The VW T-Roc is Proof We're ALL Going to Hell (And You Should Never Buy a Car from Arnold Clark)

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  • @theunsubscribed
    @theunsubscribed Рік тому +680

    Hello, Ex Volkswagen salesman here! I left VW just as these were coming out and a launch spec was my last demonstrator. I hated the seats which were uncomfortable and unsupportive, but the silliest thing was, when you see a T-Roc parked next to Golf you realise how little it was” raised” when you compare the rooflines.

    • @coolkid123456100
      @coolkid123456100 Рік тому +5

      What do you sell now?

    • @panoscoach310
      @panoscoach310 Рік тому +24

      Good luck making people comprehend that 🤣

    • @ElTurfStuff
      @ElTurfStuff Рік тому +16

      Personally I think these are the same size of the Seat Arona. The Ateca is a lot bigger. Personally I’d rather have the Skoda I’ve just ordered.

    • @barryjatkinson
      @barryjatkinson Рік тому

      @@ElTurfStuff which one and why?

    • @petrosnemardos
      @petrosnemardos Рік тому +4

      ​@@ElTurfStuff aren't these a tiguan with the back chopped off ?

  • @proton600
    @proton600 Рік тому +591

    Glad someone said it. I've had mates in their 20s lusting over these. It's a real sickness

    • @Fc-cb3tn
      @Fc-cb3tn Рік тому +62

      It’s the Yaris Verso of the modern day: a car for people who are looking forward to the day they die so it’ll give them something to do.

    • @johang7498
      @johang7498 Рік тому +41

      @@Fc-cb3tn The yaris verso had some practical merit (large boot, up to 1067 l. with the rear seats down). The T-roc has none that I can think of.

    • @chartreux1532
      @chartreux1532 Рік тому +17

      I don't like Crossovers either, but i can understand why People buy them. They sell like Hotcakes here in Germany and are apparently very reliable according to TÜV Statistics (Germany's very strict Car Control by the State which doesn't let you drive your Car anymore if it doesn't fit all the Laws) - basically the opposite of the USA where you can apparently drive any Car even it is a Danger to other Drivers and about to fall apart on the Highway
      Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps

    • @DonCarnaje
      @DonCarnaje Рік тому +93

      I remember in the 90s young men would want a Celica, Prelude, Probe or some sort of good looking and relatively sporty coupe. Now it's "I'm 25, unmarried, have no kids but need/want a slow boring front wheel drive five door hatchback that's pretending to be a Land Rover."

    • @omaralkayal7598
      @omaralkayal7598 Рік тому +12

      @@DonCarnaje
      I mean if you have no kids or a wife the logical car would be a sport sedan a coupe or even an economy sedan but their are many single people out their with crossovers

  • @GT-pl1wx
    @GT-pl1wx Рік тому +362

    Recently I heard someone say: "We bought an SUV because we needed the cargo space!" ...I was almost laughing!

    • @ControlAllDa1337
      @ControlAllDa1337 Рік тому +26

      Ah yes, all the vast cargo space of a... car.

    • @Serby665
      @Serby665 Рік тому +28

      They have a point. A T roc as more cargo space than a Golf.
      Raised cars have larger volumes than their equivalents, while keeping the same length.
      A T-Roc will have less volume than a Golf station wagon, but that will be longer.
      The main issue is fuel consumption. The T-Roc will have a larger fuel consumption than the Golf, given the same engine and gearbox.

    • @dainisvlasovs4273
      @dainisvlasovs4273 Рік тому +20

      @@Serby665 golf 380l t-roc 445 (400 for 4x4) passat variant... 650

    • @Serby665
      @Serby665 Рік тому +6

      @@dainisvlasovs4273 yes, but passat, or even golf break are long

    • @polardabear
      @polardabear Рік тому +5

      They think that saloons dont exist

  • @kowkes
    @kowkes Рік тому +138

    James, in Canada VW discontinued the estate models in order to bring to the public "What they want". We even had an all road version of the Golf estate that was exactly like you mentioned. CUV and SUV's will be the death of us all. Thank you for your public rant. It validating our shared view.

    • @Papinak2
      @Papinak2 Рік тому +7

      Skoda killed Fabia Estate, which made almost half of the models production, for Kamiq...

    • @SeanRosairo
      @SeanRosairo 4 місяці тому +1

      I loved the Alltrack. Even 8 year old ones with around 200k are still going for about $17,000. They were decently popular here!

    • @kowkes
      @kowkes 4 місяці тому +3

      @@SeanRosairo i love the all track basically a higher golf estate. Like the Audi Allroad. Which i incidentally love as well. We don't need SUVs or worse CUVs. Their headlights are not aimed properly and blind drivers of ordinary cars.

    • @SeanRosairo
      @SeanRosairo 4 місяці тому +2

      @@kowkes My theory is that some manufacturers aim their lights at the smaller cars so they can push people to the higher margin SUVs with cheaper build and interior quality. People think they must cost more to make but the material and labour cost is minimal and they can charge $3000 more at the least.

    • @jkliao6486
      @jkliao6486 3 місяці тому

      A while back I saw a golf alltrack in green, which was exactly the same color I had on my golf gti before I moved on from it. I just stood there and thought, what a lovely person, who bought the right thing in the right color.

  • @Subcat001
    @Subcat001 Рік тому +432

    The sad thing is that cars like this killed the MPV and mini MPV. The MPV may not have been exciting but they were at least designed and engineered to be practical family transport. Now the supermini, the hatchback and saloon are under threat by fashion.

    • @PetrolTaster
      @PetrolTaster Рік тому +38

      I think the older people like these because they're easy to get into but for some reason they don't have the whiff of stannah stairlift to them like a Ford Fusion, Honda Jazz or Citroen Berlingo does. At least not yet. I think part of what we hate about them is the pretentiousness of them, selling them as more versatile and more spacious than a hatchback when they're nothing of the sort, whereas MPV's actually are more useful.

    • @Subcat001
      @Subcat001 Рік тому +28

      @@PetrolTaster The original Berlingo and Kangoo are excellent examples of simple utilitarian design lacking today. I don't think crossovers are inherently bad. The Skoda Yeti was a prime example of how a crossover should be done. Ironically Skoda have taken a step backwards since.

    • @williamwoods8022
      @williamwoods8022 Рік тому +8

      @@Subcat001 Yep I would rather - and do own - one of the original Kangoo's - a 2008 1.5 Dci Expression and they are still far superior to any of these SUV's that you can use as a car, van, mini-camper etc and far more room inside the Kangoo as well.

    • @YouThana
      @YouThana Рік тому +24

      Exactly what Chris Harris said. The MPV was a smart concept designed by clever people. Maximising space and practicability and offering a car like experience in terms of driving and cost so people could get around buying large busses or vans. The SUV or crossover seems to do nothing particular well and more of a "worst of" compilation.

    • @Subcat001
      @Subcat001 Рік тому +2

      @@YouThana the declining value of automotive journalism and the demands of emerging markets have stifled innovation. No one has to make a great family car like the Mk1 Focus anymore. They only have impress people with equipment and a pseudo SUV driving experience.

  • @juanbugatti490
    @juanbugatti490 Рік тому +165

    Yes, you’re 100% right about these kind of cars. And the T-Roc convertible really looks like a bath tub, especially in white.

    • @robertharris7027
      @robertharris7027 Рік тому +12

      Just paint the convertible in NATO green and you have a modern version of the THING (VW 181).

    • @jaysmartin
      @jaysmartin Рік тому +2

      I like the cabrio version .. looks like a modern beach buggy (which has always resembled a bath tunb😅)

    • @ninjaxel93
      @ninjaxel93 Рік тому +1

      @@jaysmartin Yeah, paradoxically it "feels" cooler than the normal T-roc and the Taigo despite being even more useless, just because it is... crazier enough?

    • @studiocalder818
      @studiocalder818 Рік тому +3

      Absurd car!

    • @GT-pl1wx
      @GT-pl1wx Рік тому +2

      Exactly what I was thinking!😁

  • @rattylikez
    @rattylikez Рік тому +14

    What Grind my gears the most about the t-rock being a ”higher golf” is that we already had one, the golf alltrack. More spacious, better towing capacity and way better mileage.

  • @bogdansim3460
    @bogdansim3460 Рік тому +196

    Unfortunately Jay, you are among the few youtubers and journalist which has a critical approach. The wast majority of them seam to be in a competition of praises every time a new cross over is launched. This is something that makes me very sad, because the critical spirit is gone in the people around this industry (in the consumers it's completely dead). And this will one lead to more cars of questionable styling and quality. Much appreciate this review!

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 Рік тому +3

      Sheeple.

    • @bmmg123
      @bmmg123 Рік тому +7

      Critical spirit is gone in general...

    • @PippetWhippet
      @PippetWhippet Рік тому

      @@EvoraGT430 most people aren’t car people. They need a car, they get the best one for them. They don’t care. What’s your laptop? If it’s not a framework, are you sheeple? What’s your central heating system? If it’s not Bronze are you sheeple? Not really, you’re just not into plumbing or tech. You got the central heating that heats your house, who cares about the rest. You got the laptop that browses the internet and plays your videos, who cares about whether you can switch out your ports for the more modern ones. Let’s not even talk about your choice of pasta and which sauce you combine it with… spaghetti bolognaise? Sheeple ragu I say. ;)

    • @chrisburn7178
      @chrisburn7178 Рік тому +5

      Chris Harris effing hates them and says so at every opportunity. So does Hagerty. But yeah the more that say it the better, I guess. Although all auto manufacturers listen to is the great unwashed flocking to buy the horrid things - maybe that will change with the ebb of cheap PCP plans and finance now interest rates have risen.

    • @bogdansim3460
      @bogdansim3460 Рік тому

      @@chrisburn7178 You are right, but both of them are not the averaje Joe journalist. And in the end as you say, what matters the most are the sales figures. But commercial success is one thing and excellence is another. Trends come and go, let's arm with patience 😉👍

  • @davidclarke5238
    @davidclarke5238 Рік тому +739

    All crossovers are positively hideous and we won't look upon them particularly fondly in 25-30 years.

    • @davidclarke5238
      @davidclarke5238 Рік тому +27

      @@doubleL_S Of course, except we still look upon quite a few past mainstream cars very fondly.
      Apart from the supercar and sports brands, it's extremely difficult to think of any current mainstream car that will become sought after in time.

    • @FreshHesh
      @FreshHesh Рік тому +19

      I really hope you are right and we look back at this age in shame

    • @davidclarke5238
      @davidclarke5238 Рік тому +13

      @@FreshHesh 'Average' cars, perhaps ones for the slightly more well off person were in abundance.
      The Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Cloverleaf, the 156+147 GTA, the 159 Q4. The Golf R32 and Passat R36, even the bloody Rover 75 came with a V6. Now all we get are turbocharged 4s that aren't anywhere near as smooth and are quite frankly gritty and coarse.

    • @ArnoldClarke
      @ArnoldClarke Рік тому +8

      Hey you, woman need a car also.

    • @leostreat3573
      @leostreat3573 Рік тому +4

      @@ArnoldClarke lol 🤣. I see what you did there .

  • @lozetchells9164
    @lozetchells9164 Рік тому +336

    Absolutely brilliant!
    The video, not the car.
    James you have a way with automotive language that should by rights earn you a place on 5th gear at its zenith. Superb video.
    Also happened to agree with every word and I'm not even a petrol head.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  Рік тому +23

      Thanks Loz!

    • @chartreux1532
      @chartreux1532 Рік тому +6

      Is the VW T-Roc really that bad for UK Customers? I'm surprised by that because here in Germany these are really popular and rarely have Issues since Release.
      Makes me wonder if the ones going to the UK have some Difference about them or if it's something like the USA where German Brands can really get a bad Reputation just because of the Dealers of said Brands as well as certain Cultural Differences like how in the USA being punctual for your Oil Changes is rarely done punctually and the Owners then blame the Brand for their Car making Issues.
      Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps

    • @bosef1394
      @bosef1394 Рік тому +13

      @@chartreux1532 it’s not inherently “bad” in the UK. In fact, it’s quite popular. The only issue with it is that it’s a tremendously boring car.

    • @simonmason7420
      @simonmason7420 Рік тому +10

      I haven’t laughed to car video in a long time, but this was pure brilliance, I’ve become an avid viewer James! A different video to normal but class!

    • @jamesm90
      @jamesm90 Рік тому +3

      Completely agree, I find most VWs very bland. The 70s Scirocco was ok.

  • @Jw20000
    @Jw20000 Рік тому +16

    Thankyou for once again speaking my mind mate! The manufacturers need to listen to us. We don't want a small suv that's compromised in every way. We want small hatches, saloons, estates, 2 seaters full size proper 4x4 heavy tow vehicles.

    • @davidedney2323
      @davidedney2323 3 місяці тому +1

      That's not what new car buyers want it seems, the manufacturers are just following the market. They don't care what peope who buy their cars at 8 years old want.
      I hate these sorts of cars but have to accept the NPCs love them.

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 3 місяці тому

      Yes you do, so go buy one, bye!

    • @AntoniusTyas
      @AntoniusTyas 2 місяці тому

      Much as I want to agree with you, unfortunately the reality is that people really do want this kind of car, for image if nothing else. For them, big luxury 4x4s like Range Rovers are too environmentally unfriendly, supercars and sportscars are for pagans, hatchbacks are for yoofs and saloons are for sales reps, not for successful mum. So naturally they went for a mishmash of everything. And they seemed to be fawning over these crossovers.
      We are doomed.

  • @scottbrown7415
    @scottbrown7415 Рік тому +36

    It's not just the " mundane nature " of the VW crossover SUV.
    It's the mind numbing sameness of every single one of them!

    • @Pyjamarama11
      @Pyjamarama11 3 місяці тому

      All using the same dull CAD packages

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Pyjamarama11Not really, VWs were like that since forever.

  • @willst2580
    @willst2580 Рік тому +52

    Worked in automotive sales for a few years and I totally agree, so unnecessary the want to be higher up. Awful to see people buying suv/cross over's when there is no need 95% of the time; especially when an estate has a similar footprint, more space and better driving characteristic's. And as you said people are buying these at a phenomenal rate, boggles the mind

    • @chachar7458
      @chachar7458 Рік тому +6

      It's not for you to say what other people need or "should" want - that's their business. By all means criticize their choices, but be aware that your opinion is irrelevant.

    • @rogercantwell3622
      @rogercantwell3622 Рік тому +3

      Depreciation. An SUV has better residuals because the masses want them, whereas a saloon or estate loses value precipitously. So you end up buying an SUV because everyone else does.

    • @JahoSelamaj
      @JahoSelamaj 9 місяців тому

      They're status symbol thats why

  • @danmccarthy4700
    @danmccarthy4700 Рік тому +105

    The whole crossover boom probably wouldn't bother me quite as much if it didn't cause automakers to scrap sedans, my beloved convertibles, and other body styles altogether.
    Also, killer job on the thumbnail. It's pretty much me when I see another friend or family member's purchased a crossover.

    • @sandersson2813
      @sandersson2813 Рік тому

      Sedans or saloons as they're called are just stupid. Unless they have a hatchback they're a waste of time.

    • @SNAFFUcwalk
      @SNAFFUcwalk Рік тому +10

      @@sandersson2813 Please elaborate on this. You can't just say your opinion and not explain yourself.

    • @sandersson2813
      @sandersson2813 Рік тому +2

      @@SNAFFUcwalk I just did.
      Huge impracticality of having a bootlid with a narrow opening.
      Plus the estate version of virtually every saloon car is better looking and more practical.

    • @_TCR_
      @_TCR_ Рік тому +9

      @@sandersson2813 You could also say hatchbacks are dumb because they sacrifice boot space to look slightly better

    • @sandersson2813
      @sandersson2813 Рік тому

      @@_TCR_ Well you could do, but hatchbacks aren't declining in popularity to tje same degree as saloon cars.

  • @richmaya
    @richmaya Рік тому +5

    Spot on. I've been ranting for the exact same reasons. You're not alone. The real horror for me is that the second-hand market will be flooded with this kind of dross, and I will struggle to find my next taxi in a few years.

  • @philipcupid6660
    @philipcupid6660 Рік тому +11

    Just spent a week in a cousin of the T Rock (Seat Arona) and my family and I managed to live. The fact it was a rental made it clear that although the sat nav was useable, and 2 large suitcases and 1 & a half squashy bags go in the boot, I remember a Fiat 127 could fit 6 people! With 2 rucksacks and snacks back in 1975....

    • @WetPig
      @WetPig 9 місяців тому +2

      And in the event of an accident, the village would have a few hundred pounds of ground beef, ah, the good old days.

  • @kieran2k8lol
    @kieran2k8lol Рік тому +75

    I play a game with my partner because of all the cross-over/SUVs on the road, especially when it's the big ones, where we look at how many people are actually in them. usually just the one person driving the biggest car they possibly can as a status symbol

    • @Blade1310
      @Blade1310 Рік тому +24

      I play a similar game when I encounter them coming towards me down British B roads but it usually entails me shouting something like - "If your car's too big for you get something smaller you can handle!" as I teeter towards the ditch/hedge because they're straddling the white line with acres of space on their nearside with no idea how wide their vehicle is and how to position it. 🙄

    • @gravemind6536
      @gravemind6536 Рік тому +2

      They don't even offer more space inside though

    • @martso9288
      @martso9288 Рік тому +3

      It used to be people flexing with sports cars, that people accutally want and like, but nowadays...

    • @kieran2k8lol
      @kieran2k8lol Рік тому +2

      @@martso9288 Thing is, i get way more attention in my £4k kiwi green leon cupra than any of the generic black bmw/audis ever will

    • @HardRoad2Travel
      @HardRoad2Travel Рік тому +2

      Yeah - I bought my '05 Sequoia in 2021 because I needed the status boost. Well that, and to compensate for my micropenis.
      What you might not see, when you pass me and I'm alone, is the 4 bales of hay and 140 pounds of sweet cob in the back. Factory tinted windows doncha know.
      But you're probably right, in that a significant portion of big SUVs are 100% under utilized. Never full, never need 4wd, never a tow vehicle. I can honestly say mine is full a reasonable amount of time, lives 1/3 of a mile from pavement, and occasionally is used at 95% of rated towing capacity.
      However, it seems like it's the modern way to paint with the widest roller you can find, when it comes to putting down other folks.
      I hope that whatever you're driving, it gives you joy, and meets your needs. Whether that be a 3/4 ton pickup, a Porsche 911 GT3, or a Nissan Leaf.

  • @hexgraphica
    @hexgraphica Рік тому +33

    JayEmm unleashed on cars
    This video made me smile many times, thanks!

  • @tonyh6951
    @tonyh6951 3 місяці тому +13

    Well mine's been alright. It's a car. It starts on a morning. I dont particularly need to drive above the speed limit.
    I'm an average bloke ... in an average car.
    Nobody had died, or gone to war ...
    It's a car!
    I'm not involved in a 'Paid Promotion'.
    X

  • @Joe-lb8qn
    @Joe-lb8qn Рік тому +10

    I swear this is true. Never driven or been in one but met a friend in a car park the other day getting in one and I said something like "whats it like i like the look of that" and he said "its rubbish and going back end of lease next week and sticking with our other car, a golf" 🙂 ! We were both heading off so no time to discuss why he didn't like it.

  • @Gorbyrev
    @Gorbyrev Рік тому +97

    Arnold Shark as they're known locally :) However 32 mpg from the trip computer is pretty dismal. So many people have been chased off diesels for various reasons but those compression ignition lumps do know how to eek out a gallon. So enjoyed that James.

    • @karsnoordhuis4351
      @karsnoordhuis4351 Рік тому +16

      59mpg my diesel punto did today on stretches. Ive seen 70+mpg if you stick behind a van at juuuuust the right distance on a good day. Diesel is still excellent for highway cruising i think.

    • @ThexMJT
      @ThexMJT Рік тому +10

      @@karsnoordhuis4351 got a 1.6 TDCI Fiesta it does 55mpg anywhere driving however. If I was to actually drive slower it would be 65+ especially cruising at constant speed.

    • @chartreux1532
      @chartreux1532 Рік тому +2

      In Germany Diesels still sell very well and you see them everywhere. I know in the US they got rare, though were pretty uncommon before as i understand.

    • @hard2600
      @hard2600 Рік тому +4

      Same here in Estonia. A lot of diesel cars and they even cost more than petrol cars. I believe it's all because of such high prices for fuel. I myself have a diesel Ford focus 1.6 from 2006. It's got excellent mileage.

    • @rickyg1247
      @rickyg1247 Рік тому

      ref diesel economy - not great on my 3l V6 Jeep GC CRD!!!, thats pretty bad on diesel, but I dont care now I've seen how bad that horror show is on fuel

  • @stevenbaeyens2652
    @stevenbaeyens2652 Рік тому +157

    I hate this type of cars. Just get a station for christ sake.

    • @finalpharoah1
      @finalpharoah1 Рік тому +9

      They too low

    • @hi9580
      @hi9580 Рік тому +1

      Needs more side windows at the back to be wagon

    • @pontozannata8847
      @pontozannata8847 Рік тому +4

      Wagons are ugly tho

    • @afrousel4731
      @afrousel4731 Рік тому

      @@pontozannata8847 Yeah you're a degenerate haha

    • @JJVernig
      @JJVernig Рік тому +3

      Or go to the station!
      Those people aren’t interested in cars and drive accordingly..

  • @carlwilliams3488
    @carlwilliams3488 Рік тому +6

    Couple of points, my mum with a couple of herniated disks and needing a hip replacement could get in and out of her Jazz well enough not to consider getting a crossover. The TSI is known in the indy trade for blowing headgaskets, I was quite surprised to hear this but with a couple of mates who own garages they both told me this.

  • @adriandickinson204
    @adriandickinson204 Рік тому +2

    Couldn't agree more, however, with 1 caveat. I have a Skoda Yeti 170tdi 4x4 that I've had since new (2012). It's genuinely capable off-road having the "off-road" button & rough road package, & despite being shorter than a Golf, it has a 416 litre boot before you start sliding the seats forward, with the rear seats removed it's 1760 litres, fold the front passenger seat & it's a huge 2100 litres, & gets regularly used in this format. On winter tyres it has no problem climbing a local 1 in 5 20% hill in 5" of snow & it'll tow 2 tons, all capabilities I've used many times. The practicality is obviously aided by the (to me) very agreeable tonka toy 4x4 looks with its completely vertical rear & as a result you can stand or sit under the open tailgate when changing muddy boots etc. in the rain, so it's brilliantly practical for lifestylee types. Skoda lost the plot replacing it with the Karoq/Kamiq combination which, while being award winning cars (somehow), lost much of this inherent "Yetiness" that to me is central to its apeal. Mine's also remapped with Eibach springs, Bilstein dampers & Brembo brakes James, so it's fairly quick of you fancy a go. Not as quick as my Audi S3 true, but as the steering's nicer than the S3's & it's a manual, it's a far better pedal than its looks might suggesst, & in 152k miles, it's never missed a beat. Best car I've ever owned. Whilst I'm not really a fan of these new Crossovers because the majority don't justify their extra bulk or running costs with added capabilities, they do share 1 thing with the Yeti though, I don't need to curl up to get in!

  • @GryphLane
    @GryphLane Рік тому +11

    Nah. I'll stick with my 3.0 V6 Mondeo barge thanks. My trip computer's currently showing 30.1mpg. 32mpg from a 1.5 TSI is absolutely shocking

  • @barryjatkinson
    @barryjatkinson Рік тому +15

    It's what he feels. An honest review is appreciated.

  • @Twmpa
    @Twmpa Рік тому +9

    Fully agree with your opinions on crossovers. I really cannot see what the point of them is. They gain no interior space over the hatchback on which they are based and I have come across many with less. Also, because they are taller, they tend to be worse on fuel economy as the Troc proves only too well - 33mpg for a modern car of this size is disgraceful. I have just spent the last 2 weeks in a diesel Astra estate which, at 4.7m long, is not a small car. I am not of fan of it and I think it was designed by a committee with no actual interest in cars, but it was comfy enough and, in around 800 miles of mainly motorway driving it averaged nearly 64mpg. My own car is a 2.0 diesel Citroen MPV with acres of interior space and even that gives me around 45mpg in normal mixed use.

  • @TheOtherNEO
    @TheOtherNEO Рік тому +30

    Since you mentioned “the elderly” and dropping in, from my little experience when helping with someone’s elderly mother with hip replacements, she found the low car easier to get in and out. I had a MINI cooper and a Nissan Pathfinder and she preferred the MINI. Now, myself have a back problem and having to step up into a crossover is worse than just dropping into a regular sedan.

    • @stevenmoran4060
      @stevenmoran4060 Рік тому +4

      But, if you suffered with arthritis especially in spine and hips these cars make life much easier getting in and out of. No stepping up or down, just slide in.

    • @davimurph
      @davimurph Рік тому +1

      It depends on the person. We used to have an Alhambra and a Focus. My mum's mum couldn't get down into the Focus and my dad's dad couldn't get up into the Alhambra. Admittedly, that's a very small sample, but I think it illustrates that "the elderly" aren't homogeneous.

    • @anniealexander9911
      @anniealexander9911 2 місяці тому +1

      I realise I'm a year late but YT put this video in my recommendations.
      My mother required double hip and double knee replacement but surgeons declined her as she was unsuitable for surgery for other health reasons. She hated the drop down into the seats of my dad's BMW, but liked my Toyotas with the higher seating position. She found climbing up and in much easier. My dad tho had knee replacement and preferred dropping down into a seat. I've always preferred a higher seating position (and have arthritis in multiple joints), and if you put the Toyota seats right up then you can see so much more. I was surprised about his comment re: seeing the kerb and manouvres as, in toyota, you can see the front of bonnet and the kerbs no problem

  • @keithmitchell3916
    @keithmitchell3916 Рік тому +17

    Absolutely agree on every point. Why ppl buy these cars I'll never understand. Brilliant review.

    • @floriskuipers4925
      @floriskuipers4925 Рік тому +1

      They buy them because the margins on them are bigger so the entire marketing budget of pretty much all manufacturers goes into promoting them.

  • @RichieRouge206
    @RichieRouge206 Рік тому +62

    Fantastic video Jay and very well said. I have been saying this about the ‘Troc’ and people don’t believe me. I worked on a few of these fitting cameras. The quality of these is really poor behind the scenes. Honestly I worked on a 260k SsanYong Rexton and it didn’t feel much worse in the plastic quality stakes. Yes - it does feel ‘premium’ ish on the bits you touch but it’s very much a vase of style over substance with new VWs and they are very much flogging crap under the illusion that younare getting premium. They are absolutely average to point the of mind numbingly and if a T-reg Nissan Almera drive past it would seem very exciting! And I absolutely HATE the new touch screen controls. They’re unsafe, temperamental and stupid. There’s nothing wrong with dials and knobs.

  • @ninjaxel93
    @ninjaxel93 Рік тому +79

    Very well said, seriously the SUV's/Crossover obsession is pure madness... they serve no purpose outside of inflating egos and somehow making money for car-makers. Also cosidering that, apart for a few models wich are actually minivans in disguise, almost all of these are just more polluting variants of their better "normal" car counterparts i think it's even immoral to keep pushing to market and sell this kinds of vehicles for the masses.

    • @gravemind6536
      @gravemind6536 Рік тому +22

      Yep CO2 emmissions from cars have actually gone up on average despite the advances in engine technology due to the added weight and brick like aerodynamics of these SUVs and Crossovers.

    • @georgevavoulis4758
      @georgevavoulis4758 Рік тому +4

      CROSSOVERS look like a hatchback on TESTOSTERONE or SUV on ESTROGEN and never really accomplish much .

    • @ninjaxel93
      @ninjaxel93 Рік тому

      @@georgevavoulis4758 Not even that in my opinion, they look like hatchbacks that are compensating... just buy a hatchback.

    • @jamesmedina2062
      @jamesmedina2062 Рік тому

      Well-stated!👏I totally agree with you!

    • @gravemind6536
      @gravemind6536 Рік тому +3

      @@georgevavoulis4758 When I think of an SUV I think of something that is highly capable across all terrain on and off road, things like the Toyota Land Cruiser, Land Rover Defender and other old school Land Rovers that were rugged and capable vehicles at all times. Crossovers and some of these modern SUVs are a joke and go against all that an SUV is suppossed to be. When you see big SUVs with 22inch wheels and low profile tyres you see an SUV thats been ruined in an attempt to improve on road handling but in reality makes the ultimate compromise.

  • @iiloyjerh5396
    @iiloyjerh5396 Рік тому +20

    While watching this video I got an advert for the new T-Roc, and one of the features that VW decided to proclaim was the new haptic "multi-function steering wheel"

    • @TorazChryx
      @TorazChryx Рік тому +1

      So it now goes LEFT and RIGHT? saving drivers from having to turn left three times to go right? that's a huge timesaving!

    • @lozetchells9164
      @lozetchells9164 Рік тому +1

      VW need to learn on this. I will NEVER buy a car with touch controls on the steering wheel, and judging from every review I've ever read or watched I'm not alone.

    • @adams7405
      @adams7405 Рік тому +2

      @@lozetchells9164 VW are quietly binning it...the lease builds I am ordering for March 23 don't seem to feature it

    • @lozetchells9164
      @lozetchells9164 Рік тому

      @@adams7405 excellent news, it'll take a long old while to die from their electric lineup though

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl Рік тому

      @@adams7405 Google it and VW have admitted it was a mistake. They haven't said anything about the HVAC controls though.

  • @noisemunga7845
    @noisemunga7845 Рік тому +99

    Once again I find myself completely agreeing with every point made in this video. I have no idea why people want these cars aside from having accessibility issues with normal hatchbacks. I know we are an aging population but surely everyone isn't in their 80's all of a sudden? Anyway, someone needed to say something and Jay, I'm glad you did 👍.

    • @Subcat001
      @Subcat001 Рік тому +16

      I've been a life long petrolhead. I find joy in just about every type and age of car. From the simplicity of people cars to super cars. I even appreciate the much maligned Fiat Multipla. However the crossover I have absolutely zero desire to own or even drive.

    • @baronvonjo1929
      @baronvonjo1929 Рік тому +7

      Well they are doing something right to appeal to so many people across the entire globe, across all price segments, classes of people, cultures and even to the point where ultra luxury and super car brands are adopting them. I guess we are going back to the orginal car body styles from the early 20th century. Lifted up two door box deisgn. Maybe crumbling infrastructure plays a role for some folks?

    • @norwegianzound
      @norwegianzound Рік тому +3

      My wife has accessibility issues, so we've had a series of crossovers. I love fast saloons but haven't had one in over 20 years. It's depressing.

    • @N3onDr1v3
      @N3onDr1v3 Рік тому

      @@norwegianzound juke nismo for you?

    • @miltosmiltos4614
      @miltosmiltos4614 Рік тому +1

      Totally on point 👍. Who are these buyers? Please show up and explain yourselves!

  • @pqsaservices
    @pqsaservices Рік тому +3

    Hi Jay, Thanks for the review. I find myself agreeing whole heartedly with your comments about the T-ROC! I can't see any real selling point for the Cross-Over class as a whole, especially if they are still 2WD and small 'economical' engines. It's a half-way house that has almost no redeeming features!
    Having said all this I will say I do appreciate being higher up, I'm an ex-lorry driver and I got used to the excellent views from lorry cabs and the more upright seating position that they have also. I now drive the bigger brother of the T-Roc the SEAT Tarraco with the 2.0Ltr 150ps TDi diesel and 4WD. It replaced a Passat 2.0TDi Estate car for towing our caravan. Not only does it do that extremely well, I find the more upright seating far more comfortable for long journeys. I can drive 500 miles in a day and still feel fresh at the end of it in the Tarraco, while I would be exhausted and have serious back ache when doing the same in the Passat.
    Jonathan.

  • @DavidJohnson-gh3si
    @DavidJohnson-gh3si Рік тому +3

    I’ve been watching your vids for about a year now and that was, without a doubt, the most entertaining. Keep on telling it like it is bay bee

  • @bertramspielt
    @bertramspielt Рік тому +80

    This is by far the absolute best review of the awful TRoc ever (and one of your best videos also)!
    Thank you for putting a big smile in my face!
    Greetings from Austria🇦🇹!

    • @thedriver08
      @thedriver08 Рік тому +7

      Leider sieht man die bei uns in Österreich immer öfter 🙄

    • @someguy9520
      @someguy9520 Рік тому +2

      Ich checks auch nicht
      T-roc, tiguan, touraeg etc
      Alles nur aufgestelzte golf mit mehr verbrauch, weniger platz, weniger stauraum, höherem preis, schlechtere fahrdynamik und (meiner meinung nach) schlechtere optik
      Den touraeg könnte man noch als offroader kategorisieren mit dem chassis. Aber alles andere...kauf einfach nen golf, golf variant oder nen touran(gibts nicht mehr lange)

    • @TheMusicFan1297
      @TheMusicFan1297 Рік тому +1

      @@thedriver08 Deutschland ist voll davon. Am besten in Unifarben, weiß, silber oder schwarz. Fahrende Langeweile.

    • @thedriver08
      @thedriver08 Рік тому

      @@TheMusicFan1297 Die Ausstrahlung und das Charisma von veganem Schinken 😂

  • @Dj.Ray.Von.
    @Dj.Ray.Von. Рік тому +21

    Sorry Jay. But that seatbelt bong made this possibly the funniest video you've uploaded 😂 it's actually just brightened a bad day for me.. So thank you for that! Crazy thing is it's probably merely a micro switch in the seatbelt clasp that needs a good bum fluff clean out... However a week of this (max) and I'd end up killing it with fire.
    Highly annoying for the driver. Highly amusing for us viewers watching you grunting and pointing at it.

    • @paulketchupwitheverything767
      @paulketchupwitheverything767 Рік тому

      It sounds like the chime of a piece of medical monitoring equipment. Perhaps it's a necessary feature to remind the driver that they are still alive, albeit barely.

    • @majenix
      @majenix Рік тому

      My passat and Jetta would do that when i placed a charging phone on the passenger seat. Unplug it and its fine. Something weird about the seat sensor.

  • @abolfans
    @abolfans Рік тому +4

    I find it crazy that today I walk in to the VW dealer and don't see any golf 8 in the showroom, just T-cross, taigo, T-roc, Tiguan facelift and a passat from 2015 with some facelifts. VW keeps pushing previous GEN technologies in "new" SUV's.

  • @markwright3161
    @markwright3161 Рік тому +4

    The car for the elderly, those needing a higher seat (that's easy to get in and out of you know) was previously available from VW, the Golf Plus, then Golf SV. They actually benefited those who needed easier access as they have a taller door opening than a regular hatchback with more upright seating possible due to the higher roof, unlike the faux-by-fours that just raise the hatchback's body then stick plastic underneath it to eradicate any additional ground clearance you might gain from doing so. The smaller 5 seat MPV actually offered something over the hatchback while sitting in the same footprint. As the floor height stayed the same as the regular hatchback, you actually got a deeper (vertically) boot alongside the aforementioned more upright seating and easier access, unlike the faux-by-fours that have a larger footprint but give you nothing for it, besides an increased risk of being on your roof after a crash. The MPVs, because they keep all the heavy stuff at the same low floor height as the base hatchback, don't even do that, at least to the same degree, despite giving you things that would warrant it for those needing such features.

    • @peterrenn6341
      @peterrenn6341 3 місяці тому +1

      "that's easy to get in and out of you know" - 🙂 I see what you did there.

  • @Killerpixel11
    @Killerpixel11 Рік тому +17

    What do people need to "see more" by buying a car on stilts, anyway?
    You don't see more. All you're doing is increasing blind spots all around, not just the sides. But I guess they have to upsell that 360 camera somehow...
    Also: they made the kind of Golf you mention. It was first called the Golf Plus. Then it was the Golf Sportswagon. Then it was binned.

    • @joshbacon8241
      @joshbacon8241 Рік тому

      And by upselling that camera, the dealers will no doubt make more money on each one they sell…

    • @miskatonic6210
      @miskatonic6210 Рік тому

      Of course you see more, dummy. Did you ever drive a van?

  • @williamfence566
    @williamfence566 Рік тому +6

    If anyone thought marketing doesn't work look at Crossover and SUV sales. Best summary I've seen in this vid.

  • @JMDWestley
    @JMDWestley Рік тому +1

    Remember we did have a Golf Plus or SV depending on country. However the smallest VW crossover/suv that I would have is a Tiguan Allspace as others don’t offer anything extra to the normal cars. It’s getting tricky finding the right car now due to the rise in automatics and a push for smaller engines. Soon to leave me is a 2019 Focus Active Estate with the 2l ecoblue it’s been reliable I’ve put 80k on and the raised suspension soaks up the speed bumps or potholes without effecting it much on the twistys. If it were possible I would order another but it’s engine faced a demise. So now about to get a Citroen C5 Aircross last of the manual diesels, the reasoning for such a car, big boot (for work) helps that it has sliding seats and the height should help with the now child seat.

  • @robogoku
    @robogoku Рік тому +4

    Love to hear that the VW seatbelt alarm sound has *barely* changed 18 years later. Amazing considering I live across the pond.

  • @scott8919
    @scott8919 Рік тому +11

    The whole gag with the seatbelt chime had me in stitches. Lovely.

  • @mooferoo
    @mooferoo Рік тому +11

    There was an official taller Golf. It was called the Golf Plus, then called the Golf SV. Looks like it finished production in 2020. My dad had one (due to a hip operation). They were great cars.

    • @seowebua
      @seowebua Рік тому +5

      even before that - there was one in the 90-s called Golf Country

  • @elektro3000
    @elektro3000 Рік тому +2

    Hi Jay. I love your videos in general, and the ones about cars I actually want are...more fun. But this video is...more true. Jay, if you're ever in Michigan, or I'm in the UK, your beers are on me.

  • @tonyc2837
    @tonyc2837 Рік тому +5

    I’ve got the same model , but a six speed manual. It averages about 36 around town and 50 on the motorway, which I find quite acceptable. By the way the boot floor was in the high position, lowering it gives it quite a generous amount of boot space.

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 Рік тому

      Bad luck. See 4:43

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry Рік тому +1

      My 3.4L NA Porsche gets 47-48mpg on the motorway, not sure I could accept a car with less than half the power getting 3mpg more...only 20 litres less boot space too. Also pretty much the same price to buy as a new T-Roc, as it happens. It's nice to know I could have had a T-Roc, but it's nicer to know that I didn't 😁

  • @evansisgreat
    @evansisgreat Рік тому +46

    I get blinded by oncoming traffic at night in my little Z3 and my e46. My parents swapped to a crossover from a 3er to be a bit higher and avoid being blinded, I really think that's a big part of it for older drivers.

    • @Mgoblagulkablong
      @Mgoblagulkablong Рік тому

      Compact vans like Golf Sports Van, Mercedes B class, BMW Active Tourer, etc are the same height or even taller, that "excuse" for SUV is BS, nonsense

    • @graemewilson1400
      @graemewilson1400 Рік тому +4

      Yes being blinded from the rear is the worst thing. Here in Oz we have people putting lift kits on 4×4 Ute's they just blind you sitting in traffic or stop lights LED'S blazing it's the outside mirrors that are the worst. When you follow one they have this beautiful flat cut of that shines straight into the cab of the car in front grrrrr. Anyway thanks James for a good laugh 😃

    • @MrManBuzz
      @MrManBuzz Рік тому +15

      It's genuinely dangerous driving my NA MX5 at night nowadays for this exact reason.

    • @olii9062
      @olii9062 Рік тому +1

      @@MrManBuzz You get used to it, eventually. I use mine for pizza delivery.

    • @MrManBuzz
      @MrManBuzz Рік тому +5

      @@olii9062 You get used to it in so far as you don't get dazzled, but you're still driving blind until the car passes, and that's what's dangerous about it.

  • @jamesthomson3511
    @jamesthomson3511 Рік тому +8

    RoadX is an Arnold Clark special tyre I think 🤦‍♂️ you can imagine the despair when I found out it was them who changed all four discs and pads on my MX5 after I’d bought it 😢

  • @cbatiau2528
    @cbatiau2528 Рік тому +1

    Totally agree about people who are elderly or who have mobility problems (bad knees, hips, etc.) needing a higher seat to get into … I’m assuming that the auto industry has gotten that message loud and clear …

  • @MartinParnham
    @MartinParnham Рік тому +2

    We've just bought a Puma, as we've had a new baby and you try getting prams/car seats/other paraphernalia in the back of a hatchback or supermini. That's another reason people get them. We wanted something with a bit more space (which, unfortunately equals bigger usually) but wasn't like commanding a land yacht. I do take your point about it being strange that people want to be high up nowadays. It used to be that everyone wanted to be low down, like in a sports car.
    With the electric car thing, people go for big partly because of the lack of choice in the smaller sector (manufacturers just aren't making many small electric cars) and the relatively high cost. Until recently, I have driven Corsas and Vauxhall are one of the few manufacturers to really push an electric version of a popular small car (see the demise of the Fiesta) but, really, it's far too expensive for what it is and you might as well save your money and buy a petrol version, if you want that car. I think some of it is that if people are spending £25k then they might as well get more space or a bigger car for their money. We've got an EV point as well but it just isn't cost-effective at the moment. Before the new addition I would have got an EV but, as I say, too expensive.

    • @moss3470
      @moss3470 2 місяці тому

      the puma has the same interior space as a fiesta. its a fiesta based crossover.

  • @3231687
    @3231687 Рік тому +17

    When i was buying my mazda 3 sedan 2021, the sales man tried 3-4 time to lead me down the path of a cx 30 that basically is a mazda 3 bit taller, heavier, more expensive in the same trim. Had to basically tell him that if i was gifted a cross over , i would just sell it immediately and buy a normal car. So i do not get the idea of them at all, not a terrain vehicle, higher fuel consumption and more expensive. Only possible plus side is that it might be bit safer in some situations vs a golf or in my case a mazda 3.

    • @GoldenCroc
      @GoldenCroc Рік тому +3

      Why would it be safer? Some test results? Because certainly the bodystyle is less safe than a lower hatchback sibling.

    • @3231687
      @3231687 Рік тому

      @@GoldenCroc i just cited same test saying it might be a bit safer in some situations like side inpacts where more impact load is absorbed by the floor of the crash structure...anyways i just said that its the only possible plus side...as in a very remote chance to be a bit safer not as defence for them heh.

    • @wjcferguson
      @wjcferguson Рік тому

      @@3231687 I hadn't heard that about the floor but it makes sense. So infuriatingly, these higher vehicles are putting car drivers at extra risk by hitting them higher. They're the disease and the cure.

    • @gravemind6536
      @gravemind6536 Рік тому

      @@3231687 They're also far more likely to roll over in a side impact or in an emergency manourve when swerving.

    • @3231687
      @3231687 Рік тому

      @@gravemind6536 heh guys know it all...last guy to defend them just stated it as a remote chance why people might be also buying them

  • @mikadavies660
    @mikadavies660 Рік тому +9

    Love the review. One of the best slagging of both VW & Arnold Clark... 👍👍👍. Sadly modern VW...... Expensive whilst cheap materials. Used to love the Golf, now wouldn't waste my money on one.

  • @MysteriousMatt89
    @MysteriousMatt89 Рік тому +1

    I love your unique car opinions that actually have the consumer in mind. Great verdict!

  • @ghostridersinthesky
    @ghostridersinthesky Рік тому +2

    Great review! I have the same opinion of my mum’s Renault Captur. There is nothing wrong with it, but that’s where the positive comments end. There is no aspect of these mini SUVs that make you think that the people designing, building or selling them actually enjoy their jobs.
    The route you too the Troc on was stunning. Where was this filmed?

    • @hangemhigh113
      @hangemhigh113 9 місяців тому

      I have driven both. The Captur is worse in every possible category, from looks, to cabin noise, through engine, handling, responsiveness, ride quality, boot space - you name it, the T-Roc is just way better. Once you drive one you will understand why it's so popular - it's like a golf, only better (and way cheaper).

  • @Russell_G
    @Russell_G Рік тому +10

    Best review I've seen on You Tube for a loooooong time...well played Sir!

  • @davidarter6271
    @davidarter6271 Рік тому +3

    Brilliant review, James! I guess some people would crave a car like this, I’m just not one of them.

  • @Lewis_Treff97
    @Lewis_Treff97 Рік тому

    I agree with you regarding Arnold Clark and a lot of what you mention. 3 weeks ago I took my golf to vw Arnold Clark for a service and asked them to sort the exhaust leak with new exhaust clamps, they never had any in stock so they booked me to come back the next week. £60 for the clamps and labour, which is extortionate due to them only having minimum labour being an hour. They also washed my car before they contacted me to ask if I wanted washed which I didn't and noticed they had damaged my sunstrip with the pressure washer and unsurprisingly they did an awful job washing it. The next day, the exhaust was leaking again so had to book it in for the Friday for checking. They couldn't fit me in or sort it that day so they've now booked me to come back in for the 28th of this month to try and fix the leaking exhaust, again. 🤦‍♂️
    P.s. my first car, a Peugeot 207, had the same seat sensor issue with the rear seats and would really piss me off when the seat belt warning bong would come on.

  • @sp-tw8ij
    @sp-tw8ij Рік тому +3

    If you live in a city with smallish parking spaces and you have mobility issues or have to put up with child seats, you need a car that is similar in foot print to a regular hatchback but just a tad taller.
    Makes getting in and out a little easier.

  • @SamAustin
    @SamAustin Рік тому +27

    Loved this review Jay! Could not agree more with your points and how you presented it was fantastic! Sadly they will keep selling lots of these cross overs and Arnorld Clark will also continue to exist.......both awful but at least your review may convince someone not to buy/use either! 👍🎉

    • @pierinovatta9517
      @pierinovatta9517 Рік тому

      Always ironic how people slate Arnold Clark when the amount of lying customers do is absolutely astounding. I've supported Arnold Clark and will not go to any other company. Always bought from them and will always buy from them. One particular branch is amazing. Wakefield branch have always had my business, every second hand car I've bought from them had a niggle here and there but they have always gone above and beyond to sort out my cars.

  • @HIOP0
    @HIOP0 Рік тому +11

    These budget tyres "might" have been added by you know who, the car is nearly five years old. The MOT carried out last July shows two advisories, guess what on...?. Nearside Rear Tyre slightly damaged/cracking or perishing (5.2.3 (d) (ii))
    Offside Rear Tyre slightly damaged/cracking or perishing (5.2.3 (d) (ii)). So originals done, let's fit the cheapest (ditchfinders) we can source. Part 3 of 3

  • @AndyB365
    @AndyB365 Рік тому +10

    This gives me some sweet validation as to how I reacted when my Giulietta had the same seatbelt sensor issue. I was ready to let the thing roll into the North Sea.

    • @miskatonic6210
      @miskatonic6210 Рік тому +1

      I bet every Alfa owner goes through this and I would advise them to do as you describe to spare others from buying used Alfas.

    • @AndyB365
      @AndyB365 Рік тому

      @@miskatonic6210 Now you see, despite that thing giving me non-stop grief for two years until a heroic deer jumped out and wrote the thing off for me, I'd still buy another Alfa 😂

    • @timhancock6626
      @timhancock6626 Рік тому

      @@miskatonic6210 You lose your bet ! 😂

  • @bentullett6068
    @bentullett6068 Рік тому +1

    I agree on what you say. SUV's are marketed as being a safe vehicle in a crash because of their tough stance hence why you see many on a school run. I remember there was that one episode of Clarkson's Car Years where he was talking about family cars and there was a part when he was trying to figure out why people were buying the large SUV 4x4's and he came to the conclusion that yes ideal if you do live in the countryside where you may encounter occasional floods or bad roads, but for those living in towns and cities they are pointless. The only other use these SUV's have are for towing but you do need something mid to large size with a diesel engine really, not a 1.2 TSI petrol engine

  • @davidthegolfer
    @davidthegolfer Рік тому +2

    Hi
    My wife had the 2 litre R trim. We have just sold it after 4.5 trouble free years, just 23k miles. It was an excellent car. 4 motion good in snow as required and it only list £1800 a year in depreciation. Dropping it into sport it was very lively. In the life of the car we got 40 mpg. The 2 ltr R line (trim) comfortable, quick in its class. Sad to part with it. Just needed an estate. Golf clubs etc. Bought a 2ltr MSport 3 series touring demonstrator.

    • @miskatonic6210
      @miskatonic6210 Рік тому +1

      "Only" 1800 depreciation a year? 😂 I only lost 1000 in 3 years.

    • @davidthegolfer
      @davidthegolfer Рік тому

      @@miskatonic6210 impressive - how £ when please? Was it a new car when you bought it?

  • @VSS1
    @VSS1 Рік тому +3

    Brilliant review mate, funny, witty and informative!

  • @joro5748
    @joro5748 Рік тому +12

    What a delicious rant! Enjoyed every minute of it.

  • @CosmicTurbo949
    @CosmicTurbo949 Рік тому +11

    Regarding the higher driving position, it didn't make much sense to me until last year when I moved from my old Honda Accord to a Toyota Rav-4. I was quite surprised at how much easier it is to see nearside kerbs, drains and parked cars with the relatively small increase in height.

  • @jmal1824
    @jmal1824 Рік тому +1

    quality footage and information as ever. nicely done.

  • @stevenniels
    @stevenniels Рік тому +3

    Thanks for that review. Saved me going and looking at one! My wife likes to site high up in the command driving positon, so, it was on the list.

  • @Jamesmorley1999
    @Jamesmorley1999 Рік тому +7

    I’m amazed you managed to create this entire video without breaking into a fit of extreme profanity… I know I couldn’t have!

  • @andrewfoster1316
    @andrewfoster1316 Рік тому

    liking the video on the the troc i recently had a tcross as a courtesy car while my skoda kamiq was having update on the infortainment system yes it actually works now any way the tcross 1 litre was rubbish and only had me and my son in was the 95 ps dead in the water couldnt wait to hand it back. and the sliders for heat controls absolute pants.

  • @feldons5621
    @feldons5621 Рік тому +1

    Great review-glad you mentioned the Rover Streetwise -ahead of the curve as were many of their cars.

    • @nidungr3496
      @nidungr3496 Рік тому

      Now in the form of Dacia's Stepway models, raised 4cm with lots of plastic junk all over and they sell by the bucket. Sigh.

  • @antep6157
    @antep6157 Рік тому +4

    Jay, they already did the Golf Alltrack, it was only sold in wagon form however.

  • @michaelherrmann3423
    @michaelherrmann3423 Рік тому +5

    You are sooo right. Micha from Germany, grown up with VWs. These are just of the size they want us to get used to with their electric cars. But what about a (Hunday I 30 N performance dual clutch gearbox and its really loud exhaust)? As you know, Germans are involved there, and this has a real handbreak. Try it. For me as a man with special needs, it really is a good automatic car.

    • @user-bs1wx1tb7e
      @user-bs1wx1tb7e 3 місяці тому +1

      You nailed it, that's the real reason, they want to get the public used to that form factor for the electric transition.

    • @michaelherrmann3423
      @michaelherrmann3423 3 місяці тому +1

      @@user-bs1wx1tb7e thank you from Cologne in Germany

  • @bi5048
    @bi5048 Рік тому

    In my place - where the road is a lot less perfect - higher car usually means higher ground clearance. Not necessarily means tougher though. Only some confidence that the lower part of the hard earned thing doesn’t get hit by anything hard below

  • @TheVaultIsMine
    @TheVaultIsMine Рік тому +6

    This review is a bit more unhinged than the usual, love it!

  • @duffieldmathstutor
    @duffieldmathstutor Рік тому +7

    Great video as usual James.
    Personally I think VW has lost the plot since the Mk7 Golf. Had a T-Roc as a courtesy car when my Golf GTE was in for a service and it felt like a big step backwards. As you say these do sell well (for some unknown reason!) and VW need to make money after Dieselgate. Cost cutting is in evidence everywhere....

    • @jacobthompson8507
      @jacobthompson8507 Рік тому

      I completely agree on your comments about VW after the MK7 Golf. I think Audi is the same after around the same era. I’ve currently got a 2019 A3 and I can not bring myself to trade it in for a new A3 or Golf, I’m unsure what to buy next… because of this.

    • @Buick_GSX
      @Buick_GSX Рік тому +1

      Here in the states, the new Mk7 Jetta is worse in every regard than the old Mk6 jetta like my dad owns. And compared to my Mk6 Golf, it's like they're not even made by the same company. Everybody says the Taos is just a complete pile of shit even though it's just a mildly restyled version of the short wheelbase Tiguan. And even after ten years, somehow VW has never gotten rid of the driveline shudder with their automatic transmissions, even when they've switched from the toyota 6 speed lump to their new toyota 8 speed lump. I guess it's still better than letting everyone have the dry clutch 7 speed DSG though.

  • @Rhyd
    @Rhyd Рік тому

    I lived with a 2019 troc rline with the 2.0l awd variant for over 3 years. Every point you made was completely correct, also the one about kids throwing up in the back...yeah first hand experience.
    It's a nice car that focuses on things that don't matter. Why in even the top of the line models does it lack basics such as reversing cameras, automatic boot, electric seats and some decent surfaces to rest on!
    The boot seems less practical then my older 2008 focus, the seats are harder then a school bench and the mpg is just awful unless you're sitting pretty at 60 with the wind behind you.

  • @colmfoley5583
    @colmfoley5583 Рік тому

    An Insightful and accurate commentary on the current bizarre crossover trend and the eco friendly 2 tonne tanks of electric SUVs...Bravo and thank you James!..... take a bow

  • @JamaicanMeCrazy980
    @JamaicanMeCrazy980 Рік тому +26

    I do enjoy a cheesed off JayEmm. Destroy 90% of the crossovers. The remaining 10% have a place sure but these useless things are a tyre short of abominations.
    Also. I love the high-pitched exasperation at 15:05 Had me belly laughing!
    Great vid Jay! Need more of these ramblings. Had me laughing all the way through.

  • @joshbacon8241
    @joshbacon8241 Рік тому +3

    Before SUVs and crossovers really started becoming popular in the UK, cars like family saloons/estates (e.g. Ford Mondeo, VW Passat, Honda Accord, Mazda 6, etc.) and MPVs/people carriers (e.g. Vauxhall Zafira, Xsara Picasso, Renault Scenic, Fiat Multipla, etc.) were the main family car used for things like dropping the kids off at school, going to the shops, family trips out to places like the beach, trampoline park, zoo, water park, the grandparents, or to wherever, etc. But not anymore.
    Because everyone is now buying SUVs and crossovers, those days are long gone - now it's just Nissan Qashqai this and Vauxhall Grandland that (or replace with any other SUV or crossover), with the occasional premium luxury ones like the BMW X5, Land Rover Discovery and Mercedes GLE thrown in, and various manufacturers have dropped out of the family saloon/estate and people carrier market altogether to focus on more profitable SUVs.
    And Alfa Romeo cancelled plans for a Sportwagon estate version of the Giulia in early 2017 in favour of the Stelvio -which would go on to sell like hot-cakes, and in late 2019, they cancelled production plans for the new GTV and 8C sports cars in favour of, you guessed it, more SUVs!

  • @NES_Sim_Racing
    @NES_Sim_Racing 2 місяці тому +1

    Golf SV owner here, it's the better engineered car, longer wheelbase than golf hatchback and unlike the Troc has independent rear suspension on all but the low powered specs (1.0 petrol & 1.6 diesel) I had a mk7 gti performance and my partner needed a higher up seating position. It's not a fun car but the boot /rear legroom is much better and it doesn't have the nasty plastic of the troc inside. It's the car almost nobody buys (well you can't now it's discontinued) because it's not fashionable however it's a car that a lot of people need. I've also had a 2wd yeti and the SV is considerably better. A 4wd yeti is still a great option with it's off road ability.

  • @marvinsamuels1237
    @marvinsamuels1237 Рік тому +10

    11:13 for some time I thought “Landsail” was jargon for cheap, crappy, dangerous tyres 😅 I only found out late last year that they were an actual brand. People don’t realise what a risk they take going for the cheapest tyres available, it could mean the difference between stopping and ploughing into another vehicle, wall, or hedge.

    • @chriso8485
      @chriso8485 Рік тому

      And yet there is no evidence to say that they have caused an accident

    • @marvinsamuels1237
      @marvinsamuels1237 Рік тому

      @@chriso8485 good point.

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry Рік тому +2

      @@chriso8485 No evidence that bad tyres have caused an accident...do you mean you haven't looked for any? Because there is a LOT of evidence for that.
      For starters, check the various tests on Tyre Reviews, showing how much worse budget tyres are at literally everything, and by how much. Add 30% to your braking distance and you don't really need to find evidential data to know that will increase the number of accidents...

    • @chriso8485
      @chriso8485 Рік тому

      @@ApothecaryTerry find me the news article blaming tyres for someone's death or accident

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry Рік тому +1

      @@chriso8485 Go check the UK transport department stats, tyres caused more than 2x more crashes than any other kind of vehicle defect. Of course, we don't know what tyres those were or what the defect was...but this is obviously an impossible thing to get data for. Of course, it's so blindingly obvious that nobody should need data either. It's like removing the bars from lion cages at the zoo and saying "without stats I don't believe it's more dangerous" - the lack of stats isn't the problem there.
      Think about it - if someone crashes because tyres increased their breaking distance, how are you going to know that for sure and report on it? It doesn't take much basic common sense though to work out that massively increasing people's braking distance will cause accidents. Find any accident where someone was on budget tyres. If the collision happened when they were in the last 30% of their braking distance or turning radius then good tyres would have saved them, simple.

  • @commanchi7
    @commanchi7 Рік тому +5

    14:43 - Popularity is not indicative of a quality product, case in point TV shows; X-factor & celebrity love island are nothing short of trite reality TV tropes and yet they've been the most watched shows in the UK.

  • @BebeMischa
    @BebeMischa Рік тому +6

    Do you remember Golf Country? :-D Well, I'm so happy with my car, which is so low, that it becomes impossible to find in a parking lot. But well, it handles like a CAR. 😀

  • @cvillalobos27
    @cvillalobos27 Рік тому +1

    Spot on commentary. Thing is, VW stopped bringing the Golf to Chile, so if I want one, the only hatchback I can get from VAG in the mundane brands is a Fabia, a Scala or a Leon. The rest are all CUVs or SUV.

  • @rabbitboy008
    @rabbitboy008 Рік тому

    Brilliant vid James, as a fan of normal cars, mine is a few inches lowers than this, very old, is Italian, a saloon with folding seats, my MTB fits inside, it had ]as done 157K does an average of 50mpg has the torque of the devil and will do Scotland and back with no refill, the engine is a 1.9. Any guesses?

  • @andyhunt457
    @andyhunt457 Рік тому +4

    That interior is the same quality as my Seat from 15 yrs ago

  • @colinmitchell8696
    @colinmitchell8696 Рік тому +45

    Jay what a great review. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks crossovers are awful. The only people that like them seem to be people who hate driving. Thank you for keep producing such greats reviews.

    • @davedear929
      @davedear929 Рік тому +1

      As an owner of a Tiguan I'm very happy with it. It tows our caravan very well. V dubs are selling well but I'm sorry your innane rambling about this car isn't selling your channel to me.

    • @soundseeker63
      @soundseeker63 Рік тому

      @@davedear929 "As an owner of a Tiguan I'm very happy with it. It tows our caravan very well."
      Yeah, see thats kind of what he meant. But hey, it suits you, and thats ok. It's just not really what the car enthusiast community is all about.

    • @jamesmedina2062
      @jamesmedina2062 Рік тому

      @@davedear929 bro this video is not about a Tiguan. The first Tiguan was a fantastic vehicle. The new ones are too big and bulky for me though. Again thats a different car. Comment on one of those videos???

  • @paulhillcox3071
    @paulhillcox3071 Рік тому +1

    Great video! I just bought a golf . It’s just right. I’m 58 and I see no need for anything like a Troc. I can get my 86 year old mother in it just fine, I can fit my 6 foot tall kids in the back, I can fit shopping and luggage in the boot, it’s economical (diesel) , automatic cheap to insure, good to drive and quiet on the motorway. Why would I buy anything else?

  • @KangoV
    @KangoV Рік тому

    I'll stick with my Discovery 3. I just picked up a fridge freezer this weekend. Seats down and it slid straight in! 15 years old and still going string, and yes id does go off road on the farm :)

  • @idavidmcclune
    @idavidmcclune Рік тому +15

    Wow! A brutally honest review. What a refreshing change. Loved, loved, loved it JayEmm. Keep up the good work.
    I had an enforced period with 2 RSQ3s and it's only now, after 5 years, that I've gone back to a normal car (this time an S4) that I've realised how compromised these upright and blunt-faced machines are. Ride comfort, handling and fuel consumption are all dreadful in comparison. Whilst not the best handling thing, the S4 dispatches corners like they are mild deviations from the straights all while not endeavouring to bounce you over the hedge into the muddy fields beyond.
    I completely understand the need for something a bit taller for those that are infirm (that was me for a while). But what are the rest of you doing? Go see a doctor or a psychiatrist immediately.

    • @nissanoo0393
      @nissanoo0393 Рік тому +1

      drive a fast hatch if u want to see corner speed lol

    • @idavidmcclune
      @idavidmcclune Рік тому +2

      @@nissanoo0393 I can trace my hot hatch lineage from XR2 to Escort RS Turbo, Peugeot 106 and 309 1.9 GTIs to Focus ST170 so I know what you mean. 106 GTI was the best handling with the ST170 a close second. I love a bit of lift-off oversteer! It's a shame even hot hatches are so lardy these days.

    • @nissanoo0393
      @nissanoo0393 Рік тому +1

      @@idavidmcclune Yup with that history im surprised u have ended up with audis hehe (understeer)
      try to have a go in a twingo 133 or 182, sub £ 3k VERY FUN cars ;)

    • @idavidmcclune
      @idavidmcclune Рік тому +1

      @@nissanoo0393 families and middle age mean different priorities I'm afraid. Having said that my daughter is interested in engineering. We are investigating building an MK RX5. That'll be fun.

    • @nissanoo0393
      @nissanoo0393 Рік тому

      @@idavidmcclune Go fot it!!

  • @jphuuskon
    @jphuuskon Рік тому +4

    It's milquetoast on 4 wheels. Herz tried to "upgrade" me into one when I needed a rental car for three weeks. I fought them hard and got downgraded to a Mini Cooper JCW.

    • @graemewilson1400
      @graemewilson1400 Рік тому

      Hahahaha classic....and nice!....hahaha

    • @MrManBuzz
      @MrManBuzz Рік тому +2

      That's one hell of a "downgrade" 😂

  • @haydendmorrison
    @haydendmorrison Рік тому

    Looks like you're on the B822 Crow road? I suspect that because I used to manage a lot of the forestry round there in a previous job, where I had a T-Roc as a company car. It was fine, FWD 2l TDI but the low profile tyres let it down work-wise. The advantage of it not being mine is that I didn't have to care too much about rallying it...
    As someone who does 25k miles a year travelling round the country (mostly on road) surveying forests I find it useful to know what these cars are like off road. All I really need is slightly raised ground clearance though, I agree with most car reviewers that very few people ever do anything mildly technical in an SUV...

  • @adogmcdizzle
    @adogmcdizzle Рік тому

    After recently driving a Peugeot crossover (3008) as a hire car on holiday in Portugal, the I quickly realised that if you had the seat raised where you could actually benefit from the raised ride height then the visibility through the windscreen was horrendous. The rear view mirror obstructed a seemingly a vast amount of space.

  • @brendangarvin7787
    @brendangarvin7787 Рік тому +3

    I rent cars quite often and I usually order a basic hatchback online. When I turn up at the rental office, they always say "We've given you a free upgrade" before handing me the keys to something taller, heavier and with worse aerodynamics so it's worse to drive while coating me more in fuel and which doesn't even have much extra space to compensate for being a much worse car than the Polo or Astra or whatever I thought I would be getting.

    • @welshwizard645
      @welshwizard645 Рік тому

      Avis always think I want a crossover, I go to collect and offered a monstrosity - most recently an MG ZS, fortunately I found a fault and rejected it, they then offered me a Pug 2008 which was truly hateful and I told them to just give an effing Golf…then I leave happy….

  • @kyleholloway3470
    @kyleholloway3470 Рік тому +7

    I despite crossovers and everything they stand for and this is one of the worst offenders.

  • @althejazzman
    @althejazzman Рік тому +2

    I almost stopped talking to my Stepdad when he proudly announced last month that he was replacing his Mazda 6 Estate diesel with a petrol T-Roc. His reasoning was that he needed the extra ground clearance for living in Devon, and he liked VW because he owned a Passat 15 years ago. Should have bought a Golf then, or a Passat!

  • @janeeastmids4265
    @janeeastmids4265 11 місяців тому +1

    So glad to see this. I have spent the last 2 months looking to change my 2016 Golf 1.4tsi auto match. for a car with a bigger boot giving my 2 large labradors more space. I don't need to tow anything nor use a stepladder to get in & out of a car (& neither do my ageing labs!) I've sat in so many SUVs - they are just so ugly & most have average boot spaces anyway. So, I'd never heard of a Golf SV but managed to track down a 2020 1.5 evo dsg with 8000 miles & will be testing next week. I really hope it's ok. All I want is a Golf sized hatch with a bigger boot! Car manufacturers take note-Not everyone is in love with SUVs!

    • @kwl189
      @kwl189 6 місяців тому +1

      Whilst not given a great deal of street cred, the Skoda Octavia, is only 10 to 20 cm bigger, based on the same platform and has a much bigger boot with more leg room in the back.

    • @janeeastmids4265
      @janeeastmids4265 6 місяців тому

      ​@@kwl189I bought the Golf SV- love it! (and so do the dogs!)

  • @wallstock
    @wallstock Рік тому +11

    This is one of the finest (& funniest) videos that you’ve ever made.
    Also happened to agree with every point made. Sick of this SUV/crossover obsession era!