Thoroughly enjoyed this episode comparing older to recent guarding/protection breeds. Here are some other not so recent but certainly not old breeds used for similar purposes. 1. Donovan Pinscher. 2. Lakota Mastino. Both worthy of doing episodes on !!
My wife and I have two and one loves water and the other doesn't mind it. But she isn't really into it. We have a small river that runs through our property (517 acres). And if I can't find Charlie, I always go to the river. We own the river rights. So every so often we get whisky companies who pay to use our water....it's the limestone water that's purported to be the best. I never knew this, but we'll take the money and a few cases of excellent whiskey. I bring this up, because Charlie will go and guard them while they take the water. Abby, she won't leave my side. Both are red nose dobies and they are our 6&7th dobies. It's all we've owned and never lost a dog to DCM or thyroid disease. Garratt Dobermans in Dallas TX breeds excellent pups does DNA testing, etc. But his dobies are breed for temperment....ours still trained well and fine guarding. Just need them to alert us. Then I'll take over. We're in a rural area on alot of land. So it's more like coyotes issues.
5 generations deep in the program with the oldest dog being 7 years old. This is not good and looks like a rushed program. I’d like to see an entire litter (5th gen) side by side so as to see the potential throw backs that this speed of program may bring. The type clearly isn’t locked it which means that temp is as unpredictable as type.
I appreciate how this video detailed and comparison! The focus on the health and performance of the Borz Hund is inspiring-especially when addressing hereditary diseases. It's fascinating to see how selective breeding can prioritize functionality over looks
You can't "compare" a breed that's been around for well over a hundred years, with a dog that is no older than 7 years at best. The creator can say whatever he wants, we don't even know what breeds have gone into the Borz Hund, so far. This is a good looking dog that's still being created. It's not a finished product, so a comparison is not right to do at this point. The biggest problem with most breeds, especially working breeds, is too much popularity. The original Dobermans didn't have many of the issues that the modern dog does, same for the German Shepherd Dog. IF the Borz Hund ever got as popular as the Doberman or GSD, it would more than likely have many more issues than are being reported by the creator right now. On top of that, many health issues don't show up until after 7 years, the oldest dog is only 7 years old. This is another reason a comparison cannot be done accurately.
I absolutely LOVE Dobermanns. Since I was a young child I have met many amazing dobermans with stable and goofy personalities while also protective. Unfortunately, within the past 2 years my mom (who also loves Dobermanns) has been lunged at by one after being invited to pet it by the owners in a very public space....then recently another couple invited her to pet their doberman and my mom trusted them and went to pet the dog who appeared friendly and it snapped and it almost took her hand off. Both owners said "oh my gosh he's never done this before....." I love these dogs but many people who have them lately, consider them unstable now and don't do proper training with them. I'm sad to see one of my favorite breed being ruined. I hope the European line stays healthy and they can regain their health.
Same, it's so sad when people don't do the proper work with such an awesome breed and when breeders breed for LOOKS and not for personality and health.
Funny, in US are Standard poodles often compared to dobrmans as great family dog with great temperament. Which sounds kind of crazy because in Europe they are still good working dog. Knowing all illnesses of breed is based on years of testing generation after generation. Also I would love to see reason for breeding another and another and another new guarding working breed.
I haven't even viewed the video. And I can tell you, which breed is better. DOBERMAN'S. But then I'm extremely partial with Dobies. It's the only breed my wife and I have ever owned. Currently we have two red nose Dobies (Abby & Charlie). It's 45 degrees in TN and Abby the Doberman, is sitting outside on our backyard deck, guarding. She is more than welcomed to come inside the house. But she loves being outside....I put a blankey on her too. CHarlie is sitting next to me as I write this. The boy never leaves my side. Doberman's are loving, loyal, curious, gentle, highly trainable, super intelligent and smart.
A girlfriend years ago had a cousin who had a red Doberman that was 175 lbs. He was huge but friendly and rather clumsy and cumbersome and was winded quite quickly !
Very informative video. Can you make a video on the American Mastiff? It was developed by crossing an English Mastiff with a Kangal. According to the breeder, the goal was to develop a breed that resembled an English Mastiff but with fewer health issues and a dryer mouth.
2:35 I assume that with "5 Generations in" he means they are in the F5 Generation. In the following sentence, he says "We are about 8 years in". That means that the average breeding age of his females was just 1,6 years. Many working dog clubs ban bitches of less than 3 years from breeding - out of ethical reasons as well as because in working breeds and large breeds, a dog's full ability often show only at about the 2 or 3 years old. To me it seems the Borzhund breeder is more breeding for looks than working abilities.
I agree, I also think that having a secret pedigree is not serious practice. If he want to call it a working breed, then what are the merits of the dogs he is breeding on? Any prizes? Any tests? IGP? Almost any dog can do bite work as a hobby.
Wolves and kangals have long snouts and much higher bite force than any dog. It's a myth to suggest that long snouts have weaker bite force. It's actually according to the size of the head that gives you a better picture of bite force.
Personally I think it is better for a protection dog to keep biting different spots but it is better for police work or protection sports for a dog to bite and hold.
Very interesting video Anneka! Both breed are beautiful but it's a shame that the dobermann has more health problems in recent years. Breeders should worry about the health of the dogs in addition to physical appearance! Thank you very much Anneka,have nice time!🙏😍🫶
It’s a damn shame what people are doing to our working dogs. 30 years ago you could take just about anyone’s German shepherd and make them an excellent protection dog. Try that today.
The Borz Hund most likely contains Dobermann but he doesn't want to say that because he doesn't want other breeders to do a better job than him on developing this mutt.
I have a rescued Basenji mix. Basenji is considered the second stupidest dog breed in the world. My dog, Max knows more than a dozen of commands. Their being heel, stop, stay, leave it, drop, give, down and of course sit. And more others, but roll over isn't one of them. He knows the left and right and some more. I walk him off the leash every morning, against the city rules. The police doesn't care, they greet him. Max charges for cats and bunnies, but never attacks them. He will kill squirrels though, if they come too close and be too arrogant. He is always friendly with people and wags his tail with meeting them. He has some dog friends at the neighborhood. Good guard dog. Not even a cat goes in our front yard before he warns us. The best dog I've ever had! Now in his golden age, about 11 years old. We rescued him when he was about 2 years old.
I don't know which dog I would prefer. This or an American sentinel. The borz is probably more intelligent, but the american sentinel is probably better at hunting (they excel at pig hunting)
In general, I feel like Borz Hund is a more agile yet compact body. Shorter limbs add to the agility. Also, a Bors Hund seems to come off as a breed that can be easier trained than Doberman. Dobermans have a lot of health issues. I've had a Doberman pass at 4.
Thats true lot of working breeds its not good in performance because of weight and etc i have gsd longhaired and i trained him by himself obedience and lot of difrence to protect me and i was in vet and vet said oh he must put on weight 5 kg because should be 45 kg not 40 kg but when he put on weight he was slower snd lot of different problems and i prefer if he its 42 kg max like more
Show a Borz Hund in obedience or protection sports competition. You won't fand any let alone one that's titled. You'll see loads of titled Dobies. Borz Hund is just a mutt.
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Anneka i know exactly which breed of dogs he use to make borz dog because i was on him page and then i find borz dog with light colour but browns spots like a rottweiler and he have for sale rotteailer and then was for sale different breeds of dogs and i know exactly which dogs he used to make borz dog and definitely was pitbull or american bullies because of short head and head skull its pitbulls or stafirdshire terrier and then rest dogs i know because he have a digs who has to certain breed of dogs spots and then for sale
Rather have a European Dobie hands down not some Johnny-come-lately boutique breed with more questions than answers! Moreover, Dobermans are fifth smartest dog breed and learn quickly and are extremely intuitive to social and human emotions! I don’t care if the dog has more stature and weighs a hundred pounds cause that added size is a plus. Moreover, for a hundred pound dog, it runs incredibly fast. Also, it’s still possess a high working drive which as an active individual myself, I definitely appreciate. Euro Dobies all the way! This video is laughable!
Great looking dog. Happy to see newer breeds. It's sad to see what has been done to breeds that have been around a while.
Thoroughly enjoyed this episode comparing older to recent guarding/protection breeds. Here are some other not so recent but certainly not old breeds used for similar purposes. 1. Donovan Pinscher. 2. Lakota Mastino. Both worthy of doing episodes on !!
Have had 3 Dobies. None had issues with swimming, and were naturals, not trained. That being said, this is an interesting new breed.
My wife and I have two and one loves water and the other doesn't mind it. But she isn't really into it. We have a small river that runs through our property (517 acres). And if I can't find Charlie, I always go to the river. We own the river rights. So every so often we get whisky companies who pay to use our water....it's the limestone water that's purported to be the best. I never knew this, but we'll take the money and a few cases of excellent whiskey. I bring this up, because Charlie will go and guard them while they take the water. Abby, she won't leave my side. Both are red nose dobies and they are our 6&7th dobies. It's all we've owned and never lost a dog to DCM or thyroid disease. Garratt Dobermans in Dallas TX breeds excellent pups does DNA testing, etc. But his dobies are breed for temperment....ours still trained well and fine guarding. Just need them to alert us. Then I'll take over. We're in a rural area on alot of land. So it's more like coyotes issues.
5 generations deep in the program with the oldest dog being 7 years old. This is not good and looks like a rushed program. I’d like to see an entire litter (5th gen) side by side so as to see the potential throw backs that this speed of program may bring. The type clearly isn’t locked it which means that temp is as unpredictable as type.
I appreciate how this video detailed and comparison! The focus on the health and performance of the Borz Hund is inspiring-especially when addressing hereditary diseases. It's fascinating to see how selective breeding can prioritize functionality over looks
If the genetic poll is small diseases are a big thing.
You can't "compare" a breed that's been around for well over a hundred years, with a dog that is no older than 7 years at best. The creator can say whatever he wants, we don't even know what breeds have gone into the Borz Hund, so far. This is a good looking dog that's still being created. It's not a finished product, so a comparison is not right to do at this point. The biggest problem with most breeds, especially working breeds, is too much popularity. The original Dobermans didn't have many of the issues that the modern dog does, same for the German Shepherd Dog. IF the Borz Hund ever got as popular as the Doberman or GSD, it would more than likely have many more issues than are being reported by the creator right now. On top of that, many health issues don't show up until after 7 years, the oldest dog is only 7 years old. This is another reason a comparison cannot be done accurately.
I have to get a Burz Hund! Never seen one live but I love everything I see about them.
Doberman, malinos and pit bull
Hello Anneka,thanks for another amazing video.Very beautiful dog🐾🐾🐾❤️
Fascinating new breed, founded on health and fitness for purpose. Very intrigued. Thanks for the great informative episode.
I absolutely LOVE Dobermanns. Since I was a young child I have met many amazing dobermans with stable and goofy personalities while also protective. Unfortunately, within the past 2 years my mom (who also loves Dobermanns) has been lunged at by one after being invited to pet it by the owners in a very public space....then recently another couple invited her to pet their doberman and my mom trusted them and went to pet the dog who appeared friendly and it snapped and it almost took her hand off. Both owners said "oh my gosh he's never done this before....." I love these dogs but many people who have them lately, consider them unstable now and don't do proper training with them. I'm sad to see one of my favorite breed being ruined. I hope the European line stays healthy and they can regain their health.
Same, it's so sad when people don't do the proper work with such an awesome breed and when breeders breed for LOOKS and not for personality and health.
What a gorgeous dog. I have a Rhodesian Ridgeback boy, I would love to have a Borz Hund as well, but I’m too old now. 😥
I have a female Ridgeback, almost 10 years old and still vibrant ❤
Never heard of this borz hound before but it looks good
Funny, in US are Standard poodles often compared to dobrmans as great family dog with great temperament. Which sounds kind of crazy because in Europe they are still good working dog.
Knowing all illnesses of breed is based on years of testing generation after generation. Also I would love to see reason for breeding another and another and another new guarding working breed.
I haven't even viewed the video. And I can tell you, which breed is better. DOBERMAN'S. But then I'm extremely partial with Dobies. It's the only breed my wife and I have ever owned. Currently we have two red nose Dobies (Abby & Charlie). It's 45 degrees in TN and Abby the Doberman, is sitting outside on our backyard deck, guarding. She is more than welcomed to come inside the house. But she loves being outside....I put a blankey on her too. CHarlie is sitting next to me as I write this. The boy never leaves my side. Doberman's are loving, loyal, curious, gentle, highly trainable, super intelligent and smart.
Doberman 🔥🔥🔥😍.... Awesome mam
A girlfriend years ago had a cousin who had a red Doberman that was 175 lbs. He was huge but friendly and rather clumsy and cumbersome and was winded quite quickly !
Very informative video. Can you make a video on the American Mastiff? It was developed by crossing an English Mastiff with a Kangal. According to the breeder, the goal was to develop a breed that resembled an English Mastiff but with fewer health issues and a dryer mouth.
Where and how do I get information on a Borzhund?
2:35 I assume that with "5 Generations in" he means they are in the F5 Generation. In the following sentence, he says "We are about 8 years in". That means that the average breeding age of his females was just 1,6 years. Many working dog clubs ban bitches of less than 3 years from breeding - out of ethical reasons as well as because in working breeds and large breeds, a dog's full ability often show only at about the 2 or 3 years old. To me it seems the Borzhund breeder is more breeding for looks than working abilities.
I agree, I also think that having a secret pedigree is not serious practice. If he want to call it a working breed, then what are the merits of the dogs he is breeding on? Any prizes? Any tests? IGP? Almost any dog can do bite work as a hobby.
Wolves and kangals have long snouts and much higher bite force than any dog. It's a myth to suggest that long snouts have weaker bite force. It's actually according to the size of the head that gives you a better picture of bite force.
Airedale terrier, please 😢
Personally I think it is better for a protection dog to keep biting different spots but it is better for police work or protection sports for a dog to bite and hold.
Very interesting video Anneka! Both breed are beautiful but it's a shame that the dobermann has more health problems in recent years. Breeders should worry about the health of the dogs in addition to physical appearance! Thank you very much Anneka,have nice time!🙏😍🫶
Questions guys im a female i have a small dog now female. What do you recommend a male or female protection breed?
Borez hund looks like pit bull dressing up for dobermans job
You should cover the pshdar dog also known as the kurdish mastiff
Ill be on that long list soon.
Two important criteria that were not addressed here:
1) tendency to drool
2) Ability to live outdoors/adaptability to different climates
Or you can create your own secret mutt, breed on it and call it a better breed 🤷♂
Do you not know what a breed is
@@ZanderTurner-wb8ko yes, I wrote my comment with sarcasm.
My original comment is what they have done with the "Borz Hund".
@@daniel931016 this video was one sided they said dobs not good swimming
but did not show borz hund swimming ect
Doberman, Amataff, black lab are the main breeds in this dog
@@MaiaChaka-r3f black lab?? why do you guess that?
His dogs are clearly mixed with dobermans...
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Love all dogs. But more Chihuahuas please. ;)
Breeding for size- yes! A lot of breeds are so oversized 😢
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Does the Borz' ears are naturally pointy?
Nope
Please mading video about german shepherd protection/guard k9 dog!
His oldest cross is just about reaching the age that some inherited problems might start to show up.
How can I buy a borz hund?
Silly question, considering you know exactly whats what with the Borz Hund! No Doberman will ever match up
Hahaha hahaha hahaha
On s'en fiche de la force, le doberman est un meilleure chien à tous les niveaux
I think doberman is better than borz hund
Darn tootin❤
The Dob.
What breeds went into the Borz Hund?
Super mut.
good coment
My lady I will take my giant schnauzer are there any other dog breed for personal protection
Wow beautiful the door I like it coming for me Washington DC
It’s a damn shame what people are doing to our working dogs. 30 years ago you could take just about anyone’s German shepherd and make them an excellent protection dog. Try that today.
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Borzhund looks like he has some pit bull in him
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The borz hound is a lot bigger than the doberman but I do like both dogs
The Borz Hund most likely contains Dobermann but he doesn't want to say that because he doesn't want other breeders to do a better job than him on developing this mutt.
For protection propuse natural tail will more strong and agility ✅
I have a rescued Basenji mix. Basenji is considered the second stupidest dog breed in the world. My dog, Max knows more than a dozen of commands. Their being heel, stop, stay, leave it, drop, give, down and of course sit. And more others, but roll over isn't one of them. He knows the left and right and some more.
I walk him off the leash every morning, against the city rules. The police doesn't care, they greet him. Max charges for cats and bunnies, but never attacks them. He will kill squirrels though, if they come too close and be too arrogant. He is always friendly with people and wags his tail with meeting them. He has some dog friends at the neighborhood.
Good guard dog. Not even a cat goes in our front yard before he warns us.
The best dog I've ever had! Now in his golden age, about 11 years old. We rescued him when he was about 2 years old.
I don't know which dog I would prefer. This or an American sentinel. The borz is probably more intelligent, but the american sentinel is probably better at hunting (they excel at pig hunting)
Many of the traits and characteristics of the Borz Hund are presumed but not measured or still unknown. Let's be fair.
In general, I feel like Borz Hund is a more agile yet compact body. Shorter limbs add to the agility. Also, a Bors Hund seems to come off as a breed that can be easier trained than Doberman. Dobermans have a lot of health issues. I've had a Doberman pass at 4.
Thats true lot of working breeds its not good in performance because of weight and etc i have gsd longhaired and i trained him by himself obedience and lot of difrence to protect me and i was in vet and vet said oh he must put on weight 5 kg because should be 45 kg not 40 kg but when he put on weight he was slower snd lot of different problems and i prefer if he its 42 kg max like more
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Show a Borz Hund in obedience or protection sports competition. You won't fand any let alone one that's titled. You'll see loads of titled Dobies. Borz Hund is just a mutt.
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German dog anyday over muhammed back yard breading.
That Sayed this dog is beautiful, and I'll love to see if have success
Anneka i know exactly which breed of dogs he use to make borz dog because i was on him page and then i find borz dog with light colour but browns spots like a rottweiler and he have for sale rotteailer and then was for sale different breeds of dogs and i know exactly which dogs he used to make borz dog and definitely was pitbull or american bullies because of short head and head skull its pitbulls or stafirdshire terrier and then rest dogs i know because he have a digs who has to certain breed of dogs spots and then for sale
This guy is super biased lol it’s all about the dog and training
video seemed one sided to the borz hund
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Biased.
I can't stand the British accent !.
There should be a warning label, so people would know what to expect !
I know I am not the only one !.
Thoes are cliped ears arnt they? :( Cant we just breed them with upright ears?? Come on dog breeders do some work.
Rather have a European Dobie hands down not some Johnny-come-lately boutique breed with more questions than answers! Moreover, Dobermans are fifth smartest dog breed and learn quickly and are extremely intuitive to social and human emotions! I don’t care if the dog has more stature and weighs a hundred pounds cause that added size is a plus. Moreover, for a hundred pound dog, it runs incredibly fast. Also, it’s still possess a high working drive which as an active individual myself, I definitely appreciate. Euro Dobies all the way! This video is laughable!
El Doberman es elegancia pura...
Another Mutt breeder trying to cash in
Agreed.