Ultimate Luxury Caravan? The £42k Coachman Lusso 1

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  • @andrewjditton
    @andrewjditton  2 роки тому +14

    What you reckon folks, is it too much to ask of a £42k single axle caravan to have soft-close drawers and a 1900kg chassis? The Adria Adora Isonzo comes on a 1900kg single-axle chassis. Or am I just being too fussy? Remember too that none of us are interested in what something SHOULD be like, I can only review the product that is there in front of me.

    • @jeanne_margaret
      @jeanne_margaret 2 роки тому +1

      Your correct… too much £ and not enough cozy

    • @thomaswatt1658
      @thomaswatt1658 2 роки тому +1

      Definitely a let down on the finer details,

    • @CosyP
      @CosyP 2 роки тому +1

      Totally agree with you. For that price should have soft close drawers and better payload. Definitely not worth anywhere near that price. You’re not too fussy it needs to be practical and for that price give a proper feeling of luxury and comfort which it doesn’t.

    • @davidrostron7224
      @davidrostron7224 2 роки тому

      I don't think it is unreasonable to expect more at that price point. I don't mind a low MTPLM if you can upgrade but that payload is silly.
      For a premium van I don't think it is unreasonable to expect people to want a leisure battery, motor mover, 2nd gas bottle and some personal effects on top. You would have to travel pretty light to get in under the MTPLM.
      There are a lot of vans with silly payloads these days, how much does it really add to the cost of a 40k van to put it on a 1900 or 2000kg chassis? At least then you give people the option to up plate or not. I would be buying a more basic van than this and would still want to see 250kgs of payload.

    • @M..R....
      @M..R.... 2 роки тому

      We bought the Lusso 2 last month with upgraded weight plate (part exed an immaculate 2017 Bailey Jive 570/6 unless we sell it in the mean time) , the acryllic kitchen doors are soft close and the other drawers have "positive catches". I think the Sportage KX4 2.0 CRDi we had would have been at its limits towing it (as well as 20kg under the 100kg max hitch weight) so ended up buying a Santa Fe 2.2 Premium SE BlueDrive to tow it.
      The sales guy mentioned nothing about the shower feature panel not being available so if that was the case it may have been sorted now especially with the 5 month lead time to delivery. One thing I dont think its got is underfloor heating

  • @barryelstone8431
    @barryelstone8431 2 роки тому +13

    We have had a Coachman 675 laser for 3 years now, bought new in 2019 and my experience is the marque is very over rated, the quality is below what I expected for the 31K price. We have had lots of warranty issues some of which still are waiting to be rectified due to poor parts availability.. Would I recommend Coachman I'm afraid not. They look fantastic when being towed and very impressive when you turn up on site but the reputation of being top quality has long gone I wish we would have kept our 2013 Bailey Barcelona.

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому +1

      That's such a pity Barry. Disappointment is never good. Thanks for watching.

    • @jorgerusso8686
      @jorgerusso8686 2 роки тому

      The cabinets remind me of 1980s M F I units cheep and cheerfull

  • @christinegibbins6105
    @christinegibbins6105 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you Andrew and Dougal. Hope you are both well. I have a 2001 Bailey Imperial which cost me £4,350 5 years ago, it does what I need it do. !!

  • @susanbinks8868
    @susanbinks8868 2 роки тому +2

    Hi Andrew lovely to see You & Dougal as always, 1st Class review ,these are one of my favourites you do! Although this Caravan has some nice features, lovely upholstery etc, the fittings eg cupboards & drawers let it down & I agree with you that I've seen better quality in lower priced Caravans. Washroom, lovely shower but the radiator could have been better place! I also love a 2 part Caravan Door. Thank You for sharing & honest opinion on this review. Take Care, Lots of Love to You & Dougal 💖💖💜💜🐾🐾 XX XX

  • @jeanne_margaret
    @jeanne_margaret 2 роки тому +1

    Dougal! I agree with you “no go” lol I don’t understand why they go cheap on the little things because it’s the little things that matter. 💝

  • @muddymarvellous
    @muddymarvellous 2 роки тому +2

    We bought a nearly new Bailey Unicorn valencia 🦄 3 years ago 14k. Worth more than that now . it's kept in a dry barn we use it 6 times a year.
    Can I say £42k is a rediculous price for a white box caravan plus the additional high costs of £30 to £40 pounds a night for a decent pitch..
    .£42k pounds buys us a lot of holidays in 4 🌟 star hotels around the world with flushing toilets I don't have to empty, with guaranteed sunshine and being weighted on, oh did I mention I could run a sporty electric car, help save the planet and not have to run an expensive diesel gas guzzler.
    Caravanning has become over subscribed, costly, toll roads, and the site owners are cashing in without upgrading facilities...Modern electric cars don't tow heavy caravans and no one has a workable sustainable solution...rant over I don't think caravanning has a future, we are currently on the crest of a wave..when the wave hits the shore boom to bust..sorry rant over again I know I'm right and if your honest you will like this post or at least restore my faith and tell me I've got it all wrong

    • @Bunce1949
      @Bunce1949 2 роки тому

      Totally agree! Its aimed at the well heeled who have more money than sense. At the end of the day its camping for goodness sake, and as you say you, you can have a lot of holidays in luxury for £42K.

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому +1

      I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong. But for many people caravanning is about the experience, the freedom, the memories, and the feeling - things that money cannot buy. It's a lifestyle choice for many, but it's no longer necessarily the cheap option, especially if you buy new and stay on full facility sites. Give me a caravan over a Travelodge any day. I really do think caravanning has a great future. Over the decades, caravanning has boomed and busted, and it will continue to evolve and do so, hopefully with less dramatic 'busts' than the like we saw in the 70s and 80s.

  • @carolynandcocohaywood2638
    @carolynandcocohaywood2638 2 роки тому +1

    Very nice but the towel rail next to the toilet, what were they thinking. Hi sweet Dougal, thanks Andrew. Xx

  • @commuterbranchline8132
    @commuterbranchline8132 2 роки тому +2

    A beautiful van with a fantastic specification. My first house cost £26,000, how times have moved on!

  • @yaminthegrey
    @yaminthegrey 2 роки тому +1

    Hari OM
    I agree with Dougal, all style over substance this one! Almost like they are going for the look and feel of a static van over a tourer. Yes, Andrew, the kitchen seemed almost 'cheap' and that payload... well...
    Lovely to see the two of you and hope all is going okay down there... YAM xx

  • @TheChrysler56
    @TheChrysler56 2 роки тому

    Way too much to pay for a single axle caravan especially when you don’t even get soft close draws. I know soft closing draws aren’t that important but blimey! They should come as standard. Not keen on the horrible wash basin in the bathroom either, bring back the decent size Belfast style one. No! It’s not for me. However, I do like the one button operating corner steadies. I’m afraid we’ll be sticking with our 2016 Laser 620 we bought brand new and still enjoy using today. Thanks for taking the time to review though. It’s always nice to see you and Dougal. 🐾

  • @GaetanHobby
    @GaetanHobby 2 роки тому +2

    Hello Andrew 🌞
    Thank you for the review of this beautifull caravan !
    A bit expansive for me lol.😉

  • @johnbraithwaite2462
    @johnbraithwaite2462 2 роки тому

    Hi Andrew, my wife and I agree with the comment made about the washroom basin, Mr Rimmer is right, though we would add that this style of basin is neither use nor ornament, this type of basin is fitted nowadays to lots of different caravans, we don't know why, to wash your hands in these they are too small, we have one in our caravan and if it was not for the warranty we would throw it in rubbish bin and fit a larger more usable basin, we say come on manufacturers, fit things that are more usable and sensible, not just trendy looking trash, older caravans had better basins. Andrew keep up the excellent videos, we find them entertaining and very interesting. J&P

  • @annettefournier9655
    @annettefournier9655 2 роки тому

    Thanks Andrew.

  • @scottwilson5426
    @scottwilson5426 2 роки тому +2

    Another fab vid.. but and Big but its 42k I get that there needs to be a high end van but at that price point for something that will ultimately depreciate drastically in say 3/5 years is questionable. It looks amazing but again we've seen 1/2 the price vans get the wow factor. Sorry a little to rich for my liking.. give me an airstream anyday even if I couldn't afford them either lol. Happy travels!!

  • @karenkouns577
    @karenkouns577 2 роки тому

    Enjoyed the tour and seeing Dougal. Thanks for sharing!

  • @lindahiggins9295
    @lindahiggins9295 2 роки тому

    I think the Lusso is a great looking caravan , coachman make excellent caravans. Hope your well stay safe. x

  • @bland_lover
    @bland_lover 2 роки тому

    Great review Andrew. Many thanks.

  • @DaveDiver1
    @DaveDiver1 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe worth checking if the miro included a battery, because it’s got E&P system fitted van has to be supplied with the battery and should already be in the calculated figure.

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому +1

      Good point Dave! I did check the definition of the Lusso's MRO and it says that it includes 4kg for the mains lead, 10kg for one cylinder of LPG, and fluids in the Alde central heating system. The actual spec mentions nothing about a battery - I'd want to see type and rating if it did - so I think we can assume not. I'm more than happy to be proved wrong if I've made an incorrect call given the info available. Cheers.

    • @DaveDiver1
      @DaveDiver1 2 роки тому

      @@andrewjditton ok thanks for reply, I was taking my experience of a buccaneer, similar system fitted. You can’t even move the van without a battery, as can’t retract legs and that why I thought it may be included.

  • @anneshirley1748
    @anneshirley1748 2 роки тому +1

    Only a little comment tonight! Migraine, a humdinger! Too expensive! Beautiful van but not for me, mind you none of them are but you know what I mean! No soft close drawers?! Oh no! xxx 🥰🐕😘

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому +1

      Oh no Anne, I hope you feel better soon. Migraines are the pits xx

  • @Mads_1313
    @Mads_1313 2 роки тому

    I have to say I preferred the last 1 you did over this 1. I couldn’t get past the bed being next to the cooker! I get that was a pull-out partition, but it looked odd.

  • @katrinaclosier4872
    @katrinaclosier4872 2 роки тому

    Great review Andrew. Not too much to ask for the large chassis and soft close drawers. Manufacturers are cutting back whilst they have full order books.

  • @paula.jackson5463
    @paula.jackson5463 2 роки тому

    This is a Beautiful layout.....towel bar and soft close aside......prefer the split main door and would be so much better on a double axel, but this is just Nice!

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому

      Hi Paul, this is available on a twin axle as the Lusso 2, so you could always check that out. Cheers!

  • @rocklover7437
    @rocklover7437 2 роки тому +1

    You can buy a fully restored 1940,s 50,s Howard Hughes Spartan with modern hidden technology for that price and have a growing investment .

  • @Harlock2day
    @Harlock2day 2 роки тому

    I am not keen on toilet that force visitors to go past your bedroom. I prefer it when the bedroom is left private. Space around the bed is very tight and the issue about the chassis weight capabilitiy is a crazy error from the manufacturer.

  • @hywel3143
    @hywel3143 2 роки тому

    It's an attractive van, especially the lighting and ambiance. However, as you imply Andrew, the payload is surely too low for touring? Viable for use on a seasonal pitch in the UK if you brought extras by solo car maybe? The aircon unit and Alde heating are nice, but maybe Truma 6E without the aircon unit would have been more suitable, and would have released considerable extra payload...

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому +1

      I think you've hit the nail on the head, maybe the low payload is because it's aimed more at the seasonal pitch market. Cheers!

  • @totaltouring829
    @totaltouring829 2 роки тому

    Hi Andrew, Without bemoaning the brand the others commenting all say the same. £££££££. In fact, Coachman have pulled this range Lusso1. Everyone has their limits. Single Axle and all that money … “ Next “,”… Lol.

  • @th30clay18
    @th30clay18 2 роки тому

    Love your reviews Andrew! not sure why they have put a pasta bowl in the washroom instead of basin though?!!

  • @davidmbell
    @davidmbell 2 роки тому

    The caravan for the person that simply has to have everything (note I didn’t say “has to have THE BEST”). Just doesn’t feel special enough for me. Nor homely enough. L shaped lounges do nothing for me and there doesn’t feel like there’s enough separation between kitchen and bedroom. Maybe if they flipped the bed to the other wall (like most other manufacturers do) it’d feel less ‘all in one’. Not for me I’m afraid I’ll stick with my 19 yr old Elddis for now with its 240kg payload.

  • @shahedahmed9737
    @shahedahmed9737 2 роки тому

    Andrew another great video! Thank you. I'd like to see some entry level vehicle if possible and even video on buying used? What to look for and what to avoid? Thank you both

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому

      Cheers Shahed, I did review both the Bailey Discovery and Elddis Xplore over the summer of 2021, so do check these out. I do intend to look at a few second hand vans in the future. Cheers!

  • @Bunce1949
    @Bunce1949 2 роки тому

    Excellent unbiased review as always Andrew, but I wasn't impressed with the Coachman. Right from the first few seconds of the video, did you notice the lousy fit of the door on the gas bottle locker? As viewed from the front the right hand door had totally uneven shut lines. That's poor quality control for that price. The rear double bed is actually 1" narrower than the Bailey Phoenix+ 644 which I've been looking at. The Phoenix is half the Coachmans price! With a very small loading margin an 8ft wide body (great for narrow UK roads) and a huge weight and price, I'm not sure what the appeal is, especially when the Government are frowning on Diesel cars for us to tow with. You'll need a mighty beast to tow this caravan. I wonder how you will tow this when we are all forced to buy an electric car?

  • @nigelwarfield2346
    @nigelwarfield2346 2 роки тому +1

    Could been better designed for the money they are asking and no free delivery at that price. No I wouldn’t by one a big disappointment.
    Take care you two and safe journey to your next destination and keep safe 🙂

  • @momarsden3053
    @momarsden3053 2 роки тому

    Great review Andrew (and Dougal) but heck that's asking alot of hard-earned for what strikes me as an incomplete package compared to some products nearly half the price! 😕

  • @energybrown
    @energybrown 2 роки тому +1

    Way overpriced for what you get...and the fact Dougal agrees speaks volumes! :)

  • @marlajacques6947
    @marlajacques6947 2 роки тому

    Is it made for style and not actually traveling in? Thx for the tour, always nice for a bit of contrast

  • @marksmith6697
    @marksmith6697 2 роки тому

    Unless an 8ft wide van is being stored on-site all year round I believe they're not suitable for UK roads. A collision waiting to happen. What's your thoughts?? Keep up the great work 👍.

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому +1

      Hi Mark, I borrowed an 8ft wide Adria Isonzo during the summer of 2017, and towing it was nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be. That said, it was obviously not as relaxing as towing a narrower caravan and I stuck mostly to motorways. Cheers.

  • @martinkendal2486
    @martinkendal2486 2 роки тому

    Great review thank you. Please would you review the coachman laser 575 xtra ?

  • @trinity006
    @trinity006 2 роки тому +1

    It looks great, but for this money I would rather buy an Adria :D :D

  • @colinmew6695
    @colinmew6695 2 роки тому

    Have just read on the Coachman Owners Club face book page of a guy who bought a Coachman double axle caravan and had a 4 wheel mover fitted and can’t have the spear wheel carrier as mover in the way. Contacted Coachman who said tough. Can you check this out on other double axel vans in future please.

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому

      Oh dear, that doesn't sound good. I'm not on Facebook so it's handy to hear of issues such as this - thanks for letting me know.

    • @M..R....
      @M..R.... 2 роки тому

      Which Coachman as we looked at the Lusso 2 twin axle last month and it had twin mover with spare wheel underneath. The self levelling centre rams can be lowered with the remote to access thw spare without a jack

  • @andrewclarke5051
    @andrewclarke5051 2 роки тому

    Hi I allways enjoy your reviews but I think fore that price amazing not soft closed draws I watch the review off hobby caravan s they were amazing such a sham regarding hobby dealership and problems with hobby caravan insurance in UK take care andy

  • @donalgalvin5838
    @donalgalvin5838 3 місяці тому

    I was in a 2022 Lusso 1 and it did have soft close drawers. Is it possible that was a demo model and wasn’t fully finished ? Great review.

  • @vicdunni
    @vicdunni 2 роки тому

    Fab review ( as always)
    Really don’t rate the Lusso at all, agree very bad there are no soft close drawers. Hate the bed that side near the cooker, looks odd.
    L shape seating isn’t huge and 2 adults could not sit with feet up to watch tv and relax comfortably.
    Bathroom sink not practical, two tone wood ( cupboard doors in bedroom being a diff wood colour) i think looks cheap.
    Payload is awful, no split door, no room when bed pulled out…
    If we had that amount of money to spend on a caravan id a avoid Coachman.

  • @caravaningincarathevan467
    @caravaningincarathevan467 2 роки тому

    Nice but for the price of a decent 2nd hand motorhome I'd want a little more quality fixtures and fittings

  • @soreeyesuk
    @soreeyesuk 2 роки тому

    Is the leisure battery not included in the Miro like the Buccaneers as it is needed to use the caravan levelling as a essential item ?

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому

      Hi David, someone else brought this up so I did check this out in the tech spec of the Lusso, and the battery is not shown as included in the MRO.

  • @stum8374
    @stum8374 2 роки тому

    Hi,my first job on site was put down the legs to signify the START of the holiday,where is the fun not doing it yourself !!! I can get a better caravan for less,42k and 60kg payload do they think we came down in the last shower ?

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому

      I've got to admit Stu, I love doing the steadies too! It was always my job as a kid ;)

  • @garyschneider5781
    @garyschneider5781 2 роки тому

    Disappointing for the price. Too many obvious issues that you quickly noted. Good review.

  • @neilgater2213
    @neilgater2213 2 роки тому

    Unbelievable not having soft close hinges. Even if the use the life time guarantee Blum hinges cost could be absorbed in the purchase price

  • @colinrimmer789
    @colinrimmer789 2 роки тому +1

    The hand basin in the bathroom is one of the cheapest looking mouldings I’ve ever seen in a caravan. I viewed the Lusso at my local dealer and I was less than impressed.

  • @mikediskin3090
    @mikediskin3090 2 роки тому

    Actually, if you took half the LEDs out, it wouldn't look half as impressive. Maybe slightly over the top with them. Also, the sink. We have that sink in our Acadia. Terrible; it's a weird plastic that stains and gets engrained with soap etc, within a few weeks of use. Coachman are a bit like Audi. They trade on their name; but honestly, they run with the herd. Our £30,000 van has no Bluetooth, a parcity of sockets, and no USB sockets!

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому

      Oh crikey, that doesn't sound good Mike. Thanks for letting me know, it's not possible to know these things from a look in a showroom. Cheers.

  • @Harlock2day
    @Harlock2day 2 роки тому

    What about adding people to the weight, you need at least 350 kg for the weight of up to 4 people.

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому

      That's only for vehicles that carry passengers, such as camper vans or motorhomes. No passengers allowed in a caravan, but it does IMHO need a bit more payload for everyone's kit. Thanks for watching!

  • @mick2d2
    @mick2d2 2 роки тому

    Not a very big water tank either at 36 litres! My little Knaus 400 has 45 litres!

    • @M..R....
      @M..R.... 2 роки тому

      Dont forget thats just the internal tank...you'd also have your external 51 litre Aquaroll

    • @mick2d2
      @mick2d2 2 роки тому

      @@M..R.... I also have an aquaroll. Doesn’t change the fact that the internal tank is on the small size!
      When you’re on the road, it’s nice to have a bigger tank.

  • @katcankan7129
    @katcankan7129 2 роки тому

    Not my cup of tea. Yes Dougal approved!....kind of 🤣🐶💜

  • @darrenwilson8042
    @darrenwilson8042 2 роки тому +3

    Quite an expensive disappointment

  • @jonbwfc
    @jonbwfc 2 роки тому

    Nice video tour, but in no way worth the asking price.

  • @wsatnutter9674
    @wsatnutter9674 2 роки тому

    never 42k more like 29k to many corners cut

  • @HitchUpAndTow
    @HitchUpAndTow 2 роки тому

    A bit out of my price range lol

  • @lindakirk698
    @lindakirk698 2 роки тому

    Wow that's a big price for basic finishing. OK it's got some added extras, but really, not going with the big price for less comfy cozy. I wouldnt buy it!

  • @hyacinth673
    @hyacinth673 2 роки тому

    Don’t like the layout can’t understand the amount they want for it no way would I buy that even if I had the money

  • @zcsccg1
    @zcsccg1 2 роки тому

    Way off mark for 42k to be honest. Surely no one will fall for that. My twin ax elddis 860 GTS trump's that for half the price

  • @stevenbloomfield6964
    @stevenbloomfield6964 2 роки тому

    Inet what a waste of time & money that is. What they don’t tell you is you need a sim with a data plan. Mine wouldn’t never sync with Bluetooth & you had do it every time you came back to the van.

    • @andrewjditton
      @andrewjditton  2 роки тому

      My experience with caravan and motorhome apps has never been positive - but then I'm pretty analogue and I appreciate that many people do like tech. Handy to know about the sim and data plan, cheers Steven!

    • @M..R....
      @M..R.... 2 роки тому

      We:ve got iNet and you dont need a data plan. We bought an O2 PAYG SIM card for £1 and topped it up.. texts cost 2p without ANY DATA PLAN. We can switch heating /hot water on by text and find out the status by text...cheap as chips and no data plan. Syncs everytime with no problems at all.

  • @jacko8022
    @jacko8022 2 роки тому

    toodels

  • @simonstevenson2941
    @simonstevenson2941 2 роки тому

    That certainly is a lovely caravan but at that price with such a useless payload, err, no thank you.

  • @mat5726
    @mat5726 2 роки тому +1

    That’s disappointing, not the vid but the caravan

  • @sandraforbes5907
    @sandraforbes5907 2 роки тому

    ? ??o?o??

  • @Andythenurse
    @Andythenurse 2 роки тому

    Not that keen on this caravan. A lot of money for something that poorly thought out.

  • @craigoneill4504
    @craigoneill4504 2 роки тому

    Positively underwhelming, nothing special to that caravan, fancy lettering outside, but thats about it. It's a no thanks from me I'm afraid.