Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023) Review
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2023
- Non spoiler review of Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny.
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At least Crystal Skull gave Indy a happy, satisfying ending with a marriage and a son to live out his life. Now in this his son is dead and his marriage is strained. Nothing is sacred with these legacy characters anymore
In retrospective, it's funny how, out of all of Harrison Ford's most iconic characters, Rick Deckard had the best outcome of all of them
"Nothing is sacred"...
😂😂😂😂😂
@@PunkMetalero9666Blade Runner 2049 was such an unecessary film, the first Blade Runner is perfectly contained with a great score and atmosphere. Stupid looking charisma-free Ryan Gosling makes the film even more irritating. It's just visually gorgeous but it brings nothing new and Hans Zimmer's score is so bland compared to Vangelis' timeless music. Hollywood is so creatively bankrupt...
I thought gosling fit that character as an android trying to figure out emotions.
This is just a fan film, not in continuity with the others 😂
I don't understand how you think this looks "cinematic". For me this looks like a video game, very much unlike the original Indiana Jones idea of having real practical effects.
It wasn’t an “idea” at the time it was just reality of where special effects where at in the early 80s. If GL had access to CGI at the time the early trilogy would have been full of it!
@@davidgeisler9885 I don’t think so. They wanted to make it like the serials of their past. We all have seen so much CGI extravaganza in recent years that it’s just boring and soulless. Indy used to be “James Bond without the hardware”, one guy on an adventure. The CGI was ridiculous in KOTCS already.
@@luna-hw9li come on you’re telling me GL isn’t into CGI? Did you see the SW prequels? A key reason he stopped doing SW films in the 80s was the limitations in special effects of the time
@@davidgeisler9885 No, Lucas went crazy with CGI in later years. It just wasn't the core concept of Indiana Jones.
I just think that people go to see an Indy movie and expect a few things: a fun adventure, a few scares, low-level "realistic" effects, and a cool James-Bond-like hero. Take these things away and it will fail as an Indy movie, just like KOTCS. Indy must never look like a parody of himself. It needs to look believable. In this regard, I don't think the aesthetic of the new movie fits the bill. It looks fake. It looks like somebody is playing Uncharted. Indy5 is too fast and too furious...
I don't know what Oliver was on when watching this movie; presumably a cocktail of drugs.
"Better than kingdom" is not really a compliment.
Watch it and find out for yourself.
Most people so far said it is worse. And I honestly believe it. As not any Disney franchise continuation was better than previous movies
@@sspdirect02Are you going to pay for his ticket?
Don't talk as if anybody has the obligation to support this.
Film criticism exists, in part, to guide people's decisions on what films to spend their limited money on.
It's miles better.
@@citizen3000
Oh; you like critics now?
That's a switch...
Edit- Ikr? Such rubles... lmao
Red letter media and Roger Ebert said it best, the appeal of these films are the high quality action set pieces, travelling to different places and watching Indiana being a badass. You don't really care about his character or relationships that's not the point. If it was about the character then why does he still wear the same clothes at 80 years old.
Tbh this film was so schlocky and absurd towards the end, I kinda liked it.
Never mentioned this before but I love the Cannon films inspired logo Oliver! Top notch sir
While normally I agree that a film should be watched before passing judgment, I’ve thrown too much money at Kathleen Kennedy’s Lucasfilm already. Frankly I’ve seen enough of the “aged, broken, depressed iconic hero” trope to know that it’s no longer worth an overpriced movie ticket. Luke Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Willow, and now Indiana Jones. I just think paying for these kinds of films just to “give them a chance” is a waste. This movie doesn’t sound very fun, and that why I watch Indiana Jones.
I’d say I’ll wait until it goes to streaming, but I probably won’t do that either. Kennedy’s Lucasfilm has polluted enough of my childhood memories.
The way I see it, if I keep paying to see these films, I’m giving my financial approval of every decision Kennedy has been making. Money is the only language these people speak. You can’t complain about and keep paying to see it.
Best comment on here. I have exactly the same issue. Disney and especially KK have burnt me too many times now. Im not backing anything they do at the cinema unless it gets rave reviews and even then id have to think about it.
Temple of Doom is “fun” 😮
And of course you have to watch a film to pass judgement what on earth are you on about?? Forgot the political Star Wars crap, get a ticket on 1/2 price day and try to watch it and enjoy yourself.
You’ve let yourself turn into a misery guts about going to the movies.
@@danielm2808well done, private little KK protest. Done. You know how many films she’s been behind in the past that you loved at the time when you did even know who she was?
@@davidgeisler9885 u mean when she had no say in the story. Listen to what Steven Spielberg said about her. She’s a good organiser but terrible with ideas
@@davidgeisler9885 she was a producer, yes, but she didn’t make those films herself. I know plenty of the films her name was attached to, but it doesn’t make her Spielberg, Zemeckis, or Lucas.
Just because someone bets on the right horse, it doesn’t mean they can throw a saddle on their back and win the Kentucky Derby themselves.
It can wait for Redbox. Not paying full price for this thing.
yeah I'll torrent it when a decent copy becomes available as I'm getting a big old sense of meh about it.
How badly is the projected box office for this film ?? The makers hijacked the intercom system in New York Subways to run the alert signal followed by a commercial for the film. Wonder who’s palm they greased to hijack the emergency alarm system at Metro. Talk about desperation !! 😅
Hearing an ad in that context would make me not want to see whats being advertised.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
@@kurtdewittphoto Have fun missing out! The movie was great and we need more inclusiveness and love to bring peace in the world!
@swallowedinthesea No. No more forced inclusion or any of that shite. Story comes first and make great stories. This “film” is trash tier and only the first 3 are great.
@viewtifuljoe4412 when is it forced? And is that for all films? Also women exists in Indiana Jones. Now I can't defend nor agree with your assessment of the movie (I haven't watched it, unlike yourself).
A lot of reviewers are saying if the first 15-20 minutes were expanded into a movie they would make a great Indy film, but when they flash forward to the 60's everything goes downhill. So can they still make a decent Indy movie, it seems they can from what we see in the opening scenes, but then they throw that out the window.
Also despite people lauding Ford's portrayal of Indy, Phoebe Waller Bridges character seems almost universally disliked with even those giving the movie a good review saying she is annoying, and not in a Willy Scott, Temple of Doom way, but in a 'she needs no man' sort of way. Hardly surprising when it has been rumoured that Waller-Bridge was allowed to 'punch up' her dialogue. I think if perhaps they had made her a relation of Marcus Brody the fans would have warmed to her more, but introducing Indy's supposed best friend cold in the opening minutes then expecting everyone to take to her was a tall order.
Well, coming from the writer that killed off James Bond, it's hardly surprising.
@@gokaury that wasn’t her idea it was Daniel Craigs, and he wouldn’t do the movie unless it happened.
I'll take a thousand Crystal Skulls before watching a single Marvel turd.
Crystal skull is a better film
Based
@@NeverSaySandwich1 *common sentiment
Famous last words.
In what context because there's plenty of decent marvel movies.
I loved the opening that reminded me of old Cannon movies. Once again, great review. Maybe I'll give this one a chance, since I really disliked Crystal Skull.
Yeah, because Cannon were always known for their heavy reliance on CGI.
This was nothing like Cystal Skull. Thank God.
@@devinreese1397 Agreed. This was much better.
$300 million budget just sounds absolutely crazy, especially when you consider Raiders cost around 60 after adjusting for inflation. It's going to have to make well over 600 just to break even.
Let's hope it doesn't make even ten bucks.
Probably around 900 million to break even for Disney, as cinemas take around half the money from ticket sales
$300 million?! Jesus.
Way more than 600 bro
And marketing costs are on top of that $300m
Does anyone remember when Temple of Doom was the bad one?
Always liked Temple of Doom. Raiders may be the most critically acclaimed, but Temple and Last Crusade are my personal favorites.
Anyone remember when Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was the worst Indiana Jones movie?
My god, how far we've fallen.
It was just ok to me, not great not horrible. Loved the opening Germany scenes, had the feel of the first Indy movies I wish the whole movie was like that. It got clunky to me after that, not all the exciting and Indy never had a big connection to the dial like he did the Ark. He was just along for the ride it seemed.
So they sideline Marion again? That's disappointing. Her return in Crystal Skull was one of the few redeeming parts of that film
She was in it tho
Marion appears briefly right at the end.
@@mrbee4life182 again, sidelined though.
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 They only added her in during reshoots, according to an interview with Harrison Ford.
@@KasumiKenshirou unfortunate as the chemistry between them is a major part of why Raiders worked so well and was deeply missed in Temple of Doom and Last Crusade
Saw The Dial of Destiny yesterday.
The first 25 minutes ware okay, it felt like an Indiana Jones movie.
After that it was just a boring and bland adventure movie making the same mistakes as Kingdom of Crystal Skull (2008) did before it.
Sadly 4/10 from me.
I wish I could agree that this was a better send off for the character than what Indy 4 did. But the film couldn't justify its own run time and then it was just an abrupt ending. (Must have been hasty reshoots) This was not a satisfying conclusion when compared with 3 and 4. It's just sad to see Indy in his twilight years being so broken down and sad, I don't really think that's very 'Indy' at all
He felt like a side character by the back half of the film. I know they had to workaround Ford's age, but the action sequences were lacking because it was filmed with that fast-paced modern shaky cam style so didn't feel like the predecessors. Williams' score wasn't really stand out either
I wish there would have been a 4th installment in the 90s before he got too old, but in hindsight, he's in great shape in Crystal Skull where it's just about believable
I agree with you on many aspects but this is what you get when you go more "realistic" as the director said he would make HARRISONS age a factor in the story. Growing old can be sad when you outlive everyone and the world has deemed you obsolete. Imagine how many people die alone. Yet that isn't what an Indiana Jones story is about. It is action and adventure about discovery and good beating evil.
Honestly, I just rewatched the whole series with the madam, and I know it's sacrelige, the old movies did not age for me. They are well made, but I remember when they came out they were pop culture events.
I was surprised when I liked Kingdom the best of the four.
@@jtstacey83 That's just it, it didn't needed to be gritty and real. There's plenty of other franchises that have done/do that. This is supposed to be an adventure serial about an archaeologist hunting for artefacts and punching Nazis, we didn't need to see a deconstructed 'grounded' take on the character. That's where it falls apart, Indy was never meant to be viewed from that standpoint. I get what they were going for, it didn't work. Also, don't introduce time travel in the same story arc, as it's a direct contradiction to that. That and an extended cast of characters no one gives a fuck about
The Indy films only ever really work when they're based in the 30s and the 40s. That is when the old Republic serials were shot, to which the Indiana Jones films are an homage. You take Jones out of that time period, like they did in Crystal Skull and this movie, it simply doesn't work at all.
As someone who likes the Indy films (yes, even Crystal Skull, my opinion), I thought Destiny was quite good and I was worried that the filmmakers were going to go down the same route that No Time To Die went but thankfully, they didn’t. I can’t imagine how the fans would react to seeing Indy going out the same way as Bond but I honestly thought that was going to happen and they did get me and made me believe it but thank god that didn’t happen.
Reportedly ILM & Disney made around 6 versions of the ending. KK wanted a crazy version where Indy dies & Helena takes his brown Fedora. 😏
@@DavidLLambertmobile Don´t beleive the BS that channels like Doomcock claim as "news"
“ quite good “ ?!! It was utter garbage Steve wonder 😢
They felt Crystal Skull didn't display Harrison Ford's age... ? You could literally see in every scene that he was a sexagenarian.
Crystal Skull was a woeful movie, but at least it allowed Indy to be something other than an absentee dad/grumpy old man (a la Han Solo and Rick Deckard).
Someone will have to buy an extra ticket on my behalf, I'm sitting this one out.
I'll buy you a ticket. And a bucket of popcorn.
Give the movie a chance. Its fun.
@@Steve-gc5nt Enjoy it twice!
You have chosen... wisely.
Movie is complete and utter trash. An insult to the character of Indiana Jones no less.
We have heard that this movie WAS about Helena taking over, not about Indy at all... which comes off way too much as you even mentioned. Which as well puts off the whole movie, and the fact that we are supposed to care for her character when she doesnt even care for Indy at all... just comes off as an upset and contrasts everything we've seen before in the series. Just bad writing
You have HEARD this but is it what you actually saw? If you watched the movie and still took that away from it then I feel sad for you. Its the usual terrified incels crying about an argument that they've invented in their own head.
@@obsoleteworldsgaslighting and calling people incels, sounds like a Disney shill!
@@obsoleteworlds a terrified incel calling other ppl incels over rightfully butchering a beloved character
@@obsoleteworlds It´s not an incel issue here, it´s Kathleen Kennedy trying to be Spielberg, since she´s envious.
Always a treat to watch your reviews. Always in depth with no annoying gimmicks.
This. The most popular movie 'review' channel on youtube talks about the movie for about 3 minutes. Baffles me how some become so popular.
@@tigerwarsaw99which one is that?
Oliver Harper always does amazing work. I love his retrospectives.
@@anthonymartensen3164 Stuckman
I feel totally the exact opposite of the reviewer of this film. This movie is awful. The first 30 minutes were great and felt like an Indiana Jones. However, once we are introduced to Phoebe Waller Bridge's character, the movie goes downhill. She is so so annoying. She takes on the role of the hero in the film, while Indy is treated like a geriatric sidekick in his own movie. It should be called Indiana Jones and the Abusive Care Giver. The ending feels tacked on but is nice because there is an appearance by Karen Allen. The bad this is the film is way too long.
Does anyone know where the song from 8:07 onwards is from? Pretty sure it was from a show in the 80's or 90's.
The way I see it, Raiders, Temple of Doom and Last Crusade are one central series of stories that sort of flow into one another. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and Dial of Destiny are essentially epilogues. There’s no rule that says there can be only one epilogue as one of the greatest video games of all time Red Dead Redemption 2 has 2 epilogues since the central storyline is about Arthur Morgan and once he dies, it includes two epilogues focusing on John Marston struggling to live a normal life but is sucked back in to his outlaw lifestyle followed by him building his own home and farm.
Dial is a remake
this cant be as good as velma
This movie “treats (Indiana Jones‘s age) with a bit more respect”???
Couldn’t disagree more, Oliver. Shaw constantly insults & belittles him.
It's as though Oliver watched a completely different movie to the rest of us. I've actually lost a fair bit of respect for his opinion on film now :(
Yes. SHE insults him...which makes us more sympathetic to his situation. I agree with Oliver here. Maybe "respect" is the wrong word, but Indy's age is treated more realistically. He's a broken man with a broken marriage and a dead son. It's not only played for laughs.
I loved the Dial Of Destiny. In my opinion, all five Indy films are fantastic. 🤠
trailer looks like same old cgi modern move garbage
Traler looks literally like EVERY MOVIE this summer,..LoL
if You think tis a cgi fest I guess you'll also be skipping Mission Impossible LoL
@@terryshrk That was not the point. I think what he wants to say is that Indy movies always stood out as very realistic looking. Not like a lesson in how NOT to use photoshop. The parade looks very artificial and so does the whole look of the movie. But that is a trend for quite some time now. Everything looks like orange puke and the camera seems to be allergic to skin texture. The filters are that apparent. It is just a horrible trend. If you are interested what started it read the article ORANGE AND TEAL HOLLYWOOD PLEASE STOP THIS MADNESS. A good overview how a fad became a cancerous growth that makes almost all movies coming out today practically unwatchable for me.
The film is 1% better than Skull but that is it. 2/5. Indiana Jones is a trilogy and this film deserves to loose the 200+ million it will.
Oh dear, when you list that many negatives about a film and then say it was good ... eh.
You don't have to completely hate the film and can avoid the obvious political stuff surrounding it (although the studio pretty much made that a point), but let's not overcorrect in the opposite direction.
No, Helena is not to be his replacement but lets not act like we can't see the pattern of Disney's Lucasfilm continuations and remakes. It might not matter anyway because if this movie doesn't succeed wildly, the studio is looking at $1B in losses in one year. No amount of positive spin reviews or ignoring the causes of this decline will change that.
Yes, it's a decent adventure film about a grumpy old Indiana Jones. The problem is: do I really want to see an old Indiana Jones? If you do, this is the movie for you. If you'd rather have your hero stories end with optimism for that hero's future, which is kind of the point of this genre of films (hence the "happily ever after" motif), then no. I'll stick to the first three movies being the actual series and the last two as being fan faction.
Regardless, I'll just chalk this up as an "agree to disagree" moment for a channel I otherwise find reliable for sensible movie reviews.
Decent? The first 15 minutes yeah. But after that it's downhill sharply.
thanks for letting me know.
I didn’t mind it ! I thought it was a lot better then the crystal skull .
I’d like to give my own positive review.
I’m positive I hated it.
A lot of disagreements on here with the review. I have to go along with their criticisms. I'll just say it.. the movie was boring, Marion was used in a terrible way, and Bridge is just insufferable. She reminded me of Leet from Solo which makes sense as that was her as well. This was a horrible final bow for Ford and Williams.
Mixed reviews? That’s being generous. Nothing says a good time like a broken old man wanting to die.
The ending of this was reshot. Originally it had Helena replacing Indiana, but it was changed because they realized people would burn the theaters down.
😂
that's an internet rumour, James Mangold said they never shot anything like that.
You'll believe anything, won't you?
@@azure_azure I consider it an educated guess after all the moronic things Disney's done with Star Wars and the MCU.
@@Psilocybin77 The ending was reshot, but as to what and from, it's conjecture. Educated conjecture from what how we've seen Lucasfilm characters handled though.
Sick of multiverse time travel clap trap. It’s just lazy.
Disney paid off some nerd shills on RT with access to raise the score after Cannes😄😄
I doubt that happened.
@@J-Dawg81 It's happened before, paid not with money... but with media access. WB did something similar with the way they rolled out Flash
@@Knightfall182And your clear and definite proof of this what…?
@@Knightfall182 Disney definitely did something because they are having an abysmal year being 900 million dollars in the hole. Disney really need Indy to be a success, i doubt it will be
Proof please?
I think crystal skull is a better film tbh with more character
Nothing beats a movie about a once awesome action hero now being old and useless.
Felt realistic to me
Ageist
@davidgeisler9885 if you get to see the movie, you'll see y he thinks he is useless. It felt believable. Saw it last night and actually really liked it. It's closer to being as good as originals than being close to number 4 imo. Crystal Skull was horrendous.
And one in which he has...
**SPOILERS** (if anyone really cares at this point)
...been shot for the majority of the third act of the film.
I thought it was a massive disappointment. My daughter (12) fell asleep and I was bored throughout following the admittedly great opening.
It isn't that kind of movie
For the older generation who grew up with it.
Your priorities and outlook change.
That is what it's about.
We will all get old (if you are lucky).
Also maybe a poke at the youth obsessed culture of today. 🙂
Harrison Ford at 81
Thanks for this video. Must be sad to have to see this series fall like this
That happened with Crystal Skull, which also simply shouldn't have been made.
@@citizen3000this makes crystal skull seem a masterpiece
@@williamshakespears9594no it doesn’t. The opening scene alone is better than Crystal Skull
@@Luke101I noticed that you quoted the opening scene and not the rest of the movie.
by indiana jones standards it is a good film, as is the crystal skull really. the issue is mainly with the CGI and post production in my opinion.
Love your reviews but other than the beginning this movie was depressing and not fun. I’ve watched KOTCS more than once, but I don’t believe I’ll ever want to revisit this undoing of the happy ending they gave Indy in the last film.
Jeremy jahns had it right, I won't remember this movie in t-minus 1 day. I can at least remember multiple parts of Crystal skull.
A betrayal of the character.
Ty Oliver, great to hear a balanced review
in hindsight I don´t get the feedback on waller bridge. she is just independent and Indy bests her several times with his experience. I don´t like the time travel, same as the aliens in 4. but the only other thing I didn´t like was indy being scratched in the tunnel and voller being hit by the train sign. both scenes would mean instant death. overall a pretty good movie
Damn I just ain’t sure I can trust you after watching this
I am not a massive Indiana Jones fan, but I did want to see it with my Dad because it was gonna be the last of the lot. Overall, I enjoyed it. It was clever and the story was good.
I am glad they didn't do the cliche, "Oh I am old and make fun of me," thing. John Williams score was great as always. The opening music was amazing! Not to mention to the CGI for Harrison Ford and the train chase. A couple of problems I will have is that the action felt a bit too prolonged and everywhere. Some of the film didn't really know where it was going. Particularly the Morocco and New York scenes. I also think the villain should have clearly have been killed at the start with the train chase too. Other than that. It was great. 7.5-8/10
I grew up on these movies, but there was ZERO reason to do anything after 3 other than cashing in on nostalgia which is pretty much the hollywood troupe now.
I might watch this at some point out of morbid curiosity but I won't be wasting money in the cinema to see it just based on exp of these movie franchises getting dragged on years after they should have ended.
To me this will most likely be pretty copy paste of the first 3 movies with nothing much else to offer bar its for a dial this time. Maybe I'll be proven wrong when/if I do eventually watch it.. but I remain firmly pessimistic on all these old franchises
Young Indiana Jones Chronicles was the finale for me. Harrison Ford was even in that.
Try it and you might be surprised. I smiled all the way through. There was a nice mix of touching callbacks and a sweet ending.
Just wanted to say, a bit off topic, that Thomas Kretschmann is awesome: hes been in Stalingrad twice, commanded german uboats, been around during the attempt to remove Hitler from power and he still has time to play another German military character in here.
Oliver saying that Helena was "charming"; that the movie is good and that it's well shot, has really made me question why I'm subscribed to his channel.
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull will always be the true finale to the Indian Jones series to me.
Young Indiana Jones for me
Kennedy said Dial of Destiny is the best Indy of all time. Why should anyone doubt her?
She produced all the other movies.
Did she ever say that?
@@gamestation2690 False
@@Ruylopez778 She DID. It's right there in the credits.
@@Ruylopez778 Yes she did. Associate producer on Raiders and Last Crusade and Producer on Temple of Doom
Compare and contrast this, with the just uploaded Critical Drinker review.
So, if you listen to comments, you come up with, "Wahhh, Disney is too progressive for me, too much diversity, I didnt see it because Disney" mixed with a few comments of those agreeing that Disney movies suck, than you might even find a couple actual comments about the film itself...😂
Appreciate the open-minded approach and balanced review. I’m more likely to look for this film at my next opportunity to get to a theater. The one in my town closed in the pandemic panic and remains dark.
Ending may be too far fetched? First one has a magic box that melts people's faces, crushes their skulls, and blows their heads up. Second one had a dude that can reach into a guys chest and pull out his beating heart while the guy still lives. Third one has a 400 year old knight living in a cave and a holy grail that, when filled with water, can cure gunshot wounds. Fourth one, aliens. Naa, it was pretty much fully in line with the previous movies. I agree that they could have trimmed 30 minutes off it though.
The only thing that was missing was a grotesque villain death like the previous entries.
When you have a director like James Mangold (someone who’s had nothing but critical acclaim before) and the movie turns out bad you know the studio interfered the hell out of the movie
For my money I thought the movie and it's effects looked like a game, everything had sort of a cgi look like everyone was standing behind a greenscreen, It was okay but actually I prefer the crystal skull
Crystal Skull looked much more fake though, with that bloom filter over every scene.
@@Yggdrasil42 The 4K version of Crystal Skull removes the bloom, thankfully.
It's hilarious the way Deadline is talking up the Thursday numbers and domestic opening weekend predictions, saying it's 'second in the franchise after KotCS' from *2008* as if that is impressive! They're comping it to No Time to Die (that opened in Oct 2021 when the movies were crawling out of the pandemic slump) as the "older-skewing action-guy". Indy 4 made $100m in the three day weekend, equal to $140m in today's money. This movie is tracking at $65m. Get a clue, Kathleen!
edit: $130m loss!
OMG you people are excruciating. KK haters don’t you have your own private chat groups you can be depressing in?
@@davidgeisler9885 Anyone using language like "you people" is the one with the problem. But by all means come back and tell me if this Indy movie doesn't LOSE money like Solo did, OK?
@@davidgeisler9885well, she is THE common denominator in all of this. She is the one constant behind all of these Lucasfilm IPs that have been ruined. Get a clue.
@@Ruylopez778 It's one month later and the movie has finished its theatrical run with $350 million at the box office. It needs to make AT LEAST $800 million just to breakeven (and that is an extremely conservative estimate - the breakeven point is likely closer to a billion).
@@Right_Said_Brett Yep, well this was always going to lose money, but I'm glad the casual audience voted with their wallet and rejected this crap. Especially as Barbie and Oppenheimer (two original projects from auteur directors) crushed it and disprove the narrative that the movie going audience vanished because of streaming. Audiences will still turn up for something they want, just like with Avatar.
Of course, this is incidental to people such as davidgeisler9885, that screech about 'haters' and make accusations instead of an actual counterarguments. For them, they feel some sense of pride in regurgitating access media bullshit, thinking that trying to shame other people, instead of just disagree, is somehow making the world a better place.
I suppose it might claw some more money back on the ancillary and streaming markets, where viewers can scrub through it on the plane, out of boredom and morbid curiosity, or put it on in the background while doing something more interesting, like cooking dinner.
Nice balanced review. I agree.
lucasfilm dismantled and poisoned both of harrison fords iconic, legacy characters using the same exact formula. humiliate & destroy the man. remove his son, remove the love of his life, then bury him with feminism. the disrespect is insane. how Harper can actually enjoy & approve of this garbage is beyond me. lost of alot of respect for harper with this review. some ppl just larp it up & clap like seals.
@@Sliider36 So, you don't understand Feminism and mistake it with Misandry/Matriarchy... You are basically a Current Wave Feminist!
Nice BS review, more like.
SPOILERS AHEAD!!!
I liked Helena Shaw. She was very maternal in a way with Teddy. I would have rewritten some of their scenes. I did not like Mason. She was annoying throughout. I was thrilled when she was killed. An article I read yesterday said that Jurgen said some 'racist microaggressions' to a black butler, but I heard nothing of the kind. I loved the nods to the previous four instalments. The second trailer had some lines which were whipped out of the final cut, which annoyed me.
This was the second time I saw an Indiana Jones photoplay in the cinema. My first time was when Raiders Of The Lost Ark waa re-released just afore Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull was released, and it was a dream come true watching this action adventure in theatres. I had seen it multiple times on videocassette and then on DVD. But viewing it for the first time in widescreen was amazing. And I stayed through the end credits to hear the music written by John Williams. I did the same thing when the credits began for this fifth (and sadly final) adventure. But the franchise ended on a high note, even though I would have loved to see Steven Spielberg's original vision when he waa still going to direct it. I wonder what Renee Wilson found so 'offensive' about her final scene that she asked James Mangold to change it. I wish the lines in the second trailer which were not in the final cut had been kept in. However, I loved this instalment.
OK, your thumbs up for this horrible movie means I will never treat your channel seriously again.
"Indiana Jones and the Hapless harridan": 15-20 minutes of action from LucasFilm and Disney.
Too bad "the dial of destiny" wasn't a Alethiometer.
This is probably the first review that gives this film high accolades.
I like how he sticks up for Phoebe Waller-Brisge dismissing the criticism based on info from reshoots and her previous work on _Solo_ and _No Time to Die._
He also dismisses that she will be handling (re: mishandling) Tomb Taider next.
Now I'm curious about his reviews for the Star Wars sequels. If they're glowing reviews, or mostly positive, I'm going to wonder.
Yeah, different things appeal to different people, but....
He didn't like the sequel trilogy. Neither did I
But I did enjoy this film. Second for me on list of Disney Lucasfilm productions after Rogue One
@@lukesmale24
He gave _Rise of Skywalker_ a 3.5/5, which is a pretty good review.
I couldn't find his review for _The Last Jedi._
_Rogue One_ had a good battle scene with the Battle of Scarif, but it had story and characterization issues.
I'm curious, though:
Did you like _Dial of Destiny_ better than _Crystal Skull?_ Or vice-versa?
Fleabag sucked
"Yeah, different things appeal to different people, but.." You answered your own question.
@@davidjames579 Yes, probably, but his review still dismisses why the film is getting criticized, especially in regards to Phoebe Waller-Bridge who has been involved with the killing of male heroes.
I mean: She said it was funny that she was able to punch out Harrison Ford....and I wonder would it have been funny if it was a man saying that about a female co-star?
But then again: Oliver Harper probably has a thing for feminists. (Different things appeal to different people). He probably is a male feminist himself, which would explain a lot.
But I am assuming through minor observations, and I digress.
Remember when Indy movies were good?
Me too. The 80’s.
I can't decide how i feel about it.
I believe it was better than Cristal Skull 💀
The action was a mess and lit poorly. The plot was pointless and the last act was ridiculous. Overall, what I expect from Kathleen Kennedy and Disney
Stop using her as a scapegoat. She produced the other four Indiana Jones movies, you know.
@@gamestation2690 She acted as a producer for the other four Indy movies. She acted as a President of Lucasfilm for the 5th. If you're too dumb to understand the difference between a waiter and a chef, then that's on you.
I was able to watch the film on Wednesday. The cinema was barely half full and although the film was good in some areas it was very disappointing in others. PWB was doing stuff that I really thought Indiana Jones should be doing that not you.
As someone mentioned earlier the franchise should have finished with The Last Crusade, although I'm going to try and get a new appreciation for Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull.
Harrison should've done 3 more Indies throughout the 90's and first 5 years of the 2000's. Spear of Destiny was my fav Indy comic.
@@Veldtian1ey had so many Indy stories to mine, including The Fate of Atlantis. Why they had to go with a story like this is completely asinine. They could have gone with anything and even added Short Round instead of Bridge. What they did is completely unfathomable.
Why is one third of this review dislikes....? What am I missin' here....?
Spot on review in my opinion!
Very disappointing movie but that is to be expected from anything related to LucasFilm (Disney).
The Back to the Future trilogy.
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That's it. I hope those words brought you a little smile.
Sorry, Disney. No plans to see 'Indiana Jones and the Decision of Density'. 😂😂
I just don't like the whole concept of the dial. Since when is Archimedes linked to any mystic powers and where dose the whole dial-concept come from?
The past movies always played with ACTUAL legends and myth (well as actuall as ferrytales can get but still) and there are so many more things in one of the thousands religions mankind went to in the last millenias that could be used for an Indy-Flick (Asian or midle-eastern folklore could have been a cool bit, things like Babylon or japanese stuff maybe...and don't get me started on the fate of atlantis ;) ).
instead they make up this nonesense...
I agree, big part of the Indiana Jones charm is that they actually focus on ""real"" artefacts. Even the Crystal Skulls, while fake in their origin, had a big mythos around them and the ancient aliens theories have also been there for a long while, which I thought they combined quite well. This movie has like one deadly trap, the final tomb is located next to a tourist attraction instead of some ancient lost place, and the villain dies not because of the wrath of any god or because the artefact he searched for rips his flesh trough space and time, no, he just crashes his plane. These might seem like nitpicks but they are part of what sets Indiana Jones apart from other adventure movies
The dial concept in this movie is the Antikythera mechanism which is an Ancient Greek hand-powered device, described as the oldest known example of an analogue computer used to predict astronomical positions and eclypses decades in advance. It was found in 1901 in the sea in Greece. There is no evidence to suggest however that it was made my Archimedes in reality.
@@mrjohntheo154 yes, I know of that device and was also guessing it inspired them for the movie but still: no myth or legend around it in regards of any magic or whatsoever.
Actuall Greek mythology would have had better stuff...
@@horizonmage_o1839 I agree - also the concept if the parapsychic-russians fitted in to tie it to things actually happening in the times (as in 'staring at goats') - I just felt that they went to far in chrystal skull with ALSO including El Dorado, weird cemetary-gangs and Aztecs...
As always. Love your reviews. Keep up the good work. Sadly. I have no desires to see this movie which is both a sad and hard thing to say as a fan of the first three movies. Will watch it once it goes on streaming. It just sounds mid to meh and my time and money is sadly limited.
This is about the only positive review I've seen so far. Itll bever live up to the originals but hopefully it's at least a good time.
It is.
It absolutely does not live up to the originals and I am lost for words at how Oliver could possibly have thought that it was a good movie.
I think it's on the same level as Kingdom: average film that pales in comparison against the original trilogy and ultimately ends up being unnecessary
I saw this movie. Likes: The flashback Nazi train sequence, Teddy, the Siege of Syracuse. Dislikes: Helena Shaw. That's all.
Some people have this weird obsession with dunking on PWB. She’s fine in this film.
Mads plays a fun, if a bit underdeveloped villain.
George Lucas used the ending from one of the episodes of Amazing Stories titled "The Rift." The WW2 pilot flies his plane through a rift in the sky back to the past after he ends up trapped in the future. The whole Dial of Destiny was a lazy writers tool to attempt a time travel element and waste money on de-aging Indy when it wasn't necessary. The role should've been re-cast. If Kathleen Kennedy actually did her fxcking job and searched for good skilled acting talent (Brandon Sklenar), this series could've gone forward with some new adventures. I love Harrison Ford. Always have. But he had a great ending in Crystal Skull, even though that movie was a bit of a turd. He gets married to Marion. Mutt seems to be back on track and he's walking out of a church wearing his hat. It's all good.
4:18 where does this happen in the movie?
Deleted scene!
Man what did they pay you?
This is a good film (not great) and what I like about Oliver is, he is not driven by click bait unlike most UA-camrs. He appears to alao see himself as an honest professional who loves his 80's films and is not a Shill for the left or right
The whole purpose of movie trailers is to sell the movie. If the trailer looks bad then people usually come to the conclusion that its bad. The trailer and everything ive see and heard about this movie looks bad. So people who haven't seen it can have and share their opinion on this movie. Its kinda like crack. I've never tried crack but from what I've seen/heard it's bad. Don't think I or anyone else has to smoke it first before having a opinion on it.
Just say yes.
The cgi has got to stop.... or sparingly used just to fill out scenes and touch up work...its absolutely horrible..it allows directors to rev things up to 200mph but looks absolutely horrible and allows people to do such unrealistic things inside of a effing cartoon basically..and you can obviously see that...back in the day things were in shot ,really there practical effects and miniatures and things slowed down but really done with stuntmen look so much better... like the action in the Last Crusade or James Bond The Living Daylights that era into the mid to late 90's movies like Dantes Peak were the last great era of special effects for me
Indiana Jones and the quest for more money.
It is absolutely pathetic on its face and I can't believe anybody would be excited about this.
03:00 this review should have a spoiler warning
Indy let it go
I thought it was poor. Too much CGI and muddy uninspired action set pieces. If Spielberg had directed it would have been a lot better.
I like your videos and recognise the work you put into them, but have to disagree on this one. I saw Diarrhea of Dysentery yesterday and was very disappointed, and that was despite going in with low expectations. The opening sequence is the best part of the film by far, but the de-ageing of Harrison looked off just enough to become a distraction. From then on the film becomes a turgid slog of globe trotting interspersed with action set pieces but it felt by the numbers and stale. The two big action scenes are nothing new, we've seen tuk tuk chase in Octopussy, and seen the hero ride a horse through the city in True Lies. Those scenes were very CGI heavy and too easy to spot what was effects work and what was live action. Indy was sidelined and upstaged too much by the Helena character, who wasn't very likeable and certainly never came across as charming. I'm not a fan of Phoebe Waller-Bridge and although the character was never going to appeal, may have come across better if played by another actress such as Kiera Knightly, Holiday Grainger or Natalie Dormer for example. The films biggest let down is the final act, to say it's a bit far fetched is an understatement - it was utterly stupid! The film also lacks the look and feel of an Indy film with Steven Spielberg at the helm, they do a reasonable job of copying the style, but it never feels quite right. Although Crystal Skull was a vastly inferior installment in the franchise, I much prefer it to Dial of Destiny - which I'd give 4/10 and that's mainly for the opening sequence.
I couldn't have put it better myself! 100% agree with everything you said.
Yea first time I disagree with Oliver. Crystal Skull is leagues better than this garbage
I remember watching Barry Norman as a kid (I'm sure you did too) and couldn't wait all week to see his reviews and clips of the films themselves. To me, your reviews as an early 40 year old, have taken that place and you are my only video review channel I watch. I can remember watching the Last Crusade review live on the BBC! Now here I am watching your review of another Indy film all these years later. I told myself I wouldn't go see this film, but then I decided that would be silly. I have 8 and 11 year old sons who want to go watch it. So, I'm going to watch your review now, and see what you thought! Thanks for your channel Mr. Harper. You're the best.Thanks!
Don’t go ! Rewatch the trilogy ... 😞
Agreed olly has a touch of the Barry Normans about him!
@@birlove1471 If they released the trilogy at the flicks, I'd go!
Thanks very much dude!
@@OliverHarperwasnt very norman he was brtish film critic way back in the q980s and 9ps
Waller - Bridge ruins what could have been a decent movie.
I do not agree with you mr #OliverHarper. There are three different films here, edited together to please everyone involved plus a tacked on ending seeing Helena Shaw snagg the fedora as the iris closes in on it. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was a better farewell and happier one!
I enjoyed it. Good adventure film. Was a bit long but didn’t drag. I also found it very loud in places. I feel it was done well and I certainly didn’t come out of there disappointed. Music was great. The cgi of him young was amazing. They could nearly pull off a whole film based earlier if they really wanted so given a couple more years or so for the technology to really hold out. The Nazi scenes were great, really felt like an Indy film. I’m glad they did it, although I’m a little sad it’s the last one. I’ve grown up with these movies.
"Loud" throughout, like Temple of Doom?
That's Lucasfilm sound for you, they're know for making movies with incredibly loud sound effects
Hey Oliver
I've listened to several of your videos while at work doing data entry
Especially the Star Trek series on each entry
So I knew you'd be a great source for finding out about the overall quality
I'll watch it
But probably at home
Cheers
Why did'nt they make Harrison into a Sean Connery type character? My dead grandpa does the same things he did in his 20s and 30s while dead...................... Dead, just like Indiana Jones films.
The Dial of Dysentery
The Dial of Disappointment
The Dire of Diarrhoea
I'll see it because I want to see how it ends. The original trilogy is untouchable!
It ended with the original trilogy. The last crusade was a perfect send off.
Don’t watch any spoilers. I cried a little at the end and enjoyed the movie much more that I thought I would.
With the exception of the first 30 minutes which were great, This movie didn't feel like an Indiana Jones film. The character of Helena is so annoying and pointless that she absolutely ruins the film and Indiana Jones feels like a broken old man. She's really mean and rude to him throughout. It was painful to watch and at points the film is just way too long. It should have been called Indiana Jones and the Abusive Care Giver.
It’s a fun film; just don’t expect anything groundbreaking.
@@roddymcape7697 you obviously never saw the film.