I waited 20 years to own a brand new Scotty, I’ll tell you this.... the set up and eye appeal is there and it just feels good, which breads confidence. Well worth it to me 👍
Bought my 1st scotty last year and yes they r very expensive but the craftsmanship and feel of that putter is amazing. 1 of my best decisions ever. Absolutely love it
I use a Scotty Cameron Newport 2 putter and it’s given me such confidence. My Driving may be a struggle but my putting, even as a high handicapper is probably the best part of my game.
I’ve had my Scotty Cameron for more than 10 yrs. I’ve used others in between during putting difficulties but I always go back to the Scotty. I realised its not the putter but the shit on the end of it!
about two weeks ago i went to a golf-shop to buy a new shirt.. I saw some Evnroll putters there, and given that i had never had the chance to test them before, I gave them a try. A few minutes in, one of the salesmen (no older than 18) came in and said "with your stroke you should use a putter with a different toe hang".. we did a fitting with about 15 different putters and my final choice was between the Spider Tour and a Scotty, with the Spider tour making much closer groups, so i bought it (and a superstroke grip).. I'm very happy with having done the fitting and the knowledge of the kid was great. yesterday I made my first birdie on a specific par 5 hole, after holing a 10 meter put.. moral of the story: buy shirts online, else you'll spend a few hundred on new equipment :P i am truly happy with the fitted putter though ;)
Cameron putters are great. Bottom line is how a person feels about the putter. I've been using the same Cameron putter for 25 years. Thanks for the review.
For I don't remember how many years, I have been using a Scotty Cameron Studio Style Newport 1.5, US 150 on eBay. Like new. It has a serial number, so not likely a knockoff. Putt just fine with it. Rolled in two long ones yesterday. Buy one Scotty and forget about it. Classic style looks so good behind the ball.
A golf buddy of mine longed for a Bettinardi putter - prices to make your eyes water. But she tried an Oddesey putter and she loved it. The price was half that of the Bettinardi and very nice it is too. Pick whichever putter which gives you the belief in yourself or it becomes a very expensive metal stick which you can stoke the fire with...
The only bad thing about your test, is you learned off your first try with the Taylormade. Start with the Scotty Cameron on a different lie and see if it comes out the same
Agreed. My putter is from the 70's, paint is falling off but I make 30 putts for 18 holes with it. I have tried that SC putter but for me the grip is too big and it goes a tad faster than mine.But I doubt I will ever buy another putter ;-)
A friend of mine summed this up the best. He said, "I can miss a put the same with my $60 Ray Cook putter the same as my $500 Scotty Cameron putter. But this is a Scotty Cameron putter."
James, I like how you put the price of an expensive putter in perspective vs. an expensive driver. One uses the putter a whole lot more, so being confident in it is a major factor. Whether it is from S.C. or Ping or from Walmart really is irrelevant, as you pointed out. I love your content. Cheers!!
Comparing putter price vs driver price using number of shots used per round is the wrong measure. Rather use distances hit per round - much easier to hit a putter on line than a driver due to backswing length needed. Easy to hot putter on sweet spot. Need much more forgiveness /technology on a driver.
I love the feel of my Scotty. It's made me a better putter through practice. When I hit a fraction toe heel high or low I know it immediately and need to correct the flaw in my stroke.
Putting is all about green reads and distance control. If you spent a million pounds and can't read greens it's not going to help. But a someone who's good at it can make just as many with any putter they use...it's a status symbol. .driver, irons, and wedges are definitely worth the price due to game improvement tech. But putters are putters. .can't see spending that much on one if I can get one for 100 or more less.
Couldn’t agree more. Being an Aimpoint instructor myself we work on - Read - Speed - Startline. As out golden rules. People just like nice things don’t they! Thanks for reaching out. I hope your enjoying the rest of my content! ⛳️🎥🔥👍🏼
So true. Best putter I've ever had was from a company that does a travelling road show and visits town a couple of times a year. It's basically a lighter mallet and it just suits me for some reason and I putt the best I've ever putted with it. $50 brand new including a custom cover.
ok.....you go play with the misaligned shafted putter with a misaligned alignment aid that is couple centimeter that is off of the natural gravity weight of the putter. don't forget that the weight can also be heavier on one side because of the mold they made the putter from didn't come off right. but there is no quality control to fix it. you get what u pay for.
My wife bought me a Piretti putter this year and it paid for itself when I won a Cameron Newport in a putting contest at an alumni tournament. They're basically the same shape, classic Anser style and slay putts. Love the Piretti but the Cameron is nice to have around. That said I also have a Studio Fastback that I picked up essentially for free in a pawnshop set, and while initially hating it by the end of the round I was killing putts with it. So now I'm torn. Whichever one you get, best to just stick with it. Mallets vs Blades have very different feels and somewhat different strokes. Earlier this year I had one putter. Now I have like eight.
Agreed, what a great drill. I bought a Newport Special Select during the lockdown. It is better than my old Odyssey; for me yes for the confidence it allows.
A good chef never blames his tools. Same with putters. To a lesser degree, all golf clubs. I once bought a driver that was made approx 1935. It was wooden headed and had an imitation wood shaft and the old leather grip. I stripped the old varnish off the head and sanded it right back to bare wood, then put a clear gloss varnish on it and it came up looking nice!. The club cost me $5.00 but I could still out drive all my casual playing partners with it and they would all eventually wander over to my bag to check it out and I was asked constantly if it was a new graphite shafted driver, you know, something really expensive. I don't know if many believed me when I told them the truth.
Advertising is designed to part you from your cash, and Scotty Cameron putters are a good example of this. There's "one born every minute". Expensive clubs will not improve the play of hackers, but lessons might. Of course, as Lee Trevino said :- "Believe me-----it's the Indian, NOT the arrow"----and he was right.
Just bought my second Scotty Cameron and will never play another putter. Recommend looking at used. People take care of them because they are so expensive, so you can get a pretty nice one much cheaper.
That's right. And I just did just that this morning. Picked up a beautiful, lightly used California for under $200. My friends have played Scottys for a while, and I've loved the feel of every single ball I've ever struck with their clubs. I've tried a few putters over the years, and nothing's felt nearly as nice. Worth the money, imo.
Buying an expensive putter made me realise that it’s not the putter. It took the putter out of the equation and made me work harder to improve my ability. Practice is key. When I miss a putt, I no longer blame the putter.
I specifically bought a Scotty Cameron, having been led to believe they are the best, and they definitely cost the most. I was very impressed with the feel of the contact with the ball. It is as if it is an extension of your hands. Now, when I miss a putt, I think about why. Stroke too hard? Stroke too soft? Wrong line? Club face not square at impact? Rushed? Never, do I think it is the putter! Remember the adage, "A bad workman always blames his tools". So buying the best tool removes the excuse. Also remember the other adage, "The more I practice, the luckier I get"!
A scotty will stay in the bag for a decade and still hold value, the spider will be in the bag for 2years before it’s changed and be worth pennies after.
Not sure on the truth behind if it will truly sink more putts, but I had an Odyssey White Hot Pro V Line for 4 months. Face balanced, wasn't fit, just liked the look/price and bought it. Didn't feel great on the course or my putting mat with it. Sold it, went and got fit with the Quintic system. Had zero intentions of buying a Scotty, but that is what I left with. I tried a handful of putters, but styles and brands from Odyssey, Bettinardi, Ping, and Scotty. I also always liked mallets over blades. However, Quintic readings made it very clear that I was able to strike the ball the smoothest and most consistent with the Scotty so I ended up with one. I did buy it 2nd hand in 9/10 condition to save a little bit, so truly wasn't much more than the Odyssey or any other new putter at that point. Been putting on my mat for a month almost daily with it and love it!
was using a scotty california sonoma, liked it, who doesn't like scotty. happened to wander in a thrift shop, found an old copper ping b60 for $4.64, regripped it ($7.00), been in my bag for 2 years now. many scotty designs were originally ping.
My experience with putters. Bought odyssey #9. Used couple seasons didn't like the soft face insert. Loved the looks of a scotty cameron Laguna but I didn't want to pay the price. I bought an odyssey blade with black(firmer) insert. It looked like scotty cameron Laguna. Used that club for some years then wanted to try something new. I went to a putter fitting to see what they reccomend. Rolled some putts with my current odyssey putter then the fitter asked me if I was set on getting a blade. I was 96% sure I wanted a blade. Fitter handed me a Taylormade spider. Holy cow! What a difference. I was shocked how much easier it was to aim and more stable my stroke was. Turns out a face-balanced perimeter weighted putter was best for my stroke. I was somewhat in love but I still couldn't get a scotty cameron out of my mind. I don't remember the fitter having scotty cameron futura putters so I went somewhere else to check them out. I had most success with futura 6m out of all futura line. Now I had a decision to make tm spider vs sc futura 6m. They both made me more confident over the ball so that was a wash. Spider had a little bit better aim and sat better at address. But the futura 6m had alot better feel in my opinion. Which is important to me. Long story short I bought a used sc 6m for $250 and had to regrip it with stock grip which I think was $40. Scotty Cameron putters generally hold their value well from what I've seen. The scotty cameron 6m won't save anymore strokes than a tm spider would. Btw, tm spider isnt a cheap putter itself. After changing to a scotty cameron 6m and using my practice green I'm putting much better. In regards to going to a fitter vs just banging balls trying to find what works. Learning that a face-balanced perimeter weighted putter is best for me covers the $50 fitting fee. I'm not sure i would of tried a face-balanced mallet on my own. The fitter might of saved me from buying another putter that doesn't work well for my stroke. I've learned with golf, that the price of the club doesn't matter. It's more important on how the club fits your swing and what gives you more confidence when standing over the ball.
I watched Rick Shiels do a similar video. He compared with his Odyssey. He made the great analogy a Cameron putter is like wearing a Rolex to a Casio. They both tell time nearly identical, one just has a better reputation. He hit more puts with his Odyssey in that one.
my putting drill is unique, learned off my mate. chip 1 ball on each selected holes at a putting range and then put each ball in the pots you chose to chip to
Advert:--- "Cars at popular prices". Customer:- "How much?" Salesman:- "Fifty thousand pounds". Customer:- "Popular prices???!!" Salesman:- "Well, I like them, sir" Golf club prices today are exorbitant because the few remaining manufacturers pay pros ridiculous sums to endorse their clubs, whether or not the clubs are any good, their advertising costs are massive and their profits are enormous. ALL golf clubs heads are now made in Chinese or Japanese foundries and are largely identical----suckers pay fortunes for the "privilege" of being taken for suckers.
That is what I implied in my comment above, Rick ! There's a You Tube site called STACKED where a very good golfer and his wife visit charity shops in America to buy ridiculously cheap older clubs...like $1 each, take them to a course and play perfectly well with them...and the shops are STUFFED with them ! Need I say more ? 'Tis the workman, not his tools !
I play in a club with a lot of older much wealthier gentlemen. All game Scottys, Evenrol or Spiders. Most can't putt a lick. It more about status. In the right hands, Scotty Camerons may be better better than my Ping Sigma Piper, but I'd rather drop 10 footers all day by practicing, than pay top dollar (or pound) status putter.
Status derived from using a putter? Thats pretty funny. TBH id use a stick if It worked. Playing partners wont even look at your gear anyway, let alone be a measure of status, thats an infantile way to think and kind of sad/pathetic.
Statistically speaking, the odds that both putters would give equal results over a set period of time for a single puttee is virtually zero. One of those two putters will perform better for whatever reason, and if that putter wins you the Club Championship it's worth anywhere from the price printed on it....to whatever you can imagine. We spend hundreds and hundreds of hours, and spend thousands and thousands of dollars; sometimes for a single stroke average improvement over an entire year...if we're lucky. We're crazy.
Its like a status thing, but really at the end of the day most people could use a flat piece of wood and get the same results. Everyone who has bought one will justify the expense in this section though, I would too. Personally I think finding something that suits your eye is pretty important, it might feel nice but alignment is everything, starting that putt online. I dont think hitting a handful of putts and comparing the results really says much about the putters, its your stroke, your alignment and development of feel.
Have a scotty newport 1 of 500 absolutly terriblr with it. Got the odyssey exo 2 ball and love it . Just the visual of the ball on the putter works for me
My friend plays off +1 and uses a £15 Dunlop putter he bought 3 years ago because it was basically a copy of a £200 one he was thinking of buying. A putter is a mind club. I agree the materials used are better quality but for me it all comes down to the confidence the putter gives you when you're standing over it not the price tag.
I own a Scotty Cameron putter. It's in my garage collecting dust. I perfer my Odessey with the insert in the face. I went through that stage of "Upgrade". Bought all the new drivers and putters and even new irons and went back to my Taylormade Ti2 irons with bubble shafts, and my old Burner driver, which is more consistant. Then again, if it weren't for new clubs, you wouldn't have a show.
i don't get buying a high priced putter. I have a $10 Adams Speedline and put pretty darned good. I could putt with a broom. But the speeline is cheaper than a broom.
I got my scotty Cameron Newport putter second hand (newest model). I traded in my Taylor made putter, which I did not want any more. I got it for £90. Not bad. They are very expensive new but there are so many options in the second hand market.
There are obvious variables in the test - green conditions, player ability etc.. however, having played. good putters over the past 30 years - ping, Odessesy and now Scotty Cameron - you get what you pay for - the feel and balance of my Newport 2 Studio is fantastic(and I got mine from golfbidder for £240) - I didn't think I Would switch from my Odessey of 15 plus years but what a difference!!!!!
Redid my entire bag starting in July didn’t think I was going to replace every club in the bag but that’s exactly what I did….. minus my putter. I love my Ping Sydney too much. Having used the original spyder but not a fan of inserts, the Sydney gives me that crazy design but with a milled face
I own a crappy B squared putter which was given to me. Putt fine with it and better than some who have expensive putters. It's what you do with it and as mentioned in the vid. it's all in the mind as well!
I still play an old ping anser, the scottys and taylormade putters were all modeled after the ping. It’s not the arrow, it’s the indian putting with the arrow.
But the arrow is still important. If you pop in to your local cheap sports shop and pick up a shitty putter for a tenner, then you will never be good. This is not because of your style, but the inconsistent 'bounce' off the face each time you putt. The art is finding the putter that gives you consistent distance and accuracy for a specific shot and is a little forgiving for those putts that don't quite hit the middle. FYI, also sporting a Ping Anser II that I bought second hand from a friend in 1999. Had it regripped last year - will probably last till I die XD
Scotty Cameron is a great putter, I had one and loved it, but I have a taylormade tp Rosa that I love as well,it feels the same but is a mate black color which fits my eye better,I get no glare. Anyways we all have different planes in our swing, go and get fitted, you might end up buying a $50 putter and make more putts than with a big brand name putter, they all do a great job!
I mean I use a Scotty Cameron. But to be honest you putted with the other putter first. You got a feel for the stroke and line before you went back with the Scotty right after. I personally think it’s a mental thing it brings more confidence to your putting knowing you have a Scotty Cameron in hand. And there is definitely better feel and more forgiveness when you don’t hit right out the center of the putter. But if your just a golfer who walks up takes a quick look and putts. Your not going to notice the difference in its feel.
I loved my studio design, but have just moved to an Newport 2. A garage sale find ( not saying how how I paid as don’t want the hate ) already feeling the difference as it’s a 34 and I’m standing up a little more in my putts. So the best info here get fitted & totally agree with the attitude towards drive for show, putt for dough
The putter is for 20% in the result. The rest is the consistency of your swing, the consistency of your power, the consistency of hitting the sweet spot and your own ability to manage all of this.
The best putter by far in my golf league uses a old Titleist Dead Center putter he bought at a garage sale for 5 dollars. But he did put a new grip on it.
I recommend countering the bride's objection to any golf club purchase with immutable fact : SC putter $500AUD which you will have to pull from my "cold,dead hands" (Source: National Rifle Assoc. President Charlton Heston) with a very real expectation of $300+ at my estate wind-up. Her haircuts $90 - $120 time-stamped to revert to mousetails 3 weeks later - requiring a rinse and repeat. Said bride declares this a rant but concedes every time. Match play should be so easy.
Tiger used the same putter for 14 of those majors because he didn't like any of the newer ones. This historic putter, possibly was originally milled By Bob Bettinardi, as were most Scotty Cameron putters from 1992 - 1998/9 Yet people still buy them because he uses one in name only ((so cost should be lower because they aren't as good as they used to make).
Speaking of fitting, is the Cameron adjustable? It appears to have weights on the bottom and red spots on the back that could be weights (like PXG uses) to fit the putter to your stroke. Are these changeable or are they only set in a stock configuration for everyone?
I’ve been playing Scotty putters for years (odyssey before that) and recently the very premium Yamada (Google it yourself) handmade putters with limited success. Couple of weeks ago, I got hold of the Spider Tour red putter. I’m now averaging 2 birdies per round and last game I made 3 birdies. I’m never one to be able to hole my birdie putt. The Spider has transformed my putting at a lower price point.
Lee Trevino was in a pro shop in Holland. He found a 10 dollar putter in a clearance bin. He hit some putts with it, went out and won the open with it.
I have a Scotty GoLo for 5 years and the milling on the face has stayed the exact same since day 1. They are worth the money over mass produced odyssey’s. Proper craftsmanship and unbeatable feel. If you still 3 putt with one don’t blame the putter.
One thing to consider is that TM will manufacture the next best thing every six months. Vokey's don't come out with a new and next best thing no where near that often. So, TM is hoping you will go out and buy the cheaper putter whenever the new one comes out, then add up what you've spent on the cheap TM versus Vokey. The math will speak for itself, unless you invest in getting fitted.
You get what you pay for. Get fitted with a Scotty, had my Newport II since 2012. Holed many crucial putts when I played at St. Andrews Old Course, and Carnoustie that same year... will never change putter.
True and False. I always tell people yuo putt with what you want. He said he wanted th Cameron before he ever started the video. You also can waste about 15 strokes per round if you hit your Driver out of bounds or in a Hazard each time. No putting will fix that. BUT. Putting and Putter choice is based upon what you like and what your Stroke is best matched for. He obviously likes a offset blade because he performed better with it. What you don't see is he already knew the putt, so first or second does not really matter . It's a fair test, but the user is always Biased
Scott Cameron Putters, are they worth the money??? Well, yes, but, no.... In all seriousness, back in 2012, I spent 2 months talking with staff at a PGA Superstore about putters, testing multiple models, and getting feedback. I eventually decided to pony up the $225, at the time, for a Scotty Cameron Select Golo s5. It's the smaller mallet head, with a straight angled-shaft, no loop at the bottom. Originally had a Super Stroke grip placed on it and I just replaced it after 8 years. Bottom-line, definitely spend the time testing out putters and find one that FEELS good. Putting is all about feel. For me, nothing gives me the feel, confidence, and feedback of a Scotty. Same with my irons; father bought me a set of Mizuno MP-33 blades, from 2005, and I haven't replaced those either. I've tried multiple blades since then and I really can't find one that gives that same "cutting through butter" feeling as my MP-33s. Once you've played premium, fitted clubs, you can't settle for anything less and it's well worth the investment. Hell, I went back to that PGA Superstore 2 weeks ago and the pro that was re-gripping my irons said, "Hey bud, it's NOT worth the $1,500+ for a new set of Mizuno blades. Find an online store that can clean up the grooves and that's far cheaper and definitely more worth it than spending a month's paycheck on a set of clubs. Oh, and let me know if you want to sell that Scotty!" ;)
I bought a Cameron Teryllium in 1998. Paid around $175. Determined that at that price it could never be the putter, so it had to be the pttee. I am still putting with it today and I never looked at another putter.
this 100%, bought my Newport Teryllium in '99 and still using it today. Everyone else I know has gone through a minimum of 8 putters during that time. My Scotty was a much better purchase over the long haul.
I don't need to watch this video to learn that as long as the putter is straight has no face dings or other faults, it's all about the stroke. I have used a Teardrop Z1 Zebra putter and love it, any faults lie with me (no pun intended).
The driver putter comparison isn't fair imo. Yes you're using the putter more but the shots are way different. A forgiving driver that yields more fairways is gonna do better for your game than a putter when you learn the pacing and break
I'm still using my 1993 Scotty Classic 1 pre Titleist love it ...I have a newer Scotty Newport Platinum 1999 model ........both are basically the same shape and weight and lie. One of these days I may retire the 1993 pre-Titleist Scotty...I have spoken to the Cameron custom shop re: a full restoration and certificate of authenticity of the '93 ..... BTW I still have the original Headcover in perfect condition......the Custom Shop gave me a price of $275.00 for the restoration back to original condition and it's current specifications..... my concern is that a restoration may reduce the putter's value as it is ...... I've seen these Pre Titleist, Augusta Stamped Scottys' go for between 1700 and 2300 dollars......you never can tell.
I use a bettinardi model 1 the milling and quality is amazing finish is awesome and grip feels soft . Quality costs money and visuals are far more important then anything. You like the putter it will just work better for you
"Is it a steal,Is it a good deal, is it a sale of the century, which school of business did you go to Nick"...English accent is the best and funniest by far.
Finding a putter that looks (psychology?) and feels perfect took me too many years. When the head cover comes off my Scotty Cameron I'm Tiger Woods (who by the way won 13 majors with a SC). If only I was Tiger Woods on the tee, fairway, rough, sand and apres golf.
I play with a 540 dollar Nickent set and beat players who have played 20 years longer than my 9 months. The truth, you can play good with any club its just personal preference and if you just suck or not!
I played a TaylorMade TPA putter for years then decided to buy a new putter. Why? well I was not happy at the # of putts/round. I tested the TaylorMade Spyder and Odyssey mallet. I couldn't;t justify the price of the Spyder so I bought the Odyssey. I noticed that on the course, I never could true up the face and kept leaving putts to the right. My wife bought me a red TaylorMade Spyder putter for my birthday and I absolutely LOVE IT! It fits my putting stroke which tends to have a bit of an arc to it. I can attest that the Spyder has dropped my handicap by 2 points to a 7. My playing partners call it "Big Red." Money well spent,
I do not have the Odyssey anymore, but I believe it was a White Hot Rossie(round back, silver) The Spyder is this one- www.golfworld.com.au/assets/images/TOUR-PROVEN-DESIGN.png Hope that helps.
There seems to always be some people in every endeavor who will pay more for a diminishing improvement. But that's okay; it keeps hopes alive and the wheels of commerce turning. Money has little value if it's not being used/exchanged. It's a good service for James Robinson Golf to post these videos.
Yep. Agreed they are both great Putters, cannot argue. Totally different type of Putters though! Scotty is Heel-Toe and TM Spyder is Face-Balanced. In fact there are No comparisons to "the Originals" HT Balanced = I give you the Ping Anser (maybe the A-Blade, Pal or Anser 2, even) everything Scotty's achieve is down to the development of these original style of putter perfection. The best Face-Balanced has to be the 2-Ball! I'll leave this here.
Guess no one else noticed the distinctly different lines you chose with each. The Spider putts were big sweeping arcs playing a lot of break, and the Scotty was played with a lesser break and more pace. Can we say that maybe you went to school on the Spider putts?
More about weight I felt. The scottyi felt was I tiny bit heavier and I could give it a bit more of a whack if that makes sense! Thanks for watching mike!
Agreed, All clubs, including putters, are approved by the USGA and RA for play, and those governing bodies make sure consistent, well hit golf shots are the result of a players skill and ability, not because of financial ability
I still remember playing with a guy that owned a $15 dollar cheap anser knock off. He'd out putt everyone. I have had my scotty camwron for years, and never putt as well as him. I do feel it's a great match for me, but some people can read the lines on greens, and others can't. It's a matter of perception.
People by Scotty Cameron putters because the name. If you're a good putter you can putt with just about anything. Pros don't pay a dime for their equipment.
The putter is the only club in the bag that you could buy for a fiver in a yard sale being 40 years old and yet it could work for you better then any modern Scotty or Taylor made.. i doubt I could bring myself to drop 350 on a putter unless I was really good in which case Scotty Cameron would be giving me one free. The driver on the other hand is of course a different matter. I just upgraded my 15 year sons driver from the Titleist D2 915 to the Callaway Rogue subzero. The difference is off the chart. I was actually taken back by the difference especially the extra distance. He plays off 2 so its not random. That in my view was worth the £430. But for me never on a putter.
Arnold Palmer said " The Better you Look , The Better you Play ". Now He was talking about His Clothing line at the time but I can see where you could transfer that to the Mental Aspect of Putting. If you THINK one of the putters is better than the other then you may very well putt better with it. But like you said 2 random Golfers selected and 1 Thinks the Scotty looks better will probably more times than not putt better with it. The same if the other likes the look of the Spyder putter better they will end up putting better with that one. Golf....It's actually Flog spelled Backwards.
The best putter is the one you trust it doesn’t matter how much it cost I have a yes milly which is fantastic but I only use it on wet days / greens When the sun is shiny and the greens are dry I use my Scotty circa 62 No.1 I just love it’s clean simplicity Oh and she always gets a baby oil massage when I get home before I putter ( get it put her ) to bed I mean away
the scotty will last for years well past the owners patience for holing putts with it have long gone however James I use an Odyssey 2 ball which I have had for 15 years and won plenty that said try putting a £10 putter which I did recently it felt it was looking for water on the back stroke! cheap putter is a no go, interesting video many thanks
Putters and drivers are how they make you feel. They dont perform any better or worse but if you love looking down at them and they make you happy, does money matter?
Putting is on the person entirely....the putter is just an extension of their taste/wallet. I generally believe that the only normal golfers that play Scottie Camerons are those that want to flex how much they spent on their clubs
Sorry, I don't find the test fair. 1) Do you normally play with a blade, and more importantly a Scotty Newport? If so, I'd rather see you compare a Scotty Futura mallet vs the Spider. 2) Your first putts were with the Spider - By the time you got to the Scotty, you knew a lot more about that Right to Left turn. I have a Spider about 6 years old, and challenge the "build quality" rating. My Spider has probably 800 rounds on it, and while the paint finish shows wear, the putter itself, including the insert, plays the same as new. I'll say this for TaylorMade's True Roll, I have found it to be the most consistent on distance of any of them. I recently tried to go to an Odyssey #7, but I just couldn't build up the putt after putt distance control that I have with my TaylorMade. I also had my daughter switch from an Odyssey mallet with a white ice insert to a Spider Tour and her distance control has improved dramatically.
Ultimately every product is mass manufactured.... probably in the Far East. If you are prepared to pay £300 plus for a putter go get an edel. The fitting process is comprehensive and made to order
I waited 20 years to own a brand new Scotty, I’ll tell you this.... the set up and eye appeal is there and it just feels good, which breads confidence. Well worth it to me 👍
Bought my 1st scotty last year and yes they r very expensive but the craftsmanship and feel of that putter is amazing. 1 of my best decisions ever. Absolutely love it
I use a Scotty Cameron Newport 2 putter and it’s given me such confidence. My Driving may be a struggle but my putting, even as a high handicapper is probably the best part of my game.
Confidence is key isn’t it big man! You can’t buy it! 👍🏼⛳️🔥🎥
I’ve had my Scotty Cameron for more than 10 yrs. I’ve used others in between during putting difficulties but I always go back to the Scotty. I realised its not the putter but the shit on the end of it!
about two weeks ago i went to a golf-shop to buy a new shirt..
I saw some Evnroll putters there, and given that i had never had the chance to test them before, I gave them a try. A few minutes in, one of the salesmen (no older than 18) came in and said "with your stroke you should use a putter with a different toe hang".. we did a fitting with about 15 different putters and my final choice was between the Spider Tour and a Scotty, with the Spider tour making much closer groups, so i bought it (and a superstroke grip).. I'm very happy with having done the fitting and the knowledge of the kid was great.
yesterday I made my first birdie on a specific par 5 hole, after holing a 10 meter put..
moral of the story: buy shirts online, else you'll spend a few hundred on new equipment :P i am truly happy with the fitted putter though ;)
cdh79 had similar experiences, with driver , went to test new shaft and left with new driver and $ 430 lighter wallet doh
I just bought a TM Spider Tour as well, haven't had a chance to use it but the reviews on it are just overly positive.
Brian
Insightful thoughts. Thanks for sharing
Cameron putters are great. Bottom line is how a person feels about the putter. I've been using the same Cameron putter for 25 years. Thanks for the review.
For I don't remember how many years, I have been using a Scotty Cameron Studio Style Newport 1.5, US 150 on eBay. Like new. It has a serial number, so not likely a knockoff. Putt just fine with it. Rolled in two long ones yesterday. Buy one Scotty and forget about it. Classic style looks so good behind the ball.
Scotty’s are outstanding beautiful putters but I can’t help but feel that you’re paying for the name.
Marketing, marketing, marketing!!!!!!
A golf buddy of mine longed for a Bettinardi putter - prices to make your eyes water. But she tried an Oddesey putter and she loved it. The price was half that of the Bettinardi and very nice it is too. Pick whichever putter which gives you the belief in yourself or it becomes a very expensive metal stick which you can stoke the fire with...
The only bad thing about your test, is you learned off your first try with the Taylormade. Start with the Scotty Cameron on a different lie and see if it comes out the same
Yes agreed you only got better at feeling the distance and the break when you led off with the TM. Silly test.
I would alternate with each putt.
His hand was shaking😂
This test was pointless........in fact, the whole video was pointless.
Just thinking that
I've used a $10 putter for 15 years. Doesn't matter what you have, if you can put you can put with anything.
Agreed. My putter is from the 70's, paint is falling off but I make 30 putts for 18 holes with it. I have tried that SC putter but for me the grip is too big and it goes a tad faster than mine.But I doubt I will ever buy another putter ;-)
Arthur Haverkamp my backup putter is an ambidextrous Wilson from a putt putt course.
A friend of mine summed this up the best. He said, "I can miss a put the same with my $60 Ray Cook putter the same as my $500 Scotty Cameron putter. But this is a Scotty Cameron putter."
James, I like how you put the price of an expensive putter in perspective vs. an expensive driver. One uses the putter a whole lot more, so being confident in it is a major factor. Whether it is from S.C. or Ping or from Walmart really is irrelevant, as you pointed out. I love your content. Cheers!!
Comparing putter price vs driver price using number of shots used per round is the wrong measure. Rather use distances hit per round - much easier to hit a putter on line than a driver due to backswing length needed. Easy to hot putter on sweet spot. Need much more forgiveness /technology on a driver.
I was a guy who got new clubs every couple of years. in 1998 I got a Scotty Cameron Catalina. It's been the only putter in my bag ever since.
Not that guy any more Tony! Good man!
I love the feel of my Scotty. It's made me a better putter through practice. When I hit a fraction toe heel high or low I know it immediately and need to correct the flaw in my stroke.
Putting is all about green reads and distance control. If you spent a million pounds and can't read greens it's not going to help. But a someone who's good at it can make just as many with any putter they use...it's a status symbol. .driver, irons, and wedges are definitely worth the price due to game improvement tech. But putters are putters. .can't see spending that much on one if I can get one for 100 or more less.
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So true. Best putter I've ever had was from a company that does a travelling road show and visits town a couple of times a year. It's basically a lighter mallet and it just suits me for some reason and I putt the best I've ever putted with it. $50 brand new including a custom cover.
what ur paying for in a cameron is better quality controlled made putter. a bmw car has tighter feel than a kia.
Better quality in terms of fit and finish maybe but performance wise, nothing more than average in independent tests.
ok.....you go play with the misaligned shafted putter with a misaligned alignment aid that is couple centimeter that is off of the natural gravity weight of the putter. don't forget that the weight can also be heavier on one side because of the mold they made the putter from didn't come off right. but there is no quality control to fix it. you get what u pay for.
My wife bought me a Piretti putter this year and it paid for itself when I won a Cameron Newport in a putting contest at an alumni tournament. They're basically the same shape, classic Anser style and slay putts. Love the Piretti but the Cameron is nice to have around.
That said I also have a Studio Fastback that I picked up essentially for free in a pawnshop set, and while initially hating it by the end of the round I was killing putts with it. So now I'm torn.
Whichever one you get, best to just stick with it. Mallets vs Blades have very different feels and somewhat different strokes. Earlier this year I had one putter. Now I have like eight.
Nice mate enjoy!
Love the putting drill - will be adopting this drill into my routine
Thanks !!! Here the link to the actual drill video.. ua-cam.com/video/X1mnCwiB2QM/v-deo.html
Agreed, what a great drill. I bought a Newport Special Select during the lockdown. It is better than my old Odyssey; for me yes for the confidence it allows.
A good chef never blames his tools. Same with putters. To a lesser degree, all golf clubs. I once bought a driver that was made approx 1935. It was wooden headed and had an imitation wood shaft and the old leather grip. I stripped the old varnish off the head and sanded it right back to bare wood, then put a clear gloss varnish on it and it came up looking nice!. The club cost me $5.00 but I could still out drive all my casual playing partners with it and they would all eventually wander over to my bag to check it out and I was asked constantly if it was a new graphite shafted driver, you know, something really expensive.
I don't know if many believed me when I told them the truth.
they have good resale value. One of the only pieces of golf equiptment that has this
Advertising is designed to part you from your cash, and Scotty Cameron putters are a good example of this. There's "one born every minute". Expensive clubs will not improve the play of hackers, but lessons might. Of course, as Lee Trevino said :- "Believe me-----it's the Indian, NOT the arrow"----and he was right.
Just bought my second Scotty Cameron and will never play another putter. Recommend looking at used. People take care of them because they are so expensive, so you can get a pretty nice one much cheaper.
That's right. And I just did just that this morning. Picked up a beautiful, lightly used California for under $200. My friends have played Scottys for a while, and I've loved the feel of every single ball I've ever struck with their clubs. I've tried a few putters over the years, and nothing's felt nearly as nice. Worth the money, imo.
i just got a newport yesterday for $225 and i can’t wait to use it now and the guy took really good care of it
Buying an expensive putter made me realise that it’s not the putter. It took the putter out of the equation and made me work harder to improve my ability. Practice is key. When I miss a putt, I no longer blame the putter.
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I specifically bought a Scotty Cameron, having been led to believe they are the best, and they definitely cost the most. I was very impressed with the feel of the contact with the ball. It is as if it is an extension of your hands. Now, when I miss a putt, I think about why. Stroke too hard? Stroke too soft? Wrong line? Club face not square at impact? Rushed? Never, do I think it is the putter!
Remember the adage, "A bad workman always blames his tools". So buying the best tool removes the excuse.
Also remember the other adage, "The more I practice, the luckier I get"!
this 100%, when you have the best equipment and it doesn't work , you know it's you
Putting is all about the 6 inches between the ears. If a putter gives you confidence then in my eyes it’s priceless.
Putting is about confidence and stroking positively. Premium products give us confidence. A premium product and fitting is a must.
Couldn’t agree more mate :)
A scotty will stay in the bag for a decade and still hold value, the spider will be in the bag for 2years before it’s changed and be worth pennies after.
Great point Christopher
Who was Scotty Cameron?
Not sure on the truth behind if it will truly sink more putts, but I had an Odyssey White Hot Pro V Line for 4 months. Face balanced, wasn't fit, just liked the look/price and bought it. Didn't feel great on the course or my putting mat with it. Sold it, went and got fit with the Quintic system. Had zero intentions of buying a Scotty, but that is what I left with. I tried a handful of putters, but styles and brands from Odyssey, Bettinardi, Ping, and Scotty. I also always liked mallets over blades.
However, Quintic readings made it very clear that I was able to strike the ball the smoothest and most consistent with the Scotty so I ended up with one. I did buy it 2nd hand in 9/10 condition to save a little bit, so truly wasn't much more than the Odyssey or any other new putter at that point. Been putting on my mat for a month almost daily with it and love it!
The math bit cracked me up, like this dude open and honest. good work.
Cheers dude
$180 for a new golo 5r, $55 a piece for practically new sm6/7 wedges x3, $115 for brand new M5 head - my purchases since January.
was using a scotty california sonoma, liked it, who doesn't like scotty. happened to wander in a thrift shop, found an old copper ping b60 for $4.64, regripped it ($7.00), been in my bag for 2 years now. many scotty designs were originally ping.
Nice Dennis exactly the point. Beautiful clubs. Thanks for watching, hope your enjoying the content
My experience with putters. Bought odyssey #9. Used couple seasons didn't like the soft face insert. Loved the looks of a scotty cameron Laguna but I didn't want to pay the price. I bought an odyssey blade with black(firmer) insert. It looked like scotty cameron Laguna. Used that club for some years then wanted to try something new. I went to a putter fitting to see what they reccomend. Rolled some putts with my current odyssey putter then the fitter asked me if I was set on getting a blade. I was 96% sure I wanted a blade. Fitter handed me a Taylormade spider. Holy cow! What a difference. I was shocked how much easier it was to aim and more stable my stroke was. Turns out a face-balanced perimeter weighted putter was best for my stroke. I was somewhat in love but I still couldn't get a scotty cameron out of my mind. I don't remember the fitter having scotty cameron futura putters so I went somewhere else to check them out. I had most success with futura 6m out of all futura line. Now I had a decision to make tm spider vs sc futura 6m. They both made me more confident over the ball so that was a wash. Spider had a little bit better aim and sat better at address. But the futura 6m had alot better feel in my opinion. Which is important to me. Long story short I bought a used sc 6m for $250 and had to regrip it with stock grip which I think was $40. Scotty Cameron putters generally hold their value well from what I've seen. The scotty cameron 6m won't save anymore strokes than a tm spider would. Btw, tm spider isnt a cheap putter itself. After changing to a scotty cameron 6m and using my practice green I'm putting much better. In regards to going to a fitter vs just banging balls trying to find what works. Learning that a face-balanced perimeter weighted putter is best for me covers the $50 fitting fee. I'm not sure i would of tried a face-balanced mallet on my own. The fitter might of saved me from buying another putter that doesn't work well for my stroke. I've learned with golf, that the price of the club doesn't matter. It's more important on how the club fits your swing and what gives you more confidence when standing over the ball.
It’s all in the mind. Like anything if expensive it is pas-sieved better. The market knows it and your all prepared to pay . Good vid, carry on.....
I watched Rick Shiels do a similar video. He compared with his Odyssey. He made the great analogy a Cameron putter is like wearing a Rolex to a Casio. They both tell time nearly identical, one just has a better reputation. He hit more puts with his Odyssey in that one.
my putting drill is unique, learned off my mate. chip 1 ball on each selected holes at a putting range and then put each ball in the pots you chose to chip to
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Customer:- "How much?"
Salesman:- "Fifty thousand pounds".
Customer:- "Popular prices???!!"
Salesman:- "Well, I like them, sir"
Golf club prices today are exorbitant because the few remaining manufacturers pay pros ridiculous sums to endorse their clubs, whether or not the clubs are any good, their advertising costs are massive and their profits are enormous. ALL golf clubs heads are now made in Chinese or Japanese foundries and are largely identical----suckers pay fortunes for the "privilege" of being taken for suckers.
That is what I implied in my comment above, Rick ! There's a You Tube site called STACKED where a very good golfer and his wife visit charity shops in America to buy ridiculously cheap older clubs...like $1 each, take them to a course and play perfectly well with them...and the shops are STUFFED with them ! Need I say more ? 'Tis the workman, not his tools !
I play in a club with a lot of older much wealthier gentlemen. All game Scottys, Evenrol or Spiders. Most can't putt a lick. It more about status. In the right hands, Scotty Camerons may be better better than my Ping Sigma Piper, but I'd rather drop 10 footers all day by practicing, than pay top dollar (or pound) status putter.
Status derived from using a putter? Thats pretty funny. TBH id use a stick if It worked. Playing partners wont even look at your gear anyway, let alone be a measure of status, thats an infantile way to think and kind of sad/pathetic.
I also feel like the golfer is what makes some of these putters good... 🙂
Statistically speaking, the odds that both putters would give equal results over a set period of time for a single puttee is virtually zero. One of those two putters will perform better for whatever reason, and if that putter wins you the Club Championship it's worth anywhere from the price printed on it....to whatever you can imagine. We spend hundreds and hundreds of hours, and spend thousands and thousands of dollars; sometimes for a single stroke average improvement over an entire year...if we're lucky. We're crazy.
Crazy indeed. But you're exactly right. What's winning worth? More than the price tag on a putter, for most of us.
The new Odyssey Stroke Lab putters blow the Scotty Cameron’s our of the water for half the price!
I bought a Scotty Cameron. It was the best club I ever owned for picking the ball up.
Its like a status thing, but really at the end of the day most people could use a flat piece of wood and get the same results. Everyone who has bought one will justify the expense in this section though, I would too. Personally I think finding something that suits your eye is pretty important, it might feel nice but alignment is everything, starting that putt online. I dont think hitting a handful of putts and comparing the results really says much about the putters, its your stroke, your alignment and development of feel.
Have a scotty newport 1 of 500 absolutly terriblr with it. Got the odyssey exo 2 ball and love it . Just the visual of the ball on the putter works for me
My friend plays off +1 and uses a £15 Dunlop putter he bought 3 years ago because it was basically a copy of a £200 one he was thinking of buying. A putter is a mind club. I agree the materials used are better quality but for me it all comes down to the confidence the putter gives you when you're standing over it not the price tag.
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your friend would be at +3 with a SC
I own a Scotty Cameron putter. It's in my garage collecting dust. I perfer my Odessey with the insert in the face. I went through that stage of "Upgrade". Bought all the new drivers and putters and even new irons and went back to my Taylormade Ti2 irons with bubble shafts, and my old Burner driver, which is more consistant. Then again, if it weren't for new clubs, you wouldn't have a show.
i don't get buying a high priced putter. I have a $10 Adams Speedline and put pretty darned good. I could putt with a broom. But the speeline is cheaper than a broom.
20 dollar Adams driver mate
Another gem of a video James!
I got my scotty Cameron Newport putter second hand (newest model). I traded in my Taylor made putter, which I did not want any more. I got it for £90. Not bad. They are very expensive new but there are so many options in the second hand market.
There are obvious variables in the test - green conditions, player ability etc.. however, having played. good putters over the past 30 years - ping, Odessesy and now Scotty Cameron - you get what you pay for - the feel and balance of my Newport 2 Studio is fantastic(and I got mine from golfbidder for £240) - I didn't think I Would switch from my Odessey of 15 plus years but what a difference!!!!!
you could get the same results with a bent stick, its all about the speed and getting the right line
Redid my entire bag starting in July didn’t think I was going to replace every club in the bag but that’s exactly what I did….. minus my putter. I love my Ping Sydney too much. Having used the original spyder but not a fan of inserts, the Sydney gives me that crazy design but with a milled face
I own a crappy B squared putter which was given to me. Putt fine with it and better than some who have expensive putters. It's what you do with it and as mentioned in the vid. it's all in the mind as well!
I still play an old ping anser, the scottys and taylormade putters were all modeled after the ping.
It’s not the arrow, it’s the indian putting with the arrow.
Haha like it
ahhh living in the limelight my friend......but be cool or be cast out...
But the arrow is still important. If you pop in to your local cheap sports shop and pick up a shitty putter for a tenner, then you will never be good. This is not because of your style, but the inconsistent 'bounce' off the face each time you putt. The art is finding the putter that gives you consistent distance and accuracy for a specific shot and is a little forgiving for those putts that don't quite hit the middle.
FYI, also sporting a Ping Anser II that I bought second hand from a friend in 1999. Had it regripped last year - will probably last till I die XD
Scotty Cameron is a great putter, I had one and loved it, but I have a taylormade tp Rosa that I love as well,it feels the same but is a mate black color which fits my eye better,I get no glare. Anyways we all have different planes in our swing, go and get fitted, you might end up buying a $50 putter and make more putts than with a big brand name putter, they all do a great job!
Scotty Cameron is totally worth The price. The feel is exceptional. Don’t buy a counterfeit off eBay like several of my playing partners
I mean I use a Scotty Cameron. But to be honest you putted with the other putter first. You got a feel for the stroke and line before you went back with the Scotty right after. I personally think it’s a mental thing it brings more confidence to your putting knowing you have a Scotty Cameron in hand. And there is definitely better feel and more forgiveness when you don’t hit right out the center of the putter. But if your just a golfer who walks up takes a quick look and putts. Your not going to notice the difference in its feel.
I loved my studio design, but have just moved to an Newport 2. A garage sale find ( not saying how how I paid as don’t want the hate ) already feeling the difference as it’s a 34 and I’m standing up a little more in my putts. So the best info here get fitted & totally agree with the attitude towards drive for show, putt for dough
The putter is for 20% in the result. The rest is the consistency of your swing, the consistency of your power, the consistency of hitting the sweet spot and your own ability to manage all of this.
The best putter by far in my golf league uses a old Titleist Dead Center putter he bought at a garage sale for 5 dollars. But he did put a new grip on it.
I recommend countering the bride's objection to any golf club purchase with immutable fact : SC putter $500AUD which you will have to pull from my "cold,dead hands" (Source: National Rifle Assoc. President Charlton Heston) with a very real expectation of $300+ at my estate wind-up.
Her haircuts $90 - $120 time-stamped to revert to mousetails 3 weeks later - requiring a rinse and repeat.
Said bride declares this a rant but concedes every time.
Match play should be so easy.
Tiger Woods also won 14 majors on a Scotty. Adds at least a hundred bucks
XxTomcastxX 15* he he he
Tiger used the same putter for 14 of those majors because he didn't like any of the newer ones.
This historic putter, possibly was originally milled By Bob Bettinardi, as were most Scotty Cameron putters from 1992 - 1998/9
Yet people still buy them because he uses one in name only ((so cost should be lower because they aren't as good as they used to make).
I like to make a survey of putting. Which is more important between speed and direction in putting?
Speaking of fitting, is the Cameron adjustable? It appears to have weights on the bottom and red spots on the back that could be weights (like PXG uses) to fit the putter to your stroke. Are these changeable or are they only set in a stock configuration for everyone?
I’ve been playing Scotty putters for years (odyssey before that) and recently the very premium Yamada (Google it yourself) handmade putters with limited success. Couple of weeks ago, I got hold of the Spider Tour red putter. I’m now averaging 2 birdies per round and last game I made 3 birdies. I’m never one to be able to hole my birdie putt. The Spider has transformed my putting at a lower price point.
Lee Trevino was in a pro shop in Holland. He found a 10 dollar putter in a clearance bin. He hit some putts with it, went out and won the open with it.
Lee Trevino learned to hit by hittin blades off of hard pan. On a different level.
I have a Scotty GoLo for 5 years and the milling on the face has stayed the exact same since day 1. They are worth the money over mass produced odyssey’s. Proper craftsmanship and unbeatable feel. If you still 3 putt with one don’t blame the putter.
Yeah I agree Jamie to be fair, very well built!
One thing to consider is that TM will manufacture the next best thing every six months. Vokey's don't come out with a new and next best thing no where near that often. So, TM is hoping you will go out and buy the cheaper putter whenever the new one comes out, then add up what you've spent on the cheap TM versus Vokey. The math will speak for itself, unless you invest in getting fitted.
Great points greg!
You get what you pay for. Get fitted with a Scotty, had my Newport II since 2012. Holed many crucial putts when I played at St. Andrews Old Course, and Carnoustie that same year... will never change putter.
Couldn’t agree more!
True and False. I always tell people yuo putt with what you want. He said he wanted th Cameron before he ever started the video. You also can waste about 15 strokes per round if you hit your Driver out of bounds or in a Hazard each time. No putting will fix that. BUT. Putting and Putter choice is based upon what you like and what your Stroke is best matched for. He obviously likes a offset blade because he performed better with it. What you don't see is he already knew the putt, so first or second does not really matter . It's a fair test, but the user is always Biased
Steven Hogan who hits their driver that bad? Lol
Scott Cameron Putters, are they worth the money???
Well, yes, but, no....
In all seriousness, back in 2012, I spent 2 months talking with staff at a PGA Superstore about putters, testing multiple models, and getting feedback. I eventually decided to pony up the $225, at the time, for a Scotty Cameron Select Golo s5. It's the smaller mallet head, with a straight angled-shaft, no loop at the bottom. Originally had a Super Stroke grip placed on it and I just replaced it after 8 years. Bottom-line, definitely spend the time testing out putters and find one that FEELS good. Putting is all about feel. For me, nothing gives me the feel, confidence, and feedback of a Scotty. Same with my irons; father bought me a set of Mizuno MP-33 blades, from 2005, and I haven't replaced those either. I've tried multiple blades since then and I really can't find one that gives that same "cutting through butter" feeling as my MP-33s. Once you've played premium, fitted clubs, you can't settle for anything less and it's well worth the investment. Hell, I went back to that PGA Superstore 2 weeks ago and the pro that was re-gripping my irons said, "Hey bud, it's NOT worth the $1,500+ for a new set of Mizuno blades. Find an online store that can clean up the grooves and that's far cheaper and definitely more worth it than spending a month's paycheck on a set of clubs. Oh, and let me know if you want to sell that Scotty!" ;)
I bought a Cameron Teryllium in 1998. Paid around $175. Determined that at that price it could never be the putter, so it had to be the pttee. I am still putting with it today and I never looked at another putter.
this 100%, bought my Newport Teryllium in '99 and still using it today. Everyone else I know has gone through a minimum of 8 putters during that time. My Scotty was a much better purchase over the long haul.
AMEN ! Spend the money while you can and look good 👍 honest review.
Its no different to way people buy expensive cars.. a cheap car still get you from A to B, the expensive car just make you feel nice
I just bought a 2014 GOLO 5 scotty for250 dollars and I love it
I don't need to watch this video to learn that as long as the putter is straight has no face dings or other faults, it's all about the stroke. I have used a Teardrop Z1 Zebra putter and love it, any faults lie with me (no pun intended).
The driver putter comparison isn't fair imo. Yes you're using the putter more but the shots are way different. A forgiving driver that yields more fairways is gonna do better for your game than a putter when you learn the pacing and break
I'm still using my 1993 Scotty Classic 1 pre Titleist love it ...I have a newer Scotty Newport Platinum 1999 model ........both are basically the same shape and weight and lie. One of these days I may retire the 1993 pre-Titleist Scotty...I have spoken to the Cameron custom shop re: a full restoration and certificate of authenticity of the '93 ..... BTW I still have the original Headcover in perfect condition......the Custom Shop gave me a price of $275.00 for the restoration back to original condition and it's current specifications..... my concern is that a restoration may reduce the putter's value as it is ...... I've seen these Pre Titleist, Augusta Stamped Scottys' go for between 1700 and 2300 dollars......you never can tell.
I use a bettinardi model 1 the milling and quality is amazing finish is awesome and grip feels soft . Quality costs money and visuals are far more important then anything. You like the putter it will just work better for you
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Ryan Staples visuals over performance? OK mate.
Álvaro Ybáñez do you hate the look of all your clubs ?
Ive missed 2 short pressure putts this year and it wasnt the fault of my 20yr old putter
"Is it a steal,Is it a good deal, is it a sale of the century, which school of business did you go to Nick"...English accent is the best and funniest by far.
Finding a putter that looks (psychology?) and feels perfect took me too many years. When the head cover comes off my Scotty Cameron I'm Tiger Woods (who by the way won 13 majors with a SC). If only I was Tiger Woods on the tee, fairway, rough, sand and apres golf.
I play with a 540 dollar Nickent set and beat players who have played 20 years longer than my 9 months. The truth, you can play good with any club its just personal preference and if you just suck or not!
I played a TaylorMade TPA putter for years then decided to buy a new putter. Why? well I was not happy at the # of putts/round. I tested the TaylorMade Spyder and Odyssey mallet. I couldn't;t justify the price of the Spyder so I bought the Odyssey. I noticed that on the course, I never could true up the face and kept leaving putts to the right. My wife bought me a red TaylorMade Spyder putter for my birthday and I absolutely LOVE IT! It fits my putting stroke which tends to have a bit of an arc to it. I can attest that the Spyder has dropped my handicap by 2 points to a 7. My playing partners call it "Big Red." Money well spent,
I do not have the Odyssey anymore, but I believe it was a White Hot Rossie(round back, silver) The Spyder is this one- www.golfworld.com.au/assets/images/TOUR-PROVEN-DESIGN.png Hope that helps.
There seems to always be some people in every endeavor who will pay more for a diminishing improvement. But that's okay; it keeps hopes alive and the wheels of commerce turning. Money has little value if it's not being used/exchanged. It's a good service for James Robinson Golf to post these videos.
Yep. Agreed they are both great Putters, cannot argue. Totally different type of Putters though! Scotty is Heel-Toe and TM Spyder is Face-Balanced. In fact there are No comparisons to "the Originals" HT Balanced = I give you the Ping Anser (maybe the A-Blade, Pal or Anser 2, even) everything Scotty's achieve is down to the development of these original style of putter perfection. The best Face-Balanced has to be the 2-Ball! I'll leave this here.
Guess no one else noticed the distinctly different lines you chose with each. The Spider putts were big sweeping arcs playing a lot of break, and the Scotty was played with a lesser break and more pace. Can we say that maybe you went to school on the Spider putts?
More about weight I felt. The scottyi felt was I tiny bit heavier and I could give it a bit more of a whack if that makes sense! Thanks for watching mike!
It's not only putters that are over priced. Getting expensive clubs don't mean your golf is going to improve
Agreed William!
Agreed, All clubs, including putters, are approved by the USGA and RA for play, and those governing bodies make sure consistent, well hit golf shots are the result of a players skill and ability, not because of financial ability
I had a golden bear master series I payed 10 bucks for , used that putter for 10 years , I bought a Scotty and sink more putts
I still remember playing with a guy that owned a $15 dollar cheap anser knock off. He'd out putt everyone. I have had my scotty camwron for years, and never putt as well as him. I do feel it's a great match for me, but some people can read the lines on greens, and others can't. It's a matter of perception.
Practice more!?!
Dustin Johnson currently #1 has a Taylormade putter. But, he gets paid a lot of money for doing so....
People by Scotty Cameron putters because the name. If you're a good putter you can putt with just about anything. Pros don't pay a dime for their equipment.
The putter is the only club in the bag that you could buy for a fiver in a yard sale being 40 years old and yet it could work for you better then any modern Scotty or Taylor made.. i doubt I could bring myself to drop 350 on a putter unless I was really good in which case Scotty Cameron would be giving me one free. The driver on the other hand is of course a different matter. I just upgraded my 15 year sons driver from the Titleist D2 915 to the Callaway Rogue subzero. The difference is off the chart. I was actually taken back by the difference especially the extra distance. He plays off 2 so its not random. That in my view was worth the £430. But for me never on a putter.
Arnold Palmer said " The Better you Look , The Better you Play ". Now He was talking about His Clothing line at the time but I can see where you could transfer that to the Mental Aspect of Putting.
If you THINK one of the putters is better than the other then you may very well putt better with it.
But like you said 2 random Golfers selected and 1 Thinks the Scotty looks better will probably more times than not putt better with it.
The same if the other likes the look of the Spyder putter better they will end up putting better with that one.
Golf....It's actually Flog spelled Backwards.
The best putter is the one you trust it doesn’t matter how much it cost
I have a yes milly which is fantastic but I only use it on wet days / greens
When the sun is shiny and the greens are dry I use my Scotty circa 62 No.1 I just love it’s clean simplicity
Oh and she always gets a baby oil massage when I get home before I putter ( get it put her ) to bed
I mean away
Great video James!!
the scotty will last for years well past the owners patience for holing putts with it have long gone however James I use an Odyssey 2 ball which I have had for 15 years and won plenty that said try putting a £10 putter which I did recently it felt it was looking for water on the back stroke! cheap putter is a no go, interesting video many thanks
Putters and drivers are how they make you feel. They dont perform any better or worse but if you love looking down at them and they make you happy, does money matter?
Putting is on the person entirely....the putter is just an extension of their taste/wallet.
I generally believe that the only normal golfers that play Scottie Camerons are those that want to flex how much they spent on their clubs
Still use Oddessy 2 Ball Blade... Best putter ever.$2.99 at Goodwill. Bought it about three years ago.i yearn for cheap products.
Sorry, I don't find the test fair. 1) Do you normally play with a blade, and more importantly a Scotty Newport? If so, I'd rather see you compare a Scotty Futura mallet vs the Spider. 2) Your first putts were with the Spider - By the time you got to the Scotty, you knew a lot more about that Right to Left turn.
I have a Spider about 6 years old, and challenge the "build quality" rating. My Spider has probably 800 rounds on it, and while the paint finish shows wear, the putter itself, including the insert, plays the same as new. I'll say this for TaylorMade's True Roll, I have found it to be the most consistent on distance of any of them. I recently tried to go to an Odyssey #7, but I just couldn't build up the putt after putt distance control that I have with my TaylorMade. I also had my daughter switch from an Odyssey mallet with a white ice insert to a Spider Tour and her distance control has improved dramatically.
Apologies Mitch
Skills, talent, and confidence sink putts. If you don't have these, your bestfriend, Scotty, won't be able to help you.
Ultimately every product is mass manufactured.... probably in the Far East. If you are prepared to pay £300 plus for a putter go get an edel. The fitting process is comprehensive and made to order