Mostly cause the Fomorians keep getting shot down nowadays and the power cores keep getting stolen. At this point it’s just every other Wednesday that Vay Hek tries and blow up a relay.
Never got to play the raids, really started playing after their removal, so I can't speak to how fun some of the aspects of them seem to be, but I will say I do like the feeling of actively going on the offensive against the the factions these raids seemed to convey, rather than the sort of disparate strikes that the nodes and even Sorties seem to be.
EXACTLY BRO! i really want raids to come back or at least something similar, The Archon Hunts seemed like that at launch untill people discovered Incarnons and Kuva Hek Existed lol, same with Eidolon hunts untill peoole started Solo Tricapping them with todays meta lol
With the variety of Warframes we have now, if they return this with the ability to have 6 players, it wouldn't be much a challenge. Especially with the Helminth system and the Frankensteins we all might've made
I started playing when Plains of Eidolon dropped. So I never saw the Raid. I only heard of it. I played Destiny Raids and really liked them. I just have no idea how one would work with all the OP frames. Destiny Raids worked well becuase the abilities, gear and traversal options players had access to was very specific and limited, so they could be designed around. Warframe has so many ways to play its crazy. I mean that as a compliment. The current way to challenge endgame players is 1. Limit loadout selection 2 Add several permanent/ temporary debuffs. 3 Increase damage attenuation/ invincible periods for enemies. I'm kinda at a loss on how to challenge 4 players who have modded to do literally millions of dps. It's a strange place to be as a game designer for sure. I applaud them for taking wild creative risks, often.
Destiny has the best raids of any game but good LORD you do not want to play destiny. Trust me. I'm a beta player and top 1% raider, and the ONLY thing I enjoy about this fucking game is the raids.
I used to be able to play this, but back then I was just a newbie, afraid of trying hard things. Now i can only watch this, and regret for what I have missed.
I was such a noob in 2017, I didn't understand anything about the game, and by the time I understood how to look for groups and get into activities the raid had been removed from the game lmao. Though, from the video, it doesn't look like I missed much. DE has said that they'd like to bring raids back, so maybe we'll see them again one day.
I do miss Raids and remember them well. Even though it won't matter, important parts are: 1) You wanted an EV Trinity and StompAoE Rhino in ever raid (vauban was an alternative pick). Rhino / Vauban would stun everything on map and EV trin keeps every energy full. This is because requires like 300 energy to charge the bomb (on nightmare standing on switch pads also drains 10 energy per second). 2) On Nightmare difficulty, the escort payload instantly dies if it get electrified on the rail. Also raids existed before people had the Operator Ability which meant you HAD to have people open the door with you (you could do it later solo now with operator). On second mission, the giant switch room has requirement to hack a terminal which then reveals an image and then you need to stand on the large yellow pad with the correct image and repeat this process until every single person is on a pad. At any moment a person steps off a pad that is pressed, it instantly downs all players on pads and you have to start process over. And of course on nightmare, you lose 10 energy per second on said pads. Third mission is just fancy door stuff while doing the bomb stuff (similar to mission 1, except the door pads are very far away and you need to find them. You can always follow the wire). Nightmare mods also introduced these nully drones that would prevent player usage of warframe abilities while inside them. I don't think they however acted like nullifiers because I 'think' you could still affect enemies with warframe abilities while inside a nully zone. I use to do teaching raids with newbies where had myself and another experienced player with 6 newbies. It was pretty fun. But ideally, if you wanted to speedrun it you would run 4 people instead of 8. I imagine they got rid of it due to outdated things but also because of requiring 4+ players (can't do solo play) and issues when host left AND how people would generally be toxic with other players. The raid itself is quite punishing against players that don't know what they are doing as everything requires some form of coordination (even opening a door). Also I heard the the Devs really really didn't like people glitching/cheesing the second raid Jordas Verdict (which I also taught had also had some annoying coordination in archwing form).
I think if they removed conclave today anyone barely would quit the game. I dont even think that people play this game for conclave. But when LOR was removed there was chaos.
Wow this seems like a fun concept like a bonus mission when first successfully stop vat her or the corpus from destroying our relays but then we return the favor back to them which I hope sometime in the future the devs rethink of bringing back this mission type especially being thier actively working on cross play and all that but who knows
I remembered when I was a noob and getting carried to knowing what to do in this mission. I was learning and growing up as a warframe player. But these memories were fading away the longer the time have passed…
This is how I feel. This was one of my first warframe "accomplishments" and I remember one vivid scene of me standing on a plate in the shipyard haha. I miss those days. And like you said, it's slowly fades. I wear the Sekhara I got from it to this day.
I understand the extreme power fantasy that is Warframe makes it hard to make raids work, but honestly if they even captured like the essence of raids from Destiny it would be absolutely insane. I’m at end game Warframe and kinda feel like I have nothing else to do anymore. Finish my SP and reg circuit run, archon hunt, EDA, all syndicates are maxed, have every frame… just wishing we had a cool thing to farm. Something to keep us on our toes that isn’t “here, how many crap modifiers can we push on you, before just actually taking your weapons and frame next?” Idk, wishful thinking I guess, but Warframe has been such a wonderful experience and I’m kinda underwhelmed by the end of it.
With damage attenuation and all of warframes obscure features they have plenty to work with if they get creative. Like we had tau damage resistance but it's worthless 90% of the time. Maybe only around scarlet spear was it ok. Even narmer missions it's just there to be thematic with umbral mods and barely does anything noticeable. They also have so many gamemodes that they could use for raid mechanics that would seamlessly fit and probably make sense. And I get that feeling, I left WF for a few years because of it. And then kept making more open worlds which was same shit different day. And funny because a lot of new warframe difficulty IS "we take your weapons away", like how you mentioned EDA and SP circuit. Honeslty take a break. I LOVE warframe again now that I came back to so much content and I have stuff to do again. All of the wonder and fun I had when I picked it up just returned because I had a few years away, and I got to focus on other hobbies. Best thing I ever did. The only downside is missing the operations, but you gotta give to get.
@@extinctparadise363 Hope it all works out for you. You'll miss it sometimes, but just remember that feeling of excitement you had playing the second dream and war within and you'll be excited to come back to all that content! Getting to do the new war, Demios, Albrecht's lab, and everything else I missed since fortuna is absolutely insane. Can't imagine what it would be like to stop now and come back when 1999 is 4 updates back
Sad this game mode is gone for 3 years. You know it is gone for a long time when you forgot some procedures about a mission you used to daily. RIP LoR and JV
when law of retribution ended we all parted from the game about 7 years ago, now 3 of us have returned to the game . hopefully they add another raid one day
Honestly, warframe raids had some potential. I feel like they should have done more with LOR, like the battery mechanic was a good idea, just the whole standing on plates mechanic is a bit dated, with the hijack mission crammed in made it really lacking. Like JV was too complcated, LOR was too easy.
Honestly they should look to destiny for inspiration if they ever add them back (they won't). The ONE thing destiny does right is raids, they make everything about that trainwreck worth it
i miss raids so much, i’ve remember when i was a kid and me and my friends trained to do everything perfect on the raid, it was such a good time and raids was so fun
It'd be cool if they added raids in modern day warframe, maybe as a weekly activity, with an end reward of an endo, kuva, and vosfor cache + a couple of archon shards. I started playing wf on the tail end of the war within but never got to experience a raid myself. Just seeing them makes me wish I could have played them
Damn I always though I missed out on some really hard and fun pinnacle content since I never got to try raids but now that I've seen the gameplay it just looks like a bunch of missions mashed up into one with a little bit of running. Glad I didn't miss out on a whole lot. That said I really hope they make raids for Warframe one day. Ones with lots of mechanics that require genuine coordination and create interesting gameplay not found elsewhere. Like Destiny.
oh yeah, they were really fun but sadly Extremely flawed. they didn't have checkpoints like in Destiny's raids and if u disconnected on the 2nd or 3rd day you can't join back and end up losing everything. I did this raid and got too where we had to fight this a hole and I disconnected and the boys sadly couldn't clutch cause I was a key role
I stopped playing Warframe for awhile (Couldn’t get past the sands of inaros quest so I kind of stopped progressing story wise) I used to do the law of retribution all the time but didn’t know that it existed in the same time as the operator/transfusion ability. That’s insane to me
Yeah there can only be 8 players but since there’s starting to be a problem I don’t know about, they change it to 4 player mode and got the raid deleted, The only 8 player mode left is, The conclave or Captura
Yes, and the code is still there and used in other gamemodes as someone said. Occasionally, a bug happens where you can get a 8 player lobby. It's extremely, extremely rare but there's some footage of it. I recently had it where I was in an 8 player mission, but it was almost two instances, and I couldn't see the other 4. But we could chat in squad somehow and see names, just no warframes or shots. It's pretty neat.
Vhey Hek : TENNO !!!!!! Me after almost a decade of grind : REEEEEEEEEETRIBUTIOOOOOOOOOOOOON Vhey Hek : Tenno ? Me : REEEEEEEEEEEEETRIIIIIIIIIBUUUUUTIOOOOOOOOOOON Vhey Hek : Tenno stop ... Me : REEEEEEEEEEEETRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIBUUUUUUUUUUTION Vhey Hek : Tenno stop ... , this is not okay ... Just stop ... You're sick from the Devs copying the same crappy missions for items that do practically the same thing with a new very badly created blender object given the same particle physics ... Me : Reeeetribution ? .... Vhey Hek : Its okay tenno . Uninstall this disease .
Honestly this mode was so fun I was just rethinking the trial and error we went through to get the mode down pact.. turns out the game mode was all about CC and it was better to go with just 4 people for regular and nightmare. Can get through both modes in 30mins or less if you have a decent team
I'm coming from World of Warcraft an Rift Online an I have to say... Where are the bosses at? This looks boring. Maybe I'm just not seeing the point / big picture.
It seemed like these raids had a much bigger focus on teamwork and movement rather than combat hopefully go we get raids 2.0 they'll have a good mixture of both
At least it wasn't just replaying the same missions on hard mode. It looked like players actually had to work together instead of bringing the biggest gun or nuke
@@scarletjester7831 yeah I agree which after seeing this de outta rethink of bringing raids back especially wit how many warfranes and weapons we have nowadays
It’s dogshit content the only reason the raiders want it back is so they can do the arcane mafia again and corner the market so the prices go up. I’m glad their little raids and arcane mafia got smashed into the ground.
@@nickydeduck255 Nah you and every other raider are still salty Arcane prices crashed and you can’t rip people off anymore and corner the market in your little exclusive raiding club. I’m glad they took raids away your little Arcane mafia crashed into the ground.
till this day Vay Help has been destroying our relays but we don't punish him for it anymore.
Mostly cause the Fomorians keep getting shot down nowadays and the power cores keep getting stolen. At this point it’s just every other Wednesday that Vay Hek tries and blow up a relay.
Never got to play the raids, really started playing after their removal, so I can't speak to how fun some of the aspects of them seem to be, but I will say I do like the feeling of actively going on the offensive against the the factions these raids seemed to convey, rather than the sort of disparate strikes that the nodes and even Sorties seem to be.
EXACTLY BRO! i really want raids to come back or at least something similar, The Archon Hunts seemed like that at launch untill people discovered Incarnons and Kuva Hek Existed lol, same with Eidolon hunts untill peoole started Solo Tricapping them with todays meta lol
Watching this brings back memories. Rip to LOR and JV
With the variety of Warframes we have now, if they return this with the ability to have 6 players, it wouldn't be much a challenge. Especially with the Helminth system and the Frankensteins we all might've made
I started playing when Plains of Eidolon dropped. So I never saw the Raid. I only heard of it. I played Destiny Raids and really liked them. I just have no idea how one would work with all the OP frames. Destiny Raids worked well becuase the abilities, gear and traversal options players had access to was very specific and limited, so they could be designed around.
Warframe has so many ways to play its crazy. I mean that as a compliment.
The current way to challenge endgame players is 1. Limit loadout selection 2 Add several permanent/ temporary debuffs.
3 Increase damage attenuation/ invincible periods for enemies.
I'm kinda at a loss on how to challenge 4 players who have modded to do literally millions of dps.
It's a strange place to be as a game designer for sure.
I applaud them for taking wild creative risks, often.
Honestly went searching because I come from other MMO games like WoW and I felt like this game just was missing the raiding experience
Destiny has the best raids of any game but good LORD you do not want to play destiny. Trust me. I'm a beta player and top 1% raider, and the ONLY thing I enjoy about this fucking game is the raids.
man this brings me back, i miss this so much.
I used to be able to play this, but back then I was just a newbie, afraid of trying hard things. Now i can only watch this, and regret for what I have missed.
I was such a noob in 2017, I didn't understand anything about the game, and by the time I understood how to look for groups and get into activities the raid had been removed from the game lmao. Though, from the video, it doesn't look like I missed much. DE has said that they'd like to bring raids back, so maybe we'll see them again one day.
I do miss Raids and remember them well. Even though it won't matter, important parts are:
1) You wanted an EV Trinity and StompAoE Rhino in ever raid (vauban was an alternative pick). Rhino / Vauban would stun everything on map and EV trin keeps every energy full. This is because requires like 300 energy to charge the bomb (on nightmare standing on switch pads also drains 10 energy per second).
2) On Nightmare difficulty, the escort payload instantly dies if it get electrified on the rail.
Also raids existed before people had the Operator Ability which meant you HAD to have people open the door with you (you could do it later solo now with operator).
On second mission, the giant switch room has requirement to hack a terminal which then reveals an image and then you need to stand on the large yellow pad with the correct image and repeat this process until every single person is on a pad. At any moment a person steps off a pad that is pressed, it instantly downs all players on pads and you have to start process over. And of course on nightmare, you lose 10 energy per second on said pads.
Third mission is just fancy door stuff while doing the bomb stuff (similar to mission 1, except the door pads are very far away and you need to find them. You can always follow the wire).
Nightmare mods also introduced these nully drones that would prevent player usage of warframe abilities while inside them. I don't think they however acted like nullifiers because I 'think' you could still affect enemies with warframe abilities while inside a nully zone.
I use to do teaching raids with newbies where had myself and another experienced player with 6 newbies. It was pretty fun. But ideally, if you wanted to speedrun it you would run 4 people instead of 8. I imagine they got rid of it due to outdated things but also because of requiring 4+ players (can't do solo play) and issues when host left AND how people would generally be toxic with other players. The raid itself is quite punishing against players that don't know what they are doing as everything requires some form of coordination (even opening a door).
Also I heard the the Devs really really didn't like people glitching/cheesing the second raid Jordas Verdict (which I also taught had also had some annoying coordination in archwing form).
Why is conclave here and raid is not here
FOR REAL
Damn seriously. Lol
I think if they removed conclave today anyone barely would quit the game. I dont even think that people play this game for conclave.
But when LOR was removed there was chaos.
Wow this seems like a fun concept like a bonus mission when first successfully stop vat her or the corpus from destroying our relays but then we return the favor back to them which I hope sometime in the future the devs rethink of bringing back this mission type especially being thier actively working on cross play and all that but who knows
I remembered when I was a noob and getting carried to knowing what to do in this mission. I was learning and growing up as a warframe player. But these memories were fading away the longer the time have passed…
This is how I feel. This was one of my first warframe "accomplishments" and I remember one vivid scene of me standing on a plate in the shipyard haha. I miss those days. And like you said, it's slowly fades. I wear the Sekhara I got from it to this day.
I understand the extreme power fantasy that is Warframe makes it hard to make raids work, but honestly if they even captured like the essence of raids from Destiny it would be absolutely insane. I’m at end game Warframe and kinda feel like I have nothing else to do anymore. Finish my SP and reg circuit run, archon hunt, EDA, all syndicates are maxed, have every frame… just wishing we had a cool thing to farm. Something to keep us on our toes that isn’t “here, how many crap modifiers can we push on you, before just actually taking your weapons and frame next?” Idk, wishful thinking I guess, but Warframe has been such a wonderful experience and I’m kinda underwhelmed by the end of it.
With damage attenuation and all of warframes obscure features they have plenty to work with if they get creative. Like we had tau damage resistance but it's worthless 90% of the time. Maybe only around scarlet spear was it ok. Even narmer missions it's just there to be thematic with umbral mods and barely does anything noticeable. They also have so many gamemodes that they could use for raid mechanics that would seamlessly fit and probably make sense. And I get that feeling, I left WF for a few years because of it. And then kept making more open worlds which was same shit different day. And funny because a lot of new warframe difficulty IS "we take your weapons away", like how you mentioned EDA and SP circuit. Honeslty take a break. I LOVE warframe again now that I came back to so much content and I have stuff to do again. All of the wonder and fun I had when I picked it up just returned because I had a few years away, and I got to focus on other hobbies. Best thing I ever did. The only downside is missing the operations, but you gotta give to get.
@@klawschafer7425 very wise words, you’ve got a point. I’ve stepped back a bit, which has already helped
@@extinctparadise363 Hope it all works out for you. You'll miss it sometimes, but just remember that feeling of excitement you had playing the second dream and war within and you'll be excited to come back to all that content! Getting to do the new war, Demios, Albrecht's lab, and everything else I missed since fortuna is absolutely insane. Can't imagine what it would be like to stop now and come back when 1999 is 4 updates back
Sad this game mode is gone for 3 years. You know it is gone for a long time when you forgot some procedures about a mission you used to daily. RIP LoR and JV
I literally started playing the game when this got deletus, sad times
same.......shame......tho.....
tbh Vor would've been a better first raid boss in the unexplored part of void
why did they have to remove raids this looks so much fun
Because whenever a new patch would come, raids would gain more bugs.
I miss these
Same. Never got to do Jordas golem the full way, only partial. And I loved LOR
just imgine if they bring back LOR
Wait did warframe have raids was this a time event
It used to have a raid but then got removed
@@dankpands9714 how fun were the raids
@@swirlytroublezx0867they were pretty fun
@@swirlytroublezx0867 very fun, back then clans and alliances had genuine uses
when law of retribution ended we all parted from the game about 7 years ago, now 3 of us have returned to the game . hopefully they add another raid one day
Honestly, warframe raids had some potential. I feel like they should have done more with LOR, like the battery mechanic was a good idea, just the whole standing on plates mechanic is a bit dated, with the hijack mission crammed in made it really lacking. Like JV was too complcated, LOR was too easy.
Honestly they should look to destiny for inspiration if they ever add them back (they won't). The ONE thing destiny does right is raids, they make everything about that trainwreck worth it
The last time anyone played Trinity…
Someone doesn’t do eidolons
@@justicegutierrez6847 Trinity is great now with the augment… But for Eidolons Wisp is the better lure handler…
Bruh last time anyone's used nyx IE ME 😤 I'd stand on the button while using nyx's abilities to cc and absorb damage while being attacked
i miss raids so much, i’ve remember when i was a kid and me and my friends trained to do everything perfect on the raid, it was such a good time and raids was so fun
I honestly think this was the reason trinity was used
Trinity was pretty good dps before self damage romoved
It'd be cool if they added raids in modern day warframe, maybe as a weekly activity, with an end reward of an endo, kuva, and vosfor cache + a couple of archon shards. I started playing wf on the tail end of the war within but never got to experience a raid myself. Just seeing them makes me wish I could have played them
Damn I always though I missed out on some really hard and fun pinnacle content since I never got to try raids but now that I've seen the gameplay it just looks like a bunch of missions mashed up into one with a little bit of running. Glad I didn't miss out on a whole lot. That said I really hope they make raids for Warframe one day. Ones with lots of mechanics that require genuine coordination and create interesting gameplay not found elsewhere. Like Destiny.
The social aspect of raids with everyone standing around was the best part tbh. And back then, WF didn't have many mechanics to add into raids so...
I rock the Invati Sekhara on my left shoulder for all my fashion frames just to let the fellow OG's know whats up
WARFRAME HAD RAIDS WTF
oh yeah, they were really fun but sadly Extremely flawed. they didn't have checkpoints like in Destiny's raids and if u disconnected on the 2nd or 3rd day you can't join back and end up losing everything. I did this raid and got too where we had to fight this a hole and I disconnected and the boys sadly couldn't clutch cause I was a key role
Yes warframe did had raids, and sadly they were removed. Hoping to see them revised in the future.
It was dogshit content and basically let a small amount of people control arcanes, now they are upset so they can’t do the arcane mafia.
@@cartoonvideos5 lmaoooo someone wasn't good enough to get invited
@@klizzarddddddddddddd Another arcane seller whining, stay losing
I stopped playing Warframe for awhile (Couldn’t get past the sands of inaros quest so I kind of stopped progressing story wise) I used to do the law of retribution all the time but didn’t know that it existed in the same time as the operator/transfusion ability. That’s insane to me
Sekhara Gang, who else is repping them rn?
Was this before or after POE Update?
Before
Wait, Raids is coming back
suree
Oh boi i miss this
wait wait wait there was a time when you can have more than 4 players on a team?
Yeah there can only be 8 players but since there’s starting to be a problem I don’t know about, they change it to 4 player mode and got the raid deleted, The only 8 player mode left is, The conclave or Captura
Yes, and the code is still there and used in other gamemodes as someone said. Occasionally, a bug happens where you can get a 8 player lobby. It's extremely, extremely rare but there's some footage of it. I recently had it where I was in an 8 player mission, but it was almost two instances, and I couldn't see the other 4. But we could chat in squad somehow and see names, just no warframes or shots. It's pretty neat.
why...greneers...here...dont..have..armor..???
Corrosive projection before it got nerfed
Corrosive projection and coaction drift
Vhey Hek : TENNO !!!!!!
Me after almost a decade of grind : REEEEEEEEEETRIBUTIOOOOOOOOOOOOON
Vhey Hek : Tenno ?
Me : REEEEEEEEEEEEETRIIIIIIIIIBUUUUUTIOOOOOOOOOOON
Vhey Hek : Tenno stop ...
Me : REEEEEEEEEEEETRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIBUUUUUUUUUUTION
Vhey Hek : Tenno stop ... , this is not okay ... Just stop ... You're sick from the Devs copying the same crappy missions for items that do practically the same thing with a new very badly created blender object given the same particle physics ...
Me : Reeeetribution ? ....
Vhey Hek : Its okay tenno . Uninstall this disease .
What a degenerate
Honestly this mode was so fun I was just rethinking the trial and error we went through to get the mode down pact.. turns out the game mode was all about CC and it was better to go with just 4 people for regular and nightmare. Can get through both modes in 30mins or less if you have a decent team
I'm coming from World of Warcraft an Rift Online an I have to say... Where are the bosses at? This looks boring. Maybe I'm just not seeing the point / big picture.
It seemed like these raids had a much bigger focus on teamwork and movement rather than combat hopefully go we get raids 2.0 they'll have a good mixture of both
Raids 2.0???
We might for the new war
@@gabrielgaming1102 nah
@@gabrielgaming1102 no, but a recent official DE survey did question about raids
This was so much fun 😂
Tegershold
Yeah, gotta agree with The Funk and say, this looks like trash 😂😂😂
And people want THIS to come back? It looks even more boring than steel path.
At least it wasn't just replaying the same missions on hard mode. It looked like players actually had to work together instead of bringing the biggest gun or nuke
@@scarletjester7831 yeah I agree which after seeing this de outta rethink of bringing raids back especially wit how many warfranes and weapons we have nowadays
It’s dogshit content the only reason the raiders want it back is so they can do the arcane mafia again and corner the market so the prices go up. I’m glad their little raids and arcane mafia got smashed into the ground.
Cope and shit yourself
@The Funk you have been all over this comment section hating this old content, got nothing better to do?
This is garbage raid compared to Destiny like King's Fall. Even the reward is garbage
LoL
@@vized-skyshock1510 yeah ikr
Yeah that is the reason why I don't want raids back unless they are actually good
@@AdiHashira DE can make puzzles, look at the sedna boss or the lua halls.
@@vized-skyshock1510 Yeah they can make good puzzles, but raid? Na not a chance against King's Fall.
Good riddance, this and Jordas Verdict were terrible and boring.
bad take
@@nickydeduck255 Cope I can get Arcanes in public now
@@cartoonvideos5 it's so fun with friend you wouldn't know that right since you only play pub
@@nickydeduck255 Nah you and every other raider are still salty Arcane prices crashed and you can’t rip people off anymore and corner the market in your little exclusive raiding club. I’m glad they took raids away your little Arcane mafia crashed into the ground.
@@cartoonvideos5 I'm one of the raiders and I don't feel salty at all , raids were fun and DE made a promise to bring them back .