Game is going in the correct direction but I think the game needs more lore and flavor to the world. I understand its player driven but there needs to be some more flavor to the world, also something to help PvE focused players.
@@rubenibarruri6083 1k pop for a game like this is fine. that's $15,000 a month for the company to work with. That's about the population of a WoW classic server. A game dies when it is no longer online.
I remember Eve . At release a few hundred players. Then slowly and steadily growing. People were happy when new features came. Waited 4 years for tc in that game and no complaints. But customers nowadays want a "finished" feature complete product for ( supposedly) free. Kids! 😅
@@KingKabila the reaction people are having to dark and darker's free to play proves this. Free to play games that prey on whales have ruined people's expectations. Now just having a subscription to a MMO sounds insane to some.
@@hex6879 The issue with D&D's free to play is that their player base had to pay to play. And now new people don't have to. It only makes sense they would feel cheated.
Game has potential but I don't wanna hear that the hours being a thing of judgement is pointless from me new never played I loved this game at first... Left great review long ago. Today it's still not worth sub even after the many updates IMHO but that's me
I agree with people with 1000 hours. I like the game but I can't stop myself criticize it because of its problems. I would not recommend it for anyone except crazy peoples xD.
I actually think those negative 1000+ hours reviews are absolutely valid. You know that NOONE can grasp the games problems without putting in HOURS. The biggest problem areas are general gamedesign, support and a culture of telling everything is rainbows and sunshine when the game is actually cheater/exploiter/RMT infested. Gamedesign falls flat because the "full loot hardcore" stuff needs a little more thought than it has been given until now. The freedom to ally with anyone is counterproductive since it only leads to zergs being diplomatic with each other and working together to gatekeep about 100% of content from anyone not willing to join in on that crap. Zergs need to be pushed against each other, its ESSENTIAL for a games like that. The reputation system might as well just not exist at all since its 100% useless and doesnt do its ONE JOB which is bringing people together by being on the side of certain empires or being bandits in certain empires. The crafting needs to be looked at. With HoT food, passive regeneration, massive healing potions,reflect potions, magic res potions, pipes,22% more (whatever)dmg and 100% slashing resist with Oghmium armor there is too much of a power-creep going on. Some people are pretty much unkillable if you dont go at them 1v3. Every class devolves into a heavy armored sack of lard since Armor is king in this game. Im not going into mounted builds at all, since I think they should be outright removed. No MA, no MM, no MC, instant dismount when hit once, just screw this mess. A heavy armored necromancer lancer footfighter with risen pets is not a build, its a dumb jack-of-all-trades and shouldnt be effective at all. Yet Henrik talks about Boats and about how some people are telling him "Oh its the best fishing game out there" (maybe in 1999 lol) or "best crafting game" (noone who is realistic would tell him any of that, lets be real for a sec) In reality the game needs essential work done. And NO, if a giant thursar closes the gap to my skeletal max speed sheevra ON FOOT, i should not be pressed to "provide video evidence". ( It was a content creator) What are the GMs even there for if they obviously dont have the tools to check for cheaters and most of the time dont understand BASIC GAME MECHANICS? How is anyone going to explain exploits to people, who dont know the first thing about the game ... in 200 LETTERS????! Also SV should start giving out complete patch notes. The ninja nerfs/buffs/balancing stuff is crap. Do they expect players to buy another max stat trinket to test out new soft/hard caps? Last patch my sheevra got one more point in speed. Why? Dont know. Does this appear in any patch notes? No. How can you expect players to give valid feedback if you dont tell them what you changed? And just checked the steam page. 5 times the same positive review from 5 different accounts. Yay someone favored a guildleader and now they are rewarding SV for it LOL
So, lemme tell you why people don't like the subscription model: 1) This game takes a lot of patience and is excruciatingly slow to most modern gamers. No one wants to pay a sub for things that are a massive time sink. They want to do that casually. People tend to want to maximize their time for a subscription. That's very unpredictable in Mortal. Whether or not it helps SV or the game itself seems debatable after 2 years after release they drop the sub. Which leads to the next issue: 2) The same reason people hate new magics or pets: they get used to it being in a "full release" state, but then obviously in an alpha-testing state. The game was in full release before pets even got pathing around houses, so you can expect that after two years, a lot of people may not even see much difference. For example: a player who's not in a guild at all, and doesn't want one. What changed for them when the sub came out? Only TC-affected, guild-based players saw a dramatic difference at the time. 3) A lot people felt that when the sub dropped, there had to no longer be sloppy execution. Polishing the game is still years away, despite the sub dropping. Even the new Haven has an extremely wonky appearance to a player who doesn't have what I would call "mortal eyes." As to say, mobs leash unexpectedly, and have wonky pathing, bad animation, a very uniform, effortless sort of aesthetic (they're all just default ass randomized characters in the same-looking armor etc) 4) Negative reviews affect players who haven't tried it. If you want positive reviews, you will have to offer at least some sort of free-to-play. I have 2k on my main acct, had probably 1k on a secondary at one point. I've left it a positive review, but I did so with EXTREME reluctancy. The problem is that Mortal isn't actually a very good game. It just is the only thing that has the hope of being one anytime soon that I can actually play now. Idk why you have an issue with that. That's like saying "God you've smoked so much crack, but you wouldn't admit that crack is great?"
@@itearsfps I mean, that was a very honest statement. Mortal floats on hopes and dreams. A lot of those hopes and dreams will be bumping heads assuming they ever do productive things. SV's in a tight spot, having been the one to let people pay to alpha test their "full release" game that's constantly getting fundamental changes lol. Mortal is at least definitively NOT vaporware, ya know? but... as Pax Dei and Ashes loom around the corner... it's in a darker spot than usual.
The reason people have all these hours and negative reviews is because Henrik is so good at keeping people waiting for that next big "fix" that never comes, and it slowly becomes more and more clear that SV has no clue what they are doing or how to fix their game.
Reviewing this game is pointless for me. It is so niche that even though I may play a lot(7k+), I don't have much good to say about it. I'll let SV sink or swim on how others perceive it; I don't want to doom or sell the dream that expands faster than it's executed. Just give me card/board games so I can gamble. That would finally give me a reason to play besides mortal chores when the boys aren't on. Well, I guess I could go gank noobs, but I don't want to play that way. Oh mortal, my most toxic relationship, you need more sand in the sandbox. If everyone is set on Zerg play, then break the world into factions so everyone can be a Zerg, contributing in their own way at their own pace, without having to lick boots. It could make TC a community thing, not just a guild thing.
Today my horse got stuck in invisible quicksand while getting chased by enemies. Edit* This game is fun but has very clear problems with polish. I've had over 1000g of loot despawn right in front of my face 1 minute after dying for no reason lol. that's just not something that leaves me wanting more. This game is both fun as hell and a buggy mess.
@@joeyhoser for a dead game it still creates far better and more interesting content than anything else on the market. I’d rather do this with 1400 people than the same soulless endgame grinds that stuff like ESO and New world offer with 10x or more of the pop
@@ccdee89 I like how you just said the highest peak in awhile is 1395 and then in the next post pretended there are 1400 people playing all the time. Ask yourself why there is about 1000 who've played Mortal for a decade and basically nobody has joined the community since. Spoiler: the community is textbook example of toxicity in gaming, and the game is basically unplayable to anyone who doesn't already have hundreds of hours of practice and combat training, and is in one of the 5-6 guilds that can do anything.
@@joeyhoser compared to your comment where you suggest there are only 600 people playing at any time? If you want to jump in and be on the same level as a veteran player with 1000s of hours, maybe Call of Duty is more up to your speed? At least in this it's a matter of skill more than gear.
i mean people can still git gud even when their skill is limited to cap 60, but nooooo. you have to pay in order to play the game, not even bother limiting skills like back in MO1
Lol this is the biggest fanboi video you've ever made @Wolfszeit. Every negative review you've shown is valid. If people don't want to write an essay with bulletpoints, that's their right.
I noticed the poke at hours played. I have maybe 2k hours and I will say it's very empty... At least 4hs a day is horse travel time ... Remove up to 4h)per day played for any players.... One way... To a town...
But travel is meaningful. It generates content. Imagine a small world with all towns close together and no need to travel for farming and trade. That would not work. Of course if roaming and traveling is not your thing than maybe open world games is maybe not for you. Like some people prefer CoD to Arma. But no one is asking Arma to change.
@@KingKabila If MO2 is deserted and void of content that is the fault of the open world genre...Lol talk about mental gymnastics. It can't be that it's just shitty.
i have like 20-40 euros a month for freetime im kinda poor and cant effort to buy it every month but i would never complain about sub its much better then this stupid in game shops i miss the times where i could play call of duty with friend now u buy this shit for 120euro (some delux editon ) and thehn u get asked if u want a op gun for only 200euros wtf is wrong with the game industry most devs are complete assholse today. Henrik is just a guy who wants to make his dream game they arent the most proffesional game devs but overall they are my favorite devs ever they have nice people on discord i play alots other games and was complaining friendly about some bs in a other games offizial dc i got directlky banned form there discord for complaining about the game lmao the hole game industry is mostly shit atm starfault is one of a few companies who just want to make good games
Remember Feb 22 was with mirror servers. Not advocating for them, but it's very interesting to think about. I'm not gonna listen to this whole vid tho. I feel like I know where it's going. Have fun! Make more content about how they can improve the game. You did propaganda for your guild, you don't need to do it for SV haha.
?what do you have an example or semthing, i can't follow what you mean. I dont get paid by star vault. And no im not on this chanel for guild propaganda, im neutral as possible as i can.
@@WolfszeitYT Hey, i just mean i liked your ‘expose’ videos about rmt, safe spot, etc. I like the vids showcasing patch stuff, too. You said in a vid you were in charge of guild propaganda once. I have a weird disorder where i remember words well. I was saying no need to do an in depth on steam reviews, but it’s your channel. Sorry if it came across harshly.
This game is so addicting the content is there now the pvp is fun and frequent now they have anything you could want for RP as well idk why people hate subscription so bad for a game so addictive with constant updates and new content every montg. I recommend mortal to everyone i talk to
@@KingKabila yeah he lied but they probally needed the money to keep working on the game atleast he didnt bought a sport car with the money XD and used it in a good way
My biggest gripe is one character per account. I hate playing one build forever its too boring to me. Iam not paying 30+ eur a mont for 2 characters or 45 for 3 ?... that is just mental. Its deliberate and fuck anyone accepting that bullshit.
I'm very pleased with the progress and current state of game. SV made my favorite game, bottom line.
I see you are easily amused with shit.
Imagine giving a game that gave you 1000 hours a bad review
Game is going in the correct direction but I think the game needs more lore and flavor to the world. I understand its player driven but there needs to be some more flavor to the world, also something to help PvE focused players.
El juego murió hace mucho. Igual que el mo1
@@rubenibarruri6083 1k pop for a game like this is fine. that's $15,000 a month for the company to work with. That's about the population of a WoW classic server. A game dies when it is no longer online.
I remember Eve . At release a few hundred players. Then slowly and steadily growing. People were happy when new features came. Waited 4 years for tc in that game and no complaints. But customers nowadays want a "finished" feature complete product for ( supposedly) free. Kids! 😅
@@KingKabila the reaction people are having to dark and darker's free to play proves this. Free to play games that prey on whales have ruined people's expectations. Now just having a subscription to a MMO sounds insane to some.
@@hex6879 The issue with D&D's free to play is that their player base had to pay to play. And now new people don't have to. It only makes sense they would feel cheated.
This game is very addictive i wish i could play 3 or 4 hours a day so i could be better 😊
Game has potential but I don't wanna hear that the hours being a thing of judgement is pointless from me new never played I loved this game at first... Left great review long ago. Today it's still not worth sub even after the many updates IMHO but that's me
I agree with people with 1000 hours. I like the game but I can't stop myself criticize it because of its problems. I would not recommend it for anyone except crazy peoples xD.
I actually think those negative 1000+ hours reviews are absolutely valid. You know that NOONE can grasp the games problems without putting in HOURS.
The biggest problem areas are general gamedesign, support and a culture of telling everything is rainbows and sunshine when the game is actually cheater/exploiter/RMT infested.
Gamedesign falls flat because the "full loot hardcore" stuff needs a little more thought than it has been given until now. The freedom to ally with anyone is counterproductive since it only leads to zergs being diplomatic with each other and working together to gatekeep about 100% of content from anyone not willing to join in on that crap.
Zergs need to be pushed against each other, its ESSENTIAL for a games like that. The reputation system might as well just not exist at all since its 100% useless and doesnt do its ONE JOB which is bringing people together by being on the side of certain empires or being bandits in certain empires.
The crafting needs to be looked at. With HoT food, passive regeneration, massive healing potions,reflect potions, magic res potions, pipes,22% more (whatever)dmg and 100% slashing resist with Oghmium armor there is too much of a power-creep going on. Some people are pretty much unkillable if you dont go at them 1v3.
Every class devolves into a heavy armored sack of lard since Armor is king in this game. Im not going into mounted builds at all, since I think they should be outright removed. No MA, no MM, no MC, instant dismount when hit once, just screw this mess. A heavy armored necromancer lancer footfighter with risen pets is not a build, its a dumb jack-of-all-trades and shouldnt be effective at all.
Yet Henrik talks about Boats and about how some people are telling him "Oh its the best fishing game out there" (maybe in 1999 lol) or "best crafting game" (noone who is realistic would tell him any of that, lets be real for a sec)
In reality the game needs essential work done. And NO, if a giant thursar closes the gap to my skeletal max speed sheevra ON FOOT, i should not be pressed to "provide video evidence". ( It was a content creator) What are the GMs even there for if they obviously dont have the tools to check for cheaters and most of the time dont understand BASIC GAME MECHANICS? How is anyone going to explain exploits to people, who dont know the first thing about the game ... in 200 LETTERS????!
Also SV should start giving out complete patch notes. The ninja nerfs/buffs/balancing stuff is crap. Do they expect players to buy another max stat trinket to test out new soft/hard caps? Last patch my sheevra got one more point in speed. Why? Dont know. Does this appear in any patch notes? No. How can you expect players to give valid feedback if you dont tell them what you changed?
And just checked the steam page. 5 times the same positive review from 5 different accounts. Yay someone favored a guildleader and now they are rewarding SV for it LOL
So, lemme tell you why people don't like the subscription model:
1) This game takes a lot of patience and is excruciatingly slow to most modern gamers. No one wants to pay a sub for things that are a massive time sink. They want to do that casually. People tend to want to maximize their time for a subscription. That's very unpredictable in Mortal. Whether or not it helps SV or the game itself seems debatable after 2 years after release they drop the sub. Which leads to the next issue:
2) The same reason people hate new magics or pets: they get used to it being in a "full release" state, but then obviously in an alpha-testing state. The game was in full release before pets even got pathing around houses, so you can expect that after two years, a lot of people may not even see much difference. For example: a player who's not in a guild at all, and doesn't want one. What changed for them when the sub came out? Only TC-affected, guild-based players saw a dramatic difference at the time.
3) A lot people felt that when the sub dropped, there had to no longer be sloppy execution. Polishing the game is still years away, despite the sub dropping. Even the new Haven has an extremely wonky appearance to a player who doesn't have what I would call "mortal eyes." As to say, mobs leash unexpectedly, and have wonky pathing, bad animation, a very uniform, effortless sort of aesthetic (they're all just default ass randomized characters in the same-looking armor etc)
4) Negative reviews affect players who haven't tried it. If you want positive reviews, you will have to offer at least some sort of free-to-play.
I have 2k on my main acct, had probably 1k on a secondary at one point. I've left it a positive review, but I did so with EXTREME reluctancy. The problem is that Mortal isn't actually a very good game. It just is the only thing that has the hope of being one anytime soon that I can actually play now.
Idk why you have an issue with that. That's like saying "God you've smoked so much crack, but you wouldn't admit that crack is great?"
Henrik could give Taur Dogs lasers on the top of their heads and people would still complain about a sub...
some of the positive reviews definitely look like they were bought by starvault lol. 1-4 hours in game, 1 review and no profile picture.
actually gonna drop 2 pos reviews myself. it is the best mmo out there period.
Subscription model in a Sandbox MMO= fewer players = less content = fewer players and so on.
Hmm yet somehow mo2 has grown since subs..
People play this game hoping Henrik will pull it out if his ass. But eventually they realize it won’t happen
For being someone who doesn’t like mortal you seem to be all over the comment section on every video lol
@@itearsfps I mean, that was a very honest statement. Mortal floats on hopes and dreams. A lot of those hopes and dreams will be bumping heads assuming they ever do productive things. SV's in a tight spot, having been the one to let people pay to alpha test their "full release" game that's constantly getting fundamental changes lol.
Mortal is at least definitively NOT vaporware, ya know? but... as Pax Dei and Ashes loom around the corner... it's in a darker spot than usual.
The reason people have all these hours and negative reviews is because Henrik is so good at keeping people waiting for that next big "fix" that never comes, and it slowly becomes more and more clear that SV has no clue what they are doing or how to fix their game.
Reviewing this game is pointless for me. It is so niche that even though I may play a lot(7k+), I don't have much good to say about it. I'll let SV sink or swim on how others perceive it; I don't want to doom or sell the dream that expands faster than it's executed. Just give me card/board games so I can gamble. That would finally give me a reason to play besides mortal chores when the boys aren't on. Well, I guess I could go gank noobs, but I don't want to play that way. Oh mortal, my most toxic relationship, you need more sand in the sandbox. If everyone is set on Zerg play, then break the world into factions so everyone can be a Zerg, contributing in their own way at their own pace, without having to lick boots. It could make TC a community thing, not just a guild thing.
Love the game's system, content, story etc.
Hate the players.
Today my horse got stuck in invisible quicksand while getting chased by enemies.
Edit*
This game is fun but has very clear problems with polish. I've had over 1000g of loot despawn right in front of my face 1 minute after dying for no reason lol. that's just not something that leaves me wanting more. This game is both fun as hell and a buggy mess.
598 people in game right now. Maybe the negative reviews from experienced players have some merit.
1395 were online during prime time, the highest peak in awhile. Maybe the positive views from experienced players have some merit.
@@ccdee89 Both numbers are pitiful and for an MMO, means it's a dead game.
@@joeyhoser for a dead game it still creates far better and more interesting content than anything else on the market. I’d rather do this with 1400 people than the same soulless endgame grinds that stuff like ESO and New world offer with 10x or more of the pop
@@ccdee89 I like how you just said the highest peak in awhile is 1395 and then in the next post pretended there are 1400 people playing all the time.
Ask yourself why there is about 1000 who've played Mortal for a decade and basically nobody has joined the community since.
Spoiler: the community is textbook example of toxicity in gaming, and the game is basically unplayable to anyone who doesn't already have hundreds of hours of practice and combat training, and is in one of the 5-6 guilds that can do anything.
@@joeyhoser compared to your comment where you suggest there are only 600 people playing at any time?
If you want to jump in and be on the same level as a veteran player with 1000s of hours, maybe Call of Duty is more up to your speed? At least in this it's a matter of skill more than gear.
i have negative review with 5k hours
holy 5k where is the biggest problem with the game in your opinion?
@@WolfszeitYT dynamic content probably
So what was so good about this game that it kept you coming back for 5000 hours??
@@jordancharm6780 social aspect and hope game would be better i guess, i havent been playing for 2 months
i mean people can still git gud even when their skill is limited to cap 60, but nooooo. you have to pay in order to play the game, not even bother limiting skills like back in MO1
Lol this is the biggest fanboi video you've ever made @Wolfszeit. Every negative review you've shown is valid. If people don't want to write an essay with bulletpoints, that's their right.
I didnt said that there are not valid xD
@@WolfszeitYT ua-cam.com/video/aIWai4acAhw/v-deo.html
I noticed the poke at hours played. I have maybe 2k hours and I will say it's very empty... At least 4hs a day is horse travel time ... Remove up to 4h)per day played for any players.... One way... To a town...
But travel is meaningful. It generates content. Imagine a small world with all towns close together and no need to travel for farming and trade. That would not work. Of course if roaming and traveling is not your thing than maybe open world games is maybe not for you. Like some people prefer CoD to Arma. But no one is asking Arma to change.
@@KingKabila I play open world games. I also know it is content sure with alot of emptiness...
@@KingKabila If MO2 is deserted and void of content that is the fault of the open world genre...Lol talk about mental gymnastics. It can't be that it's just shitty.
I feel you man, wish it was same size as mo1
The ones bitching about the subscription are the unemployed and children lol.
What a hot take from an idiot.
i have like 20-40 euros a month for freetime im kinda poor and cant effort to buy it every month but i would never complain about sub its much better then this stupid in game shops i miss the times where i could play call of duty with friend now u buy this shit for 120euro (some delux editon ) and thehn u get asked if u want a op gun for only 200euros wtf is wrong with the game industry most devs are complete assholse today.
Henrik is just a guy who wants to make his dream game they arent the most proffesional game devs but overall they are my favorite devs ever they have nice people on discord i play alots other games and was complaining friendly about some bs in a other games offizial dc i got directlky banned form there discord for complaining about the game lmao the hole game industry is mostly shit atm starfault is one of a few companies who just want to make good games
Remember Feb 22 was with mirror servers. Not advocating for them, but it's very interesting to think about. I'm not gonna listen to this whole vid tho. I feel like I know where it's going.
Have fun! Make more content about how they can improve the game. You did propaganda for your guild, you don't need to do it for SV haha.
?what do you have an example or semthing, i can't follow what you mean. I dont get paid by star vault. And no im not on this chanel for guild propaganda, im neutral as possible as i can.
@@WolfszeitYT Hey, i just mean i liked your ‘expose’ videos about rmt, safe spot, etc. I like the vids showcasing patch stuff, too.
You said in a vid you were in charge of guild propaganda once. I have a weird disorder where i remember words well. I was saying no need to do an in depth on steam reviews, but it’s your channel. Sorry if it came across harshly.
@@MaltieHouse Everything alright xD yeah with that youre right. But stuff like this was the past.
This game is so addicting the content is there now the pvp is fun and frequent now they have anything you could want for RP as well idk why people hate subscription so bad for a game so addictive with constant updates and new content every montg. I recommend mortal to everyone i talk to
Well, not everyone but I see ex- eve online addicts liking it.
Alot of tarkov addicts also like it I've noticed and ultima addicts as well lol
I left bad reviews on many accounts, that was at launch and Henrik deserved every word.
Yea. The biggest part of me loves him though. Toxic relationship 😅
@@KingKabila yeah he lied but they probally needed the money to keep working on the game atleast he didnt bought a sport car with the money XD and used it in a good way
My biggest gripe is one character per account. I hate playing one build forever its too boring to me. Iam not paying 30+ eur a mont for 2 characters or 45 for 3 ?... that is just mental. Its deliberate and fuck anyone accepting that bullshit.
its 2 actually 2 charecters per account.
2 characters per account now
@@SLCLN oh fucking finally !!!
never!