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    Tony Padilla discusses some of the shortest math papers to be published. From Conway to Nash.
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  • @RexGalilae
    @RexGalilae 7 років тому +7436

    the first one is purely savage. one simply doesn't get to fire shots at the king of mathematics like this guy did

    • @robiniekiller45
      @robiniekiller45 7 років тому +30

      Rex Galilae yeah

    • @MsKritiChauhan
      @MsKritiChauhan 7 років тому +353

      look up leonard euler. euler = king of maths. the first short paper disproved "euler's conjecture" by stating a counterexample, thus firing a shot at the "king of maths" (awesome comment, as evidenced by 180 likes in around 2 hrs :))

    • @TomParis51
      @TomParis51 7 років тому +133

      I think I can explain the metaphors he used:
      king of mathermatics: Euler
      to fire shots at: disproving him (or at least one of his conjectures)
      OP is certainly correct in saying that there arent many people who have achieved this in their life

    • @MasterJack2
      @MasterJack2 7 років тому +72

      I do not mean to offend you and if I am doing it anyway I am sorry, but you asked *what?* implying you didnt get it, he just wanted to make it clear for you since every evidence up there seemed to mean you didnt get it.

    • @uuu12343
      @uuu12343 7 років тому +17

      A. L.
      You should have used "Wut" LOL

  • @MrCheeze
    @MrCheeze 7 років тому +5643

    Not a fan of the second paper, they were clearly going out of their way to snipe the record for least words, even going so far as to sacrifice clarity and sensible formatting for that goal. The first paper you showed is far more elegant: it provides all the information anyone could reasonably ask for, and still only takes two sentences to do it.

    • @completeandunabridged.4606
      @completeandunabridged.4606 7 років тому +134

      MrCheeze At least it was a trickshot.

    • @5JSX5
      @5JSX5 7 років тому +446

      maybe they just did it for the hidden toucan pun (n+2 can)

    • @brian554xx
      @brian554xx 7 років тому +23

      5JSX5 I believe that would be ntoucan.

    • @theparkourhobo
      @theparkourhobo 7 років тому +257

      +Sen Zen Actually, Conway strikes me as a pretty playful guy. Trying to break the record for shortest paper just for fun seems like something he would do.

    • @alarageref2481
      @alarageref2481 7 років тому +90

      Also seems up his alley to publish a paper that doesn't achieve its main goal yet also be insightful

  • @WakenerOne
    @WakenerOne 7 років тому +2749

    Not mathematical, but when it comes to brevity in communication, the prize goes to Victor Hugo. Hugo went on vacation as Les Miserables was being published. Wanting to know how sales of the book were going, he wrote a letter to his publisher which read simply, "?"
    The publisher sent a response to the author which read "!"

    • @kevinwells9751
      @kevinwells9751 6 років тому +824

      Which was the one and only time Victor Hugo achieved brevity

    • @greenjelly01
      @greenjelly01 6 років тому +159

      Pity they didn't have emoticons back then.

    • @hoyohoyo922
      @hoyohoyo922 5 років тому +156

      He was just tired of writing at that point

    • @Hjtrne
      @Hjtrne 5 років тому +32

      That's not really brevity. It's just the only question he would ever have asked in that circumstance. Imagine sending a '?' to a random person, and getting a reply of 'what book, I'm not even a publisher'. That what would make sense, if the '?' was actually conveying information succinctly.

    • @jetison333
      @jetison333 5 років тому +146

      @@Hjtrne a large part of conveying information succinctly is know the context, and thus what you could leave out. This just happnes to be a case that you can leave out the whole question and still communicate successfully.

  • @miriamrosemary9110
    @miriamrosemary9110 7 років тому +2055

    (5:11) "The unsuccessful self-treatment of a case of writer's block" - I laughed so hard. Just brilliant.

    • @antoniolewis1016
      @antoniolewis1016 7 років тому +11

      +

    • @AxtheDragon
      @AxtheDragon 7 років тому +199

      Someone showed me that paper while I was writing my masters thesis... I was very tempted to squeeze it in as a citation somewhere :-)

    • @aykut04
      @aykut04 7 років тому +50

      I thought the same thing lol. I have a paper i'm working on right now, i think i could squeeze it in somewhere.
      Challenge Accepted!

    • @Halogrunt1234
      @Halogrunt1234 7 років тому +40

      if you look at the article on pubmed, there are tons of medical articles that do!

    • @starcubey
      @starcubey 6 років тому +7

      It is nice to know that you laughed and that you can quote a video with a time stamp, but why does this comment have 464 likes?

  • @adityakhanna113
    @adityakhanna113 7 років тому +3536

    It's like mathematicians spitting one liners and then dropping the mic.

    • @ravengaming4604
      @ravengaming4604 7 років тому +39

      this is one beautiful comment

    • @MrHSX
      @MrHSX 7 років тому +3

      +

    • @isabellabornberg2153
      @isabellabornberg2153 7 років тому +2

      Aditya Khanna +

    • @floridmonkey2723
      @floridmonkey2723 7 років тому +2

      +

    • @englishmuon1931
      @englishmuon1931 7 років тому +16

      Reminds me of Dr Caulfield lecturing DEs at cambs. He'd often finish the lecture by hitting his pen on the lectern, saying "drops the mic" and then walks out lol

  • @PhilBagels
    @PhilBagels 7 років тому +1527

    Someone should publish
    one of these shortest papers
    in haiku format.

    • @JohnnyDoeDoeDoe
      @JohnnyDoeDoeDoe 7 років тому +156

      PhilBagels
      Your comment is not
      appreciated nearly
      enough my dear friend

    • @otto9141
      @otto9141 7 років тому +9

      enough my _dear_ friend*
      FTFY

    • @otto9141
      @otto9141 7 років тому +11

      Tanmay Nandanikar You also were wrong
      in the middle line, because
      it was way too long.

    • @Summy_99
      @Summy_99 7 років тому +12

      +otto hammar a-ppre-ci-at-ed near-ly count them. There are 7. You're correct about the last line though

    • @Summy_99
      @Summy_99 7 років тому +1

      Ohhhh I feel like an idiot now. For some reason only your reply and the first one were showing up in the youtube app so I thought you were responding to the first one

  • @pitthepig
    @pitthepig 7 років тому +964

    I liked the blank "comprehensive overview of chemical-free consumer products". Some people should have to "read" it XD

    • @amperzand9162
      @amperzand9162 7 років тому +38

      I mean, if you count software it arguably shouldn't be blank. :V

    • @MagicGonads
      @MagicGonads 6 років тому +41

      Software uses ionic compounds and metallically bonded (soldered) materials which are chemicals.

    • @starcubey
      @starcubey 6 років тому +42

      But I thought organic foods don't have chemicals! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @MagicGonads
      @MagicGonads 6 років тому +14

      Also the silica and plastics used in the supportive structures are chemicals.
      And if you're talking about pure software, not even as stored data, then it will still have a chemical effect on your brain.

    • @qwerty687687
      @qwerty687687 6 років тому +10

      Software isn't a consumer product, though. When you use software, you don't consume it.

  • @DodderingOldMan
    @DodderingOldMan 7 років тому +2321

    I read a bit of John Nash's thesis. I didn't understand a word of it, but I did find a typo. I felt smart. No, wait, I mean... pathetic.

  • @PetraKann
    @PetraKann 7 років тому +1191

    TIL
    that "The Effects of Peanut Butter on the Rotation of the Earth", a
    study co-authored by hundreds of physicists, is only one sentence long:
    "So far as we can determine, peanut butter has no effect on the rotation
    of the earth."

    • @adamspaans8787
      @adamspaans8787 7 років тому +244

      Even better; does a decreasing number or pirates cause global warming?
      Abstract: The evidence says yes
      But this is a classic example or causation and correlation

    • @starcubey
      @starcubey 6 років тому +76

      Dang, and here I was thinking that the added mass would change the effect of gravity on the earth or something and that the conclusion was that if we gathered all of the peanut butter in the world in one spot, we could prolong the inevitable heat death of the earth by a few seconds somehow.

    • @gregthestoner6401
      @gregthestoner6401 6 років тому

      Wtf lol

    • @gkky-xx4mc
      @gkky-xx4mc 5 років тому +29

      @@adamspaans8787 Ah, I see you are an enlightened subject of His Holy Noodliness, too. R'amen

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat 5 років тому +17

      That's not a real paper, it's an article in the magazine "Annals of Improbable Research."

  • @onlyjohnrulz
    @onlyjohnrulz 7 років тому +134

    I think Riemann's paper "On the Number of Primes Less Than a Given Magnitude" deserves a mention. At 9 or 10 pages, it essentially founded analytic number theory, and states a hypothesis that remains one of the greatest unsolved problem in mathematics

  • @imeredithc
    @imeredithc 7 років тому +1010

    Another very short paper with a lot of impact per word is the paper that Watson and Crick wrote describing the structure of DNA--only 2 pages!

    • @VeteranVandal
      @VeteranVandal 7 років тому +90

      Yep. And it is kinda interesting (and easy) to read. Recommend to anyone checking it.

    • @prolleytroblems
      @prolleytroblems 7 років тому +6

      This was the first one that came to mind!

    • @VeteranVandal
      @VeteranVandal 7 років тому +54

      Aditya Khanna
      If by "stealing" you mean "acknowledging their sources in the second paragraph and by concluding it is a helix based on the Bessel function pattern that the diffraction pattern suggests, and by drawing the physical consideration that the bases are inside instead of outside", then sure they "stole".

    • @acockbur
      @acockbur 7 років тому +161

      Their last sentence probably has had the greatest impact of any in science: "It has not escaped our notice that the specific pairing we have postulated immediately suggests a possible copying mechanism for the genetic material."

    • @denisdaly1708
      @denisdaly1708 7 років тому +9

      Meredith Lee You know. It probably has greater impact. Well done.

  • @mrmimeisfunny
    @mrmimeisfunny 7 років тому +333

    1:28 that is the mathematician equivalent of clickbait

    • @matthewstuckenbruck5834
      @matthewstuckenbruck5834 5 років тому +15

      I actually heard Alexander Soifer speak and it definitely makes sense that he would write a clickbait paper

  • @spiffo5349
    @spiffo5349 7 років тому +212

    well the "The unsuccessful self-treatment of a case of 'writers block'" one has infinite impact per word, or perhaps an undefined impact

    • @midas8877
      @midas8877 5 років тому +1

      Infinity isn't defined

    • @thomas.thomas
      @thomas.thomas 3 роки тому +2

      or zero impact

    • @spiffo5349
      @spiffo5349 3 роки тому +5

      @@midas8877 correction: it is not well-defined

    • @xenotronia6681
      @xenotronia6681 2 роки тому

      @@midas8877 it is but okay

  • @xenialafleur
    @xenialafleur 7 років тому +374

    There is a short story by Edward Wellen titled If Eve had failed to conceive. It's zero words long.

    • @14112ido
      @14112ido 7 років тому +27

      Xenia Lafleur damn... it's pure genius.

    • @amisfitpuivk
      @amisfitpuivk 7 років тому +92

      There's another one called If Eve Really Did Conceive:
      Endless incest.

    • @jensen333
      @jensen333 7 років тому +5

      +Hi genius!

    • @ronfish8375
      @ronfish8375 5 років тому +16

      I should compile a condensed version of Christian scripture including only parts that were true.
      It also, would be zero words.

    • @avelkm
      @avelkm 4 роки тому

      @@amisfitpuivk given 5-10% of Neanderthal DNA, not always an incest.

  • @pluvius9265
    @pluvius9265 7 років тому +32

    While it's great to see my fellow West Virginian get recognized for having great short papers, as someone with a biology degree I have to give the impact-to-words-ratio award to Watson's and Crick's "A structure for deoxyribose nucleic acid," arguably the most important paper in the history of the life sciences. It fits on a single double-column page, and toward the end it contains this cute quote written as if the researchers had no idea of the enormity of what they'd discovered:
    "It has not escaped our notice that the specific pairing we have postulated immediately suggests a possible copying mechanism for the genetic material."

  • @seanflood7151
    @seanflood7151 7 років тому +212

    The urban myth is probably referring to George Dantzig, a statitician who solved previously unanswered problems that he had mistaken for homework.

    • @antanis
      @antanis 4 роки тому +13

      Isn't this the basis for goodwill hunting? And related to graph theory?

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 3 роки тому +23

      But that's not an urban myth: it actually happened.

    • @georgelionon9050
      @georgelionon9050 2 роки тому +30

      @@beeble2003 Yes and no. The story is true, but the PhD thesis was 57 pages long. So it's a 1 pager is the myth part.

    • @bimbogiallo
      @bimbogiallo Рік тому +6

      @@georgelionon9050 The story is also true in the sense that Danzig's supervisor told him not to worry about his PhD thesis as he could have just put the two papers in a binder and he'd have accepted it

    • @NoriMori1992
      @NoriMori1992 2 місяці тому

      @@bimbogiallo "A year later, when I began to worry about a thesis topic, Neyman just shrugged and told me to wrap the two problems in a binder and he would accept them as my thesis."

  • @colinmcgrail7109
    @colinmcgrail7109 7 років тому +454

    >Poissonian
    Something seems fishy about that

    • @cptn_n3m012
      @cptn_n3m012 5 років тому +16

      In french poisson means fish

    • @matty7834
      @matty7834 5 років тому +54

      @@cptn_n3m012 (that's the joke)

    • @jakimoretti7771
      @jakimoretti7771 5 років тому +44

      @@cptn_n3m012 he should've made a joke about it, right?

    • @hfyaer
      @hfyaer 4 роки тому +16

      I'm french so I got it but I don't understand why the french word for fish seems to be common knowledge here...

    • @nablahnjr.6728
      @nablahnjr.6728 4 роки тому

      alright Colin

  • @mah38900
    @mah38900 4 роки тому +14

    I had a professor who's Ph.D thesis was far shorter than normal. Only 19 or 20 pages. He was worried that his committee wouldn't let him pass his defense because of the unusual length. But they did. Paul Erdos was actually one of the people on the committee, too.

  • @LARAUJO_0
    @LARAUJO_0 4 роки тому +22

    Having tons of information just to meet certain writing criteria is a hugely annoying problem I have with modern sciences, so seeing these was a breath of fresh air.

  • @Spiderlanky
    @Spiderlanky 7 років тому +92

    The writers block one got me so deep in the feels that was amazing

  • @magnusdagbro8226
    @magnusdagbro8226 7 років тому +74

    In control theory, there's a paper titled "Guaranteed Margins for LQG Regulators" by John C. Doyle.
    Abstract "-There are none."

  • @Soliloquy084
    @Soliloquy084 7 років тому +1044

    I'll just say that a picture is worth a thousand words.

    • @TheEvilVargon
      @TheEvilVargon 7 років тому +46

      Does that then make it a long paper?

    • @Soliloquy084
      @Soliloquy084 7 років тому +45

      Based on the papers I've read, and with two figures giving it 2000 words, it's still on the short side, just maybe not as impressively short.

    • @featheredice
      @featheredice 7 років тому +30

      If £1 is worth a loaf of bread then does that mean I can make toast out of a £1 coin?

    • @TheEvilVargon
      @TheEvilVargon 7 років тому +20

      featheredice Now we are asking the real questions

    • @victorotene
      @victorotene 7 років тому +23

      Probably not.

  • @SuperPeacebreaker
    @SuperPeacebreaker 7 років тому +353

    get rekt Euler lol xD

    • @Ostebrix
      @Ostebrix 7 років тому +46

      too bad Euler wasnt alive anymore in 1966 xD he woulda been like "dang it I'm not perfect"

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 6 років тому +70

      "Dang, u got me there bro" - Euler, probably.

    • @martinshoosterman
      @martinshoosterman 4 роки тому +13

      @@Ostebrix realistically, if euler had still been alive im 1966 (assuming his mental faculties never deteriorated)
      First of all, hed have disproven himself a long time ago, second of all, hed probably have proven everything else.

    • @Ostebrix
      @Ostebrix 4 роки тому +12

      you see... when you respond to someone 2 years late you will very likely get this response:
      lol I don't remember watching this video or commenting that soooo whatever man

  • @power-max
    @power-max 7 років тому +172

    Thanks, this inspired me to put this much effort into a PhD!!! :D

  • @paulpeters5546
    @paulpeters5546 7 років тому +219

    Another short paper is the Abridged Table of Even Primes

    • @bi1iruben
      @bi1iruben 7 років тому +70

      Forget about the "Abridged" version, the full paper "Table of Even Primes" is shorter.

    • @ModKijko
      @ModKijko 7 років тому +54

      The abridged version doesn't include '2' but the the full table obviously does.

    • @msolec2000
      @msolec2000 7 років тому +52

      But the 2 is still shorter than the word "abridged".

    • @michaelbauers8800
      @michaelbauers8800 7 років тому +3

      I still feel uncomfortable that 2 is not a prime. But there's reasons... :)

    • @ianwalker6546
      @ianwalker6546 7 років тому +41

      Since when is 2 not a prime? Pretty certain it is! You might be thinking of 1, which is nowadays excluded from the primes by virtue of the fact that many, many theorems would have to be re-stated with 1 as a special case, including the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic.
      2 isn't a Gaussian prime though, but neither are 5, 13, 17... etc.

  • @matthewmcclure8799
    @matthewmcclure8799 5 років тому +22

    two short important papers:
    E. W. Dijkstra, 'A note on two problems in connexion with graphs', Num. Math. (computer science: canonical shortest path algorithm)
    E. Gettier, 'Is true justified belief knowledge?', Analysis (philosophy: refutation of the classical model of knowledge since Plato)
    both are about two-and-a-half pages

  • @memertarian2434
    @memertarian2434 3 роки тому +20

    "Alright class, so for this essay there's no word requirement, just give a complete answer"

  • @williamnathanael412
    @williamnathanael412 3 роки тому +12

    I kinda hoped Gettier's paper "Is Justified True Belief Knowledge?" made the cut.

  • @NothingMaster
    @NothingMaster 4 роки тому +9

    Tony Padilla is incredibly interesting to listen to; it’s his enthusiasm about math that’s captivating and inspiring.

    • @DrKaii
      @DrKaii Рік тому

      I saw this exact comment on another one of his vids. Was that u?

  • @daiduongdaviddinh140
    @daiduongdaviddinh140 4 роки тому +122

    Is 1+1=2?
    Abstract.
    Sometimes.
    References
    E. Galois, A. Grohendieck, S. Ramanujan

    • @MikeRosoftJH
      @MikeRosoftJH 4 роки тому +22

      The two expressions are equal, but you have messed up the reference. The correct reference is: Alfred North Whitehead and Bertrand Russell, Principia Mathematica, volume 2, page 86. ("The above proposition is occasionally useful.")

    • @duncanw9901
      @duncanw9901 4 роки тому +6

      @@MikeRosoftJH 1+1=0 in Z/2Z

    • @escapeadil
      @escapeadil 4 роки тому +6

      @@MikeRosoftJH I found Principia Mathematica vol. 2 but couldn't see 1+1=2. What might I be doing wrong?! Is it definitely on page 86? EDIT - never mind, I see it now. Just looks confusing!

    • @jakobunfried2669
      @jakobunfried2669 4 роки тому +1

      @@duncanw9901 so the correct answer is "depends on the 1 and 2" =)

    • @AviMehra
      @AviMehra 3 роки тому +1

      @@duncanw9901 but then 0=2. The reason it is always true is that 2 is defined as 1+1

  • @polymarc2171
    @polymarc2171 7 років тому +3

    One of the shortest thesis was the thesis by C.N. Yang. His thesis was published as "On the Angular Distribution in Nuclear Reactions and Coincidence Measurements" and was about 30 pages, but apparently, it took his advisor Teller had quite a bit of trouble getting Yang to make his thesis longer. Teller kept asking him to extend his results, although even the original 4 or 5 pages would have been sufficient for a Ph.D. I heard this while doing my Ph.D. at Stony Brook, but I can't confirm it personally.

  • @KC-dw6yz
    @KC-dw6yz 6 років тому +4

    In terms of impact factor per word, I'd like to also suggest Leo Esaki's original paper announcing the creation of the tunnel diode: it is titled 'New Phenomenon in Narrow Germanium p-n Junctions'. It's one page long, has hand drawn bandgap diagrams, and won the Nobel Prize in Physics for it's author!

  • @jacoblastname5966
    @jacoblastname5966 7 років тому +48

    12 seconds after being posted and it's in my recommended

  • @johannesderspinner
    @johannesderspinner 5 років тому +25

    In philosophy there is a three page paper ("Is Justified True Belief Knowledge?" by Edmond Gettier), which had a huuuge impact on the subject.

    • @mateusgabriel3013
      @mateusgabriel3013 5 років тому +1

      Came here to comment this.

    • @KucheKlizma
      @KucheKlizma 4 роки тому +2

      What's the total KDA? How does it compare to The Communist Manifesto by K.M.?

  • @ITR
    @ITR 7 років тому +47

    "Is it possible to get a one-page paper written in Liberation Serif with font size 65 published in a peer reviewed scientific journal?"
    That would fill up a 8.50'' x 11.00'' page with 1.00'' margins.

    • @mmmmmmmmmmmmm
      @mmmmmmmmmmmmm 5 років тому +2

      But the margins will be too small to fit it

    • @sipos0
      @sipos0 3 роки тому +2

      Whether it is possible or not would probably depend on your definition of scientific. I don't think it is possible unless there is a disappointingly bad peer reviewed scientific journal, or you have a very broad definition of scientific.

  • @androidkenobi
    @androidkenobi 7 років тому +30

    1974 seems to have been a hilarious year for papers

  • @Dan1elAndrade
    @Dan1elAndrade 7 років тому +29

    Proof that 1+1=2
    First: Sum is defined as moving on the number line b units from a when a+b.
    Second: Define the first integers (0, 1, 2, 3, 4... )
    By this definition to add a 1 means to move on the number line from a to the next number. By the second definition 2 is the next number after 1.
    1+1=2 true
    QED

    • @Dan1elAndrade
      @Dan1elAndrade 7 років тому +3

      It kinda is, but is true.
      Other way of saying it is:
      1+1 is defined as being equal to 2
      And from then on we can create maths.
      And it is actually true, because that's the reason we know 1+1=2 because it's defined as such.

    • @ganjanaut6038
      @ganjanaut6038 7 років тому +1

      What's the point of mentioning QED when we know 1 is less already (true)

    • @Dan1elAndrade
      @Dan1elAndrade 7 років тому

      Because I wanted to give it a shoot at my short proof :D

    • @ganjanaut6038
      @ganjanaut6038 7 років тому

      +Ganjanaut that might come off as an anti particle

    • @ganjanaut6038
      @ganjanaut6038 7 років тому

      Grounds control for direction of the pilot

  • @astropgn
    @astropgn 7 років тому +6

    The article that revealed to the world the helicoidal structure of our DNA is also very short and concise. I think it has the same impact that Nash paper had, but for the sciences of life

  • @goshisanniichi
    @goshisanniichi 7 років тому +3

    I was always under the impression that it was Gauss's proof of the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra that was the super short one. I looked for but could not find any scan of it or anything to substantiate that.

  • @allyourcode
    @allyourcode 7 років тому +12

    Oh man, I love the chemistry one. Classic XD

  • @haleffect9011
    @haleffect9011 7 років тому +12

    That one on writer's block is brilliant

  • @knuthalvorsen1196
    @knuthalvorsen1196 7 років тому +29

    Task: Write about laziness.
    Answer: This is laziness.
    He got an A. This is lore from my country.

    • @marmelade5118
      @marmelade5118 3 роки тому +4

      Here we tell it with "What is risk?" "This is risk."

    • @Unelith
      @Unelith 3 роки тому +2

      Task: Name 5 of your biggest flaws
      Answer:
      1. Laziness

  • @CaryInVictoria
    @CaryInVictoria 4 роки тому +1

    Very interesting and entertaining! I had a friend whose Ph.D. thesis (UC Berkeley) was 15 pages long. It dealt with a problem in queueing theory. I think that for most of us holding that degree it didn't take long to come to the realization that our thesis was really quite bad.

  • @jamesdecross1035
    @jamesdecross1035 4 роки тому +1

    I do like this guy and his enthusiasm for his subject.

  • @johndoeing
    @johndoeing 7 років тому +147

    But what were the LONGEST papers/thesis?

    • @100najaja
      @100najaja 5 років тому +37

      Classification of finite simple groups

    • @FM-kl7oc
      @FM-kl7oc 5 років тому +143

      "The complete list of all integers" by Chuck Norris (2005)

    • @dog_owner
      @dog_owner 5 років тому +10

      A proof that TREE(3) is finite (which has yet to exist).

    • @someperson5137
      @someperson5137 5 років тому +1

      dog Then you get to TREE(4) lol

    • @dog_owner
      @dog_owner 5 років тому +1

      No TREE(4) doesn't need a proof

  • @rickrijpers4730
    @rickrijpers4730 7 років тому +4

    Just needed this after a boring day of school

  • @BrunoTaglietti
    @BrunoTaglietti 5 років тому

    This is my favorite video of the channel. And it is a tough competition.

  • @rosiefay7283
    @rosiefay7283 7 років тому +1

    Another short paper with great impact is: Marcel Golay. Notes on Digital Coding. Proc. IRE. 37 (1949): 657. It described the error-correcting codes now known as Golay codes, which have proved useful in digital transmission over noisy channels.

  • @greenhorntenderfoot9261
    @greenhorntenderfoot9261 7 років тому +4

    Very cool stuff! It would be interesting to try measure the complexity of letters sent out by an organization using a computer program that measures the complexity of words as well as the length of sentences and look to see if there is a connection between the complexity of the letters and the number of people that contact the organization seeking clarification. Essentially is there an optimum length and complexity of a letter?

  • @JackLe1127
    @JackLe1127 7 років тому +35

    1:25 wait John Conway the game of life guy?

    • @capitalist88
      @capitalist88 7 років тому +8

      Yes! :) He's been in some of Brady's videos.

    • @JackLe1127
      @JackLe1127 7 років тому

      ooooooh

    • @ZardoDhieldor
      @ZardoDhieldor 7 років тому +18

      Don't let Mr. Conway hear that! He hates when people only take about his game.

    • @alexanderstiefelmann5982
      @alexanderstiefelmann5982 7 років тому +2

      My first associations with the name Conway are even more obscure. Chained arrow notation and surreal numbers.

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 7 років тому +1

      You mean one of the fathers of the ATLAS of finite groups? The discoverer of the Conway group? The man who made a digital computer out of urinal parts?

  • @albertocattaneo4627
    @albertocattaneo4627 7 років тому

    Another nice one, in algebraic geometry, is Beauville-Donagi paper about the Fano variety of lines on a cubic fourfold: 3 pages long and it is one of the most cited papers in the field...

  • @pinkdispatcher
    @pinkdispatcher 7 років тому +2

    I also heard that myth about the famous 1-page thesis in school, but didn't think much of it except as a motivation for making your point as concise as possible.

  • @jonproxy2758
    @jonproxy2758 7 років тому +3

    one of the only trending videos that isn't an ad

  • @pablogriswold421
    @pablogriswold421 7 років тому +31

    I think the legendary thesis about which you were taking was George Danzig's.

    • @kolumdium
      @kolumdium 7 років тому +5

      I think you are missing a t in George Dantzig. Do you know which paper exactly?

    • @pablogriswold421
      @pablogriswold421 7 років тому +7

      karatekid You're sure right! My phone autocorrected to Danzig, bit his name was indeed Dantzig. I think the paper was On the Fundamental Lemma of Neyman and Pearson.

    • @michaelbauers8800
      @michaelbauers8800 7 років тому +3

      Hold me closer George Danzig. Now that I read that attempt at humor, it wasn't as funny as thought it might be

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 7 років тому +2

      That paper is a mammoth, it is almost full 7 pages long!

    • @pablogriswold421
      @pablogriswold421 7 років тому +1

      U.V. S. Hope that's sarcasm... Poe's Law?

  • @Locut0s
    @Locut0s 7 років тому +1

    What I like about the first example is that it shows a very early example of the use of computing power to produce proofs or disproofs. The CDC 6600 mentioned is an early mainframe. I know many have a natural distaste for any kind of mathematical proof or disproof that heavily involves brute force computing. Well it seems to have a long history dating back to the early computers.

  • @BenScooter1
    @BenScooter1 7 років тому

    Haven't watched any Numberphile videos in a while, but chanced upon this one and enjoyed it :P

  • @General12th
    @General12th 7 років тому +31

    Now I want to write a paper with the title, "How many theses that end with a question answer that question in the abstract?", and then cite that very paper in the abstract.

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 3 роки тому

      Better to go for the paradox with "How many papers whose title is a question _do not_ answer that question in the abstract?"

  • @slingshotninja6970
    @slingshotninja6970 7 років тому +716

    when you want your P.Hd but you lazy AF

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 7 років тому +35

      But to be honest. You only need to be more intelligent than the on who could explain your findings.. You just do it and avoid the unnecessary bits.. :D

    • @Roflwes
      @Roflwes 7 років тому

      rkan2 p

    • @ConManAU
      @ConManAU 7 років тому +75

      As Blaise Pascal probably said (but has since been attributed to all the people these quotes are usually attributed to), "I apologise for writing such a long letter. I would have written a shorter one, but I didn't have the time."

    • @JivanPal
      @JivanPal 5 років тому +5

      *Ph.D.

    • @loveforsberg530
      @loveforsberg530 4 роки тому +5

      Arguably the whole point of mathematics is condensation of information, in an accessible way.

  • @trueverdicts685
    @trueverdicts685 5 років тому +1

    The second paper was so well phrased. So short yet so clear..

  • @hjaltesejrasmussen2626
    @hjaltesejrasmussen2626 6 років тому

    Hey, first time commenting, thanks for some amazing content. Since Euler's conjecture is not true, could you do a video on how he reached his conclusion? and if possible, what he left out to reach his (untrue) conjecture?

  • @Callerooo
    @Callerooo 7 років тому +28

    There was a Numberphile video with James Grim where he talked about a student who was late to a class and misunderstood an assignment. He thought your were suppose to solve the assignment but it was, up until then, not solved. However, he solved it and James said that when he wanted to do a PHD his professor said that he only needed turn in the proof he made. Could that be the short PHD thesis they talk about? Can't remember the video though

    • @azlan194
      @azlan194 7 років тому +1

      Are you talking about A Beautiful Mind movie reference?

    • @JannikPitt
      @JannikPitt 7 років тому +4

      Georg Dantzig was the name of the matematician +NaCl on my food

    • @spyone4828
      @spyone4828 7 років тому +30

      I remember this, but not from a Numberphile video. I found it on TV tropes, in a list of people who did something thought to be impossible because they didn't know it was supposed to be impossible.
      Here is the entry from their page "Achievements In Ignorance":
      (Quote)In 1939, George Dantzig, a mathematics graduate student, arrived late in class and copied what he thought was homework written on the blackboard. After taking longer than usual to solve the problems, he apologized to his professor for his lateness and turned them in. What he didn't know was that what he copied wasn't homework but two unsolved statistics theorems, the proofs of which he published. To this day, colleges and professors will sometimes place previously unsolved problems like these in with other more mundane problems on "entrance exams" or other evaluative tests, just to see if some brilliant young student who hasn't heard about the problem not being solved yet can find a solution nobody else thought to try.
      Dantzig's story eventually morphed into the Urban Legend of the student that was late for an exam and barely completed all the problems on the board only for him to be told that the final problem(s) were "unsolvable" problems and that he made history. The legend can be traced to Reverend Robert Schuller, whom Dantzig once met and told him about the blackboard incident only for Schuller to add the embellishments found in the legend.(End Quote)

    • @generic_programmer
      @generic_programmer 6 років тому +2

      It's from the numberphile video about the problem in Will Hunting

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 3 роки тому

      @@JannikPitt George, not Georg. He was born in the USA and named after George Bernard Shaw.

  • @musictest9999
    @musictest9999 7 років тому +136

    Does P=NP?
    No.
    -Nataly RAW, 2016

    • @nathan791
      @nathan791 7 років тому +27

      If N=1 or P=0

    • @Max-eo7lz
      @Max-eo7lz 7 років тому +25

      It's a joke, because the question whether P = NP (which are Complexity Classes, not variables) is still an unsolved problem in Information Technology.

    • @Croix1
      @Croix1 7 років тому +4

      does p=np?
      yes.
      me, 2016

    • @wulf2121
      @wulf2121 7 років тому +2

      if that were true, we could instantly forget any algorithm-based encryption.
      (Quantum encryption and truly randomized one-time-codes would still work though)

    • @cecasiahaan6801
      @cecasiahaan6801 7 років тому +3

      Nataly RAW What is the symbol of the 53rd element of the periodic table?
      I.
      -ceca siahaan 2016

  • @morgard211
    @morgard211 6 років тому

    I had exactly same idea as Euler had on his conjecture on first paper. I would'nt even dare to disprove it, because it seems so natural.

  • @tomelifeisjustonebig
    @tomelifeisjustonebig 4 роки тому +1

    Tony and Holly are the best subjects / presenters because they’re the sort you’d love to sit down and have a beer with.

  • @NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself
    @NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself 7 років тому +3

    "Unsuccessful Self-treatment of Writer's Block" - LOL!

  • @buzzy33
    @buzzy33 4 роки тому +6

    I love how the first paper just burned Euler with only one page. 👏

  • @di5perat039
    @di5perat039 7 років тому +1

    Also quite short: E. Nelson wrote a paper "A proof of Liouville's theorem" (Proc. Amer. Math. Soc 12 (1961), 995) consisting of 9 lines of text
    A bit longer, but with a very short title: N. G. Meyers & J. Serrin: H=W (Proc. Nat. Aca. Sci. 51 (1964), 1055-1056 )

  • @IamGrimalkin
    @IamGrimalkin 7 років тому +1

    Einstein's PhD theses (A New Determination of Molecular Dimensions) is the same length as Nash's in pages but quite a bit less in wordcount, and it had rather a large impact.

  • @repmel
    @repmel 6 років тому +16

    Okay, here's my shot:
    Is the Riemann Hypothesis true?
    Probably.

    • @gbx5180
      @gbx5180 4 роки тому +1

      Prove it!

  • @Hecatonicosachoron
    @Hecatonicosachoron 7 років тому +7

    Did Wittgenstein not submit theTractatus as his PhD thesis? Probably in terms of effortless theses this must be one of the best historical exaples of the 20th c.

  • @WillKrause21
    @WillKrause21 5 років тому

    This showed up on my page on April 1. Feels appropriate.

  • @rafaelgpontes
    @rafaelgpontes 6 років тому

    I'm happy I came across this video. :)

  • @robotguy
    @robotguy 7 років тому +27

    The shortest abstract ever was in Physics, and contained no words at all.
    E=mc². The paper itself is only four pages long, and although it didn't win Einstein a Nobel (he got two others for Brownian motion and the photoelectric effect), it is the most famous equation in the world.

    • @talltroll7092
      @talltroll7092 6 років тому +16

      Which is impressive, considering that, strictly speaking, it is not the correct equation

    • @NXTangl
      @NXTangl 5 років тому +1

      Tall Troll Unless you understand m as relative mass, as modern physicists take it, and not rest mass.

    • @JohnDoe-ti2np
      @JohnDoe-ti2np Рік тому +1

      "Ist die Trägheit eines Körpers von seinem Energieinhalt abhängig?" is actually three pages long, but it had no abstract. Also, Einstein won only one Nobel Prize, for the photoelectric effect.

  • @Pouk3D
    @Pouk3D 7 років тому +27

    The writer's block one is genius.

  • @peterells1720
    @peterells1720 6 років тому +1

    "Unknotting spheres in five dimensions" by EC Zeeman, 1960, is great. It is ~200 words long, including generalising the proof to unknotting n-spheres. It is available as a pdf online.

  • @justmeIPromise
    @justmeIPromise 7 років тому

    wow,i love you Numberphile, you showed me how big can be the math world

  • @singerofsongs468
    @singerofsongs468 7 років тому +40

    The Chemical-Free paper is hilarious.

  • @kennstedas
    @kennstedas 7 років тому +4

    Check out Edmund Gettier, he crushed contemporary Epistemology based on Plato in like 3 pages

    • @neiloppa2620
      @neiloppa2620 7 років тому +1

      kennstedas what's that?

    • @BulentBasaran
      @BulentBasaran 7 років тому

      Sorry, meant to reply to your question, but, mis-placed it above..

  • @tolgacorbaci4648
    @tolgacorbaci4648 5 років тому +2

    Tinbergen's Phd thesis also very short. It simply shows that wasp recognize their home with visual landmarks around.

  • @samhit3431
    @samhit3431 7 років тому

    WOW!!!
    The video intrigues me to pursue !

  • @MartinMenky
    @MartinMenky 7 років тому +136

    wait till you see my first paper haha

    • @froidesprit
      @froidesprit 7 років тому +37

      Martin Menkyna was that it?

    • @MartinMenky
      @MartinMenky 7 років тому +13

      MichaelKingsfordGray it's not gonna be THAT bad .. hopefully :D

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 7 років тому

      MichaelKingsfordGray 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @MitchBurns
    @MitchBurns 7 років тому +3

    I actually didn't know that triangle thing before. Also, the triangle you started with, the one with length 2 with 4 inside of it, that looked suspiciously like the Triforce from Zelda.

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys 7 років тому +7

      Yes. The triforce has always been very similar in nature to several things. Notably the fractal pattern referred to as 'the Sierpinski triangle'
      You do sometimes wonder what influences game designers sometimes...

    • @MitchBurns
      @MitchBurns 7 років тому +3

      KuraIthys I have a feeling the triforce was just 3 triangles put together to form a bigger triangle with and upside down triangle between them.

  • @theFORZA66
    @theFORZA66 7 років тому

    i never understanf why some of these are so long. imo the best way to explain something is short and sweet.

  • @cveo1971
    @cveo1971 6 років тому +1

    5:15 I applaud Dennis Upper for his effort to overcome a writer's block.

  • @CliveWolfe
    @CliveWolfe 7 років тому +26

    Einsteins' paper on Mass-energy equivalence i.e. E = mc2 is only 2.5 pages. That's got to be up there?

    • @edminchau811
      @edminchau811 5 років тому +6

      That paper had one of the shortest abstracts ever. The whole abstract was:
      E=mc^2

  • @CaptainCalculus
    @CaptainCalculus 7 років тому +7

    Isn't Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity only 13 pages long? Surely that would be up there in the #words vs impact section

  • @kamirimourad
    @kamirimourad 7 років тому

    very nice episode!

  • @int_fx_dx
    @int_fx_dx 7 років тому +1

    Einstein's 1905 paper where he introduces E=mc^2 is also about one page long (it's not his first relativity 1905 paper, but the second one).

  • @geraldmerkowitz4360
    @geraldmerkowitz4360 7 років тому +6

    The actual shortest story I was told about is this one :
    "The last man on Earth sat alone in a room. There was a knock on the door..."
    -*Knock*, Fredric Brown, 1948

    • @ModKijko
      @ModKijko 7 років тому +9

      For sale: baby shoes, never worn

    • @geraldmerkowitz4360
      @geraldmerkowitz4360 7 років тому

      mod prime
      I had to think about it twice before understanding it

    • @RobinDSaunders
      @RobinDSaunders 7 років тому +1

      KNOCK KNOCK.
      "Who's there?"
      DEATH.
      "Death wh-"

    • @leungchoihung2465
      @leungchoihung2465 7 років тому

      sarcastic bowl of cornflakes
      "Me
      We"

    • @cecasiahaan6801
      @cecasiahaan6801 7 років тому

      Aniyoyo 良采康 LIGHGHT

  • @charilaosmylonas5046
    @charilaosmylonas5046 7 років тому +5

    Not a "very" short paper, but Fourier's idea to use... well... Fourier series for solving the heat equation was in a 6 page paper. Here's your winner for influence/content per "words".

    • @zokalyx
      @zokalyx 5 років тому

      Indeed. This drastically changed many fields of physics, as well as mathematics. I mean, who would have thought quantum mechanics would use it?

  • @MichaelEdelman1954
    @MichaelEdelman1954 4 роки тому +1

    Kenneth Arrow’s PhD thesis is another contender for shortest length and greatest influence. The story goes that the math department where he was studying rejected it, and so he shopped it around to different departments, ending up in economics,where they recognized its brilliance. It eventually led to his Nobel prize.

  • @bananabenana
    @bananabenana 6 років тому +1

    I love these videos

  • @Paul_K_
    @Paul_K_ 7 років тому +9

    Look up Edmund Gettier. He disproved a philosophical definition that was accepted for thousands of years in a 2 page paper.

    • @StefanTravis
      @StefanTravis 7 років тому +1

      You mean: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_problem ...?
      The notion of "justified true belief" mixes up two epistemologies anyway, so is probably incoherent.

  • @PaulBennett
    @PaulBennett 7 років тому +29

    Huffman's thesis was 12 pages.

    • @MrSzybciutki
      @MrSzybciutki 7 років тому +93

      after, or before compression?

    • @PaulBennett
      @PaulBennett 7 років тому +27

      klingt net you're not wrong. His famous paper on entropy coding was not his thesis. My mistake.

    • @fabiangiesen306
      @fabiangiesen306 7 років тому +7

      Yeah, "A Method for the Construction of Minimum-Redundancy Codes" was not his thesis, it was a term paper. :) He was supposed to show optimality of Shannon-Fano codes, which are broadly similar but use a top-down subdivision construction (recursively split the set of symbols trying to keep the weights of both subsets as close as possible). Turns out that's not optimal, but Huffman's bottom-up procedure (repeatedly merge the two lowest-weight subsets) is.

    • @grlt23
      @grlt23 7 років тому +1

      You Sir, has won few internets by this comment :)

  • @towertopvids
    @towertopvids 7 років тому +1

    As far as the "myth" at then end, the only thing that comes to mind is the story of George Dantzig. He arrived late to class one day and saw problems on the board that he thought were assigned for homework. He then turned those papers in to the professor, apologizing for his tardiness. His "homework" provided solutions to two open problems in statistics. His adviser told him to just put those two problems together for his thesis.

  • @ambulocetusnatans
    @ambulocetusnatans 3 роки тому

    Great video. I watch a lot of content from the UK, but I never knew that you pronounce "Epsilon" differently from the US.

  • @thomassynths
    @thomassynths 7 років тому +101

    Conway's paper doesn't specify constraints on epsilon, so the whole paper is incorrect in the case epsilon > 1.

    • @DarkMaple68
      @DarkMaple68 7 років тому +79

      epsilon ist generally assumed to be

    • @ZipplyZane
      @ZipplyZane 7 років тому +2

      Wouldn't it be >n?

    • @DarkMaple68
      @DarkMaple68 7 років тому +12

      no, for epsilon>1 you would need 2n+1 more. therefore, the statement is false for n>1.

    • @ZipplyZane
      @ZipplyZane 7 років тому +3

      DarkMaple68 I think I'm getting the terminology messed up. I was thinking n was the size of the small triangle, when n is the size of the big triangle.

    • @covalencedust2603
      @covalencedust2603 7 років тому +4

      Ye, the paper was obviously a joke or so. Maybe they made it that short on purpose as a bet or something.

  • @BehavingBeaver
    @BehavingBeaver 7 років тому +10

    7:35 I don't know how long his paper was but George Dantzig accidentally solved two open problems in statistical theory, which he had mistaken for homework

  • @alwinpriven2400
    @alwinpriven2400 7 років тому +2

    Hey maybe you should do a video about Pell's equations? They're quite interesting

  • @jantube358
    @jantube358 Рік тому

    I can imagine there could be an engineering thesis from the 20th century with only a few pages because there were so many inventions from so many young engineers in such hard times.