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The longest spin game in neoliberalism... and just think this all started because Reagan wanted to redefine the word liberal to mean him. Well played...(slow clap) well played.
Has anybody noticed the background yellow getting more or less saturated depending on how the reform party is doing? For example, The colors spark up when Perot gains the lead in the ‘96 election, When he jumps back in, and when Ventura wins the governor election
My prediction is that the background turns black in part 3, as Buchanan's candidacy leads to an immeasurably consequential Bush presidency which destroys our climate and budget. The butterfly ballot has got to be foreshadowing.
You know what, I would watch him read the phone book. Cause I know im probably going to get interesting facts on business, industry's and towns that I had no clue about.
That seemed like a pretty normal sentence for a lot of 2016, too. And now his running mate is the same sort of paleoconservative that he was drafted in to oppose.
@@cranapple3367 all of its relative the older one gets the more the past is relevant cause theres so much of it to see while the futures more dim. this wouldnt happen if we put an age cap im thinking 65 would be appropriate. it would only make sense. too bad well only get this if were lucky a few good apples sneak into high office through a system inherently designed to destroy them. or by riot which is sometimes as effective.
Crazy how Jesse Ventura and Donald Trump have diverged so much since this all went down. Jesse, for his part, essentially remained the reform minded fiscal conservative with socially progressive views(which is my kind of guy) who recently was invited by Democrat Tim Walz to attend the signing of the bill that legalized weed in Minnesota. Something Jesse himself was unsuccessful in achieving during his time as governor. Donald, however, became Pat Buchanan
I’m not exactly sure that Trump is Buchanan level. Trump is decidedly *neutral* on abortion, is anti-war, has a Jewish son in law, and generally supports fiscal responsibility. Trumps got his flaws, sure. Said some stuff that he probably regrets? Sure. But Joe Biden is on video *literally* saying that black people are inferior, which is wayyyyy worse than anything Trump has ever said.
Moments I particularly liked 1) Donald Trump as the reform party's last hope 2) the animation of a block slapping another block 3) Ventura's political ads 4) the reform silly party
The story telling in this video brought me to tears at the end. I'm crying over a show that is entirely charts, graphs, and the occasional news clipping
The moment Ventura became governor he became defacto leader of the Reform movement, they should have realized this. The party should have re engineered around his ideas as to replicate success elsewhere and also to be focused on aiding him.
As someone who was interning on a public affairs show in Minnesota where Jesse guested many times the summer/fall of '98, here's what's important that you left out: 1) The BIGGEST point - there was now same-day registration for voting. So yes, Ventura dominated the youth vote but think how many were really out because of Jesse and no one/thing else, and didn't have to register well ahead of time as they did in the past. 2) The DFL state convention chose Mike Freeman, not Humphrey, to be their candidate to be governor. When he wasn't polling anywhere near Coleman's totals, the push toward the primary in September was for state Attorney General Skip Humphrey, in their theory a more marketable name, but in essence gave him less time to campaign with the party 100% behind him. 3) Coleman was viewed by a lot of Democrats (at least the ones I talked to at the time) as being too conservative when he WAS a Democrat. When he went Republican, he went all in...which (as Jesse pointed out) did seem to have leave some independent voters wondering how one person could change their values so strongly in such a short time. 4) Dean Barkley (outside of Jesse, which is an acknowledged large gap) was probably the most successful 3rd party candidate in the state's recent history. You could do a video on him. As 1998 went on, it was something else seeing Ventura initially interviewed separately from other candidates (because the press didn't take him seriously). Once he was involved, he won each and every debate. Honestly, the biggest hurdle Ventura had was the press. Face to face, to a lowly intern, he was incredibly polite and engaging. That, in combination with his forthright stances on policy (and very clearly taking the campaign seriously) won him the job.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but was Norm Coleman a moderate or establishment Republican senator in the 2000’s? Just curious because it sounds like his record was that, but in 2020 and 2024 he endorsed Trump, and he said foreign policy is the main thing that impressed him. And if there’s no same day registration, or otherwise Ventura wasn’t there, do you think Coleman or Humphrey would have won more likely?
Yeah, who would have thought the former professional wrestler who actually put forward thoughtful, progressive social policy would clean up in the 18-34 Male demo? In all seriousness, this seems obvious in hindsight, but I would like to think that someone from the 2 major parties, whether it be an advisor or even an intern would have seen this factor and said....something? Anything at all?
You know, Jon's diatribe against Pat Buchanan starting at 26:19 makes me respect Jon all the more for refusing to gloss over the arseholes in this story. That whole sequence is just art.
You know, I thought that if you were to tell me a Republican-allied politician in the 80's named Pat were to break away to a third party, I would have guessed professional grifter and long-time televangelist Pat Robertson. I mean, I was close. At least in terms of their beliefs.
@@david88497 His civilization of *checks notes* self-proclaimed white supremacists, secessionists, Hitler admirers, etc. Need I go on? Even many Republicans didn't want to associate with the guy. It's why he left the party in the first place.
I love how Bois fans (myself included) know his stock music cues by name I especially appreciate the irony of showing Donald Trump underneath the song called "Real Friends"
@@1998_MINThe two music cues I wish I could find and have asked about before to no replies are: 1. swirling keyboard music that played during the majority of the oldest Dorktown videos (ex: the ones on Adam Dunn and on Rickey Henderson from 2018 or so). And 2. The very first keyboard track in that one Fumble Dimension that Kofie and Jon did on the poorly designed golf courses. Neither video has music listed at the end of the video or in the description and I have never been able to ask anyone about them who knows what they are.
@@fortynights1513 I don't remember those offhand but I do know not every library track they use is on streaming. Lots of stuff by Paul Hardcastle for example
So a week ago, I bought some Topps political trading cards online from the ‘92 election to play Uno with. Cards like Bill playing sax, the Rainbow Coalition, Gay and Lesbian Rights, Rodney King, and Colin Powell. And then I got a name I didn’t expect, but then remembered he was a Republican primary candidate for the presidency as a Louisiana legislator. And he got stomped in the primary and joined the Reform Party in 1999. So I was spoiled on who the fascist is in Part 3, and likely also know why there is a little spot to the right of Buchanan. Some of y’all are not ready.
@@fortynights1513I thought he was in the House of Representatives. Never mind, he was a state legislator, but he did give Senator Johnson his closest Senate reelection race back in 1990.
My grandfather died a few weeks ago, and as I was cleaning out his house I found a well-worn Ross Perot hat. It’s worth noting that my grandfather was pretty staunchly apolitical, which might be an oxymoron. Anyway, I think Perot really touched people like my grandfather that were exhausted with the “business as usual” politics and were willing to overlook some occasionally problematic views. I like to think that he just wanted someone who was relatable. Fast forward to 2016, I remember him saying in passing “that Bernie guy makes sense. He seems like a good man.” Ross Perot was responsible for Buchanan and accepted racism throughout his career. But somehow his character strikes a similar chord with folks as an independent like Bernie who is a lifelong advocate for equality and social justice. They’re just funny lil guys who truly want to fix a broken system in the only ways they know how, for better or for worse.
@@pokehybridtrainer At least Bernie stood firm and true to his own beliefs above all else, all things considered. Plus if Kamala wins, her vice president appears to be the closest guy to Bernie we have yet.
Guys…he shows his sources every time. That’s not character assassination, those are just factual things people said. You can pause and find them and read them. It is not character assassination to quote someone and then go “I don’t like this opinion, I think it’s bad.”
i have two big takeaways. one is that the us political system is rotten to the core and that we need way stronger and more extreme forces than the reform party if were gonna make things better. the other is that the month initials of july thru november spell "JASON".
It's both so sad to see Gargan be exiled by the very party he started but also extremely funny seeing a slap fight reenacted using just rectangular prisms
I haven't heard anyone describe so well what's behind the movements that sought to change anything, yes, it's a lot of anger, an incredible amount of fury at the powerful who don't care (or doesn't seem to care) about anyone else but themselves, while failing completely to acknolewdge the fact that they need to, in order to survive; but it also has the same amount of love, for those close to you and other people you might never meet or even see, but you care about, love for your country, your community, and everyone in it, a love for having something better for everybody, not just you. I'm not american, and that bit got me emotional because I´ve been there, sitting in a corner watching lots of people berating the very ideas they should be rooting for, fortunately, I also witnessed what happens when people realize it's not about them, it's about all of us, and I do sincerely hope and pray it happens in the US, because you had (and should get back) an incredible country.
Can we all just appreciate how great it was to be a Minnesotan in the late fall of 1998 I myself was a toddler but between Jesse Ventura and Randy Moss, other states couldn't tell us nothing
I can’t imagine how Gargan must have felt as he watched the party that he helped to create literally scream at him and disintegrate right in front of him on that Nashville stage. I think if I were him, I would have cried too
I’ve already watched this series on Patreon and I just have to say I genuinely think this series deserves fancy journalism awards. Incredible storytelling and examination of a fascinating bit of political history. Bravo, Secret Base (and Jon) 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Is Brooklyn Park in Hennepin County? Also fun Minnesota political factoid for you: The city of Minnetrista has backed all GOP presidential candidates since at least 1956.
"It's enough to make you wonder if we are capable of anything else." (36:26) God damn that hurts. With RFK Jr. recently taking the wheels off the cart, I don't need to see part 3 to feel the endgame doom on this mf'er. Brave, polarizing work by the Secret Base team. Thanks for making us look in the mirror. It's so difficult, and ugly. But I feel oddly optimistic, actually. Just like that laughably silly 22 year old who checked the box for Perot in '92.
Going to correct you on the deficit and surplus. Around 1994-1995 the internet started to take off. Which meant new dynamics in the economy started to happen. This caused unprecedented growth in the markets coupled with a Bush Tax increase helped balance the budget. It had nothing to do with reform or what they did or advocated for.
I j rested for and pregamed tf out of party only for it to have 20 ppl none of whom were talking n no fun attractions. I was expecting to have nothing else to do with all my energy tonight. Jon, you saved my night with this drop. Thank you.
Knew it was only a matter of time before John Bois would bring his skill with making pretty graphs and charts into the political sphere. I wanna see John with a big board like Steve Kornacki doing election night coverage on November 5th!
Back when this was first up on patreon I went on a date with a girl and, halfway through, she paid for the sbnation patreon so we could watch the full series. Lesbians are so cool c:
@@kafkaesque6459 He's been a better organizer since leaving office. He remains broadly popular and willing to throw his weight behind candidates who align with his values, and an endorsement by Jesse Ventura is usually a good way to get elected.
Its not really the overall point of this story. Ventura spent a mere 2 years in the party and it came undone so badly so quickly because of the infighting that warded him off from sticking to it for long
@@kafkaesque6459 That's my understanding too, and it really ended up making him an ineffective leader. But he also did make some bad decisions, and Minnesota was in a much worse place financially when he left office than when he took it. He came in with a $3 million surplus and left with a $4.5 million deficit.
Jesse Ventura seems great - hell, I honestly would have voted for him if I was of age at the time - until you actually have to _live with him_ as your governor. He is _well_ hated in MN. I remember in my childhood neighborhood, a very low-income area, was a "billboard" (really just a large painted part of someone's apartment) with a plushie of Ventura with the caption "Minesota's Worst Governor". It could have very easily been vandalized, but nobody ever did. Except for when Tim Pawlenty was (somehow) elected, when the owner amended it to "Minnesota's _2nd_ Worst Governor".
Jesse's legacy - much like the man himself - is complicated and polarizing. It's absolutely true that his stubbornness and his unique talent for getting into petty squabbles resulted in mass chaos and governmental gridlock, and as a result there's a pretty compelling claim that he was one of the least effective governors the state ever had. It's also true that his dogged idealism and candor permanently shifted public sentiment on the causes he championed, and many of those causes have gone on to define the political landscape of both Minnesota and the country in the 25 years since, and as a "voice of the people" he still maintains a strong following and presence to this day.
Holy. ****. This video just made me realize my very first vote I ever cast was apparently for a member of the political party that was key in bringing Trump into active politics. 35:00 this will no doubt retroactively age very poorly. Wait, does that mean it will age like a calf?? 🤔
Idk if that ages as poorly as the people that didn't know biden was in politics long enough to be a major player in most of the bad choices from the 70s up to now, focus on the reform party dawg
@@senLuno so the people that for some reason didn’t know that a lifelong politician was a lifelong politician, are going to age poorly? What, do you get like extra wrinkles if you didn’t know that?
How does he do it? Jon Bois can weave an array of words on a topic that i have very little interest in and make feel so devastatingly beautiful and sad all at once.
Who does your music? I unironically enjoy the hell out of 80s/90s shopping muzak, and these Reform videos have been a real pleasure to listen to as well as watch. Looking forward to part 3!
He's got a Spotify playlist for this and several other series. I love the music too! Mostly KPM library instrumentals by guys like Keith Mansfield and Alan Hawkshaw
this the first time i had to watch a part one again because when part 2 came out in was such an insane time in the future i completely forgot what part 1 was about at all lmao
That 2010-2014 bed is unintentionally one of the funniest things I’ve seen
Am i dumb? What am I missing?
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@@mnguyen313 unbelievable that you figured this out
@mnguyen313 I read this in Jon Bois’s voice, lol
I can't believe you told a story so well that I was so pissed at Ross Perot that I was thinking, 'Oh thank god Trump's here.'
“Somebody tag in Donald Trump. Please save us Donald Trump.”
Trump is the worst human alive in America today.
Like Joseph Joestar being glad to see the Nazis in Jojo.
The longest spin game in neoliberalism... and just think this all started because Reagan wanted to redefine the word liberal to mean him. Well played...(slow clap) well played.
“Thank god finally someone with some sense”
As far unions, keep in mind Ventura literally led the attempt to unionize wrestling, almost pulled it off arguably
If it wasn't for Hogan snitching he would have succeeded too
@@dweebyllo8615 and also Vince being the devil that he is
@@TMthe33rdWELCOME BACK TO YOUR DAILY REMIDNER THAN VINCE MCMAHON IS A GHOUL WHO SHOULD ROT
That’s not gonna work for me brother
@@dweebyllo8615Ofc it was Hogan
An yes, the triumphant return of my favorite sport: politics
Lowkey explains why it's only gotten 39k views
Oh no, I meant that unironically. Jon Bois could explain concrete to me and I'd be seated
Its a contact sport
The ultimate game
@@senLuno I demand a recount
I want Jesse Ventura vs Pat Buchanan 1 on 1 in Hell in a Cell
With special guest referee Glenn Jacobs.
Why did the Reform Party become so prominent? Ross Perot.
Why did the Reform Party collapse so quickly? Ross Perot.
And Pat Buchanan as well for the latter.
@@crazyluigi6664 Pat Buchanan would be lightyears away from the party if Ross didn't fling open the door for him
@@someasiandude4797 Aye, fair enough, then.
2014 Bed must be studied in depth while is non patrons wait 34 months for the next series
Has anybody noticed the background yellow getting more or less saturated depending on how the reform party is doing? For example, The colors spark up when Perot gains the lead in the ‘96 election, When he jumps back in, and when Ventura wins the governor election
Damn! Good catch!
The landscape first turns yellow in part 1 at 13:02, when polling numbers suggest Perot is outperforming expectation
And at the end of the episode its almost a grey color as the party dies.
My prediction is that the background turns black in part 3, as Buchanan's candidacy leads to an immeasurably consequential Bush presidency which destroys our climate and budget.
The butterfly ballot has got to be foreshadowing.
I’d watch Jon Bois read the phone book. He makes anything interesting.
He’s a great, engaging narrator.
Just needs charts now. And light jazz
Yes his Kickoffs video was the first time in my life I ever wanted to learn more about American Football (I am not American)
You know what, I would watch him read the phone book. Cause I know im probably going to get interesting facts on business, industry's and towns that I had no clue about.
Well. As long as there are charts.
For those of you who haven’t seen parts 2 and 3 yet… you’re gonna love it. The story only gets better from here.
I lived it, watching the news and reading the papers way back when. It's a wild ride.
way to flex on us poors, KALVIN
It really is good, though
There’s gonna be a part three? 😮
@@tropicarls yup, believe it comes out 1 week after part 2 debuted
“Can trump win the presidency, of course not its never gonna happen” its hilarious how that would be a perfectly normal sentence pre 2016
That seemed like a pretty normal sentence for a lot of 2016, too.
And now his running mate is the same sort of paleoconservative that he was drafted in to oppose.
@@cranapple3367 all of its relative the older one gets the more the past is relevant cause theres so much of it to see while the futures more dim. this wouldnt happen if we put an age cap im thinking 65 would be appropriate. it would only make sense. too bad well only get this if were lucky a few good apples sneak into high office through a system inherently designed to destroy them. or by riot which is sometimes as effective.
@@cranapple3367not even a paleoconservative he’s highkey a straight up Christofascist, you can see all the freaks he hangs out with like Curtis Yarvin
@@cranapple3367
Don’t you mean paleoconsofative?
Hillary was the only candidate that could have, God willing, been beaten by Donald Trump
calling buchanan a "human margin of error" is just the best way to describe the man isn't it
man I hope I never give anybody reason to speak on my name the way Jon went in on Pat
No different than Trump at all. It's the same person.
Breaking out my Jesse Ventura action figure for this one.
I've seen one in a museum before! He actually came with an athletics uniform from my high school because he was a volunteer coach there!
Crazy how Jesse Ventura and Donald Trump have diverged so much since this all went down.
Jesse, for his part, essentially remained the reform minded fiscal conservative with socially progressive views(which is my kind of guy) who recently was invited by Democrat Tim Walz to attend the signing of the bill that legalized weed in Minnesota. Something Jesse himself was unsuccessful in achieving during his time as governor.
Donald, however, became Pat Buchanan
He also became President
I’m not exactly sure that Trump is Buchanan level. Trump is decidedly *neutral* on abortion, is anti-war, has a Jewish son in law, and generally supports fiscal responsibility. Trumps got his flaws, sure. Said some stuff that he probably regrets? Sure. But Joe Biden is on video *literally* saying that black people are inferior, which is wayyyyy worse than anything Trump has ever said.
@@dakruise1 unfortunately
The politics and authoritarianism of Pat Buchanan, with the brain of Grandpa Simpson.
Donald became the worst human being alive in America.
heads up to the admins, there's an unrelated clip superimposed over the video at 1:39
Dude I thought i was going insane
Yeah what the hell is that??
Gotta know about that 2010-2014 bed
yeah, im not sure what happened there lol
avgn futon moment
Moments I particularly liked
1) Donald Trump as the reform party's last hope
2) the animation of a block slapping another block
3) Ventura's political ads
4) the reform silly party
Part of me wished we had the footage of that meeting
I would have only like Trump being involved if that was the last time I ever heard his name.
@@janedoe3043 It's just very ironic and unexpected.
@@fortynights1513 I believe they do have footage Jon couldn't show it because of copyright, but he mentioned that he was able to see it
@@nahometesfay1112I wish he could link it somewhere
It's funny how Side 1 and Side 2 ends up being "The Unelectable Side" vs "The Electable Side"
Not at all echoed by any recent events, of course.
The story telling in this video brought me to tears at the end. I'm crying over a show that is entirely charts, graphs, and the occasional news clipping
Because it shows the destruction of our country?
i literally graduated between the first video and now
So real
first of all congratulations
I'd forgotten this series was a thing
The moment Ventura became governor he became defacto leader of the Reform movement, they should have realized this. The party should have re engineered around his ideas as to replicate success elsewhere and also to be focused on aiding him.
yeah, but Ross Perot didn't want to cede power.
Trump's entry into this story was the most incredible jumpscare. Never change Jon, this was perfect
As someone who was interning on a public affairs show in Minnesota where Jesse guested many times the summer/fall of '98, here's what's important that you left out:
1) The BIGGEST point - there was now same-day registration for voting. So yes, Ventura dominated the youth vote but think how many were really out because of Jesse and no one/thing else, and didn't have to register well ahead of time as they did in the past.
2) The DFL state convention chose Mike Freeman, not Humphrey, to be their candidate to be governor. When he wasn't polling anywhere near Coleman's totals, the push toward the primary in September was for state Attorney General Skip Humphrey, in their theory a more marketable name, but in essence gave him less time to campaign with the party 100% behind him.
3) Coleman was viewed by a lot of Democrats (at least the ones I talked to at the time) as being too conservative when he WAS a Democrat. When he went Republican, he went all in...which (as Jesse pointed out) did seem to have leave some independent voters wondering how one person could change their values so strongly in such a short time.
4) Dean Barkley (outside of Jesse, which is an acknowledged large gap) was probably the most successful 3rd party candidate in the state's recent history. You could do a video on him.
As 1998 went on, it was something else seeing Ventura initially interviewed separately from other candidates (because the press didn't take him seriously). Once he was involved, he won each and every debate. Honestly, the biggest hurdle Ventura had was the press. Face to face, to a lowly intern, he was incredibly polite and engaging. That, in combination with his forthright stances on policy (and very clearly taking the campaign seriously) won him the job.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but was Norm Coleman a moderate or establishment Republican senator in the 2000’s?
Just curious because it sounds like his record was that, but in 2020 and 2024 he endorsed Trump, and he said foreign policy is the main thing that impressed him.
And if there’s no same day registration, or otherwise Ventura wasn’t there, do you think Coleman or Humphrey would have won more likely?
Already watched this and part 3 twice. Y'all are in for a treat.
Seconded because I've watched both parts 2 and 3 about five or six times now. I can't get enough of it. Y'all better make sure you tune in!
I'm 16 mins in and I'm already excited for part 3
I am very intrigued to see how what’s left of it played out after watching part two.
@@fortynights1513 A crazy cast of characters left over, I'm sure.
I turned 18 in September 1998. Damn straight I voted for Jesse.
Yeah, who would have thought the former professional wrestler who actually put forward thoughtful, progressive social policy would clean up in the 18-34 Male demo? In all seriousness, this seems obvious in hindsight, but I would like to think that someone from the 2 major parties, whether it be an advisor or even an intern would have seen this factor and said....something? Anything at all?
Dude the Jack Morris music…I knew it was Pat Buchanan
Villain music
"There is a very tight correlation between knowing Pat Buchanan and disliking Pat Buchanan"
You know, Jon's diatribe against Pat Buchanan starting at 26:19 makes me respect Jon all the more for refusing to gloss over the arseholes in this story. That whole sequence is just art.
You know, I thought that if you were to tell me a Republican-allied politician in the 80's named Pat were to break away to a third party, I would have guessed professional grifter and long-time televangelist Pat Robertson.
I mean, I was close. At least in terms of their beliefs.
☝️🤓
Yeah, Buchanan sure is evil for *checks notes* advocating for his civilization
@@david88497 His civilization of *checks notes* self-proclaimed white supremacists, secessionists, Hitler admirers, etc. Need I go on? Even many Republicans didn't want to associate with the guy. It's why he left the party in the first place.
@@david88497 Hey, we found David Duke!
jack gargan got Cloud Traveller treatment. he has attained immortality
I love how Bois fans (myself included) know his stock music cues by name
I especially appreciate the irony of showing Donald Trump underneath the song called "Real Friends"
@@1998_MINThe two music cues I wish I could find and have asked about before to no replies are:
1. swirling keyboard music that played during the majority of the oldest Dorktown videos (ex: the ones on Adam Dunn and on Rickey Henderson from 2018 or so).
And 2. The very first keyboard track in that one Fumble Dimension that Kofie and Jon did on the poorly designed golf courses.
Neither video has music listed at the end of the video or in the description and I have never been able to ask anyone about them who knows what they are.
@@fortynights1513 I don't remember those offhand but I do know not every library track they use is on streaming. Lots of stuff by Paul Hardcastle for example
Brilliant video. Ego started the reform party. Ego ended the reform party
So a week ago, I bought some Topps political trading cards online from the ‘92 election to play Uno with. Cards like Bill playing sax, the Rainbow Coalition, Gay and Lesbian Rights, Rodney King, and Colin Powell. And then I got a name I didn’t expect, but then remembered he was a Republican primary candidate for the presidency as a Louisiana legislator. And he got stomped in the primary and joined the Reform Party in 1999.
So I was spoiled on who the fascist is in Part 3, and likely also know why there is a little spot to the right of Buchanan. Some of y’all are not ready.
My best guess is David Duke for that one spot in the corner.
@@fortynights1513I thought he was in the House of Representatives.
Never mind, he was a state legislator, but he did give Senator Johnson his closest Senate reelection race back in 1990.
@@DiamondKingStudiosFun fact about Louisiana:
They were the last state to popularly elect a Republican senator, doing so for the first time in 2004.
My grandfather died a few weeks ago, and as I was cleaning out his house I found a well-worn Ross Perot hat. It’s worth noting that my grandfather was pretty staunchly apolitical, which might be an oxymoron. Anyway, I think Perot really touched people like my grandfather that were exhausted with the “business as usual” politics and were willing to overlook some occasionally problematic views. I like to think that he just wanted someone who was relatable.
Fast forward to 2016, I remember him saying in passing “that Bernie guy makes sense. He seems like a good man.”
Ross Perot was responsible for Buchanan and accepted racism throughout his career. But somehow his character strikes a similar chord with folks as an independent like Bernie who is a lifelong advocate for equality and social justice. They’re just funny lil guys who truly want to fix a broken system in the only ways they know how, for better or for worse.
Like Burnie, the party they were affiliated with screwed them over. Damn it Perot. Damn it Hillary. We were on the edge of greatness.
@@pokehybridtrainer At least Bernie stood firm and true to his own beliefs above all else, all things considered. Plus if Kamala wins, her vice president appears to be the closest guy to Bernie we have yet.
Still can't believe Pretty Good is back
Guys…he shows his sources every time. That’s not character assassination, those are just factual things people said. You can pause and find them and read them. It is not character assassination to quote someone and then go “I don’t like this opinion, I think it’s bad.”
Not me crying over a dead political party from 2000 😭 I still love you Jack Gargan
Ya know, maybe the Reform Silly Party's stance on term limits isn't so bad
Execution, on the other hand, is a bit too much...
Ross Perot was just the Hulk Hogan of the Reform Party
I can't wait until the three part series about James B. Weaver's Populist/People's Party!!!
i have two big takeaways. one is that the us political system is rotten to the core and that we need way stronger and more extreme forces than the reform party if were gonna make things better. the other is that the month initials of july thru november spell "JASON".
I mean, there is an overarching power from which all representatives draw their power
Well, if people don't vote Trump away this fall, it's over. He has made it clear he wants democracy to end.
@@janedoe3043 democracy is already dead and the two party system killed it
Jesus Christ it's Jason December
I miss Vine
Man, that retelling of the meeting really got me.
that reenactment hits me every time
It's both so sad to see Gargan be exiled by the very party he started but also extremely funny seeing a slap fight reenacted using just rectangular prisms
Jon's reading of Pat Buchanan is right on the money. Hunter S. Thompson said he was fun to drink with, because he never hid his awfulness.
I haven't heard anyone describe so well what's behind the movements that sought to change anything, yes, it's a lot of anger, an incredible amount of fury at the powerful who don't care (or doesn't seem to care) about anyone else but themselves, while failing completely to acknolewdge the fact that they need to, in order to survive; but it also has the same amount of love, for those close to you and other people you might never meet or even see, but you care about, love for your country, your community, and everyone in it, a love for having something better for everybody, not just you.
I'm not american, and that bit got me emotional because I´ve been there, sitting in a corner watching lots of people berating the very ideas they should be rooting for, fortunately, I also witnessed what happens when people realize it's not about them, it's about all of us, and I do sincerely hope and pray it happens in the US, because you had (and should get back) an incredible country.
Can we all just appreciate how great it was to be a Minnesotan in the late fall of 1998
I myself was a toddler but between Jesse Ventura and Randy Moss, other states couldn't tell us nothing
I can’t imagine how Gargan must have felt as he watched the party that he helped to create literally scream at him and disintegrate right in front of him on that Nashville stage. I think if I were him, I would have cried too
Why did this make me sad? 😂 Jon has a real talent for story telling! Speaks volumes.
I’ve already watched this series on Patreon and I just have to say I genuinely think this series deserves fancy journalism awards. Incredible storytelling and examination of a fascinating bit of political history. Bravo, Secret Base (and Jon) 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Jon Bois could literally say “…and then, there’s this guy (or x thing happens)” for any event and it will give you goosebumps
2010-2014 bed ‼️‼️🔥🔥
It's 2024 and this legend might be hosting Saturday Night's Main Event on NBC again soon
I grew up in Brooklyn park Minnesota. It was an interesting ride to watch
Is Brooklyn Park in Hennepin County?
Also fun Minnesota political factoid for you: The city of Minnetrista has backed all GOP presidential candidates since at least 1956.
@@fortynights1513Typical Minnetrista brainrot
If all the other content weren't enough, calling Buchanan a POS for ten minutes was, and now I'm rushing over to Patreon ❤❤❤
Jesse Ventura is the GOAT!
34:59 like that could ever happen
Wrong timestamp, buster
Too busy trying to fish for likes, loser.
@@borger99thank you I was watching it live
13:35 I love how the bar graph goes to heaven lol
Laughed heartily at "Term Limits with Dignity" policy of one of the Reform Party clones.
"It's enough to make you wonder if we are capable of anything else." (36:26)
God damn that hurts. With RFK Jr. recently taking the wheels off the cart, I don't need to see part 3 to feel the endgame doom on this mf'er. Brave, polarizing work by the Secret Base team. Thanks for making us look in the mirror. It's so difficult, and ugly. But I feel oddly optimistic, actually. Just like that laughably silly 22 year old who checked the box for Perot in '92.
Enjoyed part 1! Looking forward to part 2!!
This reaffirms the fact that Jesse Ventura is just a truly unique political figure and deserved a way better party than reform.
Brb, I gotta go rewatch part 1 because I forgot most of it
Most people cite books and media for amazing stories and riveting plots. I cite US history.
Anyone else distracted by the name "JASON D." popping out at you all the time in this video?
I’m excited for part three
Jesse Ventura's victory is honestly one of the most mind-blowing things in American history.
Part 1 is... Pretty Good!
Part 2 is... Pretty... Good?
that's fiscal conservatives for you; bickering into ever smaller factions
A Bois video is the only kind of video that I like before I watch it.
Going to correct you on the deficit and surplus. Around 1994-1995 the internet started to take off. Which meant new dynamics in the economy started to happen. This caused unprecedented growth in the markets coupled with a Bush Tax increase helped balance the budget. It had nothing to do with reform or what they did or advocated for.
My parents both voted for Ventura because they thought the other two were just the same old politicians
Hell yea… I was “mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore” but now I’m…pretty good🤓
I j rested for and pregamed tf out of party only for it to have 20 ppl none of whom were talking n no fun attractions. I was expecting to have nothing else to do with all my energy tonight. Jon, you saved my night with this drop. Thank you.
35:00 the very definition of "laughing mirthlessly" is what I just did
Donald Trump showing up hit me harder than Samuel L Jackson in Iron Man's post credit scene on opening weekend.
That was awesome, very fascinating story. Cant wait for Part 3
good for Ventura. seems like he got out without getting burned tooooo badly. I hope. I'm scared for episode 3
Just want to remind everyone Secret Base is owned by a company worth 500 million dollars
Vox Media, who also owns SB Nation, which this channel used to be named after.
Knew it was only a matter of time before John Bois would bring his skill with making pretty graphs and charts into the political sphere. I wanna see John with a big board like Steve Kornacki doing election night coverage on November 5th!
What network is Kornacki?
Back when this was first up on patreon I went on a date with a girl and, halfway through, she paid for the sbnation patreon so we could watch the full series. Lesbians are so cool c:
How did the date go?
@@DHVF28 I lose my virginity lol
Wait are you the one who posted on Reddit or are there just loads of lesbian couple Secret Base Patreon subscribers out there
@@yeggog YES that's me ^_^
@@camsonsNice!
This is pretty good.
I love it, but given that the Ventura administration was the only time the reform party held power and is given zero time is very disappointing.
From what I've heard, Ventura had a really hard time getting along with anyone, and couldn't get almost anything passed.
@@kafkaesque6459 He's been a better organizer since leaving office. He remains broadly popular and willing to throw his weight behind candidates who align with his values, and an endorsement by Jesse Ventura is usually a good way to get elected.
Its not really the overall point of this story. Ventura spent a mere 2 years in the party and it came undone so badly so quickly because of the infighting that warded him off from sticking to it for long
@@kafkaesque6459 That's my understanding too, and it really ended up making him an ineffective leader. But he also did make some bad decisions, and Minnesota was in a much worse place financially when he left office than when he took it. He came in with a $3 million surplus and left with a $4.5 million deficit.
Jesse Ventura seems great - hell, I honestly would have voted for him if I was of age at the time - until you actually have to _live with him_ as your governor. He is _well_ hated in MN. I remember in my childhood neighborhood, a very low-income area, was a "billboard" (really just a large painted part of someone's apartment) with a plushie of Ventura with the caption "Minesota's Worst Governor". It could have very easily been vandalized, but nobody ever did. Except for when Tim Pawlenty was (somehow) elected, when the owner amended it to "Minnesota's _2nd_ Worst Governor".
Jesse's legacy - much like the man himself - is complicated and polarizing. It's absolutely true that his stubbornness and his unique talent for getting into petty squabbles resulted in mass chaos and governmental gridlock, and as a result there's a pretty compelling claim that he was one of the least effective governors the state ever had. It's also true that his dogged idealism and candor permanently shifted public sentiment on the causes he championed, and many of those causes have gone on to define the political landscape of both Minnesota and the country in the 25 years since, and as a "voice of the people" he still maintains a strong following and presence to this day.
honestly I'm all for Reform Silly Party
Holy. ****. This video just made me realize my very first vote I ever cast was apparently for a member of the political party that was key in bringing Trump into active politics.
35:00 this will no doubt retroactively age very poorly. Wait, does that mean it will age like a calf?? 🤔
Idk if that ages as poorly as the people that didn't know biden was in politics long enough to be a major player in most of the bad choices from the 70s up to now, focus on the reform party dawg
@@senLuno so the people that for some reason didn’t know that a lifelong politician was a lifelong politician, are going to age poorly? What, do you get like extra wrinkles if you didn’t know that?
21:26 Subtitles say "(indistinct)". Word said is "Perotness".
Yeah, I have no idea why indistinct had to be put in there...
Huge shoutout to everyone so far in the comments who have seen part 3 on Patreon and refuse to spoil it, no matter how insane it seems to get later
this series really just proves that as much good politics as you get you are never immune to common pettiness. humans are not good at this XD
thanks
There is 12 minutes left and I’m baffled that there is somehow a part 3 to all this
How does he do it? Jon Bois can weave an array of words on a topic that i have very little interest in and make feel so devastatingly beautiful and sad all at once.
Me after saying "No please can we get someone else, anyone else but Buchanan!"
The Monkey's Paw 32:53
Jon Bois makes the best prezis of all time
Who does your music? I unironically enjoy the hell out of 80s/90s shopping muzak, and these Reform videos have been a real pleasure to listen to as well as watch. Looking forward to part 3!
He's got a Spotify playlist for this and several other series. I love the music too! Mostly KPM library instrumentals by guys like Keith Mansfield and Alan Hawkshaw
Still can't believe I lived through all of this and it was extremely real.
Commenting to say: I'd love if you guys did more of these! Really good, only videos I've cared to watch on your channel!
The background music doesnt have to go this hard.
haha, first time watching a secret base video?
this the first time i had to watch a part one again because when part 2 came out in was such an insane time in the future i completely forgot what part 1 was about at all lmao
I’ve been waiting like 6 months for this
when he said ventura picked up the phone I was fully expecting that "hey uhh... bud?"
2000 was my first presidential election. There are parts of this video that made me almost inhale my lips. It hurts so much.
He got me hooked with the sports now I'm just here for the graphs
Fortunately, it ended up being totally unimportant who was President from 2001 to 2005.