Steven Universe: Rebecca Sugar's Broken Fusion System
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2024
- Steven Universe crafted one of the most popular fusion systems of all time but fell short when it came to writing consistent fusion mechanics. Why do Gems dance to fuse if they don't need to? Why do some fusions seemingly get weaker when they fuse and has fusion really always been an allegory for one of the most adult acts out there? Relevant links and information below.
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I love seeing content like this where they go in-depth with the show’s themes. A lot of its secrets are still unresolved and somethings just need to be talked about
We're just getting started, tackling one topic at a time. Thanks for being the first comment! 🥇
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@@NOAHandmycreations Haha, I set it up for members of the channel. When someone becomes a member they get access to a couple of Steven Universe relevant emojis and a gem badge next to their name. I have 0 members at the moment so I'm the only one who can summon the shield for now. 😈
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Once I get my credit card attached to my phone, then ill the membership also I wish my voice would be as good as yours
I mostly feel like fusion represents personal connection, those of the same gem or those with similar values fuse easier, it also explains why many gems like fusing or not because some people like connecting with people on a deeper level while others could wish to shy from it due to their own reservations, it makes sense as well when you factor in what Garnet says about Greg and Rose's failed fusion that them talking and understanding another was the closest they could get to fusion
They pretty much go over that in the show, its way Garnet was so thrilled when Steven and Connie didn't by accident. It meant that they had a deep emotional connection.
My favourite example here is Steven being able to fuse with each/all of the gems in Change Your Mind. Specifically, how he did it.
Amethyst, he disclosed vulnerability, intimacy, needing an equal.
Pearl: he was confident, danced her in a technique she would know, bold, precise, experimental.
Garnet: a need to someone to look up to. On the ground, a plan of action, leadership. I'm here. I love you. Of course it was love.
To me, the main thing is all of these was 100% Steven. None of the gems were "active" at that point. What they understand when poofed is vague, but Steven knew what was needed.
So of course he could form Obsidian with them all.... as equals. In sync. United, yet different. Trusting.
But yeah I love the idea there might have been one (1) fan out there who might have believed they fought against a giant mech with mind control lasers using an impromptu orgy.
That's the point. It's about them being in sync. A connection. It has nothing to do with sex. The crew even said as much. But some people don't get it
I thought this had been discussed so many tiems
That’s definitely what they intended but I still can’t help but raise my eyebrow at its execution.
"Fusion is the ultimate connection between gems"
"Oh so it's sex!"
this says a lot about people
I know it's basically sharing thoughts and mind also it's talking
So wait Steven’s a minor he fused with all the crystal gems
The dances are suggestive
We do be living in a society. 🤡
@@Pixelninjaoffical fusion isnt sex, Pixel.
There actually IS a reason they dance - the first time Ruby/Sapphire fused they ended up spinning/tumbling out of the way of danger and accidentally fused. The next time and their first intentional fusion - they danced. Because Garnet was the Crystal Gems only understanding of fusing, they assumed they had to dance. Since it worked for them, it makes sense they didnt bother to experiment with alternative ways to fuse.
It probably also helps them be in the right mindset to fuse if that makes sense
True true, that makes a lot of sense tbf
@@tallic967It's the best way to synchronize. Imagine having a dance performance set to the same song, the choreography may differ depending on your part but you are still going to the same song. Or hell, playing in a band
to explain fusion, its not sex. its a physical manifestation of the relationships that those making up the fusion have with eachother. for example, Garnet is a romantic representation, while Opal is (sorta) a mother/daughter representation. the reason why they dance to fuse is because fusion requires both physical and mental synchrony to work. dancing allows them to follow the same rhythm, making fusion easier. its also why things like hugging or simple contact works as well, because theyre in the same mental headspace. its been demonstrated in a few episodes that when gems start contradicting eachother while fused, they almost always unfuse as a result of not being in sync.
Thank you for saying this because calling fusion sex is so weird. Especially when you’re thinking about Steven’s fusions.
@@Just_SomeRandoTvT ESPECIALLY the one with his dad in the movie 💀
"Garnet is a romantic representation" So, it's not literally sex and can be any relationship and bond but in cases of it being a representation of a romantic relationship, I think you can easily argue that it comes across as an alien equivalent of it. That's why the scene with Jasper forcing Lapis to fuse was deliberately animated and written to come across as rapey
@@User02741 well, that fusion was more arguably a representation of a toxic relationship
So I’m guessing the garnet/amethyst fusion is like a big sister/little sister representation then? Noice
I believe the gems dance before they fuse in an attempt to be syncronized. The first time we see amethyst and pearl try to fuse, they use different dancing styles showing their clashing personalities. So supposedly being on the same wavelength with someone (or having the same style of dance with someone?) makes it easier.
Like Garnet said once (i think) u dance your own way during fusion. The sole purpose of dancing in fusion is to synchronize the gems’ minds and beings so that they can be in total alignment or else the fusion won’t work. The dance styles don’t have to align for fusion just their minds basically. This is why early in the show Pearl and Amethyst found it so hard to fuse cuz despite their dancing they weren’t mentally aligned but later on in the show they could literally fuse by just touching each other due to them being closer and growing emotionally through their character development. This is also why Garnet fuses so easily
@@look4thestarss Agreed
@@look4thestarss yeah, even homeworld gems need to dance to synchronize, like Jasper and Lapis. Dancing along with someone irl IS synchronizing with them, having fun and dancing in a way that doesn't make you both stumble on each other. When Amethyst and Pearl tried to fuse in S1 we see they hit each other, step on each other, they're dancing on their own not considering the other, and thus they're not synchronized
I think another part of it is the first time garnet intentionally fuzes its through dancing so she probably just told them that
That's true. The more different the gems are, the more they need to synchronize, since gems don't just look different, they *think* differently as well. Garnet is an exception since Ruby and Saphire are already so in sync due to being Garnet for centuries.
Still doesn't explain the sexual undertones of the dances though. It's weird. Like, I can understand the idea that fusion is a means by which Gems become incredibly close (and the fact each fusion is a different person makes one think of procreation), but fusion could have been presented through many different metaphors and tropes. I will never understand why Steven universe's fusion system employed sexual undertones, especially since Gems do not have sexual reproduction and would not even have the instincts necessary to understand and express love the way we humans do.
I believe fusion can be sex, but it can also be a lot of things. It represents connection the most, and connection can be intimate, romantical, teamwork, ect.
Imma copypaste something I wrote on another comment just now:
"My favourite example here is Steven being able to fuse with each/all of the gems in Change Your Mind. Specifically, how he did it.
Amethyst, he disclosed vulnerability, intimacy, needing an equal.
Pearl: he was confident, danced her in a technique she would know, bold, precise, experimental.
Garnet: a need to someone to look up to. On the ground, a plan of action, leadership. I'm here. I love you. Of course it was love.
To me, the main thing is all of these was 100% Steven. None of the gems were "active" at that point. What they understand when poofed is vague, but Steven knew what was needed.
So of course he could form Obsidian with them all.... as equals. In sync. United, yet different. Trusting.
But yeah I love the idea there might have been one (1) fan out there who might have believed they fought against a giant mech with mind control lasers using an impromptu orgy."
@@itisALWAYSR.A. I am having trouble following what you mean. Like I said, it’s connection the most, and connection can be many things. At those moments it was bonding and trust, friendships and understanding of Eaqules, but other times like Garnets first and second time (especially when they said: “And you haven’t before?” “Of course not, when could I have ever” and when they fused into the bushes at the end of their song) were moments when it was sex, again, it’s connection the most, not always sex.
@@SpoonAtNoon I'm agreeing with you.
@@itisALWAYSR.A. oh ok
Dance is like an artform, it requires cooperation, synchronization, and a certain amount of 'tunement' with your partner. I can surmise that this is the reason why Gems dance to fuse. This is the reason why in the season 1 episode "Giant woman", Amethyst and Pearl fail to fuse together during their dance as they were REALLY out of synch both in terms of mental, emotional, and intention which showed in how clunky the dance was. This is also why Jasper had to FORCE a fusion with a corrupted Gem but even then it was hard to maintain, IIRC she stated during the unfusing was "We can beat them!" using 'we' as if to convince the other to stay fused, to stay 'in tune'. This gives a reason as to why some Gems whom are really close like Ruby and Sapphire or people like Steven and Connie don't necessarily need to dance as they're already 'in tune' with each other, it only needed that one bit more of push and physical connection to fuse.
This tunement can also be the reason why some Gems don't want to fuse at all, as their tunement is different from the rest, while it isn't bad. It just means that they don't want to fuse nor can't fuse with anyone without it being clunky, weird, and awkward for the both of them!
I’m so happy u said this cuz way too many people often forget that dancing before fusion is only necessary for gems to align their minds and not just for fun. Not sure but I think it was even mentioned by a character in the show, either pearl or garnet
I’ve always thought of fusion as something so much more intimate than sex. The characters are so in tune and connected that that they fuse to share a stable body combining their consciousness into one. Love to see people talking about SU in 2024
One interpretation I've seen about why they dance when fusing is that they synchronize their light waves and mental states to achieve fusion. Same gem fusions are always gonna fuse successfully because they are basically the same and are more compatible. Cross gem fusions are more difficult since all gem types are completely different in light waves and mindsets. At least that's what I heard. What's my source? I don't remember so just trust me bro. Is it official? Nope but might as well be.
I think your interpetation is sound based on logic and what we've seen in the show.
If it's with same gems (as in exactly the same like the Ruby fusions), it's just a bigger version of themselves with no difference in overall personality.
If it's different gems, even from different courts (the Jade fusion), it's an entirely different gem with more parts and instabilities that are seen as undesirable by Homeworld standards.
@ninanightmare6298 I think you brought up an interesting point. Some gems are more compatible with each other, such as the same gem fusions, the only improvements are a size and power boost. Sure, they can just shapeshift back into their origin size, but ultimately, the size increase is the improvement provided. As for mixed gem fusions, it's more complicated. They aren't meant to fuse together thus, malformations exist. Garnet's 3 eyes, bluebird's multiple legs, or even just looking like a giant centipede. Now the best cross gem fusion I'd argue we've seen is Opal. The only oddity is her height, but it could simply be some kind of reawakening or reforming of Amethyst's supposed quartz size combined with Pearl's more slender body. The more components present, the more these malformaties exist and the more difficult it is to maintain the fusion. We've already seen that it is possible to split from contrasting emotions both parties have or just inability to see eye to eye. Honestly I kinda wish that maybe we could see fusions originally look completely different but overtime they become more and more perfect, showing fewer issues as the gems got closer and closer, but hey, I'm still glad with what we got.
What you’re saying lines up with what we see in the show, It seems like dancing isn’t really needed even in a cross-gem fusion if the participants are already very close. See ruby and sapphire or Steven and amethyst, they never dance to fuse because they’re already synchronized. In that way, dancing is really just for gems that aren’t close enough to be automatically synchronized with each other
Why so many people still actually believing that fusion is sex at this point?
It mainly comes from how the gems would dance in the earlier seasons. Amethyst twerking and Garnet spreading her legs
@@Hydroux4915
Yep, in hindsight maybe that shouldn't have been done......
I believe it was meant to be an adult joke. Many kids shows have them for parents who watch these shows with their kids.
The dances
The peridot being asexual theme when she didn't want to go through fusion
The whole garnet thing where even ruby said she felt being used after being lied to to fuse
There are many hints or themes that says that fusion is just as intimate or close to sex that gems have
Because a) the dances are very suggestive and b) the main focus on fusion is usually of romantic nature. And the main face of fusion is Garnet, a romantic/intimate fusion. Also that someone not wanting to fuse is an allegory for being ace (Peridot) doesn't help either. Fusion gets promoted as romantic/intimate in 90% of the show.
what about literally ALL of steven's fusions. this is a kids show ffs
I think the real reason is that Rebecca Sugar was inspired by DBZ's fusion dance. The entire concept of Fusion seems to be taken directly from DBZ, from the way the clothes fuse together right down to the way they (initially, at least) dance before fusing together. You can see the multiple anime influences in the show. Specifically _Revolutionary Girl Utena_ with Pearl's sword fighting (and when Pearl fused with Pink Pearl to create an obvious Utena call back). And I feel like Jasper is a big reference to the Saiyans arriving on earth.
I think fusing is like hugging of kissing. You can hug a friend, a parent or a lover, the act is the same but the intention, the feeling it gives you are all a different shade of love
Fusion as far as i understood just represents all kinds of relationships, not only romantic/sexual ones. It can represent a friendship too (Stevonnie comes to mind, Opal aswell), or family bonds (Steg, Obsidian, Alexandrite, basically all the fusions between crystal gems except Garnet are out of family bonds or friendship). Or literally just formal relationships, not a relationship based on love or friendship but a relationship born out of the need to reach a common objective (Bluebird Azurite, who was born not out of love, nor out of friendship, but rather due to the mutual hatred her components feel towards Steven, so a "the enemy of your enemy is my friend" type of situation, the 5 Rubies fusion, or the 2 Topaz fusion come to mind when thinking about this type of fusion).
I always heard that the reason they danced was because to make a fusion you need to be synchronized with your partner and dancing was the easiest and fastest way to do that on purpose. The exceptions have been garnet (because they are almost always synchronized) and when the gems are facing a super dangerous situation (probably because they are in the same mindset at that situation).
shoot this guy had the same idea as me 30 min earlier
Why not just play rock, paper, scissors and chose scissors each time. Perfect sync.
@@reffa2858 well, you could.
The reason why they dances actually because do you love to eat spinach?But to put in simpler terms , gems make sound waves and their bodies are light , so they have to synchronize them themselves perfectly
Makes perfect sense to me, grammar and all.
i hate spinach
I feel that fusion symbolizes a relationship. Which is why in the beginning of Steven Universe, Amethyst and Pearl had a hard time fusing together on command, because they didn't get along so well.
I think the dance is to start coordinating their movements. Like with the first time they try to form Opal on screen, Amethyst and Pearl's dances are clearly opposed, and they don't really take the other's movements in account, so their movements aren't coordinated at all, and they fail to fuse.
They dance because it's an easy way to quickly synchronize with one another
I wish the show would have focused more on the REASON that Homeworld forbids fusion between different kinds of Gems. The reason is clear enough; Homeworld is a very classist society and polymictic fusions let Gems break out of the classes they were made for. This would have been an excellent theme for the show to explore, but it feels like the show's creators WANTED to leave it vague in order to keep using it as a general metaphor for culturally taboo sex.
I think Blue Diamond explained it well on her comment about Garnet
Don't forget the caterpillar lady, who said she was composed of at least 6 other germs. I used to think she was a walking representation of an organization, and I still ain't convinced thst wasn't the intent.
*orgy*, damn autocorrect.
@@MrRAGE-md5rji thought it was polygamy or polyamory? One of those two
I don't mind Peri being ace so no one come at me but using her rejecting fusion to represent that, made me raise an eyebrow- I get it they wanted to teach kids about consent and asexuality without becoming straight up sex Ed/making it too uncomfortable but that made fusion feel inherently sexual, I know it's not sexual in the slightest- if Greg pearl and Steven all fused it's not a foursome it would be the embodiment of part of universe households family dynamic, if Steven where to fuse with Lars it would be the embodiment of a rivals to friends dynamic not sexual but there's all these little moments that make it feel sexual. I know people read the scene with Greg and rose failed fusion as having some sexual undertones with how they talk about fusion being the embodiment of intimacy the way pearl describes fusion is more along the lines of 'you'll never understand her you'll never have a real connection'- which a lot people believe sex is very important in relationships and that you can't have a real connection without it- but I don't read the scene as sexual myself it's more like pearl is telling Greg she and rose are aliens- he'll never understand rose because he's not immortal like her, he won't understand what it's like to be born as an adult and fusion while not sexual is like drift compatibility or something- it's intimate maybe not in a romantic or sexual way but it's deep and your literally one being or atleast deeply connected your thoughts meld together- he could never experience that level of connection so how could they actually love each other- atleast that's pearl's perspective and Greg and rose while unable to fuse don't need to inorder to have love between them but yeah there's a lot of scenes that make me go 'why so weirdly sexual!' or 'now pearl feels like a rapist' fusion is really messy but no it's not sex, I don't think crewniverse was trying to groom kids there's just bizarre implications
I do not like theory of Fusion being sex because if that thought goes to all the fusion; that makes Steven and Greg fusion 🤢 Unless the theory going goes to some.
Stevonnie is underage too if that's the case😢
I wouldn't be surprised if there was inc*st art of Steven and his dad. Some ppl are just disgusting 🤢
Garnet in the this comic is like the strict but sweet mother watching his children play some sport abd making sure everyone is okay and not injured❤
I personally like to believe what fusion is just depends on the gem. So for garnet it might just be some form of sex, while for others like pearl and amethyst it’s just a manifestation of their relationship(which is why they can’t fuse when they’re arguing) and for eyeball and aqua marine it’s just a means to complete a collective goal.
Personally, my take on it is fusions are basically fusing personalities a.k.a. it’s about feelings, which is why two people hate each other. The fusion usually doesn’t end well or if they have alternating opinions.
It may not be, but in the earlier seasons sure felt like it AND it was depicted as such, even if unintentionally.
I'd say fusion can be a lot of things. It could be like sx, it could be a way to strengthen each other, it could be a relationship. I think it's a lot of things and something else entirely. It's a bond, but it doesn't exactly have to be like sex. It could be more like working in collaboration, being in unison. And for the dancing thing, I think it supports my stance on this. The wiki says that dancing is a way to be in unison with each other and make it easier to fuse.
fusion is a metaphor for deep connection (of any kind), it can mean "sex", it kinda does mean "sex" sometimes in the show, but most of the times it was used it meant a different type of connection (strong friendship, ect...), but it could also mean a negative connection like abusive relationships (jasper and lapis)
fusion dances are a "ritual" to connect, like how we connect on things in real life (exapmle: games are also a ritual to connect)
I've always considered Obsidian to be large building height, like 30m (~100ft) tall. Considering that I assume the gem robot that white diamond pilots to be around 305m (~1,000ft) tall.
I have a cynical production theory for the whole fusion dance thing, which is that it’s mostly easier for the script writers and animators.
The general concept of fusion was popularised by Dragon Ball Z before it was further popularised in Steven Universe, and in DBZ they have to dance to fuse. There are some Dragon Ball Z references scattered throughout Steven Universe (Google them if you’re curious), so it’s safe to say the dance as a tribute to Dragon Ball Z was completely intentional.
To get back to my main point, for a fusion dance to work in the show, there must be space to dance, enough time to dance and enough assurance that nothing will interrupt the dance (such as an enemy for instance). Also, for it to logically make sense, both characters must know they are dancing to fuse.
In a peaceful setting, this is relatively easy to write in, and the hard work can go into the dance choreography.
But fusions have been demanded in more chaotic environments a few times, such as Sapphire saving Ruby.
If they had to dance to activate it, moments like that just could not happen, or they would need extra scenes that would ruin the impact of that moment. So it’s likely they just retconned that fusion can happen without the dance to allow for more drama in fusion. At least the retcon can be explained with an existing fan theory I found in these comments where fusion is just a mental harmony between characters and the dance is just establishing that harmony, which doesn’t contradict anything since the Giant Woman episode was entirely about establishing that required level of harmony.
Also seriously, fusion makes infinitely more sense as a metaphor for relationships than sex because same-gem fusions are established to be purely for more efficient labour in service of the diamonds, such as fusion of the rubies. If fusion is sex, that would have to include every possible fusion with no exceptions, and I don’t see giant Ruby guards fitting that definition ever.
It actually explained in the show that gems don't need to dance to fuse, but it helps them sync, if they are already synced then they don't need to dance
being fused is being fully synchronized with the other person. so when they dance they are simply adapting their flows to one another to make a fully stable gem fusion, but my idea is that why they fuse so quickly sometimes is because of a common goal in mind, for example Obsidian versus Stevonnie. Obsidian is the gem fusion of Steven, Pearl, Garnet, and Amethyst, an incredibly massive and powerful gem fusion that can be unfused very easy because of their differences. When they are fused they have to be on the constant focus of their goal, if that changes, or opinions change, it changes how everyone has to think, but if anyone isn't on the same exact wavelength, they can unfuse just as easy. However with Stevonnie, not only are Steven and Connie so very close friends already, but they think so alike as well. That's also why being fused can make one feel "complete" so you are constantly in the presence of that person that can make you feel whole because of how much they understand you. That's why Opal is only fused for things like heavy lifting or fighting, but Garnet can stay fused for thousands of years, and Stevonnie was fused together for a few days when they were stranded on a planet. So dancing helps synchronize your ideas and personality, but if you already are so in sync then you don't necessarily need to do it.
You actually can use Steven to see how tall obsidian is because one of his shirts are on her fingers, I’m surprised you wouldn’t notice that some of the best fans would remember that
I thought they stated that the reason they danced was to help synchronize vibes. While you can fuse point-blank if you're already in synchrony, if you aren't in synchrony, a good way to hype yourself into synchrony is dancing.
I thought they had said this. Maybe I'm insane
its nice to see SU related content like this again after a long time
The "we just needed a reason to fuse" brings me memories from the E;R video on Steven Univers. Damn you UA-cam
@@taotao19741 E;R one of my favorite UA-camrs, maybe that's why I'm such a contrarian. Already have the SU reddit throwing shade. 🤣👍
Clearly Steven and amethyst have a brother sister relationship. So if someone says fusion is sex that says a lot about them. And how they view sex and relationships, it’s gross. Garnet is literally the physical embodiment of ruby and sapphires love. That simple. Amethyst twerked and pearl does ballet they didn’t fuse at first. Later in the series they fuse seamlessly cause they improved their relationship. Like damn this flew over that many peoples head? Glad we all get it though
Not to mention the fusions between Steven and Connie and then Steven and his dad.
We, or at least a majority , understand that fusing isnt sex. However with how the show does it.....theyre sending us mixed signals sometimes. Its no wonder why some still believe its sex
I know fusion is supposed to represent any relationship but having a mechanic mainly used for romantic/intimate relationships also be used for father-son relationships and two children interacting is pretty damn weird.
I've...thought about that.
I really think more time should have been spent with the fusions formed from platonic relationships. Then make it very clear that fusions from romantic relationships are pretty rare.
Because the vagueness they did with fusion in the show led to some media literacy issues......
@DrawciaGleam02 I forget which episode it is, but an early one, Steven draws how he sees his dad (for a car wash promo?) It's washboard abs, rock star swag, a whole load of things we ultimately see come through to the design of Steg Multiverse.
It's kinda how they see each other, since Greg trusts Steven can do this when Rose failed. And, how did they sync up? It wasn't dancing, was it?
No one's MAKING you believe that garbage. Your extremely weird for thinking Steven is doing it with all of his friends and DAD.
@@Nextgenneptunia If Sugar wrote fusion as mainly romantic in nature then it IS going to be weird for most people. That's a mistake in the show's narrative, not the mistake of the viewers.
@@Nutmeg- Is that something Rebecca Sugar said? OR are you just making assumptions??
I think the reason why the Crystal Gems dance as a way to fuse is because it is not as easy for different gems to fuse as it is for singular gems to fuse. Ruby talks about how when they fused with other rubies it just felt like her but bigger, but that being fused as Garnet was very different. Like Connie and Steven first fusing into Stevonnie, them dancing was a way to bond with each other in a way that allows fusion to happen, perhaps the more gems fuse the easier it is for them to fuse as well as they remember how it feels to be the fusion.
Not that they need to dance, its just a tool that makes fusion easier. Like working together and going 3 2 1 NOW!
Yeah, I agree is not sex, it’s a chaotic version of the fusion dance in Dragon Ball Z except you don’t get 30 minutes to stay in that form.
This vid is all over the place in the best possible way. I love the editing too.
I'm praying that I get more viewers like you, thank you so much! 😁
I agree the fight scenes in this show as a whole can be pretty lackluster. Which is probably in part to the fact that Cartoon Network never had faith in Steven Universe anyway plus the amount of filler Steven Universe has that could’ve been used for fleshing out other plot points that the show just didn’t get to tackle
What are you talking about? The fight scenes were impressive. And the shells overall structure was pretty good
Also, there was never any filler in the show. Everything was plot relevant.
@@seeleunit2000 I’m not saying all of them are lack luster but I do feel a few are held back by things like the gems not dodging blatant attacks. Some fights are great like Garnet vs Jasper, Alexandrite vs Malachite, just to name a couple but some just don’t do it for me
@@seeleunit2000 You can’t tell me things like the episode with Mr Smiley and Mr Frowny had any plot relevance, Steven Universe had plenty of filler, that could’ve been used for things like Lars and the off colors, exploring more about this world and gem kind as a whole. There was so much more that could be done than just having Ronaldo be a dick to Steven over not going on missions, or Jamie simping over Garnet for an entire episode
I think it's a mix of both.
It's a spiritual/emotional connection.
But also kinda sex.
LET'S GO JASPER THE GOAT QUARTZ they were hyping her so much, it was cool to see all her defeats were Vs fusions and a DIAMOND
the fusion is the result of how the components see each other combined into one being, so what fusing means will depend on who is doing it with who. and in the method depends on how "in sync" with each other, either in a function level or a personal level
you deserve more subs bro :D that's something i always asked myself too
@@verycherryberry3752 Thanks, Cherry I appreciate that more than you could imagine! We're getting there, I was stuck at 1000 subs just last month so I'm extremely happy with the growth these past few weeks! 😆
I always assumed the dance was to synchronise better to help the whole fusion process
Fusion is not sex but it is definitely about intimacy. It's about opening up yourself to allow someone else to share the same body and mindscape as you. It makes both components of the fusion physically stronger, but it also makes them more emotionally vulnerable. When characters like Pearl with Sardonyx or Malachite fused (I would also argue Pearl with Rose making Rainbow Quartz because Pearl had ulterior motives to get to Greg) , they abused that vulnerability and thats why it leaves a bad taste in the viewer's mouth.
dancing just makes fusing easier, because they say it cant be easy so dancing with each other helps
7:10 shes around 148"1 feet tall
I think the dancing is to evoke an emotional state of mind in order to open themselves up to each other emotionally. Perhaps to help understand each other enough to make the transition to a fused state easier. It’s likely that this is necessary or required for different gems to fuse whereas it is unnecessary for identical gems to fuse because their states of mind are so similar to begin with that there is no need for emotional understanding within those preexisting partnerships.
Fusion is sex whenever it’s funny
I think this is the crux of the matter pretty much. But of course, SU fandom circa 2014 do love to proselytise
Not sure why that's funny, considering half the fusions involve a child...
@@Nextgenneptuniathe other half dont which is when its funny. Silly goose
@@babykata-dt3ys I see your quite the professional tap-dancer.
@@Nextgenneptunia no i quit tap when i was a kid. I wasnt very good at it
If it was sex, that would have made the fusion between steven and his dad uh... well yeah. Also steven and the crystal gems, because theyre basically his parents
The reason crystal gems dance is to get on the same wavelength. If they aren't synchronized, the fusion will fail. Gem's of the same type don't need to dance cause they're by default on the same wavelength.
some same-type homeworld gems can fuse like that because they're trained to do so. they learn how to manifest it easily.
when it happens with smokey quartz, stevonnie, and the first garnet, were all triggered from emotions, not intentional.
so they can fuse either from synchronization (be it from training, or any other means), or strong emotions.
so i think they dance to sync up, as different type gems that weren't fusion trained. since it's not that easy to generate strong emotions on a whim.
it makes sense that they would need that assist for it.
ruby was fusion trained, but only for other rubies.
pearls aren't supposed to fuse, they're mere servants.
amethysts are strong on their own, they don't fuse.
and like pearls, sapphires were never supposed to fuse, they're just used for future seeing.
though it makes me think.
we know a double/triple/whatever ruby fusion is better in combat. (it's implied at least, I don't think we see one in action.)
would a double pearl fusion be able to do tasks thrice as efficiently?
would a double amethyst fusion be an absolute beast on the battlefield?
would a double sapphire fusion have way more accurate future seeing?
why were these options not explored? unless they were explored, and didn't work out, and we just haven't heard of it. in which case, it would be very interesting to hear about them...
also remember that forced fusions exist.
y'know, jasper and the... whatever that was.
(i'm p sure we also get at least ONE fusion where one of the gems actively fight against it.)
so that also comes to synchronization.
except instead of all of them tuning in to the average frequency and making it easier on everyone, one of them just...
goes all the way into the other's frequency, nullifying the need of input from the other gem. (does that make sense?)
1:22 To be fair, those Rubies are synchronizing forms. It's like a gymnastics routine there, not a dance, but that still sync work. The other clips there are too short for me to glean context of what preceded the contact point though. Also if fusion just = sex and Homeworld was all against cross-fusion and strictly oversaw standard fusion, that's a eugenics planet.
Fusion requires dancing because it requires synchronisation. You ever wondered why it was difficult for pearl and amethyst to fuse ? They weren't in sync.
When Steven and amethyst fused, they were in sink because they were at their lowest. Same gem fusion is easier to sync to then gems that aren't the same.
Hench, the dancing
I always wonder if steven's corruption could like forcefully fuse all of humanity evangelion style, and they'll fight off the cluster giant vs giant. WOuld be a cool au
I think dancing to fuse is just a ritual among the Cristal gems bc, when garnet fused for the second time they danced. Plus dancing IRL is a way to synchronize with people. When everyone is dancing to the same song you feel like one unit. My friend is a huge rave head and he won't stop talking about how he feels when he is dancing in a crowd. He describes it as connecting to the same source in the universe, like the closest you can get to god. He is also very religiously brain washed, and is recovering from that.
Dancing before fuse is probably a way to stimulate the feelings and improve the fused ability or it's a tradition.
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I think dancing is just a way to fuse easier since you need to be emotionally connected to fuse which is easier when you’re dancing together
When ever somebody says that fusion is the horizontal tango, ask them about Greg and Steven fusing in the movie.
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If it's sex that means that amethyst diddled steven when they fused
My personal head cannon is the reason they dance is for the same reason that the Dragon Ball characters go FU-SION-HA
I am a month late but I am pretty sure that the common factor between all fusions is just being emotions. Garnet was first fused by 2 gems that were both confused, scared, and concerned which had them fuse at a single touch since they synced in emotions. They later unfused once they started having different emotions which destabilized the fusion and thus, poofed back into normal gems Ruby and Saphire. We keep seeing this common equation, and dancing was included only because when dancing do we see the gems (and humans) dancing for fun, which creates equal joy and thus results in fusion. During battles, they are all determined and thus a fusion. When all of them see Steven getting smacked around, it leads to anger and thus just need a touch to fuse since they are all in the same page of emotion. Its really funny once I started looking back through the episodes and seeing the pattern.
I think fusion is being in the state of flow together, or when one abandons their will for another in like a toxic fusion
That's why they dance sometimes
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the reason for the dance is said in the same line right before you question it
Its to syncronize
It only happens when gems are on the same page because its an attempt to syncronize not just physically but mentally, to act as one
It doesnt require a dance but in place of that its always been when the 2 gems are unusually on the same wavelength, and its way easier for the same 2 gems to fuze because its 1 personality already
Its a representation of all relationships, not strictly sexual or romantic. they can also be platonic (smokey) or familial (obsidian)
The dancing was so they could more easily synchronize with each other
Honestly I came to the conclusion that fusion was sexual through the dancing but later on in the show they made it less of a sexual thing. Tbh they could've made them dance together like friends or family would and it wouldve made a lot less people assume fusion=sex.
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My own theory: For gems to fuse, their mentalities must be somewhat in sync. If it isn't, the fusion either fractures immediately or is highly unstable. In most cases that gems don't dance to fuse, the gems are in positions where their mentalities have to be in sync, like both Connie and Steven being excited and drawn towards each other one way or another, similar for smokey quartz. There has to be *some* desire to connect from both sides. Dancing is just a fairly easy way to synchronise the mind and calm it down for a fairly stable fusion.
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Fusion dancing is for them to get in sync. You can fuse if you aren't on the same page. In battle its usually not that necessary, because they're fusing to defeat a foe. Amethyst and Pearl are polar opposites so very rarely do they feel an emotion so intensely that they can fuse on the spot.
as far as i have heard fusion dance is a way for the gems to synchronize and sync up their way of thinking in a way that repersents it well visually by them starting with their own style of dance and ending on a blend of the two or more styles, making them in sync and helping them fuse
It depends on there relationship if they need to dance to fuse or not
nearly every fusion has been successful without dancing before
@@berybluu6081in moments of great synchronization. That’s the point of the dance.
@@cajunking5987 that's funny i thought the exact opposite like if you're really synchronized you don't have to dance
@@berybluu6081 yeah that’s what I was saying
“Fusion has been successful without dancing before” “… in moments of synchronicity”
Dancing isn’t required for fusion, being synchronized is, which dancing helps you achieve.
@@cajunking5987 ohhh okay sorry
I just always assumed that the dancing was for Gems to Synchronize, like stated in the show. Some Gems don't need to do that because they're almost always on the same wavelength, but other gems do because they have a harder time fusing together. I mean, we even see in the show as Amethyst's and Pearl's relationship gets better, they don't need to do as much dancing to fuse anymore.
I think it's to ensure the fusion works, and to give the gems time to focus on becoming something entirely new.
*Sees the thumbnail*
Me: *remembering Greg and Steven fusion* 🤨🧐
All the flat-earthers conveniently ignore that.
To the best of my knowledge, the dancing isn't supposed to be "the only means" of fusing, but an accessible one that serves a purpose in synchronizing the mental and/or emotional states of the fusing gems. With same-type gems, that's not really much of an issue, any differences between them are relatively minimal. They're just becoming "themselves, but more," so it can simply be touching or whatever. For cross-gems, they've got to be on the same wavelength, as proven when Alexandrite is formed by Garnet just putting her hands on Amethyst and Pearl's shoulders when witnessing Steven getting wailed on by Bluebird.
I've only got one real issue with the whole fusion system. And that comes in Jasper/Lapis/Malachite.
Cross-gem fusion is looked down upon in Homeworld society, and cross-gem dancing doesn't seem to be a common thing either except among similar overall categories, I suppose, since all the dancing gems during the Pink Diamond Ball were very similar in appearance if not colour.
The original Garnet occurred by accident, with the feelings of both Ruby and Sapphire synchronizing, rather than as a result of a dance. When did Homeworld gems have the opportunity to learn of dancing as a mean of synchronizing? Maybe they witnessed Crystal Gems dance before fusing, but that doesn't mean they would've understood the meaning of it, the importance to the function, and any information on that almost certainly would've been shut down by the Diamond Authority.
With cross-gem fusion being so looked-down upon, why would Jasper, an extremely loyal gem, have even _entertained_ the idea of fusion with Lapis? Where would either have learned a paired dance that considers their differences in height/physique? You'd think that, at best, Jasper would've grumbled about "if only another Jasper was here..." instead of diving STRAIGHT into The Malachite Experience(tm).
I always thought that the reason they dance is so they can like get in sink and like get “on the same wavelength “ cause there made of light and everything and the reason they can do it faster some time is when they get to know each other better and get more in sink
The way I see it when gems dance it has to do with synching their minds and bodies so they can combine and dancing is a good way to do that because it gets the participants in perfect sync with one another. Same gem fusions are not unique because as said by Ruby when you fuse with the same gem it’s just you but bigger, but for cross gem fusions it makes someone entirely new, not just the two people controlling a body but a whole new person with their own thoughts and feelings. At least in the case of stable fusions but some like Malachite is really just two people in one body fighting for control. With fusions like Garnet, Smokey Quartz, Stevonnie, Rainbow Quartz, etc. Not only are these fusions more stable but their components are already so close that they don’t need to dance to be in sync with each other
I personally believe we’d be better off not tying in this show to the real world and view it as its own thing
I think the dancing just helps gems that otherwise aren't on the same page find a point of focus.
Steven and Connie both like each other, but the first time they fused they weren't in the same headspace, but when they danced everything evened out. This also explains why steven didn't fuse with the gems. They were "dancing" but Steven was trying to hard to fuse and not focusing on the connection part.
Lapis and Jasper probably just danced because that what they think the gems do, but both of them wanted the power to subdue their enemy (this is the only dance i think is weird because I don't think either of them saw a gem fuse like that unless it was a thing that happened during the war).
It makes the most sense to me for Opal Pearl and Amethyst never saw eye to eye, but dancing lets them synchronize, but even that's not enough sometimes when they are being too petty. I imagine forming Alexandrite would be easier than Opal because the two are focused on matching garnet rather than each other. Later in the series they probably don't have to dance, but the gems are so used to it its either habit, or the most reliable way.
That's my two cents
Haven't watched the video yet but the flimsy metaphor of it all hit me in the face like a truck when the Lapis-Jasper fusion episode came up where the fusion was suddenly a metaphor for abusive relationship. It was so clumsy, nonsensical, half-baked. It felt like someone just threw up their hands like 'Make fusion the metaphor for everything and anything whenever 'cause people like seeing the fusions happen.'...Which hey, if fusion's a metaphor for abusive relationships (which it was, that one time), people liking it is fucked so that made the episode worse...
1:25 they fuse when they are in sync.
Dancing allows them to sync up. Or if they have an emotional moment together they bond and then therefore can fuse.
It’s why Steven can’t fuse with ANY human. He needs to be connected to them in some way, like a friend or family.
They dance to enter in sync. If they're in the same page already, its not needed, but its something that make the fusion easyer to happen
Fusion is a synergy created and multiplied by emotional connection.
Sometimes it's as simple as vibing. Sometime it's as complex as sexual expression of Love.
To use one extreme to disprove or prove the other with statements of "It's sex, PERIOD" is limiting.
I always though the dancing helped synchronize the gems to help them fuse, but it's not necessary if you already have a strong connection or synchronicity with another gem.
The only thing I don’t like is how close Steven and Connie were to Amethyst and Pearl when it came to combat. The both of them should be leagues further than them so it makes no sense for any training to end in a “draw” and not just a step further in the right direction for Steven and Connie. Especially Opal that one is insane to even consider. What’s the point of even teaching someone who can be considered your equal.
Literally I'm tired of seeing people saying that jasper 🍇ed lapis
The way I interpreted dancing to fuse is to help the gems be on the same mind set and to see what the other gem(s) mind set is like. When 2 gems fused without dancing they were always on the mind set so they didn't need to dance to fuse
I always thought the dancing was supposed to be a simple way for them to synchronise together. The closer the gems are, the less they need to do to synchronise. Especially if they're the same type of gem.
am i going crazy? i clearly remember them saying the dance was to make their mind in sync , did he mention that , or im i really going crazy?
While I do agree with your statement, the issue comes from the treatment of Fusion and the lack of solid distinction by the writers. Fusion in itself is used by gems of the same type to increase their gems' ability and general power.
Looking at how gems of the same type act, a bond is not required for Fusion between Gems that are of equal typing. Cross Fusion seems to require some form of relationship/Unity between the individuals, though there are some cases where they can fuse with unconscious Gems or false presences.
Fusion is not sex but in Earth Gem society, it is almost treated that way while General Gem society treats it as a form of a means to an end, unless it's cross Fusion then its like looking at a Hedonistic Deviant in a sense.
Steven and Greg's Fusion