Where Did Halo Infinite Go Wrong?

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

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  • @Mawa991
    @Mawa991 Місяць тому +33

    A main villain saying "I am villain X“ for no reason is a direct breach of the 3 wall. In Infinite this takes you out of the story immediately. Its like the developers want you to think: ok its just a cutscene. They do it again later with the other brute and the endless. This should have told them: our story isn’t set up properly, our characters say things they have no reason to say. 343 does this again and again. The didact. The warden eternal. 343 cannot tell stories in games. Halo infinite is no exception.

    • @YnossZaperator
      @YnossZaperator Місяць тому

      Halo Infinite was even more poorly done when you compare the other stories before it, to the point it doesn't feel a story or that it looks confusing with too much plots happening.

  • @makito106
    @makito106 Місяць тому +4

    1:30 You describe it perfectly Infinite isn't Halo 6 it's Halo 7. All of the big stuff happen off screen

  • @satlypepsi
    @satlypepsi Місяць тому +9

    The quality this video has I assumed you'd be a massive channel. I'm excited to see more!

  • @xdom3641
    @xdom3641 2 місяці тому +10

    I thought I was watching a much bigger channel all the way up until the video was over, nice work man.

  • @Red_2ds
    @Red_2ds Місяць тому +4

    Awesome video. A lot of quality and will be looking forward to the next one.

  • @Nighterac
    @Nighterac Місяць тому +2

    Escharum should have just been Atriox and you're 100% correct that the story suffers from this. I chalk it up to fans liking the Banished/Atriox (but we all know the reason why, because the alternatives were godawful) but Regret, Tartarus and Mercy were all introduced and killed off in H2, and they're still iconic villains. Even the Arbiter from HW1 got the same treatment. Fans treat him like he's Thanos for some reason and it's rubbed off on 343. Now they're afraid to kill off Atriox like they are with the Didact. Villains just can't stay dead, they need to be milked and dragged out. They literally pull a "somehow Palpatine returned" several times!
    343 is afraid of their own fans, so they keep Atriox alive in the legendary ending (despite everything in the game telling you he's dead) when he really should have been the main villain of this game you'd fight and kill. HW2 introduced him, now you kill him in this game. Instead he's killed off-screen.. but oh wait, not really! It's terrible writing.
    It would have changed literally nothing in the story. He's already "killed" you once, and you're looking for payback. Like Benny in New Vegas. Escharum is a completely redundant character.

  • @garretthigginbotham6122
    @garretthigginbotham6122 2 місяці тому +21

    Infinite's lack of characters and character building...

  • @madness0169
    @madness0169 Місяць тому +3

    In my opinion, I loved everything about the campaign of *Halo: Infinite.* ❤👍🏻
    Fighting the side mission bosses and the main mission bosses like Jega 'Rdomnai, Escharum and even The Harbinger were very interesting and fun. Escharum himself shares a lot of similarities with the Master Chief. They both have lost a lot within the war and are soldiers, hoping they've done the right things and questioned their choices throughout their lives.
    The only thing I would love to see for the campaign of *Halo: Infinite* is a 2-part campaign DLC. Similar to what DOOM Eternal did. That way, we can expand on the story of The Endless and Atriox since he is still alive after all, just badly injured from Cortana firing Installation-07.

    • @whatsthepoint.
      @whatsthepoint.  Місяць тому +3

      Don’t get me wrong there’s certainly lots to enjoy, but it’s that missed potential that frustrates me most! I’ll discuss more in the full video :)

  • @BlueCadet3_
    @BlueCadet3_ Місяць тому +1

    i love how when chief is floating towards the ship it goes from a blue to a yellow and then a red hue

  • @jackmcmorrow9397
    @jackmcmorrow9397 Місяць тому +1

    Why does Atriox even show up in the opening if hes just gonna die offscreen? Have a tutorial boss against Escharum, then have Jega stab you in the back after you manage to critically wound Escharum.
    Then not only do you have more motivation to defeat both these characters, but you also have a proper motivation for Escharum to so desperately want to fight chief; his wound you dealt him is slowly killing him, so he has to defeat you to redeem himself before he dies.

  • @YnossZaperator
    @YnossZaperator Місяць тому +3

    "4 Grunts in a Brute suit" 6:47
    The Propaganda Grunt (Glibnub) was correct xD

  • @PIatinumsouI
    @PIatinumsouI Місяць тому

    I fell in love with your style, keep posting, man!

  • @NO-FILTER-EXPERT
    @NO-FILTER-EXPERT 2 місяці тому +19

    halo infinite is halo 4 at its foundation.
    - Halo inifinite is a reskinned halo 5
    - Halo 5 is a enchanced uglier version of halo 4 with the h4 cod mechanics plus super powers from destiny
    all 343 games are doom to fail since their foundation is halo 4. Simple as that

    • @davemac9563
      @davemac9563 Місяць тому +1

      No, each game plays radically different.

    • @NO-FILTER-EXPERT
      @NO-FILTER-EXPERT Місяць тому +2

      @@davemac9563 yeah radically garbage

  • @maritimesteak8540
    @maritimesteak8540 Місяць тому

    Keep up the great content bro

  • @darkspark5854
    @darkspark5854 Місяць тому +16

    Infinite was the worst campaign in the series. Its story is just an absolute cop out. The decision to move past halo 5’a conclusion was a terrible move. I get why they did it, but from a narrative perspective, it’s both lazy and irresponsible. A story just doesn’t get told like this. It doesn’t make sense. You can’t just set up a huge climax and then just move on to something completely different, no matter how poor the reception was. The story needs to feel connected, and infinite doesn’t feel connected to anything. They had a responsibility to do better. This should not be considered Acceptable.
    Everything about this story is the bare minimum. They cut out as many characters as possible, the open world is empty, and the banished just feels like if the covenant were more like humans with their use of human weapons, and if boring cubed buildings.
    The offscreen death of Cortana was the worst part of the story. You’re telling me that after they killed her in halo 4, and then brought her back as a villain in halo 5, they just threw her away again? What was the point? What did we get out of this? Nothing. All that came out of Cortana’s resurrection in h5 was a character assassination that halo infinite put zero effort into reversing. They gave her a shallow and contrived “redemption” that Chief wasn’t even present for. How could they think that was okay? And enter the weapon. The weapon was the writer’s way of cheating their way out of the Cortana problem. But it’s all shallow. The weapon has potential as a character but they just want her to be Cortana 2.O. The thing is this character had no reason to exist until after Cortana’s death. And they were so invested in shoving the weapon down our throats that they rushed Cortana’s death.
    Atriox should have been the main villain. Eshurum is like the weapon. He serves no purpose other than an unnecessary replacement to a character that already had development.
    The created needed some level of presence. Them just being gone makes no sense and once again makes the story feel extremely inconsistent. They were necessary for Cortana’s character development for if she was going to get a proper redemption arc. The flood was also important as the gravemind is what made Cortana turn evil to begin with. The endless are useless and uninteresting.
    Characters like Spartan Locke, Osiris, Lasky, blue team, Arbiter, and Rolland were an interesting cast of characters that shouldn’t have been cut out of the story. Infinite writes the characters that it does have much better than 5 did, but that isn’t saying much. Infinite’s characters are still inconsistent and their development while present is bare minimum.
    This whole story is unsalvageable. At least halo 5 was going somewhere and didn’t completely derail everything. Halo infinite is a reaction to halo 5’s reception and it’s painfully obvious. It feels like they’re keeping the series on life support with cheesy fake optimism and a direction to nowhere.

    • @ishguy524
      @ishguy524 Місяць тому +1

      a little strange, considering the development for infinite

    • @YnossZaperator
      @YnossZaperator Місяць тому +2

      @@ishguy524 Right this comment look, it looks like 6 years to make this sloppy story that goes nowhere. Even Bungie and 343 during Halo 4 development took less longer to write a story yet far better and understandable enough to follow. Quite unacceptable.
      (by the words of 343 Guilty Spark)

    • @YnossZaperator
      @YnossZaperator Місяць тому +2

      It looks overall just hilariousy messy, and is basically the Rise of Skywalker of the Halo stories, also because it relies too much on nostalgia baiting.

    • @orange_turtle3412
      @orange_turtle3412 7 днів тому

      It is NOT as bad as halo 5 my guy. It just skipped over an entire game’s worth of content. If there was another game between 5 and infinite, it would have made a lot more sense

  • @Jedd98Arthur
    @Jedd98Arthur Місяць тому

    Well said man it breaks my heart

  • @ReachTea
    @ReachTea Місяць тому +8

    Cortana has an "outfit" on now
    0/10 uninstalled

  • @Mostima115
    @Mostima115 Місяць тому

    The whole campaign feels like it was set up for multiple DLC's, making it at least 3 times longer than it is, the empty part in the north-east of the map spoke for itself. As is it now, it's as if they cut off CE's campaign at the silent cartographer without any epic moments like the beach landing or the big vehicle convoy in the Ark mission of Halo 3. (sad that the bigger fights in of all Halo's shooter campaigns are still in Halo 3, unless we count CE mods or Infinite custom games made in forge)

  • @novustalks7525
    @novustalks7525 Місяць тому

    Not having a sprint button made the gameplay inferior to before. the grapple also felt really clunky

  • @darkmaster8050
    @darkmaster8050 Місяць тому

    Cool vid

  • @latenightwizard6892
    @latenightwizard6892 Місяць тому

    The new halo game looks great. I'm hyped

    • @YnossZaperator
      @YnossZaperator Місяць тому +1

      If you are talking about the the one under Halo Studios, I wouldn't be that hyped if I was you.

    • @latenightwizard6892
      @latenightwizard6892 Місяць тому

      @@YnossZaperator why. What's up?

  • @deuchebaggins8660
    @deuchebaggins8660 Місяць тому +6

    I won't buy anything from 343 again, they made me hate Halo. They had the nerve to make multiplayer free and charge for the campaign, then screwed everyone that bought it by canceling campaign dlc and leaving an unfinished game. Everywhere you look in the campaign are things that are missing from previous Halos, and the most un fun damage sponge bosses of any entry. I would rather replay 5 than ever have Infinite in my Xbox again.

    • @falloutgamer347
      @falloutgamer347 Місяць тому

      For better or worse you wont have to buy from 343 ever again

    • @deuchebaggins8660
      @deuchebaggins8660 Місяць тому

      @@falloutgamer347 I know 343 is no more, now Gaylo Studios is going to “save the series”. Just because they had a name change doesn’t mean it won’t be the same type of ass clowns going about ruining things as usual. The funny thing about this whole ordeal is Halo used to be my favorite series, I bought and backed Xbox because of Halo. All of that is over with, they had their chances to make Halo stay a system selling franchise and they squandered it on the alter of DEI

    • @falloutgamer347
      @falloutgamer347 Місяць тому +1

      @@deuchebaggins8660 I know that but really? "Gaylo studios"?

  • @GhostPlanetFilms
    @GhostPlanetFilms Місяць тому

    -SPOILER ALERT-
    Atriox isn't dead.
    He's presumed dead because while he was with Cortana to get her to surrender, Cortana blew up a portion of Zeta Halo, and the explosion was thought to have killed him, which is why Escharum antagonizes Chief (and, by extension, us), because he assumed command.
    But Atriox pops back up later and accomplishes what Cortana tried to prevent: he discovers the Xalanyn (Endless) cylixes.

  • @badmingos
    @badmingos Місяць тому

    My only problem with infinite is that they skipped the good parts, I was expecting an fps version of halo wars 2. Other than that, infinite has the best gameplay out of any halo imo

  • @Confederate115
    @Confederate115 Місяць тому

    Halo 5 left off with the UNSC on the run from Cortana and the Guardians. My biggest problem with Infinite is ALL of that was resolved off screen and suddenly the Banished are just... there. Cortana just gives up (?). The Endless lol. One bland, boring, copy-paste biome. Infinite is offensively bad in just about every way possible.

  • @novustalks7525
    @novustalks7525 Місяць тому +1

    it made no sense why atriox was absent from the entire game. why not have escherum in the intro instead of atriox? so dumb

  • @TheBros2theend
    @TheBros2theend Місяць тому

    God bless and forgive you

  • @juliand.breakdown463
    @juliand.breakdown463 Місяць тому

    343/halo Studio is whats wrong with halo.

  • @scouttrooper2871
    @scouttrooper2871 2 місяці тому +3

    6:47 lolllll

  • @s6za755
    @s6za755 Місяць тому

    Couldn’t say best

  • @savagetr1539
    @savagetr1539 Місяць тому +3

    5 was better honestly

    • @Contrabann_
      @Contrabann_ Місяць тому

      I still think 5 is better than 4 tbh

    • @christopherpeelerii9700
      @christopherpeelerii9700 Місяць тому +1

      @@Contrabann_ 4 was better than 5

    • @Contrabann_
      @Contrabann_ Місяць тому +1

      @christopherpeelerii9700 i prefer 5 just cause the gameplay feels better both stories aren't great soi just pull towards 5 more just my opinion tho

  • @dirtylizard1212
    @dirtylizard1212 Місяць тому

    Sometimes you just have to say,” No Diddy, I don’t want to party, No Diddy, I don’t want a back massage, No Diddy, I don’t want to browse your Baby Oil Reservoir I’m not impressed by it and honestly I’m uncomfortable with 1000 bottles. No Diddy.