When Lebo said "i wish i had formulated some sort of idea of what God means to me before i moved into a room of what God means to everyone else" I felt that 😢
You can still do that, Christianity is more than a belief system, it is a personal relationship with the living God. Reading the word of God and spending time in prayer can help you have a better relationship with your Father- God. P.S. We are all on unique life journeys with different purposes, which shapes how we perceive God. He meets us where we are and reveals Himself according to our personal paths, but He remains the same faithful, loving Father to us all.
honestly you cannot be one foot in the world and the other in your religion. You have to decide how you want to live your life. As much as you guys want to justify being a lukewarm Christianity, it can never be the right way to live your life. At some point, the two lifestyles will be at war with one another.
Today(Friday) I was writing a test .On Wednesday I dreamt of the paper but only saw the structure of the paper with only long questions . On Thursday I told someone we laughed about it ,fast forward the paper was exactly that . According to the memo I passed the paper
Loved this episode!❤ We should also bare in mind that the road to heaven feels like hell and the road to hell feels like heaven. We cannot be lukewarm Christians, it doesn't work out in the end. 🙌
A faith-based book that teaches from biblical theology about dreams and the importance of interpretation of them is: The Power of Your Dreams - Stephanie Ike Okafor
We do agree that "Christianity came with a boat" it has been proven and we were told. We do come to realise that our ancestors had different practices before Christianity was introduced by our colonies . Let's learn to not limit God over how He was introduced to us. God he knew things before they occurred, the colonies could've came from the sky and we would've said "Christianity came from the sky", they could've crawled to Africa and we would've said "Christianity crawled to us". God can use anything and anyone to let his Gospel be known. Nothing would stop his mandate and his plans for His word to be spread all over the world. What the enemy intended for evil and to colonise our minds and dim as "forgetting our African roots" God used it for good for us to get to have such podcasts where he's name is spread across the world. He would've done it otherwise. He is not limited by a boat to get His children to know Him. He is God of abundance and unlimited ways where it seems to be no way.
1. Where is it proven that Christianity came with a boat? Before speaking on things, it is very important to do research and be willing to learn. Christianity has longggg been in Africa before colonization years. It's funny that we still have Africans who still want to justify their wrong beliefs and not want to educate themselves about what colonization did to our people spiritually. Brother/Sister, there's only one country in Africa that was never colonized, and that country holds the oldest bible and holds the truth about Jesus Christ and all. If that doesn't say anything to you, then I don't know.
2. So you mean to tell the people it's okay to be acknowledging ancestors who were depressed and suicidal because of colonization. 3. Ancestors who say they are for God but don't respect the Son of that God? 4. Roots of when men promoted pedophilia by making young girls dance in front of old men topless after hitting puberty just to be chosen by them? A person with a good mindset will say it's not right, and culture/ Africa Roots were made to favor men. However, the God in the bible favors ALL HUMAN KIND.
1. There's only one country in Africa that was not colonized, and that country holds the oldest bible and the truth about Jesus Christ. If that doesn't say anything to you, then I don't know.
Yho Lebo is speaking facts. It is harder for boys to go to church, my father doesn't doesn't go to church which causes my brother to make excuses on not to go to my mother.
Interesting conversation guys. I know without a single doubt that we would know which one is the right one because Jesus told us when He said I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me. Any faith or spirituality outside Christ in false and misleading. He is not an all inclusive God. He is one and can't be mixed or compared to any other deity. Danko
Thato you doing well my brother am a big fan of your work I actually look up to you which sounds wired to say coz we almost the same age anyway thts beside the point you rocking chief keep up with the good work
I love this conversation. Well done on being open about such a difficult topic. My take is everyone needs to always be open to new information because blind faith comes from believing someone else's reality for you and not your own
Lebo~"Christianity came on a boat to Africa; we had religion before they came." indeed so, partially. Before the arrival of Christianity on the grounds of Africa, there was nothing called religion. We can our set of practices in place, which were responding to the then times. Such practices, among others, assumably involved going to mountains and asking for rain from the higher spirit, which is the mysterious creator. As an ideological state apparatus, religion, predominately Christianity, overcame those practices and demonized African practices. The African Spirituality Restoration should indeed be in contemporary conversations. Do we even question what was the main purpose of religion, or should we not "question the word of god" as we were taught. Practices and bodies of knowledge that depress autonomy and subjective perspectives (questioning) should be looked at properly on the grounds upon which they are anchored or their main purpose. African Spirituality is our Identity and we own that 👍👍
I have said this before on the thoughts digest podcast invite Joshua maponga and give us the views an insight in African spirituality from a knowledgeable aspect. Love your consistency.
I love loveeee that Lebo is exploring spirituality well both of them, And Lebo is right Posting bible verse and posting Konka cannot co-exist. We are called to not conform to the patterns of the world and Konka (groove) is a society norm we Christians should not conform to as it promotes and normalizes many many sins
Lebo needs to give Thato a chance to speak more. They're both so different and hearing from both sides adds more value, as opposed to just one aspect. ❤
Insightful, I know someone who dreams and their dreams come to pass like 70% of the time, what can you say about that? Dwell a bit more on spirituality....maybe even have a guest for that.
The narrative that Christianity came in boats or is a white man's religion is false. Christianity has been in Africa for almost 2,000 years-long before European colonizers came. In fact, Ethiopia had Christian communities as early as the 1st and 4th centuries, making it one of the oldest regions where Christianity spread. African countries like Ethiopia even made Christianity their official religion over 1,000 years before colonizers arrived. So, Christianity has deep roots in Africa... And Ethiopia is the only African country that was never colonised!
i'm of the opinion that's why they were never colonized. In the whole of Africa, they were probably the only nation that was on fire for Jesus...well and Liberia maybe😅
The dream realm is actually very important. Some accounts in the bible actually took place in dreams. When God told Ezekiel to prophesy to the bones, it actually happened in the dream realm. Daniel was known for his ability to dream and interpret dreams. Joseph was called a dreamer.
You cannot have faith in God w/o reading the Bible(Romans 10:17). You cannot love the world and the things of the world and love God James 4:4-8, so no clubbing etc and loving God does not co-exist but we tell ourselves a lot of things as people and believe they are true. Christianity did not come to Africa as a whole on a boat research on the Ethiopian church and the bible actually also speaks of it Acts 8:26-30. All love btw😅❤
Don’t let anyone else determine your relationship with Christ. I think the problem with us as Christians is we want to determine another person’s relationship with God. At the end of the day we are all sinners- what keeps us away from Gods love is other people’s judgement.
God does speak through dreams, He spoke to Joseph when he wanted to divorce Mary. Matthew 1:20 But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21 She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” 22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet:
There is an explanation for existence.. some choose to call that God, some choose to call it Allah etc. If you document your experiance with this "explanation of existence" those that read it might call it a doctrine.
s/o to Lebo, you can't be at Konka and posting bible verses on your stories. It's like you're not even reading those scriptures, you're just doing it cause it's trendy. The very same book you're quoting warns us about being lukewarm which is basically being one foot in and one foot out like trying to intertwine Christianity and groove culture when they clearly repel each other like oil and water.
The first few minutes of this video were painful.. I love u guys but make the introduction more enticing I enjoyed the middle not the beginning I'm a long time viewer just giving feedback
Y'all don't know what yall talking about, The human mind can never fathom how surreal, traumatic, scary and petrifying Hell is unles you experience it individually Stop spreading that crap to the public, God will judge yall so harshly cause you have a platform and spreading blasphemy
When Lebo said "i wish i had formulated some sort of idea of what God means to me before i moved into a room of what God means to everyone else" I felt that 😢
You can still do that, Christianity is more than a belief system, it is a personal relationship with the living God. Reading the word of God and spending time in prayer can help you have a better relationship with your Father- God.
P.S. We are all on unique life journeys with different purposes, which shapes how we perceive God. He meets us where we are and reveals Himself according to our personal paths, but He remains the same faithful, loving Father to us all.
honestly you cannot be one foot in the world and the other in your religion. You have to decide how you want to live your life. As much as you guys want to justify being a lukewarm Christianity, it can never be the right way to live your life. At some point, the two lifestyles will be at war with one another.
Amen 🙌🏽 🙏🏾
Revelations 3:16-17🙌🏾
And you cannot serve two masters🥹
Louder please ma'am
ABSOLUTELY!
Real
Today(Friday) I was writing a test .On Wednesday I dreamt of the paper but only saw the structure of the paper with only long questions . On Thursday I told someone we laughed about it ,fast forward the paper was exactly that . According to the memo I passed the paper
Really would like to hear the conversation about religion and spirituality with you guys along with Mpho and Caiah.
real
yes!
Ayy bayasebenza abafana👏
kakhulu
Sebenza boys!😂
Loved this episode!❤ We should also bare in mind that the road to heaven feels like hell and the road to hell feels like heaven. We cannot be lukewarm Christians, it doesn't work out in the end. 🙌
the first will be last and the last will be first.
Well said ❤
I hope they see this comment!
Woaaahhh...this has me thinking
Thatho’s energy has lifted. You seem so much lighter and I am so pleased and watching you is pleasant again!
"Seventh day adventures" is crazy 😭😭😭as a Seventh day Adventist I can't help it but laugh....ehh🙆🏽♀️
The best days are the days “Seated” is dropped🎉🏆🌟
A faith-based book that teaches from biblical theology about dreams and the importance of interpretation of them is: The Power of Your Dreams - Stephanie Ike Okafor
🙏🏾
We do agree that "Christianity came with a boat" it has been proven and we were told. We do come to realise that our ancestors had different practices before Christianity was introduced by our colonies . Let's learn to not limit God over how He was introduced to us. God he knew things before they occurred, the colonies could've came from the sky and we would've said "Christianity came from the sky", they could've crawled to Africa and we would've said "Christianity crawled to us". God can use anything and anyone to let his Gospel be known. Nothing would stop his mandate and his plans for His word to be spread all over the world. What the enemy intended for evil and to colonise our minds and dim as "forgetting our African roots" God used it for good for us to get to have such podcasts where he's name is spread across the world. He would've done it otherwise. He is not limited by a boat to get His children to know Him. He is God of abundance and unlimited ways where it seems to be no way.
1. Where is it proven that Christianity came with a boat?
Before speaking on things, it is very important to do research and be willing to learn. Christianity has longggg been in Africa before colonization years. It's funny that we still have Africans who still want to justify their wrong beliefs and not want to educate themselves about what colonization did to our people spiritually. Brother/Sister, there's only one country in Africa that was never colonized, and that country holds the oldest bible and holds the truth about Jesus Christ and all. If that doesn't say anything to you, then I don't know.
2. So you mean to tell the people it's okay to be acknowledging ancestors who were depressed and suicidal because of colonization. 3. Ancestors who say they are for God but don't respect the Son of that God? 4. Roots of when men promoted pedophilia by making young girls dance in front of old men topless after hitting puberty just to be chosen by them?
A person with a good mindset will say it's not right, and culture/ Africa Roots were made to favor men. However, the God in the bible favors ALL HUMAN KIND.
1. There's only one country in Africa that was not colonized, and that country holds the oldest bible and the truth about Jesus Christ. If that doesn't say anything to you, then I don't know.
@@k.wena07the country is Ethiopia
Yho Lebo is speaking facts. It is harder for boys to go to church, my father doesn't doesn't go to church which causes my brother to make excuses on not to go to my mother.
Please can you do a part 2? I love this topic 😭👏🏼
Interesting conversation guys. I know without a single doubt that we would know which one is the right one because Jesus told us when He said I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me. Any faith or spirituality outside Christ in false and misleading. He is not an all inclusive God. He is one and can't be mixed or compared to any other deity. Danko
You guys articulate yourselves really well✨ . I really enjoyed this episode✨.
Thato you doing well my brother am a big fan of your work I actually look up to you which sounds wired to say coz we almost the same age anyway thts beside the point you rocking chief keep up with the good work
"Do you wanna go 1st or should i go 1st?" Lebo is so sweet man😂❤
I need a part 2 of this 😭😭
I love this conversation. Well done on being open about such a difficult topic. My take is everyone needs to always be open to new information because blind faith comes from believing someone else's reality for you and not your own
12:15 I fully agree Lebo. These short term fixtures are not the ones😭
We need more of this
When it comes to African spirituality, Deutoronomy 18:10-15, 1 Samuel 28:6-25, Luke 16:19-31.
Really enjoyed this conversation! 🫶🏽
This is such a profound conversation you guys, may God continue to bless you❤️❤️. Lebo preaching outchea🙌🙏
we love you guys❤️
And for my dreams remind me that the spiritual realm is more real than we think😭 cause vele we could’ve just seen black mara we don’t
The dream story time 😂😂😂 I wanted to try it so bad when it was trending Lebo is a star maaarn🔥
❤️I love that we tackle all conversations in this podcast ! Purr
wish yall had this with Caiah and Mammi🤭
This was such a great episode guys, thanks
Lebo can’t sit still and that’s why he needs a mic stand 😂😂 I’m such a fan though. Enjoyed the conversation guys ❤
Lebo~"Christianity came on a boat to Africa; we had religion before they came." indeed so, partially. Before the arrival of Christianity on the grounds of Africa, there was nothing called religion. We can our set of practices in place, which were responding to the then times. Such practices, among others, assumably involved going to mountains and asking for rain from the higher spirit, which is the mysterious creator. As an ideological state apparatus, religion, predominately Christianity, overcame those practices and demonized African practices. The African Spirituality Restoration should indeed be in contemporary conversations. Do we even question what was the main purpose of religion, or should we not "question the word of god" as we were taught. Practices and bodies of knowledge that depress autonomy and subjective perspectives (questioning) should be looked at properly on the grounds upon which they are anchored or their main purpose. African Spirituality is our Identity and we own that 👍👍
I have said this before on the thoughts digest podcast invite Joshua maponga and give us the views an insight in African spirituality from a knowledgeable aspect. Love your consistency.
😂😂😂😂😂nah they should bring someone younger it will make more sense I enjoy maphonga alot but I don't think this is the right platform
Maybe jakuja
@@morongwa1002look at this from a different perspective us young people need knowledge from an older person who have wisdom.
seventh day adventist church Lebo 🤗
Seventh day Adventist Lebo 😅😂
absolutely loved this conversation
I think we should have a part 2of this
I really loved these topics!🤍🥂always a great time with the Rampedis
41:25 "Sorry for touching you"😂😂😂😂 ohhh Lebo😂
I love the way you are both evolving and expanding your knowledge🤓👏👏👏
Good conversation 🔥🔥🔥
"CCZ" took me out 😂😂😂
I love loveeee that Lebo is exploring spirituality well both of them, And Lebo is right Posting bible verse and posting Konka cannot co-exist. We are called to not conform to the patterns of the world and Konka (groove) is a society norm we Christians should not conform to as it promotes and normalizes many many sins
Lol did we all have the same RE teacher Lebo !? 😂
I wish to be the Guest because the conversation they have 🔥🔥
Let’s work on getting lebo a mic stand. 😭
They said Lebo likes to hold the mic 🤣
@@phaly_aries maybe what we like might not be working as well as we thought 😬 the mic handling noise is just not it.
😂😂😂😂
Lebo needs to give Thato a chance to speak more. They're both so different and hearing from both sides adds more value, as opposed to just one aspect. ❤
“That why I said some”😂😂
We the "seaters" are back 😊
Insightful, I know someone who dreams and their dreams come to pass like 70% of the time, what can you say about that? Dwell a bit more on spirituality....maybe even have a guest for that.
Lebo is spirituality gifted
Enjoyed this episode so much guys. Please do an episode on conspiracy theories.
I'm already here❤
Here for this ❤
you will find yourself in Christ❤ There's no love like the love of Jesus Christ
Present 🖐️🔥🔥
I relate to Lebo so much😭😭
The narrative that Christianity came in boats or is a white man's religion is false.
Christianity has been in Africa for almost 2,000 years-long before European colonizers came. In fact, Ethiopia had Christian communities as early as the 1st and 4th centuries, making it one of the oldest regions where Christianity spread. African countries like Ethiopia even made Christianity their official religion over 1,000 years before colonizers arrived. So, Christianity has deep roots in Africa... And Ethiopia is the only African country that was never colonised!
i'm of the opinion that's why they were never colonized. In the whole of Africa, they were probably the only nation that was on fire for Jesus...well and Liberia maybe😅
Lebo has been plitting😂😂😂...he is tired....I feel you
I hope you're curiosity leads you to the kingdom because its all about the kingdom of God not religion
Jesus hated RELIGION
We are here 😌
It's Seven Days Adventist Church (SDA) Lebu 🥺
The dream realm is actually very important. Some accounts in the bible actually took place in dreams. When God told Ezekiel to prophesy to the bones, it actually happened in the dream realm. Daniel was known for his ability to dream and interpret dreams. Joseph was called a dreamer.
I enjoyed this install🤲🏾🤍
You guys are right on the part where you say all the religions are trying to be the top dog. 😂 GO WATCH ALL MYLES MUNROE SERMONS
You cannot have faith in God w/o reading the Bible(Romans 10:17). You cannot love the world and the things of the world and love God James 4:4-8, so no clubbing etc and loving God does not co-exist but we tell ourselves a lot of things as people and believe they are true. Christianity did not come to Africa as a whole on a boat research on the Ethiopian church and the bible actually also speaks of it Acts 8:26-30. All love btw😅❤
Let's take about Jeesuuusss
LEBO 'we we we we we" effortlessly funny
What Happened To As Majita?
Production Break
Lebo please hold the mic with one hand my G. Disturbing sounds when listening with earphones.
Re tlogele grammar neh
Yall must listen to Ps Stephanie Ike about dreams🤝🏾🤝🏾…
God with Jesus!❤Open the Holy book and never stop reading it, the truth is there.
Guys read the Bible and go to a church that is biblical. The world is selling a “Christianity” that isn’t in the Bible
So vele Lebo doesn't wanna give me a chance? 😂
Don’t let anyone else determine your relationship with Christ. I think the problem with us as Christians is we want to determine another person’s relationship with God. At the end of the day we are all sinners- what keeps us away from Gods love is other people’s judgement.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Seventh Day Adventist
The two brothers I never knew I needed in my life 🥹🥹….
Please talk about the difficulties of dating a girl who has childhood trauma. It can be from sexual abuse or physical abuse or emotional abuse.
God does speak through dreams, He spoke to Joseph when he wanted to divorce Mary. Matthew 1:20 But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21 She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” 22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet:
Bushiri Hogwarts???😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🔥🔥
Love the worst of you. ❤
the fact that you say u don't know until u die means you don't quite believe in Jesus Christ. He is the Way the Truth and the Life.
No mahn, this was too short for this topic.
Lebo listen to Thato
Lebo let me take you out to cows milk 😂😂😂
Guys what happened to as majita😢😢
How are you?????🔥
There is an explanation for existence.. some choose to call that God, some choose to call it Allah etc. If you document your experiance with this "explanation of existence" those that read it might call it a doctrine.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Winx
MOST people end up being religious because they're churched and not Saved! That is so sad to see because all it takes is faith and relationship...
Q ::: Why do you guys think there's more females then males in churches?
Isn’t science proven that female are more than male in this planet?
s/o to Lebo, you can't be at Konka and posting bible verses on your stories. It's like you're not even reading those scriptures, you're just doing it cause it's trendy. The very same book you're quoting warns us about being lukewarm which is basically being one foot in and one foot out like trying to intertwine Christianity and groove culture when they clearly repel each other like oil and water.
It would be interesting to study philosophy for non degree purposes
The first few minutes of this video were painful.. I love u guys but make the introduction more enticing
I enjoyed the middle not the beginning
I'm a long time viewer just giving feedback
Innit
😂😂😂lebo on some that's not the vibe
Go watch Myles Munroe sermons!!!!!!!!!
And Kanti where is Egypt😭😭
Y'all don't know what yall talking about, The human mind can never fathom how surreal, traumatic, scary and petrifying Hell is unles you experience it individually
Stop spreading that crap to the public, God will judge yall so harshly cause you have a platform and spreading blasphemy
Relax bro honestly
Lol hey u sound so much like a Pharisee
Have you been there bro bro ?😂
Weird comment. Relax.
Relax yoh