This is actually craaazy cool. Especially for all these gods like (eventually) nox, arachne, flex solo/supports and flex anything really. The devs will be able to lean their kits/aspects more into both roles. Absolute W change/addition 👏
Yeah making Nox 3 into either a supportive buff or letting her cast her kit from inside an ally would be nutty for her support gameplay. Could even make it so you can't 3 into allies but can 3 into enemies and they take increased damage and team mates lifesteal off them, once again could allow her to cast her kit from inside an enemy but that might be too far.
Paladins' Talent system was always my favourite thing about that game. And I've always hoped they would add the same thing to Smite. this is awesome, and I'm really looking forward to seeing what they can cook with some of these. I also think this can very much help alleviate some of the concern about the lack of drastic changes to some characters. Some amazing ideas have been thrown around, like letting bastet perch on walls or letting Morrigan swap with her clones. Adding these aspects basically lets you make all those awesome ideas, without making anybody upset, because you can always choose which Aspect you want or don't want.
I hope Pele’s Aspect just straight up turns her into a flex mage. Allowing you to focus on the 1’s damage and the aoe damage of the ult without necessarily needing to basic someone. I guess you would lose the auto attack buff on the ult and maybe reduce the aoe of the knockup?
This is prboably inspired by Dota 2's recent Facet system which is pretty much the same concept. Pre-Game talent you pick that alters your hero in some way. Its made the drafting phase and dota in general a lot more fun, happy to see it in smite 2.
@@okamiwolfie3290 roughly 6 months ago. it also brought the most tipped balance the game has ever had and that's saying smth because dota balance is usually very good at all lvls(usually only roughly 10 uncontested characters in pro, maybe less). So idk how much I would trust smite to balance it well when they haven't had as good of a track record. Maybe they pull it off well though because it's on a newer game release and can add gods slowly instead of dumping facets for 100+ characters at once.
I imagine it would a concept of mind with people suggesting or asking about it in the past. I know i've always wanted to see smite try going this direction with god abilities.
As someone who loves off meta/normal roles for gods im quite excited to see what they do with this. More gods in the jungle are a plus for me, but i would love to more see damagers transitioning to supports/brusiers. Cant wait to see what aspect arachne would get once shes added in 3 years :p .
Idea for a potential Nox aspect: *_Aspect of Nightfall:_*_ Shadow Step no longer deals damage when exiting a shadow. Shadow step is now faster, has a longer range, has a longer duration while inside an allied god’s shadow, and confers a portion of Nox’s own strength, intelligence and protections to that allied god._
I dont like how creators are saying the game is dying before its even out like bro it isnt even finished work. Smite beta came out in 2012 but the actual game didnt come out till 2014
They look so fun and exciting, outside of Anhur which I wish they'll revisit. Something like his ult not doing damage anymore but knocking back enemies, or the sand of his pillar acting as a vortex. Overall a neat mechanic for which the limit is only them
Fucking hyped as shit for aspects, they'll open up a lot of interesting and new ways to play gods for sure but I do feel like they could've been a little more. I want to see more abilities being completely changed like Danza's 2 and Khepri 1 rather than Anhur's mundane passive alteration. Anhur as an adc hits one target anyway, so really it makes no difference to how you play him. It's kinda sad as his aspects could've been wild.
I have been wanting something like this change since I started playing in season 3... also been a fan of off meta/off role picks when I watch the notes show this morning I was floored that it actually happened
Imagine Baba Yaga having several different aspects where she utilizes different sets of "ingredients" for her potions that have a variety of new effects. Or a Fafnir aspect where he's in dragon form (with nerfed abilities, obviously), and his ult transforms him into a mega-buffed dwarf. There are so many wacky and potentially amazing applications for the aspect system. Super interested to see where the devs take it.
@ ahhh I see. I somehow didn’t see that from the text. Either way I’m pumped. I think changes like these are amazing and even when it doesn’t change the role still being able to change the skill expression from different gods will be so fun.
Athena's Aspect Ult + Nu Wa & Neith Ult is gonna absolutely melt squishies. Also, I think danza's aspect would work great for STR-focused kits. INT builds (barring bracer and a few items) often come at the cost of basic attack damage, so having two guaranteed clothes spawn with a build that buffs your basic seems pretty nasty.
I have to say the aspects are very hit or miss but I'm gonna love that thanatos one, Hopefully they'll have it uncapped in the sense that surtr and charon both have uncapped passives for themselves. Can't wait to see too how well a tank thana will work out realistically.
All the Gods should have the same amount. Even if they are less viable. It feels weird to have some God with 3 and others with 1. Uniformity in these aspects make the game feel more cohesive and better made.
Counter argument- Some gods are designed for this and some arent. Look at rama for example, 2 of his abilities are basic attack stims and it makes him a monster for that category. You could try to change one or two things for him to experiment. And now someone like Ravana or change, gods who can play really well in 4 out of the 5 roles that exist in the game (or I can do that at least), you can do so so so so much more with their kits to change their playstyles. Would feel like wasted potential to limit them due to some gods not having as much to them to match their energy. It would also suck and cause a lot of negativity if they wasted time making lazy aspects for gods just to make the number match everyone else Also at some point, putting too much effort into some aspects and too many for some gods can hamper development of new gods. Some things can get applies to a new god or we may end up seeing too many repeats of one ability but in different tones. Its a big game design direction question to contemplate
I think you are missing the point of what he's saying. It's going to be hard of course but having some Gods have more than others makes the game look bad and cheap. It's that simple. A new player isn't going to assume that some have more because they are good in different roles etc. They will assume the game is unfinished and rightfully so. It's better to just redesign those Gods than to have an uneven amount of aspects. And I don't think there would be negativity if the aspects weren't good. Most of the ones now aren't. I think just having options opens up the game. Some of the Gods that are dominant in multiple roles can have an aspect that capitalizes on one. And I don't think it hinders new Gods as they can be tied to the current Gods abilities. Like giving Aphro an aspect that takes healing from her 3 and makes her 3 do a lot more damage etc. so it shouldn't really conflict with design space. Design the Gods first think of ways to switch their abilities after. @@slippery2322
depends on the god design. smite gods are usually on the simpler side so you won't need them having 5 options like some dota characters do unless it really fits. For example Chen really likes having 4-5 option facets cuz it rounds out the way his minion army works but other characters only care about 2 because their kits don't realistically NEED it.
I’m glad that my main geb will be one with an aspect on his release hopefully at least. I feel like it’ll be fun and wierd to play/get used to the aspects when ur so used to the way the god usually plays but it’s a fun new style of play
I love how every time theres smite 2 news its "omg this is gonna save smite 2" and then a month later everyones over it and talking about how dogshit the game is.
To be fair that's kinda how smite 1 was. A new God or season would release and it was "OMG this change is awesome!" Then a few months later, "ugh this game sucks and smite is dying." It's just kinda the life cycle of games like this
@@eightlights4939 Hecate also has inconsistent hard cc and is still viable as support. CC abilities are not what make or break a god or goddess as support, especially not in smite2
@@szunaloneheart3148 Hecate support works well because she has utility to counter the lack of CC. Bellona has basically zero support utility besides the disarm and I guess the buff from the ult.
these are a great idea, im all for it and they should get crazy with them and definitely make them feel impactful (pls don't outright nerf them too much, if you must, make bigger downsides instead of nerfing the upside)
As someone who loves danza jg, im really dossapointed in his. I would've loved to see a change to his 3 that makes it more viable for jg personally. Cool system though
@ Like I said, that’s entirely irrelevant as far as I play the god. I’d prefer to max out my CDR to the point where my Loki is invisible across the entire game more often than not, and to be able to share that with an ally is FAR more valuable to me.
I have an idea on how to fix active items: Make it so that every tier 3 item is _just_ a passive effect item, BUT THEN give every tier 3 item in the game (including Starter Item Upgrades) a new tier 4 upgrade with increased stats and a new or currently existing Active Item effect, hybridizing the Active Items with Smite 1’s Glyphs. Chronos’s Pendant for example could become the following: _Staff of Chronos_ 3000 Gold Intelligence 50 CDR 30 MPS 2 HPS 2 Passive: Your ability cooldowns are reduced by 1s every 10s. Active: Toggle to, in sequence, either have your MPS be converted into HPS, have your HPS be converted into MPS, or have your HPS and MPS be set back to normal.
I think they struggle enough making new things, for that not be a viable option. Not only would every single tier 3 item now need a new tier, 4 WITH an activateble effect. But they would also have to balance all of it, too. I think that's just asking for too much personally.
Yeah.... no, active itemas are tough to balance, adding more is not a good idea, keep them as they are, just make them stronger so they feel rewarding to feel.
Idea to spice up the Anhur aspect: Make it so that his leap also has increased range and a slightly lower cooldown, so that he becomes a more mobile god.
Problem is smite 2 effectively killed its own fanbase. Almost immediately stopped making content for og smite after saying they would still support it. And expected their diehards, the life blood of the game and reason for its success to just be ok with losing everything and starting over. Instead of switching over the players are just cutting losses. And new players are stuck playing against pros half the time because the player count is that small. I hate to say it but it’s gonna take more then this I think
This game died in my opinion the moment they refuses to give me the content I paid for (EVERY events and cross-gen content other than deluxe) and also refused to refund it. Hi-rez staff are nothing short of scumbags trying to make easy money off their own fanbase.
I feel like changing one ability isn't enough to really change a god enough for it to feel super impactful. I think it would feel more impactful if it changed two abilities or changed the passive and an ability.
I think it’s too early to say. MOBAs are always notoriously complex, adding a new mechanic like aspects already adds a new layer of complexity regardless of how many abilities it impacts. I don’t think there should be a set minimum or maximum for abilities impacted, instead I care more about the quality of each aspect.
@@funwalkthroughs1285 also, the more aspects you do and the more changing they bring to the god means that newer gods will be less original. I think changing only one ability is good enough, more would be too much.
Yeah like I can see something like: Bellona having her shield bash be a stun instead of a slow or her whip having the capability of grabbing/pulling someone thus losing the disarm effect. Anhur’s shifting sands with a tremble effect or a speed increase for him instead of a slow. His ult being a single harpoon that stuns and goes through the person he hits with it while also decreasing in dmg Hercules’ mitigate wounds being a power buff to him and his allies instead of a heal, his ult being a slow or a stun with its dmg decrease to give that support like feeling Athena’s dash being a knock back ability or a stun (only if charged up) removing the slow/mitgation she gets from it, her taunt being replaced with a bleed effect making her more of a scary brusier/jungler
Some aspects aint change or bring new role opportunity just becoming more dumb damage version of the original one (like Anhur,Neith and Chaac) So far I didn't like it, not creative enough. For Athena, changing ult ain't a game changer about her jungle role. You could've do something with dash for example. You could've do something with Ra's #2 instead of the ult. Also he has no hard cc so Ra not a valid supp but even if you try you'll all go for heal buffer items and magical power for scaling. Cuz for Objection securing Support Ra with some damage can be useful. And Now he still ain't have any hard CC and you taking away his objection securing too ? Danza and Morrigan is the only fun and "different aspect" ones.
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Yah I’m gonna be real, that Chaac aspect seems ass. Chaac’s entire identity pretty much revolves around the sustain provided by rain dance. He is gonna be made of paper if you take that aspect. Like the damage has to be insane to make it remotely worth.
Nah the damage is bout to be crazy. Especially if it stacks. Then you can use gem of isolation to slow them either further
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@ yah but you are gonna die in like 3 seconds because you have no other abilities to help keep you alive and you have 1 form of hard cc. That’s the problem. Like, the damage has to be ABSOLUTELY BUSTED to be even remotely worth considered. The healing it normally provides is insane and is the entire reason why chaac can take any dmg.
Just build more bulk. No different than any other warrior without sustain.
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@@condorgaming4000 then what is the point of taking the aspect? Also, most other warriors without sustain have way more cc and defensive abilities. Chaac doesn’t have any of those cause of the absurd sustain rain dance provides.
He still gets slight sustain from his passive. He has CC with his ult and his slow. When all else fails he can throw his axe and run in a different direction. Then teleport to the axe if they commit to following him. I like the aspect, he's like a better odin
This is way more interesting than letting every god use every item. Certain Items should be unique to classes, it makes them special. It is why rpg’s have always worked. Now if they changed the aspect and a couple items changed also it would be much better.
As a solo queuer, having to play against a stack of stealthed players makes me cringe. Stealth and executes are just poor designs and do not belong in the game. I will die on this hill.
If they aren't designed for thorough 2 way counter play from the start it usually feels awful to fight and probably gets nerfed so that it feels mediocre to play too.
Ideas to improve Relics and/or Active Items: Make it so, like the aspect system here, you can either have 1 and 1, or 2 of the one while forgoing the other entirely. So if you want Phantom Shell AND Aegis, sure thing, BUT it’s back to a 6 item system for you for that match. OR if you want an 8 item build, that’s 2 starter items for you, at the cost of not having a relic to use that match.
@@Inters3ct yo mb, for some reason i thought it was referring to his 2.................... i have NOO idea why and ngl i feel like really dumb. so imma just edit the main comment to something random
Doesn't sound very interesting. Yeah it may shake things up a little bit but will probably cause more problems. This sounds like its more aimed for more higher levels of play and might be too ambitious as a launch system. It looks good on paper but think that 90% of them will be utterly worthless with 10% breaking the game. I'm positive that some of the more popular gods are going to get some broken and interesting ones with the least popular gods getting completely shafted.
They can’t both balance and do new ideas at the same time right now. They are adding first and balancing later for when the game is actually going to start coming out. Its just a process.
Can something just not be for me? It’s not like I said this will kill the game. In fact it will surely be good for it. Just not the direction I wanted to see.
Genuinely not a fan of this idk kinda overcomplicates the game unnecessarily I'd rather they just add a league esque system of choosing your runepage before game if they wanted to add more customization
@@whiteysmit6653Why would you confuse people as to what version of a character they are playing against? Just makes the game harder to learn, and trust me the average Smite player is already terrible. Smite is a MOBA where no one pre masters knows the map exists. Adding character variation just seems like added fluff especially because one version will always be better than the other for 90% of the champs. Will probably be fun for casual trolling, I won’t argue that
@@RJ........... smite has been dying for years because they keep adding stuff like this. Their moba core have silently moved on so now all they can do is appeal to this weird space of players that want to play a game like smite but isn't actually a moba. Smite doesn't need need innovation it needs to decide if it's going to be a moba or not.
@@lordmew5How is Smite dying because they add new things? Also, what the hell do you mean "decide if it's a MOBA or not"? It absolutely is, but it's also always been different from League and DotA
@@Yoshyguy21 where did I say smite is dying because they are adding new things? Smite should be different by a slightly different map and buffs and different items not by removing boots so the so the game lacks what should be a solid length early game that shows you know how to properly farm and play in a lane
@@Merc7734only silver lining i guess is predecessor still lives maybe and maybe gets a player base spike as smite refugees go to the only other third person moba. League and dota wont have those like me who just don't like top down click to move MOBAs
This is actually craaazy cool. Especially for all these gods like (eventually) nox, arachne, flex solo/supports and flex anything really. The devs will be able to lean their kits/aspects more into both roles.
Absolute W change/addition 👏
Yeah making Nox 3 into either a supportive buff or letting her cast her kit from inside an ally would be nutty for her support gameplay. Could even make it so you can't 3 into allies but can 3 into enemies and they take increased damage and team mates lifesteal off them, once again could allow her to cast her kit from inside an enemy but that might be too far.
Paladins' Talent system was always my favourite thing about that game. And I've always hoped they would add the same thing to Smite.
this is awesome, and I'm really looking forward to seeing what they can cook with some of these.
I also think this can very much help alleviate some of the concern about the lack of drastic changes to some characters. Some amazing ideas have been thrown around, like letting bastet perch on walls or letting Morrigan swap with her clones. Adding these aspects basically lets you make all those awesome ideas, without making anybody upset, because you can always choose which Aspect you want or don't want.
That khepri aspect on top of making his ult more of a debuff execution sounds cool as hell I can see it being something he have.
I hope Pele’s Aspect just straight up turns her into a flex mage. Allowing you to focus on the 1’s damage and the aoe damage of the ult without necessarily needing to basic someone. I guess you would lose the auto attack buff on the ult and maybe reduce the aoe of the knockup?
Khepri aspect is just brutalize lmfao
This is prboably inspired by Dota 2's recent Facet system which is pretty much the same concept. Pre-Game talent you pick that alters your hero in some way. Its made the drafting phase and dota in general a lot more fun, happy to see it in smite 2.
deffo comes from their other game paladins which has had a system like this for ages
It's probably been an idea for a few months, if not more. idk when that dota 2 thing happened
@@okamiwolfie3290 roughly 6 months ago. it also brought the most tipped balance the game has ever had and that's saying smth because dota balance is usually very good at all lvls(usually only roughly 10 uncontested characters in pro, maybe less). So idk how much I would trust smite to balance it well when they haven't had as good of a track record. Maybe they pull it off well though because it's on a newer game release and can add gods slowly instead of dumping facets for 100+ characters at once.
The smite guys also make paladins which has a card system that lets you alter your characters. Pretty sure it's inspired by that.
I imagine it would a concept of mind with people suggesting or asking about it in the past. I know i've always wanted to see smite try going this direction with god abilities.
As someone who loves off meta/normal roles for gods im quite excited to see what they do with this. More gods in the jungle are a plus for me, but i would love to more see damagers transitioning to supports/brusiers.
Cant wait to see what aspect arachne would get once shes added in 3 years :p .
I'd like to see Warrior aspects that allows them to exchange utility for damage, to have more proper bruisers in the game
Idea for a potential Nox aspect:
*_Aspect of Nightfall:_*_ Shadow Step no longer deals damage when exiting a shadow. Shadow step is now faster, has a longer range, has a longer duration while inside an allied god’s shadow, and confers a portion of Nox’s own strength, intelligence and protections to that allied god._
yea i've always been surprised that noxs dash doesnt buff teammates, even a 10% mitigation would have been nice
Nah
@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire plz no
I dont like how creators are saying the game is dying before its even out like bro it isnt even finished work. Smite beta came out in 2012 but the actual game didnt come out till 2014
They look so fun and exciting, outside of Anhur which I wish they'll revisit. Something like his ult not doing damage anymore but knocking back enemies, or the sand of his pillar acting as a vortex. Overall a neat mechanic for which the limit is only them
Fucking hyped as shit for aspects, they'll open up a lot of interesting and new ways to play gods for sure but I do feel like they could've been a little more.
I want to see more abilities being completely changed like Danza's 2 and Khepri 1 rather than Anhur's mundane passive alteration.
Anhur as an adc hits one target anyway, so really it makes no difference to how you play him. It's kinda sad as his aspects could've been wild.
Yeah aspects have to be very relevant changes that alters even what you'll have to build, if it's not drastic then what's the point
Missed like half the titan talk, glad you uploaded this quick so I didn't have to wait for them to post the vod😂
I have been wanting something like this change since I started playing in season 3... also been a fan of off meta/off role picks when I watch the notes show this morning I was floored that it actually happened
was just checking these out in pts, they look sick
The aspect of concealment is gonna make ymir bombers go crazy
Imagine Baba Yaga having several different aspects where she utilizes different sets of "ingredients" for her potions that have a variety of new effects.
Or a Fafnir aspect where he's in dragon form (with nerfed abilities, obviously), and his ult transforms him into a mega-buffed dwarf.
There are so many wacky and potentially amazing applications for the aspect system. Super interested to see where the devs take it.
4:57 will you have to use the ult now because if you canceled the ult after looking where the enemy was it’d be so broken….
It only targets *visible* enemy gods so that won't be an issue
@ ahhh I see. I somehow didn’t see that from the text. Either way I’m pumped. I think changes like these are amazing and even when it doesn’t change the role still being able to change the skill expression from different gods will be so fun.
chaacs rain doing damage also gives him 4 abilities that proc on hit ability effects
Yeah that could be nutty, might not work this way but could even double proc on rain with axe with down.
I’m excited for the cern one in particular. I’ve always felt cern was underrated as a jg and I think it’d be awesome to see him take on that role.
He's no really underrated. He cant do it to the same level a true jungle can. Maybe with this aspect he now can
I have gone through the aspects and i cant wait for aspect chacc with mystic. Also geb jungle going ham in January. Loki with a friend will be fun
Frostalis Cern 😂
Athena's Aspect Ult + Nu Wa & Neith Ult is gonna absolutely melt squishies.
Also, I think danza's aspect would work great for STR-focused kits. INT builds (barring bracer and a few items) often come at the cost of basic attack damage, so having two guaranteed clothes spawn with a build that buffs your basic seems pretty nasty.
Athena's removes the ult damage so not really
It’s taken many years for cern to become a jungler BUT THEYVE DONE IT
Yeah this basically cements it. Before it was more of a meme
They had a chance to give loki aimed strike back 😭😭
I have to say the aspects are very hit or miss but I'm gonna love that thanatos one, Hopefully they'll have it uncapped in the sense that surtr and charon both have uncapped passives for themselves. Can't wait to see too how well a tank thana will work out realistically.
It seems we can get old persephone back cant wait.
anhur’s aspect could also turn his pillar into old vulcan thumper
Bruh that aspect on Athena support is gonna be CRAZY
All the Gods should have the same amount. Even if they are less viable. It feels weird to have some God with 3 and others with 1.
Uniformity in these aspects make the game feel more cohesive and better made.
Yeah I agree with you.
Or you could make 1 aspect that will help certain gods in multiple roles, just requires more thought.
Counter argument- Some gods are designed for this and some arent. Look at rama for example, 2 of his abilities are basic attack stims and it makes him a monster for that category. You could try to change one or two things for him to experiment. And now someone like Ravana or change, gods who can play really well in 4 out of the 5 roles that exist in the game (or I can do that at least), you can do so so so so much more with their kits to change their playstyles. Would feel like wasted potential to limit them due to some gods not having as much to them to match their energy. It would also suck and cause a lot of negativity if they wasted time making lazy aspects for gods just to make the number match everyone else Also at some point, putting too much effort into some aspects and too many for some gods can hamper development of new gods. Some things can get applies to a new god or we may end up seeing too many repeats of one ability but in different tones. Its a big game design direction question to contemplate
I think you are missing the point of what he's saying. It's going to be hard of course but having some Gods have more than others makes the game look bad and cheap. It's that simple.
A new player isn't going to assume that some have more because they are good in different roles etc. They will assume the game is unfinished and rightfully so. It's better to just redesign those Gods than to have an uneven amount of aspects.
And I don't think there would be negativity if the aspects weren't good. Most of the ones now aren't. I think just having options opens up the game. Some of the Gods that are dominant in multiple roles can have an aspect that capitalizes on one. And I don't think it hinders new Gods as they can be tied to the current Gods abilities. Like giving Aphro an aspect that takes healing from her 3 and makes her 3 do a lot more damage etc. so it shouldn't really conflict with design space. Design the Gods first think of ways to switch their abilities after.
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depends on the god design. smite gods are usually on the simpler side so you won't need them having 5 options like some dota characters do unless it really fits. For example Chen really likes having 4-5 option facets cuz it rounds out the way his minion army works but other characters only care about 2 because their kits don't realistically NEED it.
@kf532 Only care about or only have 2?
I’m glad that my main geb will be one with an aspect on his release hopefully at least. I feel like it’ll be fun and wierd to play/get used to the aspects when ur so used to the way the god usually plays but it’s a fun new style of play
I love how every time theres smite 2 news its "omg this is gonna save smite 2" and then a month later everyones over it and talking about how dogshit the game is.
True 💀
Game is dogshit but free2play will save us
To be fair that's kinda how smite 1 was. A new God or season would release and it was "OMG this change is awesome!" Then a few months later, "ugh this game sucks and smite is dying." It's just kinda the life cycle of games like this
It’s feeling like every game that constantly updates is like this lol
@@michaelfarnes4011 except League
FIRST, WE HAD RA MID
THEN RA SOLO BECAME META
AND NOW, RA SUPPORT WILL FINALLY BE VIABLE
THE BIRD STAYS ON TOP 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
Geb being shown like he was a cameo on the set of a 90s sitcom
I remember asking for a system similar to this in Smite 1. Glad they are at least trying it.
okay so now hitting the morrigan clone is actually necessary.
AA Khepri incomming!
Bellona support is about to become the strongest character in the game, what did I just read xd
(The whole system is super cool tho)
She has no hard CC besides her ult. Not a good support. That aspect is kind of dogwater tbh
@@eightlights4939 Hecate also has inconsistent hard cc and is still viable as support. CC abilities are not what make or break a god or goddess as support, especially not in smite2
@@szunaloneheart3148 Hecate support works well because she has utility to counter the lack of CC. Bellona has basically zero support utility besides the disarm and I guess the buff from the ult.
Dang it, I wanted them to turn Loki into a mage.
Is nemesis' aspect like endeavor from Pokemon? Like it decreases their health to the average between the two?
these are a great idea, im all for it and they should get crazy with them and definitely make them feel impactful (pls don't outright nerf them too much, if you must, make bigger downsides instead of nerfing the upside)
As someone who loves danza jg, im really dossapointed in his. I would've loved to see a change to his 3 that makes it more viable for jg personally. Cool system though
He wouldn't need that if he was a real jungler. Which he is not. Idk why they put him there. Its misleading and will lead to many thrown games
12:31 I keep forgetting about the debuff entirely anyway, so as far as I’m concerned this is a straight upgrade for me.
Dude the debuff IS the DOT damage... Loki gives up nearly all the damage off his 1 for being able to invis a teammate.
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Like I said, that’s entirely irrelevant as far as I play the god. I’d prefer to max out my CDR to the point where my Loki is invisible across the entire game more often than not, and to be able to share that with an ally is FAR more valuable to me.
@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFireso you're that loki just spamming invis and not really doing anything in my games lol
My fav part of paladins (talents) coming to smite in a really cool way, love it!
I have an idea on how to fix active items:
Make it so that every tier 3 item is _just_ a passive effect item, BUT THEN give every tier 3 item in the game (including Starter Item Upgrades) a new tier 4 upgrade with increased stats and a new or currently existing Active Item effect, hybridizing the Active Items with Smite 1’s Glyphs.
Chronos’s Pendant for example could become the following:
_Staff of Chronos_
3000 Gold
Intelligence 50
CDR 30
MPS 2
HPS 2
Passive: Your ability cooldowns are reduced by 1s every 10s.
Active: Toggle to, in sequence, either have your MPS be converted into HPS, have your HPS be converted into MPS, or have your HPS and MPS be set back to normal.
I think they struggle enough making new things, for that not be a viable option. Not only would every single tier 3 item now need a new tier, 4 WITH an activateble effect. But they would also have to balance all of it, too. I think that's just asking for too much personally.
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That sounds like an actual skill issue.
Yeah.... no, active itemas are tough to balance, adding more is not a good idea, keep them as they are, just make them stronger so they feel rewarding to feel.
Never happening. Hi rez/Titan forge already said actives are limited.
That Herc aspect might as well not exist. To me it sounds incredibly boring.
3 days in a row of smite and it's been fun. 🎉
Idea to spice up the Anhur aspect:
Make it so that his leap also has increased range and a slightly lower cooldown, so that he becomes a more mobile god.
I looked at the title and said “huh” 😭
this is the first news about the game that i think earns it the right to be called smite 2 lol
The Nem aspect is better if you’re going bruiser/full tank not that interesting if you’re full dmg
I love your videos 💜
Problem is smite 2 effectively killed its own fanbase. Almost immediately stopped making content for og smite after saying they would still support it. And expected their diehards, the life blood of the game and reason for its success to just be ok with losing everything and starting over. Instead of switching over the players are just cutting losses. And new players are stuck playing against pros half the time because the player count is that small. I hate to say it but it’s gonna take more then this I think
This game died in my opinion the moment they refuses to give me the content I paid for (EVERY events and cross-gen content other than deluxe) and also refused to refund it. Hi-rez staff are nothing short of scumbags trying to make easy money off their own fanbase.
The problem is the casual players dont want this just like we didnt want DOTA items or the whole any god uses any stats BS.
Im gonna go Aphrodite jungle
Danza is so goated
Also nothing for Nubis?!?!?!
Eventually
I feel like changing one ability isn't enough to really change a god enough for it to feel super impactful. I think it would feel more impactful if it changed two abilities or changed the passive and an ability.
Yeah, but I have a better idea, why not make only one god but with 150 aspects, eh?
I think it’s too early to say. MOBAs are always notoriously complex, adding a new mechanic like aspects already adds a new layer of complexity regardless of how many abilities it impacts. I don’t think there should be a set minimum or maximum for abilities impacted, instead I care more about the quality of each aspect.
@@funwalkthroughs1285 also, the more aspects you do and the more changing they bring to the god means that newer gods will be less original. I think changing only one ability is good enough, more would be too much.
@@mcnuggeton5696 I agree! great input :)
Yeah like I can see something like:
Bellona having her shield bash be a stun instead of a slow or her whip having the capability of grabbing/pulling someone thus losing the disarm effect.
Anhur’s shifting sands with a tremble effect or a speed increase for him instead of a slow. His ult being a single harpoon that stuns and goes through the person he hits with it while also decreasing in dmg
Hercules’ mitigate wounds being a power buff to him and his allies instead of a heal, his ult being a slow or a stun with its dmg decrease to give that support like feeling
Athena’s dash being a knock back ability or a stun (only if charged up) removing the slow/mitgation she gets from it, her taunt being replaced with a bleed effect making her more of a scary brusier/jungler
SMITE
Some aspects aint change or bring new role opportunity just becoming more dumb damage version of the original one (like Anhur,Neith and Chaac) So far I didn't like it, not creative enough. For Athena, changing ult ain't a game changer about her jungle role. You could've do something with dash for example. You could've do something with Ra's #2 instead of the ult. Also he has no hard cc so Ra not a valid supp but even if you try you'll all go for heal buffer items and magical power for scaling. Cuz for Objection securing Support Ra with some damage can be useful. And Now he still ain't have any hard CC and you taking away his objection securing too ?
Danza and Morrigan is the only fun and "different aspect" ones.
Yah I’m gonna be real, that Chaac aspect seems ass. Chaac’s entire identity pretty much revolves around the sustain provided by rain dance. He is gonna be made of paper if you take that aspect. Like the damage has to be insane to make it remotely worth.
Nah the damage is bout to be crazy. Especially if it stacks. Then you can use gem of isolation to slow them either further
@ yah but you are gonna die in like 3 seconds because you have no other abilities to help keep you alive and you have 1 form of hard cc. That’s the problem. Like, the damage has to be ABSOLUTELY BUSTED to be even remotely worth considered. The healing it normally provides is insane and is the entire reason why chaac can take any dmg.
Just build more bulk. No different than any other warrior without sustain.
@@condorgaming4000 then what is the point of taking the aspect? Also, most other warriors without sustain have way more cc and defensive abilities. Chaac doesn’t have any of those cause of the absurd sustain rain dance provides.
He still gets slight sustain from his passive. He has CC with his ult and his slow. When all else fails he can throw his axe and run in a different direction. Then teleport to the axe if they commit to following him. I like the aspect, he's like a better odin
This is way more interesting than letting every god use every item. Certain Items should be unique to classes, it makes them special. It is why rpg’s have always worked. Now if they changed the aspect and a couple items changed also it would be much better.
As a solo queuer, having to play against a stack of stealthed players makes me cringe. Stealth and executes are just poor designs and do not belong in the game. I will die on this hill.
Then you can die dumber than most. Executes are based.
@@thedoomslayer5863 executes are a crutch for people with disabilities.
If they aren't designed for thorough 2 way counter play from the start it usually feels awful to fight and probably gets nerfed so that it feels mediocre to play too.
Ideas to improve Relics and/or Active Items:
Make it so, like the aspect system here, you can either have 1 and 1, or 2 of the one while forgoing the other entirely.
So if you want Phantom Shell AND Aegis, sure thing, BUT it’s back to a 6 item system for you for that match.
OR if you want an 8 item build, that’s 2 starter items for you, at the cost of not having a relic to use that match.
So now on top of everything else they have to do, they have to create basically two gods of the same god? Seems like too much for no reason.
It's nowhere close to creating 2 gods, it's probably more like 5-10% extra dev time for most aspects, maybe a tiny bit more for some.
Not the morrigan having more potential glitches
they should have taken cern's aspect on Medusa instead. I think it would have worked 1000 times better, and been really nice to play
Yeah she plays almost like a assassin anyway
Apart from two of these the rest are just fluff. Maybe fun to mess around with one time but most of this will never be used otherwise.
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The blind is his 2 not his 1, the 'debuff' on his 1 is the entire damage of it which he will lose for this aspect.
@@Inters3ct yo mb, for some reason i thought it was referring to his 2.................... i have NOO idea why and ngl i feel like really dumb. so imma just edit the main comment to something random
@@enjaded7222 LMAO funny edit, but nah it's understandable cause the damage being considered a 'debuff' is kinda confusing.
@@Inters3ct no no, i literally looked at 'Vanish' and my head said 'thats his 2'. i wouldnt even understand myself on that one
First, gottem
Can't wait for this to bring more balancing problems and the illusion of choice
Doesn't sound very interesting. Yeah it may shake things up a little bit but will probably cause more problems. This sounds like its more aimed for more higher levels of play and might be too ambitious as a launch system. It looks good on paper but think that 90% of them will be utterly worthless with 10% breaking the game. I'm positive that some of the more popular gods are going to get some broken and interesting ones with the least popular gods getting completely shafted.
Ewww
Videos are hard to watch never met someone who doesn’t use commas when they talk.
Man literally didn't use a comma in his own sentence when one was needed but is roasting me lmao
He’s baby girl tho
Bro these clowns can't even balance existing shit but they just add random new shit constantly it's peak hilarity
They can’t both balance and do new ideas at the same time right now. They are adding first and balancing later for when the game is actually going to start coming out. Its just a process.
@@veloxicality yeah right that why we have so many balanced times in smite 1 atm
This reveal has almost completely killed my interest in Smite 2 unfortunately. Aladdin better be cool.
Update: He is pretty darn cool.
why?
@@dragneel2782He doesn't even know
Can something just not be for me? It’s not like I said this will kill the game. In fact it will surely be good for it. Just not the direction I wanted to see.
@@Cutter-o5f what direction did you want to see?
Ngl too many support shifts
Being one of the least played roles, it doesn't suprise me.
Support is in a horrible spot right now so this is definitely a good thing
Genuinely not a fan of this idk kinda overcomplicates the game unnecessarily I'd rather they just add a league esque system of choosing your runepage before game if they wanted to add more customization
You’re dense.
Terrible confusing idea
I think it’s gonna be sweet
I think you’re just dense af if you really are confused.
@@whiteysmit6653Why would you confuse people as to what version of a character they are playing against? Just makes the game harder to learn, and trust me the average Smite player is already terrible. Smite is a MOBA where no one pre masters knows the map exists. Adding character variation just seems like added fluff especially because one version will always be better than the other for 90% of the champs. Will probably be fun for casual trolling, I won’t argue that
This seems dumb and ridiculous. I don't know why they just refuse to just make a good solid moba.
Wah wah wah
Being innovative is dumb and ridiculous? Smites been dying for years. Very slowly. Remaking smite 1 to 1. Is a lot of money, for a dead game
@@RJ........... smite has been dying for years because they keep adding stuff like this. Their moba core have silently moved on so now all they can do is appeal to this weird space of players that want to play a game like smite but isn't actually a moba. Smite doesn't need need innovation it needs to decide if it's going to be a moba or not.
@@lordmew5How is Smite dying because they add new things?
Also, what the hell do you mean "decide if it's a MOBA or not"? It absolutely is, but it's also always been different from League and DotA
@@Yoshyguy21 where did I say smite is dying because they are adding new things?
Smite should be different by a slightly different map and buffs and different items not by removing boots so the so the game lacks what should be a solid length early game that shows you know how to properly farm and play in a lane
Oh so they looked at DOTA 2......not bad.
Can't wait to see the insane amount of copium when smite 2 flops.
Can't wait to see u log on and put thousands of hours in and feel stupid for being a weird hater.
Smite 2 will succeed
If smite 2 flops, hirez dies and if hirez dies then smite 1 dies.
@@Merc7734Smite 1 is dead regardless. They are not going to keep working on Smite 1 once Smite 2 launches
@@Merc7734only silver lining i guess is predecessor still lives maybe and maybe gets a player base spike as smite refugees go to the only other third person moba.
League and dota wont have those like me who just don't like top down click to move MOBAs