The best line in the movie is when CPT Keating walks into the TOC, and nobody is paying attention to him. He taps his rank and asks, "Is this on? Is this working?". That is the military in a nutshell.
Our deployment dog was named "Daisy". Imagine like a small, short-haired Golden Retriever mutt. She had a brother who was identical that we'd named Captain, but the MPs rounded up all the dogs on base, including Captain, to kill them because they said some were rabid. We hid Daisy in the TOC so she survived, then got an NGO to have her sent back to the States where one of our FET sergeant's family adopted her. I got a counseling statement and extra duty for hiding Daisy, but whoopity doo.
I’d hope Daisy is doing well, you did great in saving her life by having her adopted by someone else you’re familiar with, even though you’re gonna be reprimanded with worse repercussions,
I don't even know you but real shit you got a friend in me (lol no creep shit) but that action shows so much character and good spirit in you..I know someone may call me extra or dumb whatever idc but that's some true captain america stuff because in my opinion that's part of serving I have a deep rooted family tree in military so I see that as part of the duty too.... but most importantly I just love dogs you saving the dog was enough but you being in the military too and the dog had a brother golly my heart lol.. thank you for your service and God bless you and the family
Fuck yeah brother you're my kinda soldier. A sheriff's department in a neighboring county had a new department large carpet made for their community facility and instead of "In God we trust" they mistakenly put "In Dog we trust" and people went nuts trying to buy from them. My Lt made quite a few calls but nope. The counties Sheriff ended up auctioning off the rug for charity. They got I think 15k for the rug. I have 5 pup's and 3 cat's and I just can't imagine life without them. I have erns with ashes from the 8 I have had since '05. I try to adopt over 5yrs old because most folks pass them over so I don't get as much time with some as I should have & though it tears me apart when they cross I know I will be with them again. Just fantastic job man thank you.
Friend of my fathers was telling a story about how units in Vietnam would adopt dogs similar to Hank because they hated the Vietnamese. They were just kept around as food for them. So when Americans fed them and took care of them they became extremely protective and were great for early warnings of the enemy.
This was my unit. I was at Keating for a few months and left six weeks before Oct 3 to go back up to Squadron (Cav Battalion). Your IDF tactics were slightly off. But we did have planned targets (Putting Green, Northface, Diving Board). We also had a B-10 that would harass and probe us almost daily, and the mortars couldn’t get him. Trying to adjust indirect fires on to a shallow peak or ridge takes a lot of finesse.
@Promotional Inc. Yeah, that’s how all the units that went there felt. There were already plans to close it down before our unit even got there. But incidents both further north and with Beau Bergdahl diverted resources and prevented the base closure. It was originally planned out and constructed by the Provincial Reconstruction Team. A bunch of army engineers that obviously had no tactical sense.
I found in my 3 or 4 years as a 18Z that most team Commanders defer to the 18Z but the LT's always wanted to show their competence by taking over the 18Z's command. That's why SF went with WO's as assistant team leaders, more experience and maturity levels. We found that most WO's were prior NCO's to start their carriers!
It’s crazy how civilians thought the taliban fighters were dumb. They may have less tech than the US but by no means are they dumb. This fight shows this all to well. It was coordinated and well thought out. Really enjoyed this movie and it’s nice seeing guys that experienced similar things commenting on how accurate it is.
I think as Americans we have a bias that we think like that and we can just overwhelm them...we don't realize the kind of fight they have in them and these dudes in flip flops have been doing this for 30 years vs a bunch of 18 to 23 year olds..I'm all American but we need to actually figure out insurgencies and the people or it it will never work
@@robertgoodwin2787 100% agree. It’s like we forget these people fought the soviets with less than impressive weapons and caused them to pull out. That wasn’t luck, we helped with some weapons but no one has really ever conquered Afghanistan and held it. It was a costly mistake I hope the American military learns from.
It runs pretty deep on just how arrogant and ignorant a lot of people are to the enemy we fought there. And its worse when you consider that our generals and politicians were privy to the same incredible arrogant and ignorant bias as the common American. The greater irony is when people tell me that I can't stand up to government with my AR-15, but then turn around and ignore the fact that Taliban essentially thrived despite American supremacy in Afghanistan...
@@JohnDoe-wt9ek completely agree we have multiple examples of people having limited arms but terrain knowledge and local infrastructure beating or at least wounding hi-tech militaries. An ar-15 still shoots bullets at high velocity and until told otherwise that can cause casualties. The taliban were nothing if not creative and with much less tech than the US won a war of attrition. In the same way we wouldn’t obliterate Afghanistan we definitely wouldn’t do that in the states and that gives the common less armed person a chance. The Ukrainian are basically doing that right now against an enemy with much less morality than the US military has. IEDs were very effective against our military because as the name suggest they were improvised by people with advance knowledge of their terrain and the ability to improvise and be creative.
The main motor guy in the movie was playing himself. His name is Daniel Rodriguez. After the Army he played football for Clemson and in 2014 was signed as a free agent to the St Louis Rams. Pretty dope story. I ran into him in Nashville last year and talked to him for awhile at the He’s a good dude
As a former PSYOPER, I concur 100% with you on the “transactions” during KLEs. Shit used to piss me off so bad when they’d be pissing on your leg while telling you it’s raining.
@@jacobcoryell8258 I was a Psychological Operations Specialist in the Army. It’s another Special Operations career field. Look up MOS 37F for our tasks and duties.
I watched this movie with my wife. When I saw the STUPID place the outpost was located, I was yelling at the screen, “This is why I got out of the Army!” We signed up for a job, which will likely be dangerous at some point, I get it, fine. But putting all of our lives in danger for no f*ing reason is what always made me get out after 8 years. And they keep doing it again and again. My outpost in Bosnia was basically the Bosnian version of the same thing. Luckily no one attacked us.
@@warrenharrison9490 it was intentional, read the outpost by jake tapper goes into so much detail of when the The outpost was created until destroyed after the battle, haven’t finished it yet because it’s long af, so many lives lost for that shithole
The outpost is probably the best depiction of how life is in the army while on deployment. From the dumbshit we did on our downtime to patrolling and army terminologies. This movie really got it down as far as OIF and OEF depiction. If you were regular army or military you would really appreciate this movie for how authentic it is. That outpost from a strategic stand point made no sense what so ever.
I enjoyed the movie (I'm not or have not been in the military, just want to be clear) the only problem I had was I just couldn't buy Orlando's accent lol
@@Synthetic-Rabbit every generation has there depiction of the military. When it comes to regular conventional army, this movie was spot on. I still wonder today who thr retarded higher ups allowed them to even set an outpost there. Only explanation is to send an infantry unit that wants a Purple Heart and CIB for all.
Every1 knew it was a horrible location. But, the region they were at, it was the only place they could put a FOB, because it was the only terrain they could get supplies in.
@@CSpad There was no reason to be there AT ALL is the point. Who cares about supplies to a base we shouldnt have even been in to begin with? This is exactly why we lost.
@@SmokyOle spoken like a supply troop with zero experience w/ intelligence let alone the history of Afghanistan. No shhitt, higher ups fubar'ed a FOB.. There was no winning that " war ," as you want to call it. We were not at war with Afghanistan. We were at war with the Taliban.
We were mostly Scouts 19Ds at Keating. Some Marine attachments, ANA and other combat elements. Captain Yllescas was an Awesome leader. We were there 08-09. We did have TRPs around the FOB. It was a shit hole and so many TICs. Thank you for your videos.
I heard a story from I think Vietnam (modern day), where two soldiers had a fight, and they made them hug each other in front of everyone for like a really long time, like hours.
Having Ptsd i get powerful anxiety and a shit feeling in general at night some times this channel seems to instantly calm me down and make me feel better i appreciate that
Damn I was hoping they’d react to the scene in the TOC when cpt keating was trynna get everyone’s attention and he tapped his rank and said “is this thing working ?” And a soldier said “army made it, nope”
When I was in Afghanistan from '17-'18, I was attached to a different battalion from my brigade, so I wasn't there to witness this, but one of my closest buddies told me that pretty much the entire staff of the DFAC on their FOB was fired because one of the workers got caught using a cell phone to correct mortar fire. My FOB was pretty much quiet in terms of what happened within the wire, but we hosted a lot of medevac for the Afghans who were working in the area around us.
At my first duty station I was in the 60mm mortar section in the weapons platoon of a rifle company. We had a guy who was a complete goof, no common sense, but he was an artist with that mortar. Once when we went to a range we saw a brand new target out there, an old half-track that hadn't been shot up yet. The machine gunners got set up first and started hitting it - we could hear their rounds hitting but couldn't really see them. We had two mortar squads, so we had two of our three guns with us. The goofball was gunning on the second gun. The lieutenant went over and told him, "I want you to nail the driver of that half-track." The guy fired one quick round to adjust and hit about five yards from the vehicle. He tweaked the bipod and fired his second round - it landed on the hood of the vehicle and blew out the windshield. He turned around and told the lieutenant, "There you go, Ell Tee." The lieutenant shook his head and said, "Nah, he ducked. Try again." The kid looked at the lieutenant for a second, then went back, made another tiny tweak to the bipod, and fired again. The round hit in the front seat and we saw the steering wheel sailing through the air. He looked up at the lieutenant and said, "Did he duck that one, sir?" Another time there was a water bull out there with the top hatch open. On his second round, the same guy dropped a round inside the water bull. He was never going to get above lance corporal because he was totally lacking in judgment and constantly did stupid things. But he could play that mortar like a fiddle.
This movie has always reminded me of my time at FOB St Michael. Great review boys! I really like this movie. Abel had me dying with the hand joke! 🤣😂🤣😂
The movie did the best they could without loosing the audience. The book this movie was based off of had multiple interviews with family members, emails and added information for better context. Definitely worth a read. Clint Romesha (Medal of Honor recipient) wrote a book called Red Platoon about his experience. I recommend them both.
Another great video guys! Its like hanging out there with yall. As an 11C, yeah we use a MBC computer or a plotting board to come up with Elevation, deflection and charge. But yeah they would have had known targets and shifted from that known point. You are spot on though, after the first round hits, any adjustments are made if needed and you fire for effect. That system they show in the movie clip is a 120mm.
I was an 11c as well, brother. I love listening to FNG Academy but your right that's way bigger than an 80mm, lol. I was watching and saw that and started scrolling for your commemt! Lol.👍👌😍💯
Was a student at Clemson when this name "daniel rodriguez" started to pop up as a walk-on football player who was former military. he was one of the guys in this movie, I believe he was cast as himself in this. Quite an incredible story, some of his football tapes are still out there and, with Clemson's military tradition, was honored in a game for it. if i remember correctly, he wanted to play college ball because he and a friend of his that was killed in this battled talked about it while out there.
When you set up a base you set up a fires plan. You put out target reference points around the camp which are already dialed in with elevation, deflection and charge. You will also have a final protective fire plan set up, this is when all else fails and you must bring in fire close to or into friendly lines. I was a mortarman, loved the job. We had one of the best mortar teams in the 7th ID and 9th Inf Regt. The wheel Buck is talking about is a plotting board. Since they only have one type of mortar system in a static location, it would be extremally easy to have these things dialed in as well. I have not done this since the 90s. I shot 60's or M224. "High Angle Hell, death and destruction from above",
My dad said the same thing that it felt like how Nam was just different location. I was lucky when I was in, I was in the Navy and we just did figure 8's out in the gulf while the fly boys would go to runs. So never saw combat even while over there.
Re: Pets in the army, my grandfather was in the 22nd bombardment group during WW2. He told stories of how when they were in the Philippines the locals would bring puppies to the soldiers who would just love to have pets, they would get these puppies all fat and loved up then the locals would come back...take the puppies, and give them new ones. Eventually they realized that the whole point was to fatten the dogs up to be eaten and they stopped taking the puppies after that.
What I read about this movie is that 3 person was on set who actually fought in that battle, 2 advisor and 1 actually played a role in the film, but if I remember correctly not his own. That sure gave a boost to the accuracy.
Daniel Rodriguez was the mortar guy that was in the movie. His UA-cam channel has quite a few videos from previous firefights at Keating. Ty Charter who got a MOH was also in the movie. I believe there was 1 more
I laughed so hard when you talked about distinguishing the difference between incoming and out going rounds. That is so true. I remember many of nights playing dominoes or spades a new guy would panic because he heard something. We would be like sit your ass down. That was outgoing.
Brought my deployment dog "Dosier" home from Iraq in 2010. he was the best dog ever, he definitely wanted me to remember him. He passed away on my birthday September 13, 2022. I miss him everyday. 😢
The dogs that would go all night by the COP also became a problem.. They would start barking when we were trying to slip out to set up OP's at night. We eventually started to slip out through the back entrance after letting a team go out through the main gate. They would head one way and we would peel off trying to stay parallel with them going through the orchards. Dogs were still a problem though, they also got disappeared. A suppresor was used, and we were Army conventional Infantry.. We don't get suppressors issued. I think a drug deal went down just so top could handle it without getting the boys involved. We loved dogs, but we were blood hungry savages. I'm just glad it wasn't anybody in the squads that did them in. Cause going out there with DOC to pick them up and throw them in the fire pit is something ill never forget. Our platoon pet was a local dog, she also hated the locals. She would chace off the damn kids. She got into the ANA pet birds one day.. After that we thought she was dead, because we heard they took a machete to one of her legs. She showed up a month later... The leg was.. Badly infected, she wasn't going to make it. We knew she would follow the outgoing squad on mission. So the squad leader did the only thing we could for her... God fucking dog though. No locals were ever allowed near us if she was around.
I know right!? I would imagine those 120's were shooting at preplanned targets, and that's why it was 1st round so close. I always wish they would show accurate time of flight too. Those things take forever to come down haha
The dogs in Nepal are often territorial. What happens is that dogs get left or get lost away from their territory and then will tag along with people when they’re passing through. That way they don’t get attacked by the dogs whose territory they’re crossing through. Once they get to their territory, they often leave. It’s a pretty common story for climbers and trekkers. There’s a pretty good chance that this is what happened with Hank.
What a lot of people don’t realize about the two Medal of Honor recipients Clint Romesha and Ty Carter is that they were not infantry they were Cav scouts I believe bc they do not have blue cords when the received their medal of honors. I first realized when I was at the National Infantry museum when I graduated and they were both not on the Medal of Honor wall.
Romesha was a Tanker until he was deployed to Afgan. Carter was Cav Scout. Looks like a lot of the folks that got station there was a mix matched of folks. The one thing that gets me the most about this movie is how Ty Carter did what needed to be done even though he was pretty much looked down upon and treated like crap. Like at the end when he said about Mace when the lady said they must of been good friends. IT was more the opposite, but it doesn't mater when the time comes we are all brothers. Oh and look up what Carter actually did it was way more than this movie shown. Oh and no relationship to him having same last name.
@@likeorasgod I remember watching both of their stories and accounts of what happened on Medal of Honor on Netflix. Mogadishu aka Blackhawk down happened on my birthday Oct 3, 1993 as well as COP Keating October 3, 2009 😳 something about my birthday has bad juju. I’m currently deployed in Middle East now and my 35th is coming before I get home 🤞🏽
The part at the end with Carter talking to the head shrinker absolutely destroyed me. My wife and I watched this in the theater and she looked over at me seeing huge tears streaming down my face but no sound was coming out. She’d never seen my cry before in 15 years together. RIP brothers until Valhalla
Great review guys, I was sitting right there with you. Remembering deployments, the shooting the shit, the off the wall shit that goes on when you're bored, jokes we played on each other, etc. Shit dude you can't pull that on civilians without them thinking your a fkn weirdo. They just don't get it...damn, thoes were good times, thanks
The book is really really good (The Outpost, by Jake Tapper). Probably one of my favorite reads and I think it does the whole story of COP Keating a little more justice just because you can get so much more detail in a book. That being said, I did enjoy this movie quite at bit and I think they did about as well as they could have in the amount of time they had.
i think this movie did an incredible job representing the book of the same name. Clint Romesha wrote an amazing book (you can tell the writers of this script read it) called red platoon about his experiences. the scene where romesha is telling his team how he would assault keating was taken almost directly from red platoon. according to romesha, they literally discussed how the taliban was gonna fuck em up and exactly how they would do it constantly prior to them actually doing it.
Just wanted to thank you all for such a great series. Laughed, learned a thing or two. Very interesting topics( the real stories). I've been binge watching while cutting up my black bear for canning. It is true. If your going to work with knives your going to get cut. Especially watching guys drinking , criticing and telling war stories. Thanks for livening up a boring job. Cheers
What really ticked me off was the officers who put those guys in such a lousy position with poor support never really got punished for their absolute stupidity. They should have been busted in rank and never allowed to lead forces in combat again.
You think that's bad, My first depo to Afghanistan EVERYONE was basically driving older IFOR shit that had little or no uparmor at all, The DOD didn't want to lose the newer stuff to soon so they gave the patrols and stags complete shit to fight with. I felt bad for the 11bravos and 0311 I'd see all god damn day every day knowing that some of those guys weren't making it home. We had solid ROE up until 09 then shit got FUBAR, it was around this time that civilian complaints against anyone and everyone in a uni mostly enlisted were treated like the were the fucking gospel most times with BS statements and no corroboration or evidence. By 2012 NCO's who'd been IC a few times started getting mustered out across the board from If I recall correctly E-4 to E7's, I had just made Gunny prior to that depo and had two more years on my contract as an 0372 at that time. Gave a little over 17 years to the Corps had some good officers in the beginning and middle by my last two years there were several I not only couldn't trust but wanted to bunch in the face for their stupidity, not my direct CO's but further up the chain and definitely those from other branches who were new booty to the shit show and thought they knew more than guys who had already been IC 3 or four times.
Great show, guys! Sean's story about how an Apache couldn't find a PKM gunner...yep. As the actual battle was described, the air support came in and worked for like hours to root out all the Taliban from their positions in the rocks. Supposedly, there was a DSHK that got one or two of the Apaches. The pilots managed to get back to base and put a steel rod through the DSHK bullet hole to figure out the angle it was shooting from when he was hit. Not perfect for obvious reasons but he used that to figure out approximately where the DSHK was for when he got back in the fight and they were able to work with the guys on the ground to find and take out that gun. Just the stack of air support one of the camp Keating guys had to coordinate for like hours of runs and refuels. Crazeh! Awesome movie. Thanks for the show FNG-A!
Listening to this is great. The down time is the worst time for fights to breakout. I was USAF Security police and during the police academy we trained with USMC MPs. Building entry day was long and rough by the end of it we were all on each others nerves. After so many Marine put downs of the Air Force I did a scoop slam from behind on the most annoying Marine putting him in the dirt and was immediately dragged backwards in a chokehold. I broke out of it spun around and I was surrounded by jarheads. the instructors knew I was about to stomped into the dirt broke it up and had us doing push ups and mountain climbers until we dropped. But after that I became good friends with all of the Marines. Adrenaline and anger is a dangerous mix.
The mortar portion of the talk is pretty accurate. Handheld mode is where you aim with the thumb and squeeze the trigger on the trigger fire option of safe,drop,trigger and we also have 120mm mortars that are ground mounted.
I was at Keating with the 173rd. They did a great job with this movie with the exception that the COP wasn't so level. I served with Kirk in Afghanistan before he went to that unit, it was a kick in the gut for all of us back in Germany when we got the news.
I helped build Kamdesh as it was formally known. Bad spot. I was C Co 3/71 10th mountain. Review The Unit. Back in the day it was the best representation of the military I'd ever seen. Then it got too sitcom. So many great actors, please give this request some weight. You may actually enjoy yourselves
Lol it was the other way around, Bloom punched Bieber. And fun fact, the guy in the scene where he's asked about picking one guy to fuck, that's the guy who was the actual Lieutenant who took command during the attack.
This movie is based on actual events. One of the soldiers that was actually there “SPC Rodrigues “ played himself in the movie. Other Veterans also were acting. The Movie was filmed “correction” in Bulgaria.
@@josiahjackkalian You are correct, my fault brother. I confused it with Dean Devlin the Screen writer for the Series 1&2 of The Outpost, filmed in outside Belgrade in Siberia and in Utah. Was my sloppy work. . I know that Rod Lurie originally wanted to shoot in Morocco, but weapons were not allowed. I’m not sure how the heck I came up with Utah and a whole other thing lol.
Battle of Shok Valley "Operation Commando Wrath" 6APR08, two living MoH recipients were forged out of that battle. MSG Williams and SSG Shurer of ODA 3336. Both were initially awarded the Silver Star Medal but were later upgraded to the MoH due to the Pentagon's review of valor awards on 1OCT18. Unfortunately SSG Shurer was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer and died of it on 14MAY20. Battle of Ganjgal Valley 8SEP09 also forged two MoH recipients. Corporal Dakota Meyer and Captain Will Swenson. You'll probably remember this one because it was famous for the military trying to fuck Cpt Swenson out of the MoH. Cpt Swenson was extremely vocal on denial of indirect support and the command. His MoH paperwork was "magically" lost but eventually the wrong was made right.
I always recommend this movie as a very accurate portrayal of how things are. There's some little details or lines here and there that aren't, but as a whole, fucking close as you'll get without it being a documentary
Capt. Keating was written in as their original CO from whom the outpost was named after, just for brevity and more cohesive screenplay storytelling. But Keating was actually from a different unit from a tour of duty several years before. He did die from the truck falling off the cliff as shown in the movie.
It was not the only battle where two people were awarded the MOH. Dakota Meyer and William Swenson were both awarded the MOH for The Battle of Gunjgal where they worked together.
Funny thing about Orlando Bloom. I happened to be at Benning and came up on a bunch of what I'd assumed was a bunch of IAIT kids, and one was standing with his hands in his pockets. I was never one to scream or cuss much for stuff like this, but I came up and locked the 'solider' up and tell him he was lucky a CSM didn't see him doing this (I was an O2 at the time). I went on by and a civilian came bounding up and apologized, saying they were actors for a movie when trained for there. I told the guy the same thing I'd told the actor and didn't think anything further. Fast Forward to seeing the movie (as I knew some guys who'd been in the real battle back then), and I recognized the actor I'd lock up. I'd yelled at Orlando Bloom. But nobody knew him at the time, and frankly, he was still VERY lucky I wasn't a career cadre NCO, as actor or not, he'd STILL be in the front leaning rest!
I never made it to afghanistan, I was on standby in incirlik turkey, but this movie looks so damn spot on to this OP. I’m a history buff and these guys really embraced the suck.
Elevation doesn’t matter as much when it comes to shooting up hill essentially, it’s a mortar so it’s already high angle. They were also shooting known points so they had historic data for the target.
Had a puppy we rescued from the IA in Mosul that we saw literally punt across a field smh. Smoked the dawg chit outta that IA kid and named the puppy football lol.
Typically in an infantry unit, you got leadership, you got NCOs, and then theres allways that one specialist whos super fuckin experienced and just on his shit. Thats the dude that will openly question his leadership and everyone kinda shuts up and listens for a second. Theres one in every unit, and hes kind of a buffer betwee leaders and the joes
Outpost was great, they almost made it too realistic so some of the combat came off as boring. CGI effects for a lot of the bullet hits and stuff kind of didn't work. Also the Orlando Bloom/Justin Bieber thing was the other way around. Bloom dropped Bieber for talking about fucking his wife.
I was surprised by how much I ended up liking this movie. I watched it a few times. Also, Orlando Bloom actually got the better of the Biebs after the Biebs called him a bitch or something at a restaurant. Orlando Bloom hit him once and the Biebs bitched out and immediately tried to get out of there ha.
That dog was 100% an opfor plant HUMINT. erm... DOGINT asset Curt,he just finished his mission and just went home for debrief. 2 barks for no 1 for yes haha
Loved the movie, but it did have an "after school special" feel to it with some scenes. This is common to many Clint Eastwood movies, so I found it a weird coincidence that his son was in this. Caleb's performance in particular was amazing, as his often are. That kid's Oscar bound at some point.
We had an orphaned puppy in OIF1 al Asad. Our dumbass CO shot its mother. Another platoon was jealous and stole it in the middle of the night and drowned it. Sad day.
One of the things I think this movie does so well is show what it’s like for the guys who didn’t get 200 million in training and the best equipment. I’m so sick of the Navy Seal/Delta Recon dudes John Wicking through movies. I much prefer and generally would just like people to see more stories about 19 year old kids with the bare minimum in training and equipment being led by twice divorced 25 year olds and still getting the job done.
5:21 it was a pre-targeted position they already knew the range and elevation to be able to hit that spot It was something that the German mortar teams defending Normandy Beach did (from their pre-prepared defensive positions) they took training rounds pick certain positions then targeted those positions adjusting each round until they finally hit the exact spot that they wanted to and then they marked it on the wall , map or whatever what the direction, range and elevation was. Yeah they weren't just blindly dropping mortars all over the place. they were actually targeting specific choke points and positions of potential cover. To this day you can still go visit the surviving mortar pits and see the pictures of the different targets with the proper adjustments written under each one. that they painted around the circumference of the pit. They were so accurate that they were able to drop rounds within a 6 ft radius of their targets. it's still a good defensive tactic for mortar teams to this day Provided they have the time to prepare your position. it takes all the guesswork out of it.
I have been watching your videos for several months now. It was interesting to know Kurt trained in Nepal as well. I never thought US military personnel would go to Nepal for training as well. Interesting story about the dog as well.
We played a game when I was in naming adult film stars (and just general hot actresses), the first letter of the last name is the first letter of the first name of the next one. Pretty good movie, Clint Romesha is a freaking chad.
You have to register the mortar from each firing position. Once its close, the fister calls in and adjusts left right, then you over under depending depending on how far or short the round is.
Sounds likes an NHL game.. Tension builds, players get frustrated and boom the gloves drop. Netflix Medal of Honor has two episodes on Camp Keading. SSG Clint Romesha leading an assault to retake the main gate. Then SPEC4 Ty Carter running ammo and securing a wounded SM under fire.
'Red Platoon' by MOH recipient Clint Romesha ( Scott Eastwood's character in the movie)as well as Jake Tappers 'The Outpost' are much more detailed with a better time frame of events leading up to the final battle which occurred coincidentally just before they were to close COP Keating ( named after the character played by Orlando Blume). Definitely recommend reading both. Also recommend this '11 days and wake up' . . . on UA-cam . . .11 Days & A Wake Up | The Story of Chosen Company at Wanat
The best line in the movie is when CPT Keating walks into the TOC, and nobody is paying attention to him. He taps his rank and asks, "Is this on? Is this working?". That is the military in a nutshell.
My favorite is what comes after "Its army issued/made... nope"
Or just the whole being placed in an unwinnable position with zero chance of living through for basically no reason only to pull out 13 years later.
@@SmokyOle welcome to military life 😂
Then in the background you hear a soldier say " not if the army made it".
Disagree. That was probably the dumbest part of the movie. The 1SG, or senior NCO, would have told everyone to shut the f*** up.
Our deployment dog was named "Daisy". Imagine like a small, short-haired Golden Retriever mutt. She had a brother who was identical that we'd named Captain, but the MPs rounded up all the dogs on base, including Captain, to kill them because they said some were rabid. We hid Daisy in the TOC so she survived, then got an NGO to have her sent back to the States where one of our FET sergeant's family adopted her. I got a counseling statement and extra duty for hiding Daisy, but whoopity doo.
True hero. Hope you have Daisy both have a good life. F these MPs and big Army sometimes
I’d hope Daisy is doing well, you did great in saving her life by having her adopted by someone else you’re familiar with, even though you’re gonna be reprimanded with worse repercussions,
I don't even know you but real shit you got a friend in me (lol no creep shit) but that action shows so much character and good spirit in you..I know someone may call me extra or dumb whatever idc but that's some true captain america stuff because in my opinion that's part of serving I have a deep rooted family tree in military so I see that as part of the duty too.... but most importantly I just love dogs you saving the dog was enough but you being in the military too and the dog had a brother golly my heart lol.. thank you for your service and God bless you and the family
Nice job sir 👏 👍
Fuck yeah brother you're my kinda soldier. A sheriff's department in a neighboring county had a new department large carpet made for their community facility and instead of "In God we trust" they mistakenly put "In Dog we trust" and people went nuts trying to buy from them. My Lt made quite a few calls but nope. The counties Sheriff ended up auctioning off the rug for charity. They got I think 15k for the rug. I have 5 pup's and 3 cat's and I just can't imagine life without them. I have erns with ashes from the 8 I have had since '05. I try to adopt over 5yrs old because most folks pass them over so I don't get as much time with some as I should have & though it tears me apart when they cross I know I will be with them again. Just fantastic job man thank you.
Friend of my fathers was telling a story about how units in Vietnam would adopt dogs similar to Hank because they hated the Vietnamese. They were just kept around as food for them. So when Americans fed them and took care of them they became extremely protective and were great for early warnings of the enemy.
This was my unit. I was at Keating for a few months and left six weeks before Oct 3 to go back up to Squadron (Cav Battalion).
Your IDF tactics were slightly off. But we did have planned targets (Putting Green, Northface, Diving Board).
We also had a B-10 that would harass and probe us almost daily, and the mortars couldn’t get him. Trying to adjust indirect fires on to a shallow peak or ridge takes a lot of finesse.
Wow. My respect mister.
@Promotional Inc. Yeah, that’s how all the units that went there felt. There were already plans to close it down before our unit even got there. But incidents both further north and with Beau Bergdahl diverted resources and prevented the base closure.
It was originally planned out and constructed by the Provincial Reconstruction Team. A bunch of army engineers that obviously had no tactical sense.
@@ronin7403
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-10_recoilless_rifle
Is this what you're talking about?
@@joshuaortiz2031 correct. Recoiless Rifle that would take pot shots at us to probe our reactions.
I was in c co 1/12... 2/12 was at restrepo you scoots up in the kemdesh
I found in my 3 or 4 years as a 18Z that most team Commanders defer to the 18Z but the LT's always wanted to show their competence by taking over the 18Z's command. That's why SF went with WO's as assistant team leaders, more experience and maturity levels. We found that most WO's were prior NCO's to start their carriers!
DOL brother
Aren’t all warrant officers prior ncos
Nephew of the real Ty Carter here. I'm glad you guys enjoyed the movie
Your uncle is a hero. Caleb Landry Jones and his performance made me sob violently and stuck with me for weeks. What an incredible story. RIP Mace ❤
@@ashm624, agreed. Caleb's one of those actors, similar to Michael Shannon, that just nails it every scene he's in. RIP Mace 🙌
@@upStomp i want him to get more roles he really is incredible.
We need more of these.
Also speaking of dogs, mine passed away today. Had her 16 years. Got her as a 4th grader and she was still here when i ETS.
Ed Faulkner was my cousin, I was so excited to hear that he would be portrayed in the movie. He unfortunately passed not too long after coming home.
It’s crazy how civilians thought the taliban fighters were dumb. They may have less tech than the US but by no means are they dumb. This fight shows this all to well. It was coordinated and well thought out. Really enjoyed this movie and it’s nice seeing guys that experienced similar things commenting on how accurate it is.
I think as Americans we have a bias that we think like that and we can just overwhelm them...we don't realize the kind of fight they have in them and these dudes in flip flops have been doing this for 30 years vs a bunch of 18 to 23 year olds..I'm all American but we need to actually figure out insurgencies and the people or it it will never work
They definitely were not dumb they've been doing this their whole lives
@@robertgoodwin2787 100% agree. It’s like we forget these people fought the soviets with less than impressive weapons and caused them to pull out. That wasn’t luck, we helped with some weapons but no one has really ever conquered Afghanistan and held it. It was a costly mistake I hope the American military learns from.
It runs pretty deep on just how arrogant and ignorant a lot of people are to the enemy we fought there.
And its worse when you consider that our generals and politicians were privy to the same incredible arrogant and ignorant bias as the common American.
The greater irony is when people tell me that I can't stand up to government with my AR-15, but then turn around and ignore the fact that Taliban essentially thrived despite American supremacy in Afghanistan...
@@JohnDoe-wt9ek completely agree we have multiple examples of people having limited arms but terrain knowledge and local infrastructure beating or at least wounding hi-tech militaries. An ar-15 still shoots bullets at high velocity and until told otherwise that can cause casualties. The taliban were nothing if not creative and with much less tech than the US won a war of attrition. In the same way we wouldn’t obliterate Afghanistan we definitely wouldn’t do that in the states and that gives the common less armed person a chance. The Ukrainian are basically doing that right now against an enemy with much less morality than the US military has. IEDs were very effective against our military because as the name suggest they were improvised by people with advance knowledge of their terrain and the ability to improvise and be creative.
The main motor guy in the movie was playing himself. His name is Daniel Rodriguez. After the Army he played football for Clemson and in 2014 was signed as a free agent to the St Louis Rams. Pretty dope story. I ran into him in Nashville last year and talked to him for awhile at the He’s a good dude
That’s fucking sick af I didn’t know that much I knew he played himself in the movie but not the other stuff
Seems like he’s using his service as a platform.
@@justaguy7240cool
As a former PSYOPER, I concur 100% with you on the “transactions” during KLEs. Shit used to piss me off so bad when they’d be pissing on your leg while telling you it’s raining.
Sorry I'm a civilian but what do you mean by PSYOPER?
@@jacobcoryell8258 I was a Psychological Operations Specialist in the Army. It’s another Special Operations career field. Look up MOS 37F for our tasks and duties.
In other words, he’s a former guy that’s with some guys that does psychological warfare, as advertised on the one where Buck and Kurt has reacted to.
I watched this movie with my wife. When I saw the STUPID place the outpost was located, I was yelling at the screen, “This is why I got out of the Army!” We signed up for a job, which will likely be dangerous at some point, I get it, fine. But putting all of our lives in danger for no f*ing reason is what always made me get out after 8 years. And they keep doing it again and again. My outpost in Bosnia was basically the Bosnian version of the same thing. Luckily no one attacked us.
Makes you wonder if it's sheer stupidity of command or intentionally putting troops at risk to goad an action.
Exactly 💯
At some point you have to assume the politicians did it on purpose. After all they make more money on defense stocks when troops die.
@@warrenharrison9490 it was intentional, read the outpost by jake tapper goes into so much detail of when the The outpost was created until destroyed after the battle, haven’t finished it yet because it’s long af, so many lives lost for that shithole
The outpost is probably the best depiction of how life is in the army while on deployment. From the dumbshit we did on our downtime to patrolling and army terminologies. This movie really got it down as far as OIF and OEF depiction. If you were regular army or military you would really appreciate this movie for how authentic it is. That outpost from a strategic stand point made no sense what so ever.
I enjoyed the movie (I'm not or have not been in the military, just want to be clear) the only problem I had was I just couldn't buy Orlando's accent lol
@@Synthetic-Rabbit every generation has there depiction of the military. When it comes to regular conventional army, this movie was spot on. I still wonder today who thr retarded higher ups allowed them to even set an outpost there. Only explanation is to send an infantry unit that wants a Purple Heart and CIB for all.
Every1 knew it was a horrible location. But, the region they were at, it was the only place they could put a FOB, because it was the only terrain they could get supplies in.
@@CSpad There was no reason to be there AT ALL is the point. Who cares about supplies to a base we shouldnt have even been in to begin with? This is exactly why we lost.
@@SmokyOle spoken like a supply troop with zero experience w/ intelligence let alone the history of Afghanistan.
No shhitt, higher ups fubar'ed a FOB..
There was no winning that " war ," as you want to call it.
We were not at war with Afghanistan. We were at war with the Taliban.
We were mostly Scouts 19Ds at Keating. Some Marine attachments, ANA and other combat elements. Captain Yllescas was an Awesome leader. We were there 08-09. We did have TRPs around the FOB. It was a shit hole and so many TICs. Thank you for your videos.
Scouts out
I heard a story from I think Vietnam (modern day), where two soldiers had a fight, and they made them hug each other in front of everyone for like a really long time, like hours.
Damn, makes sense.
Isn't it in this one? Or maybe it's another modern war movie that they do that too.
@likeorasgod it's in this one too and it's fucking hilarious. Shirts off n everything
Having Ptsd i get powerful anxiety and a shit feeling in general at night some times this channel seems to instantly calm me down and make me feel better i appreciate that
I hope you get better. Best wishes and hugs.
Checking in on you. Hope life is treating you well ❤️
Damn I was hoping they’d react to the scene in the TOC when cpt keating was trynna get everyone’s attention and he tapped his rank and said “is this thing working ?” And a soldier said “army made it, nope”
When I was in Afghanistan from '17-'18, I was attached to a different battalion from my brigade, so I wasn't there to witness this, but one of my closest buddies told me that pretty much the entire staff of the DFAC on their FOB was fired because one of the workers got caught using a cell phone to correct mortar fire. My FOB was pretty much quiet in terms of what happened within the wire, but we hosted a lot of medevac for the Afghans who were working in the area around us.
At my first duty station I was in the 60mm mortar section in the weapons platoon of a rifle company. We had a guy who was a complete goof, no common sense, but he was an artist with that mortar. Once when we went to a range we saw a brand new target out there, an old half-track that hadn't been shot up yet. The machine gunners got set up first and started hitting it - we could hear their rounds hitting but couldn't really see them. We had two mortar squads, so we had two of our three guns with us. The goofball was gunning on the second gun. The lieutenant went over and told him, "I want you to nail the driver of that half-track."
The guy fired one quick round to adjust and hit about five yards from the vehicle. He tweaked the bipod and fired his second round - it landed on the hood of the vehicle and blew out the windshield. He turned around and told the lieutenant, "There you go, Ell Tee."
The lieutenant shook his head and said, "Nah, he ducked. Try again."
The kid looked at the lieutenant for a second, then went back, made another tiny tweak to the bipod, and fired again. The round hit in the front seat and we saw the steering wheel sailing through the air. He looked up at the lieutenant and said, "Did he duck that one, sir?"
Another time there was a water bull out there with the top hatch open. On his second round, the same guy dropped a round inside the water bull.
He was never going to get above lance corporal because he was totally lacking in judgment and constantly did stupid things. But he could play that mortar like a fiddle.
This movie has always reminded me of my time at FOB St Michael. Great review boys! I really like this movie.
Abel had me dying with the hand joke! 🤣😂🤣😂
he had himself dying too bro lmao!
Fuck that place. Mahmudiya was a hornets nest.
The movie did the best they could without loosing the audience. The book this movie was based off of had multiple interviews with family members, emails and added information for better context. Definitely worth a read.
Clint Romesha (Medal of Honor recipient) wrote a book called Red Platoon about his experience. I recommend them both.
nice! ill check it out
Yes!!! RED PLATOON!! Best book for first person account.
are you talking about jake tappers book also?
Another great video guys! Its like hanging out there with yall.
As an 11C, yeah we use a MBC computer or a plotting board to come up with Elevation, deflection and charge. But yeah they would have had known targets and shifted from that known point. You are spot on though, after the first round hits, any adjustments are made if needed and you fire for effect. That system they show in the movie clip is a 120mm.
I was an 11c as well, brother. I love listening to FNG Academy but your right that's way bigger than an 80mm, lol. I was watching and saw that and started scrolling for your commemt! Lol.👍👌😍💯
120mm are the best for COP defense. Longest range, larger kill radius and then combine it with willy P, someone is getting shake and baked.
I've been watching for a long time, finally ordered Rising Above, soo excited to start the read tomorrow! Thanks for another great video.
I appreciate it!
Was a student at Clemson when this name "daniel rodriguez" started to pop up as a walk-on football player who was former military. he was one of the guys in this movie, I believe he was cast as himself in this. Quite an incredible story, some of his football tapes are still out there and, with Clemson's military tradition, was honored in a game for it. if i remember correctly, he wanted to play college ball because he and a friend of his that was killed in this battled talked about it while out there.
When you set up a base you set up a fires plan. You put out target reference points around the camp which are already dialed in with elevation, deflection and charge. You will also have a final protective fire plan set up, this is when all else fails and you must bring in fire close to or into friendly lines. I was a mortarman, loved the job. We had one of the best mortar teams in the 7th ID and 9th Inf Regt. The wheel Buck is talking about is a plotting board. Since they only have one type of mortar system in a static location, it would be extremally easy to have these things dialed in as well. I have not done this since the 90s. I shot 60's or M224.
"High Angle Hell, death and destruction from above",
Definitely the most realistic movie I’ve seen to date on OEF/OIF.
Love that!!!
My dad said the same thing that it felt like how Nam was just different location. I was lucky when I was in, I was in the Navy and we just did figure 8's out in the gulf while the fly boys would go to runs. So never saw combat even while over there.
Re: Pets in the army, my grandfather was in the 22nd bombardment group during WW2. He told stories of how when they were in the Philippines the locals would bring puppies to the soldiers who would just love to have pets, they would get these puppies all fat and loved up then the locals would come back...take the puppies, and give them new ones. Eventually they realized that the whole point was to fatten the dogs up to be eaten and they stopped taking the puppies after that.
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@@zoch9797 somebody should send them the memo then because they seem unaware that this is a rule.
What I read about this movie is that 3 person was on set who actually fought in that battle, 2 advisor and 1 actually played a role in the film, but if I remember correctly not his own. That sure gave a boost to the accuracy.
Daniel Rodriguez was the mortar guy that was in the movie. His UA-cam channel has quite a few videos from previous firefights at Keating. Ty Charter who got a MOH was also in the movie. I believe there was 1 more
I laughed so hard when you talked about distinguishing the difference between incoming and out going rounds. That is so true. I remember many of nights playing dominoes or spades a new guy would panic because he heard something. We would be like sit your ass down. That was outgoing.
Brought my deployment dog "Dosier" home from Iraq in 2010. he was the best dog ever, he definitely wanted me to remember him. He passed away on my birthday September 13, 2022. I miss him everyday. 😢
The dogs that would go all night by the COP also became a problem.. They would start barking when we were trying to slip out to set up OP's at night. We eventually started to slip out through the back entrance after letting a team go out through the main gate. They would head one way and we would peel off trying to stay parallel with them going through the orchards. Dogs were still a problem though, they also got disappeared. A suppresor was used, and we were Army conventional Infantry.. We don't get suppressors issued. I think a drug deal went down just so top could handle it without getting the boys involved. We loved dogs, but we were blood hungry savages. I'm just glad it wasn't anybody in the squads that did them in. Cause going out there with DOC to pick them up and throw them in the fire pit is something ill never forget. Our platoon pet was a local dog, she also hated the locals. She would chace off the damn kids. She got into the ANA pet birds one day.. After that we thought she was dead, because we heard they took a machete to one of her legs. She showed up a month later... The leg was.. Badly infected, she wasn't going to make it. We knew she would follow the outgoing squad on mission. So the squad leader did the only thing we could for her... God fucking dog though. No locals were ever allowed near us if she was around.
What’s really cool is one of the actual soldier’s from that day is playing himself in the movie “it’s just another fucking day in Afghanistan”
Ty Carter also made a cameo in the movie.
As an 11C.. I had an aneurysm when you guys were talking about the mortar systems.. Great video though lol
Can you elaborate :D?
@@HunterMich well first off, the movie featured a 120mm mortar... not an 81mm lol
@@alexhinshaw5900 best mother-fucking weapon system ever….unless you’re cleaning it.
I know right!? I would imagine those 120's were shooting at preplanned targets, and that's why it was 1st round so close. I always wish they would show accurate time of flight too. Those things take forever to come down haha
@@alexhinshaw5900 I was gonna say that mortar looks wayy too big to be an 81
The dogs in Nepal are often territorial. What happens is that dogs get left or get lost away from their territory and then will tag along with people when they’re passing through. That way they don’t get attacked by the dogs whose territory they’re crossing through. Once they get to their territory, they often leave. It’s a pretty common story for climbers and trekkers. There’s a pretty good chance that this is what happened with Hank.
What a lot of people don’t realize about the two Medal of Honor recipients Clint Romesha and Ty Carter is that they were not infantry they were Cav scouts I believe bc they do not have blue cords when the received their medal of honors. I first realized when I was at the National Infantry museum when I graduated and they were both not on the Medal of Honor wall.
11B have the blue cord, 19D have the Stetson. The units they were in more than likely have their own MoH wall as as mine did.
Romesha was a Tanker until he was deployed to Afgan. Carter was Cav Scout. Looks like a lot of the folks that got station there was a mix matched of folks. The one thing that gets me the most about this movie is how Ty Carter did what needed to be done even though he was pretty much looked down upon and treated like crap. Like at the end when he said about Mace when the lady said they must of been good friends. IT was more the opposite, but it doesn't mater when the time comes we are all brothers. Oh and look up what Carter actually did it was way more than this movie shown. Oh and no relationship to him having same last name.
@@likeorasgod I remember watching both of their stories and accounts of what happened on Medal of Honor on Netflix. Mogadishu aka Blackhawk down happened on my birthday Oct 3, 1993 as well as COP Keating October 3, 2009 😳 something about my birthday has bad juju. I’m currently deployed in Middle East now and my 35th is coming before I get home 🤞🏽
It's was calvary from fort Carson
@@likeorasgodRomesha became a Scout in 06, before we went to Iraq. We were in the same platoon, and in the same chalk on our spur ride.
The part at the end with Carter talking to the head shrinker absolutely destroyed me. My wife and I watched this in the theater and she looked over at me seeing huge tears streaming down my face but no sound was coming out. She’d never seen my cry before in 15 years together. RIP brothers until Valhalla
Hank sounds like an awesome dog. I hope that Nepalese commander didn’t have him killed.
Maybe he had the dog sent back to Nepal
The Battle of Ganjgal had two living Medal of Honor recipients. Dakota Meyer and William Swenson.
Great review guys, I was sitting right there with you. Remembering deployments, the shooting the shit, the off the wall shit that goes on when you're bored, jokes we played on each other, etc. Shit dude you can't pull that on civilians without them thinking your a fkn weirdo. They just don't get it...damn, thoes were good times, thanks
Love these reviews and hearing from your experiences. Thank you for your service gentleman!!! 🙏🏼
Our pleasure!
Just watched it again last night. One of the better movies based on true stories.
It's so funny to hear SF guys talk about how to use mortars.
The book is really really good (The Outpost, by Jake Tapper). Probably one of my favorite reads and I think it does the whole story of COP Keating a little more justice just because you can get so much more detail in a book. That being said, I did enjoy this movie quite at bit and I think they did about as well as they could have in the amount of time they had.
i think this movie did an incredible job representing the book of the same name. Clint Romesha wrote an amazing book (you can tell the writers of this script read it) called red platoon about his experiences. the scene where romesha is telling his team how he would assault keating was taken almost directly from red platoon. according to romesha, they literally discussed how the taliban was gonna fuck em up and exactly how they would do it constantly prior to them actually doing it.
Loving these breakdowns gents.
The “regular size corona” line had me cracking up. Been waiting for that for an hour, 😂😂😂❤😊
Just wanted to thank you all for such a great series. Laughed, learned a thing or two. Very interesting topics( the real stories). I've been binge watching while cutting up my black bear for canning. It is true. If your going to work with knives your going to get cut. Especially watching guys drinking , criticing and telling war stories. Thanks for livening up a boring job. Cheers
What really ticked me off was the officers who put those guys in such a lousy position with poor support never really got punished for their absolute stupidity. They should have been busted in rank and never allowed to lead forces in combat again.
I think they were but the army didn’t punish them severely, but yea the outpost goes back a while, you should read The Outpost by Jake Tapper
You think that's bad, My first depo to Afghanistan EVERYONE was basically driving older IFOR shit that had little or no uparmor at all, The DOD didn't want to lose the newer stuff to soon so they gave the patrols and stags complete shit to fight with. I felt bad for the 11bravos and 0311 I'd see all god damn day every day knowing that some of those guys weren't making it home. We had solid ROE up until 09 then shit got FUBAR, it was around this time that civilian complaints against anyone and everyone in a uni mostly enlisted were treated like the were the fucking gospel most times with BS statements and no corroboration or evidence. By 2012 NCO's who'd been IC a few times started getting mustered out across the board from If I recall correctly E-4 to E7's, I had just made Gunny prior to that depo and had two more years on my contract as an 0372 at that time. Gave a little over 17 years to the Corps had some good officers in the beginning and middle by my last two years there were several I not only couldn't trust but wanted to bunch in the face for their stupidity, not my direct CO's but further up the chain and definitely those from other branches who were new booty to the shit show and thought they knew more than guys who had already been IC 3 or four times.
@@mazim7386 they were punished to the point they would simply never be able to advance in their military careers
Great show, guys! Sean's story about how an Apache couldn't find a PKM gunner...yep. As the actual battle was described, the air support came in and worked for like hours to root out all the Taliban from their positions in the rocks. Supposedly, there was a DSHK that got one or two of the Apaches. The pilots managed to get back to base and put a steel rod through the DSHK bullet hole to figure out the angle it was shooting from when he was hit. Not perfect for obvious reasons but he used that to figure out approximately where the DSHK was for when he got back in the fight and they were able to work with the guys on the ground to find and take out that gun. Just the stack of air support one of the camp Keating guys had to coordinate for like hours of runs and refuels. Crazeh! Awesome movie. Thanks for the show FNG-A!
Listening to this is great. The down time is the worst time for fights to breakout. I was USAF Security police and during the police academy we trained with USMC MPs. Building entry day was long and rough by the end of it we were all on each others nerves. After so many Marine put downs of the Air Force I did a scoop slam from behind on the most annoying Marine putting him in the dirt and was immediately dragged backwards in a chokehold. I broke out of it spun around and I was surrounded by jarheads. the instructors knew I was about to stomped into the dirt broke it up and had us doing push ups and mountain climbers until we dropped. But after that I became good friends with all of the Marines. Adrenaline and anger is a dangerous mix.
The mortar portion of the talk is pretty accurate. Handheld mode is where you aim with the thumb and squeeze the trigger on the trigger fire option of safe,drop,trigger and we also have 120mm mortars that are ground mounted.
FYI the guys this movie portrayed were cav scouts (19d) not infantry .
Lol my guy is gonna hold onto this one longer than his last breath
@@03BangBang I'm just saying 🤷
That’s not true, it was a mix .. 19D and 11Bs
You should review End of Watch next since you were LEO
Good gunfighting and tactics displayed & also the old school X300 is used
naw.
I was at Keating with the 173rd. They did a great job with this movie with the exception that the COP wasn't so level. I served with Kirk in Afghanistan before he went to that unit, it was a kick in the gut for all of us back in Germany when we got the news.
I helped build Kamdesh as it was formally known. Bad spot. I was C Co 3/71 10th mountain. Review The Unit. Back in the day it was the best representation of the military I'd ever seen. Then it got too sitcom. So many great actors, please give this request some weight. You may actually enjoy yourselves
Lol it was the other way around, Bloom punched Bieber. And fun fact, the guy in the scene where he's asked about picking one guy to fuck, that's the guy who was the actual Lieutenant who took command during the attack.
The part that stood out to me the best.. was the end when SSG Carter was talking to the Doc.
As a former 11C ... Mortars are not "guess work". Moderns systems have GPS and computers.
And if you were in one place for an extended period of time, wouldn't you have used smoke rounds or something to get on target in advance?
@@SGobuck 100%. Pre planned referenced firing points that FIST can quickly adjust off of.
This movie is based on actual events. One of the soldiers that was actually there “SPC Rodrigues “ played himself in the movie. Other Veterans also were acting. The Movie was filmed “correction” in Bulgaria.
You're right about D Rod playing himself but we shot the movie in a quarry about an hour outside of Sofia, Bulgaria.
@@josiahjackkalian You are correct, my fault brother. I confused it with Dean Devlin the Screen writer for the Series 1&2 of The Outpost, filmed in outside Belgrade in Siberia and in Utah. Was my sloppy work. . I know that Rod Lurie originally wanted to shoot in Morocco, but weapons were not allowed. I’m not sure how the heck I came up with Utah and a whole other thing lol.
@@josiahjackkalian I loved you in the short film,Gutter’s”! That was on par my guy. Jkjk
@@punisher3167 thank you!! That was a lot of fun🤙🤙🤙
@@punisher3167 yeah Morocco would have been great but Sofia was amazing so, zero complaints
Battle of Shok Valley "Operation Commando Wrath" 6APR08, two living MoH recipients were forged out of that battle. MSG Williams and SSG Shurer of ODA 3336. Both were initially awarded the Silver Star Medal but were later upgraded to the MoH due to the Pentagon's review of valor awards on 1OCT18. Unfortunately SSG Shurer was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer and died of it on 14MAY20.
Battle of Ganjgal Valley 8SEP09 also forged two MoH recipients. Corporal Dakota Meyer and Captain Will Swenson. You'll probably remember this one because it was famous for the military trying to fuck Cpt Swenson out of the MoH. Cpt Swenson was extremely vocal on denial of indirect support and the command. His MoH paperwork was "magically" lost but eventually the wrong was made right.
Man I’m sitting here at work enjoy these breakdowns like man I wish I had a beer right about now kickin it with these dudes lol
Love your channel. Love all the side bar from the experiences you two went through. Keep up great work
You should set up a Patreon or something where you upload the entire reaction uncensored, I’d definitely subscribe.
@2:40 Leave no Dog behind, task a mission to extract Hank!
always appreciate input from guys who know. thanks guys
Any time!
I always recommend this movie as a very accurate portrayal of how things are. There's some little details or lines here and there that aren't, but as a whole, fucking close as you'll get without it being a documentary
Capt. Keating was written in as their original CO from whom the outpost was named after, just for brevity and more cohesive screenplay storytelling. But Keating was actually from a different unit from a tour of duty several years before. He did die from the truck falling off the cliff as shown in the movie.
Had the EXACT conversation waking up from a nap. "Is that incoming or outgoing?" It was incoming. Most scared I have ever been.
Great to see the realistic approach...keep 'em coming...
It was not the only battle where two people were awarded the MOH. Dakota Meyer and William Swenson were both awarded the MOH for The Battle of Gunjgal where they worked together.
Funny thing about Orlando Bloom. I happened to be at Benning and came up on a bunch of what I'd assumed was a bunch of IAIT kids, and one was standing with his hands in his pockets. I was never one to scream or cuss much for stuff like this, but I came up and locked the 'solider' up and tell him he was lucky a CSM didn't see him doing this (I was an O2 at the time). I went on by and a civilian came bounding up and apologized, saying they were actors for a movie when trained for there. I told the guy the same thing I'd told the actor and didn't think anything further. Fast Forward to seeing the movie (as I knew some guys who'd been in the real battle back then), and I recognized the actor I'd lock up. I'd yelled at Orlando Bloom. But nobody knew him at the time, and frankly, he was still VERY lucky I wasn't a career cadre NCO, as actor or not, he'd STILL be in the front leaning rest!
You mean to tell me those bars were so bright you forgot you ever saw pirates of the Caribbean? Fuckin boot lol
You wouldn’t be telling him to push cause he wouldn’t even listen to you. What are you going to do? Nothing.
I never made it to afghanistan, I was on standby in incirlik turkey, but this movie looks so damn spot on to this OP. I’m a history buff and these guys really embraced the suck.
Elevation doesn’t matter as much when it comes to shooting up hill essentially, it’s a mortar so it’s already high angle.
They were also shooting known points so they had historic data for the target.
Had a puppy we rescued from the IA in Mosul that we saw literally punt across a field smh. Smoked the dawg chit outta that IA kid and named the puppy football lol.
Typically in an infantry unit, you got leadership, you got NCOs, and then theres allways that one specialist whos super fuckin experienced and just on his shit. Thats the dude that will openly question his leadership and everyone kinda shuts up and listens for a second.
Theres one in every unit, and hes kind of a buffer betwee leaders and the joes
Outpost was great, they almost made it too realistic so some of the combat came off as boring. CGI effects for a lot of the bullet hits and stuff kind of didn't work. Also the Orlando Bloom/Justin Bieber thing was the other way around. Bloom dropped Bieber for talking about fucking his wife.
I was there in 06’ and that place sucked. Looking up at the mountains we all just kind of went “well… it was nice knowing you guys.”
That corona joke was top tier lol love the banter
Yeah, we were absolute pros at setting up ourselves in the bottoms of "salad bowls".
Same opinion on this movie. Wasn't into it until the bullets started flying, now it's one of my favorite military movies
You should watch and do a react video to some of the Medal of Honor episodes on Netflix. It has both of the MoH recipients from Keating
Can’t believe you guys liked this movie. Seriously!
I was surprised by how much I ended up liking this movie. I watched it a few times. Also, Orlando Bloom actually got the better of the Biebs after the Biebs called him a bitch or something at a restaurant. Orlando Bloom hit him once and the Biebs bitched out and immediately tried to get out of there ha.
“But in your hands, it looks like a regular one” 😂 hahahah
29:00 or so,
It's a lot more likely to happen when you have an LT as the OIC...and he had BETTER listen to his NCOs!!
How about of review of Danger Close - Battle of Long Tan
Are you folks about modern infantry combat or you may go back in history like the movie Zulu or Gettysburg?
That dog was 100% an opfor plant HUMINT. erm... DOGINT asset Curt,he just finished his mission and just went home for debrief.
2 barks for no 1 for yes haha
Loved the movie, but it did have an "after school special" feel to it with some scenes. This is common to many Clint Eastwood movies, so I found it a weird coincidence that his son was in this. Caleb's performance in particular was amazing, as his often are. That kid's Oscar bound at some point.
We had an orphaned puppy in OIF1 al Asad. Our dumbass CO shot its mother. Another platoon was jealous and stole it in the middle of the night and drowned it. Sad day.
One of the things I think this movie does so well is show what it’s like for the guys who didn’t get 200 million in training and the best equipment. I’m so sick of the Navy Seal/Delta Recon dudes John Wicking through movies. I much prefer and generally would just like people to see more stories about 19 year old kids with the bare minimum in training and equipment being led by twice divorced 25 year olds and still getting the job done.
5:21 it was a pre-targeted position they already knew the range and elevation to be able to hit that spot
It was something that the German mortar teams defending Normandy Beach did (from their pre-prepared defensive positions) they took training rounds pick certain positions then targeted those positions adjusting each round until they finally hit the exact spot that they wanted to and then they marked it on the wall , map or whatever what the direction, range and elevation was.
Yeah they weren't just blindly dropping mortars all over the place. they were actually targeting specific choke points and positions of potential cover. To this day you can still go visit the surviving mortar pits and see the pictures of the different targets with the proper adjustments written under each one. that they painted around the circumference of the pit. They were so accurate that they were able to drop rounds within a 6 ft radius of their targets.
it's still a good defensive tactic for mortar teams to this day
Provided they have the time to prepare your position. it takes all the guesswork out of it.
They have each spot in Ukraine marked that’s how theyre being so accurate like you said
I have been watching your videos for several months now. It was interesting to know Kurt trained in Nepal as well. I never thought US military personnel would go to Nepal for training as well. Interesting story about the dog as well.
Guys... the Battle of Ganjegal Valley also had two MOH recipients ... Capt Swenson and Corporal Meyer. BUT love your work. Keep it up. Semper Fidelis.
We played a game when I was in naming adult film stars (and just general hot actresses), the first letter of the last name is the first letter of the first name of the next one. Pretty good movie, Clint Romesha is a freaking chad.
lmao fact
@@FNGACADEMY Hahahaha, we usually played that game in the shitters or when bored AF at an OP/CP xD
This movie pretty much summed up this deployment(09-10) being part of this BDE(4/4) and we were just south in the Pech River Valley
You have to register the mortar from each firing position. Once its close, the fister calls in and adjusts left right, then you over under depending depending on how far or short the round is.
Sounds likes an NHL game.. Tension builds, players get frustrated and boom the gloves drop.
Netflix Medal of Honor has two episodes on Camp Keading. SSG Clint Romesha leading an assault to retake the main gate. Then SPEC4 Ty Carter running ammo and securing a wounded SM under fire.
It’s call a wiz wheel and you direct lay with it.
'Red Platoon' by MOH recipient Clint Romesha ( Scott Eastwood's character in the movie)as well as Jake Tappers 'The Outpost' are much more detailed with a better time frame of events leading up to the final battle which occurred coincidentally just before they were to close COP Keating ( named after the character played by Orlando Blume). Definitely recommend reading both. Also recommend this '11 days and wake up' . . . on UA-cam . . .11 Days & A Wake Up | The Story of Chosen Company at Wanat
You meant to say wiz wheel @5:25 Pre Planned Targets are vital as well. Also 60s are fun ass hell!