I’ve never seen a rewire this bad!!! No inspecting and testing required.
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2021
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Hi and welcome to another episode, today you join Chris meeting up with an old friend to drive 4 hours one way to look at a Rewire that the client wasn’t happy with. Well what can we say………………………..
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Seeing workmanship like this…makes me realise I actually do a quite good job
If you're comparing the quality of your workmanship against this?
😬 that's not really a great standard to compare a bowl of spaghetti too!!
We can all say that today!
This shouldnt be your bench mark 🤣
I think it’s too easy to always blame DIYers for dodgy electrics. I reckon many DIYers do as good or better job than a lot of electricians. A classic example of this is on one of the Artisan Electric videos where the home owner (a subscriber) had rewired his house and Corey came in to do some finishing and even he admitted he how well it had been done. Some people have pride in their work, others don’t care and this is is not dependent on whether they are a “professional” or “amateur”
I've seen professionals do stuff that I as a DIY would never do, for example connecting wires with electrical tape (only that, without any sort of connectors, just the wire twisted and the tape on it), not connecting earths, using undersized cable, not terminating network jacks correctly (ok, you are an electrician, but I don't think that wiring a RJ45 jack without 10cm of untwisted cable behind it is all that difficult...)
Agreed. As a DIYer but soon to be training spark I'm 100% I could do better than this in the video. It's crazy that the guy who installed this is qualified, and I'm not.
@@ratgreen I think the installer claimed he was NIC registered but client found out too late that he wasn't, hence the 3rd party test.
I seriously cannot believe that guy was qualified.
Geez, it took a lot of persuasion and an interview with the head of department at my local college before he would even let me apply for the 2391 as the pass rate is quite low.
Ok that's inspection and testing but there's a general pride to be had in your workmanship - and that guy certainly didn't.
Getting a consumer unit neat takes a bit of experience and planning to get everything in the best order, but there's no excuse for the exposed basic insulation above or the absence of a tail gland.
If the tails aren't long enough, you change them or have them changed.
Absolutely solid point that tho! As a DIYer myself I know a lot about electrical and I have partially rewired part of my house and also the shed - up to the most recent edition of the wiring regs of course! I tend to use maintenance free wago’s a lot as well and they are fantastic because you don’t have to fanny around with them shitty brittle plastic junction boxes which are completely useless! Of course that is just personal preference to use JB’s over wagos but they have to remain accessible as they are brass screws. I also try my best to do well as I can when I make off switches, sockets etc so if something needs to be altered later on it isn’t a spaghetti mess to untangle and everything can be correctly identified. Ive had a “professional” electrician round to do the spots in the bathroom when it was getting refurbished one time and nothing was wrong with the old original bathroom wiring before the whole room got ripped out but afterwards there was faults on the pull chord and the connections in the loft were almost touching the joists in the ceiling, they were cheap ass choc blocks wrapped in tape and there were hidden horrors in the studwork where the light up mirror was! I ended up having to re wire the bathroom and get it done safely! The spots as well had the conductors insulation sticking out the ends by about an inch and a half!
But in my eyes if you are gonna do electrics or any trade for that matter, you should take a bit of pride in your work and take your time so you know when you leave that everything is going to be all good! Can’t emphasise that point enough but some people don’t give a fuck about what they are doing and are just simply lazy, they just want the money and to bog off home at the end of the day! Shouldn’t even be an electrician in the first place if you have shitty workmanship. Also brushing faults and visible defects on the condition of the wiring under the rug on inspection is a very not-that-arsed attitude if you ask me, this is why properties need a good EICR!!
Hi Chris, What a nightmare of an installation. I feel so sorry for the customer .Standards are so high from you guys!
Looking forward to your next upload! Take care, stay safe.
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Shocking workmanship over the whole house, plastering is on a new level! 😳🤣
Brilliant video Chris. Glad to see I’m not the only one getting these types of jobs 😂
OMG I'm not an electrician - but even i could see that was a shoddy job - thanks for highlighting this type of work to us newbee's
UA-cam said this video recommended people to watch my fall kitchen cleaning video so I had to come check you out. I’m saving this video for sure. It’s full of useful information. Thanks for sharing!! I can’t believe people actually get paid to do poor work that they know isn’t up to par. I can hang a chandelier but I’m no electrician lol.
I am loving the more tools that keep coming out to do the job compared to knob and tube days.
I'm a guitar teacher who recently qualified as a domestic installer so I can better take care of my investment property portfolio, and I often find works like this when I buy a property from a retiring/tired landlord. All too often it's the same "electrician" working across the old landlord's portfolio... dreadful!
This kind of crap is WAY more common than I ever thought when I was just a homeowner.
Thanks for the video, Chris - you've helped me a lot during the courses and quaification process. Top Man.
Well done Chris! It was good to see Andy.
Thanks for your time and effort.
Well done guys. Chris make sure you take Andy to the chippy.👍
Andy made it !!!!!!! builders work probably or DIY Dave.
love the new store :-)
Great video. Keep up the good work!
That had character, what a beautiful job ! 😂
Absolutely brilliant chris
Shocking... Problem is if you are registered you get reported, if your not nothing happens ... Usual customer hunts for the cheapest price then moan after its poor standard 🤷🏼♂️
I went to quote for an outside socket the other day. She had another Electrician in before me and he quoted 90 quid. Straightforward enough install but she was under the impression that was to much and he was “having her eyes out” I told her that was really cheap and asked if she still had his number because I couldn’t do it properly for that. She will have found someone to do it for a “drink” mate down the pub probably. But your right, you absolutely get what you pay for. If this guy portrayed himself as a qualified professional and charged appropriately then its difficult to to tell what sort of job your going to get.
Thanks for your useful information
This comment is not meant to sound racist at all, but I remember going to work with my dad on a few properties when I was in my teens, and we'd always see a lot of unqualified workers, mainly Asian, do electrical/gas work and then have their friends/co-workers "sign off" on the work, without even checking it. Happened all of the time, mainly with cheap Asian landlords who just don't give AF...
That is absolutely the truth and its not racist to say it as everyone knows they cut corners
They are good asain tradesmans the reason for the poor workmanship of this job is the customer is from Bradford and they don't like paying the professionals they want everything cheap .so what they pay is what they get
Wonder what he charged to do that?
The board was a masterpiece I must say 😂
I love this channel, watched it for years and people may shoot me down, I’ve been a fire alarm and security installer for 20yrs, and not a qualified electrician may I add, I’ve rewired my house in stages / refurbishments through the last 2yrs and in my opinion to a high standard following the regulations and trying to future proof the house too , I have a new extension under way next year and have that to wire and the house will be 100% completed.
My hope is I can get an electrician to come in and go through and do what needs to be done to sign off.
I will come and do an EICR
@@Cjrelectrical Hi Chris, I am in the west Coast of Scotland ✊🏻😃
This is going to be a good one! 🤩
Did not disappoint! Poor client though 😳
It's not a grommet, it's a Wallace! 😂😂😂😂😂 @3:49
Nice one Chris job well done matey
I’m no spark but fooking hell. That is a disgrace. I’ve hope you’ve reported both. I feel like a pro looking at that. Then again I have pride in my work. Do the right thing Chris
Looks like the sparky who did the 'work' and all his mates have found your video, Chris!
How these so called electrician's can sleep at night, knowing that they have been paid good money and trusted to do a professional job and then leave it in a dangerous condition is beyond me!!. More needs to be done about holding these cowboys accountable for there lethal work.
to think in the land of the free including canada most local governments need to sign off on work and be inspected with permits filed. you all in europe seem to be self enforcing with none of you having the ethics to report or reporting agency as efficient as government doing right for the people. yet we still see this kind of work after so called inspection or they didnt bother to get permit lol
But did they pay good money? I remember my uncle, who was an electrician, telling me about a customer way back. Gave him a cheap price but he wanted it cheaper, said he found somebody to do the job for less. The guy he got used thin flex not suitable for heavy loads and there was a fire that started under the floors. I bet he said he paid good money as well.
15 years ago we had an extension built, I took the opportunity to pull new T&E to new sockets that the property so desperately needed outlets, the bedrooms only had one socket, the lounge two and the kitchen two. The CU is an old Wylex fused board that couldn't be changed although all the fused were replaced with MCBs / RCD and RCBO's, and the CU was tidied up because it was a right state. When the inspection was done by the onsite electrician and a commissioning electrician they said if I got the right qualifications that they would give me a job! Doing it is easy, doing it right is what counts.
The guy that undercuts you an the rewire quote 😂😂
That fuse box looks like one I did as a joke. It was a damaged CU I hooked up on a wall in hall way the new board was the other side. I call the boss in to look at it. He almost had kittens I say it OK for my 1st one. Then I show him it just hooked up an wires chopped off just stuck in the ceiling. I used chock blocks in it twisted some with tape.
wow, that was rough, I think that might have been my Adams weekend job??
Hope the customer didn't pay for it!
Hope you also reported him to his CPS provider too
If I brought that house and found that work, I would expect compensation from whoever signed it off, I'd take them to court to get it if needs be, so how do these guys get away with this?
like chriss says im not going to give names thts how no one dose the right thing and it just continues
I brought a car with a rotten chassis, but with a valid one month old MOT a few years ago, the garage who MOT'd it ended up paying me a significant amount of compensation. Surely an EICR has as much standing as an MOT.
Thinking of using this video for a drinking game ….drink every time you hear “yeah” 😂😂
I love your videos all the way from the United States.
"Rewire"...
They replaced some sockets, switches and bashed in some lights to conceal the fact that they just really couldn't be arsed to do any real work. Than threw in a new board in 5 minutes and fucked off
That is exactly what happened as far as I can see.
"That's not a gromet, that's a wallace" hahahahah
The silly thing is that mess of a board probably took longer than doing it properly -electricians generally have a methodical system they use for wiring boards and neat routing of cables is just second nature. Im not a sparky but, Ive worked on site with them and -the wiring is so neat and so fast.
it shows zero pride
I don't live in the UK, am in the USA, but it looks like a total gut job, don't know who did the walls and patch work, but the homeowners didn't get a good job at all ! I do know that the UK is on 240 volts ac ! some of the exposed wiring is dangerous, not to mention the cut grounded circuits! Hopefully, you guys can fix everything for the house hold !
Where has James gone?
There was no life in the lad. 🤷🏻♂️
Yep you can tell the level of knowledge because they have earthed their back boxes, we did this for about a year in 1983 when there was all that unnecessary earthing being done under the 15th. not done it since thank god.
What a shocker!
Shockingly shoddy work!
Delroy the Spark must have been round! LOL
Yeeeeee haaaaaaa! Go fetch the sheriff boys! I guess we need to round up a posse!
O dear Chris it doesn’t seem to get any better, and as you rightly say I feel desperately sorry for the client . Those certificates were NIC so I think some feed back to them is really warranted, I know it’s often regarded as shopping on your own but these people are a danger to the public and should be treated as such . Although I’ve been often critical of the NIC , they will investigate a installation if they feel a public safety issue has taken place . Which ever from seeing your video would seem to be the case . Bless you you do seem to be a bit of a magnet to have to deal with this sort of mess . Name and shame is the only way we will ever remove these idiots from the trade, and possibly save someone’s life in the process. Best wishes and kind regards 😀👍👍👍
This kind of work was very usual for my boss years ago. He wired and we had to go in and clean up the mess.
It's like my mates house here in Western Australia. You have to search for light switches. Some are at ceiling level and all are random places in the rooms. Sockets are at random heights (some ceiling).
Here in WA we are registered EC's but can always find work this bad
The theme tune of this video should be “rip it up and start again”
Now I am no sparky......but I can see.
He did it on the van! 😂
Where's James gone it would have been good for him to have seen the cowboy work, that homeowner should sue whoever did that rewire
Cost of hiring solicitor to sue = 25K. Getting another spark to sort the mess= 3K. What would you choose?
Not sure what I’m more shocked by the 25k solicitors fees or the 3k to Rewire.
@@123tinhat123 Id choose neither as you're off your head on both.
@@Cjrelectrical As a property manager in London, I pay roughly between £3k and £4.5k for rewires depending on size of property, plus the cost of decorations afterwards which adds about another £500 to £2k depending on chasing etc. £3k might be at the bottom of the range but still feasible.
For a 1 bed flat yes
Abysmal! Is too good a word for that mess lol 😕 worrying that someone finds that acceptable and signs it off as such.
Staggering. Is this the work of a UK contractor, or someone from abroad?
As a commercial/industrial adult trainee in 3rd year with a bit of experience in high-end new builds, I can't believe people have the cheek to charge people for work like this, it's absolutely shocking. Looking at the board brings up a little bit of puke into my mouth, did he use a mouse to strip the main tails 😂😂😂. IMO you should put people like this on blast CJR, name and shame.
Looks like an artisan job to me
😂😂😂😂
Lol.. 😂😉 It's not you Nick... No flexi con! Pmsl
Can’t be he doesn’t know what a screwdriver is anymore.
True is there an EV charger??
Dave Savery couldn't have put a video out on this there'd have been nothing but beeps hiding his obscenities lol.
No wonder there is a general lack of trust towards tradesmen from the general public when you see stuff like this. Unfortunately it's the negatives that people remember and it tars them all with the same brush. This is why word of mouth and honest reviews are so important.
We only use trades by word of mouth, which has worked out well , we have a full set of trades now we can call on, who also get work from our family, friends & neighbours, we look after the trades and they look after us, sorry chaps & chapesses , but this video is the reason why.
That was diabollical workmanship
I don't understand why people do this. i'm a DIYer and I'd never do what they did to your clients house. I have just added a socket behind the TV in my mums lounge, Easy enough, chase out for the cable and back box, then I pulled a leg up from a nearby socket and dropped it down to the new socket, then ran a cable from the new socket back to the nearby socket. No need for joint boxes or anything. (It's a bungalow so moving cables is pretty easy in the attic) Plus I used grommets on the metal back boxes, plus I fitted an earth flylead to the metal boxes as well.
I did find a DIY socket installation in the brickshed joined to the bungalow installed by the previous tenannats using underrated flex, plus when I took the socket off all three wires fell out and I was left holing the socket.
Wow! That makes my two DIY rewires (15ys and 25yrs ago) look immaculate compared to this, at least both mine passed inspections!
That is a yeet service fuse job. Seal off and get it safely re-wired.
When the screen went wonky in the vid ,that was the poor electricity trying to escape from that mess off wires you unearthed , pun intended .
As delroy would say no electrician has done that that is a shit installation
I have never seen that before
when I did the sparks course it was on the 16 edition of the regs.
That isn't just rough, it's bloody dangerous.
That ceiling looks like one big fire risk in itself painted with gloss paint.
Thank you
Maybe the 'sparky' who dressed the CU is an Italian pasta chef in reality......
it's the best spag bol I have seen in ages!!!
You really should name and shame these people, it's not fair on their next and future victims to allow this sort of shoddy work to continue.
Absolutely agree...
He has to be careful due to libel and slander laws, though I do agree. This is disgraceful work.
@@TalesOfWar that’s rubbish. It is only deformation if it’s false and his videos clearly prove it’s true, therefore it can’t be slanderous.
It’s all bollocks, I’ve tried to complain to the niceic before and all they say is you have to give the contractor a chance to rectify any faults, but who wants the badger back in thief house.
Bodger and their
Chris, when you opened the board, I was just tucking into my Spaghetti Bolognese. Could not tell the difference between the board and my plate! How do these guys sleep at night! I would be dragging the guy through the court. P.s… where is James….
I am appalled that someone worked to that standard but I am horrified that someone signed it off!!!
as a painter. the decorative state in that flat is shocking beyonds words. the shiny finish on that upstairs bedroom ceiling is just jokes. i wasnt going to comment until you pulled that double socket and you can see its been siliconed round the edge..... jesus... i work on rentals every day and am rarely surprised but..... gee whizz man
Did the DNO install the service head crooked? Must have been a Friday afternoon job…
Hell, that is the worst house of electrical horrors I have ever seen. Like Chris says, I feel sorry
for the client too. Hope you can put them on to a proper electrician to sort it out with a complete
re wire. Thanks for the film, regards, Chris.
With everything shown in this video, is it any wonder that in the US and Canada, all rewire jobs must have a local permit and inspections from the planning commissions. Or as in Canada ESA to insure compliance with codes.
The last panel upgrade I was involved with, the guy from NB Power walked up to me assuming I was the on site electrician and handed me a new meter tag and said I could pull the meter on my own then left.
The Inspector never showed up, but the permit was signed off as accepted.
The Licensed Electrician made a mess out of the main panel including letting the bundle of lives too close to the plate screws and shorted out the microwave circuit. That was after he drilled an extra 3" hole in the side of the new panel because he didn't measure the mount up.
If it wasn't for the permitting system and inspections I could have done it myself, but the way it's set up you have to get a licensed electrician over or you have to wait weeks between stages to be "inspected"(extorted).
I traced and labeled all the circuits, ensured the panel was ready to be swapped. Replaced all the pony panels down stream, checked all the circuits for code violations, the licensed electrician only had to disconnect the wires, drop the panel, install the new one, reconnect the circuits. Cost me 2 grand and he left a shit show behind.
The system is only as good as the people enforcing it, and it's all security theater as far as I'm concerned.
I was at a job and did a maintenance free jb and i didnt have any earth sleeving, was absolutely out in the sticks so had to rough it without any sleevo. I felt like the biggest cowboy ever just for that, never mind this level of disgrace.
Should have opened up another light fitting, stole it from that 😉
@@abcxyz820 😂😂😂
That exposed (and live) switch just sitting in the cupboard next to all the boiler pipes - unbelievable. Just disgusting that people can leave a job in such a dangerous state.
You can fix the flicker by not using 30 or 60 FPS on your camera, switch to 50 so it matches the frequency of the power grid
Multiples of 25 in the uk. Doesn't always work with led as the drivers frequency isn't always mains frequency referenced. And as the video had multiple bars and not a few, i would guess the latter.
It's called aliasing. To fix it, the camera frequency must be at least twice the frequency of the light flicker. This is called the Nyquist rate.
Bullshit !!! Hahaha does that work ???
The house in general seems to be in a really bad condition. Really needs a serious renovation
It needs gutting, totally stripping back to the studs and redoing. I'm guessing it's a rental property though ...
I think we'll find more and more of this after the frenzy of home improvments over the lockdown period.
Ah the British property market at it's finest!
Great and neat install with some good tips, though RIP headphone viewers xD
A "f***ING hell" slipped out when I saw those bare tails. Rough as a badgers.
perfectly hosed up ;)
When you took that cover off the consumer unit 😮😮
Awesome video as always 👍🏻
An nic contractor is not meant to be signing off 3rd party installs unless instructed by building control, napit members can.
It's obvious the EICR is rubbish just like the install.
The customer can complain to the NIC plus building control he may get some compensation if the second guy is NIC registered.
Am I surprised no, there's a lot of people out there that don't care and just want the money.
And the fault lies with the governing bodies and building control, because both don't care, I have lost count how many times I have told the NIC about their members work, and nothing gets done.
If more people got killed they may do something about the state of the industry.
With Napit 3rd party work is almost like an inspector standing over your shoulder. The amount of evidence required just isn't worth the hassle of the job. Steer well clear of 3rd party under the competent persons scheme. I've done this 2 times too many.
@@rayc1503 Agree. I tried this with Napit and won't be renewing TPS, FAR too much paperwork all so someone else can do the job.
Eastern European sparks written all over it
Zahid Younis is his name who wired it, done some research.
When I bought my house found stuff like that so stripped it all out and did it my self. Aren't these sparkies bothered if someone gets injured?
Damn, thought you had eminem on for a moment 😆😆😆
Did the spark do the plastering aswell 🤔 🤣🤣
Mine has been rewired like this by a qualified niceic electrician. Had heavy downpour the other day the lights are now flickering.
That was scary....hell's teeth!
Interested to see what comes of this, surely NEC should be responsible in some way if that’s the governing body of the person who signed it off.
NICEIC they don’t care bud
They care only for cash or card
Money money where is the money they say the don’t care if is a risk of fire or not because is not their property that’s why they are some of them in NICEIC offices are some masiv big fish 160kg and they waiting for small fishes who have the money
They're only interested in prosecuting registered members. DIY Tom, Dick or Harry can have a go doing whatever they like. Without suffering little backlash.
The truth is if a "competent" person is doing any works to substandard level. Then most probably most their work is of shit quality. No two electricians are alike. We unfortunately have the good, the bad & the ugly In these trades. Still many of us take pride in out work.
NECEIC 🤦♂️auto correct. I get the cynicism but a governing body is supposed to be just that I think Chris said in the video the person signing it off as registered therefore if they are failing to meet standards they should be held to account. That’s what we as sparks and ultimately the customer pays a ‘NECEIC” registered tradesman for.
If the governing body is failing then they them selves should be reported up to Secretary of State who owns the HnS act.
They don’t care NIC nothing they care only for ££££££££
Today we living in capitalisem called if you have money you can buy everything you can buy a lawer you can buy a police with you you can buy NIC everything
And other think is depending what you pay if you pay cheap labour you get like this job shit in the video if you pay a bit more you will get a good competent person but some people today they don’t want to pay they looking for cheap labour
Get them to get in touch with NICEIC , if it has been Part P certified the NICEIC would correct all faulty wiring. The guy who certified it is NICEIC registered
What size cable is that 13A fuse in the FCU protecting?
Call artisan electrician Corey will come to do a rewire and fuseboard replacing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
8:56 What is it with Electricians and short ladders? At the top of a staircase as well! Thomas Nagy is also guilty of this.
Just wondering as there are a number of c1's on that very poor install did you have to make safe or disconnect anything before you left under duty of care?
as I was watching I was like "oof geeze, I guess someone will have to rewire the lights, put in new lights and re make off the sockets" and as I kept watching it kept getting worse, and worse. needs another rewire by someone competent.
It actually started depressing me seeing how bad it was..
Feel for the owner
Unless he did it himself? 😏
Shocking rewire to say the least. The so called electrician must have been a cowboy at best. Honestly looks like someone's let their uncle loose on the property who thought he was an electrician.😂🤣😂🤣
What disciplinary action can be taken against rogues who perpetrate such things? There needs to be easily enforced punishment.