X6100 Wifi Discovered!
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
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Glad you've had some measure of success in accessing wifi and Bluetooth. I enjoy watching your videos as you explore possibilities with this radio. 73s De N7MRF.
Thanks Vaun!
Your patience in working with this is amazing. When I have to run *Linux, I'm so used to it just working. With the X6100 doing what you were doing would drive me crazy. Thanks for the info and videos.
I'm not expecting it to be 100% polished, so that's a good starting point.
I think it’s amazing what you have been able to figure and configure on this radio. For the non tech’s like myself. ….was the 6100 ready for the general public as a workable, “as advertised” radio? I’m thinking I may have misunderstood something. Is this radio more for people who have the ability to problem solve and make software configuration adjustments? I’m kind of kidding, but at this point, not so much. Iv’e been enjoying your channel (even if I don’t understand all of it) and appreciate your abilities. 73 Dave - KD2LMR
Not ready as released. I wasn't happy when wifi and Bluetooth didn't work out of the box
@@temporarilyoffline Same...Do you think they'll release some patch?
@@mickgatz214 they have released a TON of patches for this radio in the last 2 years. The biggest problem with WiFi/BT is that the case is all metal and inside they are using ceramic antennas. No amount of software is going to make that work well. The new model has plastic end caps and so far the wifi has been good.
@@temporarilyoffline Thanku for prompt reply. I am just watching Josh do something via the USB, yup, i'm learning...slowly. :)
@@temporarilyoffline Ham Radio Crash Course, Josh....
Yup...spent all night trying to figure that out, but to no avail....
You've just demonstrated that with your awesome skills/video. Thanx.
Oh well, it just stays in it's box for SHTF day. 👍
This radio is a lot of fun to play with - platform for software tinkering... as a basic QRP field radio, it works really well with its large screen/waterfall, built in tuner and 10w on battery power. I've used it quite a bit in the last 2 years.
All that being said, its not 'the best' at anything in particular. A very weird device.
Love the stuff you're doing my friend. Hey, is that an old commodore computer that you have sitting in your room?
Sure is! I have a retro-tech channel where I repair/explore old tech: ua-cam.com/users/TemporarilyOfflineRetroTech I'm currently building a ZX-81
Ha! I had one of those Timex Sinclair computers, cool stuff!
Of course that was over 30 years ago!
I used to have a TS1000 on the shelf for a while. Not sure where it is now.
@@temporarilyoffline did you ever have a TRS-80? Now I'm digging back with that one! 🤓
Good video. I've subscribed to your channel. Linux login to a radio via RPI, I'm hooked! It raised the question, is similar access possible with my Xiegu G90? and then the logical follow-on, if so,then what customizations could I do to my G90.
There are a few github repos geared towards hacking the G90, but I don't have a G90 to play with.
@@temporarilyoffline This radio is the color gsoc bound to g90 boards, and would be a backtrack to get it, besides it's few extra watts. I am not seeing the mic hole on the front of it like the x5105's that mfj scooped up.
The eventual solution they provided was to use a BT usb adapter with the GSOC. Congrates on what you have done here.
I'm just getting warmed up!
Thanks Steve, great video!
The builtin antenna works OK with my router which locates in the same room of my radio.
I got (external 13.1v battery):
Bit Rate=6.5 Mb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm
Retry short limit:7 RTS thr=2347 B Fragment thr:off
Encryption key:off
Power Management:off
Link Quality=48/70 Signal level=-62 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:51 Missed beacon:0
Very good. I think my wifi is on the opposite side of the radio... and the house.
Assuming availability of internal connectors. I'm thinking machined slots in the case, with a matching 3D printed plug. Then you could place wifi/bluetooth antennas there. Something like "Internal Laptop NGFF M.2 MHF4 Wireless WiFi Bluetooth Antenna Copper Plate" Very similar to what I've seen in tablets and tiny PCs. 72 K0EMT
On the left side of the radio, right below the HF antenna you'll find a black sticker. Behind that sticker are your WiFI/BT antennas
Is the Bluetooth/wifi a single board that you can change easily? If so just run external antennas..... wish mine was here. This looks like FUN! Have you run it out of the box? Great work man!
I need to open it up... might do that in a bit. Stay tuned.
@@temporarilyoffline Awesome!
Thanks for the great analysis, even if I don't think the Chinese wanted this, but this is finally a real SDR device that we as Hams can finally take control of. I'm curious when the first add-ons will be available or when the corresponding SDR software has been adapted. DL2KTH
We are getting there. We've got increased power out and open transmit... lots more to come.
Might be worth putting the wifi radio into AP mode and hosting a network from the radio instead of trying to connect to one, that would hopefully get over the strength issues given that you'd be closer. I haven't read the spec so I don't know for certain but I think wifi has a higher output power than Bluetooth so it might be able to "defeat" the faraday cadge effect slightly better at close range.
Could be. I don't think it would be hard to mount a better antenna on it.
The -66 to -63 dB RSSI shown before and after going to "shore power" should have been (just) adequate for a Wifi connection. I'd lean toward power being the issue.
But speaking of power... I'd not be surprised if Wi-Fi and Bluetooth connections would glitch out when actually transmitting - like a ham - from the radio. They *could* have designed and built it to avoid cross-interference, but I wouldn't count on it.
I agree completely. I don't think they were isolated at all.
Great progress Steve
Slowly but surely. Now that I've got it opened up, we can test out the antennas and make it better.
"screw it. Ship it."
Somebody got a Shippy Award!
Thanks again for these X6100 videos
No problem
Thank you !
You're welcome!
Do NOT tell Steve it can't be done...
Right!
Steve, have you slept and eaten yet? You guys on TOADS are insane with the amount you've done on this radio in such a short time.
Slept? I'm on the x6100 diet
Who ever setup the password for that radio must be a Space Balls fan. 😂
exactly!
@@temporarilyoffline I guess I better change the combination on my luggage. 😂
Clever and interesting.
It can only get better!
This would make a great adventure game. Solve the 6100x puzzle
It is an adventure!
Steve ... you didn't happen to remove the end plates and test to see what the ping times were then did you? Nice job by-the-way Sir! 73, KF6IF
I will, the wifi antennas are right next to the end plates
Curious, could you rig a wifi dongle to connect thru one of the USB-C ports?
Via powered hub and new Linux kernel, yes.
Keep up the fantastic work!
Thanks, will do!
Excellent
Thank you! Cheers!
Congrats!!
Thanks!
Keep up the good work! Wish I had one. Would love to rip it apart and mod it.
I got you covered, check out my teardown video
Interesting you had so much problem pulling an address. I haven't seen that happening here at all, however - the onboard wifi gets a little pissy with me if I ping flood it, or nmap it. Normal terminal stuff works fine though. Also, FWIW, I was on power when this happens. I haven't really got jazzy with it on battery.
I'm pretty sure it was interference from my LED lights... but either way, its not very reliable, even after moving the RF cable.
OMG! Mine's going back!
If you're a linux hacker, hold on to yours. This is just starting to get fun. If you want to just go portable... there are better radios.
On mine, it shows a phantom signal on the left and right sides of the waterfall when WiFi is enabled. Strange.
It shouldn't be there, but it is a thing on this radio. Your's does it all the time when you turn wifi on and it goes away when you turn wifi off?
@@temporarilyoffline correct, the moment I disable Wifi, the waterfall clears. Yeah, talk about bugs hehe
@@LevyCarneiro maybe that's why I don't see it except rarely. I don't run wifi because I can't keep a connection
I'm on the latest firmware now and wifi is working (for the moment, no long term beliefs on this one🙂) - zero birdies on the waterfall with wifi on or off. (Just finally had a chance to get this radio on the bench again!)
I thought this was about the X6100 - I have no idea what this "Propeller-head" is talking about!
Well, they can't all be on topic
Wouldn't be the com-port speed 115k2 rather than 19k2?
There are two "serial ports" inside the unit cat is 19200, serial console is 115200
Would it be possible to connect a USB WiFi dingle?
Yes, you can connect a dongle if you load the right drivers on the machine
@@temporarilyoffline I was just about to ask that question 🙋♂️...I think that’s great that’ll do me if I can load the drivers sharp learning curve but great fun amazing it’s great that you’ve turned this purchase into a very positive thing who needs it working out of the box when you have Linux plus I got a free watch too 👍😀... interesting channel thank you for sharing.
Hello!.
Can you make a connector in the case for an external wifi/Bluetooth antenna!.🤔
I think so
@@temporarilyoffline Thanks!. I think that will solve the shielding issue.
looking at the backside of the radio, a hole about 7cm long should do the trick. Except now the battery might ... The cells dont touch the case and they are in series. This could open a window for both wifi and bluetooth. Anything longer than 2.4 GHz this would keep the Faraday Cage intact. Big Tankyou to all you hackers. 73 Peter DL2FBA
I found in the teardown video there is a slot on the left side they covered with a sticker that exposes the (really bad) wifi antennas, lots of room for us to make it better
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