I'm a devoted Periphery rat and I will never forgive Comstar for what they did regarding the Tripitz. We nearly had a Star League era WarShip flying Periphery colours. I seethe every single goddamn day.
Since they are dead, how do you feel about its replacement "clan sea fox". Also do u think a rebirth of 3 triple alliance of CC, MC and TC aka 3Cs can cripple the weakened Davion
And how long would it KEEP flying??? One of the little things Battletech skips over is how much constant maintenance & expensive support such complex spacecraft would need. And what are "Periphery colours"? They aren't notably more unified than the Successor States.
@@ALV694 I find the notion of cooperation between different Periphery states very appealing. I would avoid getting too close to the Capellans and would prefer closer ties with non Great House powers. But this may be just wishful thinking. I really like the cooperation that developed between the Filtvelt Coalition, Fiefdom of Randis, Calderon Protectorate and to a lesser extent the Fronc Reaches.
I have 4 Companies and 2 Clan forces. Outworlds Alliance, Marian Hegemony, Magistracy of Canopus and Taurian Concordat with my Clans being Raven Alliance and Scorpion Empire. All Periphery all the time.
I began my career as a Periphery Rat, and 8 can attest that the TC is a Great House in all but name. It survived SLDF aggression better than most, and was spared the Clan Invasion ravages. With Liao posturing to move toward Terra in the ilClan era, I can see expansion or strengthening happening for the TC...with less of a constant bomb threat from the Capellans
Cappellans helped modernize the TC military but TC dissolved that alliance and got in another war with Davion, and as a result their industry got destroyed. Now they are back to being obsolete as they are forced to make retro tech mechs. Only another alliance with capellans can help rebuild their industry and tech AGAIN.
@@GeofftheIronwolf The Taurian industrial base was devastated by the Roughriders, and the Concordat lost yet more industrial production when the Federated Suns conquered a number of Taurian worlds. While the Concordat gained control over the worlds of the Pleiades Cluster, the military industry on Perdition and Taurus was effectively destroyed, while production facilities on Sterope, MacLeod's Land and Celano would take years to recover. The Concordat also lost worlds such as Perdition and Organo to the Federated Suns, losing more industry - and in the case of Organo, the Organo Flight Academy. The Concordat was forced to increase the production of RetroTech equipment in an era when the Inner Sphere nations were shutting down their own RetroTech production lines; the Taurian Defense Force had been so badly damaged that it was predicted that the enlarged production of RetroTech equipment would continue until at least 3086 as a part of the rebuilding effort.[21]
Of all the Periphery States, i like the Taurian Concordat the most. I just lost a lot of respect for them when they teamed up with Space North Korea and Space Misandry. Great video though!
Oh boy That man at 5:06 got some good reddish orange glasses and that security guard at 6:06 good luck getting past him I know veteran when I see scars on the face." Plus The Taurian Concordat is the place I would want to be living there especially since I love writing, horseback riding and scuba diving better than the places of the other inner sphere Realms." 😃👍
Hello Grim. I must admit here that I took quite a few pages from the Magistracy and Concordiat when I set up my own 'government'. Although my 'Constitutional Tyranny' is a bit 'weird', it works and has quite a few features of both worlds. Including the participation of the citizenry, good health care, education, and freedom to express opinions. The Tyrant is an 'elected' office, although drawn from only one family line and its scions. It acts quite a bit like the King or Queen of England in most respects. The 'day-to-day' governance of the Compact is headed by the Procouncil, who for the most part acts like the President of the United States of America. Including the assembly of a working group of Heads of Departments and a Procouncil's Staff. Since the government was founded by a Mercenary Company (which was actually a Battalion in size), the original Commander of the Mercs was elected as the First Tyrant of the Stygia System. The Tyrant demanded a representative government, without 'nobles', and thus the Constitutional Tyranny was born. For all intents and purposes, the Government under the Procouncil is representative of the population's desire for leaders. And it has many 'checks and balances' to keep it fairly and uniformly honest for the most part. Any 'seat holder' in any governmental posting can be subjected to a pretty intensive review if enough evidence is found for dishonesty. Being founded by a Mercenary Company that was betrayed in battle, as well as those they took with them into the Deep Periphery from many worlds, mostly the disaffected and 'poor', who were granted a new life on a new world, the citizens of the Compact are highly motivated to never again be under the kind of rule their ancestors suffered. Although this may all sound 'perfect', it is not. Being a government created by Humans, it has it's flaws and occasional 'hiccups', and even periods of outright 'dirty' politics.
The Taurian paranoia of the Federation was always an annoying feature of the setting. The two countries that should have been the most closely aligned, even shared a border. But the Taurians, always assuming that whatever was happening (even the Clan invasion) was just ruse by Davion's MIIO to get the Taurians to lower their guard so the Davions could invade (even though the Davions never really invaded - and never really had plans to). They even opened their doors to the Blakists because the Wobbies were hitting the Davions so hard. Even when the Wobbies dropped a flurry of meteors on New Samatha and leveled the city, the Taurians still blamed the Davions for it. It's interesting that it was exactly that paranoia that finally prompted the Calderons (long the ruling family of the Concordat) to succeed and form the Protectorate (which maintained relatively decent relations with the Federated Suns, especially to deal with the pirates around Tortuga. But, GDN you missed something important. The "unofficial religion" of the concordat: the Far Lookers - the closest thing to Starfleet you'll find in the Battletech setting.
@@randomguy966 actually accurate. Sadly there wars with Davion completely decimated their industry and now they are forced to manufacture retro tech mechs aka obsolete mechs. Their only hope is that the eventual reunification will help gain some new protectorate industries area, a new capellan alliance will finance the rebuilding of these industrial planets but at the cost of fighting in future capellan wars, though not the first time they allied with capellans.
Very Irish, West/ South European, Nordic mixed economy kind of faction. Could stretch it to a Teddy Roosevelt flavored space America before everything went down the shaiter! Its a " USA " rl USA would wish it could be.. well except the money addicted corpos. They prefer the todays rottn situation
@@angry_zergling u can't fool me prince Davion, it's alright, your nephew hasseks is once again safe in your hands, he just needed some taurian spanking
Yup... the Taurians are in practice what the Davions say they are. I've historically considered myself a Davion loyalist. I've since taken my modified Blackjack and, in the words of Tex, am full-on team "Hippity Hoppity Get Off My Property". No wonder trying to conquer the Taurians is like the IRL version of Red Dawn. You "defeat" the uniformed military? Cool. You just unlocked guerilla warfare hell for eternity....
Now taurians are stuck using retro tech mechs after their last war with Davion. They need another alliance with capellans to rebuild their industry and get some new tech
@ALV694 old tech is still effective if used correctly :-) a ppc still does the damage no matter what it's attached too :-) plus in guerilla fights the old tech isn't such a big loss when it inevitably gets destroyed :-)
@@lukedudley5030 but what if u encounter a Lance using ER ppc with hargel and partial wings. Not only are they going to outflank but outgun u and be more durable. Or u encounter a stealth mech with angel ecm that constantly tags u for missile strikes.
@@ALV694 in guerrilla warfare you pick the target and the battlefield...much of the better tech can be negated through treachery and experience...a war is won on logistics not the fight itself...whilst the better tech is hunting your distraction force the real hit takes out supply lines and support units making those high maintenance and complex machines quickly a weight around your neck rather than an asset :-) think about the 2nd World War...the nazi kept looking for the wonder weapons like the tiger tank but if they'd just built loads of panzer 4s they wouldve been far more effective..as proved by the sherman..objectively a worse tank than those fielded by the enemy but in more numbers and well used it often won the conflict.
@@lukedudley5030 u forget that any successful guerrilla force needs outside help either in the form of advisors or equipment. The partisans that kept targeting the nazis are sponsored by both America and Soviet union. Without outside help, the insurgency will get attritioned to death. In the closing days of capellans campaign against the republic of the sphere, the big Mac mercs encountered a huge contingent of industrial mechs being armed with whatever weapons they can find. The big Mac Lance only consisted of small "gún" mechs, u would think the insurgents would win, but the big Mac mechs comes equipped with tag, and later missiles from beyond the combat zone devasted the force, and survivors were mopped up by the small mechs. Hence the logical thing to do is go ally with capellans again, before Davion thinks it's a good time to end taurian menace
I'm a devoted Periphery rat and I will never forgive Comstar for what they did regarding the Tripitz. We nearly had a Star League era WarShip flying Periphery colours. I seethe every single goddamn day.
Since they are dead, how do you feel about its replacement "clan sea fox". Also do u think a rebirth of 3 triple alliance of CC, MC and TC aka 3Cs can cripple the weakened Davion
And how long would it KEEP flying??? One of the little things Battletech skips over is how much constant maintenance & expensive support such complex spacecraft would need.
And what are "Periphery colours"? They aren't notably more unified than the Successor States.
If they could even repair it enough to jump in the first place.
@@MM22966 capellans are more than happy to repair that warship so long as it's aimed at davion
@@ALV694 I find the notion of cooperation between different Periphery states very appealing. I would avoid getting too close to the Capellans and would prefer closer ties with non Great House powers. But this may be just wishful thinking. I really like the cooperation that developed between the Filtvelt Coalition, Fiefdom of Randis, Calderon Protectorate and to a lesser extent the Fronc Reaches.
The Periphery is just much cooler than the Inner Sphere
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I have 4 Companies and 2 Clan forces. Outworlds Alliance, Marian Hegemony, Magistracy of Canopus and Taurian Concordat with my Clans being Raven Alliance and Scorpion Empire. All Periphery all the time.
I began my career as a Periphery Rat, and 8 can attest that the TC is a Great House in all but name. It survived SLDF aggression better than most, and was spared the Clan Invasion ravages.
With Liao posturing to move toward Terra in the ilClan era, I can see expansion or strengthening happening for the TC...with less of a constant bomb threat from the Capellans
Cappellans helped modernize the TC military but TC dissolved that alliance and got in another war with Davion, and as a result their industry got destroyed. Now they are back to being obsolete as they are forced to make retro tech mechs. Only another alliance with capellans can help rebuild their industry and tech AGAIN.
If Norway and Texas had a baby
Thanks for the video. As a Taurian I thank you for showing how awesome or neck of space is.
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You're very welcome.
Do u think the taurians need another alliance with capellans to rebuild their industry since they are now stuck using retro tech mechs
@@ALV694 naaa they have enough industry to make Endo Steel and Ferro Fibrous armor. They'll be fine.
@@GeofftheIronwolf The Taurian industrial base was devastated by the Roughriders, and the Concordat lost yet more industrial production when the Federated Suns conquered a number of Taurian worlds. While the Concordat gained control over the worlds of the Pleiades Cluster, the military industry on Perdition and Taurus was effectively destroyed, while production facilities on Sterope, MacLeod's Land and Celano would take years to recover. The Concordat also lost worlds such as Perdition and Organo to the Federated Suns, losing more industry - and in the case of Organo, the Organo Flight Academy. The Concordat was forced to increase the production of RetroTech equipment in an era when the Inner Sphere nations were shutting down their own RetroTech production lines; the Taurian Defense Force had been so badly damaged that it was predicted that the enlarged production of RetroTech equipment would continue until at least 3086 as a part of the rebuilding effort.[21]
Also using the bull as a symbol being a dig at the Camerons.
What? Why?
@@MM22966 one of the Cameron's was killed by a bull. Brian Cameron 2403
@@g3heathen209 I thought that was it (but wasn't sure if I was confusing it with Dune). But...the Concordat was formed well before that, yeah?
@@MM22966 100 years previous, a unintentional dig but still a dig.
Love my Taurians.
They got that. Get off my lawn with nuclear force energy, that I just really, really like.
Of all the Periphery States, i like the Taurian Concordat the most. I just lost a lot of respect for them when they teamed up with Space North Korea and Space Misandry.
Great video though!
gotta get those meds from the space catgirls
Oh boy That man at 5:06 got some good reddish orange glasses and that security guard at 6:06 good luck getting past him I know veteran when I see scars on the face." Plus The Taurian Concordat is the place
I would want to be living there especially since I love writing, horseback riding and scuba diving better than the places of the other inner sphere
Realms." 😃👍
What about magistrate of Concordia
Robust narration on a favored State? MOAR!
Hello Grim.
I must admit here that I took quite a few pages from the Magistracy and Concordiat when I set up my own 'government'.
Although my 'Constitutional Tyranny' is a bit 'weird', it works and has quite a few features of both worlds. Including the participation of the citizenry, good health care, education, and freedom to express opinions.
The Tyrant is an 'elected' office, although drawn from only one family line and its scions. It acts quite a bit like the King or Queen of England in most respects. The 'day-to-day' governance of the Compact is headed by the Procouncil, who for the most part acts like the President of the United States of America. Including the assembly of a working group of Heads of Departments and a Procouncil's Staff.
Since the government was founded by a Mercenary Company (which was actually a Battalion in size), the original Commander of the Mercs was elected as the First Tyrant of the Stygia System. The Tyrant demanded a representative government, without 'nobles', and thus the Constitutional Tyranny was born. For all intents and purposes, the Government under the Procouncil is representative of the population's desire for leaders. And it has many 'checks and balances' to keep it fairly and uniformly honest for the most part. Any 'seat holder' in any governmental posting can be subjected to a pretty intensive review if enough evidence is found for dishonesty.
Being founded by a Mercenary Company that was betrayed in battle, as well as those they took with them into the Deep Periphery from many worlds, mostly the disaffected and 'poor', who were granted a new life on a new world, the citizens of the Compact are highly motivated to never again be under the kind of rule their ancestors suffered.
Although this may all sound 'perfect', it is not. Being a government created by Humans, it has it's flaws and occasional 'hiccups', and even periods of outright 'dirty' politics.
Thanks for the share, Frank!
The Taurian paranoia of the Federation was always an annoying feature of the setting. The two countries that should have been the most closely aligned, even shared a border. But the Taurians, always assuming that whatever was happening (even the Clan invasion) was just ruse by Davion's MIIO to get the Taurians to lower their guard so the Davions could invade (even though the Davions never really invaded - and never really had plans to).
They even opened their doors to the Blakists because the Wobbies were hitting the Davions so hard. Even when the Wobbies dropped a flurry of meteors on New Samatha and leveled the city, the Taurians still blamed the Davions for it.
It's interesting that it was exactly that paranoia that finally prompted the Calderons (long the ruling family of the Concordat) to succeed and form the Protectorate (which maintained relatively decent relations with the Federated Suns, especially to deal with the pirates around Tortuga.
But, GDN you missed something important. The "unofficial religion" of the concordat: the Far Lookers - the closest thing to Starfleet you'll find in the Battletech setting.
One day I'll hopefully get to cover the unique religions of Battletech.
Thank you for the excellent narration GDN😊 ...AND you have a healthy and awesome day yourself 😊
Likewise, sir!
Tuesday Tuesday Tuesday live with GDR.
Please do an Outworlds Alliance one next
It's coming soon.
Thank you so much!@@GrimDarkNarrator
Space Switzerland.
I'd say more like space Israel.
Not really
@@MM22966 how?
Space Finland.
@@randomguy966 actually accurate. Sadly there wars with Davion completely decimated their industry and now they are forced to manufacture retro tech mechs aka obsolete mechs.
Their only hope is that the eventual reunification will help gain some new protectorate industries area, a new capellan alliance will finance the rebuilding of these industrial planets but at the cost of fighting in future capellan wars, though not the first time they allied with capellans.
Now I need to move there.
So it's a significantly less dysfunctional and unified FreeWorlds League?
Don't Mess With Space Texas.
It's like... how Texas imagines itself 😅
lol
Very Irish, West/ South European, Nordic mixed economy kind of faction. Could stretch it to a Teddy Roosevelt flavored space America before everything went down the shaiter! Its a " USA " rl USA would wish it could be.. well except the money addicted corpos. They prefer the todays rottn situation
I heard living in the Taurian Concordat was a bunch of bullsh&t.
Davion is that u
Davion?
@@angry_zergling u can't fool me prince Davion, it's alright, your nephew hasseks is once again safe in your hands, he just needed some taurian spanking
Space America 😅
Except this America is smol and deeply scared by house Davion
I *WISH* America was this functional
Yup... the Taurians are in practice what the Davions say they are. I've historically considered myself a Davion loyalist. I've since taken my modified Blackjack and, in the words of Tex, am full-on team "Hippity Hoppity Get Off My Property".
No wonder trying to conquer the Taurians is like the IRL version of Red Dawn. You "defeat" the uniformed military? Cool. You just unlocked guerilla warfare hell for eternity....
Now taurians are stuck using retro tech mechs after their last war with Davion.
They need another alliance with capellans to rebuild their industry and get some new tech
@ALV694 old tech is still effective if used correctly :-) a ppc still does the damage no matter what it's attached too :-) plus in guerilla fights the old tech isn't such a big loss when it inevitably gets destroyed :-)
@@lukedudley5030 but what if u encounter a Lance using ER ppc with hargel and partial wings.
Not only are they going to outflank but outgun u and be more durable.
Or u encounter a stealth mech with angel ecm that constantly tags u for missile strikes.
@@ALV694 in guerrilla warfare you pick the target and the battlefield...much of the better tech can be negated through treachery and experience...a war is won on logistics not the fight itself...whilst the better tech is hunting your distraction force the real hit takes out supply lines and support units making those high maintenance and complex machines quickly a weight around your neck rather than an asset :-) think about the 2nd World War...the nazi kept looking for the wonder weapons like the tiger tank but if they'd just built loads of panzer 4s they wouldve been far more effective..as proved by the sherman..objectively a worse tank than those fielded by the enemy but in more numbers and well used it often won the conflict.
@@lukedudley5030 u forget that any successful guerrilla force needs outside help either in the form of advisors or equipment.
The partisans that kept targeting the nazis are sponsored by both America and Soviet union.
Without outside help, the insurgency will get attritioned to death.
In the closing days of capellans campaign against the republic of the sphere, the big Mac mercs encountered a huge contingent of industrial mechs being armed with whatever weapons they can find.
The big Mac Lance only consisted of small "gún" mechs, u would think the insurgents would win, but the big Mac mechs comes equipped with tag, and later missiles from beyond the combat zone devasted the force, and survivors were mopped up by the small mechs.
Hence the logical thing to do is go ally with capellans again, before Davion thinks it's a good time to end taurian menace