My biggest beef with Conan was popping into a limited population world full of murder hobos lol. I actually really liked the MMO and wish they kept more of those systems. But the combat and building to this day is pretty awesome
It's the game I'm most looking forward to. The graphics aren't exactly high-end, but the gameplay looks pretty deep and it has the lore behind it as it's biggest seller.
thanks keep nothing wrong for building hype for a mmo. Last good mmo was elder scrolls online. I hardly play new world just to war log i don't consider it a good mmo unless they fix it. But this looks promising. Hope you can clan up in the big pvp zone.
@@CaffeinatedDad yeah ofc, never know till we get the product in our hand finished. Good news is they are not new devs and using a good engine. Unlike new world.
I can't quite follow your argument around the classes... maybe I'm just dense... So, you say you see two possible approaches - one being that your initial choice at character creation gives you your base class - and later in the game you can mix and match, by learning abilities from the other classes. But your initially chosen base class, gives you some stuff that's exclusive to that class - and you can only ever get the exclusive stuff of one class - namely the one you picked at the start. The other approach - which you deem more likely, and more fitting for a sandbox type game - being that there are no classes, but that what you pick at character creation just gives you your starter abilities - and afterwards every player can learn everything, mixing and matching all the possibilities, no exclusives that you are locked out of. You also say, that this approach would allow for more diversity and more possible builds and combinations for players to create. So far, I can follow. I not only understand what you mean, I fully agree with it. I see both approaches being possible, I agree that the second approach would be more sandbox-style and allow for more possible builds and build creativity. I don't know if the second option is the more likely one to be chosen by the devs... I'd have to read up more on what the devs are planning to tell... but yeah, maybe. But then you say, you prefer the first option because of uniqueness. And that's where you lost me. Because, if the second option allows for more build diversity, more different builds and more build creativity... then obviously that's what's gonna result in more unique characters. Like, everyone can be unique. With the first option, you see a mentat and you know - them being a mentat - they are guaranteed to have that set of exclusive abilities, because every mentat has those. So, every player falls into one of 4 base categories - i.e. classes. So... less unique then. With the second approach, you see player - and they have no class. They are no "mentat" or "swordmaster" - but they could have any skill, any wild combination of class abilities - allowing for far more unique character builds, than a mentat being a mentat... So... I have to guess now... but is it possible, that - when you say you want "uniqueness", you don't mean actual uniqueness - but rather what you mean is you want to distinctive classes to exist? Like you want a mentat to be different to a swordmaster - as in, less uniqueness, more defining features. So that that choice at the very start actually locks you into something, that then defines you for the rest of the game? Because, you do seem to agree that the first approach leads to less unique builds than the second approach... so, what you actually want, is "distinctiveness" for the classes?
well there are different types of mmos, realistically all an mmo is, is a game with a bazillion players in 1 server/world/shard of servers. Conan exiles was never marketed as an MMO by funcom, this game is, this games goal is to have thousands together in one world, this game wont be the normal themepark type of mmo like wow
Are you planning to read just Frank Herbert's 6 novels? or are you planning on all books written on the Dune universe? I ask because there's a lot of reading after Frank Herbert novels.
40 players per server. This is not going to be an MMO. It's going to be near identical to conan exiles, with the addition of some more modern systems and vehicles. You heard it here first.
40 players per server, oh no not this argument again. also the same dude that made both games continuously has to explain to people in the discord that the games will be quite different lol. also I did not here it here first, lots of trolls in the discord server have said this exact same thing. first of all the 40 players per server thing was back when they were first starting their tests, and since the world is made up of multiple servers, one server is like an average sized city, meaning the 40 players per server is 40 players in a city, the goal for cities is a few hundred, while the goal for the deep desert is at least a thousand. the game is an mmo, youre not smarter than the devs
@@csahaas I'm calling it ! I'd love a bigger experience with cell hosted servers, like Mortal Online 2 or Star Citizen. 1000's of players in the same world, but I don't know if funcom can deliver that. We'll see in time i guess :)
@@haslammmo9173 There will be a blog on how it works soon but they seem decently confident in their work so far in the discord. for the big open area with up to or more than a thousand people theyre going to use server meshing.
I think there is going to be a Tree for each class. You start with one and you can unlock the others within the world. Then you can mix and match between what you have unlocked in all the trees to make your build. Maybe with your Primary active tree have access to more powerful abilities for that class to make you feel like a swordmaster build vs a trooper build. But still the freedom to swap your primary tree.
As for the lone wolf stuff... I think you should be able to be a part of a guild, of a group of players - log in, and just solo-play for 15 or 30 minutes, and do something - all alone on your own - that does benefit the guild/group. I don't think that solo-play should be exclusive to lone wolf, guild-less characters - but that even the most guild-centric, group-oriented player should have the theoretical possibility of doing something solo on the side.
Hopefully they stay far away from the min max meta bs. Very very balanced so everyone won’t pic the same skills, especially those who are competitive in pvp, because that’ll be the first to exploit. For example.. deep desert, shields attract the worm. Shields protect from gun fire. No shields means snipers and otherwise ranged classes are better in the deep desert, based on what we know about the game thus far, and lore.
If its a lot like Conan Exiles (i hope is not!) were you logout is were you character stays sleeping, characters don't vanish by logging out. So if you're base is attacked in a PVP server they can kill and loot your body while you are defenseless .
I'd rather be able to learn everything, because I think being unique ultimately comes down to how people play a game and use their abilities. I tend to like a power fantasy and find it extremely difficult to find a game without limits that is fun. I'm all for specializing in the beginning, but by endgame I like being able to do whatever I want.
This is funcom avoid it like the playful look how bad they’ve pooched Conan do yourself a favour and save the pain play something else they’ll just ruin your experience and take your money at the same time
Thanks, Jesus, lord and savior. Thank you for being such a great paternalistic leader. I feel so much about your petty feelings and skinny wallet. What would the world do without people, no.....heroes, like you?
I think they will just copy and paste Conan exile system. It works, and gives freedom to adapt builds to the way you want it.
I really need to dive into Conan To get a better idea. I have heard a Mixed bag of Things regarding the game.
My biggest beef with Conan was popping into a limited population world full of murder hobos lol.
I actually really liked the MMO and wish they kept more of those systems.
But the combat and building to this day is pretty awesome
Conan exiles is a buggy cesspool
I cannot wait for this game and your videos help with this long waiting time!!
Glad to hear it! I'm gonna do the best I can to stay current. I'm going as far as to read the dune novels!
It's the game I'm most looking forward to. The graphics aren't exactly high-end, but the gameplay looks pretty deep and it has the lore behind it as it's biggest seller.
The lore is the biggest for me ngl!
It’s unreal engine 5 what you mean
thanks keep nothing wrong for building hype for a mmo. Last good mmo was elder scrolls online. I hardly play new world just to war log i don't consider it a good mmo unless they fix it. But this looks promising. Hope you can clan up in the big pvp zone.
I'm still cautiously optimistic. It could be great... hope it is* let me put it that way
@@CaffeinatedDad yeah ofc, never know till we get the product in our hand finished. Good news is they are not new devs and using a good engine. Unlike new world.
I can't quite follow your argument around the classes... maybe I'm just dense...
So, you say you see two possible approaches - one being that your initial choice at character creation gives you your base class - and later in the game you can mix and match, by learning abilities from the other classes. But your initially chosen base class, gives you some stuff that's exclusive to that class - and you can only ever get the exclusive stuff of one class - namely the one you picked at the start.
The other approach - which you deem more likely, and more fitting for a sandbox type game - being that there are no classes, but that what you pick at character creation just gives you your starter abilities - and afterwards every player can learn everything, mixing and matching all the possibilities, no exclusives that you are locked out of. You also say, that this approach would allow for more diversity and more possible builds and combinations for players to create.
So far, I can follow. I not only understand what you mean, I fully agree with it. I see both approaches being possible, I agree that the second approach would be more sandbox-style and allow for more possible builds and build creativity. I don't know if the second option is the more likely one to be chosen by the devs... I'd have to read up more on what the devs are planning to tell... but yeah, maybe.
But then you say, you prefer the first option because of uniqueness. And that's where you lost me. Because, if the second option allows for more build diversity, more different builds and more build creativity... then obviously that's what's gonna result in more unique characters. Like, everyone can be unique. With the first option, you see a mentat and you know - them being a mentat - they are guaranteed to have that set of exclusive abilities, because every mentat has those. So, every player falls into one of 4 base categories - i.e. classes. So... less unique then. With the second approach, you see player - and they have no class. They are no "mentat" or "swordmaster" - but they could have any skill, any wild combination of class abilities - allowing for far more unique character builds, than a mentat being a mentat...
So... I have to guess now... but is it possible, that - when you say you want "uniqueness", you don't mean actual uniqueness - but rather what you mean is you want to distinctive classes to exist? Like you want a mentat to be different to a swordmaster - as in, less uniqueness, more defining features. So that that choice at the very start actually locks you into something, that then defines you for the rest of the game?
Because, you do seem to agree that the first approach leads to less unique builds than the second approach... so, what you actually want, is "distinctiveness" for the classes?
WoW is an MMO, I don't consider Conan Exiles to be, which is this?
well there are different types of mmos, realistically all an mmo is, is a game with a bazillion players in 1 server/world/shard of servers. Conan exiles was never marketed as an MMO by funcom, this game is, this games goal is to have thousands together in one world, this game wont be the normal themepark type of mmo like wow
@@csahaaskeep drinking that coolaid. This is going to be as much of an mmo as destiny is, with certain multiplayer areas like destiny hubs
@@Joshua-ix4bh ahahahaha. chillax bro, its going to be an actual mmo. and not hub based, youve got the totally wrong idea.
I hope there is a slight chance I can play as a knight for house ecaz. Maybe not at launch but maybe later on
I just want a single player mode. I game to escape from people. I
Are you planning to read just Frank Herbert's 6 novels? or are you planning on all books written on the Dune universe? I ask because there's a lot of reading after Frank Herbert novels.
working my way through them. I think Ill have quite a bit of things to read before the game is released!
40 players per server. This is not going to be an MMO. It's going to be near identical to conan exiles, with the addition of some more modern systems and vehicles. You heard it here first.
40 players per server, oh no not this argument again. also the same dude that made both games continuously has to explain to people in the discord that the games will be quite different lol.
also I did not here it here first, lots of trolls in the discord server have said this exact same thing.
first of all the 40 players per server thing was back when they were first starting their tests, and since the world is made up of multiple servers, one server is like an average sized city, meaning the 40 players per server is 40 players in a city, the goal for cities is a few hundred, while the goal for the deep desert is at least a thousand.
the game is an mmo, youre not smarter than the devs
@@csahaas I'm calling it ! I'd love a bigger experience with cell hosted servers, like Mortal Online 2 or Star Citizen. 1000's of players in the same world, but I don't know if funcom can deliver that. We'll see in time i guess :)
@@haslammmo9173 There will be a blog on how it works soon but they seem decently confident in their work so far in the discord. for the big open area with up to or more than a thousand people theyre going to use server meshing.
@@csahaasyou literally reply to every comment dicksucking the devs holy shit
I think there is going to be a Tree for each class. You start with one and you can unlock the others within the world. Then you can mix and match between what you have unlocked in all the trees to make your build. Maybe with your Primary active tree have access to more powerful abilities for that class to make you feel like a swordmaster build vs a trooper build. But still the freedom to swap your primary tree.
That would make sense! I'm thinking that would be the most sandbox feel to the hame
Hopefully we can talk in game lol
As for the lone wolf stuff... I think you should be able to be a part of a guild, of a group of players - log in, and just solo-play for 15 or 30 minutes, and do something - all alone on your own - that does benefit the guild/group.
I don't think that solo-play should be exclusive to lone wolf, guild-less characters - but that even the most guild-centric, group-oriented player should have the theoretical possibility of doing something solo on the side.
Hopefully they stay far away from the min max meta bs. Very very balanced so everyone won’t pic the same skills, especially those who are competitive in pvp, because that’ll be the first to exploit. For example.. deep desert, shields attract the worm. Shields protect from gun fire. No shields means snipers and otherwise ranged classes are better in the deep desert, based on what we know about the game thus far, and lore.
Really hoping they open this soon! Just started listening to the audiobook tonight, and the story's rather compelling.
I'm reading the book! Thus far it's been really intriguing!
Yep I got home from watching the second movie of dune and saw the first dune awaking vid in my notifications
Can you tell us more about logging out and where we will spawn when coming back to the game?
Right now I don't know that answer. I'd venture a guess it may be like Conan exiles?
If its a lot like Conan Exiles (i hope is not!) were you logout is were you character stays sleeping, characters don't vanish by logging out. So if you're base is attacked in a PVP server they can kill and loot your body while you are defenseless .
Hopefully stealth mechanics!?
Thats much like the SWG Skill Tree
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First comment Win!
I’m a solo player. I want to be the messiah the lisan al gaib and destroy everyone who tries me
Unfortunately this game isnt for you lol, maybe you can become super politcally and economically powerful though, just not a religious messiah.
You lost weight
Careful dude if this game is made by funcom it’s going to suck
funcom is fine
I hope it doesn't, but as a retired conan exiles player, i feel you.
I'd rather be able to learn everything, because I think being unique ultimately comes down to how people play a game and use their abilities. I tend to like a power fantasy and find it extremely difficult to find a game without limits that is fun. I'm all for specializing in the beginning, but by endgame I like being able to do whatever I want.
This is funcom avoid it like the playful look how bad they’ve pooched Conan do yourself a favour and save the pain play something else they’ll just ruin your experience and take your money at the same time
Thanks, Jesus, lord and savior. Thank you for being such a great paternalistic leader. I feel so much about your petty feelings and skinny wallet. What would the world do without people, no.....heroes, like you?
Likely the beginner class will be your Origin Story followed by subclasses for gameplay.