At last: Affordable, yet truly audiophile in-ear headphones
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- It's the Creative Aurvana Trio, read my review here, www.cnet.com/n... If you enjoy these daily videos please consider a $1 or $2 pledge here, / audiophiliac
Long live the 3.5 mm headphone jack!
Thumbs up for affordable high quality audio!
Thanks Steve!
Ordered from Amazon [
When I read affordable I really did not expect 150$
C He affordable AUDIOPHILE earbuds lol. Not just affordable in general, affordable for the category
@@tryeasy1634 My sides.
yep, not even close to.be affordable
I am only interested in Wired headphones. This whole wireless thing does not appeal to me.
@@endexo that is true but bluetooth tend to last longer. Especially when it comes to earbuds
Thank you for sharing. Like yo I'm only interested in horses and not these smelly horseless carriages and what was wrong with gas lamps as opposed to wired electric light contraptions.
@@neuromantoo You're right. But I just can't convince my self its a good a idea to have two high powered radio transcievers parked on either side of my brain for long periods. Call me a luddite.
@@endexo Dont forget much less radiation output between your brain
Same
They seem really good, but Canadian pricing for them on Amazon is $320, darn you Canadian pricing [shakes fist in air]
In other news, capitalism does work.
They are $150 cad now! (With $25 import fee) btw we cannot ship any lithium batteries to Canada at all from Amazon
@@westsenkovec all three of those country's use capitalism
Just got these based on your recommendation and I love them! Thanks again, Steve.
Josh Wheeler how are they?
Wired headphones are still necessary for most mp3 players. And they do tend to be cheaper at times, as well as often giving better sound. They're not likely to disappear soon.
@ALM how old are you?
Steve .... many thanks for recommending these ... they are excellent .....
Finally really good review from somebody who knows something about sound. Thanks a lot. By the way do you have any bluetooth alternative to these headphones or 1MORE? thanks
Hey Steve, it would have been really great if you would have actually shown the headphones. Perhaps a glimpse of the tangle prone wire would have been nice. Granted, I realize your title does not specifically state "unboxing or review" but come on, they deserve some camera time. Just some constructive criticism.
I wish more brands would sell in-ears with MMCX connectors! So many of my in ears have died just due to a damaged cable... I think I might have to make these ones my next (and hopefully final) pair!
These are available on Amazon UK for £69 atm.
I've been a fan of Creative since buying my 1st pair of EP630 earphones some years ago. They too, were performing way above their price. Having now read a few reviews of these, I think I may have to treat myself, and soon.
Just got these today based on your review. They sound fantastic but the fit in your ears is very fatiguing and I don’t mean after a while, they fit sort of tight. I even changed the tips to the smallest but they still hurt my ear. They sound better at lower volumes instead of high too, I don’t go over 80%
Steve great job on both affordable gear, and earphones! Appreciate more earphone reviews please! Thank u sir!
Thank you Steve for your review! I just got the 1More for $50 - the sound is amazing, I can’t believe it! I tried finding other ones, but they are no longer available! Thank you so much again! Do you have a recommendation on Bluetooth in ear headphones? Thank you
I use skullcandy wired ones and they are pretty much perfect I love the shaping unlike cursed wireless ones
Just ordered Audeze isine 20’s on Father’s Day sale off their website. Still pricey, but a nice discount.
Excellent Steve - I might try and get some here in the UK. I can't wear the conventional over-the-head ones, apparently I have unusually pressure-sensitive areas around my jawbone and ear. Off to read your review on cnet now...
My LG V20 features the ESS ES9218 Quad DAC via the headphone jack. I hope they don't get rid of the little hole in the future. The phone also has a microSD card slot. It supports at least 256 GB, which is sufficient to contain a fair number of FLAC files. I hope they don't get rid of that either.
The Creative Aurvana Trio is 16 ohms. The minimum impedance to enable the audiophile DAC on the V20 is 50 ohms. I spent $150 on my Sennheiser HD 598SE headphones, which are 50 ohms. Arguably not high-end, they work for me. I made a custom filter in Neutron to flatten the response, but prefer listening without it. I know, crazy me!
BlankBrain first off, there's only one DAC inside the v20 with 4 delta sigma modulation lanes for better audio. Second, the dedicated DAC turns on whenever you turn it on. Anything above 50ohms only turns up the gain which equals more volume. More gain equals higher noise floor. Not a good thing for the audio quality.
You'll probably need more resolving gear to actually hear the difference between when the DAC is on/off and also to differentiate between flacs and good mp3s for that matter :)
I'm pretty sure the "good" DAC and amp are only turned on when ≥50Ω load is present. This is done to save power. The rest of the time, it uses the mini DAC. Unfortunately, you have to root your phone to play 16 bit FLAC files natively.
BlankBrain ok no 😂
Any phone can play 16/44.1 flac files natively. The dedicated DAC on whenever you see the icon. There's no power saving going on because the amp is literally too small to take in noticeably more power than the integrated DAC. 50ohms or greater only turns up the gain of the amp, which is not always a good thing.
I would really like to know if it's better than the 25 dollars linklike classic 2 that I own. They are dual drivers too (so 4 in total), and they sound amazing.
thanks again for affordability Steve
I'm not so sure that everyone will end up with wireless only. Lots of people still prefer a wired option. It's only a few of the very high end phones that have gotten rid of the 3.5mm jack
Velodynes you recommend back in the 404 show is 100 and still amazing
Good review. I have an android phone with Dolby Atmos, which I really like. Atmos has a virtualizer function, but it only works if the headphones are wired. Blue Tooth doesn't get it. I would hate to see the end of the headphone jack, perhaps there might be a USB to 3.5 adapter?
Have you tried Tin T3? Single BA/Hybrid but sounds so good with great price to match.
If you can do like an overall commentary with these now growing ChiFi IEM's
I agree about preferring cable down in ear headphones. Memory wire and around the ear fit seem to dominate the market.
They're on sale right now for $119. Labor Day Sale at Creative. Might pick them up!
That’s a sad truth about phones and some tablets excluding headphone jacks. Yet, many of those went bad rather quickly. Quite a few “adapters” that I’ve tried seem to be a good workaround.
Shure SE846 + Chord Mojo all day every day for me. Yes, it's a $1,800 combo, but the ultimate in ear portable experience. Thanks for the video. Always good to see reviews on high quality, affordable equipment.
If you buy from the Creative website they have been offering their $20 "Premium MMCX Cable" for free when you buy the Aurvana Trio.
Hello Mr Audiophiliac!
I have a request, would you consider listening to some KZ IEM and give your honest opinion?
I recently bought the ZS10 and I’m quite pleased with them atm, especially for the price. I must say I have little experience and would like to know your thoughts and how they compare to creative and 1more and what I am missing by buying cheaper earphones.
Thanks
I'm looking to upgrade from the se215 special edition. How much of an improvement would the trio be, more like 10%, or 50%?
I liked your police academy character.. 🤗
I really liked your video!
Have you tried the Fiio Triple Driver or the ibasso it01 yet?
i have way too many bluetooth devices that need charging. after a while it gets overbearing so am looking for some wired earbuds for sleep and i dont have to worry about charging the next morning.
Hey, have you checked out the Tin Audio T2? If not, give 'em a try! Really solid budget performer for only ~$50. (can be had for around $35 if you look out for discounts)
Dang! Was hoping they'd be the wrap around type.
Steve, have you tried Audeze isine 10 or 20? I'm wandering how they compare? I love 1more triple driver for every day use too.
Get a pixel 3a or Samsung Galaxy a51 both have headphone jacks as does the LG v50 with a quad dac
Nope, headphone jacks are NOT going away. I will never buy a phone without one and many many people feel the same. Do NOT let apple dictate how audio should work.
@@moongrass dongles are gay as fuck boy
Yes and with some extremely negative stuff coming out about bluetooth; possibly causes brain issues and even speeding dementia and causing tumors people will wind back down soon with the bluetooth headphones.
@@moongrass the adapter causes issues most notably planned obsolescence and replacement cost.
seems like a cool guy. just subscribed
Hi Steve, i would really appreciate it if you can compare the sound quality to the Xiaomi Active Noise Cancelling earphones with the type c connector which retails for about US$60. They also use a 3 driver setup.
Steve, have your hearing professional checked & post. About your age & naturally [literally & figuratively] have hearing loss; esp higher frequencies.
Enjoy the channel, thanks!
Wise advice for anyone living near things that make loud sounds, which is pretty much everywhere these days. Noise pollution is by far the leading cause of hearing loss.
I really would like to use ear buds for a lot of on the go applications, but I really cant stand having them in my ears for more than a short time. They just bug the crap out of me!
Ron, FWIW, I felt the same way. Over time, and with the help of a variety of different plug sizes, materials and designs my sensitivity diminished a lot. No promises, but if you're patient and willing to experiment you might find the right kind and/or get used to them.
Ron Shaw
My basic take is if it's not attached I normally lose it 😊
I need leads or I'm losing things on a regular x
If you want great & cheap on ear portable headphones, try the Koss KSC75. They are so cheap they just sit in my glove box waiting for emergency musicing. 😊
I am a novice very new to the world of Bluetooth headphones who just upgraded from Samsung Level U to Klipsch R6 earphones. I am a little embarrassed here, but may I ask you a pedestrian question? Daily, I wear a magnetic tie clip and the Klipsch earbuds rest conveniently on it. Will the magnet damage my new earbuds? Thanks for your expertise!
Get The LGV 50 or 60 he has a headphone jack that has an amplifier setting look up a video of it
If I happen to stumble across a large amount of money I will buy a pair of these and a Walkman
How would you say these compare to the Status Audio CB-1 in terms of audio quality?
I am using mostly the 1more E1010 Quad - did you try that one? It's their upgrade to the Triple driver you have. Would be interesting to see what you think about that one.
Are the quads a good upgrade when I'm using Sony xb50ap?
I HOPE IS BETTER...ENOUGH SAID
How about a comparison with the FIIO F9, F9 pro or even the fh1
If you don’t mind buying Chinese, consider getting the BLON BL03. They’re 30 bucks, and probably one of the best earphones under 200 bucks...
in rtings.com there are ratings regarding bass accuracy, mids accuracy and highs accuracy and also imaging and soundstage for 1more triple driver, how will you rate aruvana trio compared to 1more triple driver and rha ma750
You shoild check out the KZ ATE IEM earphones.
i just got them and inmediatly gonna return them. their gimmick feature called super xfi doesnt even work outside of the app. it sounds good with the...2 songs i got on my phone, but you cant use it anywhere outside of the app. so you cant use it with youtube, spotify or deezer. so its just a gimmick feature.
Try the campfire audio comet
Could you recommend a pair of in ear headphones? with nice bass but not overpowering to where it drowns out everything else, nice vocal and instrument clarity, I listen to mostly rock and rap, I do prefer wired, not into the bluetooth thing. My budget is $150, if you can help that would be awesome, I really don't know what to buy
The 1More tripple and quad driver are good ideas people seem to like. I have used the Shure se 215 for about 2 years now and they are great for 100 dollars, most people agree.
@@benbraceletspurple9108 i just bought the Shure se215 but I feel like they are lacking in bass, I was going to return them
What do you think about the Sony WI 1000 noise canceling earphones?
I like them, google my review.
And another question arises in my head, can wireless headphones or speakers be as good in sound as wired ones? I think that would be a little bit like comparing digital to analog, wireless means compression and decompression depending on decoders, wired is straight trough (depending on cable quality/construction). Bluetooth headphones are convenient for sport or work, but hey, with wired headphones you don’t have the inconvenience to charge them, but the inconvenience of cable hanging and tangling around, plus, what are you going to do when battery dies?, are you going to find and replace the batteries?, or are you going to ditch those headphones. I will still have the wired ones if they haven’t suffer any accident or I loose them.
I think it depends on what are you going to use the headphones for.
But for me is thumbs up and long live the wire and the rebirth of the jack 😊
A few thoughts:
1. "Wireless" doesn't automatically mean Bluetooth. The packs that musicians use for their IEM setups on stage don't use Bluetooth, or any of the ISM frequencies. I'm genuinely surprised that, given the stratospheric prices of non-pro headphones these days, that none of them are integrating the same kind of radios that they're using for their pro IEM setups.
2. Blutooth 5.0 with uncompressed LPCM has been out for like 6 months now.
3. Regardless the radio technology, the limiting factor is still how big and/or heavy a battery pack are you willing to carry around, or what sacrifices are you willing to make to keep the battery smaller/lighter. Don't be so quick to blame blue teeth about compression when all you have is a feeble coin cell powering your light-for-sports headphones.
I have to agree, technology is changing all the time, and is a good thing, to try to make things better.
And yes, wireless is good quality at professional level like in live concerts, and hopefully well get soon affordable for the main public.
I am just a little bit nostalgic about vintage stuff, I am a little bit old school 😊
What you think about the sennheiser 3.00 earphones
Thank you Steve hopefully Samsung will never loose the head phone jack ...
Wired phones look cooler in my opinion the Apple ear pods look rather pretentious...
Jeremy Smith
I hope so. This idea is not a good thing.
Love being able to plug my Samsung phone into any of my old amps with an auxiliary input 😊
Loose? Like set it loose, free in the wild?
theonetuby ....simply a typo.....
Jeremy Smith at least if you wear over ear headphones your not being as rude to others as they have no doubt that you can not hear them when they talk and they don't think you're just ignoring them! GIGGLES
Not to mention they look like electric toothbrush heads 😂
how about the FiiO f9 pro or f9 i own both check them out Steve
Is there anyway to still get these?
How about microphonics of the cord? all IEMs seem to have a big problem with that!
HASHEAVEN
True, ... however oftentimes significantly reduced via over-the-ear cordage in my experience.
Just like records theres no way wired headphones dying like the dinosaurs lol Bluetooth not good enough yet to beat straight wire connection. If im wrong pls enlighten me. Great videos very informative and easy on the ears nice that you dont act smug just cause you might no it all and willing yo help others get a better experience in audio.
Are they easy to drive? An amp would make them sound better or is it too much?
Carlos Pedrotti I just got these and I’m in love with the sound. They are easy to drive but I think they distort easily at higher volume due to being hard to drive on phone amps.. I have a iPhone SE... it’s also very harsh on not so good recorded tracks like MP3’s. Definitely 320kbps minimum, I’m on Apple Music and Apple lossless diles and it sounds amazing! It is very clear like he says and the bass is fast, I don’t crank it up higher than 80% because they get that loud. I may return these because $150 sounds like a lot but if it was $100 I’d definitely keep them. What is annoying is the mic button, it doesn’t have skip and rewind just pause and play...
Audiofilio Does it have good sub bass?
Like this channel, the very idea you should live according to what makes you tick. Loving intricacies in music is really appealing and makes me happy. Great channel for me one of the absolute best things about UA-cam. Happiness is following what comes to you naturally. .This affordable tech with your know gives great assistance it sounds current as well. Waiting out for a overhead earphone of great Audiophile exception and if u can get affordable loudspeakers why not have a amp with it, otherwise it suggests to get the best you can buy an expensive amp. Anyways the best place to put money to me is good sounding gadgets. Great channel, if u feel you can be in bliss listening to music, imagine having more of it, registrar effortlessly, that to me is Audiophile 😊
They didn't rate that well on rtings.com like a 6.3 in critical listening, while the audio Technica m50x got a 7.9. same price and the m50x are undoubtedly more comfortable and sturdier. I call bs on paid-off audio reviewers.
Steve, did you hear about the new LG phone that has 4 DA converters in it?
I own one. Amaizing!!!!
sickjohnson which one?
sickjohnson
Ohhhhhhhhh 😮
Marlés B
I'd like to know too please?
The phone is the G7 ThinQ
What impedance are these?
If you like your I phone 6S for music like I thought I did mine. When you step up to a LG V-30 you’ll move up to a whole new level. I compare it to my IFI Black Label amp DAC built into a phone. It easily plays and pushes my full size headphones Sennheiser 650 and 800 The way the iPhone could never do.
I don't see the big deal with wireless shit, like there really isn't that big of a difference unless you're sitting down and listening to the difference between wireless and not, in which case you are defeating the point of going wireless. When I go out on my climbs, not typically mountains but more rather buildings, I like to listen to music. The problem comes when you accidentally snag your wire when you're climbing and rip your phone out of your pocket or better yet rip your earbuds out of years and ruin them permanently. Now usually my headphones break after the fact, not due to it, but it certainly has happened. Don't get me wrong you'll still hear if the highs are sibilant, or if the bass is muddy, or if the vocal presence is gone, but the main point of this is that tiny difference between 2 different bitrates such as 96k and 192k will not be heard likely at all.
Which is better pick?, 1-More Quad or Creative Trio?
KZ ES4 or KZ ED16
I have a wrecked pair of 1more triples and a 1more quad I'm wearing right now. I'd also like to know where this might sit in relation.
I'd guess Quad, but I didn't do the comparison.
Rock zircons are better than any of those and theyre only $20 on amazon.
FiiO f9 or f9pro
I remember years ago I was at the store that I got my equipment from and the sales rep told me about some in-ear headphones from Paradigm. They wanted $650 for the "top of the line" unit and I can't remember what the second tier one cost. I couldn't even audition them cause they weren't out yet. I said no thanks. I prefer to hear what's going on around me when I'm outside.
Okay boomer
I don't do these in ears, I can't stand having things in my ears.
Crazy prayingmantis love my koss pro 4AA Studio phones. But if you like loud you need a good headphone amp or an old school receiver or amp to drive them.
I was about to say the same thing when I saw your comment. I don't like things in my ears, either, except maybe the occasional Q-tip. (I know, I know, but that is their real purpose. The company just says that crap to avoid liability.)
I much prefer my speakers, but at work or on a plane I still have a fourth generation iPod and some Sennheiser Momentum headphones. People look at you like you're crazy or have committed some major fashion faux pas wearing those big headphones, and that fat iPod is just too much, so quaint. Still sounds okay, especially playing WAV files.
Just look at those woofers.
I'm sad wired headphones are leaving
I'm sorry, can we use real words? Open is not a sound. I don't go around saying that things sound "milkshake" because that would be stupid. So please stop. Ditto for "bio-cellulose." What other kind of cellulose is there? Just say paper.
Here's another news flash: not all wired headphone users have nothing better than Apple phones to use at the other end. That's one business that Apple Inc. is not going to dictate the demise of. Plenty of other brands of phones out there, and plenty of other things that aren't phones at all that people use to _just play music_ on! Someone should make it his job to report these trends to the masses...
Aurvana Trio vs FiiO F5
Ohh Snaps how low does the bass go on the creative aurvana trio? Does it have more midbass or subbass?
Ohh Snaps Thank you for your help. I'm listening on my kids Etymotic. I like the sound but would like something more comfortable and that sounds a bit more natural with stringed instruments and possibly a very little more bass (particularly sub bass) but not much. Or it would also be acceptable to be a significantly more refined version of the se215 with more detail, or somewhere in between Shure and Etymotic. I'm having trouble settling on a favorite sound signature.
Bio cellulose = Paper ?
Wired non tracking, non disposable, non cancer causing, no need for sealed batteries, no latency, no drop outs, user serviceable, headphones, good ones at least, will be around long after bluetooth aptx hd, ldac, wifi, chrome-cast dlna is in it's 100th version and landfills are filled with disposable battery powered wireless plastic headphones.
So until 2100 at least, samsung and LG, (quad dac and pro amp) Essential dac and amp adapter, one plus, and many non apple and google phones still embrace and improve on the headphone jack experience.
Apple bought beats for $3 billion dollars and need to force everyone over to extremely profitable wireless headphones to make that investment pay off, that is why that got rid of the headphone jack and gave us a ugly easy to lose dongle instead to further make us want wireless. They make a bundle on lost dongle sales.
Well to add insult to injure and almost force loyal apple customers to wireless beats and airpods and other Professional Apple wireless headphones they are rumored to be stopping including the headphone dongle in iphones, meaning no dongle no included buds and no lower price.
SO now you must pay Apple to use your wireless headphones.
Sort of like when the removed cd/dvd drives to get you to use itunes music and movie downloads, or pay apple for an overpriced external unit, and the computer prices did not go down with the removal.
Funny how there is nothing new under the sun.
History is repeating itself, and greed is running the show.
Iphone galaxy and Lg phone user at different time, I swore I would never by a phone without a headphone jack, so Apple has lost a ton of customers like me.
As expensive as iphones are it should be included, but we all know why it is not.
I would even pay an additional $50-$100 or so more for an iPhone Apple if it was to include a headphone jack with a DAC/AMP chip inside that could rival LG's V10,V20,V30, V35, G7, smart phones, and 24 bit stereo recording uncompressed.
I mean is not Apple famous for music, they bought Logic AND Apple Lossless from Emagic, bought a company to get iTunes, they have garageband, and Apple music, yet they do not have lossless streaming like tidal, or any of the latest bluetooth codecs that have really improved wireless quality big time APTXHD< SONY's LDAC, both included on basically all android phones.
Apple simply does not want to pay Qualcomm the licensing fees, so there customers lose on a great wireless audio, ironically apple itself makes a ton from Lightning and made for Apple licensing.
Oh well my rant is over, wired will be around until it is banned, because customers will demand it and will not just buy whats available, we have had enough of being told what to use and what not to use, by these tech companies that are just looking out for more profits and not their customers best interests and user experience, they could give a *(W#&^%!%!$ about you.
Tigerex966 sir I am lucky to born in the 60s and enjoy the music of 60s and 70s so I use samsung and lg. Apple is going to to lose a lot of people and money. Also their products are nothing special just a lot of hype
No one is awake yet.
Rock zircons are only $20 and they can compete with any 200ish earbuds.
no they can't
CloudSound no
I own a pair they don't
I love my 1mores
Why do you hate the adaptor on the iPhone...WHY is it not a good solution? Please explain rather than just throw-away comments.
...hold on a minute The question is directed at Steve Guttenberg, not you. Keep out of this conversation.
Sorry...WHAT is why he won't reply? You don't explain yourself. Also, I don't give a shit about your Note 8. Get used to that.
As far as I am aware the adapter is quite good, I think he doesnt like the adapter because apple removes the jack and you have to use an adapter. Apple is using a different cirrus logic chip in the adapter, though I am not sure about this info.
'Just fine' isn't a good enough reason to keep something. Why not aim for something better and more flexible? I think you'll find that now, many other manufacturers have followed suit and are removing their 3.5mm sockets as well.
To address your comments:
The adaptor if free with an iPhone...you don't have to buy one.
Don't lose it and don't forget to take it with you. I find if you keep it attached to the end of your earphones you won't lose it.
Mine have never broken, they seem to be extremely reliable.
Finally, the tone of my reply was based on the fact that my question clearly wasn't addressed to you. I don't know why you thought you had enough knowledge of Steve's opinions and intentions to speak on his behalf?
I'm fully aware there are millions of Android fan-boys out there who think all of Apple's decision are 'shitty' and I'm really not interested. The company seems to be doing fine without your input and if you want to know why they removed the 3.5mm adaptor, read up on it.
Here's the first link that came up in a search I just did - smartphones.gadgethacks.com/news/what-every-major-phone-gained-by-removing-headphone-jack-0181462/
Let's just wait for Steve to reply to my original question now shall we?
Dave Hutchinson, grow up, child! This is a public forum! if you don't like that, just say nothing.