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FINALLY, A FELLOW SOUTH AFRICAN ANIME FAN. DUDE ID COME HOME EVERY DAY, WATCH ANIME FROM 17:00 TO 17:30 ON SABC 2 (either Bleach or Naruto) AND THEN WATCH THE POKÉMON EPISODE I RECORDED RIGHT AFTER. IT WAS SO BAD
I'd be more sad about this if mangaka could actually handle the stress of long running manga, but even with decades of examples to learn from, artists will be lucky to put out 200 Chapters before breaking down.
It's really bad honestly, even as someone who loves long running manga, I would honestly prefer these mangaka move to a magazine that allows them to publish at their own pace like Jump + or Jump Square
I always say this isn’t a problem. Mangaka having the opportunity to finish their mangas on their terms when they want instead of being forced by editors to keep it going (dragonball) or needlessly extending a series length well past the manga quality dipped long ago (naruto, bleach) is a good thing. Makes for more happier mangaka escaping the horrible throws of mangaka work lifestyles and ending their art on their terms when they want it to end. That’s not bad
But the samme time they should learn to not be as axwehappy to get series that fills that room. That have longlivity potential, if you let them. Its goof to have moderate long that in case get a sequel. Capitalism eh, never learns :( But weekly releases, that did , a lot harm too that its missing.
Dragon Ball wasn't forced to keep going. Toriyama ended it on his terms. The only thing his editors "forced" him to do was constantly change the villain for the Android/Cell saga.
If there's one thing Gege isn't doing is a good job, even if on their terms. But that's a lack of understanding of why doing stuff works for other series and not for theirs. All characters have been treated poorly up to this point
Bro you are completely right about long running shows, I fell in love with bleach in middle school and I’m now 22 years old, I have girlfriend who loves anime and we watched bleach together and it’s one of her favorites, one day she was crying at the end of the original series where everyone goes to an ice rink for fun and she just started crying out of nowhere and when I asked why she said it’s because everyone looks so much older. Even she, as someone who had only been watching for like a year felt like she grew with these characters and it really does mean a lot to the people watching
You kinda have to give it to seasonal. When continuously dropping episodes it’s harder to keep the anime behind the manga which either rushes the source material or forces filler episodes and arcs while they’re trying to put out chapters. Seasonal relieves stress on creators in my opinion and like you said when given time they can do great things.
Agreed, but some seasonal anime are catching up way to quickly to the manga source material, look at Bungo Stray Dogs, Spy x Family and The Case Study of Vanitas. They all got so popular to the point that the anime caught up to the manga and the mangaka haven't had enough time to create more chapters or because of the way they drop chapters, it's going very very slowly. I'm not saying this as an excuse to put out pointless fillers that drag out the story for no point btw, filler was, at least from my POV, always used to help mangaka with on-going stories to get far enough ahead that the studio didn't have to start pulling shit out of it's ass just to meet the weekly quota, it's one of the reasons why the bleach adaptation is an abomination for manga readers to watch.
The older I get the more I’m okay with this. Being 30 now I enjoy tuning in every week for 12-24 weeks to watch an anime and then it being done and I can move on to other things.
It is harder to re-watch my long running favorites in full. Though I still re-watch them often and I don't think I tend to re-watch anything in full anyway. Even when it is short. I always opt for my favorite bits and scenes. The best arcs, etc.
It's not really a problem, honestly. Modern mangaka are just "maturing," if that's an appropriate word to use. They're realizing, "Oh. There's not much more story to tell. Let me finish so I can move on to my next idea." It's honestly a good thing. Don't let staff bully you into continuing a story long past the ending, and don't just milk the story until there's nothing left, even for a sequel. Dragon Ball and Naruto are perfect examples of each of the scenarios I mentioned. Strike while the iron is hot, but once it cools down, stop hitting it.
Exactly, I think Mashle: Magic and Muscles would be a good example of a series that knew that it was going to jump in and jump out (pun not intended). It got what it wanted to get across and the mangaka knew despite how popular it was, he wasn't going to milk it. Tokyo Revengers is a bad example of this, a genuinely good long running series that the author milked the hell out off right at the end even though it was long past it's run.
@tyronsredux I would say the same for Avatar, the Last Airbender on the western side. They went in, made an amazing show, and then dipped. The sequel doesn't exist in my eyes. That's just Nickelodeon fan fiction to me lol.
This is sao in a nutshell lol. First 8 or so episodes were amazing, top tier, they were about sword art online as the name suggests. After that they just milked it with all those random arcs and games and stuff. If sao was literally a 12 episode anime with the sao arc + a little nice happy ending with asuna and kirito in the real world it would be one of the best animes to date. But they ruined it and now its just a joke.
@@bleachinmyeyesplsfun fact about SAO s writing: a lot of those first episodes were written at different points of the series as flashbacks with the original game being even shorter in the source (episode 2 s events were written after the series was finished for the anime as one example). So the reason why the fairy game arc is pretty shit is because you went from the author at some of his most experienced to the writer when he was still new to writing.
8:45 It was shown that cursed users and cursed spirits exist beyond Japan, but they don't know about eachother and usually go solo. This is because there isn't that many jujutsu sorcerers who know about their power and the country probably sees them as mentally insane and they go into mental asylums.
To be fair, a lot of Jujitsu sorcerers (which is redundant considering that, and I looked this up, "Jujitsu" means sorcery in Japanese) are insane or have gone insane. You would not want to deal in such things in the real world lest you, to quote Christopher Lee, lose not only your mind, but also your soul.
My biggest problem with new era 12 episode seasonal anime is that everything happens so quickly, there's no build up, barely any world building. They peak really early with no buy in. I don't even know the characters and they're dead already. There's no incentive for the viewer. So you only get a mid forgettable story experience.
It think the problem comes with miliking everything in a season of 12 episodes rather than expanding a hole series with it. The prime example for me is cyberpunk edgerunners, that have the potential for at least 3 or 4 season and they concluded everything in one and you have to play a 60 dolar AAA game to continúe the story
I feel like the reason we don't get long running anime anymore is due to the age of streaming, because the same could be said for TV series. Before when you had to wait to watch your favorite show, we used to get 24 episodes per season and like 8,9,10 seasons of a show. But with the way we consume media now, if something isn't great then it gets canceled without any consideration to fix or better the mistakes that were made in the first season. As a relatively new anime watcher, I personally didn't like the art style in One Piece but I kept watching and I began to enjoy the world building, character development, new crew members, and the art style. But unfortunately that cannot be said for new shows, it's either a hit or a miss. And it's like they want to keep the story short so as to not lose viewers with too many filler episodes.
My major gripe with long running anime is the animation quality. Seasonal anime have more consistent high quality animation compared to weekly anime series.
Exactly, despite my complaints, I'd rather wait for Chainsaw Man and JJK level animation then have animators struggling just to give us weekly episodes of these series. The Toei staff that worked on Wano though, now they need to be studied for giving such high quality weekly episodes during the Wano Arc
@@tyronsredux when the king falls the subjects follow. Jump relying way to much on op you know op carying when jump have a cover of luffy siting like a king
That toonami block and wb on Saturday mornings was amazing. He’s talking about waiting a day we had to wait a week sometimes for adult swim not to mention renting vhs tapes at blockbuster
Another problem too is something that we don't want to meet is the complaint about filler The reason why a lot of shows back in the day were long running is because when they will catch up with the manga they will have to create a new arc out of nowhere to hold over until the artist can get a little bit further ahead so they can animate it so that's another problem with the long-running series formula is that there's no in between and that's been a problem with the manga since the very beginning we can have an arc where we go through all of these emotions and these cool battles or whatever and then there's no downtime or we jump right into the next arc without any lead up that be the problem and I think that's why we kind of do need a little bit of filler just to either give the cast a break or to transition. Until the mangaka artist can catch up and do more when you have the seasonal animes you're literally holding out until the manga artist can draw a lot of chapters so they can animate it and that's the reason why you see my Hero academia and jiu jitsu kaizen taken you know these long breaks because of the fact that they're not putting filler in it and that's great after a while but eventually you're going to have to put some kind of filler into these animes in order to keep them going for a long time to keep them in the cultures like guys to keep people from for getting about the anime and the manga itself
I love long form content . One piece with 1000+ eps ? I’m with it . Warhammer 40K with over 600 novels ? Hell yea. I love world building and really getting to know characters . It saddens me with all the short form content these days and short seasons
I think Ninenouh was South African iirc. Though he doesn't make videos anymore and has purged a lot of his content.😭 There's still some anime editorial content left. Miss that guy. Thanks for filling the Anitube void, Tyronsredux. Great video!
I'm not going to lie I really hope that MHA and Black clover was going to be the next Naruto where we could see the progression of the characters and world building.
I would have liked that as well but the mangaka for those series scripted the end of show years in advance and likely going off script to add content would lead to worse arcs.
@@michaelkhairi7360 heres the thing about one piece, while the WB is great, the manga spent waaay too much time in one place to the point the story felt stuck for years before it can actually continues. Is kinda like reading the detours from lord of the rings, that individually are interesting (hell Tolkien even made appendages from those) but they barelly add anything to the overall story that for very good reasons they were mostly cut from the Peter Jackson films, some of them were save for the extended cuts. Hell the live action one piece is following these footsteps by focusing in the things that add to the story and leave out the things that drag the plot to a hault.
my answer to this is: hopefully yes the stress and overwork that a animator goes to make a season anime is already a great one. now imagine having to work non-stop in a production until it ends (who knows when). its just paintful to think about the harsh things that animators in anime industry in japan are going throw. so i prefer season series that comes with less overwork and pain to the workers than have an eternal anime with workers suffering to bring every episode
I agree a 1000%. I actually saw a take on twitter that kinda of resonated with me and the person said that since One Piece is in it's final Saga, it should have gone seasonal. If we got Wano level animation from seasonal One Piece. I wouldn't even be mad.
i for one would be *extremely* annoyed if One Piece randomly decided to change its format to seasonal just for the final saga honestly it annoyed me with Bleach TYBW as well, i'd rather they stick to a single format for the entire duration of the story instead of abruptly switching midway through.
@@fluoriette9979the episode cap isn't arbitrary. Seasons are 13 episodes for alot of anime. 4 seasons=52 episodes. They could give them 65 episodes but bleach doesn't have 65 episodes worth of story
Its dying and im damn happy about it. I watched on piece and Naruto from my childhood to adult hood. When i was 22 thought thought hit me "Am i going to die of old age before one piece or naruto ended?" lmaoo. But all jokes aside long shonen is never as good as anime that only runs 2-4 seasons. Thats because each episode and season stuff actually happen, more efficient and impactful for you time, and short anime always leave you of wanting more. Rather than talking paragraphs about it lets see the difference of short anime vs lang animes. JJK Yuji vs Choso against any naruto fight that lasted 6 episodes with 15 minutes being B-roll of them breathing heavily after clashing and 25 minutes of flashbacks of naruto on a swing with sad music.
The problem i have with the new series is timing,they wanna hit every point very quickly with barely any build up like yea i like them but i dont have that same attachment i had with the long runs so now when something big happens its cool but dont get me super hype
Very ture, but remember that these series are also trying to avoid being axed by Jump. If they don't hook people in with hype immediatly they run the risk of being axed. It's even currently happening with Kagurabachi at the moment even though the community is memeing TF out of it
@@tyronsredux yeah...and its a shame they really should let them give every moment there proper time and who knows maybe they could get there next dragon ball or one piece
I don't mind anime having seasons but what I hate is it's not set up for yearly releases like you said it can take 2 to 4 years to get a season 2 which is ridiculous.
Especially with how popular these shows/manga get, you would assume that the industry would try to make more of these popular shows. But I get it, you don't want to give a shit product just cause it's popular
I mean I see what you mean but the 12-24 episode formula is only a product of its time. Personally I would rather wait for 24 episodes of a well produced show then get a weekly series where it looks really stiff. And this gets into manga as well. Shit like one piece would get axed almost immediately if it started publication today. People generally prefer faster paced story telling these days. It’s just what the industry has adapted into. But wtf do I know? Just my thoughts.
@@tyronsredux it’s because it starts off so slow. One piece took full advantage of its time to set up the world and characters. Series that publish on shounen jump these days are generally way faster paced and set things up much quicker
I was speaking with my friends about this the other day how much I miss long running Shonen. I’ve turned more towards fantasy books and light novels to scratch a similar itch.
@@tyronsredux re zero mushoku tensei oregairu toradora classroom of the elite a certain magical index (my personal favorite) bunny girl senpai just a few off the top of my head and most of these light novels have anime adaptions anyways but they go more in depth than their anime adaptions. Plus you can read anything from nisio isin (he made the monogatari series)
Anime production shifted to seasonal mainly because of IRL stuff like business and the production itself. Besides, long-running anime are actually seasonal too. The rights to produce and broadcast didn't get sold as a whole (from the start until the series ended), they got renewed, usually per certain episode or arc. That's why the DVD versions of Bleach, Naruto, etc. were released in seasons. Also, world building isn't just about places or areas. It includes everything like setting, societal norms, characters, and/or organization relations, etc. A world in One Piece is filled with pirates and ruled by a single organization called the World Government, that is also part of its world-building. and yes, it exists in seasonal anime like JJK too.
Yeah, weekly anime are almost always harder to make than seasonal anime and it shows because of schedules and other production things. I don't mind seasonal anime, but I agree that it waiting for the new season sometimes loses the hype. W video, keep up the good work.
From an anime watchers perspective I like the shorter ones. They are easier to watch and get caught up on. So I can avoid spoilers. The animation tends to be much better, and there is little to no filler. But in my opinion it is sometimes a bit harder to get invested in a character. Sometimes. As where a long running anime like One Piece. Of which I've watched 580 episodes. There is lots of time to get invested in the characters, and you can often times grow very fond of a character. Also because you've seem so much of these characters in a longer anime, you can often predict what they might do next. Which some people hate that, but I personally like it. It kinda feels like you grew up along side them. It's kinda like a sibling in my eyes. You've been around them so very much that you can sometimes practically read their mind. Which I find fun. So, yeah. In short. I like shorter animes. For the most part.
The meta for the comic went from Long running stories w/ grand worldbuilding , w/ "bloat" to shorter ones with less world building, less character development, and more action. It's like they were made to be binged. Anime-wise, now the industry is producing is 3/4x more things under arguably more conditions. Capitalism is hell.
he said u prob STARTED watching anime. WHO IN THIER RIGHT MIND STARTS WATCHING ANIME WITH ONE PIECE when ur done demon slayer will be in its 5th and last season
That’s cap asf one piece is only good at the adventure aspect world building and characters. One piece fights are dogshit compared to most other shounen naruto and bleach fights absolutely shit on one piece fights.
Great video and I'd love to add to discussion better but I'm on the tail end of a short lunch break but we really need more people loud about SJ's tendency to keep early axing creative stories that aren't doing whatever numbers that "indicate" one of the BIG series early enough, at a time where people have less time/money to indulge in reading. I feel like too many REALLY GOOD SERIES lose their chance bc of these impossible expectations and it's extremely sad, esp with SJ nearly controlling the industry (while still mistreating their mangaka like crazy)
Bro! This was a well done vid man. I actually thought you were American based off your thumb nail design. What a surprise it was to hear your South American. As a Nigerian who has been in South Africa since 2009 i relate to that SABC 2 hate😂. Keep up the great quality bro, I'm proud if you and you just got yourself a new sub.
Not to mention sabc2 restarted Dbz TWICE FROM THE BEGINNING! Once when it was around frieza saga and another close to the end of cell saga I think... And those were DAM LONG
It is interesting that TV series becoming shorter isn't just happening in Anime in Japan, but also in the US from Hollywood. There are DIFFERENT reasons for each. Anime, the long-running Battle Shonen anime, are based on Manga. With the evolution to adapt Manga with as little filler as possible and the movement to seasonal anime...there is less of a pressure for Manga Writers to just keep going endlessly to feed a year-round anime production cycle. In Hollywood...it is becoming a bit of a "budget and method of consumption" thing. LOST had 24+ episode seasons for the first 3 seasons. Something like Dexter had 13 episode seasons. Game of Thrones had 10 episode seasons but by the end had 7 and 6 episode seasons. Now a lot of the common Netflix or Amazon Prime shows have 8 episode seasons. A show like Jack Ryan finished the entire show with only 30 episodes after FOUR Seasons. 20 years ago a show like LOST had ONE SEASON with 25 episodes. There is more and more of a pressure on TV storytelling to feel more cinematic. So...more money/impact/emphasis put on every episode being important and being key to the story. No room for weird one-off episodes or unique side stories...they are being treated more like "Multi part movies" instead of having the typical "TV structure" In the age of streaming people aren't watching shows once a week for months, having a different episode of a different show for each night at each time...instead...people want something they can binge in its entirety and then move onto something else. I think that is making "short anime" have more appeal as well....people want to watch something in full, then jump to the next thing. People are less interested in just being absorbed completely by one long-running mega-franchise.
My uncle used to watch a shitton of Naruto episodes with a pirated DVD because that's how we watch anime since the 30% population of filipinos barely could afford a TV and caples at the early 2010s and 2000s. Not to mention just getting a computer and Wifi is more difficult compare to nowadays where most of them can watch a shitton of attention span reducing brain dead content with a phone on their hands.
i agree on the video i'm use to and very fond of the long running format of getting an episode every week but i have gotten use to the seasonal format and appreciate the quality that comes with it congrats on 1k great vid !
outside of shonen jump, we have detective conan series with 1118 chapters and 300 manga canon episodes, altough after reveal of main villain of the part, and main villain of the entire story, series is on final stretches like one piece
@@tyronsredux yeah, since name of main villain of the story was revealed, but anyway manga is publishing like 20 chapters per year, so this will take even longer than one piece, and one romance needs to be completed before heading to final part, detective conan has literally jojo formula of arcs and parts
and unfornuately anime manga arcs are returning when there is new manga arc being published and i have to wait every 2 or 3 months or even longer for just two episodes arc adaptation :(
lol now that i hear it in this video with one piece visuals, the vocals in that nier automata village song really do sound like they're saying 'one piece'
Ngl, when I added in Pascals theme during the One Piece segment I didn't notice that it sounded like it was saying "One Piece" until a commentor mentioned it lol
I'd love the anime to come back, but with a better production schedule. I'd hate a repeat of ep 1-170 continous episode and with what is going on with studio MAPPA's animators
problem is alot of these manga have a rushed feeling to it so when its over readers think they should have spent more time on certain characters or concepts
My problem with seasonals, is when you only get twelve episodes, years go by, there is more to adapt, yet they dont renew it. Other than tgat, I preferr it, since it acoids the hurdles of struggling to keep up, or overtaking the source material and stuff
It strongly depends. I think the sweet spot from my evaluations might be somewhere around 40-100 episodes as being ideal. But then again look at HxH how do you tell an expansive amazing story without it being longer than 100 eps. Whenever Bersek finally gets a proper no CGI laden adapation it will be another longer than 100. I think people saying that shorter is better are somewhat incorrect. Rushing through scenes and not fleshing out ideas is just as bad as stretching it out too long.
Aah, a South African finally contributing to the anime conversation. I didn't even know Bleach was on sabc 2 until I saw it about 3 years ago, I was shook!
All the south african anime peeps are on Tik Tok and I don't have the energy to make quick shorts when I prefer to talk about it in much longer segments
@@yrnkevinsmithC-137 There was a ton of anime on SABC 2 that I could have listed honestly, but I thought the three main ones that we grew up was Naruto, Bleach and DBZ
11:50 💀 why are you acting like this is a new problem? Shonen jump has been doing this for *decades* long before series have been getting localized for the west. the only reason why it's apparent now is because Viz has actually decided to translate the manga currently running in shonen jump, giving us a glimpse into how truly cuthroat shonen jump is when it comes to its manga
Bleach thousand year blood war arc proved that seasonal adaptation is the best way for shounen. Imagine a seasonal Dressrosa arc and it runs for 2 seasons with the pace of the manga and amazing animation. I know it won’t happen because Toei won’t stop milking it and there might be actual backlash from the Japanese fans. Even though Wano had good animation for the most part the pacing was horrendous. Atleast the newer shonen have seasonal anime adaptations. Demon Slayer, a super mid to decent manga plot and character wise, benefitted so much that it feels like a missed opportunity with One Piece and DBS. F*** you Toei!
Man i feel so nostalgic for those days watching anime on SABC2. I kinda gravitated away from shonen (accept for one piece) and just jumping between comedies, trashy fanservice shows and even shojo, the only Shonen ive been actively watching are one-piece and CSM. I still whatch stuff, just not as engaged as i am with them
South Africa is definitely not the only country that had to deal with ad breaks and waiting for hours to watch an anime episode. Other than that though, agree with you about your sentiments with long running anime. When ppl use the excuse of OP is too long to justify not watching it, how come it's never used for other shounen then? If you're a OP fan, you know it's actually too short. It's really the garbage pacing that weakens it (at least for the anime) We're in a timeline where there are anime fans who haven't grown up watching shows like Dragon Ball, Naruto, Bleach, etc. in a weekly basis. While OP has a greater quantity of episodes compared to these series, bottom-line, all of them have WAY more episodes compared to the typical seasonal anime relatively speaking. And that's the important part here. While all these 12-24 ep anime are great since you get a concise story, you'll have to wait a year minimum for a new season. At least for me, I forget so many of the characters, their names, the events etc. that took place. As much as I love my romance stuff like Toradora, Ao Haru Ride, Kimi ni Todoke, etc., it's been years since I last watched them and pretty much need to rewatch them again if I wanna remember the overall story. When it comes to the long running anime like Naruto & OP, they just stick with me. I get lost in the world building & the environments. I get invested in the characters and their relationships. Atp, the battle aspects of the battle shounen just supplement the story for me or hitting those dopamine rushes cause of how hype they are. Ofc, seasonal anime offer this experience too but it's just too staggered for me imo. AoT & JJK are great examples of that. This is why I prefer reading the manga over watching the anime. Then there's the whole aspect of "what do I watch now after x show ended?" when it comes to the seasonal shows. I always suggest OP but like I said in the beginning, ppl disregard it for such a baseless reason. There's always that post depression feeling when it comes to finishing a series. You're sad that you're not immersed in another world and their characters. Well, long running anime can provide that same experience over a consistent and lengthy duration. I get that committing to a long series is hard in general (not just anime) but if you're genuinely loving the experience, why does it matter that it has x amount of episodes? If you're having a great time with the series, then you're gonna wish it never ends. This is what OP fans try to convey to ppl but i get that the community is pretty toxic online. Finally, ik long running anime isn't sustainable when it comes to the anime/manga industry. We're seeing it firsthand with Oda & OP. The working conditions are gruesome. All we can do on our end is provide support and hope the industry reforms over the years. Sorry for the long comment LMAOO but I genuinely miss long running anime. Just really had to express my thoughts about it
Seasonal anime is the best thing to happen to the industry - I grew up watching anime during the heyday of the early 2000s, I was going from high school to college when hulu and crunchyroll were just illegal anime streaming sites. Long running shit is full of still frames and wasted chances for hype, and I say this as someone who loved the big 3 growing up. But with most seasonal works, every encounter is eye candy, a motherfucker tearing open a loaf of bread can be one of the most entrancing series of frames you've ever seen.
Ngl, that bread metaphor you made would be great if Studio Wit animated Food Wars lol That aside, I completely agree with your sentiments, seasonal anime has been a great thing for anime since it began, like I mentioned in the video, more time allows studios to actually make great quality shows and because of this we get shows like AOT, Made in Abyss, Ranking of Kings, JJK etc. I even mentioned it in my video about anime being better than manga during the Made in Abyss section that I'd rather wait to get a high quality show rather than read the manga. I don't mind waiting, infact if the quality of the material that is being adapted is high enough to match length it took to make it, then I don't care if it's a seasonal anime. Long running series have their own benefits too, people can grow with a character, if you feel like you are at a very turbulant time in your life it's nice seeing that with the same character you are growing with. It can get people who love obsessing over characters for long periods of time, like, despite how much people shit on Boruto, there are actual people who love the anime, shocking I know but there are people who like the series despite how bad some people consider it to be. That's why I said it's good to just enjoy the memories you share with the shows you grew up with, and enjoy the new landscape of the anime world we are living in
Idk how i noticed but when talking about one piece you placed nier music. FUCKING LEGEND And feel that on the fairy tail part its the witcher music but tell me if im coping
You are coping, but I can tell why you would think it would be The Witcher music, the music in Fairy Tail is very celtic inspired. The Witcher OST has Celtic and nowergian elements in it
Honestly, long running anime has the tendency to be crammed with filler, quantity over quality, I would much rather a more concise and condensed story than get two whole seasons of filler.
My boy I’m still read DB Manga and most people I know read it still are doing it… We are just going on a hiatus because they are just retelling Super Hero
Honestly, I think that seasonal anime is the reason why I prefer reading manga when I start liking a series/looking on the jump app Unlike with seasonal anime, you’re mostly able to read manga every week/biweekly depending on breaks, so you have much more time to grow with them, unlike seasonal anime where you’re just kinda Watching for a bit Decide if you like the series or not It ends Happiness/sadness occurs (sadness normally for slice of lifes) So if I like an anime, I tend to just read the manga unless I can’t be bothered to, or if I just get spoiled for a series a bit I’ll prolly read the manga to avoid more spoilers Also, with reading manga, it’s great when a new anime becomes one of your favourites, you read the manga, a new season is coming out and then you can’t wait to see some specific moments pop up So yeah Manga’s great
@@tyronsredux I’m pretty boring when it comes to what I watch/read, though here’s what I’m reading as of current; Undead Unluck World Trigger Jujutsu Kaisen Vagabond Berserk Wild Strawberry Shojo Null MamaYuyu Nue’s Exorcist One Piece Bleach JoJo’s Bizarre adventure Tensura (time I got reincarnated as a slime) Tokyo Ghoul Blue Lock Chainsaw Man Kagurabachi (unironically decent so far) One Punch Man As I said, I’m pretty boring when it comes to what I read/watch Purely because asides from some of them, the stuff I read is practically all from Shounen Jump
@@tyronsreduxcan you explain how it was milked and when you think it should have ended? I personally think we needed the explanation on Mikey’s character but the last few arcs were written so horribly 😭🙏
@@bacongod5759 Honestly the series should have ended after the Tenjiku Arc. The decison to star focusing Mikey's "Dark Urges" was were the story decided to jump off the peak that it had reached. I don't even mind that Ken wanted to focus on Mikey but why not earlier during the manga, Mikey has always been a volatile person so having an arc before the Tenjiku Arc to get to the root of Mikey's problem would have been a much better way to conclude his arc. Then after the Tenjiku arc the story would end after the wedding and with an Epilogue chapter.
@@noahalcantar2431 Cool. Mine was Kenshin, InuYasha, and Ranma. Then some others my friend group got me into were Fruits Basket, Ouran, YYH, and Tokyo Mew Mew. After I realized what anime was, I also realized I had known the existence of several others in passing like Naruto, Pokémon, Yugioh among a handful of others. Just through the cultural zeitgeist I had picked up through osmosis. In the end, I decided to watch all of these. If I liked one anime, I might like several others after all. Loved all of these. Though, I never did go back and watch Pokémon. I adored it, but I let that one be just a nostalgic memory from childhood. It did become clear why I loved Avatar so much growing up and preferred many of the other cartoons that were highly influenced by anime or were literally anime like Pokémon. The 2000s especially was quite the time. So many things were influenced even if creators weren’t always forthcoming back in those days. It was kinda hush hush, I think, that’s why many weren’t forthcoming. It wasn’t cool for authors and other creators to admit they were influenced by foreign sources. Not yet. People often talked around the issue even when they were trying to be more forthcoming w/o literally saying it outright.
I agreed with you until your Shonen Jump Is Dying Segment. Jump has always axed manga the way they do now. Hell, standards as far as sales numbers go have been on a decline actually. Why that is, idk, because as someone who does read almost everything in Jump the current stuff is really good.
Never even knew fairy tail was hated till I spent some time on the internet, I love fairy tail and love the music and world. Also started losing interest in anime the shorter they all got, even though I’ve also watched a lot of 12 episode anime’s over the years they were more slice of life and more grounded in our world, so I didn’t feel the need to know more about the world etc I’ve read a lot of manga and manwha now doe and even light novels Also feel like animation got too polished, there was a certain charm to animation style back in the day that just felt more charming to me. I didn’t even know anime was a thing till I moved to America at 13 and fell in love and watched so many but somewhere along the way I just found myself reading Manga more I did watch overlord, saga of Tanya and one punch man. And the first two is what even got me into reading light novels.
FT is mostly just hated for the popularity and other superficial reasons like it's too similar to OP. In-fighting between the different anime fandoms within the anime community is not anything new. People complain about the power of friendship, but that is in plenty of other anime. It's a staple of the battle anime genre and of the ideals Shonen marketed stories are meant to provide to young people. I wouldn't say FT is hated anymore than anything else that gained immense popularity.
6:04 And the superb characterization, particularly how the Straw Hats engaged during the festival in the Davy Back Fight arc on Adult Swim, captured my interest. The comedy was what sold me on it.
in terms of manga there do seem to be shonen stories that will last for quite a long time if all goes well. 2 great examples i would say are blue lock (thee current top selling manga) which has the potential to pull a timeskip after the next big arc that is coming up to show the characters playing professionally, another great but slightly more niche example is 'welcome to demon school iruma kun' the manga has like 34 volumes and still a lot of room to grow. it has crafted a pretty interesting world with it's own politics. i am sure u can find even more shonen manga and anime that have the potential to last for years if you look outside of jump
I swear, I thought I had responded to this comment lol. Yes I agree, there are plenty of shonen manga and not even just shonen manga but different genres of manga outside of Jump that have the chance to be long running. I'm glad you mentioned Blue Lock cause I see Blue Lock as one of thee only sports manga that might do Hajime no Imppo numbers. If not, then it can get to 500+ chapters Also Iruma Kun is probably one of my favourite Shonen-Isekai stories, it feels like Isekai Harry Potter with demons and I feel like we haven't even scracted the surface of the actually story and we are what? 200+ chapters in. There definetly is more then just the shallow pond of manga/anime I chose to swim in for this video and honestly that's kind of an error on my part lol🥲😷
@@tyronsredux love to see people like the stuff I like. The stuff you covered is definitely important since jump has been a giant pool you could delve into. There are people who haven’t ventured outside of it and to be honest I haven’t done so very much either. Other demographics have different appeal and can’t quite tell the simple yet long and uplifting stories shonen tells imo. They often tell more complex stories (although I haven’t tried shojo or jousei so I have no room to speak on anything other than seinen) with deep themes that one can’t extend for insane amounts of time. Loved the video please keep up the great work : )
@@tyronsredux Lol. Yea some good old ones bro. I couldn't remember all but those are my favorite. That old asl comment funny as hell. If you watch hellsing watch both the original and OVA
Good I hate long running manga. There no reason to have over 500 chapters. Some of the best manga are short hell attack on titan Is only like 139 ish chapters and it's one of the best stories ever told. Only reason it took soong is because it was on a monthly release instead of weekly
I would agree with you if you used literally any other manga for your example, Attack on Titans last 5 chapters are a steaming pile of doo doo fart garabage, and I say this an Attack on Titan Fan
This is a concern I’ve been having recently. The weekly anime formula is what made anime so popular in the first place, knowing you’ll be able to watch your favorite anime on the almost every Saturday while eating breakfast is a great and nostalgic feeling and it’s not something you get with seasonal anime. You know your time is FAR more limited with this series and when it ends your stuck possibly wondering for years if that show you liked will get a season 2 or 3. At that point why even bother get invested in the anime if it’s likely your time with this show will be a measly 12 and less likely 24 episodes. Shonen become popular because people love seeing the MC go from a loser to a well respected warrior. It’s much harder to get that feeling with the uncertainty of seasonal anime. I understand the value of seasonal anime, like animators have less work and we receive higher quality anime but the 12-24 episodes with a less then 50% chance of a continuation formula could kill shonen.
I know you'll probably get a ton of hate replies for this one with people telling you that you should just "Read the Manga" but we aren't talking about manga, we are talking about anime lol.
I'm personally game seasonal is becoming the norm. I get your point about growing up with anime series cause I did too but having to sit through awful filler arcs that last for weeks or a year, filler moments to pad out time, and some episodes just looking like dog shit cause the animators didn't have enough time to cook is something I'm fine with not going through anymore. If Black Clover was seasonal and gave animators time to animate the craziest cuts of animation it would have probably taken off way faster than it took with the long running weekly episode that have mostly okay animation with a few episodes of stand out animation. I will miss manga series going on for decades but as much as I love series like Naruto,Bleach, and Dragon ball the story in the last arcs or last handful of chapters take a nose dive in quality cause the author is burnt out, Get sick from overwork, and probably didn't imagine the story was going to be this long and didn't plan it out. I'd rather take every manga ending on their own terms with a bang than ending in a sad whimper cause the author is just DONE with their own series. I read through the Tokyo ghoul manga which was roughly 300+ chapters and the final arc felt so weird and different from the rest of the manga and that was because the author fell out of love with his own series cause of all the stress it was putting on his body. Honestly that's depressing to hear.... imagine having your dream job and telling your dream story and you fall out of love with it due to your body giving out and the stress of the industry
I agree a 100% with everything you are saying. I do think it varies from series to series thou, take JJK, Black Clover, Chainsaw Man and Fairy tail for example. JJK as an anime and manga has always been fast paced (when it isn't waffling about the power system) JJK tends to always get into the action very quickly, there isn't really time for fillers or for the world to slowly build, the story is always moving forward so of course the animation quality would probably be as high as possible. One Piece, Fairy Tail and Black Clover are very more focused on the adventure aspect of the shows and they save the budget for the fight scenes, if you've watched the last 10 episodes of Black Clover, you can tell the budget went up drastically cause they were fighting most of the time, it wasn't focused on the adventure side. Also as someone who recently read all of Tokyo Ghoul recently for the first time, I can also tell that Ishida-Sensei was cleary way to burnt out from the weekly release formula. I'm glad Ishida gets to drop chapters at his own pace for Choujin X
Hmm, i can agree on hating the 12 episode format. Less an issue with it being a short span and more it being a forced span. If you've watched some seasonal anime then you'll get the gist of the pacing for every show by the end of episode 1. Gets stale fast. Series should be as long or short as they need to be. Cyberpunk works great as a short series, does everything it sets out to do. One piece works as an epic as thats accomplishing what it aims to do. As for the future all the current gen series are coming to and end and we'll just get something new. I'm old enough to think anything post 2008 is brand new still so seen plenty come and go. It'll be great for the industry and i think what ever comes next will be closer to the spirit of one piece than anything else, we're due a new adventure.
FMAB should not be considered long running. People forget it was a montly thing, and it is well written enough that you were an anime only (like me) you would find that narratively it has the feel of the harry potter novels. Just a good story constrained by the medium. A true long running shounen is negatively affected by the suits wanting a franchise. FMAB doesn't fall into that categorization.
I was too young around the time FMAB was airing (like I was probably 3/4yrs old) so I didn't know that it was actually a monthly series. The more you know I guess
I read all chapters. best manga ever. one of the few I grew up reading week to week. few people I've met have read the manga which is sad because it was a good manga.
For anyone wondering why the video disappeared for a few hours, it literally got blocked because of the Fairy Tail segment. So i'm currently setting up a Patreon where you can watch the video in it's entirety without any problems, this minor block probably killed the momentum the video was getting but I'm grateful that it managed to get 40K + views.
Thanks for watching and thanks for 1000K subs and the video will be up on Patreon soon ~ T.R
FINALLY, A FELLOW SOUTH AFRICAN ANIME FAN. DUDE ID COME HOME EVERY DAY, WATCH ANIME FROM 17:00 TO 17:30 ON SABC 2 (either Bleach or Naruto) AND THEN WATCH THE POKÉMON EPISODE I RECORDED RIGHT AFTER. IT WAS SO BAD
For me predict future chainsawman boruto and bleach next generation will thought long chapter
I'd be more sad about this if mangaka could actually handle the stress of long running manga, but even with decades of examples to learn from, artists will be lucky to put out 200 Chapters before breaking down.
It's really bad honestly, even as someone who loves long running manga, I would honestly prefer these mangaka move to a magazine that allows them to publish at their own pace like Jump + or Jump Square
It’s the life they chose , most get cancelled before they even have a chance. Manga is a sport of champions
@@selfishbeats Perhaps treating it less like a sport would reduce ass pulls, pacing issues and unsatisfying endings.
@@LJ-hk4tv anime fans are unpleasable, there will always be "pacing issues, ass pulls and unsatisfying endings"
@@selfishbeats That's why I said "reduce".
I always say this isn’t a problem. Mangaka having the opportunity to finish their mangas on their terms when they want instead of being forced by editors to keep it going (dragonball) or needlessly extending a series length well past the manga quality dipped long ago (naruto, bleach) is a good thing. Makes for more happier mangaka escaping the horrible throws of mangaka work lifestyles and ending their art on their terms when they want it to end. That’s not bad
I'm glad authors like Gege are getting to end their manga at their own pace!
But the samme time they should learn to not be as axwehappy to get series that fills that room. That have longlivity potential, if you let them. Its goof to have moderate long that in case get a sequel.
Capitalism eh, never learns :(
But weekly releases, that did , a lot harm too that its missing.
@@marocat4749I’ll never forgive them for cancelling ayashimon and red hood 😭
Dragon Ball wasn't forced to keep going. Toriyama ended it on his terms. The only thing his editors "forced" him to do was constantly change the villain for the Android/Cell saga.
If there's one thing Gege isn't doing is a good job, even if on their terms. But that's a lack of understanding of why doing stuff works for other series and not for theirs. All characters have been treated poorly up to this point
Bro you are completely right about long running shows, I fell in love with bleach in middle school and I’m now 22 years old, I have girlfriend who loves anime and we watched bleach together and it’s one of her favorites, one day she was crying at the end of the original series where everyone goes to an ice rink for fun and she just started crying out of nowhere and when I asked why she said it’s because everyone looks so much older. Even she, as someone who had only been watching for like a year felt like she grew with these characters and it really does mean a lot to the people watching
You kinda have to give it to seasonal. When continuously dropping episodes it’s harder to keep the anime behind the manga which either rushes the source material or forces filler episodes and arcs while they’re trying to put out chapters. Seasonal relieves stress on creators in my opinion and like you said when given time they can do great things.
Agreed, but some seasonal anime are catching up way to quickly to the manga source material, look at Bungo Stray Dogs, Spy x Family and The Case Study of Vanitas. They all got so popular to the point that the anime caught up to the manga and the mangaka haven't had enough time to create more chapters or because of the way they drop chapters, it's going very very slowly.
I'm not saying this as an excuse to put out pointless fillers that drag out the story for no point btw, filler was, at least from my POV, always used to help mangaka with on-going stories to get far enough ahead that the studio didn't have to start pulling shit out of it's ass just to meet the weekly quota, it's one of the reasons why the bleach adaptation is an abomination for manga readers to watch.
The older I get the more I’m okay with this. Being 30 now I enjoy tuning in every week for 12-24 weeks to watch an anime and then it being done and I can move on to other things.
Agreed, especially if the show is genuinely worth watching
It is harder to re-watch my long running favorites in full. Though I still re-watch them often and I don't think I tend to re-watch anything in full anyway. Even when it is short. I always opt for my favorite bits and scenes. The best arcs, etc.
It's not really a problem, honestly. Modern mangaka are just "maturing," if that's an appropriate word to use. They're realizing, "Oh. There's not much more story to tell. Let me finish so I can move on to my next idea." It's honestly a good thing. Don't let staff bully you into continuing a story long past the ending, and don't just milk the story until there's nothing left, even for a sequel. Dragon Ball and Naruto are perfect examples of each of the scenarios I mentioned.
Strike while the iron is hot, but once it cools down, stop hitting it.
Exactly, I think Mashle: Magic and Muscles would be a good example of a series that knew that it was going to jump in and jump out (pun not intended). It got what it wanted to get across and the mangaka knew despite how popular it was, he wasn't going to milk it.
Tokyo Revengers is a bad example of this, a genuinely good long running series that the author milked the hell out off right at the end even though it was long past it's run.
@tyronsredux I would say the same for Avatar, the Last Airbender on the western side. They went in, made an amazing show, and then dipped.
The sequel doesn't exist in my eyes. That's just Nickelodeon fan fiction to me lol.
Maybe just maybe
This is sao in a nutshell lol.
First 8 or so episodes were amazing, top tier, they were about sword art online as the name suggests. After that they just milked it with all those random arcs and games and stuff.
If sao was literally a 12 episode anime with the sao arc + a little nice happy ending with asuna and kirito in the real world it would be one of the best animes to date. But they ruined it and now its just a joke.
@@bleachinmyeyesplsfun fact about SAO s writing: a lot of those first episodes were written at different points of the series as flashbacks with the original game being even shorter in the source (episode 2 s events were written after the series was finished for the anime as one example).
So the reason why the fairy game arc is pretty shit is because you went from the author at some of his most experienced to the writer when he was still new to writing.
8:45 It was shown that cursed users and cursed spirits exist beyond Japan, but they don't know about eachother and usually go solo. This is because there isn't that many jujutsu sorcerers who know about their power and the country probably sees them as mentally insane and they go into mental asylums.
My bad, maybe I mis-read the explanation, I thought it said that the cursed spirits only exist in Japan because of the barrier that Tengen created.
To be fair, a lot of Jujitsu sorcerers (which is redundant considering that, and I looked this up, "Jujitsu" means sorcery in Japanese) are insane or have gone insane. You would not want to deal in such things in the real world lest you, to quote Christopher Lee, lose not only your mind, but also your soul.
My biggest problem with new era 12 episode seasonal anime is that everything happens so quickly, there's no build up, barely any world building. They peak really early with no buy in. I don't even know the characters and they're dead already. There's no incentive for the viewer. So you only get a mid forgettable story experience.
Jjk is prime example of this but it’s still goated. And it don’t think it would be any better if it was longer
@@getpape4126it looks like we need balance whenever this problem happens
It think the problem comes with miliking everything in a season of 12 episodes rather than expanding a hole series with it.
The prime example for me is cyberpunk edgerunners, that have the potential for at least 3 or 4 season and they concluded everything in one and you have to play a 60 dolar AAA game to continúe the story
Naruto Shipp's length makes it below mid.
@@Scott-xb1ku Personally, the writing dropped so badly. Too many plot holes and retcons. I wish Pain was the final arc the very least.
I feel like the reason we don't get long running anime anymore is due to the age of streaming, because the same could be said for TV series. Before when you had to wait to watch your favorite show, we used to get 24 episodes per season and like 8,9,10 seasons of a show. But with the way we consume media now, if something isn't great then it gets canceled without any consideration to fix or better the mistakes that were made in the first season. As a relatively new anime watcher, I personally didn't like the art style in One Piece but I kept watching and I began to enjoy the world building, character development, new crew members, and the art style.
But unfortunately that cannot be said for new shows, it's either a hit or a miss. And it's like they want to keep the story short so as to not lose viewers with too many filler episodes.
Can I get my hug and kiss please.
@@sandraonyeka9071 🫂😘
My major gripe with long running anime is the animation quality. Seasonal anime have more consistent high quality animation compared to weekly anime series.
Exactly, despite my complaints, I'd rather wait for Chainsaw Man and JJK level animation then have animators struggling just to give us weekly episodes of these series. The Toei staff that worked on Wano though, now they need to be studied for giving such high quality weekly episodes during the Wano Arc
"he Death Of Long Running Shonen"
Laughs in One Piece (gear 5)
What comes after One Piece though?
@@tyronsredux when the king falls the subjects follow. Jump relying way to much on op you know op carying when jump have a cover of luffy siting like a king
@@tyronsredux detective conan
Oda carried 2023
The manga, anime, and live action went crazy and we still not finished with this year
@@JacoB-wp4wsfunny how thats actually older than one piece
bro your a new age weeb. went through all that with dbz and yu yu hakusho and others
Period the comment I was looking for
That toonami block and wb on Saturday mornings was amazing. He’s talking about waiting a day we had to wait a week sometimes for adult swim not to mention renting vhs tapes at blockbuster
Another problem too is something that we don't want to meet is the complaint about filler The reason why a lot of shows back in the day were long running is because when they will catch up with the manga they will have to create a new arc out of nowhere to hold over until the artist can get a little bit further ahead so they can animate it so that's another problem with the long-running series formula is that there's no in between and that's been a problem with the manga since the very beginning we can have an arc where we go through all of these emotions and these cool battles or whatever and then there's no downtime or we jump right into the next arc without any lead up that be the problem and I think that's why we kind of do need a little bit of filler just to either give the cast a break or to transition. Until the mangaka artist can catch up and do more when you have the seasonal animes you're literally holding out until the manga artist can draw a lot of chapters so they can animate it and that's the reason why you see my Hero academia and jiu jitsu kaizen taken you know these long breaks because of the fact that they're not putting filler in it and that's great after a while but eventually you're going to have to put some kind of filler into these animes in order to keep them going for a long time to keep them in the cultures like guys to keep people from for getting about the anime and the manga itself
the companies dont pay these studios/animators/artists enough for long running high quality anime
Coming across a South African UA-camr talking about anime literally made me so happy 🇿🇦🔥
I'm here to represent my people dawg
I love long form content . One piece with 1000+ eps ? I’m with it . Warhammer 40K with over 600 novels ? Hell yea. I love world building and really getting to know characters . It saddens me with all the short form content these days and short seasons
Its refreshing to see a South African anime channel. I love what youre doing here brother .🙌
I'm here to represent my people
@@tyronsredux dankie boi!
I think Ninenouh was South African iirc. Though he doesn't make videos anymore and has purged a lot of his content.😭
There's still some anime editorial content left. Miss that guy. Thanks for filling the Anitube void, Tyronsredux. Great video!
The pain of waiting for 5 and the sorrow you would feel when Thursday came up😭😭 but im glad we got introduced to the media
Streaming saved us
FINALLY! Another South African fan who actually knows a lot of anime and experienced anime through watching it on SABC 2 at 5 pm.
I gotta represent my fellow South African otakus
I'd rather most just be 28 to 59 episodes.
As someone in their 30's you start to value your time a lot more.
I'm not going to lie I really hope that MHA and Black clover was going to be the next Naruto where we could see the progression of the characters and world building.
I would have liked that as well but the mangaka for those series scripted the end of show years in advance and likely going off script to add content would lead to worse arcs.
Progresion and world bulding in naruto? Give me a break.
In fact one piece in those aspects make naruto look like... well boruto.
@@motor4X4kombat Yes You are 100% right but I don't want my hero to be as long as OP. OP is special
@@michaelkhairi7360 heres the thing about one piece, while the WB is great, the manga spent waaay too much time in one place to the point the story felt stuck for years before it can actually continues. Is kinda like reading the detours from lord of the rings, that individually are interesting (hell Tolkien even made appendages from those) but they barelly add anything to the overall story that for very good reasons they were mostly cut from the Peter Jackson films, some of them were save for the extended cuts. Hell the live action one piece is following these footsteps by focusing in the things that add to the story and leave out the things that drag the plot to a hault.
@@michaelkhairi7360 Oda is immortal and MHA's creator would die from that much work (like any other mortal).
my answer to this is: hopefully yes
the stress and overwork that a animator goes to make a season anime is already a great one. now imagine having to work non-stop in a production until it ends (who knows when). its just paintful to think about the harsh things that animators in anime industry in japan are going throw. so i prefer season series that comes with less overwork and pain to the workers than have an eternal anime with workers suffering to bring every episode
I agree a 1000%. I actually saw a take on twitter that kinda of resonated with me and the person said that since One Piece is in it's final Saga, it should have gone seasonal. If we got Wano level animation from seasonal One Piece. I wouldn't even be mad.
i for one would be *extremely* annoyed if One Piece randomly decided to change its format to seasonal just for the final saga
honestly it annoyed me with Bleach TYBW as well, i'd rather they stick to a single format for the entire duration of the story instead of abruptly switching midway through.
@@fluoriette9979 Are you telling me you don't like TYBW?
@@tyronsredux i like it but i wish it didn't have an arbitrary 52-episode cap
@@fluoriette9979the episode cap isn't arbitrary. Seasons are 13 episodes for alot of anime. 4 seasons=52 episodes. They could give them 65 episodes but bleach doesn't have 65 episodes worth of story
Its dying and im damn happy about it. I watched on piece and Naruto from my childhood to adult hood. When i was 22 thought thought hit me "Am i going to die of old age before one piece or naruto ended?" lmaoo. But all jokes aside long shonen is never as good as anime that only runs 2-4 seasons. Thats because each episode and season stuff actually happen, more efficient and impactful for you time, and short anime always leave you of wanting more. Rather than talking paragraphs about it lets see the difference of short anime vs lang animes.
JJK Yuji vs Choso against any naruto fight that lasted 6 episodes with 15 minutes being B-roll of them breathing heavily after clashing and 25 minutes of flashbacks of naruto on a swing with sad music.
The problem i have with the new series is timing,they wanna hit every point very quickly with barely any build up like yea i like them but i dont have that same attachment i had with the long runs so now when something big happens its cool but dont get me super hype
Very ture, but remember that these series are also trying to avoid being axed by Jump. If they don't hook people in with hype immediatly they run the risk of being axed. It's even currently happening with Kagurabachi at the moment even though the community is memeing TF out of it
@@tyronsredux yeah...and its a shame they really should let them give every moment there proper time and who knows maybe they could get there next dragon ball or one piece
It always manifests as unfulfilled potential and painful blue balls.
Your nostalgia is showing.
I don't mind anime having seasons but what I hate is it's not set up for yearly releases like you said it can take 2 to 4 years to get a season 2 which is ridiculous.
Especially with how popular these shows/manga get, you would assume that the industry would try to make more of these popular shows. But I get it, you don't want to give a shit product just cause it's popular
Same bro the wait for jjk season 3 is gonna be excruciating
I mean I see what you mean but the 12-24 episode formula is only a product of its time. Personally I would rather wait for 24 episodes of a well produced show then get a weekly series where it looks really stiff. And this gets into manga as well. Shit like one piece would get axed almost immediately if it started publication today. People generally prefer faster paced story telling these days. It’s just what the industry has adapted into. But wtf do I know? Just my thoughts.
Why do you believe that One Piece would get axed immediately if it started publication today?, humor me, I'm curious of what you think
@@tyronsredux it’s because it starts off so slow. One piece took full advantage of its time to set up the world and characters. Series that publish on shounen jump these days are generally way faster paced and set things up much quicker
I was speaking with my friends about this the other day how much I miss long running Shonen. I’ve turned more towards fantasy books and light novels to scratch a similar itch.
Got any light novels you want to recommend?
@@tyronsredux
re zero
mushoku tensei
oregairu
toradora
classroom of the elite
a certain magical index (my personal favorite)
bunny girl senpai
just a few off the top of my head and most of these light novels have anime adaptions anyways but they go more in depth than their anime adaptions.
Plus you can read anything from nisio isin (he made the monogatari series)
Bruh I understand pain of sabc 2 ads , and it's like 2min worth of ads
2 minute adds and they did it like 2 or 3 times PER EPISODE bruh I'm so glad we can just stream now😂
@ssjduncan7682 facts ,I was tired of looking at oros and standard bank and funeral cover ads bruh like let me watch anime in piece
don’t worry , i’ll bring back long running anime, just give me 16 years, my Radicals comic will be my magnum opus
Save the Long Running Anime Society, K-Manny😶🌫
Counting on ya buddy 😭🙏
Anime production shifted to seasonal mainly because of IRL stuff like business and the production itself. Besides, long-running anime are actually seasonal too. The rights to produce and broadcast didn't get sold as a whole (from the start until the series ended), they got renewed, usually per certain episode or arc. That's why the DVD versions of Bleach, Naruto, etc. were released in seasons.
Also, world building isn't just about places or areas. It includes everything like setting, societal norms, characters, and/or organization relations, etc. A world in One Piece is filled with pirates and ruled by a single organization called the World Government, that is also part of its world-building. and yes, it exists in seasonal anime like JJK too.
Yeah, weekly anime are almost always harder to make than seasonal anime and it shows because of schedules and other production things. I don't mind seasonal anime, but I agree that it waiting for the new season sometimes loses the hype. W video, keep up the good work.
From an anime watchers perspective I like the shorter ones. They are easier to watch and get caught up on. So I can avoid spoilers. The animation tends to be much better, and there is little to no filler. But in my opinion it is sometimes a bit harder to get invested in a character. Sometimes. As where a long running anime like One Piece. Of which I've watched 580 episodes. There is lots of time to get invested in the characters, and you can often times grow very fond of a character. Also because you've seem so much of these characters in a longer anime, you can often predict what they might do next. Which some people hate that, but I personally like it. It kinda feels like you grew up along side them. It's kinda like a sibling in my eyes. You've been around them so very much that you can sometimes practically read their mind. Which I find fun.
So, yeah. In short. I like shorter animes. For the most part.
Each one has it's benefits honestly
@@tyronsredux Yeah... That's true.
That Case Closed mention hit me like a flashbang. Not many people know about it.
Buff Asta was the best part for me, gave me drive to be Buff Meltdown
I hope you know you’ll conquer whatever you’re going through as well. Thank you for the video
Thanks man, that's really nice to hear
The meta for the comic went from Long running stories w/ grand worldbuilding , w/ "bloat" to shorter ones with less world building, less character development, and more action. It's like they were made to be binged.
Anime-wise, now the industry is producing is 3/4x more things under arguably more conditions. Capitalism is hell.
One piece got me to anime, there was a time it played on SABC 2
Oh word. I was only there during the Naruto run of SABC 2
I LOVE THIS EDITING. AND THE BUMP SEGMENT?! chef’s kiss. You got a sub in me.
Thank you
I won't lie I sometimes skipped after-care or school clubs just ro be comfortable by 5 to watch Naruto and Bleach on SABC 2
You had your pritories straight, I don't blame you for wanting to watch Kino
@@tyronsredux 😂
If you ain’t watching one piece then you sick and are missing out big time it’s the best of best
Who said I wasn't watching One Piece?🧐
he said u prob STARTED watching anime. WHO IN THIER RIGHT MIND STARTS WATCHING ANIME WITH ONE PIECE when ur done demon slayer will be in its 5th and last season
Guess I'm sick then
That’s cap asf one piece is only good at the adventure aspect world building and characters. One piece fights are dogshit compared to most other shounen naruto and bleach fights absolutely shit on one piece fights.
Great video and I'd love to add to discussion better but I'm on the tail end of a short lunch break but we really need more people loud about SJ's tendency to keep early axing creative stories that aren't doing whatever numbers that "indicate" one of the BIG series early enough, at a time where people have less time/money to indulge in reading.
I feel like too many REALLY GOOD SERIES lose their chance bc of these impossible expectations and it's extremely sad, esp with SJ nearly controlling the industry (while still mistreating their mangaka like crazy)
Bro! This was a well done vid man. I actually thought you were American based off your thumb nail design. What a surprise it was to hear your South American. As a Nigerian who has been in South Africa since 2009 i relate to that SABC 2 hate😂. Keep up the great quality bro, I'm proud if you and you just got yourself a new sub.
Glad you like the video bro, and thanks for the support
Not to mention sabc2 restarted Dbz TWICE FROM THE BEGINNING! Once when it was around frieza saga and another close to the end of cell saga I think... And those were DAM LONG
I remember that pain lol
It is interesting that TV series becoming shorter isn't just happening in Anime in Japan, but also in the US from Hollywood.
There are DIFFERENT reasons for each. Anime, the long-running Battle Shonen anime, are based on Manga. With the evolution to adapt Manga with as little filler as possible and the movement to seasonal anime...there is less of a pressure for Manga Writers to just keep going endlessly to feed a year-round anime production cycle.
In Hollywood...it is becoming a bit of a "budget and method of consumption" thing. LOST had 24+ episode seasons for the first 3 seasons. Something like Dexter had 13 episode seasons. Game of Thrones had 10 episode seasons but by the end had 7 and 6 episode seasons.
Now a lot of the common Netflix or Amazon Prime shows have 8 episode seasons. A show like Jack Ryan finished the entire show with only 30 episodes after FOUR Seasons. 20 years ago a show like LOST had ONE SEASON with 25 episodes.
There is more and more of a pressure on TV storytelling to feel more cinematic. So...more money/impact/emphasis put on every episode being important and being key to the story. No room for weird one-off episodes or unique side stories...they are being treated more like "Multi part movies" instead of having the typical "TV structure"
In the age of streaming people aren't watching shows once a week for months, having a different episode of a different show for each night at each time...instead...people want something they can binge in its entirety and then move onto something else.
I think that is making "short anime" have more appeal as well....people want to watch something in full, then jump to the next thing. People are less interested in just being absorbed completely by one long-running mega-franchise.
Yo. I spent my early teens watching Naruto and dragon ball z on SABC 2 all the way here in Zambia
Damn, that's crazy bro
My uncle used to watch a shitton of Naruto episodes with a pirated DVD because that's how we watch anime since the 30% population of filipinos barely could afford a TV and caples at the early 2010s and 2000s.
Not to mention just getting a computer and Wifi is more difficult compare to nowadays where most of them can watch a shitton of attention span reducing brain dead content with a phone on their hands.
Very true!
i agree on the video i'm use to and very fond of the long running format of getting an episode every week but i have gotten use to the seasonal format and appreciate the quality that comes with it congrats on 1k great vid !
Thank You
outside of shonen jump, we have detective conan series with 1118 chapters and 300 manga canon episodes, altough after reveal of main villain of the part, and main villain of the entire story, series is on final stretches like one piece
Wait fr? The Detective Conan manga is about to end as well?
@@tyronsredux yeah, since name of main villain of the story was revealed, but anyway manga is publishing like 20 chapters per year, so this will take even longer than one piece, and one romance needs to be completed before heading to final part, detective conan has literally jojo formula of arcs and parts
and unfornuately anime manga arcs are returning when there is new manga arc being published and i have to wait every 2 or 3 months or even longer for just two episodes arc adaptation :(
lol now that i hear it in this video with one piece visuals, the vocals in that nier automata village song really do sound like they're saying 'one piece'
Ngl, when I added in Pascals theme during the One Piece segment I didn't notice that it sounded like it was saying "One Piece" until a commentor mentioned it lol
I’m glad Black Clover is actually coming back.
In decemeber.
I hope the anime gets the TYBW arc animation for the Spade War Arc
I'd love the anime to come back, but with a better production schedule. I'd hate a repeat of ep 1-170 continous episode and with what is going on with studio MAPPA's animators
if jjk is a long running series, the animators are now in a death bed, they are already half alive now anyways.
SABC 2: When 5 o'clock was 5 o'clock!
WHERE YOU BELONG!
problem is alot of these manga have a rushed feeling to it so when its over readers think they should have spent more time on certain characters or concepts
My problem with seasonals, is when you only get twelve episodes, years go by, there is more to adapt, yet they dont renew it. Other than tgat, I preferr it, since it acoids the hurdles of struggling to keep up, or overtaking the source material and stuff
It strongly depends. I think the sweet spot from my evaluations might be somewhere around 40-100 episodes as being ideal. But then again look at HxH how do you tell an expansive amazing story without it being longer than 100 eps. Whenever Bersek finally gets a proper no CGI laden adapation it will be another longer than 100. I think people saying that shorter is better are somewhat incorrect. Rushing through scenes and not fleshing out ideas is just as bad as stretching it out too long.
Man the SABC 2 struggle was real 😅
those damn ads were the bane of my existence.
Aah, a South African finally contributing to the anime conversation. I didn't even know Bleach was on sabc 2 until I saw it about 3 years ago, I was shook!
All the south african anime peeps are on Tik Tok and I don't have the energy to make quick shorts when I prefer to talk about it in much longer segments
@@tyronsredux well I'm glad you're here because I can't do the very short anime discussion on Tik Tok, prefer the long videos on here
I'm more shooked that he didn't say one piece was one of the anime that were in sabc 2
@@yrnkevinsmithC-137 There was a ton of anime on SABC 2 that I could have listed honestly, but I thought the three main ones that we grew up was Naruto, Bleach and DBZ
@@tyronsredux I honestly only know of those 4
11:50 💀 why are you acting like this is a new problem? Shonen jump has been doing this for *decades* long before series have been getting localized for the west. the only reason why it's apparent now is because Viz has actually decided to translate the manga currently running in shonen jump, giving us a glimpse into how truly cuthroat shonen jump is when it comes to its manga
Great video!
I’m also really hoping, that JJK gets a filler episode
Sadly, I don't think we are ever gonna get that
Hey bro, I respect your opinion and all, but fuck you for saying that🖕
they did do the little story recaps for the people that are too lazy to watch the first season and movie
Bleach thousand year blood war arc proved that seasonal adaptation is the best way for shounen. Imagine a seasonal Dressrosa arc and it runs for 2 seasons with the pace of the manga and amazing animation. I know it won’t happen because Toei won’t stop milking it and there might be actual backlash from the Japanese fans. Even though Wano had good animation for the most part the pacing was horrendous. Atleast the newer shonen have seasonal anime adaptations. Demon Slayer, a super mid to decent manga plot and character wise, benefitted so much that it feels like a missed opportunity with One Piece and DBS. F*** you Toei!
Agreed, Seasonal One Piece would be really amazing honestly
Can't believe you talked about Mashima and didn't even bring up Rave Master :P
Good video, I enjoyed it
I feel you 😂 "SABC 2 at 5pm"
WHERE YOU BELONG!🤣
Instant subscribe for the Mashima section and not being negative about it or even mentioning it
UA-cam cut out the Mashima section so I'm gonna post the full section on my Patreon
i wish they atleast left us with 12 episode seasons for black clover. Its so sad that they just fully stopped it before the best arc 😭😭😭
I have a feeling once Bleach TYBW is done, Pierrot is gonna pump so much money into the Black Clover war Arc
i subbed because the little bump message made me smile, thank you
I'm glad I could make you smile buddy🤗
Man i feel so nostalgic for those days watching anime on SABC2. I kinda gravitated away from shonen (accept for one piece) and just jumping between comedies, trashy fanservice shows and even shojo, the only Shonen ive been actively watching are one-piece and CSM.
I still whatch stuff, just not as engaged as i am with them
I must be deranged AF since I started my love with anime watching HXH
You crazy bastard
South Africa is definitely not the only country that had to deal with ad breaks and waiting for hours to watch an anime episode. Other than that though, agree with you about your sentiments with long running anime. When ppl use the excuse of OP is too long to justify not watching it, how come it's never used for other shounen then? If you're a OP fan, you know it's actually too short. It's really the garbage pacing that weakens it (at least for the anime)
We're in a timeline where there are anime fans who haven't grown up watching shows like Dragon Ball, Naruto, Bleach, etc. in a weekly basis. While OP has a greater quantity of episodes compared to these series, bottom-line, all of them have WAY more episodes compared to the typical seasonal anime relatively speaking. And that's the important part here. While all these 12-24 ep anime are great since you get a concise story, you'll have to wait a year minimum for a new season. At least for me, I forget so many of the characters, their names, the events etc. that took place. As much as I love my romance stuff like Toradora, Ao Haru Ride, Kimi ni Todoke, etc., it's been years since I last watched them and pretty much need to rewatch them again if I wanna remember the overall story.
When it comes to the long running anime like Naruto & OP, they just stick with me. I get lost in the world building & the environments. I get invested in the characters and their relationships. Atp, the battle aspects of the battle shounen just supplement the story for me or hitting those dopamine rushes cause of how hype they are. Ofc, seasonal anime offer this experience too but it's just too staggered for me imo. AoT & JJK are great examples of that. This is why I prefer reading the manga over watching the anime.
Then there's the whole aspect of "what do I watch now after x show ended?" when it comes to the seasonal shows. I always suggest OP but like I said in the beginning, ppl disregard it for such a baseless reason. There's always that post depression feeling when it comes to finishing a series. You're sad that you're not immersed in another world and their characters. Well, long running anime can provide that same experience over a consistent and lengthy duration. I get that committing to a long series is hard in general (not just anime) but if you're genuinely loving the experience, why does it matter that it has x amount of episodes? If you're having a great time with the series, then you're gonna wish it never ends. This is what OP fans try to convey to ppl but i get that the community is pretty toxic online.
Finally, ik long running anime isn't sustainable when it comes to the anime/manga industry. We're seeing it firsthand with Oda & OP. The working conditions are gruesome. All we can do on our end is provide support and hope the industry reforms over the years. Sorry for the long comment LMAOO but I genuinely miss long running anime. Just really had to express my thoughts about it
i was born in 2005 my intro to anime were anime's from the 80's and studio ghibli movies than pokemon and akame ga kill
Ghibli is honestly a good introduction to anime, waht are some of your favourite ghili movies?
Seasonal anime is the best thing to happen to the industry - I grew up watching anime during the heyday of the early 2000s, I was going from high school to college when hulu and crunchyroll were just illegal anime streaming sites. Long running shit is full of still frames and wasted chances for hype, and I say this as someone who loved the big 3 growing up. But with most seasonal works, every encounter is eye candy, a motherfucker tearing open a loaf of bread can be one of the most entrancing series of frames you've ever seen.
Ngl, that bread metaphor you made would be great if Studio Wit animated Food Wars lol
That aside, I completely agree with your sentiments, seasonal anime has been a great thing for anime since it began, like I mentioned in the video, more time allows studios to actually make great quality shows and because of this we get shows like AOT, Made in Abyss, Ranking of Kings, JJK etc. I even mentioned it in my video about anime being better than manga during the Made in Abyss section that I'd rather wait to get a high quality show rather than read the manga. I don't mind waiting, infact if the quality of the material that is being adapted is high enough to match length it took to make it, then I don't care if it's a seasonal anime.
Long running series have their own benefits too, people can grow with a character, if you feel like you are at a very turbulant time in your life it's nice seeing that with the same character you are growing with. It can get people who love obsessing over characters for long periods of time, like, despite how much people shit on Boruto, there are actual people who love the anime, shocking I know but there are people who like the series despite how bad some people consider it to be.
That's why I said it's good to just enjoy the memories you share with the shows you grew up with, and enjoy the new landscape of the anime world we are living in
Liked hearing the megalobox soundtracks in the background, that series has some great OSTs.
Probably my second favourite anime OST, Attack on Titan is my current Favourite
Idk how i noticed but when talking about one piece you placed nier music. FUCKING LEGEND
And feel that on the fairy tail part its the witcher music but tell me if im coping
You are coping, but I can tell why you would think it would be The Witcher music, the music in Fairy Tail is very celtic inspired. The Witcher OST has Celtic and nowergian elements in it
Honestly, long running anime has the tendency to be crammed with filler, quantity over quality, I would much rather a more concise and condensed story than get two whole seasons of filler.
Would you believe me that some people actually liked the Bleach Fillers🤔?
@@tyronsredux I know, my partner is one of them🥲, she didn't even realize until I started pointing out things that didn't happen in the manga.
My boy I’m still read DB Manga and most people I know read it still are doing it… We are just going on a hiatus because they are just retelling Super Hero
Its always sad to see a fairy tale fan is so oblivious not to know that rave master exist
I know that Rave Master exists, pretty rude of you to assume I don't know Mashima's works
Honestly, I think that seasonal anime is the reason why I prefer reading manga when I start liking a series/looking on the jump app
Unlike with seasonal anime, you’re mostly able to read manga every week/biweekly depending on breaks, so you have much more time to grow with them, unlike seasonal anime where you’re just kinda
Watching for a bit
Decide if you like the series or not
It ends
Happiness/sadness occurs (sadness normally for slice of lifes)
So if I like an anime, I tend to just read the manga unless I can’t be bothered to, or if I just get spoiled for a series a bit I’ll prolly read the manga to avoid more spoilers
Also, with reading manga, it’s great when a new anime becomes one of your favourites, you read the manga, a new season is coming out and then you can’t wait to see some specific moments pop up
So yeah
Manga’s great
Yes it is, Manga is fantastic? Got any recommendations? I have a video planned for the future
@@tyronsredux I’m pretty boring when it comes to what I watch/read, though here’s what I’m reading as of current;
Undead Unluck
World Trigger
Jujutsu Kaisen
Vagabond
Berserk
Wild Strawberry
Shojo Null
MamaYuyu
Nue’s Exorcist
One Piece
Bleach
JoJo’s Bizarre adventure
Tensura (time I got reincarnated as a slime)
Tokyo Ghoul
Blue Lock
Chainsaw Man
Kagurabachi (unironically decent so far)
One Punch Man
As I said, I’m pretty boring when it comes to what I read/watch
Purely because asides from some of them, the stuff I read is practically all from Shounen Jump
Can't believe we could finish a 20min episode in an hour with all the ads in between
I know right😂
I see this as an absolute win
Finish your stories and don't milk them
Never forgiving Ken Wakui for milking the hell out Tokyo Revengers when it should have ended
@@tyronsreduxcan you explain how it was milked and when you think it should have ended? I personally think we needed the explanation on Mikey’s character but the last few arcs were written so horribly 😭🙏
@@bacongod5759 Honestly the series should have ended after the Tenjiku Arc. The decison to star focusing Mikey's "Dark Urges" was were the story decided to jump off the peak that it had reached. I don't even mind that Ken wanted to focus on Mikey but why not earlier during the manga, Mikey has always been a volatile person so having an arc before the Tenjiku Arc to get to the root of Mikey's problem would have been a much better way to conclude his arc. Then after the Tenjiku arc the story would end after the wedding and with an Epilogue chapter.
Jjk is prime example no boring bullshit just peak.
That Nier Soundtrack slapping tho.
Peak video game soundtrack
My introduction to anime was Detective Conan.
Are you still watching Detective Conan?
Wow! How'd you manage that? How'd you come across Detective Conan / Case Closed?
@@FullmoonPhantom-dn2srMy real introduction to anime is Mario, Megaman, Pokemon, and Sonic X
@@noahalcantar2431 Cool. Mine was Kenshin, InuYasha, and Ranma. Then some others my friend group got me into were Fruits Basket, Ouran, YYH, and Tokyo Mew Mew. After I realized what anime was, I also realized I had known the existence of several others in passing like Naruto, Pokémon, Yugioh among a handful of others. Just through the cultural zeitgeist I had picked up through osmosis. In the end, I decided to watch all of these. If I liked one anime, I might like several others after all. Loved all of these. Though, I never did go back and watch Pokémon. I adored it, but I let that one be just a nostalgic memory from childhood. It did become clear why I loved Avatar so much growing up and preferred many of the other cartoons that were highly influenced by anime or were literally anime like Pokémon. The 2000s especially was quite the time. So many things were influenced even if creators weren’t always forthcoming back in those days. It was kinda hush hush, I think, that’s why many weren’t forthcoming. It wasn’t cool for authors and other creators to admit they were influenced by foreign sources. Not yet. People often talked around the issue even when they were trying to be more forthcoming w/o literally saying it outright.
I agreed with you until your Shonen Jump Is Dying Segment. Jump has always axed manga the way they do now. Hell, standards as far as sales numbers go have been on a decline actually. Why that is, idk, because as someone who does read almost everything in Jump the current stuff is really good.
Never even knew fairy tail was hated till I spent some time on the internet, I love fairy tail and love the music and world.
Also started losing interest in anime the shorter they all got, even though I’ve also watched a lot of 12 episode anime’s over the years they were more slice of life and more grounded in our world, so I didn’t feel the need to know more about the world etc
I’ve read a lot of manga and manwha now doe and even light novels
Also feel like animation got too polished, there was a certain charm to animation style back in the day that just felt more charming to me. I didn’t even know anime was a thing till I moved to America at 13 and fell in love and watched so many but somewhere along the way I just found myself reading Manga more
I did watch overlord, saga of Tanya and one punch man. And the first two is what even got me into reading light novels.
Slice of life is the best anime genre
FT is mostly just hated for the popularity and other superficial reasons like it's too similar to OP. In-fighting between the different anime fandoms within the anime community is not anything new. People complain about the power of friendship, but that is in plenty of other anime. It's a staple of the battle anime genre and of the ideals Shonen marketed stories are meant to provide to young people.
I wouldn't say FT is hated anymore than anything else that gained immense popularity.
Where's my hug???
Edit- AND MY KISS????
6:04 And the superb characterization, particularly how the Straw Hats engaged during the festival in the Davy Back Fight arc on Adult Swim, captured my interest. The comedy was what sold me on it.
in terms of manga there do seem to be shonen stories that will last for quite a long time if all goes well. 2 great examples i would say are blue lock (thee current top selling manga) which has the potential to pull a timeskip after the next big arc that is coming up to show the characters playing professionally, another great but slightly more niche example is 'welcome to demon school iruma kun' the manga has like 34 volumes and still a lot of room to grow. it has crafted a pretty interesting world with it's own politics. i am sure u can find even more shonen manga and anime that have the potential to last for years if you look outside of jump
I swear, I thought I had responded to this comment lol. Yes I agree, there are plenty of shonen manga and not even just shonen manga but different genres of manga outside of Jump that have the chance to be long running. I'm glad you mentioned Blue Lock cause I see Blue Lock as one of thee only sports manga that might do Hajime no Imppo numbers. If not, then it can get to 500+ chapters
Also Iruma Kun is probably one of my favourite Shonen-Isekai stories, it feels like Isekai Harry Potter with demons and I feel like we haven't even scracted the surface of the actually story and we are what? 200+ chapters in. There definetly is more then just the shallow pond of manga/anime I chose to swim in for this video and honestly that's kind of an error on my part lol🥲😷
@@tyronsredux love to see people like the stuff I like. The stuff you covered is definitely important since jump has been a giant pool you could delve into. There are people who haven’t ventured outside of it and to be honest I haven’t done so very much either. Other demographics have different appeal and can’t quite tell the simple yet long and uplifting stories shonen tells imo. They often tell more complex stories (although I haven’t tried shojo or jousei so I have no room to speak on anything other than seinen) with deep themes that one can’t extend for insane amounts of time. Loved the video please keep up the great work : )
been watching anime since 2009 and only problem i have with one piece that it might end
crazy thing is, we are very close to the end
There isn't just cursed spirits in japan too if im not mistaken the character "Yuta" was overseas in a mission
Man the 1980's. Ole boy. Akura, Hellsing, Dragonball, Sailor moon, Vampire Hunter D, and Ronin Warriors. Miss all those.
Damn bruh, you old asl🥲
Jokes aside, I really should watch some of these classics, especially Vampire Hunter D
@@tyronsredux Lol. Yea some good old ones bro. I couldn't remember all but those are my favorite. That old asl comment funny as hell. If you watch hellsing watch both the original and OVA
Good I hate long running manga. There no reason to have over 500 chapters. Some of the best manga are short hell attack on titan Is only like 139 ish chapters and it's one of the best stories ever told. Only reason it took soong is because it was on a monthly release instead of weekly
I would agree with you if you used literally any other manga for your example, Attack on Titans last 5 chapters are a steaming pile of doo doo fart garabage, and I say this an Attack on Titan Fan
This is a concern I’ve been having recently. The weekly anime formula is what made anime so popular in the first place, knowing you’ll be able to watch your favorite anime on the almost every Saturday while eating breakfast is a great and nostalgic feeling and it’s not something you get with seasonal anime. You know your time is FAR more limited with this series and when it ends your stuck possibly wondering for years if that show you liked will get a season 2 or 3. At that point why even bother get invested in the anime if it’s likely your time with this show will be a measly 12 and less likely 24 episodes. Shonen become popular because people love seeing the MC go from a loser to a well respected warrior. It’s much harder to get that feeling with the uncertainty of seasonal anime.
I understand the value of seasonal anime, like animators have less work and we receive higher quality anime but the 12-24 episodes with a less then 50% chance of a continuation formula could kill shonen.
I know you'll probably get a ton of hate replies for this one with people telling you that you should just "Read the Manga" but we aren't talking about manga, we are talking about anime lol.
@@tyronsredux 😂
long running shonens are only gonna be for mangas that are near completion or already done.
Facts!
I'm personally game seasonal is becoming the norm. I get your point about growing up with anime series cause I did too but having to sit through awful filler arcs that last for weeks or a year, filler moments to pad out time, and some episodes just looking like dog shit cause the animators didn't have enough time to cook is something I'm fine with not going through anymore.
If Black Clover was seasonal and gave animators time to animate the craziest cuts of animation it would have probably taken off way faster than it took with the long running weekly episode that have mostly okay animation with a few episodes of stand out animation.
I will miss manga series going on for decades but as much as I love series like Naruto,Bleach, and Dragon ball the story in the last arcs or last handful of chapters take a nose dive in quality cause the author is burnt out, Get sick from overwork, and probably didn't imagine the story was going to be this long and didn't plan it out. I'd rather take every manga ending on their own terms with a bang than ending in a sad whimper cause the author is just DONE with their own series.
I read through the Tokyo ghoul manga which was roughly 300+ chapters and the final arc felt so weird and different from the rest of the manga and that was because the author fell out of love with his own series cause of all the stress it was putting on his body.
Honestly that's depressing to hear.... imagine having your dream job and telling your dream story and you fall out of love with it due to your body giving out and the stress of the industry
I agree a 100% with everything you are saying. I do think it varies from series to series thou, take JJK, Black Clover, Chainsaw Man and Fairy tail for example. JJK as an anime and manga has always been fast paced (when it isn't waffling about the power system) JJK tends to always get into the action very quickly, there isn't really time for fillers or for the world to slowly build, the story is always moving forward so of course the animation quality would probably be as high as possible.
One Piece, Fairy Tail and Black Clover are very more focused on the adventure aspect of the shows and they save the budget for the fight scenes, if you've watched the last 10 episodes of Black Clover, you can tell the budget went up drastically cause they were fighting most of the time, it wasn't focused on the adventure side.
Also as someone who recently read all of Tokyo Ghoul recently for the first time, I can also tell that Ishida-Sensei was cleary way to burnt out from the weekly release formula. I'm glad Ishida gets to drop chapters at his own pace for Choujin X
Hmm, i can agree on hating the 12 episode format. Less an issue with it being a short span and more it being a forced span. If you've watched some seasonal anime then you'll get the gist of the pacing for every show by the end of episode 1. Gets stale fast.
Series should be as long or short as they need to be. Cyberpunk works great as a short series, does everything it sets out to do. One piece works as an epic as thats accomplishing what it aims to do.
As for the future all the current gen series are coming to and end and we'll just get something new. I'm old enough to think anything post 2008 is brand new still so seen plenty come and go. It'll be great for the industry and i think what ever comes next will be closer to the spirit of one piece than anything else, we're due a new adventure.
I need more shows like Cyberpunk honestly
Oh SABC 2...remember that Dub "Tell It Like It Is" ad that took like 3 minutes? Made me mad as hell while waiting for naruto
Ads on SABC 2 were the bane of every South Africans weebs nightmares honestly
FMAB should not be considered long running. People forget it was a montly thing, and it is well written enough that you were an anime only (like me) you would find that narratively it has the feel of the harry potter novels. Just a good story constrained by the medium. A true long running shounen is negatively affected by the suits wanting a franchise. FMAB doesn't fall into that categorization.
I was too young around the time FMAB was airing (like I was probably 3/4yrs old) so I didn't know that it was actually a monthly series. The more you know I guess
you watch Internet Pitstop? just a guess but that midbump reminded me of him. Great video man!
Yes I do, I also watch SuperEyePatchWolf and their content is what inspires me lol.
I'm glad you like the video as well
ayy that's awesome man, I love Supereyepatchwolf too, best of luck on your youtube journey bro
I read all chapters. best manga ever. one of the few I grew up reading week to week. few people I've met have read the manga which is sad because it was a good manga.
A South African Otaku Weeb...Let's go!!!
Talk about how SABC 2 stopped airing an anime during it's most important ark😂
Oh yeah, was that during the Naruto Shippuden war arc