2 Months Later: Tudor Pelagos 39 - Scratches?
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- The Tudor Pelagos 39 has been in my collection for about two months now. I purchased it immediately after release, and my impressions have changed just a bit since I first got it. I wanted to review what about the watch is different with more time and answer some questions I've had since I picked it up.
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Fact is if you wear a watch it's going to get scratched. Doesn't matter if it's a Patek, Rolex or Tudor, all are prone to scrathes. They are capable of lasting a lifetime. Just get them serviced once in a while. They're meant to be worn, not to be locked away in a safe.
Agreed.
My exact view point, wine is to be drunk, art to be appreciated, cars to be driven and watches to be worn. Enjoy items for what they are and use them.
my tegimeted Sinn does not scratch. 2 years now, beaten daily, not a mark on it
Ceramic omega is fine
@@UA-camuser1aa hell yeah. That’s what I want to get.
Two points you brought up here that I completely agree upon: First- Titanium grade 2 is more prone to scratches than grade 5. Most of the manufacturers use grade 2 and if there's scratches they'll be visible. Titanium is lighter, no argument about it but scratches on SS can be easily removed by just polishing. I've had a Titanium watch and no matter how Titanium oxidizes the scratches will remain visible. I'm not familiar how scratches on Titanium watch can be removed and if that will hurt the surface. I don't have problems with SS, since I've removed scratches before and it worked out perfectly for me.
Second: the clasp- some people find it too wide and it'll depend on the wrist size to determine whether it'll look weird or not. If yes then the rubber strap should be used which btw is a nice treat. After all it's all about if you like the watch or not. Some watch fans are all about protection others don't mind the wear and tear. Whatever it is, enjoy your watch and use it in good health. Good review by the way!
re: toughness of the bezel. I have really worked out my Pelagos 42, including hitting a big black steel post, while running at night. It was a massive clunk! There were bits of metal in the grip around the bezel, and my immediate thoughts were of how much this was going to cost. I got home, and picked the metal shards from the bezel grip with a safety pin, and noticed that the teeth were almost perfect. The metal shards were from the steel post, not from the Pelagos. The watch was not damaged except for some slight marks on the top of the grip teeth. To sum up, this is a tough watch. If you want a daily wearer, trust any Pelagos. Why would you want a overly shiny Rolex? The finish is cool, stealthy, and will last.
Note that the titanium on the 39 is not the same as the 42. The 42 is made with a harder grade of titanium and might just survive some more punishment than the 39.
Good to hear about your watch, though.
@@timtim2949
Noted. Thankyou. I am very impressed by all things Pelagos.
I’ve wanted this watch, but unsure if I wanted to sell some of my existing pieces to get it (will never sell my 16570). Watching your videos for the last few months and I know we have similar tastes. This video has pushed me over to the BUY IT NOW column. Thanks! And, as always, love your take and love the videos- keep ‘em coming!
Appreciate it! Glad I could help in some way! Hopefully you enjoy it
He's clearly not afraid to wear the watch like a true man.
No kidding. I couldn’t scratch my watches that much in that little time if I tried haha
That shot of his explorer 2 with metal shavings all over it. Priceless 😮
Haha yeah my warehouse is not kind to my watches. I’m not totally oblivious, but they aren’t babied
Nope! That's watch abuse! Someone report him!
Watches shouldn’t be babied or be safe queens. My BB58 is covered in micro scratches and I don’t abuse it.
I assumed that you were rating scratches on how scratch resistant they were, but seeing how much you seem to enjoy scratching your watches, I now understand it’s on how good you can scratch it up!
Clasp lengths are one of my biggest issues with some watches. Glad to hear someone talking about that!
It definitely can change the wearing experience!
Got my Pelagos 39 yesterday! PERFECT is the right word for this watch.
Just picked up this watch today! The way you explained the bezel action was spot on, I came from a Seamaster that was definitely the “turn from the sides type” and wasn’t used to the “push from the top” action on this one
Well said, that is the best looking watch I’ve ever laid my eyes on. It’s proportionately perfect!
The watch that you wear more often is the one you feel matches your personality the most. I have fair amount of new watches but the one I cherish the most is the Tudor made in 1976. The color design just matches my personality the most.
Regarding the bezel movement, that’s definitely a feature not a flaw. You don’t want your bezel getting knocked and easily turning when you’re using it for diving purposes. Jesus… people really will find literally anything to complain about.
Nice update. I love the fact that you clearly wear the hell out of the Pelagos 39 (and Explorer for that matter).
That many scratches isn't normal! I wear the hell out of my watches to but they dont look like they have been dragged behind a car!!
Haha I do. Combo of a Doberman puppy with a metal collar that’s gotten me several times and working in a warehouse around a fair bit of steel
@@HarrisonElmore I hear that about steel work! I work for a sheet metal company making lamp posts and i never wear my good watches as I've had some close calls especially on the guillotine where I've scrapped my bracelet
It looks pretty used for only 8 weeks. And you can clearly see that brown titanium tone. Something you really have to like. For a real dive watch it lacks of a bezel you can easily read, especially when it is hit by sunlight coming through the surface when you are diving in the ocean. Therefore it is "just" a desk diver.
Yeah I think it's mainly from my dog's steel collar. I'll let everyone know when I dive with it about how it looks as the light filters through. Thankfully, it gets pretty dark pretty quick.
Wow, seems like you scratch up your watches quite a bit. The pelagos you have had for 2 months lots of scratches already, it would take me 2 or 3 years perhaps even 5 years to even get that amount. To be fair I don't wear a watch to work I work in maintenance wearing a watch would just get in my way, I would need to take it off and put it in my pocket so many times in a day. Therefore I only wear a watch on my days off and only when I am going out somewhere or if I happen to be on vacation.
If I had to have one watch and one watch only this would be it. Just perfect.
New subscriber. You provided a very detailed and easily understood breakdown of one of my favorite watch releases in years. My only disappointment with your content is that it took me so long to become aware of it.
Welcome aboard! Your disappointment is shared over here! I've only just started.
Great review! I was on my AD’s waiting list for months, when I got the call to say it was in stock I went to try it on but I left the store empty handed! I couldn’t get past the length of the clasp and dull colour of the titanium bracelet, I was gutted and keep coming back to it but ultimately I think I should stick to my gut feeling 😖
A straight forward review I really enjoyed. I've been going back and forth between getting the Pelagos FXD and the Pelagos 39. I'm leaning towards the FXD, but concerned about how large it is. Thanks for a great review.
My gut feeling is there's a decent chance that a 39mm FXD will eventually get released, since Tudor has obviously seen success with its 39mm watches.
That dmg in 2 months? Wtf are you guys doing with ur watches... bashing it against door sills everyday? And Bezel getting knocked off... again what? There is no way you can hit the bezel and it just pops off... even with constant pulling force u cant get the bezel off. You need to pry it open. It is definitely not easy to knock the bezel off man.
I attack doors with the only tool I have…my Tudor Pelagos 39. These things must be done sometimes
My Rolex 1680 bezel works the same way- I have to push down on it to turn it. Great update on the P39. You answered a lot of my concerns and questions. Especially about the width of the clasp. (And glad you fixed the audio on your first edit.) Can't wait to get my hands on one. I've been on a couple of AD lists since the day the P39 was announced...still waiting.
Glad to hear it was helpful! Good luck! I’m sure they’ll be pumping it out as fast as they can
Glad this one’s back up! Cheers on another good one. P39 is very intriguing.
Appreciate it!
Keep doing what you're doing man you're so much better than most at taking about watches
Appreciate you saying that!
2:50 I agree that it's a minor point, but having a nice big range or adjustment is extremely handy when you have a girlfriend who also likes dive watches.
Great review and glad you love it , great watch indeed . Picked mine up from my AD Thursday, they had only received two pieces since the day of release which is quite bonkers . Just to add my bezel is fantastic, it’s has a Rolex quality to the rotation and click. It’s a faultless beautiful watch which will be worn and scratched with pride . A great tool watch in my opinion . Just to add the bezel insert does look fantastic, grey then black as you move the watch and to be honest I haven’t noticed the dial being sunburst , just a lovely black .
Good solid review. I think the bracelet adjusts so much because its a dive watch....wet suit
I just got my Pelagos 39 yesterday from the AD, so thank you very much for the insights and what to expect in the next two months!
Hopefully you don't have the same number of scratches, but enjoy!
Great video. This has pushed me over the edge and I’m gonna pull the trigger. I do love how you ran straight into the road while filming your watch….they’ll stop😅
The one thing which I feel Tudor is not telling people and arguably why should they! Is that Titanium grade 2 is a very very soft material! One drop and its hello dent! The same cannot be said for grade 5 tiatanium as well as stainless steel! I have worked in the aeronautical engineering side of things for nearly 30 years now and while I do like Tudor and own the GMT I will never buy the Pelagos or the FXD. Good video thought thanks.
My Tudor black bay chrono clasp sits perfectly centered underside of my wrist and it's amazing. My first watch that's been that perfect and comfortable. I don't even notice it. Impressive.
Another excellent video. Your content is consistent and welcomed. Keep it up my man!
I picked this up right before Christmas. Got the call from my AD. I love it. My bezel action was sticky at first. But I just kept working it. I heard that when they are newer that stickiness can occur.
FWIW, people that come here with a sticky bezel, once I got it worked out, I no longer have to push down to turn it. There is a catch mechanism at the 12 to help lock it in to avoid play, I assume. But now the thing clicks like a dream. My wife thinks I’m a weirdo bc she’ll randomly see/hear me turning the bezel lol
It’s a great bedtime watch too. I hit mine with an LED MiniMag before I turn out the lights. Same for my BB58
Ahh smart! Very cool idea
I never let my watches get polished, because then I have to apply the scratches all over again… And it begins the moment you wear the watch.
Fair point!
Great review! I absolutely love Titanium watches, I own five of them. The Pelagos has been on my Radar screen now for quite awhile and will be my next purchase.
I'm not very rough with my watches so scratches aren't really a problem. I've never had to remove any.
So glad this video popped up on my feed. Wasn’t aware of your channel. Great review!
Welcome aboard! Glad you enjoyed the video!
It’s not the whole bezel falling off that’s the most concerning, it’s the inlaid white numerals within the bezel insert falling out that’s most common from what I’ve seen online.
Never heard of that. I'll look out if I see it
I saw one of these in person as an exhibition in a Tudor. Love it
Tip from a Swiss: just put WD40 spray... and your bezel will turn like butter..😊
excellent review! I just picked one up based on this review. It harkens back to the days before rolex went ostentatious with its tool watches. This is a re-make of the classic 1970's Subs, with all the modern tech of today. I have a Sinn too, and it is pretty much scratch proof, but lacks the elegance of the Tudor. And I believe that you can rebrush titanium to get the scratches out.
You can rebrush it. I'll make another video about that. Good luck and enjoy! I agree with your sentiments obviously!
@@HarrisonElmore Thank you, I will keep my eye out for it!
During the lock down my bezel came off. If you come off you're not pouring it back on-period. There are ceramic bell bearings and springs and when it comes off poof! They gone
My wrist is 6 and some change but I’m going to buy this tomorrow
Audio is all fixed up. Apologies for those who had to listen to my shoddy audio layering work!
Great video. I recently picked up an Explorer II 16570 (from 2004) and having that watch really does make you want to have a sub style pick to complement it. This would be a fantastic candidate…
Very nice! This is my compliment to my 16570. I think I would agree, but I'm biased.
Scotch Brite Gray Ultra Fine cleans up the titanium easily. I've cleaned my pelagos couple times
I'll give it a shot!
Top of my list now. Light, very sleek and classy, "affordable ", at least compared to Rolex for example... great option
thanks and thats what we need from youtube not spending 10 mins reading out the specs from official webpage.
hahaha but what if I read them much better than the website?
9:40 there is a horrible "bite" in the zero on the 20 indicator bezel number 😦
Great review! Holding out for the (hopefully 2023) release of a blue version.
I'm sure more colors are in the works!
@@HarrisonElmore Yep, just a matter of how long we’ll need to wait. I’m guessing you’d prefer the black regardless?
Awesome video, keep up the great work. Your videos are honest and content is very informative.
Appreciate it!
Wellllll, I got stainless steel Rolex's that are 50-60 years old, unpolished and they look great with scratches and all. If it was titanium, would they look as good?? I doubt it very much, because of that I think titanium watches will not hold value as well as stainless steel, that's why I avoid them. I don't like the light feeling either as it feels cheaper. I always thought the weight of something is a sign of quality, that feeling will not go away.
Sounds like you’re not a fan, which is totally fair. Stainless has a lot of advantages!
Love the content !! Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful!
You seem to be very eloquent with words. Good job on clarity.
Precious follow up. Touching upon subject like the bezel which has to be held down before turning - I hadn't heared about that until I watched your video.
Excellent review. You explain the issues well. The bezel and dial have been a somewhat polarising issue in reviews that I’ve seen. Subjective issue. You view is the most balanced. I love this watch. Wasn’t able to get one recently in our local Tudor store. I ended up going with the reverse chrono which I’m loving but will likely get the Pelagos 39when availability is better.
I appreciate you saying that. I try to see both sides of the arguments that people have on different watches. Enjoy the reverse panda. That's a nice piece!
I agree 100% man. And I envy how well versed you are for this ! But I finally found someone who messes up his bracelets faster than me 😂
I try my best on these videos! Not sure if I should be happy about that! I definitely wore this in faster than most others I've bought
This is a great follow up video. I particularly enjoyed the bezel and light play discussion, as well as showing the "ghost" bezel look in the video. I absolutely loved this on my now 7" (was slightly bigger) wrist. I find the BB58 borderline small. Maybe it's the bezel being almost 40 that does it, but that and the lightness really gives it a vintage Sub feel on wrist. I was fortunate enough to try on a vintage Sub only a couple weeks after trying the P39 and was surprised at how similar they feel. Obviously the Tudor has a much more solid build quality than those old Rolex bracelets though. I really would love a blue version with those bezel characteristics and the same more tempered blue from the FXD. That would make me snap and text my AD.
Thanks! I agree they do feel familiar. A blue one I assume is on its way!
I love mine. I certainly don’t have to press the bezel down to rotate it. It actually rotates very easily. I do think the hour plots could be bigger of middle and back of the hands white just to fill the black space more. I don’t think the divers extension is needed on this watch. I think very few will buy this to dive.
Nice review.
Thanks! That’s good to know it’s not every bezel that requires the slightly different method
@@HarrisonElmore odd though!
@@HarrisonElmore Yeah, I have the BB58 and no issues with the bezel, no need to press down.
@@travisharrisphotography glad to hear it. Maybe it’s model specific if there are issues
As with titanium bikes, wear the scratches with pride and never hide.
Never got why Tudor use only grade 2. It’s true that grade 5 is slightly more prone to salt water corrosion that grade 2, but why not use grade 7 or 9? For me that makes it a no.
I think it's a cost thing. I haven't researched extensively, but I believe grade 2 is more readily available. Plus they probably want to leave Grade 5 for marketing expensive Rolex watches as a differentiator.
@@HarrisonElmore if Breitling and Longines can use it, so can Tudor. It’s used in many, much cheaper watches than the Pelagos. You’re most certainly right tho, it is mainly a cost thing: keeping costs down to maximise profits.
Working man hands! I can relate. Great video and I can't wait to get my Pelagos 39!
Good luck!
Well, the nice thing is that you can take 5-min with the green side of a dish sponge and remove most all the scratches on grade 2 titanium. :-) Unlike anything that is SS.
I’ll be checking that out!
The clasp extension is supposed to be for wearing the watch OVER a wetsuit not for swelling wrists. That said - who actually goes diving or wears a wetsuit? Not many buyers of this watch.
Pelagos 39 has both the dive extension and the t-fit glide extension - the former for wearing over a wetsuit and the latter for swelling wrists.
Please, someone explain to the kid what is neoprene wetsuit with neoprene sleeves and how it relates to divers extension. 😂
Scratches are things that just don’t bother you after a few years. I’ve got a Breitling Aerospace that’s been all over the world and is beat to shit. The scratches actually look pretty cool and build up a patina. You don’t see scratched watches online. Why? People are terrified of losing value and baby their watches. If this stuff bothers you go buy a swatch. And forget watches what about sports cars? They cost way more and get beat up in no time. Don’t sweat the small stuff dudes. Get them worn.
Does it make you want a Sub at all? I’m quite conflicted on this now more than ever.
Not at all, honestly, and I wanted a sub before this
I expect my watches to scratch. That's how it's supposed to be 👍 But how bulletproof are these movements? I'm to be honest not that hugely into the idea of luxury watches, but this one tempts me. However, I would have be to quite certain that it would take anything I'd throw at it. If I'm spending this much, I don't want to feel like I have to use my Promaster instead when going back country skiing etc. Then I might as well keep the Promaster as the main watch. Thing is though, I don't feel quite confident enough on the toughness of mechanical movements. (And I don't want to pay $5k or so just to find out) I'd feel much more comfortable splurging on a "one/final watch" if I knew it could take anything. A GS 9F would probably make me confident in that. But they have no models with the design and features such as this Pelagos. Would love to hear from someone who really, really put it through its paces, what that was, and whether it could take it or not. But maybe I'm delusional for hoping that a mechanical watch can be treated harshly like a true hardcore sports-watch.
There should be way more long term, real world reviews of watches - especially hype beasts like this 👏
I agree. I try to do that when I can, but I can only own so many for so long.
Wish they’d kept the same bezel knurling as the 42mm
Great review. I appreciate hearing your longer term thoughts. I was really excited for this one, but trying it on in the store and comparing to my BB58, I was underwhelmed. I wish they kept the old recessed indices from the larger Pelagos, or added some kind of frame around them to give the dial a bit more depth and detail. It's a cool watch and a decent value for what it is, but I think they could have done better here.
Ironically San Martin did a 39mm Pelegos homage bit with the 42mm dial details and on the fly adjustment clasp. $240 wears like waay more expensive. They've done this with a few seiko homages improvements on the original
Great video, Harrison Elmore.
If you could go back in time, would you make the same purchase ?
I am considering adding this to my collection
Adjustable clasp is a diver’s adjustment
Not for wrist swelling
All watches scratch. G Shocks the way for you to go.
Damn, can’t wait. Been on a few waiting lists for it here in London, looks like it is going to take a while. Hopefully not Rolex time, not sure I want to wait 1+ year for it.
Really? Well, at least it gives me some time to save up for the blue version...
Yeah I doubt it'll be that long! Good luck!
I find weight to be one of the most important things with a diver, I wear PAMs and the reason my daily is such a great watch is that is actually Ti. A lot is personal preference I did have the Blue Pelagos and it was a great watch. cheers
I agree completely. Light is a key part for me now in what I look for. I loved the old pelages, but this is just right up my alley
I have a 42 blue Pelagos and I also think it’s the perfect dive watch. I have had a few and this one is a keeper
Nice! Enjoy!
@@HarrisonElmore happy you are enjoying yours :)
Yes i need a tudor when i am running my marathon.
Really enjoyed the video
Does this watch comes with a "rubber belt?"
And what is the price ?
Oh man, my 16800 is older than that Exp, but looks better. Mine has 0 scratches on the case, only a few marks on the clasp. Yes, I pamper all my watches regardless the price tag.
Absolutely agree regarding the bezel.
Why didn't Tudor go with Grade 5 Ti if it's more scratch resistant than Steel??
This is one of the most useful reviews I've seen in a long time. I'm glad I saw this, my dad recently got the OG 42mm Pelagos and I was thinking maybe I'd like the 39 but I was hesitant on the g2 Ti and yeah it scratches just as much as I thought but what I didn't think about was the length of the clasp. My BB36 has that same issue, so this is a hard pass. 37mm Spirit remains the next watch for now.
i bought the first tudor pelagos with in-house movement and sold it after a year. it was a scratch magnet. they could learn a thing or two about surface treatment from seiko or citizen
Fair enough! It would be great with some surface treatment though
@@edrader sinn smash it out the park with their tegimented cases.
@@tennistron588 i owned many sinns before they got expensive and i bought a 104 ST a few years ago. but i love titanium watches and i've owned many. the pelagos was a disappointment because it was so soft
The scratches are a deal breaker. They need to use hardened titanium.
Great video man, I love that you don't baby your watches!
Appreciate it! I'll be seeing your Explorer Video soon!
@@HarrisonElmore Thank you brother!
Great job capturing the ghosting bezel.
Hopefully this style becomes a Tudor staple, like Rolex and the Sub. My worry with Tudor pieces, as you alluded to, is there’s always ‘the next thing’ at the moment. The BB Pro felt a bit out of date as soon as this dropped. Styles aren’t getting much time to settle into the range. Maybe this is Tudor just having a bit of a re-set and things will settle for a couple of years now, bar some colour/material changes.
I tried! Glad it came through. I think Tudor will keep doing what they're doing and rotating through watches and styles, discontinuing the stuff that doesn't work. I'd imagine in the end, their goal is to have a catalog like Omega where there's something for everyone. Then Rolex can keep to the core models while Tudor can play the everything is available game. Just a hunch based on the current rate of releases and how well that's working for them.
The BBPand the Pelagos are two different Watch styles with two significant features. You don’t buy a BBP if you want a diver lol. How could it be out of date when the Pelagos dropped?
Any owner comments on the sharpness of the bracelet and clasp? Multiple owners saying it's like wearing razor blades on wrist but others seem to not have any issues.
I agree that it’s pretty much a perfect dial layout. Would buy it if I didn’t have my BB58 black which I love. Maybe I will swap eventually, who knows.
Yeah. It's hard because there's always another watch out there to just stop while you're ahead. Good luck!
This is very helpful. Appreciated.
Anytime!
Great review on the 39 once again! I'm currently on my AD's waitlist for this watch. I'm hopeful to get that call in the next few months! Looks great on your wrist, what is your wrist size? I'm a skinny wrist myself haha.
Glad it was helpful! Good luck! I've got 6.75" wrists which is about average I think.
Great video with real life examples!
Glad you liked it!
I was waiting for this👍
Hopefully they have updated the lune plots on the bezel and no more falling off.
Also how is the lune on the hands compared to the indices, people say its weaker on the hands?
It's about the same, but yes a tad weaker, which I would expect since they're way thinner than the ceramic lime block indices
Nice watch looking for a zodiac super sea wolf and then a black bay all black.
2 months? That clasp looks like it's been worn for 20 years. How did you scratch it so much? The ghosting bezel in light is one of the coolest things about this watch. Not of fan of the bezel overhanging the case though. I'm undecided on this watch, I guess I need to see it in person.
He wears this like a "beater" watch. He mentions in his initial review of the watch that he wears it while jogging, working, etc. So basically he is wearing the Pelagos 39 like a G-Shock, so the wear is definitely going to show. Most of us will be desk diving with the Pelagos 39 so the scratches will be minimal.
I’m with you, I love mine, only thing that would make it better for me is a date, love the Titanium weight, sometimes I even feel like i dont have it on, due to its weight it’s doesn’t fall off the wrist either like a steel watch. 9.5/10👍
Completely agree. The date would be very functional
Excellent review 👏
Singular for "indeces" is "index".
Bro, the adjustable strap is for use with a DIVE SUIT!!!!! Its not meant for a wrist that has ballooned from a marathon.. Do u wear basketball shoes while playing football? Its a tool watch for diving, NOT running! If u use it for how its intended, u will enjoy it more...
Would you spend $£€¥ on a watch & then use your 'G ' for jogging, tennis , diving, ... ?
@@jaysterling26 The point of my statement is that the "BIG EXTENSION is a waste unless u just ran a marathon"!!Statement is ignorant, Its a DIVER! It has that MASSIVE EXTENSION to go over a dive suit brainiacs.. Do u wear football cleats on a basketball court???
There's a dive extension on the bracelet in addition to the on-the-fly T-Fit adjustment.
Good luck selling either of those two now!
The press down on bezel is somewhat BS. My BB58 doesnt need to press down and its one of the best bezel action out there.
Amazing first watch though , longines catalogue seems bland too vintage . Buying a longines is like buying what you can afford and justifying it not for me though.