I disagree. It's funny how this is still a point of contention. I don't, personally, want to play a puzzle block game at 2000 miles an hour with a 4 button control scheme thank you very much. I would walk over coals to never play it again.
I guess the concept was cool at the time, but yeah, the original Sonic The Hedgehog just feels clunky to play nowadays in comparison to SMW, which probably has the tightest controls of any 2D platformer to date.
@@iwanttocomplain I dunno, the momentum feels enjoyable in a sense when running, but I feel less in control of Sonic in terms of the platforming. There is a sort-of floatiness to the way he controls in the air that makes platforming in that game seem less precise. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a really good game too nevertheless, so I'm not trying to hate on it here. I think the sequels improved on it a lot.
I am glad you made this. Having not watched it yet, Super Mario World beats Sonic the Hedgehog in more categories, and is game of the year of 1991 imo.
@@Victory-in-YAHUSHA you are glad he made a video about contemporary critic reviews of these two games. You are already decided yourself which is your personal game of the year that year. Because of "categories", of which you speak, of which you have found SMW to be superior. In your opinion. That's a review. It was nice.
I loved the Mario Movie. He's is so.. him! You know? Kind of like an potato and someone drew a face on it. He's always careful to introduce himself and I appreciate that. So I can run away.
At the time, Sonic seemed more fresh and innovative, but in hindsight, SMW is the more polished game, as evidenced by the changes in Sonic 2 and beyond to better work with Sonic’s identity and strengths.
Yeah Sonic 2 improved it alot. The spin dash removed any need to build up speed. Genius. Totally worth it for every other element being the same as the first one but dumber with slightly worse everything apart from the gameplay which is identical (apart you need to get good at stopping dead as quickly as possible). Also you will spend alot of time looking at the game as opposed to playing it. Mario World would wins this one because there is the possibility of failure. Well, if you can not die you are doing really well.
Ignore those other comments. "At the time, Sonic seemed more fresh and innovative, but in hindsight, SMW is the more polished game" does this sentence not make any sense? it should read "in hindsight, SMW is more fresh and innovative"... :/
Sonic 2 improved it alot. The spin dash removed any need to build up speed. But worth it for diluting every other element. You will get really good at coming to a stop very quickly. Lot's of time to admire the speed at which the Mega Drive can move backgrounds. For some reason. Never gets old...
QotD: I think Sonic is better than SMW. It felt more innovative whereas SMW felt like more distilled Mario 3. That said, I've played SMW much more than Sonic.
I would love to watch more comparisons like these from the Sega vs Nintendo era. 1992: Turtles in Time vs Streets of Rage 2 1993: Lunar: Silver Star vs Secret of Mana 1994: Sonic 3 vs Donkey Kong Country 1995: DKC2 vs Vectorman Not a must do, just an example.
These are both such beloved and influential games for me, it's hard for me to choose, as I love both for different reasons. If I absolutely *had* to choose, probably Mario World just for the ability to save your progress and revisit levels, which is something in which I don't think is valued enough in the way it changes the at the time typically arcade-y, "get as far as you can on these lives and continues" nature of platformers into something that feels more like a full-on adventure that was made with home gaming in mind. All that said, this is a perspective with over three decades of hindsight, I can definitely see why Sonic won out with critics in 1991. He was fresh, shiny and new, and pushed the Genesis/Mega Drive to bold new heights, played, sounded and looked like nothing else on the platform and made the NES and microcomputers of the day suddenly feel absolutely ancient. And Mario World was a more iterative evolution on the NES titles who's overhauls and innovations were much more understated. Both would make ripples that still reverberate to this day, but no one really could have seen that in 1991.
You didn't have to choose you know. Yes, saving is the key issue here. "Shiny and new". WTF does this mean? A gimmick, is what you're implying. Pathetic. "played, sounded and looked like nothing else on the platform" you mean all games ever. Apart from it being a platform game. You didn't play it because you are an acolyte. You are not interested in reason.
@@iwanttocomplain you okay there, bud? xD Then again, I just saw your user name is "I Want to Complain", and I got a pretty good laugh at your reply in that context. Hope whatever has you so complaint-focused gets better in life for ya, though. Take it easy, bud
Was that the mag that became Mean Machines Sega? A magazine it took me about 2 paragraphs to never return to? There's generous, then there's MMS. Shallow tepid, trying to please all the big money at the same time. It was easily the trashiest one.
Also, I'm going with SMW. All these schmucks haven't even made it past the first area if they think it's just like SMB3. Sonic is a pretty good game but I disagree, I think Super Mario World is the best game ever.
I enjoyed the characters and graphics of Sonic, but honestly Super Mario World was just a lot more fun and a lot more game for the dollar. LOL but, confession, I went with the SNES for Star Fox.
It's funny people calling Sonic 1 so fast then, because there's so many times in the game where you're forced to stop and wait. But I can see people then seeing it as fresher than World. As great as world is, so much of it is Mario 3 with 16 bit graphics iirc
There aren't many times where you have to wait. 20 seconds in the whole game maybe? Or do you mean waiting for moving platforms? It is a platform game. Not a racing game. I would be a bit disappointed if I bought a racing game and it was just a straight line.
Mario I believe is a series that translate better into 3D, I like the 2D games but have never been into them. I can play Sonic whether it's in 2D or 3D. The only 2D Mario games I beat were Super Mario Advanced 4, Wonder and the New Series.
I wonder if these editors look back at how stupid they were. Especially considering NOW, it's widely acknowledged that Mario World is one of the best games of all time and frequently comes up as number one. I've never seen Sonic the hedgehog not one time in even the top five.
I prefer Mario World. I think Sonic makes an overall better first impression with its first two levels. However, for me Sonic loses some gas after you start the 3rd level. So the overall experience goes from great to just being a good game. Mario World on the other hand is fairly consistent in its quality throughout. The only world I don't look forward to playing is the 5th level with the quirky mysterious woods setting. Other than that it's a great game to play that I will still go back to once a year. I usually only play the first 2 levels of Sonic and I'm good.
Sonic better music, better bosses, better graphics. SMW has possibly better level design though Id call it a wash with Sonics large multiple path levels with tons of things to uncover. Controls a wash. Exellent Mario Controls vs exellent physics based Sonic controls. Two of my favorite 16-bit games but Ive always given the edge to Sonic.
Yeah, seems like Mario pissed in Entertainment Weekly's Post Toasties for that kind of review, damn. As for the question, I haven't played the original Sonic game yet. Yeah, I had fun when I was a little girl playing Sonic 2 which I believe was the pack in game when dad bought his Sega years before, but the first one, never played, so as such, for now I'll have to go with one I did play, and certainly enjoyed more than Entertainment Weekly and that is Mario World.
I'll defend Sonic as equal to Mario, though I wouldn't say better. Both games will do things like tease players with items visible somewhere onscreen, but seemingly unreachable. In a Mario game, you'd need to search for a hidden block or wait for a certain enemy to get close to bounce off it a certain way to reach it. In a Sonic game, you have to explore the level to find a different route that leads to that unreachable ledge. Sonic levels have branching paths and most have hidden ways to connect the different routes. Most people play Sonic by racing through it and miss the exploration factor. I'd say Sonic rewards exploration while Mario rewards platforming skill. And don't discount the importance of music. Sonic's soundtracks (especially 2 and CD) are great. For this specific video, I'd say SMW is better than Sonic 1, but in my opinion Sonic 2, 3, & Knuckles, and CD are all better than either SMW 1 or 2 on SNES. But I'd say 8-bit Mario games are definitely better than 8-bit Sonic, however. I do know that most prefer Mario overall, so I'm in the minority for sure.
How I rank the classic 2D titles from both franchises. Sonic 3 & Knuckles > Super Mario World > SMB3 > Sonic 2 > Sonic CD > Sonic 1 > SMB2 > SMB1 > TLL.
These guys are drunk. Super Mario World was the much better game. Don't get me wrong, sonic 1 was great, a fantastic game, but it doesn't hold a candle to SMW. From the more varied levels, greater amount of levels, more power-ups, secret exits, additional character play (Yoshi), and 2 player support. SMW was clearly the better game. Look at the homebrew community too, SMW has far more, and arguably, far better hacks. I'm sorry, this one is no contest. SMW wipes with floor with Sonic 1. Anyone who disagrees is just delusional and/or a rabid Sega fan boi.
Mario world is way better. Sonic 1 is mediocre, short and boring in retrospect. I think graphics and style made ppl think otherwise (same with the overated DKC1)
That commercial with Peter Wingfield is pretty sweet. QOTD, I also at the time thought Sonic was better but over time It's clear Super Mario World is. More secrets to discover, more enemy variety, and deeper gameplay built on a decade or so of improvements to the series.
QOTD: I guess it probably would've been closer if it was Mario World vs. Sonic 2, but since it isn't I'd have to give the edge to Mario World! there was just so much more to do, and that's before you get to the two secret areas!
Of course. Is this a joke? I can't tell. Edit: I checked the other comments. You aren't joking. Of course. Alot of people say "of course" because they don't have any evidence other than a gang.
In this house we are Super Mario Wolrd believers. But Sonic surely was something special back in the day. Both companies hit a home run with both titles.
He's not real. I know you are in a safe space where it's fine to say anything you want like only 16bit Sonic games are any good or special. But no. The Sonic games are better than the 3D Mario games and it's not even close. Now listen to this relaxing video before your head explodes with anger you try to hide with a snide comment. ua-cam.com/video/xYjeHiTHEk0/v-deo.html woohoo!
Oh sorry, you meant just the game. Yeah Sonic is bs. It's a gimmick about going fast and there's things in the way. Garbage. I want a game from 1986 with some bells and whilstles.
I'm amused by the Nintendo commercial claiming their games are like nothing you've ever seen before... and then most of the reviews say that the game is good, but a bit too similar to the old. Honestly, I think that a lot of these scores are about the thrill of something new versus the familiar. Mario World was high quality and I liked it better than Sonic 1, but the formula was mostly familiar by then and gamers are ever a fickle lot... Well, that and comparing the commercials that guy fighting ninja and living in a sweet game-filled trailer makes SRGA look way cooler, so that too is a point in their favor :)
This was a fun one. Great job! As far as the question, I think Sonic is more replayable and was kinda ‘sexy’ looking at the time, but Mario was a much better and deeper game.
I was more excited about sonic the hedgehog then super mario world because sonic has more games Sonic 1 Sonic 2 Sonic 3 Sonic 3&knuckles Which super nintendo has super mario world only So sonic has more games then mario
This could be a good series.... personally I think it was the right winner..... even though I think Mario world is a better overall game.... sonic at least had originality and offered gamers something new
This is technically the third episode in this Magazine Match-Up series. If you haven't seen the first two, definitely check them out ... Aladdin -- Genesis vs. SNES: ua-cam.com/video/1zVQrXOxd6o/v-deo.html Taz-Mania -- Genesis vs. SNES: ua-cam.com/video/X4w2Y_Gl1jE/v-deo.html
How many games ripped off Mario before those reviews? How many ripped off Sonic after? I think that's why minds changed. Plus, Super Mario World, Yoshi's Island and Mario 64 all complement one another. Sonic CD, Sonic 2, and Sonic 3 served to replace Sonic 1.
Sonic was 100% seen as the superior game at the time. The thing is, Sonic was this edgy, new, and exciting game. If this was the very first Mario game to come out for Nintendo, I have a feeling things would have been different for reviewers as Mario World did not deviate too far from Mario3.
I think you'll find the final review to be the most well written, descriptive and clearly and writer was beside himself with admiration. Mario is what it is. It's just Mario 3 with better graphics. The reviews that praise it say things like "brilliant" "amazing" "so much fun". Don't you know that's code for "we want to keep our jobs"?
If somethings too obviously good to not give a high mark, you either don't review it or bite the bullet. Or if it has competition from a wealthier publisher, it might just lose a point here and there to get it under. Or if a game is so bad it would ruin your rep and self respect to give it a 98, you just do some panels with words and call it a day.
In a sense yeah, SMW was little more than a refinement of what had already been done. But what had been done was fantastic to start-off with, it's hard to improve on perfection. Also, the game has aged like fine wine, being just as good today as it was back then, whereas Sonic feels clunky in comparison.
That's part of what makes looking back at old reviews so interesting. Obviously, nobody knows how well something will age when it first comes out, so it's fun to see the snapshot of exactly how these critics thought at that time.
@@DefunctGames True, critics have always lauded anything that seems groundbreaking as genius at the time of release. Anyways, it would be interesting to see how critics back in 2001 justified giving Grand Theft Auto III an average score of 96% on Metacritic, because that seems completely absurd today. Just a video suggestion. lol
That's an interesting idea, I'll note that for a future video. I suppose a lot of it comes down to simply seeing something new. I know from my own experience of reviewing games, it's often easy to overlook some imperfections if a game does something that we've never seen before. That's definitely the case when it comes to Grand Theft Auto III. Sure, compared to modern GTA (or even Vice City and San Andreas), GTA3 feels like it's being held together by duct tape. But it was also something we had never seen done at that scope (and in 3D). I would argue that it created its own genre of sandbox games, something so affective that we're still feeling its impact all these decades later. It may have been buggy and occasionally even broken, but GTA3 is certainly one of the most influential games of the 21st century.
I love Sonic but like… it’s Super Mario World. The closest that classic Sonic got to Mario World was Sonic 3 & Knuckles and Sonic Mania (which arguably doesn’t count)
I will say though, I do prefer the Sonic soundtrack, if not Sonic 1 then Sonic 2 - Mania over Mario World. Even then, it’s close for me between Sonic 1 soundtrack and Mario World’s soundtrack
What you meant to say was. "My favourite is..." there is only professional reviewers and if Nintendo can't spend the competition away because of the brilliance of it's competition, you know it's at least 50 times better than SMW.
I'm surprised by this result. Considering how people feel about the two games now, I thought it would be a total sweep for Mario World. While I'm a huge Sonic fan, I personally feel Mario World is the better overall game. I really like this series, keep them coming!
This is because people are dumb. I just think it's funny. I hope these people are kicking themselves in the freaking butt for how Mentally brain dead their takes were.
Ehh this comparison is missing context and seems like a joke... The missing context is that Sega of America's 90s management staff had been establishing some type of "relationship" with Electronic Gaming Monthly Magazine and it's editors since at least late 1989 to early 1990 which is given away by the fact that EGM was first to publish a detailed tech spec comparison article that MOSTLY favored Sega around that time by comparing the Sega Genesis and the NEC Turbo GraFX 16 and then claiming that since Sega Genesis had a true 16bit CPU that it was a true 16bit videogame system which ignores that the NEC Turbo GraFX 16 had a full 16bit graphics chipset and that years later when Dreamcast and PS2 shipped, that BOTH used 32bit CPUs but had graphics chipsets with far beyond capabilities beyond 32bit. The other piece of the context is the fact that Nintendo of America's management staff was simply not really ready to launch the Super Nintendo in 1990... there were excuses made such as releasing Super Mario 3 in 1990 as opposed to 1989 like in Japan due to a chip shortage which did exist and affected Sega in Japan from delivering 8 megabit ROM Cartridges in 1988 and 1989 which might have cost serious cash if they were made anyway due to a huge size back then. Therefore the Super FamiCom and Super Mario Bros 4 Super Mario World was actually launched and released in 1990 Japan which means that EGM's editors had already imported Super FamiComs and Super Mario World copies as well as other games so by the time the official Super Nintendo launch happened in late 1991 they had already seen everything and it was Yuji Naka's Sonic the Hedgehog which was the brand new game that year. Add an additional context of Sega of America's management making some special deal with the editors at EGM so that they can publish a quarterly "Sega Force Magazine" while SoA was publishing Sega Visions magazine which was also quarterly and there is a clear conflict of interest because Nintendo of America's management staff were busy handling Nintendo Power Magazine and felt no need to bribe EGM... Therefore EGM and Sega of America's early 90s management staff means there's collusion going on... besides that it's possible that Sega of America's management staff did some behind the scenes bribes with the remaining press... but more so is the fact that EGM barely got started in 1989 with Gamepro and COMPUTER and videogames magazine wasn't all about the videogame systems so their console coverage was pretty lackluster at best. Therefore EGM is biased... they get paid by Sega of America's management in the early 90s until 1995 when Sega of America management didn't bother renewing their deals with EGM and the latter all of a sudden favored the Sony PlayStation... at no surprise to those of us who knew back then or figured it out
The British were predisposed to be Sega fans and like I said Super Mario World was being imported by those magazines so they has beaten the game but Sonic became the new toy.
And yet, SMW has aged so much better. Sonic's main gimmick is speed, but the game punishes you for indulging in it.
I disagree. It's funny how this is still a point of contention. I don't, personally, want to play a puzzle block game at 2000 miles an hour with a 4 button control scheme thank you very much. I would walk over coals to never play it again.
I guess the concept was cool at the time, but yeah, the original Sonic The Hedgehog just feels clunky to play nowadays in comparison to SMW, which probably has the tightest controls of any 2D platformer to date.
@@ranchius lol
Sonic feels "clunky"? To you? Really? It's like the most fluid and responsive precision platform engine ever created.
@@iwanttocomplain I dunno, the momentum feels enjoyable in a sense when running, but I feel less in control of Sonic in terms of the platforming. There is a sort-of floatiness to the way he controls in the air that makes platforming in that game seem less precise. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a really good game too nevertheless, so I'm not trying to hate on it here. I think the sequels improved on it a lot.
I have speedran Sonic 1 WAY more than SMW. Still a great game that I love and grew up with but Sonic was just way more fun to play for me.
I am glad you made this. Having not watched it yet, Super Mario World beats Sonic the Hedgehog in more categories, and is game of the year of 1991 imo.
I liked your reviiew it was nice. :)
@@iwanttocomplain My review?
@@Victory-in-YAHUSHA you are glad he made a video about contemporary critic reviews of these two games. You are already decided yourself which is your personal game of the year that year. Because of "categories", of which you speak, of which you have found SMW to be superior. In your opinion. That's a review. It was nice.
Defunct Games, This made me so happy! I liked and subscribed!
Mario, all the way 😛
I love them both equally tbh
I loved the Mario Movie. He's is so.. him! You know? Kind of like an potato and someone drew a face on it. He's always careful to introduce himself and I appreciate that. So I can run away.
@@cjjohnson3827 I can agree
At the time, Sonic seemed more fresh and innovative, but in hindsight, SMW is the more polished game, as evidenced by the changes in Sonic 2 and beyond to better work with Sonic’s identity and strengths.
Yeah Sonic 2 improved it alot. The spin dash removed any need to build up speed. Genius. Totally worth it for every other element being the same as the first one but dumber with slightly worse everything apart from the gameplay which is identical (apart you need to get good at stopping dead as quickly as possible). Also you will spend alot of time looking at the game as opposed to playing it.
Mario World would wins this one because there is the possibility of failure. Well, if you can not die you are doing really well.
Ignore those other comments. "At the time, Sonic seemed more fresh and innovative, but in hindsight, SMW is the more polished game" does this sentence not make any sense? it should read "in hindsight, SMW is more fresh and innovative"... :/
Sonic 2 improved it alot. The spin dash removed any need to build up speed. But worth it for diluting every other element. You will get really good at coming to a stop very quickly. Lot's of time to admire the speed at which the Mega Drive can move backgrounds. For some reason. Never gets old...
QotD: I think Sonic is better than SMW. It felt more innovative whereas SMW felt like more distilled Mario 3. That said, I've played SMW much more than Sonic.
I would love to watch more comparisons like these from the Sega vs Nintendo era.
1992: Turtles in Time vs Streets of Rage 2
1993: Lunar: Silver Star vs Secret of Mana
1994: Sonic 3 vs Donkey Kong Country
1995: DKC2 vs Vectorman
Not a must do, just an example.
Some good suggestions here. Thanks for watching and contributing, it means a lot. :)
@@DefunctGames My pleasure :)
These are both such beloved and influential games for me, it's hard for me to choose, as I love both for different reasons.
If I absolutely *had* to choose, probably Mario World just for the ability to save your progress and revisit levels, which is something in which I don't think is valued enough in the way it changes the at the time typically arcade-y, "get as far as you can on these lives and continues" nature of platformers into something that feels more like a full-on adventure that was made with home gaming in mind.
All that said, this is a perspective with over three decades of hindsight, I can definitely see why Sonic won out with critics in 1991. He was fresh, shiny and new, and pushed the Genesis/Mega Drive to bold new heights, played, sounded and looked like nothing else on the platform and made the NES and microcomputers of the day suddenly feel absolutely ancient. And Mario World was a more iterative evolution on the NES titles who's overhauls and innovations were much more understated. Both would make ripples that still reverberate to this day, but no one really could have seen that in 1991.
You didn't have to choose you know. Yes, saving is the key issue here. "Shiny and new". WTF does this mean? A gimmick, is what you're implying. Pathetic. "played, sounded and looked like nothing else on the platform" you mean all games ever. Apart from it being a platform game.
You didn't play it because you are an acolyte. You are not interested in reason.
@@iwanttocomplain you okay there, bud? xD
Then again, I just saw your user name is "I Want to Complain", and I got a pretty good laugh at your reply in that context.
Hope whatever has you so complaint-focused gets better in life for ya, though. Take it easy, bud
@@HybridAngelZero you're super rude
SMW!
Don't break the tie with Entertainment Weekly. Their video game reviews had been awful for decades until they stopping printing magazines.
Was that the mag that became Mean Machines Sega? A magazine it took me about 2 paragraphs to never return to? There's generous, then there's MMS. Shallow tepid, trying to please all the big money at the same time. It was easily the trashiest one.
I'm legit surprised the European audience went with SMW considering the MegaDrive was more popular there.
Was it the audience or the critics from magazines?
didn't you watch the video? Two people liked this comment!
Also, I'm going with SMW. All these schmucks haven't even made it past the first area if they think it's just like SMB3. Sonic is a pretty good game but I disagree, I think Super Mario World is the best game ever.
Yeah they didn't play it. Keep telling yourself that. They are idiots, butthurt, insane or showing off to their friends. I know.
I enjoyed the characters and graphics of Sonic, but honestly Super Mario World was just a lot more fun and a lot more game for the dollar. LOL but, confession, I went with the SNES for Star Fox.
It's funny people calling Sonic 1 so fast then, because there's so many times in the game where you're forced to stop and wait. But I can see people then seeing it as fresher than World. As great as world is, so much of it is Mario 3 with 16 bit graphics iirc
There aren't many times where you have to wait. 20 seconds in the whole game maybe? Or do you mean waiting for moving platforms? It is a platform game. Not a racing game. I would be a bit disappointed if I bought a racing game and it was just a straight line.
Mario I believe is a series that translate better into 3D, I like the 2D games but have never been into them. I can play Sonic whether it's in 2D or 3D. The only 2D Mario games I beat were Super Mario Advanced 4, Wonder and the New Series.
I wonder if these editors look back at how stupid they were. Especially considering NOW, it's widely acknowledged that Mario World is one of the best games of all time and frequently comes up as number one. I've never seen Sonic the hedgehog not one time in even the top five.
These magazines came to the correct conclusion, Sonic is the better game. Gotta go fast!
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I prefer Mario World. I think Sonic makes an overall better first impression with its first two levels. However, for me Sonic loses some gas after you start the 3rd level. So the overall experience goes from great to just being a good game. Mario World on the other hand is fairly consistent in its quality throughout. The only world I don't look forward to playing is the 5th level with the quirky mysterious woods setting. Other than that it's a great game to play that I will still go back to once a year. I usually only play the first 2 levels of Sonic and I'm good.
Sonic better music, better bosses, better graphics. SMW has possibly better level design though Id call it a wash with Sonics large multiple path levels with tons of things to uncover. Controls a wash. Exellent Mario Controls vs exellent physics based Sonic controls. Two of my favorite 16-bit games but Ive always given the edge to Sonic.
I find Mario very difficult to control.
Yeah, seems like Mario pissed in Entertainment Weekly's Post Toasties for that kind of review, damn. As for the question, I haven't played the original Sonic game yet. Yeah, I had fun when I was a little girl playing Sonic 2 which I believe was the pack in game when dad bought his Sega years before, but the first one, never played, so as such, for now I'll have to go with one I did play, and certainly enjoyed more than Entertainment Weekly and that is Mario World.
Sonic 1 is quite alot better than 2. Trust me it's not even close.
Sonic 2 is just like Air Zonk is the the NEC Bonk character design. So hip.
Mario 3 > Sonic 2>Mario World>Sonic 3>Mario 2>Sonic 1>Mario 1
Personally I'd say Mario 3 = World > Sonic 2 > Sonic 3 > Mario 1 > Sonic 1
Mario of course
Why are none of these reviewers talking about the sheer replay value of super mario world? There's way more to mario world than sonic.
YES!!!!!!!! Sonic for the win!!!!!!!!! SEGA!!!!!!!!!!👍👍
Sonic is and always has been overrated. He is fully a product of his time. Whereas Mario’s games are more often than not, timeless.
I'll defend Sonic as equal to Mario, though I wouldn't say better. Both games will do things like tease players with items visible somewhere onscreen, but seemingly unreachable. In a Mario game, you'd need to search for a hidden block or wait for a certain enemy to get close to bounce off it a certain way to reach it. In a Sonic game, you have to explore the level to find a different route that leads to that unreachable ledge. Sonic levels have branching paths and most have hidden ways to connect the different routes. Most people play Sonic by racing through it and miss the exploration factor. I'd say Sonic rewards exploration while Mario rewards platforming skill. And don't discount the importance of music. Sonic's soundtracks (especially 2 and CD) are great. For this specific video, I'd say SMW is better than Sonic 1, but in my opinion Sonic 2, 3, & Knuckles, and CD are all better than either SMW 1 or 2 on SNES. But I'd say 8-bit Mario games are definitely better than 8-bit Sonic, however. I do know that most prefer Mario overall, so I'm in the minority for sure.
How I rank the classic 2D titles from both franchises.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles > Super Mario World > SMB3 > Sonic 2 > Sonic CD > Sonic 1 > SMB2 > SMB1 > TLL.
Sonic, everyday of the week!
These guys are drunk. Super Mario World was the much better game. Don't get me wrong, sonic 1 was great, a fantastic game, but it doesn't hold a candle to SMW. From the more varied levels, greater amount of levels, more power-ups, secret exits, additional character play (Yoshi), and 2 player support. SMW was clearly the better game. Look at the homebrew community too, SMW has far more, and arguably, far better hacks. I'm sorry, this one is no contest. SMW wipes with floor with Sonic 1. Anyone who disagrees is just delusional and/or a rabid Sega fan boi.
Sonic 1 is a good game, but Sonic 2 and 3NK are clearly the better products to play.
Mario world is way better. Sonic 1 is mediocre, short and boring in retrospect. I think graphics and style made ppl think otherwise (same with the overated DKC1)
I always thought the Sonic games were overrated. Even back then I KNEW SMW was leagues better.
That commercial with Peter Wingfield is pretty sweet.
QOTD, I also at the time thought Sonic was better but over time It's clear Super Mario World is. More secrets to discover, more enemy variety, and deeper gameplay built on a decade or so of improvements to the series.
QOTD: I guess it probably would've been closer if it was Mario World vs. Sonic 2, but since it isn't I'd have to give the edge to Mario World! there was just so much more to do, and that's before you get to the two secret areas!
It's very important to have alot of content in a game with little to no variety.
Of course nowadays, most gamers would choose SMW over Sonic any day.
Of course. Is this a joke? I can't tell. Edit: I checked the other comments. You aren't joking. Of course. Alot of people say "of course" because they don't have any evidence other than a gang.
Very well put together vid I'll say!
In this house we are Super Mario Wolrd believers. But Sonic surely was something special back in the day. Both companies hit a home run with both titles.
He's not real.
I know you are in a safe space where it's fine to say anything you want like only 16bit Sonic games are any good or special. But no. The Sonic games are better than the 3D Mario games and it's not even close.
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Oh sorry, you meant just the game. Yeah Sonic is bs. It's a gimmick about going fast and there's things in the way. Garbage. I want a game from 1986 with some bells and whilstles.
I'm amused by the Nintendo commercial claiming their games are like nothing you've ever seen before... and then most of the reviews say that the game is good, but a bit too similar to the old.
Honestly, I think that a lot of these scores are about the thrill of something new versus the familiar. Mario World was high quality and I liked it better than Sonic 1, but the formula was mostly familiar by then and gamers are ever a fickle lot...
Well, that and comparing the commercials that guy fighting ninja and living in a sweet game-filled trailer makes SRGA look way cooler, so that too is a point in their favor :)
The Nintendo advert had people being cruelly tested in cubicles by Rik Mayall for some reason.
This was a fun one. Great job! As far as the question, I think Sonic is more replayable and was kinda ‘sexy’ looking at the time, but Mario was a much better and deeper game.
Can you describe "better" and "deeper"?
I was more excited about sonic the hedgehog then super mario world because sonic has more games
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic 3
Sonic 3&knuckles
Which super nintendo has super mario world only
So sonic has more games then mario
This could be a good series.... personally I think it was the right winner..... even though I think Mario world is a better overall game.... sonic at least had originality and offered gamers something new
This is technically the third episode in this Magazine Match-Up series. If you haven't seen the first two, definitely check them out ...
Aladdin -- Genesis vs. SNES: ua-cam.com/video/1zVQrXOxd6o/v-deo.html
Taz-Mania -- Genesis vs. SNES: ua-cam.com/video/X4w2Y_Gl1jE/v-deo.html
I’m a more casual fan of Sonic.. Overall I prefer Mario tho.. I always drown with Sonic.. This just doesn’t happen with a water experienced plumber
The only people who think the first Sonic game is bad are those who think every platform game has to be like Mario.
This was a really awesome video keep it up
Mario. He just has better games. Although that may not have been true in the 16-bit era…but post N64, it’s unarguable.
Can't argue with that.
How many games ripped off Mario before those reviews? How many ripped off Sonic after?
I think that's why minds changed.
Plus, Super Mario World, Yoshi's Island and Mario 64 all complement one another. Sonic CD, Sonic 2, and Sonic 3 served to replace Sonic 1.
Yes. The sequels to Sonic 1 discarded alot of the core design points.
Sonic was 100% seen as the superior game at the time. The thing is, Sonic was this edgy, new, and exciting game. If this was the very first Mario game to come out for Nintendo, I have a feeling things would have been different for reviewers as Mario World did not deviate too far from Mario3.
I think you'll find the final review to be the most well written, descriptive and clearly and writer was beside himself with admiration. Mario is what it is. It's just Mario 3 with better graphics. The reviews that praise it say things like "brilliant" "amazing" "so much fun". Don't you know that's code for "we want to keep our jobs"?
Clearly, any uk youtuber who says he thought Mario was the shiz is about 1 in 100 of teenagers in the market for a console in 91-95..
If somethings too obviously good to not give a high mark, you either don't review it or bite the bullet. Or if it has competition from a wealthier publisher, it might just lose a point here and there to get it under. Or if a game is so bad it would ruin your rep and self respect to give it a 98, you just do some panels with words and call it a day.
In a sense yeah, SMW was little more than a refinement of what had already been done. But what had been done was fantastic to start-off with, it's hard to improve on perfection. Also, the game has aged like fine wine, being just as good today as it was back then, whereas Sonic feels clunky in comparison.
That's part of what makes looking back at old reviews so interesting. Obviously, nobody knows how well something will age when it first comes out, so it's fun to see the snapshot of exactly how these critics thought at that time.
@@DefunctGames True, critics have always lauded anything that seems groundbreaking as genius at the time of release. Anyways, it would be interesting to see how critics back in 2001 justified giving Grand Theft Auto III an average score of 96% on Metacritic, because that seems completely absurd today. Just a video suggestion. lol
That's an interesting idea, I'll note that for a future video. I suppose a lot of it comes down to simply seeing something new. I know from my own experience of reviewing games, it's often easy to overlook some imperfections if a game does something that we've never seen before. That's definitely the case when it comes to Grand Theft Auto III. Sure, compared to modern GTA (or even Vice City and San Andreas), GTA3 feels like it's being held together by duct tape. But it was also something we had never seen done at that scope (and in 3D). I would argue that it created its own genre of sandbox games, something so affective that we're still feeling its impact all these decades later. It may have been buggy and occasionally even broken, but GTA3 is certainly one of the most influential games of the 21st century.
I love Sonic but like… it’s Super Mario World. The closest that classic Sonic got to Mario World was Sonic 3 & Knuckles and Sonic Mania (which arguably doesn’t count)
I will say though, I do prefer the Sonic soundtrack, if not Sonic 1 then Sonic 2 - Mania over Mario World. Even then, it’s close for me between Sonic 1 soundtrack and Mario World’s soundtrack
@@sopebarrofficial3557 You would enjoy T-Square's music.
What you meant to say was. "My favourite is..." there is only professional reviewers and if Nintendo can't spend the competition away because of the brilliance of it's competition, you know it's at least 50 times better than SMW.
I'm surprised by this result. Considering how people feel about the two games now, I thought it would be a total sweep for Mario World. While I'm a huge Sonic fan, I personally feel Mario World is the better overall game. I really like this series, keep them coming!
Well the two positive reviews didn't make any sense to me so I guess you understood it.
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This is because people are dumb. I just think it's funny. I hope these people are kicking themselves in the freaking butt for how Mentally brain dead their takes were.
Ehh this comparison is missing context and seems like a joke...
The missing context is that Sega of America's 90s management staff had been establishing some type of "relationship" with Electronic Gaming Monthly Magazine and it's editors since at least late 1989 to early 1990 which is given away by the fact that EGM was first to publish a detailed tech spec comparison article that MOSTLY favored Sega around that time by comparing the Sega Genesis and the NEC Turbo GraFX 16 and then claiming that since Sega Genesis had a true 16bit CPU that it was a true 16bit videogame system which ignores that the NEC Turbo GraFX 16 had a full 16bit graphics chipset and that years later when Dreamcast and PS2 shipped, that BOTH used 32bit CPUs but had graphics chipsets with far beyond capabilities beyond 32bit.
The other piece of the context is the fact that Nintendo of America's management staff was simply not really ready to launch the Super Nintendo in 1990... there were excuses made such as releasing Super Mario 3 in 1990 as opposed to 1989 like in Japan due to a chip shortage which did exist and affected Sega in Japan from delivering 8 megabit ROM Cartridges in 1988 and 1989 which might have cost serious cash if they were made anyway due to a huge size back then.
Therefore the Super FamiCom and Super Mario Bros 4 Super Mario World was actually launched and released in 1990 Japan which means that EGM's editors had already imported Super FamiComs and Super Mario World copies as well as other games so by the time the official Super Nintendo launch happened in late 1991 they had already seen everything and it was Yuji Naka's Sonic the Hedgehog which was the brand new game that year.
Add an additional context of Sega of America's management making some special deal with the editors at EGM so that they can publish a quarterly "Sega Force Magazine" while SoA was publishing Sega Visions magazine which was also quarterly and there is a clear conflict of interest because Nintendo of America's management staff were busy handling Nintendo Power Magazine and felt no need to bribe EGM...
Therefore EGM and Sega of America's early 90s management staff means there's collusion going on... besides that it's possible that Sega of America's management staff did some behind the scenes bribes with the remaining press... but more so is the fact that EGM barely got started in 1989 with Gamepro and COMPUTER and videogames magazine wasn't all about the videogame systems so their console coverage was pretty lackluster at best.
Therefore EGM is biased... they get paid by Sega of America's management in the early 90s until 1995 when Sega of America management didn't bother renewing their deals with EGM and the latter all of a sudden favored the Sony PlayStation... at no surprise to those of us who knew back then or figured it out
EGM was just one of the match-ups. That's an interesting theory you have.
The British were predisposed to be Sega fans and like I said Super Mario World was being imported by those magazines so they has beaten the game but Sonic became the new toy.