Someone mentioned it might have been borrowed from an AYK setup but honestly I have no idea 🤷♂️ the only car I ever had with a 2-speed was a mini mustang but it looked different than this…
You have no brakes with the Optima because of the two speed. For the two speed to work the first gear is connected to the layshaft by a one way clutch, so the layshaft can spin faster when the second gear engages. When you brake and the motor slows down the second gear disengages then you have no brakes because the design allows the layshaft to spin faster than than the first gear. Two speeds were a brief thing in the mid 80s when we only had 1200mah and 1400mah batteries, but died out the moment we had batteries capable of running faster motors over the length of a race.
Dude that’s exactly what I was trying to say in the video except that I didn’t understand how any of it worked 😂 So is there also a one-way bearing on the double pinion as well? I guess I still don’t fully understand 🤣
@@wadeskelton7585 in the two speed gearbox, the faster gear is loose on the layshaft and is only connected to it when the clutch is engaged at high speed. The low gear is only attached to the layshaft by the one way bearing, so when you pull the throttle the one way bearing let's the low speed gear drive the layshaft. Both gears are constantly driven by the pinion, the high speed spur gear is always driven faster than the low speed spur by the pinion, the speed change by the gearbox happens when the clutch opens and grabs onto the high speed gear, making the layshaft spin faster than the low speed gear and the one way bearing let's the layshaft spin faster than the low speed gear.
I'm so jealous dude, I sold my Kyosho ZXR when I thought I was done raising, worst decision lol. I'd love one again. I just bought a rereleased Kyosho optima mid, and trying to build it back to how I had mine build before. Super expensive these days lol
Man that mid is propper old skool 👍 love the split battery. Its something im only just realising they did back then, that lazer zx 👌 its my mission to find a nice zx and/or zx-r next year. And get it out on track 😁
Rich, look for the torpedo Optima, as run at the 87 world's. It was a way to get more weight forwards on the chassis. It originated in the original Lectricar and Slot cars Mirage 1/12 chassis.
I was so bummed out when I got my first sg Coyote which needs a battery setup like this only to find you can’t really buy them already made up. I had never made my own pack before that - something you guys probably did all the time back in the day!!
@@wadeskelton7585 i never made up my own batterys, the model shop where i lived could do all that 😁 used to buy the loose cells then they would do them as either stick or saddle packs 👍
Duuuuuuude!!! That Optima really floats my boat! Both awesome Kyosho's there. Merry Xmas brother. Love your work!! And the green Bash 2.0 shirt- Awesome fit.
Both or gorgeous cars! Enjoyed watching them run. That field is PERFECT for those cars! I always think about that Optima that did not like the dirt on an old school baseball field! The saddle packs look so good. Would they scrape if you were running it on a rough surface/get scratched up? Those little punks need to get off your lawn!
I think they could scrape actually you’d prolly need an undertray of some sort to keep those batteries protected not to mention the zip ties from getting sheared off. I totally thought those kids were gonna be more persistent but the bugged out before I left - they showed me a secret way in/out so my fat ass doesn’t kill myself climbing that fence 😁
Thanks for the early Christmas treat! 2 BEAUTIFUL legendary cars from Kyosho, totally enjoyed this video! Between the 2, custom TOM definitely stands out, I mean, that neat chain drive, silver machined side frames, solid LeMans motor and gorgeous clear cover for the gears… Plus 2 yellow stick packs for the retro vibes.. what a MACHINE! 👍
Miss ya bro so happy to see your new clips and get blown away every time! Very nice t shirt on you bro! So much good memories in all of our 80 and 90’s.
That 2 speed optima mid motor is sweet! It doesn’t look like the 2 speed from Kyosho. Very interesting. I love it!
Someone mentioned it might have been borrowed from an AYK setup but honestly I have no idea 🤷♂️ the only car I ever had with a 2-speed was a mini mustang but it looked different than this…
Pretty certain it's ayk. Used to own a boost with factory 2 speed
Wow, saddle packs. Remember soldering the packs direct right before a race . No plugs lol
I had no idea that was a thing but it makes total sense!!
I remember this
Then you’re as old as we are 😃
You have no brakes with the Optima because of the two speed. For the two speed to work the first gear is connected to the layshaft by a one way clutch, so the layshaft can spin faster when the second gear engages. When you brake and the motor slows down the second gear disengages then you have no brakes because the design allows the layshaft to spin faster than than the first gear. Two speeds were a brief thing in the mid 80s when we only had 1200mah and 1400mah batteries, but died out the moment we had batteries capable of running faster motors over the length of a race.
Dude that’s exactly what I was trying to say in the video except that I didn’t understand how any of it worked 😂
So is there also a one-way bearing on the double pinion as well? I guess I still don’t fully understand 🤣
@@wadeskelton7585 in the two speed gearbox, the faster gear is loose on the layshaft and is only connected to it when the clutch is engaged at high speed. The low gear is only attached to the layshaft by the one way bearing, so when you pull the throttle the one way bearing let's the low speed gear drive the layshaft.
Both gears are constantly driven by the pinion, the high speed spur gear is always driven faster than the low speed spur by the pinion, the speed change by the gearbox happens when the clutch opens and grabs onto the high speed gear, making the layshaft spin faster than the low speed gear and the one way bearing let's the layshaft spin faster than the low speed gear.
Happy Christmas Wade! Loving the Kyosho’s! 👌🍺
Thank you James Merry Christmas brother!!!
I'm so jealous dude, I sold my Kyosho ZXR when I thought I was done raising, worst decision lol. I'd love one again. I just bought a rereleased Kyosho optima mid, and trying to build it back to how I had mine build before. Super expensive these days lol
Never too late to get back into RC brother but you’re not lying this crap is getting ridiculously expensive 😂
Removing the servo plate and taping (using high quality, non squishy tape) the servo direct was 'the' mod back then.
I think I used crappy tape, gotta take it off & try again 👍
Another interesting vintage car, never knew they had 2-speed in these electric buggies.
I certainly didn’t either back in the day!
Man that mid is propper old skool 👍 love the split battery. Its something im only just realising they did back then, that lazer zx 👌 its my mission to find a nice zx and/or zx-r next year. And get it out on track 😁
Rich, look for the torpedo Optima, as run at the 87 world's. It was a way to get more weight forwards on the chassis. It originated in the original Lectricar and Slot cars Mirage 1/12 chassis.
@@techspeedrc i’ll do some digging, kyosho is totally new to me, but going to be running kyosho mostly this year 😁
I was so bummed out when I got my first sg Coyote which needs a battery setup like this only to find you can’t really buy them already made up. I had never made my own pack before that - something you guys probably did all the time back in the day!!
@@wadeskelton7585 i never made up my own batterys, the model shop where i lived could do all that 😁 used to buy the loose cells then they would do them as either stick or saddle packs 👍
Duuuuuuude!!! That Optima really floats my boat! Both awesome Kyosho's there. Merry Xmas brother. Love your work!! And the green Bash 2.0 shirt- Awesome fit.
Thank you Jason man I hope you’re not mad at me when you see that Maxima you’re gonna rebuild for Keith 😆
Both or gorgeous cars! Enjoyed watching them run. That field is PERFECT for those cars! I always think about that Optima that did not like the dirt on an old school baseball field! The saddle packs look so good. Would they scrape if you were running it on a rough surface/get scratched up?
Those little punks need to get off your lawn!
I think they could scrape actually you’d prolly need an undertray of some sort to keep those batteries protected not to mention the zip ties from getting sheared off.
I totally thought those kids were gonna be more persistent but the bugged out before I left - they showed me a secret way in/out so my fat ass doesn’t kill myself climbing that fence 😁
@@wadeskelton7585 yeah I am for sure less and less graceful doing stuff like that!
Great cars Wade!
Thank you brother 👍👍👍
Nice run with both buggies! Very interesting layout of the Optima! Super cool to see them out running! Merry Christmas!!
Hey thanks Adam I was so stressed out 😄
Merry Christmas brother!!
Thanks for the early Christmas treat! 2 BEAUTIFUL legendary cars from Kyosho, totally enjoyed this video! Between the 2, custom TOM definitely stands out, I mean, that neat chain drive, silver machined side frames, solid LeMans motor and gorgeous clear cover for the gears… Plus 2 yellow stick packs for the retro vibes.. what a MACHINE! 👍
Thank you T I’m still hoping the creator of this car will happen upon this video and chime in - this guy is my hero!!!!
Go Wade happy to see these 2 nice cars
Hey Gary hope you’re doing well brother merry Christmas!!!!!!
Miss ya bro so happy to see your new clips and get blown away every time! Very nice t shirt on you bro! So much good memories in all of our 80 and 90’s.