Ddlala63- I found that scene funny when I was a kid. Also, I literally had no idea that it was vichyssoise, or, what it even was until after I asked my dad about it & now, I laugh even more because of it.
Chandros Evans no incorrect it’s all WB’s fault because they didn’t want burton to come back & do a third film at all because they had a lot of complaints from parents about Batman returns on how it’s too dark & scary for the kids etc etc & also McDonald’s went & fucked it up as well by bitching to WB about the happy meal toy line for that time for the movie & it was Keaton who was actually trying to reason with WB to get burton back & do a better script for a third film with Keaton & Michelle Pfeiffer coming back as catwomen with burton directing but WB very very stupidly said no to burton & no Keaton he pretty much was vouching for burton & Vice a versa for burton but as we know we got the shitty end of both the two crappy films after this movie
@Chandros Evans I've heard that Joel Schumacher originally wanted to adapt Batman Year One, and do a more personal story take on Batman. But, the studio wanted a lighter tone.
The detective work in this movie is what I love. This is why Matt Reeves wants his Batman to really showcase his detective skills and more. I love this scene.
This is exactly an aspect that is not given enough attention, perhaps even in comics: Batman *is* supposed to be a great gumshoe, with an eye for detail and good investigation skills. After all, DC does stand for Detective Comics. In actuality, Batman is supposed to be the ledge that an investigator needs to lift up an obstacle that they wouldn't be able to take on within the confines of the law.
@@optimusprime595 He definitely did more detective work in the Nolan trilogy, though. That version is the closest thing we have to a Batman who can be rightfully called "world's greatest detective" on film.
I believe he does that for security precautions, Incase someone happens to tap into his radio- database computer system and listen in who he talks too. He has to be Batman at all times out in the world when he’s suited and booted.
Yep I love that delivery it gives detective vibe (I mean that’s what Bruce is doing) but that delivery also tells that Bruce has realised what penguin had or have done For those who didn’t get it: Bruce or Batman is gathering intel about this penguin pervious “activities” so after he read the newspaper Bruce/Batman has realised that he’s dealing with child kidnapper and child killer so that’s why Bruce is feeling worst
JK193765 Always thought it showed how Burtons Batman was so antisocial and always living literally in a cave. Hence he’s so unaware of things like the soup Alfred made. I mean hell in the first movie nobody knew who the heck Bruce Wayne was despite hosting a charity in his house.
Keaton is batman. Keaton understood that both Wayne and Batman were characters Bruce played but was not quite comfortable with either. Keaton is brilliant.
A very solid sequel to Batman, a more darker, more violent and more atmospheric with a lot of style. I don't understand why some hate the movie for its more darker brutal elements. What the filmmakers were going for is a more darker, more violent and more fearful take on Batman and they did a fantastic job on it. Michael Keaton is soo damn awesome as Batman I wish he had his own Batman trilogy instead of 2.
McDonald's. That's the answer to that question. While the first one had dark elements in it, it wasn't enough to scare kids. So Bats, Joker and the like were able to sell movie based merch in McDonald's. However they upped the ante making the scenes more scarier and sometimes even more sexual. And McDonald's advertised the tie-in toys before the movie was out. So needless to say, kids were hyped, parents were paying and they took their kids to the movie. They got scared, parents complained and Tim and Mike were fired as a result. Kinda Ironic, McDonald's nearly cost Michael Keaton a career and now he's famous for playing the guy that cost the McDonald Brothers a restaurant.
I agree. In my opinion, Burton's Batman movies struck a very effective balance between comic book kitsch and gritty realism, but they offset one another to keep either from being too much.
Marchiz Productions I hate it for the penguins’ jokes “I was their number 1 and they treated me like number 2” in a burton film, this line just doesn’t work but I love the movie in general, a better costume than its predecessor as this one is more form fitting in Keaton and the mask is sleek and doesn’t look ... smudgy? The previous suit was still great though
Are you saved friend? If you died tonight will you go to heaven or hell? God Almighty, the Creator was manifest in the flesh. He came into the world to take away the sin of the world. He gave up his own life to save yours. His sacrifice on the cross paid the price for your redemption with his own blood. On the third day he rose from dead and offers the gift of salvation and forgiveness to those that repent and trust in him. This is the Gospel which means the Good News. Those that reject redemption will go to hell. John 1:1-3,10 KJV In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] The same was in the beginning with God. [3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. [10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. Isaiah 44:6 KJV Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Revelation 1:17-18 KJV And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: [18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast. Acts 4:12 KJV Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. John 5:24 KJV Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Matthew 28:19-20 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
It’s scenes like this that makes me disappointed there was never a third Tim Burton Batman. I would’ve love to see more scenes between Michael Keaton and Michael Gough.
I love the casual cruising around in the Batmobile. Unlike the first movie when it was a chase scene, this one's even better. Makes you wonder how the people of Gotham feel when they see it going down the street.
If I lived in Gotham and I’m on my porch having a smoke or something and I saw the Batmobile just cruise down the my street I’d probably go back inside and put my gun on my nightstand cause obviously something’s/someone’s roaming the streets.
@@pretenderxxx2385 He finds a clue that the Penguin is part of the circus gang ("aquatic bird boy"). Children disappeared at their circus long ago, and Bruce wonders if the Penguin had something to do with it, and also suspects the research the Penguin is doing is not what it seems. Later, it's revealed he was making a list of children to kill.
Reckless_Fox I thought that Bruce had discovered that the aquatic bird boy was penguin’s actual father- a child killer- and had impregnated penguin’s mother, which would have put the family to shame, so they abandoned him as a baby
This is hands down the best Bruce Wayne and Alfred scene in the entire movie, the dialogue exchange between these two is straight up gold and there's such a warm quality to their chemistry, its not a man and his butler, its like a father and son interaction. The minimal use of music playing quietly in the background really adds so much to this especially when Bruce is driving through the snow in the Batmobile as Batman and when he's staring through the window at the Penguin with those eyes, its like reading the pages of a comic book. Absolutely epic!
Keep in mind, Bruce constantly leaves the dinners Alfred serves him in the Batcave, not eating them, Alfred then takes the cold food and reheats it for him later. Alfred purposely gave him a dish meant to be eaten cold cause he figures Bruce may not eat it anyways so it doesn’t matter if it’s served cold. This movie and this scene are just brilliant!
I actually like how Keaton played Bruce Wayne as a quiet and unassuming figure, I don't prefer it to the comic version, but it's still an interesting take. The cut from normal Bruce speaking calmly in the Batcave to Batman growling in the Batmobile is very striking. Also, I like how he seems disappointed when he confirms that Penguin isn't what he seems, in the earlier scene, he seemed to feel some level of kinship with him as a fellow freak who lost his parents, he clearly didn't want to be right in his suspicions.
Keaton's Batman voice was chilling without sounding like he had a throat problem. Bale's Batman voice was one of the few weak points of Nolan's trilogy
I love how he was suspicious of penguin since day 1 and when he gave that stare at him outside while in the batmobile almost as if saying “you may have fooled this city but I’m on to you penguin”
@@ciro9951 Yes, and no. Technically, he can. But since Reeve Superman tends to give Luthor, Zod, Webster, Nuclear Man and CW Luthor the benefit of the doubt, Keaton Batman has a CHANCE of winning.
@@Byrnzi360 pity we never got a film with them since Chris hung up the cape for good after the fourth Superman film bombed so badly at the box office, which I found out was partly his fault since he helped write the script for that one and the whole "ending nuclear war" storyline was his idea. Even he later admitted it was a "huge mistake" in his book Still Me, which was published after he had his accident in '95.
Fun Fact: The Vichyssoise bit is a Fore-Shadowing to the ending of the movie ("The Revenge is a dish best served cool") AND can be a Nod/Trolling from Alfred about The Joker and his death on the previous movie.
It’s also a brilliant Americanism, a reflection and hearkening that sophistication for its own sake - culinary taste being an example - was never an aspect of even the American elite like Wayne...
@@Bombadilspipe I feel it also shows Wayne's character in particular...even though he was born raised in incredible wealth, he doesn't have an interest in that cultural knowledge that you might expect. It simply doesn't interest him.
@@roosterjackson7258 It's like when Donald Trump, a man who doesn't eat fancy food. He eats fast food like KFC, McDonalds and eats steak with ketchup and mixes in with the lower classes. Sort of like Julius Caesar. Hence why the establishment elite hated them, and backstabbed them.
I love it when Alfred sits down and asks Bruce why he's trying to find out about the penguin, that he looks like he's talking to a brick wall so to speak.
I noticed that too🤣🤣 alfred is thinking god he is rude just simply ignores me advice, fuck him and fuck batman he deseres to be drowned because he is ignorant
Gotham really did a great job paying homage to this aspect of their relationship. Many times in the series, Alfred would get exasperated at Bruce for ignoring his advice and jumping head first into a new investigation or mystery to solve. You could imagine this was a similar relationship to the younger versions of Gough and Keaton's characters.
This deserved a third film. But when studios act dumb you punish them. Keaton was right in turning forever down if he couldn't get burton. Those pair were a dream team. Saw returns recently and my god its aging well. Some say the story is all over the place and yes that could be true but when the cast and style is so spot on it really doesn't matter. Keaton will always be the best batman to me.
Its going to hit me when i see Keaton by himself in The Flash without Alfred. Keaton and Gough had the best chemistry. I hope he gets an honorable mention. Micahel Gough my favorite Alfred. 🙌
@@andreasvb1142 Yes also seems they inspired the comics along with Adam's west show. They were so smart and ahead at the time to create a show that took all the good things of batman put them together and created a masterpiece.
The complexity...in this scene, we thought batman is in doubt of penguin because of his instinct and wisdom tell him something's wrong. Well, he IS the greatest detective after all. But in the final showdown, the movie gives us a hint that batman might felt jealousy toward penguin. Because he is a freak without a mask but still loved by everyone. (for a while, at least). Because of that, he didn't WANT to believe penguin is a good guy from the beginning. He just couldn't accept it. That's why he tried to dig up his past, and eyeballed him with so much suspicion and despise...
I get emotional at how much I love this character...especially in scenes like this. As much as I love Affleck's portrayal, nothing will ever come close to being as subtle & nuanced as Keaton's is to me. P.S. 1:41 That cowl is ridiculously beautiful
I imagine I get a similar expression when my people ask me if I'm good with them leaving early for the day. Often enough, it was my own boss trying to get to some ballgame. Over the years, I've probably only declined a few times when it was absurdly bad timing.
I must say, I prefer this look of the Batcave than the look in Batman (1989). Actually, this look reminds me more of the Batcave in Batman: The Animated Series, which of course premiered the same year as Batman Returns. Wonder if BTAS based their Batcave on this design.
it blows my mind that Michael Gough was Alfred Pennyworth, and in the 1960's was the Celestial Toymaker in Doctor Who and at one time married to Anneke Wills.
BTAS was made in response to the success of the 1989 film. While Bruce Timm and co wanted to go with their vision of the Dark Knight, the Burton movies did still serve some inspiration. Like the Art Deco Noir aesthetic, the batcave, the gadgets, and Batman himself. The Watchtower Database, a channel dedicated to the DCAU, did an entire video on the subject.
I just adore the over all design of this movie. It's weird and brooding and Gotham is so strange and outlandish that it actually feels like the kind of place batman could exist
As a kid I always thought that was oatmeal he was eating 🤣 this scene has lived in my head for 30 years. I randomly searched for it today wtf is wrong with me 😂
I always loved this very small scene that shows the humanity of both of them. Bruce will sometimes catch himself still being the little spoiled rich kid whom Alfred raised, pampered and nurtured. As soon as Alfred made a small bit of sense, Bruce accepts it completely and forgets about it instantly because he trusts Alfred more than anyone in his world. He didn't give his opinion on it or make any remarks about it. He instantly humbles himself and continues eating the soup. Almost feeling foolish because he caught himself being a snob for a split second 🤣. It shows Bruce's humility and instant sense of logic always overcoming his own desire.
This whole video is more batman then anything after even though the Christopher Nolan movies are better this is batman to his core the acting the scenery the bat mobile and the bat cave Keaton and tim burton nail batman from the comics batman 89 and batman returns will always be 1# to me
When I was little I thought Alfred was saying "It's fishy sausage" That looked like neither fish nor sausage, nor would I want to eat a fishy sausage cold.
They can make all the new Batman movies they like, and it will never change the fact that Michael Keaton WAS Batman. Not sure anyone will ever be able to wear a batsuit and convince me the way Keaton did.
Love this scene. It shows Batman doing proper detective work without wearing the suit. Following his gut and studying on a potential threat before he goes in to stop it.
Man that soup part was straight gold, like he spits it out all disappointed and then realized that it’s suppose be that way, so he eats it again.
Ikr
Thank screenwriter Daniel Waters for this scene
Ddlala63- I found that scene funny when I was a kid.
Also, I literally had no idea that it was vichyssoise, or, what it even was until after I asked my dad about it & now, I laugh even more because of it.
I like how "human" this action makes Bruce/Batman look.
The look on Michael Keaton's face at 0:33 is funny and so priceless.
Keaton and Gough had really great chemistry. A third film would have been nice.
Yeah, me too. Michael Keaton and Tim Burton even wanted to explore more on Batman's origin in the third film until Warner Bros gave Tim the boot.
Yeah not to mention Gough already passed...I would say he's the best Alfred ever, Michael Cain did good but you can't compare him to Gough.
I do remember Michael Keaton didnt like the script for batman forever thus he declined to return
Chandros Evans no incorrect it’s all WB’s fault because they didn’t want burton to come back & do a third film at all because they had a lot of complaints from parents about Batman returns on how it’s too dark & scary for the kids etc etc & also McDonald’s went & fucked it up as well by bitching to WB about the happy meal toy line for that time for the movie & it was Keaton who was actually trying to reason with WB to get burton back & do a better script for a third film with Keaton & Michelle Pfeiffer coming back as catwomen with burton directing but WB very very stupidly said no to burton & no Keaton he pretty much was vouching for burton & Vice a versa for burton but as we know we got the shitty end of both the two crappy films after this movie
@Chandros Evans
I've heard that Joel Schumacher originally wanted to adapt Batman Year One, and do a more personal story take on Batman. But, the studio wanted a lighter tone.
The detective work in this movie is what I love. This is why Matt Reeves wants his Batman to really showcase his detective skills and more. I love this scene.
This is exactly an aspect that is not given enough attention, perhaps even in comics: Batman *is* supposed to be a great gumshoe, with an eye for detail and good investigation skills. After all, DC does stand for Detective Comics. In actuality, Batman is supposed to be the ledge that an investigator needs to lift up an obstacle that they wouldn't be able to take on within the confines of the law.
@@optimusprime595 He definitely did more detective work in the Nolan trilogy, though. That version is the closest thing we have to a Batman who can be rightfully called "world's greatest detective" on film.
@@Whoa802 When in the nolan trilogy did he do any detective work besides that one scene where he finds jokers' fingerprint
@@SejfTrix Yes. He followed the trail of Falcones shipment and interrogated Flass on where the rest of it was going
@@aaronkenyon7112 oh yeah right. Considering Batman begins is my favorite batman film I should remember that
I love that he does the Batman voice even when talking to Alfred in the car.
Keaton invented the bat-voice idea, not Christian Bale
I believe he does that for security precautions, Incase someone happens to tap into his radio- database computer system and listen in who he talks too. He has to be Batman at all times out in the world when he’s suited and booted.
@@cosmicdarkmatter1128 very true before that the actors who played Batman would always use the same voice for both Bruce and Batman .
Christian Bale uses the batman voice even for himself xD
“So that’s what it feels like...” when Catwoman vanishes
Mike Richardson that actually makes sense
The Batmobile slow cruising through the snow at night is just such a good scene
I always liked how the Batmobile's jet turbine booster thing was on even at low speeds, lol.
The music + that window shot of him pulling up completes the scene
"Before........he could be questioned." The delivery by Keaton always gives me chills.
Penguin must have bumped him off to silence him
@@josephmullin5845 That member WAS the Penguin 🤣🤣🤣 He disappeared before he could be questioned because he was the culprit, he was hiding 😅😅
Yep I love that delivery it gives detective vibe (I mean that’s what Bruce is doing) but that delivery also tells that Bruce has realised what penguin had or have done
For those who didn’t get it: Bruce or Batman is gathering intel about this penguin pervious “activities” so after he read the newspaper Bruce/Batman has realised that he’s dealing with child kidnapper and child killer so that’s why Bruce is feeling worst
But why would penguin kill children??
@@ShadowInTheMoonlightprobably bitter or angry that his parents didn’t want him as a child so he wants to take other peoples children from them.
That soup part was the most random but hilarious thing ever.
JK193765 (1) Shows how distracted Bruce was (2) Alfred is a wonderful chef.
JK193765 That part cracked me up as a kid 😆
"Seriously Alfred? Its freezing in Gotham, even colder in my dark damp cave. And you make me cold soup? SERIOUSLY!"
JK193765 Always thought it showed how Burtons Batman was so antisocial and always living literally in a cave. Hence he’s so unaware of things like the soup Alfred made. I mean hell in the first movie nobody knew who the heck Bruce Wayne was despite hosting a charity in his house.
Is the one other notable thing I remember from this movie, all the way back from when I saw it as a kid.
Keaton is batman. Keaton understood that both Wayne and Batman were characters Bruce played but was not quite comfortable with either. Keaton is brilliant.
Κeaton is the perfect match .
Batman is real,bruce Wayne is a character.
He's the best bruce wayne & batman, no doubt about it
@Luka Modric but Keaton's portrayal was legit organic and weirdly charming. Not plain bland playboy which Bale indeed pulled off well..
@@BatMan-ke4ov That's really just in the Dark Knight returns version
A very solid sequel to Batman, a more darker, more violent and more atmospheric with a lot of style. I don't understand why some hate the movie for its more darker brutal elements. What the filmmakers were going for is a more darker, more violent and more fearful take on Batman and they did a fantastic job on it. Michael Keaton is soo damn awesome as Batman I wish he had his own Batman trilogy instead of 2.
McDonald's. That's the answer to that question. While the first one had dark elements in it, it wasn't enough to scare kids. So Bats, Joker and the like were able to sell movie based merch in McDonald's. However they upped the ante making the scenes more scarier and sometimes even more sexual. And McDonald's advertised the tie-in toys before the movie was out. So needless to say, kids were hyped, parents were paying and they took their kids to the movie. They got scared, parents complained and Tim and Mike were fired as a result. Kinda Ironic, McDonald's nearly cost Michael Keaton a career and now he's famous for playing the guy that cost the McDonald Brothers a restaurant.
What's more ironic is that McDonald's mascot is a clown, just like the majority of the Red Triangle Circus Gang.
Not to mention The Joker.
I agree. In my opinion, Burton's Batman movies struck a very effective balance between comic book kitsch and gritty realism, but they offset one another to keep either from being too much.
Marchiz Productions I hate it for the penguins’ jokes “I was their number 1 and they treated me like number 2” in a burton film, this line just doesn’t work but I love the movie in general, a better costume than its predecessor as this one is more form fitting in Keaton and the mask is sleek and doesn’t look ... smudgy? The previous suit was still great though
That music when he says “I think he knows who his parents are” is so bad ass
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It sounds like the instrumental version of Sixouxie & The Banshees' "Face to Face" that gets played later at the mask ball.
I love how the music kicks in after he says that
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John 1:1-3,10 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] The same was in the beginning with God. [3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. [10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Isaiah 44:6 KJV
Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
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And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: [18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
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For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast.
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Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Matthew 28:19-20 KJV
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
It’s scenes like this that makes me disappointed there was never a third Tim Burton Batman. I would’ve love to see more scenes between Michael Keaton and Michael Gough.
Michael Keaton will be back as Batman in the upcoming Flash movie in 2022!
Sadly however, Michael Gough died in 2011.
no thanks, burton is a hack who doesnt understand the batman character
I really like Michael Keaton's performance as the Vulture in Spider-man: Homecoming but I love his portrayal as Batman way better.
Martin Nguyen Michael Keaton play a superhero better than a supervillian
All of his portrayals are excellent
Michael Keaton was the best thing about Spider Man:Homecoming ,he's the only reason that made the movie tolerable for me.
He likes playing bird-based characters, apparently.
@@coreytoomey7579 I think you mean "characters that dress like winged animals".
Batman, Birdman, and the Vulture.
0:28 I love that Bruce complains about the cold soup, but then after Alfred says it’s supposed to be that way, he eats it again.😂😂😂
He realized!
Oh!
Let me enjoy it!
It makes me hungry and wants to try to make some
(Hopefully for the summer because …)
1:49 I like how even though he knows it's just alfred that he's speaking to, bruce still uses his batman voice and stays in character
We have already seen that statement, come up with something else
@@aleksandarmiletic5610 It's only been 3 weeks, but are you still a total twat?
1:26
The moment Batman realized he was dealing with a child murderer
Even Jack Napier didn't go that far...
@@Whoa802 depends one which version of Jack Napier we are dealing with. Also holy shit I didn't realize how many people liked this post!
@@Whoa802 He was about to kill Bruce too, Joe Chill shouted for them to flee. In that version, Chill saved Bruce's life.
@@Whoa802Jack actually was going to kill anyone, including Bruce. One of his henchmen stopped him.
1:00 Alfred’s expression when Bruce flat out ignores his question is hilarious 😂
Oh Micheal Gough you are missed fantastic actor and a wonderful voice.
The most "Batman" scene in the whole movie.
Pretty much. Funny moment with Alfred, detective work, and a cool night-time Batmobile ride through Gotham while thinking of what his enemy is up to.
Yeah, but there is the scene with the bat signal, which is awesome as well
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That penguin theme at 1:52! Awesome
Man, the mood set here is awesome. I love the 89 film and this one.
I love the casual cruising around in the Batmobile. Unlike the first movie when it was a chase scene, this one's even better. Makes you wonder how the people of Gotham feel when they see it going down the street.
If I lived in Gotham and I’m on my porch having a smoke or something and I saw the Batmobile just cruise down the my street I’d probably go back inside and put my gun on my nightstand cause obviously something’s/someone’s roaming the streets.
When Batman gives you that look at 2:10, you're done.
When Batman gives you that look you are cured of constipation!
The look on Michael's face at 0:33 is priceless.
Daniel Williamson They're both Michael. Michael Gough and Michael Keaton. Lol
@@adamdemgar2798 Sorry, it should been Michael K.
I love how Alfred says "It's supposed to be cold"
This was hands down the best bat-cave. No other has topped it (TAS being a close second)
Agreed, the other movies never captured the aesthetics of the Bat-cave from the comics ever again after this.
Michael Gough and Michael Keaton made absolute magic in Batman & Batman Returns. They were also close friends in real life. Simply marvelous
1:14
That moment right there low-key creeps me out because at that moment Bruce realize that he has to go after a legit child murderer
I never understood that exact scene and I still dont get it😄
@@pretenderxxx2385 He finds a clue that the Penguin is part of the circus gang ("aquatic bird boy"). Children disappeared at their circus long ago, and Bruce wonders if the Penguin had something to do with it, and also suspects the research the Penguin is doing is not what it seems. Later, it's revealed he was making a list of children to kill.
Ah thx😊But why is Bruce wayne dressed as Batman at the end of the movie?
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Reckless_Fox I thought that Bruce had discovered that the aquatic bird boy was penguin’s actual father- a child killer- and had impregnated penguin’s mother, which would have put the family to shame, so they abandoned him as a baby
This is hands down the best Bruce Wayne and Alfred scene in the entire movie, the dialogue exchange between these two is straight up gold and there's such a warm quality to their chemistry, its not a man and his butler, its like a father and son interaction. The minimal use of music playing quietly in the background really adds so much to this especially when Bruce is driving through the snow in the Batmobile as Batman and when he's staring through the window at the Penguin with those eyes, its like reading the pages of a comic book. Absolutely epic!
Lmao passing with the car outside the window... That's some smooth spying skills right there
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I always preferred the first film until now. 28 years later, this film is brilliant !
No it's not
Keep in mind, Bruce constantly leaves the dinners Alfred serves him in the Batcave, not eating them, Alfred then takes the cold food and reheats it for him later. Alfred purposely gave him a dish meant to be eaten cold cause he figures Bruce may not eat it anyways so it doesn’t matter if it’s served cold. This movie and this scene are just brilliant!
I adore the aesthetic of the Burton movies in general, Returns is no exception to that.
No one matches Michael Gough as Alfred.
erm wb the other Michael? Caine delivered a much more nuanced and emotive performance you have to say
Caine's good, but Gough is the best.
Efrem Zimbalist Jr. ftw
Sean pertwee for me
Agreed. He's the only thing in Batman Forever/& Robin that stops both films being absolute train-wrecks. Good man.
I love the music and the dark unsettling tone
This version of Wayne and Alfred really worked.
Micheal Gough and Micheal Keaton what a fantastic combination
Sj Cap so were Val Kilmer and George Clooney.
Sj Cap, they were hilarious.
@@philipmancera5796 Nah, Keaton had much better chemistry with Gough than those other two. And I liked Kilmer.
I actually like how Keaton played Bruce Wayne as a quiet and unassuming figure, I don't prefer it to the comic version, but it's still an interesting take. The cut from normal Bruce speaking calmly in the Batcave to Batman growling in the Batmobile is very striking.
Also, I like how he seems disappointed when he confirms that Penguin isn't what he seems, in the earlier scene, he seemed to feel some level of kinship with him as a fellow freak who lost his parents, he clearly didn't want to be right in his suspicions.
ive grown up with this masterpiece of a film. and it still holds up better than its contemporaries that are released 20 years after
mY goD, 2:04 Keaton is still the best-looking Batman, that jawline is Batman's, ICONIC
can't wait for The Flash
Keaton's Batman voice was chilling without sounding like he had a throat problem. Bale's Batman voice was one of the few weak points of Nolan's trilogy
I really do like this version of Bruce, the modern adaptations obviously weren’t made to be trendsetters
I agree. Christian Bale tried too hard with the Batman voice.
I love how he was suspicious of penguin since day 1 and when he gave that stare at him outside while in the batmobile almost as if saying “you may have fooled this city but I’m on to you penguin”
Imagine if this Batman ever squared up against Superman.
@@Byrnzi360 Christopher reeves would’ve shit on this Batman
@@ciro9951 Yes, and no. Technically, he can. But since Reeve Superman tends to give Luthor, Zod, Webster, Nuclear Man and CW Luthor the benefit of the doubt, Keaton Batman has a CHANCE of winning.
@@Byrnzi360 pity we never got a film with them since Chris hung up the cape for good after the fourth Superman film bombed so badly at the box office, which I found out was partly his fault since he helped write the script for that one and the whole "ending nuclear war" storyline was his idea. Even he later admitted it was a "huge mistake" in his book Still Me, which was published after he had his accident in '95.
And I love that Bruce is disappointed that his suspicions about Penguin were confirmed
Alfred= the only one who can truly outsmart the World's Greatest Detective.
gor9027 But the world's greatest detective was Sherlock Holmes. 😊
Adam Demgar Alfred could probably outsmart him too 😂
gor9027 he knew him all his life so it makes sense
+gor9027 Nah, Batman just had no clue about cooking.
I was this years old when I realized Cobblepot wasn’t looking for his own birth records- he was looking for all the first born children.
First-born sons
Fun Fact: The Vichyssoise bit is a Fore-Shadowing to the ending of the movie ("The Revenge is a dish best served cool") AND can be a Nod/Trolling from Alfred about The Joker and his death on the previous movie.
Jansom Janor Good call 👍🏻
It’s also a brilliant Americanism, a reflection and hearkening that sophistication for its own sake - culinary taste being an example - was never an aspect of even the American elite like Wayne...
@@Bombadilspipe I feel it also shows Wayne's character in particular...even though he was born raised in incredible wealth, he doesn't have an interest in that cultural knowledge that you might expect. It simply doesn't interest him.
@@roosterjackson7258 It's like when Donald Trump, a man who doesn't eat fancy food. He eats fast food like KFC, McDonalds and eats steak with ketchup and mixes in with the lower classes. Sort of like Julius Caesar. Hence why the establishment elite hated them, and backstabbed them.
I think Alfred must've studied international cuisines before working as the Wayne family's butler.
“Must you be the only lonely man beast in town?” I love Alfred.
This scene where Bats is patrolling Gotham in the Batmoblie is awesome.
Rome Jordon, it is. That’s a cool car.
This batcave resembles the TAS batcave the most.
HiddenWen I mean Batman TAS did take quite a bit of elements from the animated series in terms of designs
Of course the Animated series took a lot of inspiration from the Burton movies
The animated series was based off the Burton films
HiddenWen actually BTAS was based off of Keaton's Batman, u know that right?
Where do you think TAS got the design from?
I love it when Alfred sits down and asks Bruce why he's trying to find out about the penguin, that he looks like he's talking to a brick wall so to speak.
I noticed that too🤣🤣 alfred is thinking god he is rude just simply ignores me advice, fuck him and fuck batman he deseres to be drowned because he is ignorant
HOW 2DOO, LOL, it is funny.
Gotham really did a great job paying homage to this aspect of their relationship. Many times in the series, Alfred would get exasperated at Bruce for ignoring his advice and jumping head first into a new investigation or mystery to solve. You could imagine this was a similar relationship to the younger versions of Gough and Keaton's characters.
I love how Bruce just accepts that it’s supposed to be cold and then is like fuck it lol. Fine.
I like how burton made the bat mobile seem comfortable and serene to drive in
This deserved a third film. But when studios act dumb you punish them. Keaton was right in turning forever down if he couldn't get burton. Those pair were a dream team.
Saw returns recently and my god its aging well. Some say the story is all over the place and yes that could be true but when the cast and style is so spot on it really doesn't matter. Keaton will always be the best batman to me.
Batman Forever was more of a comedy movie, which is why Michael turn it down. I don’t blame him, Batman isn’t a funny guy as Ant Man or Thor.
Visually speaking Batman Returns looks like a movie that could come out in the 2020's.
Also, Burton's Penguin is my most favorite DC/Marvel villain
Alfred cares about Bruce feelings.
An old Klingon Proverb "Revenge is a dish best served cold."
Its going to hit me when i see Keaton by himself in The Flash without Alfred.
Keaton and Gough had the best chemistry.
I hope he gets an honorable mention.
Micahel Gough my favorite Alfred. 🙌
RIP my childhood alfred michael gough u will always be remembered
The art direction in this film looks very much like BTAS.
Well, TAS is very heavily inspired by the Burton films, so makes sense ^_^
@@andreasvb1142 Yes also seems they inspired the comics along with Adam's west show. They were so smart and ahead at the time to create a show that took all the good things of batman put them together and created a masterpiece.
Alfred always been there for Bruce since he was little boy and he was good role model for Bruce
So true.
The complexity...in this scene, we thought batman is in doubt of penguin because of his instinct and wisdom tell him something's wrong. Well, he IS the greatest detective after all.
But in the final showdown, the movie gives us a hint that batman might felt jealousy toward penguin. Because he is a freak without a mask but still loved by everyone. (for a while, at least).
Because of that, he didn't WANT to believe penguin is a good guy from the beginning. He just couldn't accept it. That's why he tried to dig up his past, and eyeballed him with so much suspicion and despise...
I get emotional at how much I love this character...especially in scenes like this. As much as I love Affleck's portrayal, nothing will ever come close to being as subtle & nuanced as Keaton's is to me.
P.S. 1:41 That cowl is ridiculously beautiful
Yeah, definitely prefer this Bat suit than the suit in the first film.
No one can top Michael Keaton.
And no one ever will.
The calm night, snow in gotham, and batman just cruising, patroling...
A masterpiece. Sheer masterpiece.
The look on his face is PRICELESS. 😂😂😂😂 0:33
Sugar Ray He's like "Huh" lol
I imagine I get a similar expression when my people ask me if I'm good with them leaving early for the day. Often enough, it was my own boss trying to get to some ballgame. Over the years, I've probably only declined a few times when it was absurdly bad timing.
Such a simple scene but this is probably one of the most human Bruce Wayne/Batman moments lol
I must say, I prefer this look of the Batcave than the look in Batman (1989). Actually, this look reminds me more of the Batcave in Batman: The Animated Series, which of course premiered the same year as Batman Returns. Wonder if BTAS based their Batcave on this design.
it blows my mind that Michael Gough was Alfred Pennyworth, and in the 1960's was the Celestial Toymaker in Doctor Who and at one time married to Anneke Wills.
It wouldn't surprise me considering they took inspiration on The Penguin's monstrous design for their version.
BTAS took a whole lot of inspiration from Burton's films~
BTAS was made in response to the success of the 1989 film. While Bruce Timm and co wanted to go with their vision of the Dark Knight, the Burton movies did still serve some inspiration. Like the Art Deco Noir aesthetic, the batcave, the gadgets, and Batman himself. The Watchtower Database, a channel dedicated to the DCAU, did an entire video on the subject.
2:04 Batman looks badass
“It’s cold !” - Bruce Wayne
It's fishy something or other, sir...it's supposed to be cold.
@Brandon Brooks i know, i was just being overly dumb for a larf
@Nightmare1398 he should of made it hot since it's freaking snowing outside and even colder in that cave!
"It's vishychoisse, sir." (Beat) "its supposed to be cold." 😅
one of my candid favorite moments of all time.
That score. Movie was under appreciated
People say these movies don't show Batman as a detective but here we see otherwise.
This was the first ever batman film I watched and its still my all time favourite
I just adore the over all design of this movie. It's weird and brooding and Gotham is so strange and outlandish that it actually feels like the kind of place batman could exist
0:28 😂 like how Alfred stood there as if he knew Bruce would react indifferently towards it.
😂now I’m picturing Alfred plotting whilst making the soup
When Batman walks the entire city out, that's the most relaxing way to stalk people.
As a kid I always thought that was oatmeal he was eating 🤣 this scene has lived in my head for 30 years. I randomly searched for it today wtf is wrong with me 😂
Batman rollin' up to the archives just to flex on Oswald... Thuggin'
The idea that The Penguin is a child killer isn't made a big enough deal. He's such a disturbing character.
I love Tim Burtons batman world 🥶🥶🥶🦇🦇🦇
I always loved this very small scene that shows the humanity of both of them. Bruce will sometimes catch himself still being the little spoiled rich kid whom Alfred raised, pampered and nurtured. As soon as Alfred made a small bit of sense, Bruce accepts it completely and forgets about it instantly because he trusts Alfred more than anyone in his world. He didn't give his opinion on it or make any remarks about it. He instantly humbles himself and continues eating the soup. Almost feeling foolish because he caught himself being a snob for a split second 🤣. It shows Bruce's humility and instant sense of logic always overcoming his own desire.
This whole video is more batman then anything after even though the Christopher Nolan movies are better this is batman to his core the acting the scenery the bat mobile and the bat cave Keaton and tim burton nail batman from the comics batman 89 and batman returns will always be 1# to me
Wow, Michael Gough’s voice sounds similar to Jeremy Iron’s!
I think both were theatre actors which might explain it
@@josephmullin5845 Or maybe Jeremy Irons also drew inspiration from Gough's portrayal of Alfred.
When I was little I thought Alfred was saying "It's fishy sausage" That looked like neither fish nor sausage, nor would I want to eat a fishy sausage cold.
The batmobile sound effect is really cool
They can make all the new Batman movies they like, and it will never change the fact that Michael Keaton WAS Batman. Not sure anyone will ever be able to wear a batsuit and convince me the way Keaton did.
Michael Keaton is so awesome at Batman and Vulture when I thought he would never return in a superhero movie I was wrong
The atmosphere is so great😍
When you go on the Warner Bros studio tour near LA, they show you the exact spot where this scene of Batman watching Penguin in the library was shot.
Only in the burtonverse could the batmobile drive around that fkn casually
Michael Keaton Nailed This Role!!!
atmosphere is dripping 💧 in this whole scene
Unpopular opinion. Keaton was a better Batman than Bale.
Its very popular actually
The real unpopular opinion is that Keaton is a better Bruce Wayne than Bale, and I think he is.
I have my own Alfred. I call her Mom
Alfred reminds me of my Grandma
Keaton deff a master at changing the voice
Love this scene. It shows Batman doing proper detective work without wearing the suit. Following his gut and studying on a potential threat before he goes in to stop it.
Just like in the Animated Series. Bruce has his Bruce Wayne court and his Bat voice. Can't wait until this Flash movie comes out.
im 30 years old and barely remember this but im surprised at how ahead of its time it is. cant wait to rewatch these
I love the look on Michael Keaton's face in the close-up after Alfred tells him it's vichyssoise. He's like, "wtf is that?"
2:05 i realy like how batman look like in this scene. Such a badass look
(Talking to Alfred via video chat)
Batman had FaceTime before FaceTime came out.
Batman was ahead of his time.
It's called IRC and has been around since 1988
Michael Keaton #1! Christian Bale #2....... the others 😝.
9INER EMPIRE Umm Affleck and Kilmer were also really good
@@RShadow12 uhhh.... Different strokes for different folks 😀
affleck and kilmer were good as batman but their movies arent that great
Danny M I actually like Batman Forever and Batman V Superman.....I know, unpopular opinion
That scene always reminds me of whenever I'm writing, my mom brings me soup to my desk, always with a sarcastic comment like Alfred's.
jean carlo cardenas carrillo lol well at least you got some food 👍
Something about the Batmobile driving in the snow looks Hella cool .