MSI Z690 ACE - $600 worth of 'GOLD', yet missing ONE THING! [Creator's Perspective]
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- In this video checking out the MSI Z690 ACE, it's got all the bells & whistles, but still missing one crucial thing to me as a creator. Let's see what $600 worth of motherboard gets you...
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0:00 Intro
0:27 Sponsored Segment
0:56 Unboxing [What's included]
3:08 Design
4:29 Power Connectors
4:54 Fan Headers
5:20 Debug LED
5:32 RGB Headers
5:55 Front Panel USB connectors
6:42 Other motherboard headers
7:32 M.2 Heatsinks
8:30 M.2 Slots & speeds
9:49 PCIe Slots
10:24 IO [inputs & outputs]
12:14 Any compromises?
13:14 Power delivery [Power stages]
13:35 Conclusion & What's missing?
14:45 DDR5 missing modules
15:19 Your opinion
Anyone know any CASES that support 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2X2 front panel ports? 🤔
I believe the Corsair 7000 series, Corsair iCue 5000T, and Cooler Master HAF700 all have dual front USB 3.2 Geb 2x2 connectors.
@@tradcatpat2385 The 7000D only has 1 front panel USB-c connector.
@@j340_official Aye, you're right, I misspoke, there are 2 USB 3.0 connectors in the case.
@@tradcatpat2385 no worries. I’d like to see a front panel usb4 / tb4 connector. On both cases and motherboards.
The new lian li o11 dynamic...u can add extra front panel. o11 dynamic evo
I am happy to get this high-end board for $249 today. It is like a steal. Yeah, you can not beat this price point. If it has 10Gb ethernet and three 5V ARGB headers, it will be awesome !!
I ordered one yesterday, cant wait to get mines
Yes~ I am still waiting for 990 SSD 2TB on sale for $99 I just missed a couple of days ago...@@yahboi1873
Does it support 14700k right ?
Yes, it does as long as you update the Bios firmware to run 14th gen CPU's, I just bought the bought at $249 as well. @@balaganesh11
@@balaganesh11 You may have found answer already but yes it has LGA1700 socket which works for 14700k
Either way I got one half off it was a steal. I just wish I knew if it would fit in a Fractal North case for that black/gold with walnut look
Building my Z690 Ace machine now with 12900k. Board is insanely awesome. Coming from the Z390 Ace.
What GPU do you have? I'm about to make the plunge.
just got one and lovin it for sim racing.....thanks for the review
No problem 👍
the board is pretty awesome. I like the 5 x M.2 slots. I'm looking for a Z690 board and this could be a contender. So far I'm split between ASUS ProArt and Gigabyte Aorus (one of the many versions of that board)! However it is spendy also... (And you're right - you should probably expect a 10gb Ethernet capability for that price, although how many home users are using 10gb LANs, never mind speeds to ISPs?)
THANK YOU! It is on my top of the hit-list so far. I have seen pics, and I thought the gold paint looks cheap. LOL The pics were bad, and now I know it's gold and gorgeous! I have so many hard drives loaded with movies that I would use all the SATA connectors. The thing is, I might be better off with the external ones, because the internal ones run all day, and windows does not treat that very well when you have a bunch of them. Subscribed!🧡
Thanks for your nice comment! ;)
That’s 24k gold my friend and it looks nice in person.
Lian Li Case supports 2 USBC Headers for the front, with the Extra pannel that you can mount on the top and on the bottom of the case.
I think the corsair aio's use internal USB headers. I usually break them out to a rear pcie slot if I have the space; the part is usually under 10$ and everyone likes more USB ports
The decorative aluminum block next to the ATX power connector apparently functions to reinforce the PCB near the DIMM slots and ATX power, to prevent flexing.
Great video. A comparison with the Asus Maximus Ace would be great because they are similar in makeup and price. You would get a lot of views on that because no one else has it
Just bought this mobo for the header ports for the obsidian 1000D which has 2 ports for usb c and 3.0
I want to see a build using every port possible.. just to see it.. lol
Haha, great idea!
New Lian Li dynamic EVO case can get a second I/O module, and adds a second type C connector..
Just got the z790 version. It looks less blingy now, no pretty dragon and no manual! I had to download and print the manual. For the price this was a slap. I should not have had to take the time, paper and toner to print over 70 pages myself.
phew. finally the full usb possibilities in form of "two" 2.0 and also "two" 3.0 headers. thank you better late than never ;)
I love it when a motherboard gives me butterflies in my stomach!
But I'll wait for a few years, the 5950x is still like new to me. But DDR5, whatever new thing Intel has in 2025 and the (then) newer versions of this board sound like just the thing for 2025!
agreed.
I'm using the Z590 Ace Gold edition mobo, & the DDR4 kits coming out right now are both insanely fast, with huge capacity options, AND CHEAP!
You can get G Skill Trident elite 5333Mhz kits for less than 300 bucks, & other brands you can get 4000MHz + speeds in 32GB for less than 225!!
The DDR5 Memory issues are still putting me off... combined with BOTH the damn price of the memstix & the damn mobos!
A decent kit will have you a grand deeep before you've even bought a damn CPU & likely sitting on only 16GB of memory for 4 figures!....
HARd PASS.....for now.
Cheers
thnaks
Just wondering if you know about Gigabyte Aero D z690- thunderbolt, 10gb lan, pcie 5. I basically found it by accident. It costs less than MSi ACE even after amazon import fees from US to germany. Anyway your videos helped me researching parts for my first build! thanks
Just picked one of these up with a 13700 intel chip. Thanks for posting your info about these things! Snagged the board for 239 bucks! It aint the newest or fastest, but its gonna be a hell of an upgrade over the 4770k im currently rocking lol
Did you have any issues come up with booting
@@axelpadilla4533 Nope, Fired right up for me boss.
I bought this Mobo because of your video .. i am building a new High End Gaming PC for the first time in 9 years. I will be using 32 Gig of Corsair DDR5 6400 ram and MSI 3090 TI Supreme X , 32 inch 4k MSI QD monitor 144 htz , I 7 12700k cpu and Seasonic 1300 watt plat prem psu . and windows 11 home ... i am coming from a I7 4470 k and 1080 ti gpu and old 2k monitor .. i am hoping to see a huge difference in gaming .
Hey I know this is an old post but how has this motherboard been?
if I want two M.2, one for OS and another for data, first and second slots will do, right?
Do you think this would fit in a lian li o11d mini?
MSI has gaming cases that say they do. Makes sense now
MAKE a video on ROG EXTREME motherboard Z690 one from the creator's perspective It will be really helpful cause I want to make a build with it.
Corsair 1000d has 2 USB cable and 3.0 front panel connectors if you use a single system
Very nice mobo. If Raptor Lake wasn't around the corner I'd def give this a consideration but I think Ima wait for z790 mobo's.
THANK YOU. I thought it was much farther off.
@@Davethreshold So did I but AMD plans to release their new chips in July/Aug and Intel is ready and waiting to answer w/ Raptor Lake. Normally I think the release would be Nov/Dec but Intel doesn't want to give AMD room to breath and since AMD is having chip shortage issues by going thru TSMC; Intel has a huge advantage because they have their own fabs but the downside is that Raptor Lake might skyrocket in price. AMD's 5950x has finally dropped to $600. I'm hoping the new Raptor Lake i9 13900K doesn't exceed $900-1000.
@@heyguyslolGAMING My other thought is the Alder might be selling cheaper a month later. I am TIRED of waiting. LOL If you look around, we can now find everything to build an Alder Lake, but that DDR-5 ram is still way up there. At least it's available.
@@Davethreshold Yeah if you need it go for it. Word has it that Raptor Lake will be compatible w/ z690 mobo's so you could sell and upgrade if needed. Based on the testing ive seen from reviewers DDR4 is still the better option in most cases. Framechasers was saying that in order for DDR5 ram to start being more competitive the speeds need to start hitting around 7000-8000mhz. Currently z690 mobos top out at around 6600mhz. I think those speeds are probably another year off but not as long as what it took for DDR4. So buying a DDR5 mobo now is mostly pointless for the majority of ppl. I just despise the fact that mobo manufacturers only deck out the DDR5 mobo's and gimp the DDR4 boards. It seems much like a forced crowd funding campaign if you want a decent mobo. Thats another reason why Im waiting for Raptor Lake.
that board is sexy, trident z royal would look sick
Nice review. One correction, though: according to MSI's website, all of the M.2 slots are not in fact gen 4. The bottom left one is gen 5. Also, it's very common for motherboards to have PCIe lanes shared between M.2 slots and SATA. On most boards, using certain M.2 slots means you can't use SATA. Sometimes they share lanes with the PCIe slots as well. It's very important to get clear on those limitations before slotting an M.2 drive so you don't end up gimping your GPU or whatnot.
Gen 5 on the z790 not the Z690
@@jamesbinnie8765 Does using the Gen 5 for SSD down the GPU PCIe Gen5 to 8x like some other MBs do?
Hey i need help, i have this motherboard and can you tell me how to get display out of this motherboard without discrete Nvidia or AMD GPU? I'm using this with intel 12900k. And I am using LG 5K ultrafine thunderbolt 3 monitor. Please help
I found one but the airflow sucks. Not something you could use for any hi end GPU. Keep that in mind if you order a case. With 2 ports.
Can this motherboard BiFucation nvme expension cards?
is this support igpu and pls make video on ace max and include igpu support in review pls. and ROG Hyperion GR701 support 2 usb 3.2 2X2 ports
Does PCIe 5.0 works for PCIe 4.0 cards? Looks like the slot is little bigger than PCIe 4.0
what happened to intels thread rippers the x299…?
This board says AMD on the back right corner?
I just bought this on Walmart for 198.00. I hope i can find a dashboard for the front of the case?
Great looking MB with awesome features. I would rather have 1 less front panel USB C header and a 10G NIC. For me not having the 10G NIC is the deal breaker. I can get a MB with close to the same features with a 10G NIC for $100 US cheaper.
What motherboard? I don't want to compromise on a MB this one delivers well and I plan on setting up a NAS/NASPC? going to copy that one Linus did a little bit ago or Linus and Andy I just got the 3090Ti and now I need to get the rest of the goods thought I'd be waiting in queue longer. BUT if their is something $100 less that is awesome was kinda wanting a gigabyte board since my GA-X99-UD3P which was my compromise board but only because the MB I wanted had been discontinued and I wouldn't get a good warranty on it or something along those lines. Been running my 5930K for a long time everything still silky smooth without issue but seems like MSI or ASUS are the boards to go to with the 12900K or KF and the DDR5 going full enthusiast on this can't wait to do some 3d modeling in VR. I'm done blabbering can't wait to hear back from you also any ideas.
@@ltcshow6175 The MB is the ASUS ProArt Z690-Creator WiFi 6E LGA 1700. The MSRP for the MB is $479.99 US, but just like with GPUs, I have seen it for as high as $868.68. Right now most places are out of stock of the MB at the MSRP, but they claim they have more coming in the month of April.
@@mj1s735 I see a lot of issues by people for that board
@@PsyrenZero I don't own one, and don't think I would ever get one. But if I did I would still get it over the MSI because of the price and features. And I would just have to hope I get a good one. I see it rated 1 to 5 stars on Amazon.
Going to wait for the 12900ks n then pick this mobo up
lol, we never really did find that 7th Sata port to hell. .
Two USB C would be a evo with the additional USB module.
corsair obsidian 1000d have 2 usb-c 3.2 gen 2 connectors and also 2 usb-c gen 1 frontpanel connectors
Thanks for that!
I don't use any sata drives, just 4 SSD's.
@Tech Notice witch is better MSI MEG Z690 ACE or Asus ROG Maximus Z690 Hero?
Go for MSI, Asus board got some issues
The new lian li o11 dynamic...u can add extra front panel. o11 dynamic evo
Oh, that's interesting....
@@theTechNotice ............. Cant you just drill a nice & pretty little " USB C Siized hole" somewhere & use an extension/add-on extension....
like the.......
: Lian Li PW-IC01NH45 USB 3.1 Type-C Gen2 Cable h teeteepee (whack whack colon)amzn(dot)to(whack) 2y7lIrp
One of the M.2 slots is PCIE 3.0. They are all not PCIE 4.0
It's the 3rd slot, as numbered from top to bottom, left to right (in case anyone passing by was wondering).
No HDMI?
We need this for AMD
Review was good but missing one thing :-P I just happened to come accross this on amazon and saw 2 ethernet ports and the listing did not mention why. So I started searching to see why there are 2 gigabit ports. Does it work like a load balancing or failover? That would be awesome. I think I would look go for this to build a PC that would run 27/7. I switched from desktop to Laptop 3 years ago. I keep my Laptop on all the time like my PC and the fan conked off. The bearings just melted I guess. So Now I put my laptop to sleep when I sleep.(As I grow older I slowly stopped downloading gigabits of stuff that I would never use and I had to keep my PC on to keep seeding them for ratio ;-) )
I have not kept up with motherboards for long cause I live in a city where you only can buy what it the fast moving stuff. Now online almost everything is available.
I think it is a pretty big feature to have a dual wifi ports that have failover or load balancing or is this something that has been around for some time now.
Yes you can build LAN teams/VLANs with Intel PROSet Adapter Configuration Utility tool (part of the normal Intel Lan driver). Can do adaptive load balancing, fault tolerance, link aggregation etc.
What is a good mobo that supports 2 GPUs at 16x?
Threadripper platform.
good looking board, still rather the pro art design
that is pretty but I guess if price is no object...
It would look so good with an rtx titan
I'm diggin your "Ferrari/Lamborghini" systems videos. Great stuff for to spend big money... but having pc systems where creativity and content creation became the only thing at you must thinking of... and not the bottleneck of the system you are using.
That said... i know you are mostly oriented in video creation (Premiere, AfterEffect etc) wich i use... but there is another branch of contents creation that can have benefits of the systems you show in your videos... and it's the MUSIC creation where certain application are pc-mission-critical and can stress a pc a lot! I mean ... DAW... i mean recording/tracking, i mena... using a lot of VSTi instruments (like the sountrack composers do), or using lot of effetcs plugins on a lot of tracks...
There are two main bottlenecks: how many VSTi instruments the system can run in real-time... AND - most important and hard - the lowest latency you can have while you put plugins WHILE you are recording a track (let say you want to give to a performer, vocalist, etc a personal cue monitor audio with effects without the performer perceive any - or like any - latency in the headphones).
This is 60% -70% on the side of the audio interface you are using (the long short: PCIe internal audio interface cards like the RMEs are the best in low latency and quality)... and 40%/30% is in the pc system you are using.
And you need a lot of video monitors (2 or 3 or more) too for that application... because you have tracks timeline... mixer... plugins GUI... etc...
So... why not a series of videos that show the best of the best systems and components for the music creation?
Sounds awesome! Thanks for your input, I've been thinking about it a lot, my main bottleneck so far has been how to create a benchmark system that works both on Windows and on Mac. If you have any ideas/tips for me, please let me know. NB! I don't get comment reply notifications, so if I don't reply best send an email or DM on IG. :)
@@theTechNotice well... i'm not the best on the Mac side (i use iOS mobile stuff just because are the best in MUSIC apps). So... i'm a pc (old!) guy... but many composers and music genius nowdays are PC guys too (Zimmer, JunkieXL... and so on). So... i'm not the best to find an in-between benchmark for both the worlds. Anyway... your videos are in the track of "push the limits" of a system selecting the best hardware on the market today... so... why not some videos about that?
its selling for $218 right now! great for an 6 layer pcb mb
It’s 8 layers
So MSI took away onboard RGB from the ACE mobo? Z590 and Z490 Ace had RGB... So the ACE is similar to the Unify, except with gold accents? I think not including the Aquantia AQC113 10 Gbps lan port is a shame for this motherboard. It is more expensive than the Asus z690 Pro Art, but the Pro Art comes with 10 Gbps lan...
The Ace is over priced.
Totally agree. 700 EUR in Romania.
My Z590 Ace Gold edition is sans RGB (not headers... just no mobo flash)
What is the Best Value Intel 12th gen. based motherboard for Creators ? By Best Value I mean Best Bang for your Buck.
Thew gigabyte Creator board (I think its the aero - but they shuuffled the nomenclature for this release)still has a few special features ideal for creators, particularly ones using a drawing/animation board device (i forget the proper name - but you know what i'm, getting at)
might've gotten a subscription if he properly enjoyed peeling those more with some close-up and or slow-mo... jussayin
RAM/XMP UPDATE: I have this board now waiting for my build. I called MSI, and their Tech said the RAM slots will take almost anything you throw at it and attain full XMP profile. I now have two 32GB 6000 sticks for a total of 68GB. I asked him a loaded question: Would it take 128GB of DDR6600! He basically said he didn't see why not. He said they update the bios as new sticks come out.
so the board can handle 2 sticks 6000mhz ddr5 ram?? i read on the website is's just first slot can handle 6000mhz and the rest just 5600 max, but cmiiw because i need the answer too
@@berysatria7227 What was the result then? is it only 5600 max? Wonder if z790 is best option, then...
@@hunterjg777 im still gathering some pc part so i not try it yet 😔
@@berysatria7227 Yeah I know what you mean. In time
MSI is the best.
It's kinda disappointing to see that this board doesnt support 40 watt USB fast charging and the general lack of USB 2 headers, especially at this price when the Asus Proart z690 Creator Wifi could do it while being cheaper. But it is good to see the attention to the VRM and power delivery, the 2 8 pins make this a great over clocking board, I cant wait to see this board with gkill trident Z royal when that rolls around
I still like the ASUS ProArt Creator MoBos a little better. Maybe they will be beefing those up as well?
I like the Asus Maximus Apex better but not the proart. This is a better motherboard than the proart
@@kpv123 I hadn’t heard of that one yet. I will look into it for next build. Thanks for the tip!
it looks gorgeous but war is worse
if only it could do 1x16 and 1x8 at the same time...
Give me the Asus ProArt with all the I/O but DDR4, and I’ll be content. DDR5 is grossly overrated for most prosumer applications. I’ll reconsider when the Z890 gets released and DDR5 is well established and mature.
Must be a chip shortage.
You are giving wrong information in your promo clip, when you state the Windows 10 license key works for Windows 11 when upgraded from a licensed Windows 10. This is not true. The license will license Windows 11 without a previous license, and if you have Windows 10 licensed and upgrade to Windows 11 you do not need a new license.
I would really like to see a MB aimed at serious creators. I don’t care about RGB, gold, sparklers, toaster oven, whatever. $600 is a laughable for only having 2.5GBPS
I'm with you on that seems like we have almost no choice but do do RGB now a days. Either way it has to look good or the wife will slit my throat in my sleep she also has to look at it.
@@ltcshow6175 2x 2.5gbps = 5gbps.... no?
=)
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Another issue is simply that it's an MSI board.... MSI should never be used/bought due to their farming their own products and scalping them
Mobo yang kek begini doank yang ada Emas nya 24K lagi
Thank you for showing us a nifty piece of hardware, that I will never use. Price is $1200.
500
Lol. It is black and gold kinda like a rapper.
Do you realy think people are gonna buy a 600 Dollar motherboard in times of war??????
Do you realy think people are gonna buy a 600 Dollar motherboard in tomes of war????
All the reviews are like 2.7 out of 5 saying its trash the usb ports beeak so fast or don't work people have issues putting ram in and losing video dont buy it even for $250