Thanks for the review! The focal length and aperture comparisons to other lenses are very much appreciated - not something I have seen in other reviews.
This channel is a gold mine! Brilliant! Keep up the great work. You are covering topics which huge part of audience is interested in... And that is getting quality footage with (non full frame cameras). So a big thank you. And best wishes 👍🏻
I had to subscribe. This video, is not just a review, but also a work of art and showing what possibilities one can create. I have a 6000 and trying decide in Tamron 17-70 and this one. Stunning shots, color is rich and full, image, quality. Makes me think if I rush out and buy, I too can have results like this. Great work, excellent presentation. Thank you as I shop for my one lens that covers most all my needs
Not exaclty, it was hard scenerio for AF, low light, back lit and slog3 so they both have hard time to choose what to focus on, but if you have faster lens then less will be in focus, with 2.8 even if it misses focus it's more forgivable because more will be in focus. I should set my focus area on left-upper part of the image then there would be no issues like that but I was in hurry and didn't thoght about that :)
I was debating on getting the Tamron or the Sigma for my ZV-E10 as well. I have no issues with holding a heavier and bigger lens but my gimbal (Crane M3) wont be able to handle such payload hence having to settle with the Sigma. I'm really keen on seeing how you work with the footage coming from the ZV-E10 and Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 for low light scenarios. I was honestly surprised to see less noise than I anticipated. Thanks for the review also, very useful stuff right here.
@@dingleberry1242 Thank you, low light is all about proper exposure, I do it manually, cameras always trying to make night scenes very bright with higher ISO, I keep it low and dark as it should be.
I've got a sony 18-105 f4, 16-50 kit, and a laowa 9mm (for real estate), so I'm seriously considering this guy for that faster aperture for my wedding and concert vids on my a6400. Been comparing this to primes to see if the extra aperture is worth it or if bumping the iso with 2.8 would suffice and you've shown that it can definitely get the job done Makin me harshly consider this over the primes. Thanks for the video. Love your work
IThanks, 'm glad it was helpful. For shooting events zooms are the best, there is often no time for changing lenses and this one is very compact too which helps on long shoots :)
was this all filmed with the ZV-E10? best quality video from this camera i've seen. Really want this lens but also want the sigma 16mm and a wide angle too lol
If you're talking about footage of me talking and broll then it's shot with my main camera BMPCC 6k :D If you want check only footage with zv-e10 then check 2 video tests on my channel :)
i just got my zv-e10 with the kit lens for daily vlogging, and maybe some cinematic shots with the catalyst browse. tempted to buy this over sigma 16mm, but.. 18mm of this vs 16mm of kit lens? wider is better. Yeah it has constant apperture, but you dont really care about aperture changing when vlogging. and for low light, ill just use the sigma 16mm. what do you think?
For walk and talk vlogging sigma 16 or Samyang 12 f2 seems to be the best options in my opinion :) With longer selfie stick you could get away with 18mm too, depends what look you like etc. Of course with wide prime you loose ability to zoom for some close ups so it depends on your needs :)
I am deciding upon the first lens to buy for my first camera, which is Sony a 6600 and I keep switching between Sigma 1850 and Tamron 1770. The advantage of Sigma is clearly the size and price, whereas the Tamron is giving me extra focal length and vibration compensation for some extra money which is not a problem for me. The main issue I have is since this is my first camera and I am starting out, I am afraid if I buy a heavier setup I might be less reluctant to get out and shoot which is ultimately very bad for photography. Any photography, whether someone is starting out or someone is a professional I guess. The Sigma being smaller will encourage me to shoot more. But this Tamron being stabilized and with longer focal length will give me better shots and more composition options. Let's see which side I move on to. Ultimately, as I'm still going through UA-cam reviews and comparisons. I hope. To see more videos and maybe if you can arrange a Tamron 1770, perhaps you could do a comparison with this Sigma 1850. Is it possible? Thanks for this video. By the way. It made me lean a little more towards the Sigma.
You're welcome. I don't have access to Tamron unfortunetly, I bought Sigma with my own money so I can only compare them from what I saw in reviews. The question is what are you plan to shoot? I personally didn't need that much reach, I don't shoot wild life etc. I prefer wide angles, so 50mm on the long end is enough for me and if I need more reach I can always turn on active stabilization which will give me more crop and stable footage :) From what I heard stabilization is not that great on Tamron so I wouldn't focus on that but more on a size and reach when deciding between those two.
HI. Love the video. A question. have the 6500 and the same lense but when im on target on focus and i try to zoom in or out it looses its focus!! Why? In your video at 4:00 mark when zooming from 18 to 50 your one is all ways in focus! Are there any settings i need ? Thanxs
So you don't think the lack of OIS is a problem especially for video filming? the f1.4 in the video just pops - you think I should just buy 2 separate lenses instead, if my key interest is in video filming making?
It's not a problem for me, I use Catalyst browse if I need to add stabilization, but it all depends what and how you're planning to shoot. It will be different for example if you're using it for jobs once a week and different for daily vlogging, I'm not doing walking vlogs often so I don't mind using stabilization in post or gimbal if I need to. Most of the time I use this camera on a tripod to record my dance trainings so I really don't care about stabilization.
Great review. I have a question though. SInce most of my project will be uploaded on social media (insta & tiktok). Would you recommend shooting in 30fps? (although I'm shooting in 24fps currently) How will frame rate affect the quality of the video? I'm using the same camera and lens as in your video now.
I'm not doing a lot of photos but I personally used a6000 before with no stabilzation at all and I never felt that I need one for photos. Maybe if you plan to shoot in low light situations then it could be useful but other than that I personally would not pay attention to it.
None of my lenses have oss, I use different techniques and try to shoot as stable as I can, with zv e10 I can also use catalyst browse to stabilize my footage in post.
It depends on what you are shooting, zoom is always more versitile but if you are ok with only one wide angle focal lenght then prime might be enough for you. Give me more details what you are planning to shoot and I will try to help you choose.
Hmm I used sigma 18-35 1.8 with mc11 adapter and it was great for MF, just big and noisy in terms of AF. I use it all the time with my pocket 6k now. I didn't use tamron so I don't know for sure if it's focus by wire, I would guess it is. Maybe Sony 16-55 is better but I'm not sure you need to check the specs and it's more expensive.
Depends on your needs, if you want zoom then yes it's nice and small. Lenses aren't getting old fast like cameras. Although I still prefer prime lenses over zooms, but it's a personal choice that is good for my style of shooting.
Thanks for the review and I'm little confused which lens good for dance videos? Sigma 16 or 18-50mm or Sony kit lens? Please tell me because your a dancer so u know!
It depends what exactly you want to shoot and what style. For my dance trainings I use mostly 16mm because I can capture more with wide angle lens. Zoom will be better if you want to shoot whole dance clip with both wide shots and close ups.
Pretty helpful! Been wondering whether it’s worth it going all the way for the Tamron 17-70 or this super compact Sigma. I think if it was a 16-50 it’d be a killer lens. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I'm glad that it's useful! I personally don't need more than 50mm and I already have Sigma 16 so I don't miss more reach that much, but that might be different for someone else :) Size is definetly the strongest point of this lens, it's more fun to use, althou for proffesional work Tamron might be worth investing depends on what you are shooting :)
@@VilkanVisions Ha.. I think you just answered my question. I'm getting ready to shoot a documentary, and I was torn between these two lenses, and so I think I'm going to spend the extra couple of hundred dollars and get the Tamron. Extra reach. Stability. My Weebill S can handle it. Better way to go you think?
@@zakiradi450 turns out that both of those lenses work on my Weebill s, so it's all good. And the reason I use the Tamron sometimes with a gimbal is because sometimes that's the only lens I take with me. But you're right, in general, the sigma is a much better choice to throw on a gimbal, and I only put the Tamron on there if I absolutely have to. If somebody asks me to. :-) I usually only use primes with a gimbal.
I want to shoot wedding videos and photos as well shoot documentaries and short films, I am on a tight budget, will you recommend Sony Zve10 ii with sigma 18-50mm for a start up which can cover these ?
For me personally f4 is not enough snd I don't shoot s lot on the longer end so I choose this one all day but it might be different for you. It depends what you plan to shoot 🙂
@@VilkanVisions same, i also thought that f4 is not enough, but to have that wide focal range is something that i need. Then i saw some reviewer’s said that 18-105 lens is not that sharp. So basically i just traded the kit lens with more focal length.
hey vilkan! being a dancer/travel cinematography enthusiast, which lens would be the most practical purchase if i could have only one lens for the zve10; would it be the tamron 11-20 f2.8 , or sigma 16 mm f1.4 or sigma 18-50 f2.8? idk whether i should choose the versatile range or the faster aperture. let me know what you’d do!
It's not an easy choise because for travel I would choose 18-50 and for dance videos 16 :D It also depends how and what exactly are you shooting, 18mm at 2.8 on that zoom could be enough for your type of dacing videos, I just prefer a little wider focal lenght for my style. In good lighting 2.8 is enough :)
Thanks, a great video indeed!! Well I have the Sony ZV E-10 camera however I have bought an used Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC MACRO for Sony A Mount from eBay, so just want to check if that would fit the camera and how would that perform in the camera provided it has a different mount.
In low light 1.4 aperture will give you better results for sure, in normal light they will both perform very good. It also depends if we compare them at wide open or stopped down to the same f stop. If it comes to sharpness etc. then I didn't make tests so I can't tell for sure and even if I did then it would not be scientific because my 16mm is 3 years old. For me they are both good enough if it comes to quality 🙂
I'm not a big fan of gimbals and I don't use them very often, but I got two gimbals one old FeiyuTech A1000, it's a cheap gimbal it works but I would not recommend it, it's better to buy one with more capacity, second one is Moza Air 2 that I got for my bmpcc 6k and it's ok but probably too big for small camera like zv-e10.
@@VilkanVisions thank you. if not gimbals than how do you stabilize moving shots following an actor. i know professionals use steadicams but for small mirorrless cameras i don't see another way.
Great video man. Can you please make a comparison between the 18-50mm vs 16mm 1.4 for bokeh and other features. I'm really confused which one to get. Please 😇
Thank you, I did some comparisons with 16mm in this video, what you want to know exactly? It's very subjective choice so it depends on what you plan to shoot, I use them for different tasks.
@@VilkanVisions Actually I want to shoot cinematic landscapes, b-roll's that kind of stuff. Also I want to check the bokeh for vlogging. I mean a detailed comparison between 16mm 1.4 and the 18mm(wide) end of the 18-50mm with zve10. That would be very helpful. thanks 👍🏾
Samyang 12 seems to be a cool lens especially for vlogging and landscape, I would like to have it too but I know I would not use that wide lens often so 16 is enough for me 🙂
Depends on how quickly you're doing it, if you're zooming like I did in this video then it's ok, when zooming very fast then it can be not perfect but with regular speed it's good enough I think 🙂
I’m thinking about using this camera and lens to film in a dimly lit pool room with lights directly above each pool table. I play pool competitively and I’d like to film my matches from a tripod for 3+ hours at a time with an added vertical battery grip. What do you think?
Looks like you don't need to change focal length often so for that I would consider prime lenses, just choose the one that fits your needs, I recommend sigma 16, 23 or sony 15 if you want wider shots.
@@VilkanVisions Being able to change the focal length would be nice considering I may not be able to get the perfect distance away from the table due to space and a variety of different pool rooms. That’s why I thought the 18-50 would be great. And if this is the case, would it be worth it to get that lens or just stick with the 16-50 kit lens that comes with it?
I have a ZV-E10 as my main cam, paired with a Viltrox 23mm F1.4 lens, i have another lenses like Helios 44M-4 but i miss 35mm focal lens. I'm planning to get the Tanrom 17-70mm, my another upgrade is the Sony FX30 and my ZV-E10 will be my B Cam. Do you recommend the Sigma 18-50mm over the Tanrom 17-70mm? Considering the price range between this two lenses.
It depends what's more important to you - 50-70mm range of Tamron or small size of Sigma. I shoot more on a wide end so 50mm was enough for me 🙂. For docs more reach can be useful.
@@VilkanVisions how its performance in lowlight... If i do vlogs, cinematic shots, parties etc.... So confused between 16mm and 18_50 mm.... Pls pls clear it ❤
this is an amazing review. keep them coming. love how your reviews are so different from others. also, being a dancer myself, i was planning to get the ZVE10 as my first camera to top up my social media content quality (on a budget ) and for my first lens, i am having a tough time choosing between the sigma 16mm and the 18-50mm. i record myself usually on a tripod, outdoors 90% of the time. i'd definitely like to be able to film in the night in the city with the neon street lights. i also do short travel films as well on some occasions. so if i choose the 18-50 f2.8 will i be losing out on lowlight capabilities? because your low light examples have me thinking otherwise. u really pulled off lowlight well with the f2.8 lens. so do i really need the 1.4 if i want lowlight or is the 2.8 good enough? i don't know if should sacrifice range or sacrifice low light capabilities :/ do let me know what you'd pick if you were in my situation as you're an amazing dancer as well 😁 cheers!
Thank you! It's a tough choice, for dance videos like you decribed I would go with Sigma 16mm and for travel videos 18-50mm, so you have to choose what is more important to you and what you plan to do more often :) If I record my dance I prefer to take my 16mm and for traveling and family photos I take 18-50. Of course 2.8 is not bad for low light but you wil still get better results with 1.4 lens and I also prefer wider lenses for recording dance moves :)
@@VilkanVisions aghhhh i know that i couldn't go wrong with either lens but having to choose is so hard. i could maybe pick the sigma 16 and make do with the 16-50 kit lens until i build up more of a budget i guess! eitherways, if i go with the sigma 16 prime, then does the clear image zoom feature in the zve10 give a descent zoom range for video? and also have you been able to crack your way in with getting better footage out of the zve10 kit lens? if so please do share your settings and methods for them too! loving all the zve10 content! thank u once again!
Clear image zoom is 1.5x so it's usable but of course you will not get the same results like with optical zoom. I bought zv-e10 body only without kit lens, but I did use it with my a6000 couple years ago, with good lighting it's good enough. Here's the link to my old travel video with a6000 and kit lens: ua-cam.com/video/ZlESERVMqQQ/v-deo.html
@@VilkanVisions great! also, when you film yourself dancing, do you use manual focus or autofocus? does a dancer need autofocus to get the blurry background?
To zależy co i jak się kręci, czy z ręki, na statywie, czy na gimbalu. Zakładając, że chodzi o kręcenie z ręki to ogólnie są dwie opcje, stabilizacja Catalyst Browse w postprodukcji - bardzo dobre efekty, ale trzeba poświęcić dodatkowy czas na renderowanie. Druga opcja to stabilizcja w kamerze, ale jest spory crop więc trzeba używać szerszych obiektywów. Ja stabilizuje w CB jak kręce z ręki i mi to wystarcza, zwłaszcza przy dobrej technice.
You can try to stabilize in Catalyst Browse that is what I prefer instead of in-camera stabilization. How do you hold the camera on selfie stick/tripod, strap? Technique is very important.
he says the camera doesnt have image stabilization??? doesn't it have electronic image stabilization? which does a really good job. i checked out a video from "Arthur R Sony Stabilization: IBIS vs EIS vs Gimbal" and the camera replaces a gimnal for most types of work.
I have a very cheap solution to very steady handheld footage: just buy a ceramic brick or concrete brick and stick your camera to it. Or anything heavy... The key is weight, that's all. That's why those film cameras are so steady. I caried a 35kg Arri535 for years...
Yeah that's nothing new, I have a heavy rig for my Blackmagic Cinema camera but most people buy zve10 for things like vlogging so they want their camera as light as possible 🙂
Thanks for the review! The focal length and aperture comparisons to other lenses are very much appreciated - not something I have seen in other reviews.
You're welcome, that was my goal to make something that I would like to see myself that other reviews don't show 😀
This channel is a gold mine! Brilliant! Keep up the great work. You are covering topics which huge part of audience is interested in... And that is getting quality footage with (non full frame cameras). So a big thank you. And best wishes 👍🏻
Thank you very much, this motivates me to make new videos 😃
I especially liked your night shot comparisons. Thank you.
You're welcome!
I had to subscribe. This video, is not just a review, but also a work of art and showing what possibilities one can create. I have a 6000 and trying decide in Tamron 17-70 and this one. Stunning shots, color is rich and full, image, quality. Makes me think if I rush out and buy, I too can have results like this. Great work, excellent presentation. Thank you as I shop for my one lens that covers most all my needs
Thank You very much I really appreciate that!
Glad I found this channel! 🔥🔥💥
I'm happy to hear that 🙏🙏
Already have it, but always nice to see comparisons and reviews to validate my purchase. Great job! 👍
Thank you very much 🙂
Did you compare it to sigma 1.4?
Brilliant review! Thanks!
I'm happy to hear that!
Duuuuuude..... this is the video I needed. Comparing the 16mm to this lens at 18mm.
I'm glad that it's helpful, I always try to do video that I would like to see myself 🙂
4:40 is Sigma 1.4 starting to fall apart during the low light? I thought it would perform better. 18-50 looks more pleasing and sharper.
Not exaclty, it was hard scenerio for AF, low light, back lit and slog3 so they both have hard time to choose what to focus on, but if you have faster lens then less will be in focus, with 2.8 even if it misses focus it's more forgivable because more will be in focus. I should set my focus area on left-upper part of the image then there would be no issues like that but I was in hurry and didn't thoght about that :)
Thanks man. Very nice tests and work
I'm glad you like it 🙂
Perfect comparison for my upcoming purchase choice and this lens looks like a winner!
I'm glad it was helpful 🙂
Thank you so much for this video. Really helpful to help decide.
l'm happy to hear that!
6:07 ok so there is a lot of difference between f1.4 and 2.8 in low light. Might think of getting a low aperture lens as my next thing for my ZV-E10
Yes there is a difference, primes are usually better in low light :)
these are really great and helpful comparisons, with the Sigma 1.4 - just what I needed, thanks a lot and you have a pretty model:)
I'm glad to hear that it's useful! Yes, she's pretty, otherwise I wouldn't have married her 😄
I was debating on getting the Tamron or the Sigma for my ZV-E10 as well. I have no issues with holding a heavier and bigger lens but my gimbal (Crane M3) wont be able to handle such payload hence having to settle with the Sigma.
I'm really keen on seeing how you work with the footage coming from the ZV-E10 and Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 for low light scenarios. I was honestly surprised to see less noise than I anticipated.
Thanks for the review also, very useful stuff right here.
@@dingleberry1242 Thank you, low light is all about proper exposure, I do it manually, cameras always trying to make night scenes very bright with higher ISO, I keep it low and dark as it should be.
Very structured and comprehensive review!!
I'm glad you like it!
I'm glad you like it!
Very good video. Helped me a lot in making a choice. Thank you!
You're welcome!
Which one you suggest, SIGMA18-50mm or 16mm F1.4 (For commercial videography) ???
If it's run&gun with no time to switch lenses then zoom is useful, if you have more time then I would prefer Sigma primes - 16 and 30/56.
@@VilkanVisions thanks
I've got a sony 18-105 f4, 16-50 kit, and a laowa 9mm (for real estate), so I'm seriously considering this guy for that faster aperture for my wedding and concert vids on my a6400. Been comparing this to primes to see if the extra aperture is worth it or if bumping the iso with 2.8 would suffice and you've shown that it can definitely get the job done Makin me harshly consider this over the primes. Thanks for the video. Love your work
IThanks, 'm glad it was helpful. For shooting events zooms are the best, there is often no time for changing lenses and this one is very compact too which helps on long shoots :)
was this all filmed with the ZV-E10? best quality video from this camera i've seen. Really want this lens but also want the sigma 16mm and a wide angle too lol
If you're talking about footage of me talking and broll then it's shot with my main camera BMPCC 6k :D If you want check only footage with zv-e10 then check 2 video tests on my channel :)
i just got my zv-e10 with the kit lens for daily vlogging, and maybe some cinematic shots with the catalyst browse.
tempted to buy this over sigma 16mm, but.. 18mm of this vs 16mm of kit lens? wider is better. Yeah it has constant apperture, but you dont really care about aperture changing when vlogging.
and for low light, ill just use the sigma 16mm.
what do you think?
For walk and talk vlogging sigma 16 or Samyang 12 f2 seems to be the best options in my opinion :) With longer selfie stick you could get away with 18mm too, depends what look you like etc. Of course with wide prime you loose ability to zoom for some close ups so it depends on your needs :)
I am deciding upon the first lens to buy for my first camera, which is Sony a 6600 and I keep switching between Sigma 1850 and Tamron 1770. The advantage of Sigma is clearly the size and price, whereas the Tamron is giving me extra focal length and vibration compensation for some extra money which is not a problem for me. The main issue I have is since this is my first camera and I am starting out, I am afraid if I buy a heavier setup I might be less reluctant to get out and shoot which is ultimately very bad for photography. Any photography, whether someone is starting out or someone is a professional I guess. The Sigma being smaller will encourage me to shoot more. But this Tamron being stabilized and with longer focal length will give me better shots and more composition options. Let's see which side I move on to. Ultimately, as I'm still going through UA-cam reviews and comparisons. I hope. To see more videos and maybe if you can arrange a Tamron 1770, perhaps you could do a comparison with this Sigma 1850. Is it possible? Thanks for this video. By the way. It made me lean a little more towards the Sigma.
You're welcome. I don't have access to Tamron unfortunetly, I bought Sigma with my own money so I can only compare them from what I saw in reviews. The question is what are you plan to shoot? I personally didn't need that much reach, I don't shoot wild life etc. I prefer wide angles, so 50mm on the long end is enough for me and if I need more reach I can always turn on active stabilization which will give me more crop and stable footage :) From what I heard stabilization is not that great on Tamron so I wouldn't focus on that but more on a size and reach when deciding between those two.
HI. Love the video. A question. have the 6500 and the same lense but when im on target on focus and i try to zoom in or out it looses its focus!! Why? In your video at 4:00 mark when zooming from 18 to 50 your one is all ways in focus! Are there any settings i need ? Thanxs
Hey Vilkan, is the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 will be enough to create some moves? what your recommendation?
Sure why not, ~f2.8 is one of the most used in hollywood movies so it's plenty enough especially with good lighting :)
I am really interested to know what are your color grading workflow are, the color are amazing!
Thanks! Whole series on Color Grading is on my list but you need to be patient because I got some things to do first :)
@@VilkanVisions Thanks man, I will be here waiting
Nice review again, thank you! :)
You're welcome!
Great review. Nicely done. Subbed.
Thanks, I'm glad you like it 🙂
So you don't think the lack of OIS is a problem especially for video filming? the f1.4 in the video just pops - you think I should just buy 2 separate lenses instead, if my key interest is in video filming making?
It's not a problem for me, I use Catalyst browse if I need to add stabilization, but it all depends what and how you're planning to shoot. It will be different for example if you're using it for jobs once a week and different for daily vlogging, I'm not doing walking vlogs often so I don't mind using stabilization in post or gimbal if I need to. Most of the time I use this camera on a tripod to record my dance trainings so I really don't care about stabilization.
Great review. I have a question though. SInce most of my project will be uploaded on social media (insta & tiktok). Would you recommend shooting in 30fps? (although I'm shooting in 24fps currently) How will frame rate affect the quality of the video? I'm using the same camera and lens as in your video now.
@@TomAto-g4x Thanks, if it comes to fps it's your choice what effect you want to achive, quality will not be much different
What about stabilization for photography? It’s good enough for zve10? Thank you for your answer.
I'm not doing a lot of photos but I personally used a6000 before with no stabilzation at all and I never felt that I need one for photos. Maybe if you plan to shoot in low light situations then it could be useful but other than that I personally would not pay attention to it.
Hi, how do you stabilize your footage since sigma lens don't have oss
None of my lenses have oss, I use different techniques and try to shoot as stable as I can, with zv e10 I can also use catalyst browse to stabilize my footage in post.
Is it better to have one sigma 16mm 1.4 or this 18-55 2.8?
It depends on what you are shooting, zoom is always more versitile but if you are ok with only one wide angle focal lenght then prime might be enough for you. Give me more details what you are planning to shoot and I will try to help you choose.
so what would you recommend if I plan to play with manual focus and real filmmaking? tamron 17-70?
Hmm I used sigma 18-35 1.8 with mc11 adapter and it was great for MF, just big and noisy in terms of AF. I use it all the time with my pocket 6k now. I didn't use tamron so I don't know for sure if it's focus by wire, I would guess it is. Maybe Sony 16-55 is better but I'm not sure you need to check the specs and it's more expensive.
Am thinking of getting zv e10 with this lens. You think its still worth it or are there Better option in market ?
Depends on your needs, if you want zoom then yes it's nice and small. Lenses aren't getting old fast like cameras. Although I still prefer prime lenses over zooms, but it's a personal choice that is good for my style of shooting.
Thanks for the review and I'm little confused which lens good for dance videos? Sigma 16 or 18-50mm or Sony kit lens? Please tell me because your a dancer so u know!
It depends what exactly you want to shoot and what style. For my dance trainings I use mostly 16mm because I can capture more with wide angle lens. Zoom will be better if you want to shoot whole dance clip with both wide shots and close ups.
Great video again man❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks man!
thanks for the review
You're welcome 🙂
Pretty helpful! Been wondering whether it’s worth it going all the way for the Tamron 17-70 or this super compact Sigma. I think if it was a 16-50 it’d be a killer lens. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I'm glad that it's useful! I personally don't need more than 50mm and I already have Sigma 16 so I don't miss more reach that much, but that might be different for someone else :) Size is definetly the strongest point of this lens, it's more fun to use, althou for proffesional work Tamron might be worth investing depends on what you are shooting :)
@@VilkanVisions Ha.. I think you just answered my question. I'm getting ready to shoot a documentary, and I was torn between these two lenses, and so I think I'm going to spend the extra couple of hundred dollars and get the Tamron. Extra reach. Stability. My Weebill S can handle it. Better way to go you think?
@@RockWILK on a gimbal, Sigma any day. why would you go for Tamron on a gimbal?
@@zakiradi450 turns out that both of those lenses work on my Weebill s, so it's all good. And the reason I use the Tamron sometimes with a gimbal is because sometimes that's the only lens I take with me. But you're right, in general, the sigma is a much better choice to throw on a gimbal, and I only put the Tamron on there if I absolutely have to. If somebody asks me to. :-) I usually only use primes with a gimbal.
I want to shoot wedding videos and photos as well shoot documentaries and short films, I am on a tight budget, will you recommend Sony Zve10 ii with sigma 18-50mm for a start up which can cover these ?
Considered the focal range and the aperture, this lens or sony 18-105?
For me personally f4 is not enough snd I don't shoot s lot on the longer end so I choose this one all day but it might be different for you. It depends what you plan to shoot 🙂
@@VilkanVisions same, i also thought that f4 is not enough, but to have that wide focal range is something that i need. Then i saw some reviewer’s said that 18-105 lens is not that sharp. So basically i just traded the kit lens with more focal length.
hey vilkan! being a dancer/travel cinematography enthusiast, which lens would be the most practical purchase if i could have only one lens for the zve10; would it be the tamron 11-20 f2.8 , or sigma 16 mm f1.4 or sigma 18-50 f2.8?
idk whether i should choose the versatile range or the faster aperture. let me know what you’d do!
It's not an easy choise because for travel I would choose 18-50 and for dance videos 16 :D It also depends how and what exactly are you shooting, 18mm at 2.8 on that zoom could be enough for your type of dacing videos, I just prefer a little wider focal lenght for my style. In good lighting 2.8 is enough :)
My zv-e10 videos are so grainy even at F2 ISO 320 in low light. How did you edit your videos to be so clean?
The key is to use ETTR technique I talk about that in my "Slog3 with an 8bit camera..." video
Thanks, a great video indeed!! Well I have the Sony ZV E-10 camera however I have bought an used Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC MACRO for Sony A Mount from eBay, so just want to check if that would fit the camera and how would that perform in the camera provided it has a different mount.
You should return that lens and buy emount lens, you would have to get adapter for A mount and it would not work very well.
@@VilkanVisions Thanks for the response. Appreciate it
Is sigma 16 mm better or this one in image quality
Except that zoom feature which would you say the better
In low light 1.4 aperture will give you better results for sure, in normal light they will both perform very good. It also depends if we compare them at wide open or stopped down to the same f stop. If it comes to sharpness etc. then I didn't make tests so I can't tell for sure and even if I did then it would not be scientific because my 16mm is 3 years old. For me they are both good enough if it comes to quality 🙂
@@VilkanVisions Thank you very much for your guidance 😊🙏🏻
great video, thank you!
great review.
I'm glad You like it 😃
Best review!
Thanks🙏
i really wanna buy the zv e10 with sigma 16mm but i can't find a gimbal that works best with this setup. did you test some gimbals on this combo?
I'm not a big fan of gimbals and I don't use them very often, but I got two gimbals one old FeiyuTech A1000, it's a cheap gimbal it works but I would not recommend it, it's better to buy one with more capacity, second one is Moza Air 2 that I got for my bmpcc 6k and it's ok but probably too big for small camera like zv-e10.
@@VilkanVisions thank you. if not gimbals than how do you stabilize moving shots following an actor. i know professionals use steadicams but for small mirorrless cameras i don't see another way.
great video my frien
thank you!
Great video man. Can you please make a comparison between the 18-50mm vs 16mm 1.4 for bokeh and other features. I'm really confused which one to get. Please 😇
Thank you, I did some comparisons with 16mm in this video, what you want to know exactly? It's very subjective choice so it depends on what you plan to shoot, I use them for different tasks.
@@VilkanVisions Actually I want to shoot cinematic landscapes, b-roll's that kind of stuff. Also I want to check the bokeh for vlogging. I mean a detailed comparison between 16mm 1.4 and the 18mm(wide) end of the 18-50mm with zve10. That would be very helpful. thanks 👍🏾
If this had been a 16-50mm It would be on my camera for sure. But I won't be adding this one. Good review!
Thanks, I understand that, I have Sigma 16 so I got that covered 🙂
@@VilkanVisions I got the Samyang 12mm AF to supplement the kit. 16mm Sigma is on my list.
Samyang 12 seems to be a cool lens especially for vlogging and landscape, I would like to have it too but I know I would not use that wide lens often so 16 is enough for me 🙂
How do i change setting to use actual aperture ring ? (Left/right)
Using sigma 18-50 mm and zve 1
Thanks
Can you please test if this lens can hold focus while zooming in and out ? just like par focus
Depends on how quickly you're doing it, if you're zooming like I did in this video then it's ok, when zooming very fast then it can be not perfect but with regular speed it's good enough I think 🙂
@@VilkanVisions thank you
I only do photography have the 30mm and getting the 16mm, at night which I do quite a bit its all perfect.
Those are all great lenses and they are good for different scenarios 🙂
Great video! One small detail though…it only has 7 rounded diaphragm blades not 9…
Thanks! Of course you are right, I didn't notice this mistake, I was copy & paste template from another video and I forgot to change it :)
I’m thinking about using this camera and lens to film in a dimly lit pool room with lights directly above each pool table. I play pool competitively and I’d like to film my matches from a tripod for 3+ hours at a time with an added vertical battery grip. What do you think?
Looks like you don't need to change focal length often so for that I would consider prime lenses, just choose the one that fits your needs, I recommend sigma 16, 23 or sony 15 if you want wider shots.
@@VilkanVisions Being able to change the focal length would be nice considering I may not be able to get the perfect distance away from the table due to space and a variety of different pool rooms. That’s why I thought the 18-50 would be great. And if this is the case, would it be worth it to get that lens or just stick with the 16-50 kit lens that comes with it?
18-50 2.8 would be much better of course especially for low light 🙂
@@VilkanVisions Sweet. Thanks!
Great video!
Thanks 🙂
Bro did wide angle makes distortion like prime lens ?
Thanks for video
You're welcome!
I have a ZV-E10 as my main cam, paired with a Viltrox 23mm F1.4 lens, i have another lenses like Helios 44M-4 but i miss 35mm focal lens.
I'm planning to get the Tanrom 17-70mm, my another upgrade is the Sony FX30 and my ZV-E10 will be my B Cam. Do you recommend the Sigma 18-50mm over the Tanrom 17-70mm? Considering the price range between this two lenses.
I'm a documentary filmmaker and i want a good lens with good quality to shoot in "guerrilla mode"...
It depends what's more important to you - 50-70mm range of Tamron or small size of Sigma. I shoot more on a wide end so 50mm was enough for me 🙂. For docs more reach can be useful.
I want to purchase this lens soon
I'm sure you will like it!
pls can u suggest me best lens for zve10......am a beginner , i need only one lens in which i shoot videos nd photos .
If you want only one lens for everything then this sigma 18-50 will be great for starting out.
@@VilkanVisions how its performance in lowlight... If i do vlogs, cinematic shots, parties etc....
So confused between 16mm and 18_50 mm.... Pls pls clear it ❤
@@Mrdoc25 I think it's good enough, there is no one lens for everything so of course primes will usually perform better in low light.
@@VilkanVisions thanks a lot ❤... Definetly ill subscribe uh...
Great review!
thank you 🙏
What's the extra grip mount you have for the ZV-E10?
I use Smallrig cage with grip, I highly recommend it, much better in hands :)
nice vid. great music!
Thank you very much!
this is an amazing review. keep them coming. love how your reviews are so different from others. also, being a dancer myself, i was planning to get the ZVE10 as my first camera to top up my social media content quality (on a budget ) and for my first lens, i am having a tough time choosing between the sigma 16mm and the 18-50mm. i record myself usually on a tripod, outdoors 90% of the time. i'd definitely like to be able to film in the night in the city with the neon street lights. i also do short travel films as well on some occasions. so if i choose the 18-50 f2.8 will i be losing out on lowlight capabilities? because your low light examples have me thinking otherwise. u really pulled off lowlight well with the f2.8 lens. so do i really need the 1.4 if i want lowlight or is the 2.8 good enough?
i don't know if should sacrifice range or sacrifice low light capabilities :/
do let me know what you'd pick if you were in my situation as you're an amazing dancer as well 😁
cheers!
Thank you! It's a tough choice, for dance videos like you decribed I would go with Sigma 16mm and for travel videos 18-50mm, so you have to choose what is more important to you and what you plan to do more often :) If I record my dance I prefer to take my 16mm and for traveling and family photos I take 18-50. Of course 2.8 is not bad for low light but you wil still get better results with 1.4 lens and I also prefer wider lenses for recording dance moves :)
@@VilkanVisions aghhhh i know that i couldn't go wrong with either lens but having to choose is so hard. i could maybe pick the sigma 16 and make do with the 16-50 kit lens until i build up more of a budget i guess! eitherways, if i go with the sigma 16 prime, then does the clear image zoom feature in the zve10 give a descent zoom range for video? and also have you been able to crack your way in with getting better footage out of the zve10 kit lens? if so please do share your settings and methods for them too!
loving all the zve10 content! thank u once again!
Clear image zoom is 1.5x so it's usable but of course you will not get the same results like with optical zoom. I bought zv-e10 body only without kit lens, but I did use it with my a6000 couple years ago, with good lighting it's good enough.
Here's the link to my old travel video with a6000 and kit lens: ua-cam.com/video/ZlESERVMqQQ/v-deo.html
@@VilkanVisions great! also, when you film yourself dancing, do you use manual focus or autofocus? does a dancer need autofocus to get the blurry background?
@@baileysokeu9465 it depends what f stop and focal length you're using but for blurry background I would recommend AF for filming yourself.
A jak ze stabilizacją w takim zestawie? Myślisz, że to wystarczy jako pierwsza kamera do pierwszych projektów?
To zależy co i jak się kręci, czy z ręki, na statywie, czy na gimbalu. Zakładając, że chodzi o kręcenie z ręki to ogólnie są dwie opcje, stabilizacja Catalyst Browse w postprodukcji - bardzo dobre efekty, ale trzeba poświęcić dodatkowy czas na renderowanie. Druga opcja to stabilizcja w kamerze, ale jest spory crop więc trzeba używać szerszych obiektywów. Ja stabilizuje w CB jak kręce z ręki i mi to wystarcza, zwłaszcza przy dobrej technice.
Dobra recenzja. Muzyczka tez dobra, brat ma talent :D
Dzięki wielkie :)
❤❤
🙏🙏
Brother please tell me it is better than Sigma 30 mm reply soon please
It really depends on what you plan to shoot, different tools for different jobs 🙂
I just have bought a zve10 + 18-50mm sigma. The image is shaking a lot I mean deforming. Even with auto stabilization.
You can try to stabilize in Catalyst Browse that is what I prefer instead of in-camera stabilization. How do you hold the camera on selfie stick/tripod, strap? Technique is very important.
he says the camera doesnt have image stabilization??? doesn't it have electronic image stabilization? which does a really good job. i checked out a video from "Arthur R Sony Stabilization: IBIS vs EIS vs Gimbal" and the camera replaces a gimnal for most types of work.
This is review of Sigma 18-50 lens not a camera. The lens doesn't have image stabilization.
how to remove noise from the image?
You're asking how to avoid it in camera or in post production?
Thx. Nice review. I havent want to buy it, but you have fueled a bit my GAS :).
hahaha thanks, looks like Sigma should pay me for this review XD
I have a very cheap solution to very steady handheld footage: just buy a ceramic brick or concrete brick and stick your camera to it. Or anything heavy... The key is weight, that's all. That's why those film cameras are so steady. I caried a 35kg Arri535 for years...
Yeah that's nothing new, I have a heavy rig for my Blackmagic Cinema camera but most people buy zve10 for things like vlogging so they want their camera as light as possible 🙂
Buen video
🙏🙏🙏
I surprised me that David De Gea become a film maker 😅✌
Sorry I don't know what you are talking about and who is that person😅
This vs 16mm f1.4 and 30mm f1.4
It depends, different tools, I prefer primes.