My fiancé is cutting off the mutual friend who introduced us because she is treating me like dirt and clearly has feelings for him. It's important to have a united front and defend your partner.
@OKAYOKAY420 she always said she never wanted him but that he was "like a brother" to her. I'm pretty sure she wanted to be his not-girlfriend girlfriend and once she heard we were getting engaged is when she flipped out on me lol. People are dumb.
@Theimmure so in the year since he and I became an official couple, she was acting off and being very cold towards me the longer we were together. I chalked it up to her having trouble adjusting to us being together since she and I were best friends for 10+ years, and she'd worked with him 6+ years. But she started acting normal again so I figured, okay, things are okay again...I then messaged her one day (about a month ago) that I knew my boyfriend was looking for a ring for me and that I was excited about him proposing to me. She then left a bunch of our mutual group chats and was all "we need to talk". Ended our friendship but wouldn't admit it was due to jealousy.
@@PrincessQ-fj9ly But he won't because he knows bsf won't leave him no matter what, so he will continue to look for soneone he can gaslight into accepting the abuse from his bsf/AP.
The friend doesn't actually want him, she just wants to keep him as one of those beta-orbiters. If you pay attention, he's a spineless loser, which isn't an attractive trait but makes for a good simp.
Dropped the girl I first thought I was going to marry because she wouldn’t stand up to her friend who was always talking crap about me for no apparent reason. Married the girl who never hesitated to defend me, and still happily married to this day.
Good that OP kicked this weak ex to the curb since he was unwilling to call his friend out on her mistreatment of his fiance. He's not relationship material and values his friend's feelings more than his former fiance.
Here's hoping OP finds a better guy who has a shiny titanium spine! And that pathetic pansy will NEVER have any real relationship with that skank friend around, and It'll be all his fault!
yup, if he doesn't "see any problem" or decides that it's "all her problem," then he's not going to be there for her, period. This "friend" is going to get between him and every relationship he has until he finally either grows up or caves in and marries her.
He probably likes the attention and know that no matter what this "pick me" will always be a backup plan so he can't get rid of her. Pretty obvious for me he is spineless and he addmited that he knows she treats op like garbage but don't care enough, boyfriend of the year
I'll never understand these men who keep around their 'side piece bestie'. If you want your best friend, then go be with her. Stop dating other women. If you don’t want her, then stop letting her orbit and get rid of her. The atrention isn’t worth ruining every relationship you could potentially have.
"If you want your best friend, then go be with her. " That choice should not be given. If the situation exists like that there is no "if", it's "we're done".
@@davidransom4476 I mean you're right, but that's why I also said 'stop dating other women'. This problem comes up BECAUSE these men date other women and keep their pick me best female friend around as a back up. When they should just be with her and leave other people out of it.
He probably doesn't think she's wife material, just likes the ego boost and wants her to be his emergency back-up fleshlight. And some people don't to be "together" together, because the relationship is only fun if they're sneaking around behind their partners' backs (see: my aunt's ex-husband and his longterm mistress).
Hilarious cuz generally women with male friends...the problem male or female is not just setting a boundary with your partner as far as people wanting to be more than friends being kept around.
Story 1: I wonder how long it’s going to take that spineless coward to realize that he is the problem for keeping that pick me “friend” around. Either just date her, set clear boundaries with her, or better yet drop her as a friend because she hasn’t respected a single relationship he has had.
Oh. He knows! That's why he keeps shutting the conversation down, because he doesn't want to discuss the hard questions. My XH was the same way. He came from a family that didn't talk out hard times. And he refused therapy. It was infuriating and heart breaking.
I think he enjoys her attention and the trying to get his attention. I konw some people who keep these types of simps near so their partner would feel the pressure to keep up. It's the devide and conquer practice, a control move. The partner would feel threatened and would do anything to keep the relationship they have been working on. And the friend would get the false hope that they are no 1 and always will be because "the buddies" or "besties". Honestly it is a disgusting game to play.
haha im almost 90% sure he tried with BFF and and didn't work out or she kept him at arm's length just in the twilight zone between friendzone and dateable. Girl (BFF) needs a backup plan if she cant find anything better, so that worked well. His just a spineless amoeba, the idiot will have a lovely pikachu face once BFF gets the hots for another guy (who most likely will ask wtf is wrong with the simp) and then she'll drop him like a hot potato.
@@franciebelcher4594 the part that got me was when he said what if we break up normally my head would go ,he means he drop a good friend for something that was temporary but instead my first thought was him saying” what if we break up I won’t have someone to get with if she is not around”it feels like he can be ready to settle down and either he nows there is a lot wrong with him and people will eventually find out what that is and leave but he will have BFF as a back up or if he gets old and has not found anyone that put up with nonsense he can get with BFF
Did she really break up??? That was the weirdest breakup in history. She never actually said she DID breakup just that it was a for sure thing and isn't even an issue. No real response about what he said or did. It makes me wonder if she really did break up with him. It seems as if she, not him, is the one with confrontation issues.
@@Sparky0627 But yet, there was no actual example of how she did it, what was said, what his response was, etc. She basically just said, "it was dead" but without actually saying she broke up with him. They are still living together and going away on trips with each other. Does that really sound like "it is dead" to you???
@@dianasmith8248 Ya, we got that, but... DID SHE REALLY??? How do you continue to live with him as well as do things and go places with him when you are "Broken Up"??? I think she just told Reddit what Reddit wanted to hear.
So she totally wants to be OP in the first story. She's a decent person when she's using words like "one of the most important days of HIS life" she's not out for a wedding, she wants to spend her life with him. The friend WAAAYYY too obviously wants him romantically. Especially from what we learn in the comments. I haven't even gotten to the update yet. Edit: Fiance and girl bff are totes f'ing. I know that the guy isn't gonna really be all that broken up over them, breaking up.
Story 1: Fiance came right out and said it. He's keeping her around as Plan B (What if we break up?). Should have ended it totally with him the second he said that. Now let everyone know why immediately, before HE has a chance to spin why there's a breakup. The fiance was essentially cheating.
Ex is too spineless to be a husband. Also that mood booster, why didn't they fire her for cause at any point when she was actively destroying property and threatening customers and staff?
I hate people who say "there's nothing I can do" regarding someone else's behavior. You can't control how they act, but you have complete control over whether you put up with it. Putting her in her place or dropping her completely may not be happy options, but they are options. In the end, he's just a coward.
s1: NTA. why would she want to attend a wedding of someone that doesn't exist? reeks of envy. bf is obviously trying to get with him and sees OP as a temporary distraction before fiancé finally realizes bf's been right in front of him the whole time. i'm guessing it gives him an ego-boost that's more important to him than his future wife. actually, why is OP marrying him anyway? s2: that she kept her job after insulting, yelling, and screaming at customers is honestly astounding.
Story 1: I can't believe he's more dedicated to a "friend" than someone he actually shares a home with. Well, unless he's also sharing the friend's home, which may be the problem.
If she is the ideal woman, then why isn't he marrying her or someone like her. She's put a lot of energy into disrespecting her BF by disrespecting his choice in a partner. She wants him for herself and is trying to get rid of you so she can shoot her shot (probably not for the first time). She is desperate and goofey. She deserves nothing. I match energy. Period!
I slapped my own forehead multiple times during OP2's story. I've been a doormat before so I do have some pity. But I was also cringing about all those terrible decisions they made. I won't call them stupid but those choices had me writhing in pain.
Ex-fiancé /might/ not be actively pursuing the BFF, but he clearly enjoys the attention. Giant red flag. A real partner shouldn't delight in people fighting over him. He should focus on his partner's feelings, not feeding his own ego. He's being sh!tty towards both of them. Good on OP for leaving.
You can not have a healthy long-term relationship with anyone who avoids conflict at all costs. If they won't work on solving issues they are emotionally immature and not good relationship material. Things will blow up at some point.
Canceling the relationship and wedding is the way to go. If your fiance can't stand with you, there is no point in a relationship. And story 2, users can't stand it when you no longer allow yourself to be used.
Considering the best friend in story 1 was known for not liking any of his partners, it's pretty clear that the best friend wants more than a platonic relationship. He's honestly so blind for not seeing it.
It’s pretty obvious that she’s waiting in the “wings” in the hopes that he’ll fall in love with her. It’s creepy, it’s not normal. He needs to wake up. If he doesn’t drop their “friendship” you need to walk. It’s a no brainer
"she never liked any of her partners" because she was never chosen to be one. she wanted that position in his life and is petty that she never got it. it's obvious she wants him. either he's oblivious and too gullible, or he likes the attention. he claims that he puts loyalty over everything else, yet he can't give his loyalty to the one person who deserves it the most "I know the way she treats you is garbage" and yet...he's not doing anything about it? spineless. Glad that relationship is over. ex should just marry that toxic snake.
I think that friend has always been the fwb in between relationships and that's why OP 's ex got tense and didn't give a straight answer when she asked if he ever slept with the bff. Good riddance to him and his bff. They deserve each other. And that's why the "what if we break up?" He goes to that girl when he's single.
On story 2.This is advice I give to all new med students X-ray students.Any student I run into in the hospital and it applies elsewhere too. People can be friendly at your job.But no one is your friend. The moment you trust someone to be your friend instead of a coworker is when You get your neck stepped on. There are people who literally make it.Their profashion to step on other people's corpses to ascend
And not just to get ahead. There's people who get their thrills from screwing over others. They're not happy unless someone else is miserable. Those are the ones to avoid at all costs.
I had something similar happen. Very early in my relationship with my now husband, he introduced me to a couple that were very good friends of his. (He's the godfather to their adoptive children) The wife just didn't seem to take to me at all and this was likely due to their being a large age gap between me and my then bf. After the intial meetup I wasn't invited over. My husband was uncomfortable with the situation but they helped him through some difficult times so I told him it was alright to visit her and her husband without me. Flash forward roughly 14 years later and we're planning our wedding guest list. He understood that I would be uncomfortable with her there despite me not saying anything. He ended up saying he wasn't inviting them to the wedding. (He did invite his god children) It wasn't until after that, that she reached out to try and fix things. (But not apologize 🙄) At that point my husband was visiting this friend less and less to the point it was only for b-days and christmas morning. I was incredibly thankful to him for doing that. It would have made what should have been a special day, super uncomfortable. OPs fiance didn't show that level of respect at all.
How long before the ex gets with the friend because she's the only woman who hasn't left him? He doesn't realise he's sabotage his relationships by not stopping this friend. Ops, not the only one who needs therapy. Send him this post-op. Maybe if he sees people who don't know him commenting, that will knock some sense into him.
Story 1: (NTA) Uh-oh, a female best friend of a straight male fiance, ignoring a female OP. Yeah, I'm guessing that the best friend has been holding onto the OP's fiance as her plan B if not had an unrequited crush on him for years. The biggest mistake from the OP was letting this go on and planning a wedding with a man who picked his friend over her. Sometimes you have to stand up for yourself instead of letting someone else's friend walk all over you. "I don't need her respect", yeah you do, healthy boundaries and social skills are all about respect. You need to discuss breaking things off with his friend with your fiance. Also, this is a sexist comment but it's true, straight guys aren't so socially or emotionally skilled or interested in pulling the pin on anything. How your partner treats you while dating or in a relationship is how they'll treat you when married, unless they're an abuser. Has the OP asked, "If I had a straight guy friend who was all into me and ignored you would you be okay with it?" It sounds like she brought up the issue once, the fiance accumulated proof and that was that. Don't let that b**ch in any of your wedding pictures. Imagine her smiling and leaning on your new husband and his family and ignoring you and yours, maybe even stealing a dance with your new husband or stealing your seat, next to him. What will the best friend do if you plan on having kids? Ignore the baby too? Or try to make it call her "Mummy"? It's coming down to the wire, you're planning a wedding. Couple's counselling or bust. How bad was the OP's previous relationships? Why was this the healthiest? Update: The OP asked him about their future daughter being treated like this and he couldn't answer. This is his attitude, avoiding issues. "You're letting one person dictate our relationship" projecting much. So ignore the best friend, that's his new plan? Break it off and learn what a healthy relationship means and get an STD test. Most cheaters will get ultra-defensive when they even suspect that they're caught, drawing more attention to the cheating, ironically enough. She broke it off, finally.
Story 1: No, NTA, and good on OP for ending this relationship. Once OP brought up how non-confrontational her ex is, I knew this guy deserves a smack to the noggin. Even among your own friends, if they cannot show your significant other basic respect, that is not someone you want to keep around, cause that drama will forever linger over the relationship. The ex's inability to enforce boundaries is the reason why this relationship ended, and honestly, this is a lesson we can all take with us. If you cannot enforce boundaries, nobody will respect you no matter where you go.
Story 1: NTA Your fiance needs a reality check, and he needs to decide who he wants to be with. If one of my "friends," regardless of gender, were to treat my loved ones like that, then that "friend" would have to go and find new friends.
It's pretty sound advice for women to stay well away from men who are "non-confrontational". Confrontation is necessary and needed on a regular basis throughout your life, as there are lots of people who are arseholes, and a man who cannot do it, will be a pretty poor partner, no matter what their other positive traits.
Agreed. My college ex was non-confrontational and that's why he is an ex even though we were engaged. My husband is reserved but he is confrontational at the right moment. Its one of the things I love about him because we had serious challenges to overcome.
Every non-confrontational person I've met has been one of the following. 1, someone who keeps letting bad stuff happen to them and never looks to improve the situation no matter how much others try to help. 2, someone who sees mistreatment but doesn't get involved even to help their friends unless it directly affects them. 3, someone who starts drama, picks random fights, and has nasty things to say about everyone but "wants to avoid the drama."
Mood booster: OP is YTA to herself and the business. What was she thinking, getting this "friend" her job back? She's a ticking time-bomb! Doesn't say much for the business that they took her back the first time she walked out. Glad OP finally learned how to say "no".
I don't understand why this keeps having to be asked. If you even have to approach your partner about not inviting someone who disrespects you to the wedding, your marriage is 99.9999% already doomed
It's fine for people to maintain outside friendships, crucial even. The difference is you don't let a friend blatantly disrespect your partner. The bf is clearly not concerned with OP's feelings & is keeping his friend as a backup plan regardless of how rude she is to OP. Good on OP for getting out of that toxic relationship.
Main story: I'm calling it. His so called "bestie" is in love with him or wants to keep him on the shelf in some sort of power move and OP had too much self-respect to be the third angle in this BS. Dump him. After update: Shame she still has to be around this worthless jellyfish, but good for her! Mood booster: You don't have friends at work. You have coworkers. period. The OP knows exactly how to get under this leech's skin.
Story 1: the 'pick me' best friend of a fiancee. UGH. I would not want to put up with that garbage at all. I had enough of that in a dating relationship...
Whatever the best friend feels for OP's guy, it isn't love. It's possessiveness, if anything. If BF really loved him, she would want him to be happy, and would make an honest effort to get to know his partners.
I said in my fiance I will not have anybody in my life who does not respect me. Obviously you don't respect my worst you're not worth being in my life. And by the way your best friend is waiting for you to come sweep her off her feet. So even when I leave your next girlfriend is going to have the same problems cuz she's in love with you. Look you're with a man has no respect for your worth. You have two choices you can accept it or go find someone who's going to give you the love and respect you deserve. Cuz there's not a man on Earth ever let anybody disrespect the woman he truly loves.
Story 1: He for sure is doing some inappropriate with the friend,that's why he's so insistent with keeping her around and not doing anything about it. As well as getting upset for OP mentioning he was sleeping with her or something. Like he knows 100% what the issue is and that it's wrong. He just has a bigger reason to keep her on roster.
this isn't a friend issue, this is a fiancé issue. I bet the ex-fiancé is in love with the female friend, but the friend "friend zoned" him, but kept leading him on, but now that he's engaged and soon to lose her hold over him, the friend is pulling all of the stops to show that she's the ex-fiancé's #1. Once OP kicks him to the curb, and there is no danger of losing him, the girl friend will kick him back to the friendzone and he'll come crying when he can never have a solid relationship because his "friend" sabotages every relationship. I've seen plenty of women do this to men all of the time, they will keep a guy "on the hook" that they have no romantic interest in, but the guy is easily manipulated and is the perfect backup or fall guy. These types of women see other women as a threat to their friendzone scam. OP is right for leaving, she'll never win.
Unless the BF finally decides to get rid of that woman, he will never have a healthy relationship. Serves him right. I hope other women running screaming, too.
STORY 1: Glad OP left her disrespectful fiancé. It's clear he didn't value or respect OP. The fiancé was most definitely sleeping with his bff. I don't understand people like the fiancé. Why don't they just openly date their "friend" since it's very clear they value & love that person more than just a friend & more than the person they're dating. The whole " I value our friendship" is bs. Because if the friendship was truly valued, they would treat the "friend" as an actual friend instead of a secret lover.
6:12 Fiancé places loyalty above all else? Where is his loyalty to YOU, the person he's supposed to be committing to? Last I checked, your spouse is supposed to be above friends as that's who you're sharing you life with the most on almost all levels, if not all levels. And a "friend" who would covertly undermine a relationship like that is NO FRIEND AT ALL.
Story 1. At first the fiance may not have realized exactly what was going on. However, when he finally realized how his "best friend" was treating her at that party, he shoukd have put his foot down. I love my husband with my whole heart, but sometime I get frustrated with him because he can be clueless and things right in front of his face just flies over his head. My husband has/had a tight group of 6 friends. They have been friends since kindergarten. When we were dating and I first met the group, they were all warm and welcoming. All but one that is. The group is made up of 4 guys and 3 women. One of the women in the group seemed happy to meet me, but I could tell it was fake. After that first meeting I told my husband that this woman liked him, but he denied it and said there was no way because they were all like siblings. I explained to him that there is a difference between siblings and "like" siblings. We argued a bit about it then dropped it. The next 3 times we met up we had the same issue, but I didn’t mention it. At our wedding, a few months later, she got very drunk, started crying and towards the end of the wedding she started yelling at me that I ruined her life and how she was supposed to marry my husband. My husband was shocked, and my MIL (who has know this woman since she was 5), grabbed her by the arm, dragged her out. Outside the woman said some pretty racist and vile things about me (I am Puerto Rican and hubby is white) which infuriated my usual gentle and loving MIL and so my MIL slapped her. Our wedding was 30 years, and that the last time we saw her. She left the friend group as well.
2nd Story Nah, I definitely don't believe that story real... She called the cops because someone complained about getting one sauce, then on top of that stalk a customer and insulted him... Yeah, no way she doesn't get fired for all that.
Had a friend who blew up at work, throwing everything around, including prep food because she didn't get her meth fix that morning..... And didn't get fired. Trust me, sometimes the GM is spineless. Her punishment? Cleaning it up. That's it.
My ex wanted to invite me to his wedding. His now wife let me know how uncomfy she was. I got a registry item and informed him it’s a bad day for me as I had a surgery consult. He was a bit bummed but holy shit was I not gonna do that to either. He’s not important like that and I don’t own or want him. I’ve been best man in an exes wedding before, but only bcz his wife was so cool with it. I go with what makes everyone ok.
The fiancé's friend is not the issue whatsoever. The fiancé is the issue. He doesn't respect OP and she will have to deal with his dismissive indifference for the rest of her life. He knows what's happening, he knows why it's happening. He likes the attention and so is gaslighting OP to shut her up. He is treating OP like she is stupid. That is not a thoughtful and loving partner.
First story… I’m getting red flags 🚩 he’s cheating… why not the ex and the best ‘friend’ date? I wonder how he would’ve reacted if the shoe was on the other foot
Last story: I'm confused. Why would OP think the coworker is a friend when she treats customers/strangers like crap? That was a huge red flag signaling what the coworker thinks about everyone. The GM needs to grow a spine, too. You don't keep someone on staff that chases customers away. If you can't stomach sacking someone that is hurting the business, you shouldn't be a manager.
S2 - Speaking of Texas, the whole time i lived there, i drove tiny cars. VW Golf, Mitsubishi Eclipse, etc. I finally bought a big truck so I could move cross-country, and I needed the space. I will say this: I enjoyed not having to contort myself to enter or exit the vehicle. I enjoyed that I could easily drive over curbs or parking space barrier pumps. I enjoyed being able to look OVER the regular sized cars next to me, to tell if there’s oncoming traffic. I never had occasion to drive with a trailer on the tow hitch, so I can’t really comment there. (Though, we installed a tow hitch on the Mitsubishi, and crossed the country with a trailer then.). Definitely not a fan of the 12mpg fuel usage, but it was a V8. I suspect that the mid-life crisis I’m in will have me learning to ride a motorcycle. Motorcycles are much more susceptible to inclement weather, so having a vehicle I can use to go fetch the motorcycle would be helpful. There are plenty of fully rational reasons to get a truck. Still, there was a concept I learned, the “faux bubba”. Which (in the 90s) was someone who had a pickup with a CD player. Wore cowboy boots with his 3-piece suit. And would never haul anything, because it would scratch the paint INSIDE the truck bed.
Years later when he still alone because of his girl repellent of a bff, he would ask himself "Why?"... And when that time is come and his bff has another person to fancy over, giving him less and less attention, he'd realize why, regretting his spinelessness lol
I can't believe he actually said "What if we break up" to the woman he supposedly made a commitment to marry--- sure you have no clue how things will change but bro cmon
To me the saddest part of this story is, initially I was sure I heard this exact story, but it went in entirely different direction. Meaning this is not a unique scenario and that's sad.
Story 1: Wedding guest should be people who support and respect the bride/groom, and the marriage itself. This "friend" clearly doesn't fit into those. But frankly, this is a fiancee problem first and foremost. And she hasn't liked any of his partners? Well who's the common denominator there? If they aren't f'ing already, they will be.
story 1: Sounds like that the Ex is facing a cycle of broken relationships, not knowing why all the while prioritizing his friendship/codependance-ship
I want to know what kind of job I can go into where I can shout and scream at customers anr still have work to go to the next day, let alone that tantrum (not a psychotic break, a tantrum) she went on to have. Madness.
it was clear what that friends intention is. Is basically a "pick me" friend who has feelings for that person and will be a jerk to any other relationship. I can see it from a mile away, and i know several people like this.
Been there unfortunately more than 1 chick had done this with my husband while im standing there its jealously plain and simple !! She wants your man clearly!! She needs to go if she cant respect you and him to. 2:48 NOT THE A-HOLE
I don't get why there are so many stories of partners and their opposite sex best friend. I have a girl best friend & I'm pretty sure she's closer with my wife then I nowadays. OP needs to find someone that has a spine
I’m kinda going through something like this but the opposite. I’m the best friend and it’s the boyfriend that just ignores me. I have to say hello 4-5 times to even get a nod at times and he actively ignores me and all her friends. And it just rubs me the wrong way. Her friends and I feel so disrespected, but we also feel so sad for our friend. We would love to be friends or even just be in the same room with her bf but he just doesn’t like us. And even refuses to be in the same room sometimes. I understand it’s different because my situation is a platonic one and this is a romantic one but gosh I understand OP’s feelings. I love my best friend with all my heart. She’s my sister. But our relationship has struggled and went down so much thanks to her bf. I just never understand letting someone disrespect someone you love.
Sounds like she's never going to have a successful relationship. Get out of the dude's business. Why would you say hello 4-5 times? When the second one didn't get a response, I would have 100% gotten the picture. If it's an opposite sex friendship, he's not comfortable with you being around at all. He doesn't believe it's platonic because he's a man and he knows the truth; you're an orbiter. You are too close to her for her to become close with another man. I'm glad your relationship is going down, maybe she's starting to see some sense. I've never seen someone call a woman they're not related to their "sister" that didn't drop the label when she becomes single and vulnerable.
@@RisetoStrength pfft first of all I’m not a dude and I really don’t think gender should effect relationships at all but I know for some people gender is all. Friendships with different genders is possible and it’s possible to form a family relationship with someone. As for why I said hello so many times, it’s my best friend’s bf I was giving him the benefit of the doubt he didn’t hear me. It’s sad that a lot of people get so self conscious and don’t allow their partners to have relationships beyond their own.
It’s good that OP is ending thing with the ex cause I guarantee that this isn’t the first time the female best friend did something like this when the ex was in a relationship. She has feelings for him but instead of admitting them she wants the ex there as a backup option in case she can’t find anyone better. Until he actual does something with the female best friend’s behavior towards his partner he’s just going to have break up after break up till he decides to settle with her.
Story 1. If she marries him, that woman will ALWAYS be around, and SHE will be his best friend, he will confide in her, and OP will just be the ding dong wallet and child producer. That's it. Either he ditches the friend, or you cancel the wedding. And get a new guy. Been in this situation. That type of girl never backs off, if you talk to her, she will gaslight YOU.
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My fiancé is cutting off the mutual friend who introduced us because she is treating me like dirt and clearly has feelings for him. It's important to have a united front and defend your partner.
Why did she introduce you if she didn't want him to date you? Wtf lol.
@OKAYOKAY420 she always said she never wanted him but that he was "like a brother" to her. I'm pretty sure she wanted to be his not-girlfriend girlfriend and once she heard we were getting engaged is when she flipped out on me lol. People are dumb.
@@sparkiebunnie8and that right there is a big mistake. Don’t introduce people when you fancy the other person 😂 it’s not even your fault, that’s hers.
@@sparkiebunnie8Flipped out? I kinda want the tea … 🍵
@Theimmure so in the year since he and I became an official couple, she was acting off and being very cold towards me the longer we were together. I chalked it up to her having trouble adjusting to us being together since she and I were best friends for 10+ years, and she'd worked with him 6+ years. But she started acting normal again so I figured, okay, things are okay again...I then messaged her one day (about a month ago) that I knew my boyfriend was looking for a ring for me and that I was excited about him proposing to me. She then left a bunch of our mutual group chats and was all "we need to talk". Ended our friendship but wouldn't admit it was due to jealousy.
“You’re allowing one person to dictate our relationship” sadly the fiancé doesn’t realize he is the one dictating the relationship
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@@gabinathan5499 really and he’s allowing that …. He is dictating the relationship
@@dawnnunes3577 1:14 and 6:30.
Manipulator alert.
Watch how that guy won't date his BF and instead put another girl through this situation.
Yes, he's that selfish.
At this point, The two should just get together already and leave everyone else out of their weird relationship.
@@PrincessQ-fj9ly But he won't because he knows bsf won't leave him no matter what, so he will continue to look for soneone he can gaslight into accepting the abuse from his bsf/AP.
Don't forget that it was mentioned that his "friend" has done it to multiple prior girlfriends he has had too.
The friend doesn't actually want him, she just wants to keep him as one of those beta-orbiters.
If you pay attention, he's a spineless loser, which isn't an attractive trait but makes for a good simp.
Dropped the girl I first thought I was going to marry because she wouldn’t stand up to her friend who was always talking crap about me for no apparent reason. Married the girl who never hesitated to defend me, and still happily married to this day.
Good that OP kicked this weak ex to the curb since he was unwilling to call his friend out on her mistreatment of his fiance. He's not relationship material and values his friend's feelings more than his former fiance.
Here's hoping OP finds a better guy who has a shiny titanium spine! And that pathetic pansy will NEVER have any real relationship with that skank friend around, and It'll be all his fault!
yup, if he doesn't "see any problem" or decides that it's "all her problem," then he's not going to be there for her, period. This "friend" is going to get between him and every relationship he has until he finally either grows up or caves in and marries her.
Did she really end it???
That was the weirdest and most bizarre ending of a relationship out there.
He probably likes the attention and know that no matter what this "pick me" will always be a backup plan so he can't get rid of her. Pretty obvious for me he is spineless and he addmited that he knows she treats op like garbage but don't care enough, boyfriend of the year
@@thomasjoseph5876 12:28 --- Where she restates they are over. There are things they need to sort out. But it was definitely over.
I'll never understand these men who keep around their 'side piece bestie'. If you want your best friend, then go be with her. Stop dating other women. If you don’t want her, then stop letting her orbit and get rid of her. The atrention isn’t worth ruining every relationship you could potentially have.
My guess is the bestie doesn’t truly want him. Just wants to control him while being free.
"If you want your best friend, then go be with her. " That choice should not be given. If the situation exists like that there is no "if", it's "we're done".
@@davidransom4476 I mean you're right, but that's why I also said 'stop dating other women'. This problem comes up BECAUSE these men date other women and keep their pick me best female friend around as a back up. When they should just be with her and leave other people out of it.
He probably doesn't think she's wife material, just likes the ego boost and wants her to be his emergency back-up fleshlight. And some people don't to be "together" together, because the relationship is only fun if they're sneaking around behind their partners' backs (see: my aunt's ex-husband and his longterm mistress).
Hilarious cuz generally women with male friends...the problem male or female is not just setting a boundary with your partner as far as people wanting to be more than friends being kept around.
Story 1: I wonder how long it’s going to take that spineless coward to realize that he is the problem for keeping that pick me “friend” around. Either just date her, set clear boundaries with her, or better yet drop her as a friend because she hasn’t respected a single relationship he has had.
Oh. He knows! That's why he keeps shutting the conversation down, because he doesn't want to discuss the hard questions. My XH was the same way. He came from a family that didn't talk out hard times. And he refused therapy. It was infuriating and heart breaking.
I think he enjoys her attention and the trying to get his attention. I konw some people who keep these types of simps near so their partner would feel the pressure to keep up. It's the devide and conquer practice, a control move. The partner would feel threatened and would do anything to keep the relationship they have been working on. And the friend would get the false hope that they are no 1 and always will be because "the buddies" or "besties". Honestly it is a disgusting game to play.
haha im almost 90% sure he tried with BFF and and didn't work out or she kept him at arm's length just in the twilight zone between friendzone and dateable. Girl (BFF) needs a backup plan if she cant find anything better, so that worked well. His just a spineless amoeba, the idiot will have a lovely pikachu face once BFF gets the hots for another guy (who most likely will ask wtf is wrong with the simp) and then she'll drop him like a hot potato.
@@franciebelcher4594 the part that got me was when he said what if we break up normally my head would go ,he means he drop a good friend for something that was temporary but instead my first thought was him saying” what if we break up I won’t have someone to get with if she is not around”it feels like he can be ready to settle down and either he nows there is a lot wrong with him and people will eventually find out what that is and leave but he will have BFF as a back up or if he gets old and has not found anyone that put up with nonsense he can get with BFF
Are all his friends women?
"I need proof."
"So you're calling me a liar. Bye."
Done and dusted.
The bff can keep that loser, OP did well on not settling for mediocrity. He didn’t even try to defend OP, she can do so much better.
Story 1: The ex-fiance should just pursue the BFF. Why involve OP as an extra participant in this nonsense?
Because his BF is crazy. Fun for him to f*ck, ego boost to have pining after him, but not marriage material.
Such disrespect. From the fiancé and his friend.
Good that she broke up with him.
Did she really break up???
That was the weirdest breakup in history.
She never actually said she DID breakup just that it was a for sure thing and isn't even an issue.
No real response about what he said or did.
It makes me wonder if she really did break up with him. It seems as if she, not him, is the one with confrontation issues.
@@thomasjoseph5876 12:28 --- Did you not read/hear Edit2???? She definitely ended the relationship!! She said it was dead!
@@Sparky0627 But yet, there was no actual example of how she did it, what was said, what his response was, etc.
She basically just said, "it was dead" but without actually saying she broke up with him.
They are still living together and going away on trips with each other.
Does that really sound like "it is dead" to you???
@@thomasjoseph5876she said in the final edit that she broke up with him.
@@dianasmith8248 Ya, we got that, but... DID SHE REALLY???
How do you continue to live with him as well as do things and go places with him when you are "Broken Up"???
I think she just told Reddit what Reddit wanted to hear.
Story One: He's a cheater and the so-called female friends are/were his affair partners.
I hope he learns to love his "bff" because no girl is about to deal with that crap.
So she totally wants to be OP in the first story. She's a decent person when she's using words like "one of the most important days of HIS life" she's not out for a wedding, she wants to spend her life with him.
The friend WAAAYYY too obviously wants him romantically. Especially from what we learn in the comments. I haven't even gotten to the update yet.
Edit: Fiance and girl bff are totes f'ing. I know that the guy isn't gonna really be all that broken up over them, breaking up.
Story 1: Fiance came right out and said it. He's keeping her around as Plan B (What if we break up?). Should have ended it totally with him the second he said that. Now let everyone know why immediately, before HE has a chance to spin why there's a breakup. The fiance was essentially cheating.
Ex is too spineless to be a husband.
Also that mood booster, why didn't they fire her for cause at any point when she was actively destroying property and threatening customers and staff?
About the mood booster post, OP was helping the coworker (and maybe defending her?) until learned the coworker was talking trash about OP.
@@jillimi People like that tend to accelerate their behavior in tune with what they can get away with - both with "friendships" and at work.
I hate people who say "there's nothing I can do" regarding someone else's behavior. You can't control how they act, but you have complete control over whether you put up with it. Putting her in her place or dropping her completely may not be happy options, but they are options. In the end, he's just a coward.
Yes - and a coward who really, really likes the attention.
s1: NTA. why would she want to attend a wedding of someone that doesn't exist? reeks of envy. bf is obviously trying to get with him and sees OP as a temporary distraction before fiancé finally realizes bf's been right in front of him the whole time. i'm guessing it gives him an ego-boost that's more important to him than his future wife. actually, why is OP marrying him anyway?
s2: that she kept her job after insulting, yelling, and screaming at customers is honestly astounding.
Story 1: I can't believe he's more dedicated to a "friend" than someone he actually shares a home with. Well, unless he's also sharing the friend's home, which may be the problem.
If she is the ideal woman, then why isn't he marrying her or someone like her. She's put a lot of energy into disrespecting her BF by disrespecting his choice in a partner. She wants him for herself and is trying to get rid of you so she can shoot her shot (probably not for the first time). She is desperate and goofey. She deserves nothing. I match energy. Period!
I slapped my own forehead multiple times during OP2's story. I've been a doormat before so I do have some pity. But I was also cringing about all those terrible decisions they made. I won't call them stupid but those choices had me writhing in pain.
Ex-fiancé /might/ not be actively pursuing the BFF, but he clearly enjoys the attention. Giant red flag. A real partner shouldn't delight in people fighting over him. He should focus on his partner's feelings, not feeding his own ego. He's being sh!tty towards both of them. Good on OP for leaving.
And in case someone pops in to say, "But did OP really leave him?" .... 12:28 is where definitely said it was over. How could they miss that? 😮😮
Why is it okay for them to enjoy the attention in some situations but not others?
This guy better be paying her bills for OP to be considering marriage lol.
You can not have a healthy long-term relationship with anyone who avoids conflict at all costs. If they won't work on solving issues they are emotionally immature and not good relationship material. Things will blow up at some point.
Canceling the relationship and wedding is the way to go. If your fiance can't stand with you, there is no point in a relationship. And story 2, users can't stand it when you no longer allow yourself to be used.
Considering the best friend in story 1 was known for not liking any of his partners, it's pretty clear that the best friend wants more than a platonic relationship. He's honestly so blind for not seeing it.
1:14 when she told him the first time it should have been addressed.
It’s pretty obvious that she’s waiting in the “wings” in the hopes that he’ll fall in love with her. It’s creepy, it’s not normal. He needs to wake up. If he doesn’t drop their “friendship” you need to walk. It’s a no brainer
"she never liked any of her partners" because she was never chosen to be one. she wanted that position in his life and is petty that she never got it. it's obvious she wants him. either he's oblivious and too gullible, or he likes the attention. he claims that he puts loyalty over everything else, yet he can't give his loyalty to the one person who deserves it the most
"I know the way she treats you is garbage" and yet...he's not doing anything about it? spineless.
Glad that relationship is over. ex should just marry that toxic snake.
I think that friend has always been the fwb in between relationships and that's why OP 's ex got tense and didn't give a straight answer when she asked if he ever slept with the bff. Good riddance to him and his bff. They deserve each other. And that's why the "what if we break up?" He goes to that girl when he's single.
Her fiance just enjoyed the ego boost of having two women having beef over him.
Guy isn't non-confrontational, he's completely spineless
On story 2.This is advice I give to all new med students X-ray students.Any student I run into in the hospital and it applies elsewhere too.
People can be friendly at your job.But no one is your friend. The moment you trust someone to be your friend instead of a coworker is when You get your neck stepped on. There are people who literally make it.Their profashion to step on other people's corpses to ascend
And not just to get ahead. There's people who get their thrills from screwing over others. They're not happy unless someone else is miserable. Those are the ones to avoid at all costs.
I had something similar happen. Very early in my relationship with my now husband, he introduced me to a couple that were very good friends of his. (He's the godfather to their adoptive children) The wife just didn't seem to take to me at all and this was likely due to their being a large age gap between me and my then bf. After the intial meetup I wasn't invited over. My husband was uncomfortable with the situation but they helped him through some difficult times so I told him it was alright to visit her and her husband without me. Flash forward roughly 14 years later and we're planning our wedding guest list. He understood that I would be uncomfortable with her there despite me not saying anything. He ended up saying he wasn't inviting them to the wedding. (He did invite his god children) It wasn't until after that, that she reached out to try and fix things. (But not apologize 🙄) At that point my husband was visiting this friend less and less to the point it was only for b-days and christmas morning. I was incredibly thankful to him for doing that. It would have made what should have been a special day, super uncomfortable. OPs fiance didn't show that level of respect at all.
Op thank God you ran for the hills.
How long before the ex gets with the friend because she's the only woman who hasn't left him? He doesn't realise he's sabotage his relationships by not stopping this friend. Ops, not the only one who needs therapy. Send him this post-op. Maybe if he sees people who don't know him commenting, that will knock some sense into him.
Story 1: (NTA) Uh-oh, a female best friend of a straight male fiance, ignoring a female OP. Yeah, I'm guessing that the best friend has been holding onto the OP's fiance as her plan B if not had an unrequited crush on him for years. The biggest mistake from the OP was letting this go on and planning a wedding with a man who picked his friend over her. Sometimes you have to stand up for yourself instead of letting someone else's friend walk all over you. "I don't need her respect", yeah you do, healthy boundaries and social skills are all about respect. You need to discuss breaking things off with his friend with your fiance. Also, this is a sexist comment but it's true, straight guys aren't so socially or emotionally skilled or interested in pulling the pin on anything. How your partner treats you while dating or in a relationship is how they'll treat you when married, unless they're an abuser. Has the OP asked, "If I had a straight guy friend who was all into me and ignored you would you be okay with it?" It sounds like she brought up the issue once, the fiance accumulated proof and that was that. Don't let that b**ch in any of your wedding pictures. Imagine her smiling and leaning on your new husband and his family and ignoring you and yours, maybe even stealing a dance with your new husband or stealing your seat, next to him. What will the best friend do if you plan on having kids? Ignore the baby too? Or try to make it call her "Mummy"? It's coming down to the wire, you're planning a wedding. Couple's counselling or bust. How bad was the OP's previous relationships? Why was this the healthiest?
Update: The OP asked him about their future daughter being treated like this and he couldn't answer. This is his attitude, avoiding issues. "You're letting one person dictate our relationship" projecting much. So ignore the best friend, that's his new plan? Break it off and learn what a healthy relationship means and get an STD test. Most cheaters will get ultra-defensive when they even suspect that they're caught, drawing more attention to the cheating, ironically enough. She broke it off, finally.
Story 1: No, NTA, and good on OP for ending this relationship. Once OP brought up how non-confrontational her ex is, I knew this guy deserves a smack to the noggin. Even among your own friends, if they cannot show your significant other basic respect, that is not someone you want to keep around, cause that drama will forever linger over the relationship. The ex's inability to enforce boundaries is the reason why this relationship ended, and honestly, this is a lesson we can all take with us. If you cannot enforce boundaries, nobody will respect you no matter where you go.
Story 1: NTA Your fiance needs a reality check, and he needs to decide who he wants to be with. If one of my "friends," regardless of gender, were to treat my loved ones like that, then that "friend" would have to go and find new friends.
It's pretty sound advice for women to stay well away from men who are "non-confrontational". Confrontation is necessary and needed on a regular basis throughout your life, as there are lots of people who are arseholes, and a man who cannot do it, will be a pretty poor partner, no matter what their other positive traits.
Agreed. My college ex was non-confrontational and that's why he is an ex even though we were engaged. My husband is reserved but he is confrontational at the right moment. Its one of the things I love about him because we had serious challenges to overcome.
Exactly! You need to know that your partner has your back and will be there for you, whether a relative (MIL) or "friend" causing issues.
Every non-confrontational person I've met has been one of the following. 1, someone who keeps letting bad stuff happen to them and never looks to improve the situation no matter how much others try to help. 2, someone who sees mistreatment but doesn't get involved even to help their friends unless it directly affects them. 3, someone who starts drama, picks random fights, and has nasty things to say about everyone but "wants to avoid the drama."
This guy’s spine is made of tofu.
S1 if this is her healthiest relationship that's fkn sad. Jfc.
SHE COULD BE WORSE. SHE. COULD. BE. WORSE. EFF ALL THE WAY OFF, MATE.
@10:03 - No sir, YOU are allowing your friend to dictate YOU.
Mood booster: OP is YTA to herself and the business. What was she thinking, getting this "friend" her job back? She's a ticking time-bomb! Doesn't say much for the business that they took her back the first time she walked out. Glad OP finally learned how to say "no".
“Wow, *three crying emojis*” lol, love it
I don't understand why this keeps having to be asked. If you even have to approach your partner about not inviting someone who disrespects you to the wedding, your marriage is 99.9999% already doomed
It's because the Ops have ignored the situation about a hundred times, but at the wedding FINALLY they want to deal with it. Too late!!
Run. Hes spineless
It's fine for people to maintain outside friendships, crucial even. The difference is you don't let a friend blatantly disrespect your partner. The bf is clearly not concerned with OP's feelings & is keeping his friend as a backup plan regardless of how rude she is to OP. Good on OP for getting out of that toxic relationship.
Main story: I'm calling it. His so called "bestie" is in love with him or wants to keep him on the shelf in some sort of power move and OP had too much self-respect to be the third angle in this BS.
Dump him.
After update: Shame she still has to be around this worthless jellyfish, but good for her!
Mood booster: You don't have friends at work. You have coworkers. period. The OP knows exactly how to get under this leech's skin.
Story 1: the 'pick me' best friend of a fiancee. UGH. I would not want to put up with that garbage at all. I had enough of that in a dating relationship...
Whatever the best friend feels for OP's guy, it isn't love. It's possessiveness, if anything. If BF really loved him, she would want him to be happy, and would make an honest effort to get to know his partners.
In the words of Katt Williams: "You have an unnatural allegiance to losers that's not like you?"
I said in my fiance I will not have anybody in my life who does not respect me. Obviously you don't respect my worst you're not worth being in my life. And by the way your best friend is waiting for you to come sweep her off her feet. So even when I leave your next girlfriend is going to have the same problems cuz she's in love with you. Look you're with a man has no respect for your worth. You have two choices you can accept it or go find someone who's going to give you the love and respect you deserve. Cuz there's not a man on Earth ever let anybody disrespect the woman he truly loves.
Story 1: He for sure is doing some inappropriate with the friend,that's why he's so insistent with keeping her around and not doing anything about it. As well as getting upset for OP mentioning he was sleeping with her or something. Like he knows 100% what the issue is and that it's wrong. He just has a bigger reason to keep her on roster.
If anyone disrespects my partner I don't need to be asked to do something. If you don't fight for her why should she fight for you?
this isn't a friend issue, this is a fiancé issue. I bet the ex-fiancé is in love with the female friend, but the friend "friend zoned" him, but kept leading him on, but now that he's engaged and soon to lose her hold over him, the friend is pulling all of the stops to show that she's the ex-fiancé's #1. Once OP kicks him to the curb, and there is no danger of losing him, the girl friend will kick him back to the friendzone and he'll come crying when he can never have a solid relationship because his "friend" sabotages every relationship.
I've seen plenty of women do this to men all of the time, they will keep a guy "on the hook" that they have no romantic interest in, but the guy is easily manipulated and is the perfect backup or fall guy. These types of women see other women as a threat to their friendzone scam. OP is right for leaving, she'll never win.
OP’s ex doesn’t deserve to be in a relationship if he can’t defend his partner against his childish best friend.
I don't understand why people bring other people into their cheating. They're clearly sleeping with eachother, just leave op out of it!
Unless the BF finally decides to get rid of that woman, he will never have a healthy relationship. Serves him right. I hope other women running screaming, too.
Yep. I honestly hope the rest of his and OPs mutual friends decide to shun him after this.
But it's 100% fine for women to keep orbiters.
@@RisetoStrength that’s not fine either.
STORY 1: Glad OP left her disrespectful fiancé. It's clear he didn't value or respect OP. The fiancé was most definitely sleeping with his bff. I don't understand people like the fiancé. Why don't they just openly date their "friend" since it's very clear they value & love that person more than just a friend & more than the person they're dating. The whole " I value our friendship" is bs. Because if the friendship was truly valued, they would treat the "friend" as an actual friend instead of a secret lover.
Story 1: fiancée clearly is an orbiter for that best friend. OP needs to get out
Wonder how many other relationships this "friend" cost this guy?
6:12 Fiancé places loyalty above all else? Where is his loyalty to YOU, the person he's supposed to be committing to? Last I checked, your spouse is supposed to be above friends as that's who you're sharing you life with the most on almost all levels, if not all levels. And a "friend" who would covertly undermine a relationship like that is NO FRIEND AT ALL.
That coworker is probably an addict
Story 1. At first the fiance may not have realized exactly what was going on. However, when he finally realized how his "best friend" was treating her at that party, he shoukd have put his foot down.
I love my husband with my whole heart, but sometime I get frustrated with him because he can be clueless and things right in front of his face just flies over his head. My husband has/had a tight group of 6 friends. They have been friends since kindergarten. When we were dating and I first met the group, they were all warm and welcoming. All but one that is. The group is made up of 4 guys and 3 women. One of the women in the group seemed happy to meet me, but I could tell it was fake. After that first meeting I told my husband that this woman liked him, but he denied it and said there was no way because they were all like siblings. I explained to him that there is a difference between siblings and "like" siblings. We argued a bit about it then dropped it. The next 3 times we met up we had the same issue, but I didn’t mention it. At our wedding, a few months later, she got very drunk, started crying and towards the end of the wedding she started yelling at me that I ruined her life and how she was supposed to marry my husband. My husband was shocked, and my MIL (who has know this woman since she was 5), grabbed her by the arm, dragged her out. Outside the woman said some pretty racist and vile things about me (I am Puerto Rican and hubby is white) which infuriated my usual gentle and loving MIL and so my MIL slapped her. Our wedding was 30 years, and that the last time we saw her. She left the friend group as well.
He is either a jellyfish or uses his spine for the friend's "sake"
2nd Story
Nah, I definitely don't believe that story real...
She called the cops because someone complained about getting one sauce, then on top of that stalk a customer and insulted him... Yeah, no way she doesn't get fired for all that.
Had a friend who blew up at work, throwing everything around, including prep food because she didn't get her meth fix that morning..... And didn't get fired. Trust me, sometimes the GM is spineless. Her punishment? Cleaning it up. That's it.
Story one: lady find a guy with a backbone cuz this one has none
im sorry....did you say "roked" the boat? 😂😂
The fact he said “I don’t wanna cutt of my freinds because what I’d we break up!” Your… your getting married?
My ex wanted to invite me to his wedding. His now wife let me know how uncomfy she was. I got a registry item and informed him it’s a bad day for me as I had a surgery consult. He was a bit bummed but holy shit was I not gonna do that to either. He’s not important like that and I don’t own or want him. I’ve been best man in an exes wedding before, but only bcz his wife was so cool with it. I go with what makes everyone ok.
The fiancé's friend is not the issue whatsoever. The fiancé is the issue. He doesn't respect OP and she will have to deal with his dismissive indifference for the rest of her life. He knows what's happening, he knows why it's happening. He likes the attention and so is gaslighting OP to shut her up. He is treating OP like she is stupid. That is not a thoughtful and loving partner.
S1: she should have dumped him after the first response. He literally said she is my backup in case we break up. So he is stringing both girls along.
First story… I’m getting red flags 🚩 he’s cheating… why not the ex and the best ‘friend’ date? I wonder how he would’ve reacted if the shoe was on the other foot
Well, it sounds like the boyfriend wasn't too broken up about the relationship ending. I wonder why?
Last story: I'm confused. Why would OP think the coworker is a friend when she treats customers/strangers like crap? That was a huge red flag signaling what the coworker thinks about everyone. The GM needs to grow a spine, too. You don't keep someone on staff that chases customers away. If you can't stomach sacking someone that is hurting the business, you shouldn't be a manager.
Ppl are really crazy ! How would such behavior ever be okay ?
If that’s the healthiest and best relationship, in OP’s life…… 😩
Wait, they have children??? Or was the custody meant for the pets?
I’m sorry op lost six years with this spineless creature but glad she’s headed toward healing.
S2 - Speaking of Texas, the whole time i lived there, i drove tiny cars. VW Golf, Mitsubishi Eclipse, etc. I finally bought a big truck so I could move cross-country, and I needed the space. I will say this: I enjoyed not having to contort myself to enter or exit the vehicle. I enjoyed that I could easily drive over curbs or parking space barrier pumps. I enjoyed being able to look OVER the regular sized cars next to me, to tell if there’s oncoming traffic. I never had occasion to drive with a trailer on the tow hitch, so I can’t really comment there. (Though, we installed a tow hitch on the Mitsubishi, and crossed the country with a trailer then.). Definitely not a fan of the 12mpg fuel usage, but it was a V8.
I suspect that the mid-life crisis I’m in will have me learning to ride a motorcycle. Motorcycles are much more susceptible to inclement weather, so having a vehicle I can use to go fetch the motorcycle would be helpful.
There are plenty of fully rational reasons to get a truck. Still, there was a concept I learned, the “faux bubba”. Which (in the 90s) was someone who had a pickup with a CD player. Wore cowboy boots with his 3-piece suit. And would never haul anything, because it would scratch the paint INSIDE the truck bed.
Years later when he still alone because of his girl repellent of a bff, he would ask himself "Why?"...
And when that time is come and his bff has another person to fancy over, giving him less and less attention, he'd realize why, regretting his spinelessness lol
I can't believe he actually said "What if we break up" to the woman he supposedly made a commitment to marry--- sure you have no clue how things will change but bro cmon
To me the saddest part of this story is, initially I was sure I heard this exact story, but it went in entirely different direction. Meaning this is not a unique scenario and that's sad.
I know there are SOME cases where it works... but IN GENERAL, this is why men and women can't be friends when 1 or both are single....
I said what i said, if your man has female best friend, you're the other woman
Reddit has made me lose faith in humanity
Story 1: Wedding guest should be people who support and respect the bride/groom, and the marriage itself. This "friend" clearly doesn't fit into those. But frankly, this is a fiancee problem first and foremost.
And she hasn't liked any of his partners? Well who's the common denominator there? If they aren't f'ing already, they will be.
story 1: Sounds like that the Ex is facing a cycle of broken relationships, not knowing why all the while prioritizing his friendship/codependance-ship
Story 2...what a doormat OP was to stick up for and beg for a very poor-performing employee's job back. It hurts all the others working there.
Yeah she says he doesn't argue with people, but he sure argued with her over his friend....
Also how would he be acting if she had male best friend who treated him like that, he'd throw a fit!
I want to know what kind of job I can go into where I can shout and scream at customers anr still have work to go to the next day, let alone that tantrum (not a psychotic break, a tantrum) she went on to have. Madness.
it was clear what that friends intention is. Is basically a "pick me" friend who has feelings for that person and will be a jerk to any other relationship. I can see it from a mile away, and i know several people like this.
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Been there unfortunately more than 1 chick had done this with my husband while im standing there its jealously plain and simple !! She wants your man clearly!! She needs to go if she cant respect you and him to. 2:48 NOT THE A-HOLE
I don't get why there are so many stories of partners and their opposite sex best friend. I have a girl best friend & I'm pretty sure she's closer with my wife then I nowadays. OP needs to find someone that has a spine
I’m kinda going through something like this but the opposite. I’m the best friend and it’s the boyfriend that just ignores me. I have to say hello 4-5 times to even get a nod at times and he actively ignores me and all her friends. And it just rubs me the wrong way. Her friends and I feel so disrespected, but we also feel so sad for our friend. We would love to be friends or even just be in the same room with her bf but he just doesn’t like us. And even refuses to be in the same room sometimes.
I understand it’s different because my situation is a platonic one and this is a romantic one but gosh I understand OP’s feelings. I love my best friend with all my heart. She’s my sister. But our relationship has struggled and went down so much thanks to her bf.
I just never understand letting someone disrespect someone you love.
Sounds like she's never going to have a successful relationship.
Get out of the dude's business.
Why would you say hello 4-5 times?
When the second one didn't get a response, I would have 100% gotten the picture.
If it's an opposite sex friendship, he's not comfortable with you being around at all.
He doesn't believe it's platonic because he's a man and he knows the truth; you're an orbiter.
You are too close to her for her to become close with another man.
I'm glad your relationship is going down, maybe she's starting to see some sense.
I've never seen someone call a woman they're not related to their "sister" that didn't drop the label when she becomes single and vulnerable.
@@RisetoStrength pfft first of all I’m not a dude and I really don’t think gender should effect relationships at all but I know for some people gender is all.
Friendships with different genders is possible and it’s possible to form a family relationship with someone.
As for why I said hello so many times, it’s my best friend’s bf I was giving him the benefit of the doubt he didn’t hear me.
It’s sad that a lot of people get so self conscious and don’t allow their partners to have relationships beyond their own.
It’s good that OP is ending thing with the ex cause I guarantee that this isn’t the first time the female best friend did something like this when the ex was in a relationship. She has feelings for him but instead of admitting them she wants the ex there as a backup option in case she can’t find anyone better. Until he actual does something with the female best friend’s behavior towards his partner he’s just going to have break up after break up till he decides to settle with her.
Story 1. If she marries him, that woman will ALWAYS be around, and SHE will be his best friend, he will confide in her, and OP will just be the ding dong wallet and child producer. That's it. Either he ditches the friend, or you cancel the wedding. And get a new guy.
Been in this situation. That type of girl never backs off, if you talk to her, she will gaslight YOU.