I have used both genuine and fake Keihin carbs on many scooters... they both work just fine. As a matter of fact I repair 20-40 snowblowers per year for folks and almost always use the clone carbs on them. My local power equipment shop offers owners a choice of genuine or clone in repairs that can use the clones. The new snowblowers have plastic carbs and the Chinese haven't caught up with those yet.
Of course they treated you great, you caught them and then notified eBay. The policy of eBay is zero tolerance for selling fakes and is a lifetime ban. Would take seller quite abit of time to gain positive feedback under new account, so he made things correct by sending you an authentic. Glad it worked out and you spoke up! Great channel and content! 👍🏻
I bought one of those generically made new carburetors for a 12.5HP Briggs for $16.99 instead of $150.00 for an original Briggs Walbro carb, generic one had no marking on it at all, looked identical, and works just as good.
There ya go! Lots of people repair things with knock off "generic" parts as you say that otherwise might not even repair such because either it is not worth the expense or that is all they can come up with ....not only that but a lot of old stuff the manufacturers wont even support anymore! They expect everyone to throw the whole machine away and go to a dealership and buy a brand new one! Thank God companies spring up to take up the slack! AND push back on the pricing! What no one should DO however is emboss another companies BRAND NAME on a part and sell it AS though it is OEM! That is just criminal! No good reason for it either! Not like people wont STILL buy the knock off even without the silly name on it! For pennies on the dollar? LOTS will! DUHH! Actually Ebay has stopped a lot of that kind of thing ....Pretty sure Sudco would not flagrantly risk their account on ebay ...I tend to believe it was an accident ...but who knows
The serial number is for smog identification for a specific model and year..... No serial number is a generic replacement for multiple years and models......... Neither ones is fake.....
So if neither are fake then why did the seller buckle and send out another *real* carb? He down 1 real carb if thats the case or more like he got caught selling fakes and is now down 1 REAL carb but only after selling loads of fakes as REAL.
Smoke DeGrasse Tyson Your full of it. Ebay is a mostly computerized complaint based system. You need to pipe your mouth unless you have first hand knowledge
There are fakes of quite a few carbs as well as nine serialised carbs so it's not as cut and dried as you'd think. The box issue is a problem as is the blank slide and internal differences.
I worked for Keihen in the past. They won’t sell carbs (or anything for that matter) that don’t pass inspection. They are a Japanese company with strict standards. What you got is a knockoff counterfeit as you correctly surmised. Despite how well the seller treated you, they are illegally selling parts that are made without license and cheats not only Keihen but also workers out of jobs. Keihen actually has a lot of manufacturing in the US. Love your videos!
Youre right on with your comments. It is stealing from Keihin. They spent millions developing that carb on the expectation that when it went to market they could recoup their capital and profit.
"wrong, nothing illegal about it, they do not need a license. keihen only owns the name in countries they pay to own the name in" It's being sold in the US, and Keihin is a registered trademark in the US, so yes. It's illegal.
The patents are expired on most of these parts, so there is no infringement. Truth is, if you want original, buy from OEM supplier, going on ebay to get something for lowest possible price is simply asking for reproduction parts. That's right its call "reproduction", just like you can still buy new fenders for 1960 chevy, they are reproduction, not counterfeit. It's only counterfeit if it's made without permission from current patent holders. Once patents expire, anyone can make the part. A U.S. utility patent, is generally granted for 20 years from the date the patent application is filed; however, periodic fees are required to maintain the enforceability of the patent. A design patent is generally granted protection for 14 years measured from the date the design patent is granted. In Japan, a patent is granted for 15 or 20 years / though without re license payment it expires automatically at 10 years, which corresponds to the length of time the manufacturer is required to provide/supply replacement parts, much like in USA. So quit your fake whining, you set out to buy cheap, and you got it. And nothing you have done shows that the original is better than the reproduction, and quite often reproduction is better.
@@paulsoul9585 You are so un informed. China files more patents per year than any other country, and it's projected to increase to the point where they file more than the next 5. You can be anti China all you want, but it doesnt make your thoughts true.
If they cared about their reputation, they wouldn't be selling fake Keihin carbs!!!! They care about money and not getting caught, report them to Keihin, before some other poor dude gets stuck with a fake trying to find out why his bike runs like crap!
Every single video makes me laugh, the interaction between husband and wife, his reactions to particular predicaments or just the random banter. Either way the formulas working great, oh the small engine repair is cool too lmao..
As a person who has sold on Ebay, when you contact Ebay with photos and a claim of fakes, they got on the seller pretty hard. But dealing with Ebay as a seller is the fast "race to the bottom" so it might be possible that the seller does deal in real an counterfeit parts as a way to down sell this part. But if customers keep on complaining Ebay will at first prohibit them for selling that particular item and then after that shut them down.
Selling a fake of a brand should get you shut down anyways. The Carburetor manufacture should be notified and maybe they will shut them down. I know I would report them to the manufacture they have the $$$$ to say STOP and or sue
David Evans there is no excuse... product should have been described as, and sold as a "clone"... if that specific word is not in the description, then the buyer has every right to be pissed
Yep, no fakes on eBay period. Could easily have been an honest mistake. The item, before dispatch, should have been checked as being the genuine part. The sellers feedback would alert you to his reputation on whether they was consistently honest or not. I agree with , in in video, that some of the Items on eBay are poorly manufactured. Waste of money.
Hakim Mohamad its technically not counterfeiting it is called cloning. They change one minoot detail, or a material that the product was made with and they are not liable for any copywriting. It's complete bullshit I know, but eBay allows people to sell items like that without giving a flying fuck, that's why I avoid it
Still a scam to bait and subtle switch you. Sounds like they obviously hoped you wouldn't notice the fake and there's enough profit in passing the fakes until someone notices. If there wasn't so much time into this it might be interesting to see how the fake works compared to the real.
A man of principle is always good to see. Thank you for your upload , it was entertaining and contained worthy advice.Rebuilding shagged bikes is an addictive hobby...I'm hooked ! cheers and all the best.
Siana Gearz, same man....when I saw the title of the video I temporarily forgot I disassembled my new carburetor and reassembled it with a stronger spring.... so I thought fuckkk I hope that card I bought works!
Siana Gearz my thoughts exactly. fake meaning a carb body that wasn't ported for jets or a slide ect.. dude is obviously a spoiled brat.. that carb was 99% as oppose to the original. big deal the casting is brighter. woopy doo da
If you buy something for half price on eBay of course its gonna be a chinese copy. But they work fine. Honestly i would never buy a brand name carb anymore because the chinese ones work just as well. Ive used many of them, for 1/3 the price thats unbeatable. Carbs in operation are pretty damn simple. Unless something was assembled wrong it'll work just as well.
I too needed a replacement carb for the 250 Virago i picked up for my wife. The OEM unit was $600.00....there was a seller who had "knock-off" carbs for $50.00, with a return warranty if not satisfied. The "cheep" carb showed up, and looked as good ad the OEM unit I pulled off, and to my surprise, even had an idle fuel trim screw , something the original did not have (plugged at the factory. ) after install, it started and responded as good as expected, no leaks, nice throttle response, and good performance. No complaints here about Knock-off carbs !!
i been buying on ebay since 2005, and my wife is still amazed at the process i go through when looking for an item. it's not just price, i have told and shown her - seller feedback and types of feedback are more important than price; if seller A is selling item cheaper than most or all of the other sellers but almost all the negative or neutral feedback that is recent is for the item i am interested in from seller A that is a problem. sometimes the extra dollar or ten combined with a little comparative shopping will save you weeks of headache for an item that is not worth the box it came in. sellers that are responsive AND honest are not as plentiful as they used to be on ebay, sadly.
Damn man, I'm totally with you on this one! I'm like you on these type of things and am a man of my word and also value people with principles and totally hate people without them. People that have no regards and decency to sell exactly what they advertise, might as well jump off the highest building they can find, they won't be missed among us. Like you said, might have been an honest mistake, or just a failed attempt from them to try to scam someone that really would not be able to tell original from fake. Who knows right!? Anyway, enjoyed the video a lot as usual and keep them coming. :)
And this is why I don't buy anything from ebay any more. I got sick of being sent fake goods or finding out the used item was in worse condition than advertised or even worse just never turned up. I know there are some honest sellers on there but not enough of them. Now go and treat your wife to a nice meal but not one from ebay!!!!!
I gave up on ebay for the same reasons. Got a few bargains but that one purchase for 100 bucks that is worth 0 when you get it eats up all you saved on previous bargains.
I have delt with several companies that deal with both OEM and aftermarket carbs/ carb parts. I have purchased several aftermarket replicas and have had good experience with them. So if they let you keep it, test it.
Looks like he tried to pull a fast one on you, but when you called him on it he sent you the right one. If you didn't call him on it he would have just let you keep it. I hope not! It sounds like a good old fashioned bait and switch to me.
mrlithium69 Same. I know it sounds naive, but a good bit of the time the seller really isn't trying to get over on people, which makes it easy for it to happen. You'd be surprised by how many people sell stuff that they simply saw they could get for cheaper than the price they see it selling for and have no actual knowledge of the product other than the specs and images the Chinese exporter gives them, so when they order say 1000 maybe they get real ones the first time, maybe not even, but they look like the picture they're shown on the exporters website or digital catalog so they assume they're "as described" and post them up. If the seller shipped a real first batch, the next batch they either grab from someone else, or the Chinese vendor they've been using just peppers in a few fake pieces or a fake batch here and there to increase margins, which are then mixed in with existing real(or always fake) stock, and they're still none the wiser because they know nothing about a specific brand of transistor, carburator, USB charger, cellphone battery, etc. and usually have too many products to care to research the ins and outs of them all, so they sell them and usually are the ones that get screwed in the end because you will always be able to get your money back as a buyer on eBay if you're sold something fake. Chances are they can't get their money back from the shady Shenzhen vendor that sold them the shit though so they're hit with negative feedback, a strike or possible suspension, and a huge lot of fake shit they bought for genuine prices and can't off load to anyone. This is why when I sold online I sold only things I knew, or designed and manufactured myself and never tried to have hundreds of listings at once that way I could vet all of the products I sold and keep my outgoing packages at a low enough volume to personally check every items condition before packing it.
Chris Carr Very good point. You never really know what overseas vendors are going to send you. I have seen a lot of shady stuff like this. I guess it's just the price you have to pay when doing business with overseas companies. Sad but true.
SgtPiggie ive bought a cheap knock off go pro and it was supposed to do 4k was only vga which is junk... but i did buy a akaso go pro knoxk off for 35$ its actually really great camera i use it in my videos all the time
I bought the same thing but on amazon, I didn’t realize it was a fake so I put it on and even ordered a JD Jett kit and it ran just fine but about a month later it wouldn’t stop leaking gas so me and a friend tore it apart and he showed me that it was a fake now I have to do this all over again, I started to check into this and man there is everything fake out there all kinds of parts so I just go straight to the manufacture or a well known shop and get what I need
Me too! But didn't want to install anything until the dust settled with the transaction and I knew whether or not I had to send the first carb back. So I had to make a choice after I got the new carb: Install the carb and fire it up, or edit the video. Hearing it run would've been more fun, but I wanted to get this published. Thanks for the comment.
I received a Mikuni carburetor from the Aliexpress website, so from China, and in the box there are stickers from... SUDCO (I'm in France). The choke control failed after 10 times. I managed to start with difficulty once, with an unstable idle. Since then, I put my old carburetor back, and it started on the first kick. SUDCO seems serious, and I suppose they have two markets... good, and not so good.
The two dead carbs? One thing that seems to kill older carbs like this in hard todiagnose ways is that there are lots of little O-ring seals in there around the base of the jets etc that don't tend to come in carb rebuild kits. Eventually they perish & let air and/or fuel through. Strip one of those carbs down to component level & you'll surely find some little rubber seal deep inside that have gone bad that you can source replacements for... there's not really a lot that can go wrong with the metal bits of a carb...
A couple of videos ago I suspected that, and replaced a gasket/oring for the jet block hoping that would fix it. No change though. But who knows, there could be something else in there.
Man of principle...so few left and current day commercial practices are killing them off fast! Well done, more power to your elbow, I'm with you all the way.
Actually, thank you so much for showing us this. I don't know if this is quite naive of me, but I would have never guessed buying something like a damn carb wold be something I'd need to watch out for. Thanks dawgy dawg
If you want to verify that someone has a physical presense, use Google Maps with their address. I did this recently and found the address wasn't a warehouse of store, but a residence in an area not commercially zoned. When buying through EBay, put all complaints through their Resolution Center. Especially with Paypal, EBay has a zero tollerance sellers policy. They will freeze payments to the seller and ban them for any kind of fraud if they do not send you what is advertised.
Sorry man, but a "replica" that has "Keihin" stamped on it and is not a Keihin is ilegal anyways. The seller shouldn`t be selling that. A replica has to have a different brand if is no made by them.
Since the KDX 200 is older than dirt (last made in 2006), it actually is possible that replica was near or better than the OEM part. If I had a KDX 200, I would go one better and install the Lectron carburetor which works better than the OEM part and automatically adjusts for altitude.
Some people have suggested the fake might be perfectly good. That's true (and I have purchased copy parts myself) but its not the point. If you pay extra for a genuine part that's you should get. If anyone disagrees... I have a genuine Ferrari they can buy off me.
Horsepower Garage Holes, hoses, o-rings and needle valves. They're not rocket science right? It's just a beat up ol motorcycle anyways. His wife should smack him on these videos once in awhile. It's not like an old Harley or an old Indian bike. She could poke him with a knitting needle.
There is couple of options of how they got the castings so identical. 1. They got a real carb and 3D-scanned it. 2. Some die casting company just used the 3D-files illegally they got from Keihin as part of a RFQ or something similar. Boom, exact replica. 3. Like 2., but the files were gotten through corporate espionage. It happens and it sucks.
I just bought a used original carb and used the extra parts to make 1 good one. I did use Chinese jets because they were $10 for a pack of 30 mains & pilots. The actual origin jets are almost $80 for 4 jets. They work fine.
Your channel is awesome! You have great presence, personality, and skill!! I look forward to all of your other "cheap builds"!! Keep them coming!! and get a sponsor!
Two years later I found this video and went straight to the SUDCO website. They even have a tab about Keihin and Mikuni Carbs showing genuine vs fake...something is missing here. Love you channel btw!
I might have been unclear in the video, I didn't buy from sudco. It was an ebay seller. But when the carb arrived it was in a sudco box. I have read that in addition to the carbs, sometimes people will even make knockoff boxes.
Love the china carbs for lawn mowers, I order 10 for $12 each and when they don't get here on time, I contact the seller They send out another package, and within a month I have 20 carbs for $6 each lol I then install them or sell them for $35, as the local parts store charges upwards of $55 so my prices are competitive, but I also make great profits! For anything performance related, go with name brand products and stay away from eBay or Amazon as it's either Aftermarket, or used!
I'm guessing you either have never bought anything made in China, or you've never bought anything made in America. So just to let you know, things made in China are nearly always junk! Sunglasses, shower nozzles, carburetors, whatever. Junk!
@@scarharting5577 Dont wanna break your heart but most shit is made from China. Even when it sometimes says made in Italy or something like that they mean its just assembeld in that country. While the equipment is actually from China.
What's wrong with it being fake? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I know nothing about automotive stuff. If it works what would be worse than the genuine one?
What i dont understand with confractors is..when you bother to make something as hard to do as a carburator , why dont you make it really well,i mean; you have surely all the machines,(aluminium injection machines and all) so why dont you ask an engineer and build something good...? Why?
jeff wackenthal profits. hard to make quality stuff from shit raw materials and with workers paid starvation level salaries. All to bring down price from $150 to $19.
It's not a fake carburetor, it's a real carburetor that is a knockoff of the original brand. Also, complaining that your time is too valuable while at the same time making a video using up that valuable time isn't quite right, just saying.
The videos he makes will be monetized so he gets money just by people watching his videos, this is why so many people are making videos on youtube to get extra income from.
I watched this, and found that he has very little information that is actually useful on this video about his purchase... I was hoping for information on performance and reliability differences... He came up with NOTHING in those areas... His ranting gives the viewer the following tips: 1)The location of serial #'s 2)The main jet markings 3) His need to finish the video so he can go out to dinner... What use is that? Zero value from a person who actually knows very little of what he claims to know about... Where can HE be returned, for not being genuine?
It might work fine, I hope he breaks it down more part by part and also test the bike with both once he has the bike running right. Maybe the fake is fine...I would buy OEM myself unless someone I knew swore a knockoff they used works just the same.
I think most people that doesn't got the point just dont want to get the point. So I guess U like to pay full price for a counterfaith Rolex even knowing a counterfait or replica Rolex is illegal.
Blinding flash of the obvious: eBay sellers can’t be trusted...you play Russian roulette every time you buy there. Good on you that you filed a complaint. I bought a 1964 vintage Fireball Meteor camper from a “professional” vintage camper seller for $6,500.00 (Todd Anderson of Salt Lake City). Advertised as in great shape, always maintained, and ready to take camping. NOT! Shocked? Don’t be. It arrived (I paid $850.00 to have it delivered to Missouri) with its door tied closed; belly material rotted out; both wheel wells were destroyed from a wreck; brakes installed upside down (so no brakes unless driving in reverse gear); roof completely rotted out ($10,000.0 for a new roof); propane lines with multiple breaks “repaired” with rubber hoses joining the broken ends and so full of mud dauber nest it had to be roto-rooted out and parts replaced; and the list goes on! Not only did eBay ban Todd, but I pushed the Salt Lake City police to investigate him. Possible/probable chop shop owner. Bottom line: eBay sellers can’t be trusted, “caveat emptor” (let the buyer beware) still in effect, and if you get what you paid for you should consider buying power ball tickets because you are one lucky sonuvagun! We shoppers must pursue these liars and fraudsters! Get them banned and arrested if possible. ( I added the last part because I bought two Apple laptops for my kids. Good prices. Turned out they were stolen by the seller from a medical research company in California. They had classified medical research on the hard drives. By the time it was over, she and her two accomplices were in prison. Karma sometimes works out.). Glad you got this straightened out. You paid whatever fair price the seller wanted; none of your dollars were bad; so you deserved a fair piece of equipment. Love your show. You have a wonderful wife like mine: long-suffering and all too cheerful. We are blessed, young man! Tchuss!
Legit laughed out loud @ "we all have impossible dreams," response to wife wanting a nice dinner haha, such beautiful comedic timing you two have... incredible chemistry. Keep making vids, thanks! After the generator Dx/Tx and this >>> subbed
I bought a pair of coils from a supplier in Wales , from ebay. when i received the coils , they were half the size of the originals and less than half the resistance when tested. It was going to cost just as much to return the coils compared to the original purchase price. I left a scathing negative feedback comment on his ebay page. the then phoned me to complain about the comment . I told him he was a rip off merchant and he knew fine well these parts would damage the cdi unit as the resistance was wrong . Leave negative comments as a warning to other potential buyers , and always check the sellers feedback
To everyone saying if it works it's no big deal, IT IS he requested a genuine original part! if he wanted cheep the ya it works it works. He paid for real stuff he deserves to get the real stuff! Same reason a kit car isn't worth what the real car is worth it's not the same, it's not real! Love the vids, keep up the good work
Im glad they sent you a genuine pwk! I bought a old original 35 pwk off a kdx for my Blaster and I couldnt tune it at all every pilot jet and main was rich as hell, I changed the jet block oring and it runs amazing now, I had it jetted to perfection in a couple days, thanks for the videos bud!
Fyi, they sell Chinese replacement carbs for lawnmowers that are fantastic! New carb, plug, filters, fuel line, gaskets, primer bulbs, all for about 15 bucks. And the best part is that the 3 i bought work great!
@Jennies Garage, just wanted to add; having an website is just another level of scam. They're getting smarter too ;) Cant for my life remember now, but just watched something similar happened to a guy ordering something to his quad, and they had a "legit" website, but after he done a website review search he found out like 18/20 negative ratings for it "buyer beware". btw.. Really dont like what YT have become, unlike others (you:D).. but what I just wanted to say is that I really miss you guys. Can't wait for even like an Shasta update or whatever.. 🤔😇👄
btw, Sudco is an actual company in California with an actual building for an office, not some sketchy distributor on Alibaba. Sudco does make usable replica carbs. However, there are fake sudco carbs and you’re holding one. Sudco has a page on how to spot a fake btw.
that serial number your looking for refers to OEM, does not mean the unit you got is fake....i bought a new 39mm for my CR500 direct from Australian distributor and it had no numbers on the fuel bowl.
I dont understand all the comments saying "if it works, what's the difference?" If it was you, and you wanted real parts on YOUR motor, wouldnt you be upset? I would. If its repro, or something OTHER than original, why did they put it in the original box? Stock the "fake", sell the "fake" but dont rep it as "original".
been buying chinese copy carbs from ebay for the last ten years.every one i bought worked as good or better that the original. i have used them on atv's,lawnmowers,string trimmers,blowers, chainsaws. most of the time the idle air screw adjustment has been marked from the factory and is does not need adjustment. most range in price from10.00 to 20.00 shippped. some come from the west coast and some come from overseas.before you go thinking you were ripped off install them and see if they work. buying one these carbs is like buying a air filter or or spark plug. if the carb starts acting up then unbolt it throw it in trash can and put your spare one on.ethanol is what ruins a carb and you can thank the EPA for that.
jdattaway he expected what he paid for. When u can buy an genuine for 100$+ but receive an aftermarket you could have bought originally for a 1/3rd of the price... can you see where hes coming from?
I'm a ebayer, buy and sell too. I have dealt with some cocka roaches too. Benz E320 fog lamp lens was my latest. Seller thought I was going to pay return shipping on WRONG part. WRONG ANSWER!!. BUYERS do have protection against these fools that seem to think they can do as they please. I've been selling since 2000 & have 100% satisfaction on feedback!!!!! One must know his sheitte or you can get ripped from lack of knowledge. HAPPY EBaying!!!!
I see several comments saying, try the counterfeit to see how it works, but first you should ask the vendor what he sells the counterfeit ones for. Then make judgement on whether they're a legit vendor or whether they just have a few legit items set aside for the couple of people who complain. Maybe it can be had for $50 and then, yes, you can review it's performance too.
I got duped also on Ebay.....it was a lawnmower part, but advertising showed a real OEM part picture....what I got was a $5 knockoff...........your correct in wasting your time only to recieve substandard parts, and they know its a waste of time and money sending the crap part back
If it works and you Can get some of your money back then I don’t see an issue. That’s what I would do personally is just say listen it’s clearly not real so I am willing to pay only the amount that one like this would go for
But they let him keep the fake, it shows you the markup they just wanted to be done with it. I had that with knock of radiators they were like keep them we will 2-day ship you new ones...LOL But I took UA-cam video of the issue and said "this is unlisted for now"...LOL Bad press is obvious with the press of a button to let the video out to UA-cam.
michael, where did you see anyone say anything about it being made in the US? you are so dumb, is that why your comment is gone? "Michel Linschoten Where do you think the real ones get made? Keep dreaming that the castings are usa made you people are so dumb"
Hey I have something to ask my carb has a pipe going from the side of it to a little clicking thing and it’s something to do with air and it has a small air filter and when it clicks it pumps air out of it do u know what this is thx
You probably don't care but i was given a 125ttr that sat in a back yard for about 5 years and it just need a chain and a carb and i went on ebay and spent $50 on both and had it up an running in less then a week. I'm not saying it's right for company's to give you a left hook and act like they are selling you the real thing but sometimes it's not all that bad buying the cheap chinese knock off. please note i did later replace the chain because i didn't feel safe with a $20 chain. But the carb is still on that bike today and it's been five years and it still works fine
The seller intended to defraud period! Ebay does not allow counterfeits thats why the seller responded quickly or would get delisted. If the seller was honest, the part (however sold) should of been labled as a clone on the box so the alleged mistake wouldnt have occurred and the customer knows what they have.
Yeah but if it's counterfeit does it still work or is there nothing inside the carburetor I don't care about serial numbers would the carburetor work if you bolted on your motorcycle
Then there's this. I ordered an item from China. It was shipped to Delaware ... however, I live in Texas. I contacted the company. They responded immediately in broken English that they were sorry and had already reversed the charges to my credit card. This was an Amzn transaction, not EBay.
I would have rebuilt one of your old ones, and that bike would run great! these carbs are about as simple as they get. the KDX 200 is a GREAT BIKE! Just because you buy a new "correct" carb, doesn't mean that the jetting will be right, or ANY of the mixtures. You may still need to do all the tuning steps, that a rebuilt original would need. good luck with that nice machine! I had an 89 kdx 200 (air cooled) that I traded in on a 96 KX 250, and immediately regretted trading it in. Don't get me wrong the KX was an amazing bike, but way too "pipey" for trail riding, and wished I had kept the kdx. the guy who bought it from the dealer still has it, and says that over the years it's had 3 new pistons, and it still runs as good as when he bought it!
My son and I appreciate your vids....you get 5 stars. We came up with an idea for you!!!!! For $30 dollars from an Amazon source you can purchase an O2 sensor and electronics to monitor exhaust gas. With this you can accurately tune a carburetor and monitor while you are riding. This type of system is used on engine dyno's. Super super accurate!!!! Should detect any air leaks including main bearing seals. Bosch makes a commonly used sensor for maybe $100 bucks but son says his Amazon source should work also and additional electronics are included. We are not sure how the 2 stroke exhaust slime might effect this type of sensor but I have seen systems with air pumps that move exhaust gas to a remotely mounted sensor. Good luck and again you work is appreciated!!!! Jeff
When using eBay always pay with PayPal. If you get a FRAUDULENT item go to "my ebay", find the item you bought in your orders. Select "more" and "i didn't receive it". Type in the communication box you did not receive the item described. If the seller fails to correct the problem eBay will step in and pull your payment from the sellers account and give your money back to you. If the seller responds adequately then eBay stays silent.
I put a cheep eBay non original carb on my honda xr400 after a few years it seems to be working fine (I knew it was a non original replica when i bought it, i just wanted the cheep price tag). Is there a reason not to go with the cheaper eBay ones?
i vote that you put the fake carb on there first and see how it runs
We'll see what it can do.
Agreed..... test and record performance results from both the Keihin clone carb and the genuine Keihin.
Im curious too how the fake will perform compared to the real deal.
Yeh I wonder if the fake can be as good or better than the real carb. Do tests and please upload
I have used both genuine and fake Keihin carbs on many scooters... they both work just fine. As a matter of fact I repair 20-40 snowblowers per year for folks and almost always use the clone carbs on them. My local power equipment shop offers owners a choice of genuine or clone in repairs that can use the clones. The new snowblowers have plastic carbs and the Chinese haven't caught up with those yet.
Her: "All i want is to go out to a nice dinner". Him: "We all have our impossible dreams". This was so funny what a legend.
Hilarious😂
Let’s get this straight, the “fake carburetors” are still real carburetors.
"I want us to go on a nice dinner"
"We all have our impossible dreams"
Me too
What a tosser
Can NOT go on nice dinner because the MAN of the house spends ALL the money on junky old motorcycles! T or F?
@@-ahvilable-6654 I thought there was hair on my phone screen when I saw your profile picture 😁 Nice one
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Of course they treated you great, you caught them and then notified eBay. The policy of eBay is zero tolerance for selling fakes and is a lifetime ban. Would take seller quite abit of time to gain positive feedback under new account, so he made things correct by sending you an authentic. Glad it worked out and you spoke up! Great channel and content! 👍🏻
I bought one of those generically made new carburetors for a 12.5HP Briggs for $16.99 instead of $150.00 for an original Briggs Walbro carb, generic one had no marking on it at all, looked identical, and works just as good.
There ya go! Lots of people repair things with knock off "generic" parts as you say that otherwise might not even repair such because either it is not worth the expense or that is all they can come up with ....not only that but a lot of old stuff the manufacturers wont even support anymore! They expect everyone to throw the whole machine away and go to a dealership and buy a brand new one! Thank God companies spring up to take up the slack! AND push back on the pricing! What no one should DO however is emboss another companies BRAND NAME on a part and sell it AS though it is OEM! That is just criminal! No good reason for it either! Not like people wont STILL buy the knock off even without the silly name on it! For pennies on the dollar? LOTS will! DUHH! Actually Ebay has stopped a lot of that kind of thing ....Pretty sure Sudco would not flagrantly risk their account on ebay ...I tend to believe it was an accident ...but who knows
You should contact Sudco about that seller, the Sudco sticker on the knockoff is a big problem for business.
I called them and they said it's rampant. Not only do they copy the carbs, but even the boxes and stickers!
The serial number is for smog identification for a specific model and year..... No serial number is a generic replacement for multiple years and models......... Neither ones is fake.....
Boom .... Somebody gets it ....
So if neither are fake then why did the seller buckle and send out another *real* carb? He down 1 real carb if thats the case or more like he got caught selling fakes and is now down 1 REAL carb but only after selling loads of fakes as REAL.
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Smoke DeGrasse Tyson Your full of it. Ebay is a mostly computerized complaint based system. You need to pipe your mouth unless you have first hand knowledge
There are fakes of quite a few carbs as well as nine serialised carbs so it's not as cut and dried as you'd think. The box issue is a problem as is the blank slide and internal differences.
I worked for Keihen in the past. They won’t sell carbs (or anything for that matter) that don’t pass inspection. They are a Japanese company with strict standards. What you got is a knockoff counterfeit as you correctly surmised. Despite how well the seller treated you, they are illegally selling parts that are made without license and cheats not only Keihen but also workers out of jobs. Keihen actually has a lot of manufacturing in the US. Love your videos!
Youre right on with your comments. It is stealing from Keihin. They spent millions developing that carb on the expectation that when it went to market they could recoup their capital and profit.
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"wrong, nothing illegal about it, they do not need a license. keihen only owns the name in countries they pay to own the name in"
It's being sold in the US, and Keihin is a registered trademark in the US, so yes. It's illegal.
The patents are expired on most of these parts, so there is no infringement.
Truth is, if you want original, buy from OEM supplier, going on ebay to get something for lowest possible price is simply asking for reproduction parts. That's right its call "reproduction", just like you can still buy new fenders for 1960 chevy, they are reproduction, not counterfeit.
It's only counterfeit if it's made without permission from current patent holders. Once patents expire, anyone can make the part.
A U.S. utility patent, is generally granted for 20 years from the date the patent application is filed; however, periodic fees are required to maintain the enforceability of the patent. A design patent is generally granted protection for 14 years measured from the date the design patent is granted.
In Japan, a patent is granted for 15 or 20 years / though without re license payment it expires automatically at 10 years, which corresponds to the length of time the manufacturer is required to provide/supply replacement parts, much like in USA.
So quit your fake whining, you set out to buy cheap, and you got it. And nothing you have done shows that the original is better than the reproduction, and quite often reproduction is better.
Have you ever heard of this country called China. They fully disregard patents. FYI.
@@paulsoul9585 You are so un informed. China files more patents per year than any other country, and it's projected to increase to the point where they file more than the next 5.
You can be anti China all you want, but it doesnt make your thoughts true.
If they cared about their reputation, they wouldn't be selling fake Keihin carbs!!!! They care about money and not getting caught, report them to Keihin, before some other poor dude gets stuck with a fake trying to find out why his bike runs like crap!
Every single video makes me laugh, the interaction between husband and wife, his reactions to particular predicaments or just the random banter. Either way the formulas working great, oh the small engine repair is cool too lmao..
As a person who has sold on Ebay, when you contact Ebay with photos and a claim of fakes, they got on the seller pretty hard. But dealing with Ebay as a seller is the fast "race to the bottom" so it might be possible that the seller does deal in real an counterfeit parts as a way to down sell this part.
But if customers keep on complaining Ebay will at first prohibit them for selling that particular item and then after that shut them down.
Selling a fake of a brand should get you shut down anyways. The Carburetor manufacture should be notified and maybe they will shut them down. I know I would report them to the manufacture they have the $$$$ to say STOP and or sue
David Evans there is no excuse... product should have been described as, and sold as a "clone"... if that specific word is not in the description, then the buyer has every right to be pissed
Yep, no fakes on eBay period. Could easily have been an honest mistake. The item, before dispatch, should have been checked as being the genuine part. The sellers feedback would alert you to his reputation on whether they was consistently honest or not. I agree with , in in video, that some of the Items on eBay are poorly manufactured. Waste of money.
Hakim Mohamad its technically not counterfeiting it is called cloning. They change one minoot detail, or a material that the product was made with and they are not liable for any copywriting. It's complete bullshit I know, but eBay allows people to sell items like that without giving a flying fuck, that's why I avoid it
Hakim Mohamad in my opinion it is counterfeiting I 100% agree with you....
A scammer treats you better than the regular sellers on eBay!
Hilarious! Can't make this stuff up! :D
Sudco is a "scammer"? HUH? Premier name in carbs for DECADES!
Still a scam to bait and subtle switch you. Sounds like they obviously hoped you wouldn't notice the fake and there's enough profit in passing the fakes until someone notices. If there wasn't so much time into this it might be interesting to see how the fake works compared to the real.
A man of principle is always good to see. Thank you for your upload , it was entertaining and contained worthy advice.Rebuilding shagged bikes is an addictive hobby...I'm hooked ! cheers and all the best.
Wait a second. I thought a fake carburettor would be something that looks like a carburettor at a first glance but doesn't function as one.
Siana Gearz, same man....when I saw the title of the video I temporarily forgot I disassembled my new carburetor and reassembled it with a stronger spring.... so I thought fuckkk I hope that card I bought works!
Because of the lack of original parts i use a "fake" carb in my 1980 two stroke honda and it runs just fine even without a serial number
Le Fromhell, cr250?
Siana Gearz my thoughts exactly. fake meaning a carb body that wasn't ported for jets or a slide ect.. dude is obviously a spoiled brat.. that carb was 99% as oppose to the original. big deal the casting is brighter. woopy doo da
haha the chinese fake mikuni on my 125 is doing a fine job, only thing the guy got stung on was buying it thinking it was an original part.
If you buy something for half price on eBay of course its gonna be a chinese copy. But they work fine. Honestly i would never buy a brand name carb anymore because the chinese ones work just as well. Ive used many of them, for 1/3 the price thats unbeatable. Carbs in operation are pretty damn simple. Unless something was assembled wrong it'll work just as well.
You should do a comparison on both carbs to see if there is any difference. LIKE if you agree.
Justin Flynn I would understand with something like a turbo, but a carb seems like it would be harder to break like that.
bingo chinese stuff is like a bic lighter. if it doesnt made in japan its no fukin good.
Lol probably a reman
China is a copy cat of Japan in terms of manufacturing - but before Japan copied the Chinese culture so it's even.
Agree
I too needed a replacement carb for the 250 Virago i picked up for my wife. The OEM unit was $600.00....there was a seller who had "knock-off" carbs for $50.00, with a return warranty if not satisfied. The "cheep" carb showed up, and looked as good ad the OEM unit I pulled off, and to my surprise, even had an idle fuel trim screw , something the original did not have (plugged at the factory. ) after install, it started and responded as good as expected, no leaks, nice throttle response, and good performance. No complaints here about Knock-off carbs !!
Try on both carbs and make a video comparing how well they each work
Thats good idea!
That's even a great idea!
i been buying on ebay since 2005, and my wife is still amazed at the process i go through when looking for an item.
it's not just price, i have told and shown her - seller feedback and types of feedback are more important than price; if seller A is selling item cheaper than most or all of the other sellers but almost all the negative or neutral feedback that is recent is for the item i am interested in from seller A that is a problem.
sometimes the extra dollar or ten combined with a little comparative shopping will save you weeks of headache for an item that is not worth the box it came in.
sellers that are responsive AND honest are not as plentiful as they used to be on ebay, sadly.
Damn man, I'm totally with you on this one!
I'm like you on these type of things and am a man of my word and also value people with principles and totally hate people without them.
People that have no regards and decency to sell exactly what they advertise, might as well jump off the highest building they can find, they won't be missed among us.
Like you said, might have been an honest mistake, or just a failed attempt from them to try to scam someone that really would not be able to tell original from fake. Who knows right!?
Anyway, enjoyed the video a lot as usual and keep them coming. :)
thank you for the kind words, glad you liked the video!
Whenever someone says “I’m going to try and make this short” they then contradict themselves. You didn’t disappoint me.
And this is why I don't buy anything from ebay any more. I got sick of being sent fake goods or finding out the used item was in worse condition than advertised or even worse just never turned up. I know there are some honest sellers on there but not enough of them.
Now go and treat your wife to a nice meal but not one from ebay!!!!!
lol ebay pizzas "item not as described"
Getting to the point your have to be careful on Amazon, too. Lots of knockoffs all over the place these days.
I gave up on ebay for the same reasons. Got a few bargains but that one purchase for 100 bucks that is worth 0 when you get it eats up all you saved on previous bargains.
I have delt with several companies that deal with both OEM and aftermarket carbs/ carb parts. I have purchased several aftermarket replicas and have had good experience with them. So if they let you keep it, test it.
Looks like he tried to pull a fast one on you, but when you called him on it he sent you the right one. If you didn't call him on it he would have just let you keep it.
I hope not! It sounds like a good old fashioned bait and switch to me.
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This happens a lot with Ebay fakes. I have even received orders where I bought 5 of something and 3 were fake and 2 were real.
mrlithium69 I have never gotten anything fake on eBay. Yea on automotive type stuff, especially carbs and carb kits there are tons of China copies.
mrlithium69 Same. I know it sounds naive, but a good bit of the time the seller really isn't trying to get over on people, which makes it easy for it to happen. You'd be surprised by how many people sell stuff that they simply saw they could get for cheaper than the price they see it selling for and have no actual knowledge of the product other than the specs and images the Chinese exporter gives them, so when they order say 1000 maybe they get real ones the first time, maybe not even, but they look like the picture they're shown on the exporters website or digital catalog so they assume they're "as described" and post them up. If the seller shipped a real first batch, the next batch they either grab from someone else, or the Chinese vendor they've been using just peppers in a few fake pieces or a fake batch here and there to increase margins, which are then mixed in with existing real(or always fake) stock, and they're still none the wiser because they know nothing about a specific brand of transistor, carburator, USB charger, cellphone battery, etc. and usually have too many products to care to research the ins and outs of them all, so they sell them and usually are the ones that get screwed in the end because you will always be able to get your money back as a buyer on eBay if you're sold something fake. Chances are they can't get their money back from the shady Shenzhen vendor that sold them the shit though so they're hit with negative feedback, a strike or possible suspension, and a huge lot of fake shit they bought for genuine prices and can't off load to anyone.
This is why when I sold online I sold only things I knew, or designed and manufactured myself and never tried to have hundreds of listings at once that way I could vet all of the products I sold and keep my outgoing packages at a low enough volume to personally check every items condition before packing it.
Chris Carr Very good point. You never really know what overseas vendors are going to send you. I have seen a lot of shady stuff like this. I guess it's just the price you have to pay when doing business with overseas companies. Sad but true.
Couldn’t care less about the carbs. More impressed with the relationship between you and the wife. It’s beautiful.
Im to cheap to buy something for the name... my favorite thing on ebay search cheapest first lol
SgtPiggie ive bought a cheap knock off go pro and it was supposed to do 4k was only vga which is junk... but i did buy a akaso go pro knoxk off for 35$ its actually really great camera i use it in my videos all the time
I bought the same thing but on amazon, I didn’t realize it was a fake so I put it on and even ordered a JD Jett kit and it ran just fine but about a month later it wouldn’t stop leaking gas so me and a friend tore it apart and he showed me that it was a fake now I have to do this all over again, I started to check into this and man there is everything fake out there all kinds of parts so I just go straight to the manufacture or a well known shop and get what I need
Awww man don't leave us hanging like that! I wanted to see it working :/ Great video series anyways!
Me too! But didn't want to install anything until the dust settled with the transaction and I knew whether or not I had to send the first carb back. So I had to make a choice after I got the new carb: Install the carb and fire it up, or edit the video. Hearing it run would've been more fun, but I wanted to get this published. Thanks for the comment.
I received a Mikuni carburetor from the Aliexpress website, so from China, and in the box there are stickers from... SUDCO
(I'm in France).
The choke control failed after 10 times.
I managed to start with difficulty once, with an unstable idle.
Since then, I put my old carburetor back, and it started on the first kick.
SUDCO seems serious, and I suppose they have two markets... good, and not so good.
The two dead carbs? One thing that seems to kill older carbs like this in hard todiagnose ways is that there are lots of little O-ring seals in there around the base of the jets etc that don't tend to come in carb rebuild kits. Eventually they perish & let air and/or fuel through. Strip one of those carbs down to component level & you'll surely find some little rubber seal deep inside that have gone bad that you can source replacements for... there's not really a lot that can go wrong with the metal bits of a carb...
Ken Haylock this^ these carbs do not wear out.
I've never been able to not order a complete carb rebuild kit
A couple of videos ago I suspected that, and replaced a gasket/oring for the jet block hoping that would fix it. No change though. But who knows, there could be something else in there.
There will be... look for little tiny O-rings that stop fuel from the float bowl leaking in to the combustion chamber...
Yes, the only reason you need to buy a whole new carb is if it's missing. lol
Man of principle...so few left and current day commercial practices are killing them off fast! Well done, more power to your elbow, I'm with you all the way.
Can't wait for the video where it goes on
Adam hahah😂
it's not fake just not OEM
Bill There’s fake Sudco carbs out there too. He needs to check if his piece is fake Sudco. Sudco has a good page on how to check if it’s a fake Sudco
Actually, thank you so much for showing us this. I don't know if this is quite naive of me, but I would have never guessed buying something like a damn carb wold be something I'd need to watch out for. Thanks dawgy dawg
Nothing is sacred, not even motorcycle carbs!!!
If you want to verify that someone has a physical presense, use Google Maps with their address. I did this recently and found the address wasn't a warehouse of store, but a residence in an area not commercially zoned.
When buying through EBay, put all complaints through their Resolution Center. Especially with Paypal, EBay has a zero tollerance sellers policy. They will freeze payments to the seller and ban them for any kind of fraud if they do not send you what is advertised.
Sorry man, but a "replica" that has "Keihin" stamped on it and is not a Keihin is ilegal anyways. The seller shouldn`t be selling that. A replica has to have a different brand if is no made by them.
Sebastián Cantarelli China does not have the same manufacturing laws as America so they can copy whoever or whatever they want and eat away with it.
Sebastián Cantarelli hey bro send me the other one this my address 192 widgeon drive Leesburg Georgia 31763 I don’t care which one pls
Since the KDX 200 is older than dirt (last made in 2006), it actually is possible that replica was near or better than the OEM part. If I had a KDX 200, I would go one better and install the Lectron carburetor which works better than the OEM part and automatically adjusts for altitude.
You need to post more I get stuck into your vids then u dont post it makes me anxious
Logan Holden Same!
Sorry about that, I'm trying to step things up
Logan Holden has a fever, and the only prescription is more Jennies garage
Some people have suggested the fake might be perfectly good. That's true (and I have purchased copy parts myself) but its not the point. If you pay extra for a genuine part that's you should get. If anyone disagrees... I have a genuine Ferrari they can buy off me.
I buy new carbs on ebay all the time for lawn mowers dirt cheap, I don't care if they're real or replicas they always work perfect.
Horsepower Garage Holes, hoses, o-rings and needle valves. They're not rocket science right? It's just a beat up ol motorcycle anyways. His wife should smack him on these videos once in awhile. It's not like an old Harley or an old Indian bike. She could poke him with a knitting needle.
I'm with you on getting stuff cheap, but this one was priced like the real thing, and advertised as same. Thanks for the comment.
A lawnmower engine and motorcycle engine are very different. And its not what he paid for
Wrong there not very different they both work the very same way
they r not the same, and dont perform like oem. my brother bought and aftermarket one, just to take it off and put original equipment on.
There is couple of options of how they got the castings so identical.
1. They got a real carb and 3D-scanned it.
2. Some die casting company just used the 3D-files illegally they got from Keihin as part of a RFQ or something similar. Boom, exact replica.
3. Like 2., but the files were gotten through corporate espionage. It happens and it sucks.
Put them on blast, give out the seller, so we know who to look out for. Overseas they don't have copyright infringement laws.
I just bought a used original carb and used the extra parts to make 1 good one. I did use Chinese jets because they were $10 for a pack of 30 mains & pilots. The actual origin jets are almost $80 for 4 jets. They work fine.
Thank You for the heads up! Great video. I feel your frustration.
I'm not even really interested in the subject of video but just really enjoy watching these 2!
He tried to scam you but he failed badly !
Your channel is awesome! You have great presence, personality, and skill!! I look forward to all of your other "cheap builds"!! Keep them coming!! and get a sponsor!
it's a genuine @kehin carb just not a factory kawasaki genuine carb . different .
Two years later I found this video and went straight to the SUDCO website. They even have a tab about Keihin and Mikuni Carbs showing genuine vs fake...something is missing here. Love you channel btw!
I might have been unclear in the video, I didn't buy from sudco. It was an ebay seller. But when the carb arrived it was in a sudco box. I have read that in addition to the carbs, sometimes people will even make knockoff boxes.
@@jenniesgarage That makes sense! Sneaky Ebay re-seller.
"We all have our impossible dreams." Hahahahahaha
Love the china carbs for lawn mowers, I order 10 for $12 each and when they don't get here on time, I contact the seller
They send out another package, and within a month I have 20 carbs for $6 each lol
I then install them or sell them for $35, as the local parts store charges upwards of $55 so my prices are competitive, but I also make great profits!
For anything performance related, go with name brand products and stay away from eBay or Amazon as it's either Aftermarket, or used!
There’s nothing wrong with the replicas I’ve put them on 3 different bikes I’ve had and they all worked perfectly
he didnt pay for a replica.........
I'm guessing you either have never bought anything made in China, or you've never bought anything made in America. So just to let you know, things made in China are nearly always junk! Sunglasses, shower nozzles, carburetors, whatever. Junk!
@@scarharting5577 Dont wanna break your heart but most shit is made from China. Even when it sometimes says made in Italy or something like that they mean its just assembeld in that country. While the equipment is actually from China.
@@scarharting5577 Including the keyboard you just typed that sentence with! Seems as if your keyboard works fine!
What's wrong with it being fake? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I know nothing about automotive stuff. If it works what would be worse than the genuine one?
I feel sorry for the wife... couldn't imagine dealing with him every day
Lol
Someone handy and capable with principles. She's got a tough situation there.
They sound like the best couple. I see that they understand each other without words.
I think Jenn should start her own channel!
yes he seems like a cry baby
What i dont understand with confractors is..when you bother to make something as hard to do as a carburator , why dont you make it really well,i mean; you have surely all the machines,(aluminium injection machines and all) so why dont you ask an engineer and build something good...? Why?
jeff wackenthal profits. hard to make quality stuff from shit raw materials and with workers paid starvation level salaries. All to bring down price from $150 to $19.
It's not a fake carburetor, it's a real carburetor that is a knockoff of the original brand. Also, complaining that your time is too valuable while at the same time making a video using up that valuable time isn't quite right, just saying.
The videos he makes will be monetized so he gets money just by people watching his videos,
this is why so many people are making videos on youtube to get extra income from.
Phill Huddleston its a real carburetor that is a knock off.. WELL NO SHIT!!
Phill Huddleston a knock off = fake. what the hell are you smoking?
I don't think it is a fake or a knock off. I think its real.
Logic.
I watched this, and found that he has very little information that is actually useful on this video about his purchase... I was hoping for information on performance and reliability differences... He came up with NOTHING in those areas... His ranting gives the viewer the following tips: 1)The location of serial #'s 2)The main jet markings 3) His need to finish the video so he can go out to dinner... What use is that? Zero value from a person who actually knows very little of what he claims to know about... Where can HE be returned, for not being genuine?
How do you know it's no good until you try it. It could work good
Its not what he paid for.
It might work fine, I hope he breaks it down more part by part and also test the bike with both once he has the bike running right. Maybe the fake is fine...I would buy OEM myself unless someone I knew swore a knockoff they used works just the same.
James Hatfield that is not the point ...a 22 caliber may kill your deer but you bought a 300mag .and received the 22...
I think most people that doesn't got the point just dont want to get the point. So I guess U like to pay full price for a counterfaith Rolex even knowing a counterfait or replica Rolex is illegal.
Blinding flash of the obvious: eBay sellers can’t be trusted...you play Russian roulette every time you buy there. Good on you that you filed a complaint. I bought a 1964 vintage Fireball Meteor camper from a “professional” vintage camper seller for $6,500.00 (Todd Anderson of Salt Lake City). Advertised as in great shape, always maintained, and ready to take camping. NOT! Shocked? Don’t be. It arrived (I paid $850.00 to have it delivered to Missouri) with its door tied closed; belly material rotted out; both wheel wells were destroyed from a wreck; brakes installed upside down (so no brakes unless driving in reverse gear); roof completely rotted out ($10,000.0 for a new roof); propane lines with multiple breaks “repaired” with rubber hoses joining the broken ends and so full of mud dauber nest it had to be roto-rooted out and parts replaced; and the list goes on! Not only did eBay ban Todd, but I pushed the Salt Lake City police to investigate him. Possible/probable chop shop owner. Bottom line: eBay sellers can’t be trusted, “caveat emptor” (let the buyer beware) still in effect, and if you get what you paid for you should consider buying power ball tickets because you are one lucky sonuvagun! We shoppers must pursue these liars and fraudsters! Get them banned and arrested if possible. ( I added the last part because I bought two Apple laptops for my kids. Good prices. Turned out they were stolen by the seller from a medical research company in California. They had classified medical research on the hard drives. By the time it was over, she and her two accomplices were in prison. Karma sometimes works out.). Glad you got this straightened out. You paid whatever fair price the seller wanted; none of your dollars were bad; so you deserved a fair piece of equipment. Love your show. You have a wonderful wife like mine: long-suffering and all too cheerful. We are blessed, young man! Tchuss!
Legit laughed out loud @ "we all have impossible dreams," response to wife wanting a nice dinner haha, such beautiful comedic timing you two have... incredible chemistry. Keep making vids, thanks!
After the generator Dx/Tx and this >>> subbed
I bought a pair of coils from a supplier in Wales , from ebay. when i received the coils , they were half the size of the originals and less than half the resistance when tested. It was going to cost just as much to return the coils compared to the original purchase price. I left a scathing negative feedback comment on his ebay page. the then phoned me to complain about the comment . I told him he was a rip off merchant and he knew fine well these parts would damage the cdi unit as the resistance was wrong . Leave negative comments as a warning to other potential buyers , and always check the sellers feedback
To everyone saying if it works it's no big deal, IT IS he requested a genuine original part! if he wanted cheep the ya it works it works. He paid for real stuff he deserves to get the real stuff! Same reason a kit car isn't worth what the real car is worth it's not the same, it's not real!
Love the vids, keep up the good work
the86125 but if it was a mistake than bfd. Give them the chance to resolve the issue BEFORE you try to get an internet lynch mob going.
Thank you!
lawnmowerdude he did, that's why he made the video in this fashion.
the86125 he said right on the video he picked the cheapest one, it's his own damn fought for being a cheapskate.
Im glad they sent you a genuine pwk! I bought a old original 35 pwk off a kdx for my Blaster and I couldnt tune it at all every pilot jet and main was rich as hell, I changed the jet block oring and it runs amazing now, I had it jetted to perfection in a couple days, thanks for the videos bud!
I can see his wife just sitting there like omg this is my husband 😒🤣
Fyi, they sell Chinese replacement carbs for lawnmowers that are fantastic!
New carb, plug, filters, fuel line, gaskets, primer bulbs, all for about 15 bucks.
And the best part is that the 3 i bought work great!
Goes for Tecumseh snowblower carbs, too. $8 w/shipping brand new was cheaper than a rebuild.
@Jennies Garage, just wanted to add; having an website is just another level of scam. They're getting smarter too ;)
Cant for my life remember now, but just watched something similar happened to a guy ordering something to his quad, and they had a "legit" website, but after he done a website review search he found out like 18/20 negative ratings for it "buyer beware".
btw.. Really dont like what YT have become, unlike others (you:D).. but what I just wanted to say is that I really miss you guys. Can't wait for even like an Shasta update or whatever.. 🤔😇👄
btw, Sudco is an actual company in California with an actual building for an office, not some sketchy distributor on Alibaba. Sudco does make usable replica carbs. However, there are fake sudco carbs and you’re holding one.
Sudco has a page on how to spot a fake btw.
that serial number your looking for refers to OEM, does not mean the unit you got is fake....i bought a new 39mm for my CR500 direct from Australian distributor and it had no numbers on the fuel bowl.
MrKdr500 well done you bought a fake.
I dont understand all the comments saying "if it works, what's the difference?" If it was you, and you wanted real parts on YOUR motor, wouldnt you be upset? I would. If its repro, or something OTHER than original, why did they put it in the original box? Stock the "fake", sell the "fake" but dont rep it as "original".
"lots" haha your wife is fun.
been buying chinese copy carbs from ebay for the last ten years.every one i bought worked as good or better that the original. i have used them on atv's,lawnmowers,string trimmers,blowers, chainsaws. most of the time the idle air screw adjustment has been marked from the factory and is does not need adjustment. most range in price from10.00 to 20.00 shippped. some come from the west coast and some come from overseas.before you go thinking you were ripped off install them and see if they work. buying one these carbs is like buying a air filter or or spark plug. if the carb starts acting up then unbolt it throw it in trash can and put your spare one on.ethanol is what ruins a carb and you can thank the EPA for that.
What did you expect?
jdattaway he expected what he paid for. When u can buy an genuine for 100$+ but receive an aftermarket you could have bought originally for a 1/3rd of the price... can you see where hes coming from?
I'm a ebayer, buy and sell too. I have dealt with some cocka roaches too. Benz E320 fog lamp lens was my latest. Seller thought I was going to pay return shipping on WRONG part. WRONG ANSWER!!. BUYERS do have protection against these fools that seem to think they can do as they please. I've been selling since 2000 & have 100% satisfaction on feedback!!!!! One must know his sheitte or you can get ripped from lack of knowledge. HAPPY EBaying!!!!
nothing wrong with the clone carbys, somebody must be new to this game sheesh
More likely a pattern part than a "counterfeit". cool video though, it's nice to see somebody with so much passion doing something they enjoy.
Your time is valuable .. but you're wasting it whining on youtube?
I see several comments saying, try the counterfeit to see how it works, but first you should ask the vendor what he sells the counterfeit ones for. Then make judgement on whether they're a legit vendor or whether they just have a few legit items set aside for the couple of people who complain. Maybe it can be had for $50 and then, yes, you can review it's performance too.
Dose it still carburet?
Jeff Liggett who cares...its not what he paid for
he switched to fuel injection after all this drama!
I got duped also on Ebay.....it was a lawnmower part, but advertising showed a real OEM part picture....what I got was a $5 knockoff...........your correct in wasting your time only to recieve substandard parts, and they know its a waste of time and money sending the crap part back
If it works and you Can get some of your money back then I don’t see an issue. That’s what I would do personally is just say listen it’s clearly not real so I am willing to pay only the amount that one like this would go for
great plan if you wanted to buy second rate parts
But they let him keep the fake, it shows you the markup they just wanted to be done with it. I had that with knock of radiators they were like keep them we will 2-day ship you new ones...LOL But I took UA-cam video of the issue and said "this is unlisted for now"...LOL Bad press is obvious with the press of a button to let the video out to UA-cam.
michael, where did you see anyone say anything about it being made in the US?
you are so dumb, is that why your comment is gone?
"Michel Linschoten
Where do you think the real ones get made? Keep dreaming that the castings are usa made you people are so dumb"
Hey I have something to ask my carb has a pipe going from the side of it to a little clicking thing and it’s something to do with air and it has a small air filter and when it clicks it pumps air out of it do u know what this is thx
listen to the girl talking, sell all and go have massage Spa and dinner.
And buy the way, get
Yamaha, its cheaper parts and better bike.
You probably don't care but i was given a 125ttr that sat in a back yard for about 5 years and it just need a chain and a carb and i went on ebay and spent $50 on both and had it up an running in less then a week. I'm not saying it's right for company's to give you a left hook and act like they are selling you the real thing but sometimes it's not all that bad buying the cheap chinese knock off. please note i did later replace the chain because i didn't feel safe with a $20 chain. But the carb is still on that bike today and it's been five years and it still works fine
eBay is the best lol
Despite that you were angry you handle the video with no bad words. Really like your video with the tips.
First world problem 😭
I don't see what the problem was. Does it work exactly the same?
The seller intended to defraud period! Ebay does not allow counterfeits thats why the seller responded quickly or would get delisted. If the seller was honest, the part (however sold) should of been labled as a clone on the box so the alleged mistake wouldnt have occurred and the customer knows what they have.
As a buyer you can always ask for additional pictures, if they don’t provide them, don’t buy.
Yeah but if it's counterfeit does it still work or is there nothing inside the carburetor I don't care about serial numbers would the carburetor work if you bolted on your motorcycle
I bought one of those fakes for cheap to replace a mikuni and it still ran light years better. It was worth the discounted price.
Then there's this. I ordered an item from China. It was shipped to Delaware ... however, I live in Texas. I contacted the company. They responded immediately in broken English that they were sorry and had already reversed the charges to my credit card. This was an Amzn transaction, not EBay.
I would have rebuilt one of your old ones, and that bike would run great! these carbs are about as simple as they get. the KDX 200 is a GREAT BIKE! Just because you buy a new "correct" carb, doesn't mean that the jetting will be right, or ANY of the mixtures. You may still need to do all the tuning steps, that a rebuilt original would need.
good luck with that nice machine! I had an 89 kdx 200 (air cooled) that I traded in on a 96 KX 250, and immediately regretted trading it in. Don't get me wrong the KX was an amazing bike, but way too "pipey" for trail riding, and wished I had kept the kdx. the guy who bought it from the dealer still has it, and says that over the years it's had 3 new pistons, and it still runs as good as when he bought it!
Hii i was just wondering was the serial stap right is it like literally stamp lile engraving type of stamp to the keihin body?
My son and I appreciate your vids....you get 5 stars. We came up with an idea for you!!!!! For $30 dollars from an Amazon source you can purchase an O2 sensor and electronics to monitor exhaust gas. With this you can accurately tune a carburetor and monitor while you are riding. This type of system is used on engine dyno's. Super super accurate!!!! Should detect any air leaks including main bearing seals.
Bosch makes a commonly used sensor for maybe $100 bucks but son says his Amazon source should work also and additional electronics are included. We are not sure how the 2 stroke exhaust slime might effect this type of sensor but I have seen systems with air pumps that move exhaust gas to a remotely mounted sensor.
Good luck and again you work is appreciated!!!!
Jeff
When using eBay always pay with PayPal. If you get a FRAUDULENT item go to "my ebay", find the item you bought in your orders. Select "more" and "i didn't receive it".
Type in the communication box you did not receive the item described.
If the seller fails to correct the problem eBay will step in and pull your payment from the sellers account and give your money back to you.
If the seller responds adequately then eBay stays silent.
I put a cheep eBay non original carb on my honda xr400 after a few years it seems to be working fine (I knew it was a non original replica when i bought it, i just wanted the cheep price tag). Is there a reason not to go with the cheaper eBay ones?