Camera Shoulder Bags compared: Peak Design, Lowepro, Vanguard, Think Tank, Manfrotto & Wotancraft
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- We compare camera shoulder bags from several manufacturers, some of them requested by you! Peak Design, Lowepro, Vanguard, Think Tank, Manfrotto & Wotancraft. Find out which camera shoulder bags liked most and why.
Watch our camera backpack comparison here:
• Best Camera Backpack f...
0:00 - Jordan's old bag
0:42 - Intro
1:28 - Bags Tested
3:25 - Chris' kit
4:02 - Packing the Lowepro
5:27 - Packing the Wotancraft
6:39 - Packing the Peak Design
7:52 - Jordan's kit
8:48 - Packing the Think Tank
10:00 - Packing the Vanguard
11:19 - Packing the Manfrotto
13:31 - Lowepro features and design
14:47 - Wotancraft features and handling
15:37 - Peak Design features and handling
16:46 - Think Tank features and handling
18:01 - Vanguard features and handling
19:00 - Manfrotto features and handling
19:50 - Weather resistance
22:41 - Jordan's pick
23:39 - Chris' pick
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I'm not a photographer, I'm a musician. However, I LOVE this channel! I'm learning so much, but what I enjoy most is the chemistry between Chris and Jordan, these bros are hilarious! I appreciate that his is not a channel of clinical and stuffy reviews. You fellas are great!
big fan of chris and jordan as well. muso as well. j.
@@djrbfmbfm-woa thats wassup! Stay creative :D
I am much more interested in the entertainment aspect of DPReview videos than the actual information.. Chris and Jordan have the best chemistry!
Woah. I've been looking at all kinds of bags to hold my camera stuff for the past week or so and I even went back and watched the backpack comparison they did last year. And this popped up and I was like, "when did they do a shoulder bag comparison" and realized they just uploaded it. Incredible timing! Now please do more comparisons of other types of bags.
Another great real world review with added entertainment, a wonderful combination. Other bag reviewers should take note, it's important to see what fits and how well rather than a time wasting tour of an empty bag!
Thanks for your engaging overview and for (sort of) picking us!
Biggest omission from this is the Tenba DNA messenger series. Great bags!
Seriously, you guys get better and better with every Episode.
Great video fellas! I doubt that I would have discovered the Wotancraft bag/brand without your coverage. I just ordered the 10L.
Nice selection lads good video and of course the beginning always gives me a laugh 🤣- great work thanks for the entertainment and the usual video 👍
Chris, you’re right: most of us began with a LowePro. And some of us stick with it still! After twenty some years I’ve yet to wear one out, so now I own six LowePros.
My only complaint against the brand is that they discontinue so many excellent bags, and often with no obvious replacement.
P.S. a camera bag shouldn’t be sexy - it should be so unsexy that nobody would steal it.
Vanguard messenger bags and backpacks are epic. Absolute versatility!
You guys do the best job. ALWAYS ... Love this channel
I have the Peak Design and a Vanguard (not the one tested). I want to like the Peak for its style, but I usually take the Vanguard. It just works better for me. The Peak seems pinched where I want space, hard to access when I want easy access.
I have a small Wotancraft for use with small kit. Great bags.
Good review, enjoy your show.
Should’ve added the Tenba DNA messenger! Amazing!!
thank you for another great review
These shootouts are definitely my favourite
I got the wotancraft 7L just because of this review and.. IT IS FANTASTIC! Thanks 👍🏻😊
Great video. I had more bags than I could fit in my closet! Always looking for the perfect one! I had to donate some to a HS camera club. I finally settled with a Think Tank Retro bag--for now!😀
Great video!
Chris with a machete and his kids sketcher. lol
One of the things that bothers me about shoulder bags that you didn't test is their tendency to tip over when you set them down. My current one will dump the contents and get dirty. They should outlaw velcro. If you ever do an event work and need to silently get gear out of the bag...
The bags I tested other than the Lowepro did have a case of the tipsies. The Peak is especially prone to this. Now the latch is solid so I wasn't worried.
Think Tank has come up with the best velcro flap solution imo. I don’t use my Ret 5 much anymore, but man, the flap system worked so well. I left a little velcro exposed allowing the flap to stay closed, and then just the slightest rip sound when opening.
@@mdougherty0980 Best velcro solution is Tenba's "silent" version.
@@SL-jo4om as an owner of a Tenba messenger with the silent velcro feature, I’d have to say the Think Tank is still much better due to the level of control the user has on the amount of velcro being used. My Tenba makes loads of noise unless I engage the silent feature perfectly, which does not happen when I’m on the move.
@@mdougherty0980 I have a Think Tank Retrospective, which I no longer use. Reducing the amount of velcro noise is nice but cumbersome and also results in a slightly less secure bag. I prefer having the velcro always secure AND always acceptably silent. I might use the Think Tank if absolute silence was required.
I love the Wotancraft brand. I got their Trooper just before the Pilot series was released. It’s a bit heavier due to use of leather, but it is very functional and has a nicely balanced, understated luxurious aesthetic. Looks and works great both in the city and on the trail.
The Pilot bag has a far superior bottle carry option though, almost tempted to get it just for that.
I would argue there is no reason for regret. The Trooper series is just awesome. I don't think there is a better, more beautiful shoulder bag out there. I just moved from Fuji back to Canon and my biggest regret is that the Trooper S is no longer a particularly useful size. The M still works great though.
Time to go shopping for that Vanguard. I'm impressed.
Thinktank and Wotancraft for me! GREAT VIDEO!!!
This made me chuckle a bit as I had just purchased the 10L Wotancraft bag today after walking around Manhattan with my PD 6L sling and realizing it just did not have enough space. Well done video
I used to love this kind of bags, but every time after buying realized that it just kills my shoulder fully packed. So, I switched to a backpack. Even 6L Peak Design Everyday Sling - not the biggest one - packed with heavy gear after a full day becomes a burden. Can't imagine wearing a 10L Sling fully packed the whole day. And definitely, 13L Peak Design Everyday Messenger bag when packed with gear is just too heavy for one shoulder.
6L Sling is the best option for a light day carry. I used to think that buying a bigger bag doesn't mean I would pack it in full and the size would just give me additional freedom-in vain. Every single time a bigger bag was fully packed or even overpacked and was killing my shoulder. So, now I limit the weight with a bag size. Now I mostly use Peak Design 6L Sling for a light day carry or 30L Backpack for more demanding tasks. Anything in between is an awkward size: shoulder bags are too big, 20L backpack is too small.
These are good points , I have a couple of older Thinktank retrospectives , they have huge shoulder pads.. The later ones look a little more versatile but I’ve used the 30 for events and never had any trouble getting gear in and out but they are hard on the shoulders if you have too much gear over a few hours. On the other hand for street when I get by with just one lens and camera they are great for their very “not a camera bag” look. I went back to a small backpack for anything in the real outdoors (a Lowepro Flipside 400AWii) although honestly I don’t use the Flipside feature unless its wet underfoot. It has a slot for a tablet or thin laptop but I never take these in the field anyway. Certainly a lot better balanced on the shoulders and being retired lacking the strength I had in my younger days. Less is definite more, for me now !! I do have a sling bag as well but being a dyslexic I have trouble getting it on because I could never remember which way around to put it over my head and feel a dick in public wrestling a tiny bag :)
great video , thanks
Love Chris' Snowtrooper gloves. Ona bags forever for me.
Don't even need a bag, but when I see new dptvreview video just clicking it
Kind of surprised that Jordan isn't including a dedicated audio recorder in his kit. Looking at that Vanguard bag, or the slightly smaller model, the 36.
Chris had a glimmer in his eye while reviewing that Wotancraft. He was already daydreaming of his first fly fishing trip with it.
Love was in the air.
I never expected a bag review to contain the phrase "like an old burlap sack in the Great War", but when you think about it, that's what the Think Tank Retrospective looks like. In fairness, though, the Retrospective is a nice bag, though a little heavy (at least the Version 1 model that I have). I like Think Tank products, but it's nice to have a real world and real look view of these bags. Thanks Chris and Jordan! You are entertaining and informative. Great work as always.
#suggestion Bellingham S3. It’s a very iconic over the shoulder bag I use with my film cameras (Contax iiia, Rollieflex T, and Pentax Spotmatic). Love the look, comfortable and carries quite well all I need for a day out shooting).
PS: I KNOW this is DP Review (as in digital), but sometimes you need to give out a little analog love!). Good review today!
As always an entertaining video! I would love to see a minimalist bag comparison. I find myself carrying smaller camera systems (Leica/Fuji/Ricoh) and an iPad Pro to edit on the go. Some thing in the 5-6L range!
Love the wotancraft bag - very modifiable with the additional pouches and full of suprising storage areas! I love using the additional pouches as stand alone lens bags or a small shoulder bag for phone, etc. So that the whole heavy bag can be left in the car when necessary.
Great reviews guys, covered everything I needed to know….now can Costas get an Urban disguise for me please?🤣👍🇦🇺😎
I have the Vanguard bag and love it. I keep my camera gear in the top compartment and drone in the bottom. Great for event coverage and run-n-gun shooting. It’s my favorite field bag.
I have a Timbuk2 large messenger style camera bag that I got on sale from B&H photo years ago for under $50 and still love it.
I've been loving the Tenba DNA slim. I like that it doesn't scream "camera bag," the velcro is quiet, and has solid hardware. Worth every penny.
I have both a Tenba DNA 13 and a DNA 15, after trying out virtually every shoulder bag in the stores. I started with the 13 but when I had to start taking a larger laptop, I switched to the 15. Now I carry the 13 when I don't carry my laptop for the lightest load. Either works well as an under-the-seat carry-on as well. Perfect bags for me! I love that I can slip an l-bracket between the outside of the back and the cushioned cube interior and keep everything safe and convenient.
Chris, you are the best, as always! Without you this channel is dead.
I have Vanguard backpack and really like it very much, so I am not surprised why people like the shoulder bag too.
Nice review.
Excellent, excellent, one of the few reviews that consider the need for a security measure against "urban heavy foliage" that might want to creep on yer gear; Great Chris
Although that machete is rather small and curved downwards, seems more like an asian Gurkha Knife made to cut through pesky foliage from underhand positions
Love the intro XD
The Vanguard comes with a matching fanny pack, dad jeans, and a pair of white New Balance shoes. It may be a great bag, but it looks like it was designed by the people that designed Dodge/Chrysler minivans from the 1990s. 😂😂
In the UK Vanguard are a seller of cheap/modestly priced hand luggage. I didn't know that they had branched out into "bags" but then I haven't looked at them lately. To me $100 is still a high price.
The biggest thing I look for in a camera bag is something that doesn't look like a camera bag.
The second thing I look for is a bag with an 18% grey inner liner.
The 18% gray liner is an interesting thing to look for. Do you actually find yourself using it in the field when you shoot? If so, do you still shoot film? I used to look for lens cloths in 18% gray.
During the last twenty I made several attempts to replace my old Domke F2 with something better. But incidentally I still grab the Domke for anything which will fit inside. I waxed, washed and rewaxed it several times, took it to the beach without the inserts but filled with towels, water, food and books just this very day and it does much more. It looks like crap but still fits like a glove, gets bigger or smaller as needed as there are no hard inserts dictating how it fits to your body. The hooks are not as easy to work with as anyone would love but 20 years of trouble-free usage is an asset not many types of locks will give you. Old but hardly surpassed!
My Wotancraft just arrived yesterday!
OMG i cackled when you mentioned the Camera Store business cards, I am always in the market for a new bag.
Great video. Domke still my pick.
I too think the urban disguise is one of the best shoulder bag. Still loving my original 40 and 60.
Been using the tenba shoulder bag. The mini review is that everything is great but very heavy.
Same for MFT camera and two lenses (Tenba 7), but to be honest it's quite expensive for very basic minimalistic bag. It does not have rain coat, mesh pocket under the lid is completely useless cause everything falls out of it, shoulder strap has no padding. But it looks quite good and it works. My old LowePro is quite heavy itself and some rubber parts are falling apart after 8 or 10 years of use.
Loved this review. I'm a backpack guy and it works best for 99.9% of the type of Photography I like to do. That being said, I have been looking for a shoulder bag for those rare occasions that it makes more sense for a shoulder bag. I'm even more surprised that I 100% agreed with your picks (among the 6 six bags that is, excluding the discontinued one 🤣🤷♂️). I also get why he happily accepted that bag, you like what like and it's depressing and soul crushing that you can no longer replace it after you wear it out. It has happened to me many times over the years, always wished I was able to buy a stock pile of it so I and my great-great-grandkids would be able to have a supply of it😁🤘🤷♂️😉! Another great review guys!👏👏👏
I actually love my Peak Design 10L sling (V1). pretty comfortably fits my Tamron 28-75, 70-180, Sigma Art 50 1.4, a9, and my tablet. Outer pocket can hold batteries/filters as well without intruding on the interior space. I've fit a xt2s transmitter in there as well when I was fitting a speedlight into the main compartment. Just a surprising amount of space in such a small bag.
0:57 he is standing in the bag-yard
I use the Think Tank Retrospective 30 because I like to carry a lot of gear, and I love that I can fit my R5, 14-24, 24-105, 70-200, and two other lenses such as a 35/1.4 and 85/2 macro, plus tons of room in the front pouches for adapters, filters, extension tubes, cards, etc. I also like that I can fit all that gear and have any of the lenses mounted to the camera and it all still fits. Plus it's comfortable and durable.
I have a discontinued LowePro Pro Messenger 180 AW which has a fatal flaw: when wearing it, the straps pull the top edges of the bag inward, causing the entry to the main pouch to sort of collapse in on itself, so I always have to use two hands to remove and insert lenses. Does the Retrospective 30 hold its shape well so that you can simply put a lens inside without having to spread it open with the other hand?
The Domke F2 is the most comfortable shoulder bag I've ever used. I've tried others over the years but still have and use my F2.
Yup, for actually working out of a bag, domke is pretty unbeatable.
Ive been using my Thinktank Retrospective 7 (og model) just about every day for nearly 10 years. Best bag ever.
👌👌👌 review.
I have Vanguard Uprise II 38 for about 6 years. The bag looks like new and it is amazing what you can stuff in there. It can hold 15in laptop with charger and mouse, Nikon D4 with 24-120 attached, 70-200 f2.8, 50mm, two flashes, triggers, memory card holder, some extra AA batteries, two books and a notebook.
Only problem with messenger bags is if you load them up more than you should you can't carry them around on your shoulder. And you can remove the the cube and use it as everyday/laptop bag which I did quite often and even fit some smaller DSLRs in there as well. Vanguard makes amazing value bags!
Agree with Jordan that the Urban Disguise is the best shoulder bag. My first Thinktank was a UD70, that made me switch from Lowepro and later add an Airport Takeoff, Navigator, Logistics Manager 30, Shapeshifter 17 and Turnstyle 20.
Thumbs up for the Wotancraft. Would love to see a couple of custom colors, like a weathered green or weathered light purple.
Cheers gread video.
I actually found my best camera carrying setup after yerars.
I am using an insert for my hiking bakcpack from Deuter.
Very simple, by far the lightes option to go and fits everything nicely.
I tested the Tenba (which I ended up using), one from the compay URTH that aquired or changed the name from GOBE and the PEAK Design insert.
Anyway good video. liked all of your comparision vidoes so far.
In my opinion the best way to caryy a camera with a few lenses the insert is the best way. As camera gear backpacks are way to heavy with all the features they come with.
It took years to figure out that I do not need them.
Good hiking backpack + insert + small tech pouch is all that I need to carry camera + lenses + batteries + filters etc.
Next shootout: Essential Photo Machetes.
Defend yoyr camara and open up a path to success.
Perhaps even a slash-out
I am on the fence also for a new shoulder bag and really cannot make up my mind rn. For bigger jobs I love (LOVE) my old-but-still-in-excellent-condition Tamrac Pro12. The lovely thing is: it fits everything bar the kitchen sink. The downside is: it fits everything bar the kitchen sink, which may or may not have resulted in me WAY overpacking for what I was doing. So something a little smaller is called for. This video gave me a few more ideas, so thanks a bunch! :-)
I went thru the slingbag options 6 months ago. And considered many of the bags shown. But one of my criteria was fitting a D500 with 70-200 f2.8 & zoom like my Tamron 100-400 G2 with lens hoods attached laid horizontally no fuss ready to grab and shoot. As can grab complete setup ready to grab and go in 2 seconds. Many of these newer bags failed for that need.
Ended up with a Think Tank Sling-O-Matic 20L that was $140 and discontinued. But found slightly used for $70. Can change sling configuration quickly to left or right shoulder. Sliding off shoulder to waist open compartment nice steady platform for changing lens. Or pulling out the D500 beast with f2.8 zoom lens ready to shoot. Which fits nicely horizontally. The problem for me with backpacks is the delay from getting to gear and lengthy process of swapping out lens,etc... Messenger bags was what I used for years but found their limitations also annoying. Found most sling bags to small for my needs. But the Sling-O-matic perfect blend of size and function for fiddle free fast shooting when needed.
These two are like Laurel and Hardy! Great reviews, and funny with it. Brilliant!
Also why no Billingham?
I second Billingham, they look spectacular, are expensive given they're hand made in Europe, but they're built to last with easy replacement parts.
@@SaniyaKhan-ru5dr i have owned a few. And currently my lighter camera loadout goes in the Hadley Pro. And my bigger loadout in the Wandrd Prvk 31. Both are lasting me years now without any complaints.
I got an urban disguise too, but I love my retrospective 30 much better. Bought both long before these reviews
You could have used the external carry straps on the peak design bag to strap your machete on, hey?!
Thanks for the great video, informative and entertaining as always!
I have 3 Lowepro, 2 ThinkTank, 3 Vanguard. Bought Vanguard recently, instantly like them and will add some more in my collection. Well priced, smart design, decent protection, surprisingly durable for a guy like me who always overloads my bag. Vanguards wins.
This is how to review bags! Love seeing everyday loadouts be loaded in and how it actually works out vs. just numbers on stat sheets- highlights why Im not a massive fan of peak design. Two bags I currently rely on are the Promaster Cityscape series backpacks and slings and Tenba DNA/ Tenba Shootout series if you should ever get your hands on them for the next bag reviews.
Bags are a personal thing. That said, I agree about Peak Design. Their bags always seem to look better than they work while being more bulky than they need to be.
Great video! I have a Think Tank 20 bag, and its very hard/impossible to get something in or out of this fabric, squishy, cool looking, side camera bags. In reality, you have to stop what you're doing, get it off your shoulder, and extract the, say, lens you need, etc etc.
Can you guys do a review on the best pants to wear for photography and video?
Tan. That's it.
How about the best socks?
Bow river outfitters, ross reels, Orvis and Loop jackets... nice assortment of really nice gear :) not tooo camera related though :D
otherwise a good review of the bags and dafinitely woth a look if you are in search of a new bag! nice!
I recently switched to a Saddleback leather big mouth duffle bag and cover my camera gear using padded lens wraps. I really like the lens wraps as they allow me to use pretty much any bag I want.
Thanks for the thorough review! I'm curious about the computers though.
Chris, what do you use the tablet for in the field?
Jordan, same question about the laptop?
Also, for anyone having trouble with the strap slipping, rub some silicone sealant onto the area it usually falls on your shoulder. Let it cure of course and it will be nice and grippy.
I normally use a 15 inch laptop. The Gigabyte Aero that you saw Jordan borrowing. Which means when I travel it's backpack time for sure.
As to Manfotto, I had similar experience with one of their Bumblebee models: bulky yet not very space-efficient. Good weather-proofing, though.
Nice video.
Any of the bags wide enough for a 6D Mk2 with battery grip + 24-105mm?
Cheers, and Merry Christmas to all... 🥳🎅🏻
Keep up the GREAT work. 👍🏻
Doesn't peak design has those extension strap for tripod/sleeping bag? You can hold your machete or even light saber on that
Yep, and the side pouches stretch way out. I've put much bigger water bottles in mine.
They also have the Capture Clip with perfect spots to place it so that your camera is easily accessible outside the bag and frees up more space inside.
But can you put a machete in the side pouch or on a quick clip?
@@niccollsvideo if you can drill a hole for a threaded 1/4-20 hole into the handle or the guard, then yeah....a capture clip would work perfectly.
Plus there's literally a travel tripod holder built into the underside of the top fold that would fit most camping/ travel size machetes with ease.
nobody else is doing as much as these guys
That's damn right!
Bet you didn’t know that under the front slide through on the Wotancraft, there is a hidden zipper mesh pocket for valuables, passport etc
I got this bag and it’s the best bag I’ve ever used……
I'm surprised you did not review any of the messenger camera bags. They really are good bags and by far my favorite.
No Billingham’s?
Must be a video on second best camera bags…
Yeah, I would have liked to see a Billingham bag. I used to lust after one in their Sage canvas with Chocolate trim. At the time I was looking, they were chronically out of stock. Then I discovered the Wotancraft Trooper and I've never looked longingly at another shoulder bag since. I am, however, always looking at new backpacks.
I liked the Atlas Packs T-shirt!
National Geographic W5310 3-way bag would also be a solid choice. Can only fit a 14 inch laptop but the machete could be strapped to the bottom. Built-in backpack straps transforms it into a daily commuter in a second. I've been using it for more than 3 years and it serves me well!
I was never blown away by my Wotancraft. It just felt like a brand making a solid bag that wanted you to feel like it was some Gucci quality good. Well made, but just miserable to work out of. I’ve yet to find a bag that is better for active work than my Domke, it just does the job and never feels too heavy, even with a full set of medium format gear. I love my Peak Design when I’m mostly traveling and need more protection than convenience, but most days it’s a Domke for me. Sold my Wotan, Billingham, Ona, etc.
Interesting. I love my Wotancraft bags (a Trooper M and a Trooper S). Best shoulder bags I've ever owned, functionally and aesthetically. Which Wotancraft bag did you own?
@@timothylinn it was a trooper M. The opening action was stiff even after being broken in, the features people liked (like the gusseted cover) were something I didn’t particularly find useful, and the bag was so stiff that it didn’t conform to the body well. The craftsmanship was also far lower than I’d find acceptable for the price, lots of untrimmed threads, the leather quality was mediocre, and similar issues. It was a pretty bag, but it wasn’t a bag I’d want to work out of, and the hubris of the brand just made it all the easier to pass on it.
Thank you for this great video
I wish you add model Number for each bag in the description .
old School Tablet with what I grew up with…
#METOO ❗️😂
Witty and informative as always😂🤗
Than for an excellent review.
I own Sling10L and Backpack30L of Peak design for Nikon systems, and well manageable. Only my struggle occasionally is Sling10L, which doesn't fit for all my gears, I.e. need to choose wide oriented, or tele photo.
Nice glas table!
Great review. However, I am a fan of the "old school" camera bags - the Crumpler brand of canvas bags. I generally buy them used online for less than $40 and I now have several of various sizes (6 Million dollar bag, 7 Million Dollar Bag, etc.). Yep, I go cheap on used quality bags - so I can use the $$ that I saved for buying camera and lenses.
Really enjoyed the review - it gives a good idea of how the bags scale to the gear as well as showing functional considerations. But it was too late for my purchase, which was for a small kit. My Tamrac Apache 2.2 accommodates an APS-C with 3 lenses, as well as battery / card space. Tamracs seem to have hardly any reviews. It's a pity because they're compact and well thought-out. They're also inconspicuous for street phototgraphy as well as well waterproofed for being in unsheltered landscape. It'd be interesting to see how you guys compare small kit bags. However, do any of your viewers have small kits?!
My most prized possession? my 44 year old Domke bag. Bought it new waaaayyy back. The cameras and gear change, but not the bag.
For me it either very light with small lens or full kit but then with backpack 🎒 then you can fit two Machetes. Nice video 👍
I would still prefer the older generation Temba DNA Messenger bags. Also has a top opening system and they have magnetic buckles that work great. I've had this bag for many years and use it daily. Still going strong!
I don't get camera bags.
The first thing I did with my camera bag was to take scissors to the top flap and cut it off. Now I can pull my camera out without having to open the stupid flap.
My next problem is my new camera: a 1981 Hasselblad 500CM with a 50/4.0 Distagon CF. So far, the only thing I've found to do with it is my gym bag. It rests on my sweats. It's the only bag I have that has a wide enough shoulder strap that I can stand the weight of the camera. You'd think an FF mirrorless with 3 primes would feel just as heavy, but the 'blad is a real clunker...
Translation: Hey! Thanks for the reviews!!!
Three thoughts:
1. Think Tank's Urban Disguise series was great. I also hate that they discontinued it.
2. Think Tank's Retrospective series seems to have replaced it. Most people seem to love the Retrospective bags. I think they're hideous.
3. Wotancraft's shoulder bags are just awesome. I own two different sizes in the Trooper series. I've never owned a bag I've liked better.
My favorite 2 bags I use are peak design 10l v1 and the hex dslr sling
That tablet .... that's super funny :D
haha, doodle pro... love your work, keep it up guys
Thank you for the machete test. I really need it for my specific kind of videos I do.