Leave it to the Empire to come up with an imaginative name like "Imperial Troop Transport"
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- And, as you will note from the photos in the video, OF COURSE the ITT isn't standardized, in any way, shape, or form. There's, like, five different versions of the blessed thing, because NOTHING in the Star Wars universe can EVER be standardized.
As much as I like to rip on the Mon Calamari for producing basically one-off capitol ships, the entire universe has completely buggered their logistics chain.
"Oh, you want parts for an ITT? WHICH ONE?" - Наука та технологія
I love the Cows head logo, and that you chose to invert it to conceal it.
For being so simple, you have no idea how long it took me to get that right.
Thanks for noticing ;).
Wait, so the logo is actually a styalized Cow's head flipped upside down that doubles as an S, C, and S?
I never noticed that. :)
@@eclipseslayer98 The cow's right-side up. The C/anchor are his horns. The Ses describe the shape of the cow head.
@@SacredCowShipyards I disagree, flip it upside down and the S are the horns, and the C anchor is the head snout of the animal. I know you drew it but im still just going to disagree with how you intended it.
Look, "Imperial Party Bus" was already taken. The Emperor had reserved that for his personal transport.
So Imperial Party Wagon is still good
ALL ABOARD THE IMPERIAL PARTY BUS!
When your ships are designed by toy makers - the stormtroopers are on the outside so you could put your action figures in the pockets
I mean in some ways they are offered similar protection to troops in early open top APCs like the hanomag, M3, early models of the BTR40, 152 and 60, instead of a big compartment with like under the arm height light armor you have your own personal little pocket, hell its possible it might be safer in the sense if a shell punches into and explodes inside an open troop bay or lands on the open top it will probably kill most if not all with the explosion, shrapnel and blast wave, those little pockets might save your life if Garry 2 feet over gets a small moartar (believe it or not they exist in star wars, the seven model them in the FFG) inside his compartment theres a chance you might live with serious to non existent (aside from the PTSD flashbacks) injuries depending on the angle of impact and size
@@josephmontanaro2350 only to be cut down by small arms
@@justarandomtechpriest1578 actually the remember hearing a report that the British army found that having open tops meant the troop could more effectively retaliate and actually reduced casualties.
@@deth3021 Does casualty include fatalities?
@Jallorn dictionaries are a thing, you know?
The Murder Brick has modular ablative bio armor! A great selling point.
Jelly Armor o.o
Lucasfilm designer: "I've hit a wall... I need inspiration for my next design..."
Pushes himself away from said wall and spies a brick.
"Eureka!"
I mean the Falcon was a Burger with a side of Olives and the Slave 1 was a street light.
Kenner Designer.
I mean... yeah.
the rebels cartoon shows it being used to transport for prisoners on the outside as well
Indeed and now I think of it you could load each pod with a cargo drops for small outlaying storm trooper deployments or perhaps even rack folded up speeder bikes on the side too. I suppose one design change I'd make is to make the pod fold up into large plates on the side when not in use - that could take a Rocket hit too.
The cartoons at least lind of made it more plausible than the 70's toys which were 'OK, people in armor are supposed to climb in and out of very narrow buckets somehow."
They use the civilian as meat shield the rebels are not going attack innocent people if they do then they are the bad group
@@spynetgaming2210 Luckily Star Wars isn't Far Cry - LOL
This seems like it would have been designed for battle droids instead of soldiers. The design makes perfect sense then. Even for storm troopers it provides some pretty strong motivation to hit the enemy if you're out there.
Probably. Although I have to admit I do like the "slight" retcon of the ITT found in The Mandalorian. Where they very clearly have raised the sides and center of the side "pockets" to grant significantly more cover for the troops on the sides, essentially turning them into little bunkers for the troops to shoot out from. Although I think that reflects on the post-Empire world a bit in that suddenly manpower isn't quite so expendable as it was before.
@@Wearyman I saw it as a different model of the same type of vehicle, as a military design is never always set in stone and gets upgraded in one way or another. The AT-AT is a good example, as in Rebels it was a smaller model that was more rounded, shape wise, and even had a back turret...though said turret was debatable, effectiveness wise, and also had less protection, while the AT-ATs during the battle of Hoth were more heavily armored, taller, more straight, and removed the pointless turret.
@@welkingunther5417 If I remember correctly, the ones in Rebels weren't AT-ATs. they were AT-TE's. An earlier version of what became the AT-AT. That said, your point is still, I think, relevant and noteworthy. The Troop Transport would have gone through revisions, and what we see in The Mandalorian is a later model.
@@Wearyman No, the AT-TE was the walker used by the Republic, and is honestly more practical for war in comparison. Still though, it at least makes sense to upgrade available gear. Unfortunately though for the Empire, the Tarkin Doctrine follows fear for the most part over practicality, especially in regards to fighting a faction like the Rebellion, as they learned the wrong lessons and expected a repeat of the last war, not guerilla warfare essentially.
@@welkingunther5417 and as we saw an old broken down AT-TE can i the right situation, do a number on a deployment of At-ATs
Unimaginative names is kind of the human standard. An APC, which name is used in multiple games, is an "Armored Personnel Carrier". The Deuce and a Half you pictured is the nickname for the "Two and a Half Ton" Truck. Humans use literal descriptions as names all the time. We also use similar tactics on gun trucks and helicopters of the troops being transported hang out the side with guns to shoot at the enemy.
'Battleship': what did navies mean by this?
Not only that but "duece and a half" actually refers to an older vehicle, the vehicles we are most familiar with inherited that name even though they don't weigh 2.5 tons like the original namesake.
This is true even for place names. We tend to forget that a lot of our place names meant something to somebody else. Generally because those folks are long dead.
@@CuAnnuvin the majority of places in the world are named something like "green valley" or "City on the River".
Tanks are just, Tanks. That's there vehicle class. Simple is pretty handy
Oh, 5 versions of the ITT tilts your lid? When I was provisioning and standardizing National Stock Numbers for the MRAP we had no less than 18 versions from 12 different manufacturers. And that's all from one planet.
Also, I don't think troopers in armor would be bothered by exposure to the elements. Their armor may not stop a blaster bolt, but it does block the wind and grit.
Well, the skinsuit might.
The armor flops around so much you could stick a stick in the gaps.
Oh.
@@SacredCowShipyards That won't kill them.
Ewok poison will, though. Ewoks poisoned their weapons with a toxin that shuts down all your muscles. Including your lungs, which means you die choking.
@@HolyknightVader999 Did not know that gruesome detail and didn't need to know.
@@HolyknightVader999 so Botox?
Well you see sand is ruff and corse. And it gets everywhere…
This seems like the family friendly version of the Chimera from 40k - guardsmen are the definition of disposable troops.
Even in 40k, guardsmen aren't bolted on vehicles as ablative armor though.
@@Gauntlet1212 ya Chimeras are actually really good IFVs.
@@Gauntlet1212 Krieg: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN
@@isimiel3405 lol
Pretty much exactly, It's a big blocky vehicle with forward weapons, a main turret, and 6 infantry weapon hardpoints (the main difference is the Empire transport has it's infantry on the outside instead of just having E-11 portholes like the 6 lasguns mounted on the Chimera.
Look at the US Armys Stryker, you have multiple versions of the same basic troop transport.
As much as Im happy to rip on poor writing, the ITT having different or modular configs makes sense.
In Rebels this thing was able to take fire from like 2 AT-DP heavy cannons and survived
Its basicly invincible
There was a complete lack of fucks given with all the people that died in that galaxy, far, far away.
Not terribly far removed from WH40k, in a variety of ways.
Troops in field would salvage and make improvised armour from scrapyards and bolt it on to give themselves full body cover.
Despite the platitudes and assurances of Darth _Rumsfeld._
Dead "heroes" don't need pensions or healthcare!
ummm...Infantry Fighting Vehicles are an actual thing for transporting troops to the battle AND providing additional firepower at the battle. They've only existed for 50 years now...
most APCs are also armed as well (normaly less so for just light self defense or fire support) also all soviet tanks up to the T-62 had handholds for tank riders and the modern Merkiva MBT has a small troop bay that can allow its use as a sort of heavy IFV
@@josephmontanaro2350 also an extremely well protected ambulance in emergency if I recall correctly.
See the Empire realized stuff like the M231 Firing Port Weapon kinda sucked so they just made the porthole bigger so the trooper could stick stick his whole torso out and shoot people with his regular rifle. Plus Stormtroopers are already walking around at MOPP 4 all day so you don't need to seal your vehicle for CBRN warfare instead you can just have a big open hatch on the side.
Yeah but a clever rebel can easily lob a satchel charge, thermal detonator, a sci fi 40mm grenade, or anti tank missile through the openings
@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 They can do that to a sealed vehicle too. No matter how good your optics are the commander is going to have his head out the hatch at some point. There is an infamous video on the internet of someone tossing a grenade down the barrel of a tank in Syria and taking it out. Having those portholes open actually gives an explosion someplace to go if a bomb gets inside, combine that with the troops being in personal armored suits might not make it such a big deal.
@@williammagoffin9324 To add to your point, I don't remember if this is mentioned in the video or not, but those six troop housings on the sides actually don't have an opening into the main hull of the ship, they're literally just like baby carriers bolted onto the sides of the thing. So even if a rebel *does* toss a satchel charge into one of those cubbyholes there, the only thing that gets damaged is the troop itself. And as SCS mentioned, they've literally got trillions of those just sitting around in Imperial barracks, losing a dozen of them is less than a drop in the bucket. I don't think there's even anything all that advanced in those side housings either, other than the mechanism to swing the door open, so it's not even like the carrier itself loses all that much of a bomb goes off in them anyway. They're legitimately just six big ol' buckets on the sides that troops stand in, they are the absolute epitome of minimalist functionality. People really don't give the empire enough credit when it comes to their design doctrine.
The ITT can also use living shields as "extra armor" like in Rebels. Put some hostages on the outside and the squeamish opposition won't fire on those ITT-s.
Had the toy as a kid. It was my absolute favorite vehicle. I envisioned it as kind of an intergalactic General Lee. I was 6, don't judge.
There is one use that those six-outside troopers would be excellent for: "pacifying" urban slums.
For a Murder Brick, it flew pretty good..
A thought occured that gives this thing 1 un-ironically good thing.
The dorsal laser is for defense. When the thing parks and releases its poorly shooting cargo it forms effectively a stationary gun platform to protect from aerial attack. Given the prevalence of small fliers I'd think that's good.
Other than that on point
In Rebels we see it being used for just that. It could even take out TIE fighters when the rebels captured ITTs. They could shoot at the 'Ghost' (which is basically a fortress bomber made into a large freighter) in low flights.
@@imperialpatriot6693 Okay that's cool
The composite cannons that were on the sides of the early LAATs would be good to have for these riding rough Stormies.
So basically this thing is the Chimera from the Imperial Guard in Warhammer 40k.
This thing was based on a Kenner ST toy from the 1980s that was never in any of the films back then. The video actually showed one near the end.
BTW there were two versions of the toy one with electronic battle noises & one without. I had the "without" version, but a friend of mine had the "with" version.
I actually kinda loved this thing back then. It was definitely a toy of the age, designed for figures with almost ZERO articulation, but it had playability and looked rather cool. But I'm VERY much in love with the Mandalorian redesign, with a complete interior and loads of play options. It actually completes some of the glaring weaknesses of the 80s toy design, making it an effective military vehicle
@@SilentSooYun Glaring weakness. It was even apparent back then to my childish brain that you don't make rl military vehicles like this. What's the point of the external cubicles? Making target practice out of stormtroopers?
@@petergray7576 Me too.
@@petergray7576 "You don't make military vehicles like this" pretty much sums up all Star Wars military vehicles. The movies and TV series were driven almost entirely by how stuff looked. Then later people making books and games had to try and come up with some sort of rational, often mumbling something about "Tarkin Doctrine" if it was Imperial, when the original designers clearly didn't give a crap about practicality.
The kind of Grenade launchers you get in videogames would be a cool thing to give to the Troops on each side.
It may seem a tad silly and they are "a little" vulnerable where they are.
But depending on the use case - it may not be completely nuts. Also imagine they put Battle Droids in those nooks - then the whole thing could operate with a smaller crew & reduce the food and resources it has to carry and so extend it's range.
They could also use the pods for carrying prisoners to discourage people from shooting at them too.
Also I could totally see this in the Gi Joe Universe used by Cobra - only with wheels on it. Actually it would look really cute with wheels on it like a baby Turbo tank.
The prisoner methodology was used at least once in Star Wars Rebels.
CIS snail tanks and AATs could have B1 tankriders that could fire on the move (debatable how accurate their fire was given their already low quality FCS but like when they are on foot massed volly fire can still suppress and kill in some cases)
Imperial officers sometimes carry grenade launchers. Some navy troops also had mortal launchers as well.
It needs a gun on the bottom. If it's designed to be aerial dropped, it should be able to clear a landing.
Almost like the AT-AT is an undergunned, over sized piece of junk... The Troop transport is kidna the bmp of the starwars universe, cheap, strong armament, can carry troops, more if you put them on the outside. Needs a missile launcher tho. Also putting troops on anything that moves was pretty much WW2 soviet doctrine, Soldiers would ride on the back of T34 tanks, using the turret as cover and deploy once the tank reaches enemy lines, compared to that this thing is very accomodating to the troop compliment. This thing beats walking and still offers better protection than just walking in the open so it's a clear upgrade over that plus it has bigger guns. Don't get me wrong this is still a horrible design compared to pretty much any apc/ifv on earth but for star wars this is pretty solid.
Not just the T34. The Soviets used all the M3 Lees they received via lend-lease as essentially IFV, somehow managing to fit in a tank that with the regular 6-crew the Americans considered tight both the full crew AND a full sub machine gun squad. Somehow. And used the side hatches as doors for those passengers.
@@PandaMan-xy1he makin do
You really have to hand it to grand admiral thrawn in legends, he took a military force that Palpatine designed around cheap production and expandability and managed to create a force efficient enough to drag the war out for over a decade after Palpatine's death
It's like a mix between a BMP-3 (IFV, decently armored, has a big 100mm gun and 30mm autocannon and missiles and has space for infantry transport inside) and WW2 Soviet Tactics (aka use mounted soldiers while pushing so that they take panzerfaust/panzerschrek rounds before it hits the tank)
Sorry, I'm not so fluent in English, but by "mounted soldiers" do you mean cavalry, or soldiers mounted on tanks? If it's second, than your idea of Soviets using soldiers as ablative armor against panzershreck is just bonkers.
Have you considered that Red Army soldiers rode on tanks, well, because there was not enough trucks/IFV in area of operation, and not because "evil commisars" decided that strapping soldiers on tanks is just great protection?
@@undying2160
They had 0 ifvs
Cause it wasnt common at the time
It was more a
Tank has armor truck doesn't
Hop on tank ride into enemy lines hop off tanks and draw fire
Advance trucks
In WWII and Korean war, US Army infantry would ride on back of the tanks until the shooting started, then get off.
I always viewed the Troop Transport like a Huey from Vietnam where some had stubby wings with rockets while the body could hold about 12 troops with no real side protection as it is coming into a landing zone.
The design was created for a SW toy that didn't see much sales. That's why they're bolted on to the side of the transport.
Also it really showcases just how little the Empire cares about their conscripted troops, which is kind of a point.
Fits standard action figures? +
Design -
I would have opened the drivers area so you would need two more action figures sold separately. Same with the laser turret (+1). That's nine to fill the external slots. Integrate a carry handle and you might actually sell them. 🤦
There where no “good” main factions in Star Wars. You can’t change my mind.
The only good guys in the entire Star Wars universe were the proles simply trying to make it through their lives on whatever planet they happened to be trapped on, laboring under whichever misguided government was crushing said planet at the given moment.
I did appreciate how The Mandalorian glanced off that concept through its story.
Can’t disagree. Empire had the emperor and moffs and warlords screwing around.
Rebels were terrorists with insufficient backing that resorted to “Amy means necessarily tactics.
The republic was prone to handing power to charismatic speakers while also failing to protect its member nation borders as disarming in the face of rising tensions was their raison d’etre.
The Jedi were the SW version of dis world unseen academy but insisted on being an unaccountable military grade force that played in politics and kidnapping while also ignoring local rules.
The sith failed so badly they their final coherent decision was a battle royale until only one lived, who would then seek an apprentice to torment, train and keep just weak enough to use as a torture-buddy but also powerful enough to send out as a humanoid problem solver/decoy.
Cartels, yeah, no.
Smugglers? Hive of scum and villainy.
That about covers the major players.
@@SacredCowShipyards And then they had a handful of """""heroes""""" murdering indiscriminately their way across a ship, including unarmed, injured and surrendered.
Like, literally, in the beginning of the last episode, you can clearly see one of them strait up executing a pilot who was surrendering, begging on her knees.
How fucked up is that.
Nobody in that series are heroes and we're not meant to think they are. They're bad guys we happen to sympathize with because we follow their perspective and they mostly murder other bad guys. Mercenaries, terrorists, and fanatics the lot of them.
I think the 6 on the outside are extra. Those slots are more often used for cargo or prisoners/hostages. Could be a punishment detail that gets you stuck outside.
I had the original version of this, way back around the cusp of the 80s.
3:29) The truck, foreground carries 2.5 tons off road. 5 tons on hard surface roads. Easy to ID from the 5 bows under the canvas, or the 5 slots for them. The other truck is a 5 ton and has 7 bows.
3:56) Twin Ion Engines. TIE.
7:38) Some rocket launchers have no back blast. One o them is the Armbruster? Ambruster? Since the Sturmtruppers are being used a s door gunners, some heavy gun rings would add firepower. The 5 ton truck at 3:29 gas a fifty caliber Heavy Machine Gun (HMG) ring on the right side top.
You remind me of every ship in Star Control and Starcontrol 2. They measure the hit points of all ships in 'crew' and using psionic to capture enemy crew repairs damage done to your ship... so it's very much like you're strapping bodies to your ship to hold it together
TBF, there is sometimes a good reason to ride on top of a transport. If your going through terrain thats good for ambush, having more eyes to spot really helps. Then there's the issue if the transport is hit and on fire and the doors are jammed.
Plus the role of APCs is to transport troops TO battle, and not INTO battle.
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Yeah, I think "having more eyes" is a pretty good in-universe rationale for the side pods (I think they should put some kind of feature to prevent troopers from getting tired for standing though). Tank commanders in real life expose themselves to get better view to spot the danger earlier, preferably first. It may not be the best thing to do in some scenario (like when you have enemy sniper presence), but the ability to find your enemy fast seems to be pretty highly valued.
@@KenTails I think a big issue is that cinema always shows APC/IFVs battering ramming straight into a fight which they aren't suppose to do. What they do is allow troops to move in closer unharmed compared to just walking.
Speaking of the 'Vong, you should do a breakdown of their bio-ships!
The only major issue with this vehicle was the external troop compartments(most troops were inside and the vehicle was quite literally indestructible).
If they removed the external compartments and made it possible to fire blasters from inside the vehicle via specific ball joint areas prob be a lot more useful. Less sci fi tho
Tie fighters are basically an imperial zerg rush
Truth.
basicly its armoured infantry returned to mechanized infantry, they aren't necessarily protected but they are getting transported.
The empire does also sometimes stick prisoners in the side compartments as meatshields, on the grounds that even if they don't give a crap about them the enemy actually might.
I mean I like to imagine that there’s enough space in those little capsules for a stormtrooper to duck down and use the door as a bit of cover from small arms blaster fire
But I’m pretty sure those little capsules are meant for transporting prisoners over troopers
During the Vietnam war, soldiers rode on top of their armored personnel carriers rather than inside of them, so the Imperial Troop Transport is not without precedent.
Yea as a vet it does make sense. The UH1 and Black Hawks will have dedicated door gunners the big doors can be opened so the gooey soldiers inside can also shoot.
Oh for the love of god. I TOLD you that the allowable varriance on the mag lev platforms was 2.55 kg, two point five five! NOT 255 KG. How many people have you crushed this month?
They also sometimes kept prisoners in those outer pods to dissuade rebels from shooting at them.
And you can transport 6 troopers per trip in this? 8, I suppose, if you include the pilot and gunner. Seems like its capacity leaves a bit to be desired.
Honestly, at first blush I thought this was the imperial fleet's honeywagon. A six-hole Andy Gump meant to ply its way from ship to ship to facilitate potty call for the troops and crews in compensation for the fact that none of these ship designs apparently include toilet facilities of any kind. I draw your attention to Spacedock's essay, "The Most Important Thing On A Spaceship."
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In Mandalorian they put like dozen troopers inside.
But boy howdy do I remember the troop transport. Had one in the early 80s. Robust for a piece of Kenner plastic, actually, but still an odd design for an AFV. Of course, this is an empire that designed the AT-AT, so no points for tactical flexibility.
The AT-AT makes a certain sort of very specialized logic, under the requirement that Hoth showed _exactly_ what they're for: blowing up things that prevent you from using your normal tech, so that you _can_ use your normal tech.
I think this particular Imperial Troop Transport is the kind that is "cube proof" since it's so insanely tough.
Check out scenes from last summer's protests. Police routinely showed up basically "strapped on to the side of the transport", so perhaps this is more common than you realize. Obviously, in that situation no one is shooting lethal weapons, so the analogy isn't perfect, but close.
This is like modeled have the M111 or the german Half-track (Sd.Kfz. 251) in WW2. Where troops could fight from the back of the vehicle. They just moved them from the carrier compartment to the outside in a fitting for carrying an individual. It also allows for rapid deployment off the side of the vehicle similar to how Air Cavalry deploys from both doors on a helicopter
These things are actually heavily armored, and in it's current canon configuration it's unclear if some stormtroopers are forced to be exposed or if those are simply firing positions they can man
It would be nice if the star wars designers would use actual vehicles for inspiration say the Russian BMP-1 armored carries a squad has a big gun and missile launcher wait there's more the troops can fire through ports in the side or the vehicle keeping the people protected unlike the inperial target practice vehicle.
LAAT be like: The best defence is a good offence. And damn, does it have a good offence.
The version in the Mandalorian 7:47 fixes some of the issues as you can see the outside booths aren't actually separate from the interior but are a kind of hatch to let them pour out of quickly.
it can be easy re-canonized as the pockets being used to carry security driods for the empire.
"The Mouse annihilated any kind of reference to them." Literally the only good thing Disney has ever done for the Star Wars universe.
We invented a great tool for the external stormtrooper racks called "firing ports" here on Terra.
Stickin stromps to your ride works! It saves a ton on paint cause you just hose their bits off later.
2:43 HEY! They also make Jabba's actual Space Ship. The Minstrel-Class Star Yacht. A tanky Corvette size thing that can mount 6 turbolasers, some lighter guns, and carry 6 starfighters. Also if you play Dark Forces 1 it's way bigger than 160 meters long on the inside and has a really sweet bar!
They also make what seem to be their own versions of their parent company Kuat Drive Yards' Lancer frigate and a ship similarly armed to KDY's Nebulon-B Escort Frigates. (We have no pictures of these ships but other than a missing digit on the crew count one of them is just a copy paste of the Lancer Class Frigate's statline.) And the Floating Fortress, and AT-AT equivalent that hovers and has an actual turret.
Carries troops, lightly armored, has an auto cannon turret, designed for troops to quickly dismount into battle with fire support. It's an Infantry Fighting Vehicle!
Honestly this design makes perfect sense. Protect the drivers so the vehicle keeps moving, but have easy access for the troops to begin firing before they even exit the vehicle. It's the Star Wars equivalent to taking the doors of the Humvee so you can get out and counter attack faster.
That feeling when you're an imperial stormtrooper that's served in the 20 year long Tatooine war against a bunch of sand humping Tuskans, and the emperor just gave them as many walkers as they wanted and pulled all imperial forces off the planet >:(
That reminds me: the Soviet BMP's have portholes with clamps that allow you to hook your AK-74 and let you open fire while the vehicle is in motion.
I hear they initially wanted to call it the Bradley, but they changed the name at the very last moment.
Any brick can be a Murder Brick if you believe hard enough
i'd argue this is one of the few cool vehicles the empire has ever developed, as it's an all around decent vehicle that's is well armored yet has a much more shorter profile, dish out great fire power against opponents in similar weight class, surprisingly fast, and all you need is to replace the stormtroopers with battle droids (and with battle droids you can shove in additional droids, since they can fold themself while deactivated). you could send only several of these to wipe out most rebel hide out with less effort then what walker and several storm troopers can pull off
'6.21 'Trooper whats you hand doing inside there...are you checking you belt ''
''Err... yes yes yes yes .YES !! FOR THE EMPIRE !!!!....arrrrrrrrrrr...my belt fine now sir''
ITT Pilots: "Four of the troopers riding outside died."
Imperial Grand General Clarkson: "Oh no...Anyway."
I also like the Imperial APCs from Rogue Squadron Rebel strike, two big arms with guns at the end protect the troops as they disembark, (Or trap them in the line of fire if the commander lets them out directly facing the enemy like idiots) with an Eweb on the commander's cuppola.
Me from 0:00-5:57: ‘Neat. Maybe a bit impractical, perhaps a few design flaws, but I can’t imagine there’s much else.’
Me when the image at 5:58 pops up: *W H E E Z E*
This is actually something both superpowers have done (in the past) via port firing weapons or just gun ports on armored transports
Its basically the LAV 25 or Striker in Starwars
general rule of thumb for how star wars small arms mesh with IRL, holdout blasters are like picket pistol style rounds from like .25 ACP to possibly 9MM, blaster pistols range from something like 9mm to small intermediate rifle rounds (5.56 to 5.45), heavy blaster pistols range from like .357 to litterly 12.7 (in the case of the power of something like the DL44), blaster rifles go from all the way from 9mm up to like 7.62, heavy blaster rifles are like 5.56 to possibly 20mm/30mm autocannons (depending on how you class something like an E web compared to more man portable systems which can both be called heavy blaster rifles in some circles), laser cannons (heavy, medium and regular) range from something like 50mm to 90mm autocannons, 25mm to 40mm autocannons and 7.62 to like a 35mm autocannon (lot of overlap on some depending on the source so this is just a rough idea, overall laser=something between 7.62 to like a 76mm naval autocannon) turbo lasers (light, medium, heavy and super heavy) are roughly 76mm to 120mm, 120mm to 155mm, 155mm to 203mm and finally 12 inch guns to small tactical nuclear weapons respectively, super lasers (DS and similar) are roughly strategic nuclear weapon+, these are all kind of loose but are intended to give a rough idea on scale but it varies from source to source and some things power scales overlap, like supposedly in some sources you could down a starfighter with a DL44 and that massed laser cannon fire can whittle down a star destroyers shields or destroy external systems while in other cases light turbo lasers are like a mild hailstorm, ions and disruptors and other exotics are even harder to classify in power scale, really just to give an idea on how inconsistent the lore is you have the ISD and the gladiator both classes as SDDs, there are examples of corvets as small as the gazanti (roughly similar to the YT1400) and the CR90 which is way bigger (also a fornian gunship is about the same size as a gazanti roughly), not to mention a bellator is like half the size of an executor but both are SSDs, it's weird man
edit: obscure fun fact, the MP38,MP40 and related submachineguns have that little fun under the barrel. that is not a bayonet lug but a rest designed to be braced over the side of an open toped APC (can be used on other surfaces as well)
I concede that from the original and prequel trilogies I entirely missed the "racism" and "xenophobia" parts of the Empire. The struggle was presented as a typical set of American tropes with deep classical roots- republicanism, democracy, liberty against monarchy, autocracy, tyranny. Plus a layer of vaguely Nazi aesthetic to make it more totalitarian and not just morally arguable outbreak of Caesarism or traditional George III style monarchy, neither of which seemed all that threatening in the late 20th century context. ROTJ and the prequels brought in the good/evil religious war aspect of the Sith versus Jedi, which made it more fantasy and added moral/spiritual depth and consequence. The rest of it seems to have seeped in from random bits of the old EU, sporadically drawn even then and only clear, if not all that obvious, in the sequel era. I'd probably give the empire a pass anyway- the republic was pretty large and the only things truly xeno to it were the Unknown Regions and, if you're into EU, extra galactic nightmares. Then again, I'm a committed vongophobe. Or maybe vongopath.
The whole racism and xenophobia thing was never explicitly part of any of the movies, at least not the OT. All of that really came about in the ancillary materials like the comics, books, and RPGs. I think that authors came up with that based on how we never see any non-humans in the ranks of the Empire while we see any number of aliens amongst the Rebels.
We can now confidently say that the Empire is based on the modern Democ'Rat Party. An Emperor; a cult following; Killer Drones; nefarious plans to kill off whole planetary populations....its all there.
@@Joisey11
Given George Lucas’s own political leanings, the emperor is probably Richard Nixon.
@@Joisey11 Oh for fucks sake.
Racism themes were never strongly implied in the original trilogy, but they were kind of there in the background, though they were likely unintentional. The Empire was only ever depicted as pure human while the rebels were a hodgepodge of different species working together (though admittedly that really only applies in RotJ). There are only two instances of the empire working with none humans in the OT, the spy who found the Falcon, and the bounty hunters Vader hired, and one of those two groups were called scum by an imperial officer.
Granted this is likely because Lucas could only afford costumes for a fraction of his extras in the first movie and that budget got blown on the cantina scene.
There's fan theory saying that the whole Star Wars saga was nothing than Obi Wan and Rey retelling their life experiences. After listening to that theory and a couple of you videos about vehicle names...I think Star Wars is pretty much the Lego Movie. The whole thing is made up by some kid/nerd while playing with some toys. I mean it's supposed to happen a long time ago in a galaxy far far away and yet we have Earthly words and concepts used throughout the series. We have shuttles called the Abecedarian lines and each shuttle model is named with Greek names.
It feels the original is told during a kid's play time, the prequels is told through his/her teenage days while the sequels is crafted in his/her time college.
So kids are the best story tellers.
@@slaplapdog actually true
It looks like basic motorised infitray to me roll up dicks out guns blazing spread out lay down fire and have the vehicle return with more troops or stand off and provide fire support.
Really reminds me of the Russian BMP troop transport with the side doors and roof hatches.
The vong: that one time the empire was the lesser of two evils
Once i think about it, the reason why the empire went into the expendable approach to their military, is primarily because:
- they have an extremely large territory to cover, against pirates, separatist hold outs, and rebels. To them these minor factions could barely put up a fight so they had no real need to upgrade their fighters.
- in the event of rebels do try to steal TIE fighters, it would be useless anyways to them due to how expendable and vulnarable they are.
The best explanation I have for Stormtrooper armor is that its not about making sure the trooper is still standing after a hit, but that he survives. Since stormtroopers are supposed to be outnumbering their enemies and the rebels needing to flee even if they are victorious you cab pick up the downed soldiers afterwards, heal them up and send them back in. It helps the recycling process and also helps the soldiers in their almost suicidal attacks. You might get hurt, but as long as you and your friends did your part you can be saved. It also helps in maintaining the skill of your soldiers since you dont have to throw fresh recruits into the mix.
And yes, stormtroopers in the original trilogy were *incredible* marksmen. The opening scene in A New Hope sees them take a chokepoint against overwhelming odds with fewer people and casualties than their opponents. Obi-wan says they are accurate and they were ordered to miss on the Death Star and Cloud City. Seeing their guns being semi-auto and their accuracy rate far outperforming that of modern militaries just makes them that much scarier.
I kinda love the 180 you pull on the common opinion of this thing.
Everyone else: "Wow, this thing is so stupid. The Storm Troopers are just bolted onto the side like baby carriers, like they WANT them to die."
Sacred Cow: "Yes. That's the POINT. When you have, quite literally, *ALL THE MAN POWER IN THE GALAXY,* who cares if a couple of these bozos get sizzled? Plus, now you've got extra "armor" that can also shoot back at things! What's not to love?"
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At least under Papa Palpatine, the shuttles ran on time.
The Empire mostly uses cheap units because they're spread thin. They have 70 million worlds, not counting the billions of young, barren, mineral-rich worlds they have from the Mining Guild. So of course, most of their army will just have enough to get the job done. There are elite units there, spread amongst the cannon fodder. TIE Defenders and TIE Hunters have energy shields, hyperdrives, proton torpedoes, and ion cannons, but they're expensive, so they're saved for veteran pilots or commando units. There are power-armored elite units like Dark Troopers, Hazard Troopers, Zero-G Stormtroopers, but again, such power armor isn't cheap, so they're saved for the real chads of the Imperial forces who deserve such armor. Stormtrooper commanders even have energy shields and handheld blaster cannons, and they're accompanied by elite Shadow Stormtroopers who have cloaking devices, rapid-fire blasters, and thicker armor. Later on, they even developed Dark Jedi Shadowtroopers, who have lightsaber-proof armor and were imbued with the power of the Force and trained to use lightsabers. But again, those guys are elites among the Empire, akin to Space Marines in 40K.
As much build up the vong had in lore… they always felt like a plot device to me. Their whole thing with tech hating and non force stuff felt like a missed opportunity to loop things back to trea and the whills of the force, or he’ll even pointing out the purpose of the dark side and that it was not meant to be synonymous with Sith doing evil shit. They could have tied so much up but we’re instead villains with no nuance to really speak of.
This was obviously designed to be a toy before anything else.
To make up a reason to buy 6 identical dolls.
"Murder brick" couldnt stop laughin i gotta watch this
Speaking of disposable workforce:have you heard from that little kobold researcher lately?
Oddly no.
@@SacredCowShipyards thats no good... perhaps someone should look into that?
Alternatively you could call it the Imperial Clown Car
Your not expendable, just easily replaced.
I WILL NOT IGNORE THAT COMMENT!
The Mouse did my old legends material the dirty. I wish Legends to return.
We all do.
This thing makes me think of a glorifed cattle car for some reason.
Almost certainly deliberate.
3:20 on the rear right hand side... are those taillights? It kind of makes sense if you are throwing a battalion at the enemy, spacing out your LZ and all.
To be fair to the Tie-Fighter, they were also faster than almost any other fighter out there when the Empire started spewing them out like an overflowing spillway.
That meant they could _ensure_ they could throw themselves at the enemy in order get a hit or two in before they got wasted by a member of a vacuum-capable species rolling down the window and opening up with its sidearm.
Also, the Stormtroopers on the smaller versions would have to hold on for dear life as their center of gravity is above the "bucket." The smaller ones and the medium versions would all require the Stormtroopers to hold on tightly to their weapons just to avoid losing them.
The largest version basically has them in an open-top bunker that unfolds into protection for the exiting troops.
I always tought it was for prisonner. If you put your ennemy outside your véhicule (still alive i mean) it might be usefull deterrent
ITT looks like a mobile bunker
Most people in the Empire don't really know about the bad things it does and those who do are not really in the full loop.
Just to remind everyone the ST armor is useful, it distributes energy across the entire body from most blasts knocking out the trooper, but leaving them alive and mostly unharmed. Heavy rounds still punch hard enough to kill a trooper, but those are less commonly found on the battle field than standard or light rounds.
Good video. A few things: 1. Ubrikkian industries also made the Umbrikkian Flying fortress. Was only seen in one episode of the Clone Wars and was used by Trandoshan hunters as flying outpost on their hunting worlds. Other than that, I agree, they have the 3 things to named and that's it. Look at Kuat Drive yards though, those bastards can build.
2. The Empire didn't equip most of their star fighters with hyperdrive due to the fact that they thought pilots would desert the military in a stolen TIE fighters
3. the Empire wouldn't allow its pilots to fly multiple sorties with the same TIE because they didn't want the pilot to become attached to the fighter
4. The Mon Calamari ships are technically cities as well. They are designed as deep sea cities and can withstand immense pressure due to this reason... also they're fish people, so they like to keep they're ships super humid
Also, f*ck Disney. They ruined star wars... except the mandalorian. That was good