This is not only a prime example of sheer greed but just as bad is the damage it will do to other genuine charities who will have lost the trust of some of their donors . His daughter and her husband are an utter disgrace and for me they have been treated leniently while deserving every bit of criticism they receive.
@@stevie-c1471 The original commenter said "I won't donate just to pay the CEO's salary". I was pointing out that it is in fact reasonable for part of any donation made to a charity to go towards paying the charity's staff.
She wanted £150k as a charity director because that's the going rate for one in the UK. It's why I only give money to small local charities. I don't want my donation going to the salary of some " captain of industry" brought in to run a charity.
Here in Sweden I remember the head of the Red Cross was picking up a huge salary. Why do they need to pay, isn’t there any retired top manager that wants to show some goodwill late in life after building a fortune. Isn’t there a single one that can do that for two years and then pass it on to the next one? Wouldn’t that be nice in the UK too.
@@bokhans: In the Netherlands the blood bank chariry hired some doctor as head for more than 200k euro per year. There was outrage about that... But it doesn't really change and happens everywhere.
If the books were marketed as in support of the Sir Tom Moore Foundation, but no money went to it, surely that is at least obtaining money by deception? It can’t be right that his daughter is allowed to walk away with £1.5 million.
Not even the BIg Issue. In my area it's foreign dressed eastern European women, and I know the culture they come from. Who are dropped off outside local shops. I'm not supporting them in this activity...not one penny.
By removing charitable status the crown can tax the funds as income. By prosecuting for fraud or lesser crimes, the public can seize the funds, yes. Successful prosecution could lead to jail for fraud i suppose but unlikely. That's why the allegations from the report that they have damaged trust in charities is so important.
If you want to support a charity, donate to a small local one. Your local animal rescue etc. The money goes where its supposed to. Never donate to a charity that has a CEO.
We have just checked what the CEOs are taking in wages have cancelled ALL charities and instead supporting local voluntary charities Nd local food banks homeless etc All the big charities not only CEOs and advertising. Best to give locally and from the heart
I would have no issue with his family benefitting from the proceeds of his book after his death if it wasn't for the fact that it was marketed as a book that would be raising money for his charity and they've kept all of the proceeds for themselves. Not to even offer a contribution to charity in the face of all this scrutiny shows how brazen they are.
They should both be locked up, fleeced the general public out of £1.4 million, money that should have gone to hospitals and hospices instead went to their own pool and spa
Cannot help but wish we held corporations to the same level of scrutiny that we have held this family. 3 years! Wow. I’ve seen corrupt corporations skate by with not even a look at what they are doing.
Hannah should reach out to the resources available to her to help her with her issues and not rely on UA-cam to attempt to ban negative comments on her disgraceful behaviour
No .And Captain Tom was honourd by Late Queen Elisabeth II To Captain Sir Tom Moore. His efforts during corona time. This really becomes a sad story. Good to see that he still walkes around. Hart warming. Keep up the appearenses Sir Captain T.Moore.
This is a sign of our times.. People have no morals, our politicians have no morals and greed is king. Charities themselves are no longer really ethical these days either, the pay the top people get is outrageous
I thought when seeing her, particularly when she became more assertive in media appearances, ‘she has the look of Janice from The Sopranos’, the grasping sister of mob boss Tony. What also sticks in the craw are the ‘disgusted’ headlines by the UK tabloids, where were they and their claims of seekers of truth and investigation? Imagine if anyone had, really prior to the whole spa issue, raised any concerns. Especially if anyone or organization that they don’t like did so (which is most of them), they would have vilified and got death threats from the deranged who believe these rags.
I worked in the charity sector for more than 20y, lastly as a non-financial auditor, boards snd trustees do make mistakes as the lady says, it would have been "cleaner" if the family had had as little hands on involvement as possible. In terms of obscenely high salaries, in my experience there were people like myself, who accepted a lower salary to work in the charity sector, when high numbers of ex-local authority officers and ex-civil servants became involved huge amounts of empire building went on, several layers of additional management were created and then the cronyism began.
He wrote the books. Knew what was what, and was happy for the money from them to go to the family, as a kind of spin-off of his charity efforts, and his capturing the zeitgeist. He'd have seen and signed the contracts - by all accounts, he was compos mentis. That's a plausible account, I think. Now, had they just made the single donation of his charity monies raised, and not created the Foundation, they could have quietly pocketed the book money. People without a charitable bone in their bodies suddenly creating a charity - yeah right!
1.4 million, sweet deal. You have to give it to the Ingram Moores, they played a blinder. I'm sure they'll enjoy that money in glorious isolation as nobody will want anything to do with them in the future. They've also tarnished the futures of their children and grandchildren. But I'm sure it was all worth it.
His books had nothing to do wirh his efforts to raise money by walking all those miles. He became a celebrity but was a war hero and had a choice of where the money was going for the books separate from his walking. Don't be so greedy. He was a perfect gentleman don't involve his name and family in a scandal now when he is no longer around to defend him self.
I-think sir captain Tom would like his family to take a little money.maybe start looking at how much the other charity bosses are taking in salary up-to £200000 for the major hight street ones and the facts that uptp 97 % doesn’t go to charity
I wonder how many people dismiss us old cynics who saw what this was from the beginning. Not gloating in my cynicism as I have experience from experience on human nature. One of the other things might upset everyone is old Tom was probably involved in this. Afterall the apple doesnt fall too far from the tree. But I might just be being cynical again.
No she's not a typical Brit as you comment, she's a type of brit that fortunately is rare. Greed got the better of her and her husband. They thought they could shaft the donors
The man raised 40M, I think his family should get something. 1M from a book deal seems fair. Would you not have done the same? Prob not 😂, I’m sure the perpetually enraged would have better morals.
I believe the NHS received £39 million for Capt Tom‘s effort? That’s a tidy Sum and well done, wherever that went is anybody’s guess. The family wrote a book on the efforts of them and Capt Tom, a family history, a family life. Therefore the family has every right to claim the money from the Books. Like Captain Tom, I would want to see my family honoured and protected by mine and their efforts. The book like any book went for sale and people bought the book obviously they wanted to read their story. Their are countless allegations of ministers lining their pockets during the Covid fiasco and that was taxpayers money. 😂
Thieves, like this greedy stuck up family should all be in jail with their property forfeited. Total disgrace. I will not be giving to any charities in the future; all trust gone. Very pretentious with the blue blazer, grey flannels, medals, publicity seekers for their own gain. What a nerve ! ☹️
Both she n her husband are scamming,lieing,greedy,narsacistic,theves, she has sullied the name of her daddy, a wee man who only wanted to do a wee bita good, now when anyone mentions capt tom, the first thought springs to mind is, greed,lies,n a big scam, n personality I find that so very very sad😢
This was not a mistake, this was deliberate, wake up people
... you know from inside of course.
😂😂 I know I donated nothing ,his walk didn't trap my heart ,people are sheep
This is not only a prime example of sheer greed but just as bad is the damage it will do to other genuine charities who will have lost the trust of some of their donors .
His daughter and her husband are an utter disgrace and for me they have been treated leniently while deserving every bit of criticism they receive.
Like the RNLI
I'm fed up with CEOs of charities making incredibly high pay. I won't donate just to pay CEO salary.
Best donate to "The Big Issue". At least you know where it is going.
I agree that they shouldn't receive an 'incredibly high' salary, but the people running charities still need remuneration for their time, don't they?
@@patavinity1262Yes. Hence why they said "incredibly high", rather than "any".
@@stevie-c1471 The original commenter said "I won't donate just to pay the CEO's salary". I was pointing out that it is in fact reasonable for part of any donation made to a charity to go towards paying the charity's staff.
She wanted £150k as a charity director because that's the going rate for one in the UK. It's why I only give money to small local charities. I don't want my donation going to the salary of some " captain of industry" brought in to run a charity.
Here in Sweden I remember the head of the Red Cross was picking up a huge salary. Why do they need to pay, isn’t there any retired top manager that wants to show some goodwill late in life after building a fortune. Isn’t there a single one that can do that for two years and then pass it on to the next one?
Wouldn’t that be nice in the UK too.
@@bokhans: In the Netherlands the blood bank chariry hired some doctor as head for more than 200k euro per year. There was outrage about that... But it doesn't really change and happens everywhere.
No "innocent mistakes" here. What a disgrace and why many don't trust charities.
Disgusting 🤬
The Ingram Moore's should be forced to return the money!
i was suspicious at the time - the whole thing was pathetic exlpoitation
Agree.....always thought the woman was iffy...she was always there, in every pic etc
If the books were marketed as in support of the Sir Tom Moore Foundation, but no money went to it, surely that is at least obtaining money by deception? It can’t be right that his daughter is allowed to walk away with £1.5 million.
Shame on her!
Greedy people.Didnt like any of this from the beginning.
I stopped giving to charities because I don't trust it's getting to the causes. With thousands going to some Chief Execs in salaries.
Just research your charities.
Best donate to "The Big Issue". At least you know where it is going.
Not even the BIg Issue. In my area it's foreign dressed eastern European women, and I know the culture they come from. Who are dropped off outside local shops. I'm not supporting them in this activity...not one penny.
I want my £50 back.
They probably bought a bottle of wine with your £50. Thieves!
It’s call donating. You assumed all the risks when you parted your money away.
A bottle of Champagne 🍾
Can they claw back the money? Can they jail them?
By removing charitable status the crown can tax the funds as income. By prosecuting for fraud or lesser crimes, the public can seize the funds, yes. Successful prosecution could lead to jail for fraud i suppose but unlikely. That's why the allegations from the report that they have damaged trust in charities is so important.
What it will mean is such actions in future will have us not trusting such people.
have a day off these people have plenty money it is shear greed
It looks like a fraud, duck.
Is there no consequences?...if a crime is committed?
They knew exactly what they were doing. Right from the moment they got their father to reinact the burma death march from his nursing home garden.
it was not a nutsing home it was his/hannah home which tells you they were well off
That's funny
Charity begins at home.
Their home is exactly where the money went
If you want to support a charity, donate to a small local one. Your local animal rescue etc. The money goes where its supposed to. Never donate to a charity that has a CEO.
We have just checked what the CEOs are taking in wages have cancelled ALL charities and instead supporting local voluntary charities Nd local food banks homeless etc All the big charities not only CEOs and advertising. Best to give locally and from the heart
Captain Tom's legacy has been sadly tarnished by the greedy actions of his daughter.
She's definitely a crook!...anyone else would have to repay their ill gotten gains!
I would have no issue with his family benefitting from the proceeds of his book after his death if it wasn't for the fact that it was marketed as a book that would be raising money for his charity and they've kept all of the proceeds for themselves. Not to even offer a contribution to charity in the face of all this scrutiny shows how brazen they are.
Is she related to Michelle Mone??
3 years,3years,why did this take sooo long,pathetic😮
All charitys are a scam
No they're not. Btw Einstein, learn to spell.
They should both be locked up, fleeced the general public out of £1.4 million, money that should have gone to hospitals and hospices instead went to their own pool and spa
Disgraceful, I want my donation back.
Just like the royal family 😂
Just been announced how much the taxpayer paid for Charlie's coronation...........
........£72M.
Cannot help but wish we held corporations to the same level of scrutiny that we have held this family. 3 years! Wow. I’ve seen corrupt corporations skate by with not even a look at what they are doing.
I love the fact that they went on to build a spa, CHAVS.
Hannah should reach out to the resources available to her to help her with her issues and not rely on UA-cam to attempt to ban negative comments on her disgraceful behaviour
No .And Captain Tom was honourd by Late Queen Elisabeth II To Captain Sir Tom Moore. His efforts during corona time. This really becomes a sad story. Good to see that he still walkes around. Hart warming. Keep up the appearenses Sir Captain T.Moore.
Ps thats an order 😂🎉 😘
He died.😢.im shocked.
NO WORSE GREED ,WHEN IT COMES TO FAMILY
This is a sign of our times.. People have no morals, our politicians have no morals and greed is king. Charities themselves are no longer really ethical these days either, the pay the top people get is outrageous
Will they be done for fraud? never liked the look of em thank god Capt Tom didn’t know
I thought when seeing her, particularly when she became more assertive in media appearances, ‘she has the look of Janice from The Sopranos’, the grasping sister of mob boss Tony.
What also sticks in the craw are the ‘disgusted’ headlines by the UK tabloids, where were they and their claims of seekers of truth and investigation?
Imagine if anyone had, really prior to the whole spa issue, raised any concerns.
Especially if anyone or organization that they don’t like did so (which is most of them), they would have vilified and got death threats from the deranged who believe these rags.
How Very Sad 😔
I worked in the charity sector for more than 20y, lastly as a non-financial auditor, boards snd trustees do make mistakes as the lady says, it would have been "cleaner" if the family had had as little hands on involvement as possible. In terms of obscenely high salaries, in my experience there were people like myself, who accepted a lower salary to work in the charity sector, when high numbers of ex-local authority officers and ex-civil servants became involved huge amounts of empire building went on, several layers of additional management were created and then the cronyism began.
Cap'n Tom was in on it. For sure.
because?
You disgust me.
He wrote the books. Knew what was what, and was happy for the money from them to go to the family, as a kind of spin-off of his charity efforts, and his capturing the zeitgeist. He'd have seen and signed the contracts - by all accounts, he was compos mentis. That's a plausible account, I think.
Now, had they just made the single donation of his charity monies raised, and not created the Foundation, they could have quietly pocketed the book money. People without a charitable bone in their bodies suddenly creating a charity - yeah right!
Given it’s been 2 hours, and given the postmaster scandal, why would people not wait longer before personally casting unequivocal judgment?
Oh dear oh dear
1.4 million, sweet deal. You have to give it to the Ingram Moores, they played a blinder. I'm sure they'll enjoy that money in glorious isolation as nobody will want anything to do with them in the future. They've also tarnished the futures of their children and grandchildren. But I'm sure it was all worth it.
I never donate money to charities because by the time everyone has taken hardly any money goes where it’s supposed to go
His books had nothing to do wirh his efforts to raise money by walking all those miles. He became a celebrity but was a war hero and had a choice of where the money was going for the books separate from his walking. Don't be so greedy. He was a perfect gentleman don't involve his name and family in a scandal now when he is no longer around to defend him self.
"I don't see a problem." - Paula Vennels
And her best friend Justin Welby!
Scammers
& she still couldn't sort her gnashers out.
Same here,Id be afraid Bill gates would end up with anthing to do with health charities.
Greed…
I-think sir captain Tom would like his family to take a little money.maybe start looking at how much the other charity bosses are taking in salary up-to £200000 for the major hight street ones and the facts that uptp 97 % doesn’t go to charity
I wonder how many people dismiss us old cynics who saw what this was from the beginning. Not gloating in my cynicism as I have experience from experience on human nature. One of the other things might upset everyone is old Tom was probably involved in this. Afterall the apple doesnt fall too far from the tree. But I might just be being cynical again.
Captain Tom's daughter, typical Brit who only thinks of themselves and money!!
Thank you for your contributions to our discussion, Ivan.
No she's not a typical Brit as you comment, she's a type of brit that fortunately is rare. Greed got the better of her and her husband. They thought they could shaft the donors
Captain tom is clearly complicit he should be postumousley court-martialed.
Here is 1.5 Million for you Labour Party!
The man raised 40M, I think his family should get something. 1M from a book deal seems fair. Would you not have done the same?
Prob not 😂, I’m sure the perpetually enraged would have better morals.
You're hilarious!🙄probs an Ingram moore!
@@Swansong321😂
So what? She is the daughter. Its a family business.
It was a charity not a family business!!
It was a charity idiot !
I believe the NHS received £39 million for Capt Tom‘s effort? That’s a tidy Sum and well done, wherever that went is anybody’s guess. The family wrote a book on the efforts of them and Capt Tom, a family history, a family life. Therefore the family has every right to claim the money from the Books. Like Captain Tom, I would want to see my family honoured and protected by mine and their efforts. The book like any book went for sale and people bought the book obviously they wanted to read their story.
Their are countless allegations of ministers lining their pockets during the Covid fiasco and that was taxpayers money. 😂
So clearly your related ? They are DISGRACEFUL and so you for backing them , honestly what kind of people are you .urghh !
So what only for her father no charity would of got 39million
The charity ceo's, are also living the high life on obscene salaries, they are running a racket.
Thieves, like this greedy stuck up family should all be in jail with their property forfeited. Total disgrace. I will not be giving to any charities in the future; all trust gone. Very pretentious with the blue blazer, grey flannels, medals, publicity seekers for their own gain. What a nerve ! ☹️
Both she n her husband are scamming,lieing,greedy,narsacistic,theves, she has sullied the name of her daddy, a wee man who only wanted to do a wee bita good, now when anyone mentions capt tom, the first thought springs to mind is, greed,lies,n a big scam, n personality I find that so very very sad😢