Interstate 264: A Run for the Roses
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- Interstate 264 is Louisville's inner loop and the closest road to this weekend's Kentucky Derby site at Churchill Downs. KYTC does a great job at signing nearly all of the off ramps, but when it comes to the on ramps... not so much!
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I think the Watterson Expressway may also end up in Limon
Other signs on the interstate: "We'll sign some control cities, and Some Roads"
I-264 Sign: "Watterson Expressway"
265/841 is the same way. They just put the interstates that the outer loop links up. And New Albany in Indiana.
Kentucky Treatment ftw
@@thexavier456 Yeah. I remember us talking about this. The Kentucky Treatment.
I would LOVE to see you do US HWYs 60 and 101...for reasons, lol. Also, ever consider CA HWY 96? Its a beautiful drive from north of Yreka all the way to Willow Creek in Humboldt county!
Also... US 50 is up there on the list, too; from driving it through Ohio, to the emptiest stretches of highway in the US, US 50 in Nevada, west of Ely, it is a pretty cool road!
I think you should cover some of 400 series highways in Ontario like highway 401, highway 407, highway 400, highway 427, highway 403, highway 402, highway 417, highway 406, and highway 416
You said in the I-71 video you weren't going to do an I-264 video. Glad you changed your mind. Solid video as always.
That was the Kentucky I-264. Remember. There’s two.
@@JayTheGreat_Gaming Watch the I-71 Video. It was a simple observation. Let's keep it that way.
Yeah I was rewatching the 71 video the other day and was like "huh, that line sure aged well"
lol you’ve got a better memory than me. A viewer suggested for the Derby so I went for it
This Highway is why I made a Kentucky Meme: “Welcome to Kentucky: Unbridled Odonyms (Street Naming) and Hospitality”.
I think you should cover some of the parkways in Kentucky since they're like interstates and were once toll roads..... then were actually paid off and converted to free "ways"
If you’re looking for something other than Watterson Expressway, you could sign Limon going westbound since I-64’s carriageway becomes I-70 in East St. Louis 😉
no sigh it for East saint louis and limon
When I took basic training at Ft. Knox in the mid-80's, I-264 ended at US 60/31W, so that could be why the Watterson Expressway ends at that interchange
Yes the stretch of 264 from Dixie Highway back up to I-64 is called the Shawnee Expressway and opened in the mid 70’s while the original Watterson section opened in the late 50’s or early 60’s. The rebuild that occurred throughout the 80’s and 90’s modernized it to the point that it eliminated any trace of the original roadway.
No Calvin and Hobbes reference?
I love your videos, and don’t mean to nitpick, but I know Louisville pretty well and even lived there during part of my childhood, I-264 is often referred to as “The Watterson” by locals, and the original road predated I-264 and only connected both ends of US 60, being it was originally US 60. That section is the Watterson. The rest of I-264, especially west of US 31W/60, was built years later, and is not officially called The Watterson Expressway. FYI, I-265 in Kentucky is referred to by locals as “The Snyder”, offically the Gene Snyder Freeway.
Just because y’all have a nickname for it doesn’t justify the lack of control cities. I-196 in Grand Rapids is the Gearld R Ford Freeway and they put “G R Ford Fwy” and the shield on the top line then a control city (Holland/Lansing) underneath. Chicago does similar stuff with the Dan Ryan and Stevenson expressways.
If you value your safety, don’t get off at any exits along 264 at night from its beginning until you get down to Shively (which rhymes with “chive” and doesn’t rhyme with a prison weapon). The west side of Louisville is the part that is notorious for being very dangerous.
Local Louisvillians do often refer to 264 as “The Watterson” and 265 as “The Gene Snyder”, so having no useful control cities is just fine by them, but I do very much like your “The Way It Should Be”. They could just put the Watterson Expressway designation in smaller font next to the shield like they did with that one US 60 Shelbyville Road sign, and then they’d have room for places like Nashville or Cincinnati below it.
When we started off, I never expected Shively to be the best control city of the entire road lol
Also, I feel like they dropped the ball using SR 1865 instead of 1875 when the Derby started.
They do it for other highways, they could put proper control cities on I-264 both directions and put "watterson expwy" in smaller text next to the shield if they must put the name.
Like Chicago!
KYDOT seems to do that in Lexington at Every Exit with a US Highway on KY 4. IDKW they can’t do it here in Louisville
EDIT: They do seem to do it at the US 60 Exit 😅
Tennessee also does this often, especially in Nashville. Smaller road name next to the shield, then control cities below. More states should do it this way, period!!!
This might be a good place to host a NASCAR race
If you haven't: 275 for around Cincinnati would be an interesting one.
@kosjeyr He did it four and a half months ago. The eastern half was quite devoid of controls…
@tylermarchand2996 my thing about it is how it has that one exit in Indiana. So say you wanted to go around and your west of Cincinnati on 74 and then get on 275. You're in Indiana on 74, Ohio on 275 and then back in Indiana for that one exit.
5:42 As a proud Kansas Citian, I love seeing that sign for Westport Road!
Thank you so much for saying the Taylor Boulevard exit!! Meant to put a Super Sticker request for it, but forgot.......
I-264 KY is currently the only x64 interstate that’s outside of Virginia
MO 364 in the St. Louis area should be I-364, in my opinion. And Evansville, Indiana used to have I-164 before I-69 took over that road.
TheDerpHog and some other control city enthusiasts and I have come up with a nickname for the way that this road and others get signed, which is "The Kentucky Treatment." Any time we see highways getting signed with road names and other things that aren't control cities, we say that they are receiving "The Kentucky Treatment" LOL
Also, when you meet US 60, they list the name of the highway, but they also DO list control cities for it, so why can't they do everything that way??? I'm surprised you didn't seem to notice this.
You should do 287 or the garden state parkway for Preakness, and the LIE for Belmont!!
Did GSP already. Also Preakness is in Baltimore. Also not that much of a horse racing fan lol
@@ControlCityFreakI know you already did 695 in Baltimore - maybe 895 for the Preakness?
By the way, which road are you doing tomorrow?
As a native Louisvillian, we really didn't need the explicitly marked control cities. I still remember when it was two lanes in each direction!
I-264 from I-64 to US-31W/US-60 is also technically signed (somewhere) as the Shawnee Expressway. (Plus US-31W/US-60 is one of the Dixie Highways. And US-31 splits downtown into US-31E and US-31W after it enters Kentucky from Indiana.)
Control cities are more for long distance traffic than locals
Henry Watterson was a prominent post-Civil War journalist at the Courier-Journal. We covered him in my media history course in college.
Also, the ad right after you said "I wonder what it would say" , youtube cut to an ad that said something like an "an epic adventure" which was a bit whimsical...
Haha. I’ve got no control over what ads are run
THIS IS MY HIGHWAY
Bardstown Road is US 31E.
Keep watching, I get to it
Politely disagree about “264 West Lexington” since Lexington is actually east. Would go with Nashville instead.
Todd, now that's a road I've been on several times. Shively (Shive-Lee), that was my grandmother's maiden name (mom's mom). Her anscestors were the namesake of that community. Also, I turn on I-264 west off of I-65 to I-64 to I-265 on Indiana side and back to I-65 to eat breakfast at the Waffle House in New Albany and to avoid the toll bridge.
Shively is pronounced with a long I sound.
And many people from Louisville mispronounce Bardstown as Barge's-town. I assume this because they know what a barge is but don't know what a bard is.
Are you ready for hearing this year's Kentucky Derby on Saturday? Also, speaking of which, my dad told me every first Saturday of May in Kentucky is the annual Kentucky Derby.
It is!
@@ControlCityFreak, it was a good thing my dad and I watched a news report about everything in the Kentucky Derby, especially its history.
I wish street view had a way of going back in time to show how the interchanges on the Watterson looked like before they realligned everything in the '80s and '90s. The ramps and merges back then were definitely *not* a model of good interstate design.
Yeah 2007 or so is the earliest it goes
Here’s Speedboy14’s the way it should be for I-264 in Louisville
Eastbound: Airport/Nashville (until I-65), Lexington (until I-64), Cincinnati
Westbound: Lexington/Airport (until I-64), Nashville/Airport (until I-65), St. Louis
Toooooooooddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sup dude!
Watterson Expresway is out there giving Limon a run for it's money
Hey Todd, no one is taking 64 West into Jefferson County to take 71 North to Cincinnati. KY 55, 555, US 127 will help anyone who lives on the 70 mile stretch between Lexington & Louisville to get to Nati. I do agree just putting Watterson Expressway is stupid, but it's not a shortcut for long distance travelers. The traffic on it is horrible. I'd do 264 East: Shively, then St. Matthews/Jeffersontown, St. Matthews after 64 & then Prospect/to I-71 (although that intersection is a pain in the ass!)
Appreciate the shoutout for US 42! Haven't been to Louisville since the Louder than Life music fest in 2021. I gotta find another excuse to visit, the drive down there from Cinci is very pretty.
I last drove through in 1998! I should give it another look
Can you do a road in Paris for the Olympics?
Saying that I drive that almost every day...
The route stays in Louisville the entire route. There could be St. Matthews near the mall, and Shively (like bee hive) on the SW side, but it's pretty much Louisville the entire route. I think the only controls should be the expressways they take you to, or the airport.
The Sherman Minton Bridge - the bridge shown at the beginning - seems to have been torn up since the dawn of time. Parts of it are closing AGAIN!!! Could have something to do with wanting to divert people onto the toll bridges, mmm??? 🙂
And for newcomers to Louisville flying in for the Derby? Patience is needed around those airport/Fair/Expo Center/Kentucky Kingdom exits. It's a maze. Don't be surprised if you have to do another go-around by the terminal. You can take the Expo Center exits and take surface streets past Kentucky Kingdom to Central to Churchill Downs. Or do what many of us do on Derby Day - park Downtown and take the free shuttles to Churchill Downs. It's like the Indy 500 - don't even try parking close to there. Save your sanity and have fun!
"Watterson Expressway" should join I-68 in Maryland among the pantheon of "Most Overhyped" roads.
Yeah 264 is entirely within the city. Should they probably sign for st matthews/okolona/shively? Maybe
Nah, places on 64, 65, and 71 do the trick
they should sign churchill downs as the main control city tbh. 265 can be (most of) the distant control cities
eastbound: churchill downs/airport, then be like cincinnati and do “to 64” (lexington) and “to 71” (cincinnati).
westbound: churchill downs/airport, shively, then “to 64” (st louis).
Fair, but is Churchill Downs that big a draw 364 days a year?
POV: Lalalala! Wait a sec, they do Kentucky treatment on 395?!!? Now it say Southeast Freeway and Henry G. Shirley Memorial Highway. WHYYYYYYYY. (this just skit. Nor did VADOT nor D.C signs interstates their named roads.)
My Mom is a fan of the Kentucky Derby
She has been to the Churchill Downs museum
Nice!
You plan on covering these:
- I-635 Dallas
- US-127
- California State Highway 99
- US-23
- I-696
I would like to seea I-696 video for the Detroit grand prix. It and I-275 are treated as autobahn of Detroit
Yes
@@ControlCityFreak you could also do a combo I-696/I-275 video since both freeways are treated as autohahns. Would be a first to feature 2 3dis on a single video.
@@brianmiddleton2956 I feel like I did it once or twice before but I forget
@ControlCityFreak I know on some 2di videos, if there was a short 3di you did those too. I-76 East in PA with I-676 comes to mind
Watched this on Patreon the other night and just now, and I wondered: Is Watterson Expressway Louisville's answer to Limon in Denver?
Don't get Todd started on Limon!
Weird but whole other kind of weird
Oh no now you've done it, bringing up Limon is a bad move.....
The Watterson Expressway (I-264) is essentially inside the Louisville city limits, so there is no real need for a control city, other what you listed. Also, it is not Shiv-ley. It is Shively, as Shive rhymes with Chive, so Shively. For citizens who live around here, we call I-264 the Watterson and I-265 the Snyder (named after Congressmen Gene Snyder).
I assumed it was pronounced that way since my high school math teacher had that name and that was how it was pronounced.
Beat me to it - if anything, it just should be (maybe) SDF/Ali Airport and the interstates it connects. Even 265 doesn't have control cities except for New Albany. Just the interstate coming up.
That was the only word I wasn’t sure on so I watched like 5 UA-cam vids on pronunciation (including local news) and they all said it the same way as me. Or rather, I said it the same way as them
@@ControlCityFreak That sounds like when a newbie for a news broadcast on one of the Boston stations came across Barnstable (a town on Cape Cod as well as the county name encompassing Cape Cod), (s)he would mispronounce the name as Barn-stable instead of pronouncing the second A as a schwa, to rhyme it with constable. Dead giveaway there. Come to think of it, this is kind of a weak tie-in for the Kentucky Derby theme!
My interstate hero! WHO GIVES A F*** about the WATTERSON EXPRESSWAY OVER N OVER AGAIN LOL! 😆🤬
Lol
For the 12 years that I have been in Louisville, I know I-264 way too well, as going between my house and the SDF airport required going on I-265, I-64, and I-264
SHYve-lee
Are you going to do the other I-264 in Portsmouth, Norfolk, and Virginia Beach Virginia?
Eventually, but no immediate plans
I'm going to be doing it + 464 and 664 at the end of June 😄
Even if they signed the next upcoming major interstate in either direction, that would be more acceptable.
Yep
Signing I-264 West for Lexington from I-71 would certainly confuse drivers, as Lexington is geographically to the east.
Going south on I-71, I would sign I-265 for Lexington, and I-264 for Nashville.
I’m not sure what I’d do for a partial loop that doesn’t even leave Jefferson County. The radius is too small. Maybe if the merger 20 years ago didn’t happen, then there’d be more options for signage. 265 would be easier, as at least on the Indiana side, New Albany and Jeffersonville provide good spur route controls.
As for my non comprehensive list of Louisville area musical acts, I think I actually gathered a pretty wide ranging selection, all interestingly from Jefferson County (my net consisted of 8 Kentucky counties plus 4 in Indiana). I personally have heard of more than half of the list, which consists of Joan Osborne, Jack Harlow, Days of the New, My Morning Jacket, NRBQ, Panopticon, Static Major, Bryson Tiller and Marilyn Martin
My Morning Jacket was the only one I considered but decided I cared more about Fogelberg.
I know that interstate in The Hampton roads area
Hi
I wouldn't even mind not having Nashville as the control for 264 (as its still easy to go from 64 to 71 south and that curve is beautiful) but 100 percent Cincinnati should be one. I see why Kentucky didn't win the tournament
Overseeded after this vid
1:22 I always thought Fort Knox was in DC 💀
I only know it has less gold than the bank they robbed in Die Hard 3
4:33 who cares what the expressway is named?! Mr. I'm going to say "the Dan Ryan" every fucking chance I get.
Freak.
The same Dan Ryan that’s signed for Chicago Loop or Indiana at every exit?
That guy Dan sure gets around
Drinking game idea for this video: drink a shot of bourbon every time he says “Watterson Expressway”.
(Actually: don’t. You might not like the result.)
It’s the only way I can sleep
Todd, you need to learn to express yourself. It's not good to keep your emotions in, especially about things like Watterson Expressway as a control "city" 🤣.
You mispronounced “Shivley”. It is a long “i”, not a short “i”. “Shiv” rhymes with “eye”.