you it would be a good idea to get a copy of X3: Terran Conflict or Albion Prelude and play with those to get at least a grasp on the basic design principles of an X game? Trading feels a tad more simple there and easier to get into. Admittedly, my own first dive was X2 with my computer covered in post it notes where I kept track of the prices I was seeing for different goods to get more of a feel when trading is profitable and when it is not.
Well. Honestly just figure out your goal in game. Mines was to start off hunting pirates and taking their ships selling them to buy mining ships. Mine to fund my first station for income. Buy more ships for mining. Do some missions join a faction. Fight some xenon BUY more ships. Smuggle drugs for income. Eclipse vanguard heavy Fighter still my favorite small ship. After getting about 10 of these adding beams and bolts. I make a small fleet of the same eclipses with torpedoes and tracking missiles. Sooner or later late game pirates show up with these behemoths that you can steal which will give you your first L ship. From there it's rinse and repeat until you unlock your base then do research. I enjoy watching wars happen and picking up all the loot. End game goal was to make a ship factory to fund anyone's war. Yes... space capitalism is actually fun.. I guess the best part is when you finally get your xl ship and have 40 small ships and you undock them... it's like watching you bee swarm attack. 10/10. Do anything you want. I recommend turning kha'ak off ruins my game play completely.
It took me 2 months of subconscious processing in the background without touching the game for it to "click" for me. Don't worry about trying to "win". Just go in and have fun, whether that is through trading, combat, mining, or exploring. Start over as many times as you need to until you get a good feel for things. It s easy to make money in this game once you get going, think a few hours. Missions can provide decent funds as well. Good luck!
I bought it right away but have not yet jumped into the added content, I started a new playthrough a few weeks ago and am still getting my player base and terraforming setup sorted out... but the Boron ships look AMAZING... def. looking forward to jumping into it.
I hope they complete the sector information and the weapon information， in the old days I played X3 I can read the in game Wikipedia for all day. the stories are so detailed that I feel it really happened in that universe
Honestly, the very first Paranid capital ships compared to these boron capital ships, looks like a completely different game. The original paranid capital ships looks VERY bad, and these boron ships looks amazing.
I had already started replacing my entire fleet with Boron ships, for sure the best looking ships in the game right now. X Universe is finally whole again (minus some hundred systems that are still missing xd)
There's one thing about the X games that always kinda put me off: no alien languages. When talking to aliens you can just make up the classic universal translator, but when it comes to ship names and name tags and the like, I'd love to not have names like "Shark" or "Barracuda" because, well, that's Earth creatures.
I always think of it like "NATO designations" like Foxhound for the Mig-31 and so on. So in my head the Boron have their own names and we just call them Shark and Guppy.
Guns are okay-ish as far as I can tell so far. I'm testing around with S and M guns atm and can't find anything overpowered, yet. But I still have to do some tests on combinations. Phase guns do heavy hull damage for example. This in combination with like Argon Ion cannons could lead to some pretty nice results. We'll see. Thing is: the weapons aren't compatible. You can't put Boron ion rail guns on a Dragon Raider for example.
it's a niche game. The reason being, it's not for people who want easy gameplay. This is micromanagement and space exploration at it's finest. Unfortunately the melonheads who made X-Rebirth were absolute morons and almost killed the franchise.
@@WatchMysh The Space Sim market is bigger than the attention it gets from the publishing side of things. But the sub-genres suffer the most. Mass market gameplay in games such as Chorus and Everspace, to some degree Star Citizen, get the money but the detailed freelancer/elite type games are still considered in the realm of flight sim enthusiast markets. The kind of games that people wouldn't buy without a HOTAS. But this is one exception for me. I think it's sandbox is perfect for people who want to slowplay a game over weeks/months. Not fast food gaming however.
Did they ever fix the problem the game used to have where NPCs working for you stopped functioning if you were close enough to see them? (So you could never see your minions going about their tasks?) Great videos! Really hoping I can check this out again soon, as that one issue was really what was holding me back. :)
@@WatchMysh Thanks for the quick reply! NPCs doing stuff, iirc. When I was first trying to get into it I started running into lots of reports of NPCs not being able to simulate if you were in proximity to them, so you had to make sure you were always somewhere away from your workers to make sure they carried out their orders effectively.
@@FowaDeLuz Just to make sure: Right now I'm sitting in Nopileos on one of my five stations there and I watch my like 30 miners and 10 traders doing what I told them to to - or what the station managers told them. No need to leave the system.
What about the game starts? It looks like you need to discover the Borons first as a prior faction, but if you start as a Boron? Is the connection already there? Or do you have a second story for that to create the connection?
Thanks very much, great video! If you are someone who does enjoy space combat and upgrading ships ala "Elite Dangerous" is that to be found here? How is the combat system?
It's not a combat game as such. You can have a lot of fighting if you want, but the game is a sandbox simulation, so you will often be either outgunned or outgun. Choose your fights, so to speak. Ship upgrade is that ships can have several level of equipment (mostly 3 for smaller ones) and more or less free weapon choice (can't put a torpedo launcher on a scout). You can also put mods on your ship - you have to gather the parts for that though. But honestly, just get the base game if you are unsure as it's on sale and play a while. The game is hard to get into because it's so big, but if you still have fun after 3 days, get the expansions (and maybe start a new one with what you have learned). If you like Elite you have to get this too, even if in the end you think it's not your line because it's too much economy. (btw. spoiler: getting the player HQ pays off in getting mods and teleport ability)
Could you imagine if this game ran more on the gpu then cpu its smooth but when big battle fps still tanks even with a beefy pc. but how about if it also ran on unreal engine 5
But did they fix the AI though? Pretty much the only thing keeping me from returning to this game is the frustration of actually trying to run an empire.
one thing about this game i cant get over is being attached to a wheelchair for eva wheen its supposed to be far in the future.. they have to get rid of that mechanic lol
idk why I bought this game while having gtx1050 I havent started it yet and I guess I wont till I have a new laptop and who knows when will I get it,but it looks cool af
@@naioziren6831 Hard to say... 4c8t should be enough, though. Guess you just have to try. I'd expect like 20-40 fps depending on the situation in 1080p medium to low.
I get "mostly positive" for X4 and "mostly positive" for Kingdom End. But KE got some very bad reviews recently. Some people have the opinion that the DLC is not good enough / not living up to their expectations. Well... X always divided people. Everyone wants other things improved because of vastly different play styles. Some are complaining about "hard quests". The X series never held your hand so I personally don't expect a lot of guidance. Could put you off if you're not familiar with the series. If you ask me personally: compared to one horrible mission with a switch puzzle in the Terran DLC, the KE quests are straightforward and easy to play. If you're unsure, just get the base game on sale and give it a try. Most of the mechanics and all the improvements are included there. DLCs only (mostly) expand the universe/factions.
is it possible to randomize the sector aswell as the derelict locations? I always enjoyed finding abandoned ships in space and even better with a random sector like in starsector
@@WatchMysh that's not a lot of people, but I guess in this case all they really need is a couple of modellers and artists, 2-4 programmers, project managers and a team lead. I wish they would use Unreal Engine though so I could go work with them. I could make the game shine.
@@tehf00n unreal engine doesn't do anything they need, would add difficulty to make needed changes, stop them from doing core changes, and even make them lose profit
@@jh5kl dont talk shit to me mate. I'm a 13 year Unreal Engine veteran and nothing they did in this game is special. I could replicate all of it better and make it multiplayer at the same time. Not to mention increase the size of the universe to 88million KM. I could also improve the graphics, have a better system of patching, and countless other things. So don't tell me about what Unreal can do you uninformed mitrochondrial peon.
I'd love to. But there's no information available at the moment. All we know is that "they are not done" and will continue to work on the game. But I'll see if I can dig out more. :) Thanks for the comment!
@@WatchMysh ok a Friend told me that they don’t want to add new sectors or factions with the next dlc but improve the current structure but I found nothing to prove this claim … Thanks for the video!! X is a Great universe and your video showed the improvements they made!
@@icehelion9788 I can't remember where I heard it from... but yes: I remember something similar. Maybe from an Interview or so. But I'm not 100% sure. Well... I'll do some research and maybe I find someone who knows. :)
@@JAnx01 Yes. Afaik you can destroy every single station on the map and take over all their sectors. I never tried anything like that but technically it should be possible.
I guess after you've earned some money that's possible. Maybe even from the start? Haven't tried. The game tends to shift to be played from the map around mid game anyways for most people.
I have X4, had it a long time but sadly I've put no time into it because I really dislike the UI, it's not user friendly at all, quite the opposite, so I find myself going back to X2 when I want a game. shame really
X4 has heavy system requirements and a lot of people even with high end computers still have issues with that game. Get X2 or X3 the 4th isn't that different from second or third game. Think about how much ram your pc has and memory because otherwise you won't be able to run it (Vram). X4 is boring very slow basically a Sci Fi ship simulator with stupid hard controls.
Yes. Just the latests CPUs starting from the 5800X3D and 12th gen Intel are doing an adequate job in late game. But X4 is massively different under the hood from X4. There's no AI cheating anymore. Only the factions have infinite money so they can't go bankrupt. Everything else is completely simulated. You're not so dependent on VRAM. X4 is rather modest on the GPU side if you don't use volumetric fog or complex shadows. You'd rather have a fast CPU with high single core performance / IPC and 32GB of RAM along with a fast SSD. You can speed up the game by a) knowing how to earn money quickly and b) construct a SETA drive which enables x5 time acceleration. If you find it to be boring, that's okay. Maybe try Everspace 2 then, great game. In my books X4 is one oft the most fun and not-boring games ever. But everyone is different. :)
@@alextopman5977 The engine and the game itself. I can't get constant 60fps in midgame even with my rig (3090/5800X3D/48GB). So unless performance increase a lot we can't power VR headsets with 90fps+ on both eyes.
@@WatchMysh You don't need a stable 60 fps because reprojections work in VR. With them, it is enough to have only half of the target value. ED quite enough 60 fps to play well (only 30 from PC).
@@alextopman5977 doesn't work for everyone. I'm really sensitive when it comes to frame rates. In VR I need 90fps stable without reprojection or I'll puke after 30 minutes max. That's why I couldn't play DCS/IL2 in VR until I got my new rig.
I will with the new dlc. :) Thing is though: watch time reduces significantly over the X4 series while the production effort is high. "how to X4" speaks to a lot of people but the other more specific videos don't attract many. So... it's not that I don't want to make X4 videos. I just think there aren't a lot of topics you guys would watch.
@@WatchMysh makes sense, guides and reviews always do well. There is another youtuber that made a 100 hour of x4 video like those styled 100 days in "survival game" challenges and it ended very well in views :) another thing is maybe check out similar games like starsector, or maybe even the beast that is eve online ;) videos on niche space games seem to do good since there is quite a bit of demand but no supply here on UA-cam for it. As for production cost (time and effort) I do think reviews and guides take more time than a 100 hour or gameplay video as editing in the guides and reviews are much more than a mostly gameplay video where you just need to cut together footage with minor voice overs after recording to tie it all together. This is my commenting channel btw I do UA-cam on another channel that is actually my full time job currently so I'm happy to give the advice:)
@@umadbroimatroll7918 Alright ... now I've got some free time ... Thanks for your input! You're a full time youtuber? That's awesome. Care to share your channel? You can also send it to my contact mail if you don't want to share it here. :) I've been pondering about what kind of content to make besides tutorials and tech. Next up is a video about an old space game I think would be worth getting a remake. And my War Thunder Tutorial just hit 1 Million views - so I though about making a video called "how to make a 1 million views gaming tutorial" where I share how I produce my stuff. These kinds of videos are known to be able to skyrocket - what do you think? And thanks for the idea to make videos about niche space games. How did you get the impression there's a not enough supply on this topic on youtube? I got the opposite impression like everyone is doing niche space game videos ... lol :)
@@WatchMysh war thunder is a good one, lots of people making content for it but if you already have a leg in with your video it's more likely to recommend a new war thunder video to people that saw your other videos. I'll get into contact on email with you for discord, and yeah making videos on how to make videos and get views always seem to do good, but I'd recommend only do it sparingly as channels that focus on that are seen as not genuine. As for the space game niche is just that the number of content creators for games eve online, star sector, x4, old games like freelancer, etc. You can count on one hand the number that actually edit thier videos properly and so dont reach the full view potential, even unedited videos end up with 10k due to people playing those games not having other options for better content. Of course it's all speculation when taking the UA-cam algorithm into account but the more research and effort you put in, the more you will overtime learn the algorithm :)
so did they change how the main mission for boron start in young gun story, i scanned the station of leak, before it told me to go back on station and look package but with this new update after i scan the leaks and talk to boron it doesnt do anything, what am i doing wrong pleas help
Hi I am having trouble with this part of the game I get to the gate and go through but nothing happens after that. It has worked once or twice in other game starts but I have tried a few times now with no joy I am using mods but I don't think they are causing any problems. I have re-downloaded the game, checked all the files and don't seem to have any issues with the mods used I was thinking do I need to visit the station before I continue to the gate or does it make a difference in the order I do the missions in
I always flew through the gate and then the story guides you to the derelict vessel. Never tried it with any mods activated - so you might check just to make sure nothing interferes no matter how far fetched the assumption may seem to be.
@@WatchMysh Hi I just tried that with no mods just the DLC's still got the same problem I verified the the files its says they are ok but I decided to do a re-install. I don't think its was a mod problem as it should have worked with just the DLC's so it must be a problem there. I give up for now lol I was planning on chilling out not stressed out lol cheers for replying
@@WatchMysh Hi mate just thought I would mention I solved the problem, I did the clean re-install added the mods still had the same problem, I saved just after the station appeared and re-loaded about 3 times still had the same problems and there where more ships in the sector than usual I asked a builder ship (Boron) the way to a rep and went right into the shipyard but still nothing was happening I started my way back to the waypoint (gate) from the mission when I clicked on the WAYFINDER and docked with him I went and spoke to the leader and it kicked off the mission so everything is working. I thought I would let you know just incase someone else is having the same issue as all the videos I have seen you find the ship (miner) when you do a scan and none where you dock with the ship like I did to get the mission started. I did 3 re-installs to find that out lol
Forgot the Steam link, here it is: store.steampowered.com/app/1990040/X4_Kingdom_End/ - the whole X4 series is on sale right now
how does this game compare with Star Citizen?
@@vadimnimarov8796 it does not, X4 is single player, more expensive, supports Steam workshop
@@vadimnimarov8796 x4 released
The best praise I ever heard fro X4 was from a friend who thought it was a MMO after playing it for six months
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Good overview with no spoilers... thanks
You're welcome :) Tried to keep them at a minimum.
The song that is playing in the background of the video is a re-imagining of the Kingdom End theme from X3.
Yep. It's great :)
Still gonna miss the old big green Boron ships.
The game is now phenomenal..I am blown away by it!
Is it the DLC or 6.0 that made it phenomenal for you?
@@HiLoMusic It's a combination between the great improvements brought upon by the 6.0 update and the Boron species and ships.. I'm a sucker for organic, high-tech ships.
the ships are phenomenal
Absolutely
the hydra looks like a wraith cruiser from Stargate Atlantis
The only thing for me missing in this fantastic game is still the possibility to talk more to NPCs. It feels so amazing having a wingman, but a little bit of chatting with them would be nice. It feels so cold. But i know this game is more for Excel fans and strategy fans. Its not an RPG and will never be. But i agree with you. It's a great game.
We just need a savvy modder to build some AI text-speech into the game and we're set. Just like we see in Spacebourne 2 right now.
Would love to enter my ship and see the pilot leaning on a handrail and say "Ready whenever you are" while moving to get back in their seat, or a weapons specialist suggesting you upgrade your lower class weapons seeing as you have the credits and are in a system with a weapons store.
true, they could add some gpt3.5 to the AIs for player with api keys
What you're looking for is No Man's Sky
@@davidpt Nobody's looking at No Man's Sky because the gameplay is the total opposite of X4 : utterly shallow.
Fantastic ship design. Giant leap from green potatoes of X3 to truly ocean creatures
"Green potatoes" lol
I love this game so much! They made my most beloved faction finally into the game and I was not disappointed!
Same. The Boron always were my favourite faction.
Over 1,400 hours in this game and I am nowhere near done!
I'll be playing this in 5-6 years when X5 releases (hopefully).
I LOVE this game.
Favorite fighter: Mamba
Favorite Weapon: Blast Mortar/Beam Laser
I just read "14,000" and was like "wtf that's some commitment" lol...
Love Kingdom End's ambiance, always have, followed by Seizewell, relaxing and satisfying, I had my HQ in Kingdom end last time I played X series, it was X2 a while back
In terms of what is next, my wish list is a bit extensive, but I hope to see them,
1) A storyline primarily focused on the player establishing a Corporation, and the reactions of various nations depending on where you establish your HQ, and what you chose for your Corporation to specialize in.
And example would be if you decide to focus on Terraforming (and this would be an excellent time to expand the Terraforming options to include Split and Boron space) then the Argon/Antigone would try to cozy up to you to make more of their planets habitable, the Teladi would seek to become your exclusive suppliers, Split would react with aggression to steal resources from you, the Terrans would be indifferent, and the Boron would send scientists and support personnel to study under you.
Choose to specialize in ship construction, Factions would jocky to have you establish your primary shipyards in their space, but woe to your company if you decide to establish a Shipyard in an opposing faction.
So on and so on.
2) More fluid AI diplomacy, not quite to the point of declaring outright war on each other, but more border skirmishes, trade wars, and temporary hostilities.
Example, the Teladi would try to avoid declaring all out war on the Argon, but they sure would hire pirates and privateers to decrease the Argon's supply/market share of say Graphene, so Teladi sellers make more profitssssss. In the reverse, the Argon would restrict Teladi shipments if they found out they where selling to the Holy Order of Ponifex, and seek to blockade their shipments, to which the Teladi would respond with escorted Blockade runners.
Just that slight extra resource drain, and adding a bit more life and flexibility to the universe.
3) An expansion to the base factions to include a few extra ship classes, full fledged Battleships are one class the factions need (Or an equivalent, Split would likely make fast battle cruisers with lots of weapons but mediocre defenses, the Boron would make a fully fledged supercarrier, Argon would likely make a command style Battleship focused around turrets and Heavy Shields, the Holy Order would make a ship centered around a high range, high alpha damage missile battery, while the Godrealm would focus on a huge mass driver not too dissimilar to to Terran mega laser, the Teladi would embrace their inner capitalist and either make a true super freighter, or more likely, a Mobile trade station based on a super carrier esq design) Another idea would be a "Mining Carrier" basically an XL carrier with say 4 small ship docks with storage for 4 more ships, and 2 M class docks, but a butt load of solid/liquid storage, and it would depend on small and medium class ships to mine for it.
4) an expansion to minor factions and guilds, IE Teladi/Antigone trade guilds, an actual Hatickva expansion, an Ministry of Finance storyline (hell just a Teladi storyline period would be nice).
5) A Kha'ak expansion, they don't need a rework, but with a bigger focus on the Kha'ak as an antagonist in Kingdom's End, a storyline that involves trying to figure them out would be welcome, doesn't have to be a full communications establishment, but just SOMETHING about why the Kha'ak are the way they are.
I have more, but this is already a long post, but the general ideas are there. They have already made clear they aren't adding more sectors, so I feel a focus on the smaller powers, as well as introducing more smaller powers that are more flexible in how they act in the game, for or against the player and larger powers, would add more life to the game.
I've just bought X4 and I'm looking forward to finishing the tutorials and getting into the game. I'm really impressed by how sleek everything looks, and the scope of the game is spectacular.
Have fun! :) I'm just finishing another tutorial video about station building. :)
@@WatchMysh I'll check it out! Could use all the help I can get I think!
How is it going? How is that space empire?
@@planexshifter I've sort of become a military industrial complex... alot of fun but I'm not at the empire stage. To be honest I've not played the game in a while, not because I'm not enjoying it anymore but because there's been so many good releases this year.
It just took some time. Now X4 is about as big as X3, as people were complaining about missing stuff when the game was still churning out DLC.
Just got the game, partially thnx to you. Boron ships look so sexy. Watched the 4 part newbie tips videos too - top tier stuff, great channel.
Wow thanks for the appreciation! :) Boron ships are officially goated
The new menu theme is incredible. It makes me feel stuff man...
Right? I thought it was just me
This was a review well structured, well written, and informative. Looking forward to more X4 content. Subscribed.
Next up is "how to X4" as a basic guide. But beyond that I'm not so sure what I could make. What kind of X4 content would you like to watch? :)
@@WatchMysh Hey there, thanks for the reply. I understand the basics about flying, making missions, assigning mining ships automatically etc., but I am overwhelmed by the possibilities of the economical part of the game. E.g. I want to build a station, but I just don't know where to start.
I know there are plenty of "how to make money fast" type of guides out there, but that is not what I am looking for, because this would kinda spoil my experience. I want to figure things out for myself, make mistakes and learn from them. I just don't know how to begin with anything in that matter. I'm not looking for a walkthrough (and other videos feel just like that), more of a "hint" or a guidance how to get into the economy of X4.
That said, I am looking forward to any content of yours, even if it's not covering my needs and wishes for this game. :)
@@Spooky_Sunday Thanks for this thorough, helpful and nice reply. :)
Kingdom End soundtrack was my absolute favorite in X3 and it still is, however I don't dislike this one.
This Music is from X3:Reunion. Can´t count how many hours i was sitting in their home sector, listening to this track and activate sinza (turbo mode, don´t know the english name for it ^^) while my traders earn tons of money.
Compared to the older X games, making money in X4 might be a bit easy, but i play it since releaseday and i liked it from the go...even with these bugs and so on. Today, with version 6.0, they really put very hard work into it and it is even better than before. Its worth every minute you play it, but that is just my opinion 🙂
Very nice review. Calm and informative. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Haven't played in years .. I must go back for a look always loved the look of the boron in x3 and TC
The nostalgia from the Kingdom End music was a little overwhelming. I remember the first time i entered KE in TC and i was blown away by the music.
The ships are awesome too! The shark in particular looks really menacing and powerful now!
Looks superb!
BUY IT ! Thats it. It is at sale atm, with all DLCs
Amazing ships, I might try this game one day.
X4 is worth the time and moneys
The game has been sitting on my steam account since its early days untouched. I gave it 30 minutes and the control mappings were so odd I put it down. I keep saying I need to get in so I'm looking forward to your how to video
Kingdom End is amazing. Transport and Mining ships from Boron are now easily the best for pretty much all cases. Good capacity, good speed, and boron engines have no travel drive spin-up time.
Hydra is an amzing player ship, and it's very fast.
Started a new campaign and didn't work my way to Ray/Guppy and above yet, but from the stats they also look really good.
The high speed of the boron ships is extremely valuable in a game without the super highway (which I'm currently playing).
Yes, please, teach me how to X4. I've had this game in my lib since it launched as it was a big deal in the german speaking cons I went to. Got in and was instantly turned off. I like playing sim games but damn X4 has so much stuff that it's hard to get into without someone to help you get your bearings.
To be honest, I'm a bit in the same boat even though I played the shit out of X2 and X3 as a teenager. Maybe it's because I'm older now and I don't have the time to really take a deep dive into it?
Maybe for you it would be a good idea to get a copy of X3: Terran Conflict or Albion Prelude and play with those to get at least a grasp on the basic design principles of an X game? Trading feels a tad more simple there and easier to get into. Admittedly, my own first dive was X2 with my computer covered in post it notes where I kept track of the prices I was seeing for different goods to get more of a feel when trading is profitable and when it is not.
@@dschehutinefer5627 thanks for your recommendation. I'll have a look.
Well. Honestly just figure out your goal in game. Mines was to start off hunting pirates and taking their ships selling them to buy mining ships. Mine to fund my first station for income. Buy more ships for mining. Do some missions join a faction. Fight some xenon BUY more ships. Smuggle drugs for income. Eclipse vanguard heavy Fighter still my favorite small ship. After getting about 10 of these adding beams and bolts. I make a small fleet of the same eclipses with torpedoes and tracking missiles. Sooner or later late game pirates show up with these behemoths that you can steal which will give you your first L ship. From there it's rinse and repeat until you unlock your base then do research. I enjoy watching wars happen and picking up all the loot. End game goal was to make a ship factory to fund anyone's war. Yes... space capitalism is actually fun.. I guess the best part is when you finally get your xl ship and have 40 small ships and you undock them... it's like watching you bee swarm attack. 10/10. Do anything you want. I recommend turning kha'ak off ruins my game play completely.
@@teinkjr Or get the system explorer mod to better detect their stations. Then blow them up.
It took me 2 months of subconscious processing in the background without touching the game for it to "click" for me. Don't worry about trying to "win". Just go in and have fun, whether that is through trading, combat, mining, or exploring. Start over as many times as you need to until you get a good feel for things. It s easy to make money in this game once you get going, think a few hours. Missions can provide decent funds as well. Good luck!
Really good, spoiler free review. It definitely is worth the effort, however please remind people to save and save often.
Like all good things in Life, worth the wait
3:18 I know what you are saying here... but it made me take a pause for a second when I first heard it. : )
Lol
4:40 borron sectors always had best music. i always gladly visited kindoms end in x3. :)
Same. I totally love the music.
I bought it right away but have not yet jumped into the added content, I started a new playthrough a few weeks ago and am still getting my player base and terraforming setup sorted out... but the Boron ships look AMAZING... def. looking forward to jumping into it.
i wish this would have a multiplayer
I hope its successor will not become an MMORPG. Multiplayer with friends on a limited server with max 64 players would be enough.
I hope they complete the sector information and the weapon information， in the old days I played X3 I can read the in game Wikipedia for all day. the stories are so detailed that I feel it really happened in that universe
i wish elite dangerous and X4 were one game. with stargates scattered across habitable worlds.
I havent played x4 in years. I just picked it back up
Best time to play X4 :)
Honestly, the very first Paranid capital ships compared to these boron capital ships, looks like a completely different game.
The original paranid capital ships looks VERY bad, and these boron ships looks amazing.
Absolutely :D
I had already started replacing my entire fleet with Boron ships, for sure the best looking ships in the game right now. X Universe is finally whole again (minus some hundred systems that are still missing xd)
have subbed and pressed the bell hello from Scotland
This seems so hard to get into. Looks amazing tho.
"How to X4" already on the way :)
It is finally where it should have been at release. But well. At least now i can finally enjoy it :)
Music LOVE!
There's one thing about the X games that always kinda put me off: no alien languages. When talking to aliens you can just make up the classic universal translator, but when it comes to ship names and name tags and the like, I'd love to not have names like "Shark" or "Barracuda" because, well, that's Earth creatures.
I always think of it like "NATO designations" like Foxhound for the Mig-31 and so on. So in my head the Boron have their own names and we just call them Shark and Guppy.
wait is there really 100 sectors? i'd never even realised that, wow.
I think the original game had around 60-70 sectors. With all the DLC we're now at 100+. I didn't bother to count precisely.
160 sectors... ~
Borons aint my cake for performance but MAN do they look nice.
I'm glad they stopped adding new sectors. Around 100 sectors sounds big enough. X3 with its around 230 sector size was too big in my opinion.
I hope they can keep improving on quality of life stuff and especially the AI piloting which leaves a lot to be desired sometimes.
Hope so, too
I wonder how well balanced these new ships and guns will be
Guns are okay-ish as far as I can tell so far. I'm testing around with S and M guns atm and can't find anything overpowered, yet. But I still have to do some tests on combinations. Phase guns do heavy hull damage for example. This in combination with like Argon Ion cannons could lead to some pretty nice results. We'll see. Thing is: the weapons aren't compatible. You can't put Boron ion rail guns on a Dragon Raider for example.
looks interesting,I've never heard about this game :P
it's a niche game. The reason being, it's not for people who want easy gameplay. This is micromanagement and space exploration at it's finest. Unfortunately the melonheads who made X-Rebirth were absolute morons and almost killed the franchise.
Yes, absolutely niche. But less than I thought. My revisited video blew up to 170k views which was completely unexpected.
@@WatchMysh The Space Sim market is bigger than the attention it gets from the publishing side of things. But the sub-genres suffer the most. Mass market gameplay in games such as Chorus and Everspace, to some degree Star Citizen, get the money but the detailed freelancer/elite type games are still considered in the realm of flight sim enthusiast markets. The kind of games that people wouldn't buy without a HOTAS. But this is one exception for me. I think it's sandbox is perfect for people who want to slowplay a game over weeks/months. Not fast food gaming however.
Wish I could dive into this game but I just don't have the time to soak in all of its systems and mechanics.
Ok. I guess it's time to try this game... overwhelming to say the least but I'll manage.
Check out my tutorials. If you like what you see there, give it a chance. :)
@@WatchMysh will do!
Boron ships... if the Shadows and Vorlons had a baby...
Did they ever fix the problem the game used to have where NPCs working for you stopped functioning if you were close enough to see them? (So you could never see your minions going about their tasks?)
Great videos! Really hoping I can check this out again soon, as that one issue was really what was holding me back. :)
Thanks :)
Which NPCs do you mean exactly? The people on stations/ships or... your ships doing stuff?
@@WatchMysh Thanks for the quick reply! NPCs doing stuff, iirc. When I was first trying to get into it I started running into lots of reports of NPCs not being able to simulate if you were in proximity to them, so you had to make sure you were always somewhere away from your workers to make sure they carried out their orders effectively.
@@FowaDeLuz that's never been a problem for me since... 2019? So I guess it got fixed. :)
@@WatchMysh Woot!! Thanks! 😁😁
@@FowaDeLuz Just to make sure: Right now I'm sitting in Nopileos on one of my five stations there and I watch my like 30 miners and 10 traders doing what I told them to to - or what the station managers told them. No need to leave the system.
What about the game starts? It looks like you need to discover the Borons first as a prior faction, but if you start as a Boron? Is the connection already there? Or do you have a second story for that to create the connection?
Afaik the connection is already there and you start as the Queen's emissary. Can't check right now. Will make sure later.
Thanks very much, great video! If you are someone who does enjoy space combat and upgrading ships ala "Elite Dangerous" is that to be found here? How is the combat system?
It's not a combat game as such. You can have a lot of fighting if you want, but the game is a sandbox simulation, so you will often be either outgunned or outgun. Choose your fights, so to speak.
Ship upgrade is that ships can have several level of equipment (mostly 3 for smaller ones) and more or less free weapon choice (can't put a torpedo launcher on a scout).
You can also put mods on your ship - you have to gather the parts for that though.
But honestly, just get the base game if you are unsure as it's on sale and play a while. The game is hard to get into because it's so big, but if you still have fun after 3 days, get the expansions (and maybe start a new one with what you have learned).
If you like Elite you have to get this too, even if in the end you think it's not your line because it's too much economy.
(btw. spoiler: getting the player HQ pays off in getting mods and teleport ability)
@steem lenn Thank you for your informative post! Really appreciate you taking the time. Great info, exactly what I was curious about. Cheers!
@@steemlenn8797 Great response!
Could you imagine if this game ran more on the gpu then cpu its smooth but when big battle fps still tanks even with a beefy pc. but how about if it also ran on unreal engine 5
just starting this game now, most difficult i find is the mouse & keyboard controls :(
Check out my beginner tutorial :)
I can't play any space game without vr. Would be great if the game would support vr.
But did they fix the AI though? Pretty much the only thing keeping me from returning to this game is the frustration of actually trying to run an empire.
my man, this check engine light makes me nervous xD
Thanks for that video.
It is possible to find borons with a previous save? I'm a terran, and don't want to restart as a Boron for now
Yes. No need to restart.
one thing about this game i cant get over is being attached to a wheelchair for eva wheen its supposed to be far in the future.. they have to get rid of that mechanic lol
Lol... Yes!
I will get it on gog!
What is that song? Great video !
It's from the Kingdom End soundtrack. :) Thanks!
The original games music is still best
I still dream of it sometimes at night
idk why I bought this game while having gtx1050 I havent started it yet and I guess I wont till I have a new laptop and who knows when will I get it,but it looks cool af
Give it a try. It's more cpu reliant than GPU. :)
@@WatchMysh I have i5 9300h,fo u think it is fine
@@naioziren6831 Hard to say... 4c8t should be enough, though. Guess you just have to try. I'd expect like 20-40 fps depending on the situation in 1080p medium to low.
@@WatchMysh thanks
Complete? Not yet, the studio director Bernt is talking about the next big patch version 7.00.....EDIT: And the first 7.00 beta is out.
Yes, of course. What I meant was that all the factions are now integrated. Complete doesn't mean development stops.
Reviews on Steam are abysmal... almost 2/3 negative. Wanted to buy the whole bundle, but now I'm bewildered.
I get "mostly positive" for X4 and "mostly positive" for Kingdom End. But KE got some very bad reviews recently. Some people have the opinion that the DLC is not good enough / not living up to their expectations. Well... X always divided people. Everyone wants other things improved because of vastly different play styles. Some are complaining about "hard quests". The X series never held your hand so I personally don't expect a lot of guidance. Could put you off if you're not familiar with the series.
If you ask me personally: compared to one horrible mission with a switch puzzle in the Terran DLC, the KE quests are straightforward and easy to play.
If you're unsure, just get the base game on sale and give it a try. Most of the mechanics and all the improvements are included there. DLCs only (mostly) expand the universe/factions.
@@WatchMysh I meant KE only. Thanks for your opinion and advice!
Ähhh... wenn Deutsche sich im Ausland oder Internet treffen... Danke!
@@TakaD20 lol gern geschehen
is it possible to randomize the sector aswell as the derelict locations? I always enjoyed finding abandoned ships in space and even better with a random sector like in starsector
Great CPU guy!
That’s the older kingdom end/ boron music dude, guess never played TC 😅😂
Good review though
TC was great. And thanks, always giving my best. :) Music is taken straight from the Kingdom End soundtrack.
I wish they had a free weekend.
Strange they had to update the engine to support two features that have been standard for 10+ years.
Yes. But easily explained: it's their own engine and they are just 30 people in the team.
@@WatchMysh that's not a lot of people, but I guess in this case all they really need is a couple of modellers and artists, 2-4 programmers, project managers and a team lead. I wish they would use Unreal Engine though so I could go work with them. I could make the game shine.
@@tehf00n unreal engine doesn't do anything they need, would add difficulty to make needed changes, stop them from doing core changes, and even make them lose profit
@@jh5kl dont talk shit to me mate. I'm a 13 year Unreal Engine veteran and nothing they did in this game is special. I could replicate all of it better and make it multiplayer at the same time. Not to mention increase the size of the universe to 88million KM. I could also improve the graphics, have a better system of patching, and countless other things.
So don't tell me about what Unreal can do you uninformed mitrochondrial peon.
Best developers
great. so what we use to pay 50 quid for is now like 100+ quid.
Hey could you Maka a preview of the x4 Future ?
I'd love to. But there's no information available at the moment. All we know is that "they are not done" and will continue to work on the game. But I'll see if I can dig out more. :) Thanks for the comment!
@@WatchMysh ok a Friend told me that they don’t want to add new sectors or factions with the next dlc but improve the current structure but I found nothing to prove this claim …
Thanks for the video!! X is a Great universe and your video showed the improvements they made!
@@icehelion9788 I can't remember where I heard it from... but yes: I remember something similar. Maybe from an Interview or so. But I'm not 100% sure. Well... I'll do some research and maybe I find someone who knows. :)
@@WatchMysh thanks in advance 😊
Will you make detailed analysis videos like jk ninja?
Not decided, yet. I'll with checking out what the guy you mentioned does :)
if they didn't fix the god awful AI or UI from X4, then I'm not interested.
Ngl saying that the vanilla OST of X4 is forgetable is a really bad take
Why? It's all down to taste. I couldn't remember one track after playing for 50 hours. It's not bad. Just nothing special in my books.
How's the performance is it better or worse?
Better in general. But we still have to see how it performs late game
Any improvement on the performance? I tried this game back with my 1080ti and it was terrible
Yes. But the 1080ti should be able to handle the game on 1080/1440. The CPU is more of an issue.
did they fix how NPC look?
No lol they still look weird and creepy
Now if only if the game would run more on gpu.
Something we all wish for
Can you completely annihilate the Boron vermin in the game?
You can annihilate everyone and everything
@@WatchMysh Like I don't want to come across them ever again.
@@JAnx01 Yes. Afaik you can destroy every single station on the map and take over all their sectors. I never tried anything like that but technically it should be possible.
Can you play effectively without ever flying first person combat? (Stay in RTS mode)
I guess after you've earned some money that's possible. Maybe even from the start? Haven't tried. The game tends to shift to be played from the map around mid game anyways for most people.
I have X4, had it a long time but sadly I've put no time into it because I really dislike the UI, it's not user friendly at all, quite the opposite, so I find myself going back to X2 when I want a game. shame really
did they fix the fleet?
Can you specifically articulate what needed fixing?
@@michaelbennett7561 When i build a fleet, the ships don't go at the same speed. Some ships arrive early, some may not
X4 has heavy system requirements and a lot of people even with high end computers still have issues with that game. Get X2 or X3 the 4th isn't that different from second or third game. Think about how much ram your pc has and memory because otherwise you won't be able to run it (Vram). X4 is boring very slow basically a Sci Fi ship simulator with stupid hard controls.
Yes. Just the latests CPUs starting from the 5800X3D and 12th gen Intel are doing an adequate job in late game. But X4 is massively different under the hood from X4. There's no AI cheating anymore. Only the factions have infinite money so they can't go bankrupt. Everything else is completely simulated.
You're not so dependent on VRAM. X4 is rather modest on the GPU side if you don't use volumetric fog or complex shadows. You'd rather have a fast CPU with high single core performance / IPC and 32GB of RAM along with a fast SSD.
You can speed up the game by a) knowing how to earn money quickly and b) construct a SETA drive which enables x5 time acceleration.
If you find it to be boring, that's okay. Maybe try Everspace 2 then, great game. In my books X4 is one oft the most fun and not-boring games ever. But everyone is different. :)
When we will see the VR mode?
I guess never
@@WatchMysh What is the reason?? VR will be cool.
@@alextopman5977 The engine and the game itself. I can't get constant 60fps in midgame even with my rig (3090/5800X3D/48GB). So unless performance increase a lot we can't power VR headsets with 90fps+ on both eyes.
@@WatchMysh You don't need a stable 60 fps because reprojections work in VR. With them, it is enough to have only half of the target value. ED quite enough 60 fps to play well (only 30 from PC).
@@alextopman5977 doesn't work for everyone. I'm really sensitive when it comes to frame rates. In VR I need 90fps stable without reprojection or I'll puke after 30 minutes max. That's why I couldn't play DCS/IL2 in VR until I got my new rig.
Your x4 videos do much better than your tech videos which I and many others dont watch so why not continue x4?
I will with the new dlc. :) Thing is though: watch time reduces significantly over the X4 series while the production effort is high. "how to X4" speaks to a lot of people but the other more specific videos don't attract many.
So... it's not that I don't want to make X4 videos. I just think there aren't a lot of topics you guys would watch.
@@WatchMysh makes sense, guides and reviews always do well. There is another youtuber that made a 100 hour of x4 video like those styled 100 days in "survival game" challenges and it ended very well in views :) another thing is maybe check out similar games like starsector, or maybe even the beast that is eve online ;) videos on niche space games seem to do good since there is quite a bit of demand but no supply here on UA-cam for it. As for production cost (time and effort) I do think reviews and guides take more time than a 100 hour or gameplay video as editing in the guides and reviews are much more than a mostly gameplay video where you just need to cut together footage with minor voice overs after recording to tie it all together.
This is my commenting channel btw I do UA-cam on another channel that is actually my full time job currently so I'm happy to give the advice:)
@@umadbroimatroll7918 I'll get back to you later :)
@@umadbroimatroll7918 Alright ... now I've got some free time ... Thanks for your input! You're a full time youtuber? That's awesome. Care to share your channel? You can also send it to my contact mail if you don't want to share it here. :) I've been pondering about what kind of content to make besides tutorials and tech. Next up is a video about an old space game I think would be worth getting a remake. And my War Thunder Tutorial just hit 1 Million views - so I though about making a video called "how to make a 1 million views gaming tutorial" where I share how I produce my stuff. These kinds of videos are known to be able to skyrocket - what do you think?
And thanks for the idea to make videos about niche space games. How did you get the impression there's a not enough supply on this topic on youtube? I got the opposite impression like everyone is doing niche space game videos ... lol :)
@@WatchMysh war thunder is a good one, lots of people making content for it but if you already have a leg in with your video it's more likely to recommend a new war thunder video to people that saw your other videos. I'll get into contact on email with you for discord, and yeah making videos on how to make videos and get views always seem to do good, but I'd recommend only do it sparingly as channels that focus on that are seen as not genuine.
As for the space game niche is just that the number of content creators for games eve online, star sector, x4, old games like freelancer, etc. You can count on one hand the number that actually edit thier videos properly and so dont reach the full view potential, even unedited videos end up with 10k due to people playing those games not having other options for better content.
Of course it's all speculation when taking the UA-cam algorithm into account but the more research and effort you put in, the more you will overtime learn the algorithm :)
Position defence was already in the game...
From the Patch notes:
"The new Position Defence feature in Update 6.00 allows players to have a single carrier-led fleet defend multiple locations"
ah an excel game...
A fun game of numbers and gates spewing Xenon doom :)
so did they change how the main mission for boron start in young gun story, i scanned the station of leak, before it told me to go back on station and look package but with this new update after i scan the leaks and talk to boron it doesnt do anything, what am i doing wrong pleas help
Do you have Kingdom End?
Yeah I have the dlc so what do I do
Hi I am having trouble with this part of the game I get to the gate and go through but nothing happens after that. It has worked once or twice in other game starts but I have tried a few times now with no joy I am using mods but I don't think they are causing any problems. I have re-downloaded the game, checked all the files and don't seem to have any issues with the mods used I was thinking do I need to visit the station before I continue to the gate or does it make a difference in the order I do the missions in
I always flew through the gate and then the story guides you to the derelict vessel. Never tried it with any mods activated - so you might check just to make sure nothing interferes no matter how far fetched the assumption may seem to be.
@@WatchMysh Hi I just tried that with no mods just the DLC's still got the same problem I verified the the files its says they are ok but I decided to do a re-install. I don't think its was a mod problem as it should have worked with just the DLC's so it must be a problem there. I give up for now lol I was planning on chilling out not stressed out lol cheers for replying
@@WatchMysh Hi mate just thought I would mention I solved the problem, I did the clean re-install added the mods still had the same problem, I saved just after the station appeared and re-loaded about 3 times still had the same problems and there where more ships in the sector than usual I asked a builder ship (Boron) the way to a rep and went right into the shipyard but still nothing was happening I started my way back to the waypoint (gate) from the mission when I clicked on the WAYFINDER and docked with him I went and spoke to the leader and it kicked off the mission so everything is working. I thought I would let you know just incase someone else is having the same issue as all the videos I have seen you find the ship (miner) when you do a scan and none where you dock with the ship like I did to get the mission started. I did 3 re-installs to find that out lol
@@cornwallfalcon lol. Good you solved it and thanks for taking the time to let us know! :)
Fps still not so great ?
Is capital ship explosion still look like crap compared to X:Rebirth? That thing made caps battle bland.
Smaller booms, then big boom with shockwave, wreck drifts.